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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Healthy Eating | Allen Jackson Now | May 23, 2025
- Well.
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- Good evening.
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- I'm alan jackson, and welcome back to our show.
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- We're going to talk about something tonight.
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- That's fun, and it's tempting.
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- Sometimes it's good for you, and sometimes it's not.
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- Do you have any guesses?
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- Well, in this case,
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- I'm talking about the food we eat and our health.
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- Given how important every meal is.
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- I'm surprised how little we know about what we eat.
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- What's good for you and what's not, me included.
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- Well, there's a new diet craze every month
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- On top of all the tv commercials that make our mouths water.
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- The food pyramid that some of us grew up with.
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- It's long since been turned upside down,
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- And so many unknowns, such as out of food additives
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- And preservatives, affect the safety of the food we eat.
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- Why do we dive into certain foods when we're stressed?
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- How much of what we eat has been genetically modified?
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- How does the way we cook our food affect its nutritional
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- Value?
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- Should i boil it, bake it, roast it, or grill it and do
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- Any of those choices help preserve the nutritional value?
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- Well, there's no focus on our health.
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- I'm beginning to think that my wife
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- And i should have a nutritionist on call.
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- Well, fortunately, we have one with us today.
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- Though he's much more than that.
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- He's a bestselling author, and he's best known as america's
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- Biblical health coach, jordan reuben.
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- Welcome to nashville. it is great to be here.
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- Well, it is always good to talk to you.
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- I feel like i learned so much and i get healthier every time.
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- I appreciate that. so here we go.
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- You're a big believer in what you call health freedom.
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- Can you explain to us what that means?
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- Well, i'm a big believer
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- In health freedom and health education.
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- I think it's a misnomer
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- That some of us, quote unquote, health
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- Experts are telling people what to do and what not to do.
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- I think we really stand back
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- And want to see people educated and make choices.
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- I don't know much about cars, so when i have a breakdown,
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- I bring it to the mechanic and whatever he says, i do.
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- That should not be the case with our health.
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- We need to take more control and understand.
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- Not only is physical health important to how we look
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- And how we feel, but the bible says it's
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- Our spiritual act of worship that's important.
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- The appointment of bobby kennedy to the head of hhs seems to
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- Already be making some changes for the better.
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- The washington times reports that a major fast food
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- Chains already switched its cooking oil
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- In some states, or apparently cracking down
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- On processed foods and school lunches.
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- There's a lot to talk about, but tell us how big a problem is
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- Cooking oil and the dyes that are used,
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- And the preservatives in our food.
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- I believe what
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- Secretary kennedy is pushing as an agenda is long overdue,
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- And some of us have been
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- Fighting an uphill battle for a quarter of a century or more.
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- And really, people would look at us sideways,
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- Especially in the church, which is very unfortunate.
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- But today, everything we eat matters,
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- And there are over a thousand chemicals
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- That are approved by the fda here in the united states
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- That are banned in other countries.
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- So that's one way to look at how dangerous
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- These chemicals are that lurk in our food supply.
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- And i subscribe
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- To a pretty simple philosophy, if you will read a label.
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- And if there's long, unpronounceable words or words
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- That contain numbers along with the letters,
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- That probably means you're eating
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- Something made in a laboratory, not on god's green earth.
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- And so for me, i want people to eat what god created as food
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- And then understand how to properly prepare that food.
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- And really, number three, you mentioned this in the opening.
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- We can't make foods and beverages our idols.
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- And i know
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- People would shake their head, well, i'm not addicted to food.
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- I'm not a glutton. but if you think about it,
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- The church
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- Has been against so many things, and rightfully so.
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- When people get saved,
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- They feel like
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- They have to cast aside a lot of their worldly pleasures.
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- But food and eating has been one of the last
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- That we've held on to.
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- And growing up in church over the years,
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- You see the wednesday night youth troupe with the big banana
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- Split and pizza, and then you see
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- Come to the early service to make seats for the later
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- Service will give you bacon
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- And something that resembles eggs and donuts, etc.
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- So i really feel called to help the church understand
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- That we need to be a shining example of physical health.
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- And i believe, alan, and i know you know this as a pastor.
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- Ancient israel was known
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- For much more than being a peculiar people.
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- There's evidence in scripture that what god told them
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- To do relative to health, hygiene,
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- And other important physical
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- Conditions made all the difference in the world.
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- They lived longer, they lived better, and even as
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- David or the psalmist talks about their exodus out of egypt,
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- The bible says, there was not one feeble
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- Among all their tribes.
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- And we're talking about 2 million plus people.
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- Whereas the bible also says that if you follow my commandments,
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- Heed my decrees, i will put
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- None of the diseases on you as i have put upon the egyptians.
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- For i am the lord that heals you.
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- And you know what, pastor?
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- Ancient egypt did one thing great preserved their remains,
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- And we see belly fat.
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- We see
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- Incidences of heart disease and brain issues
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- Very similar to what's going on today.
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- The people of ancient egypt suffered,
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- Whereas the people from ancient israel thrived.
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- Why is that?
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- And it's part of my passion to unveil the revelation
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- That is in our bible,
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- Proven through history, and confirmed my science.
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- It helps heal me,
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- And it's my duty to share that with others.
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- Well,
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- One of the things
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- I appreciate about jews,
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- You're not just an expert on nutrition and health.
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- You've got such a strong biblical background.
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- The bible says more about gluttony
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- Than it does drunkenness.
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- Why do you think the church
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- Has been so silent on our health and what we eat?
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- I don't know, i remember years ago
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- Wondering when the church was going
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- To talk about marriage, and now it is ubiquitous.
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- Churches have marriage conferences.
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- People are preaching it
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- From the pulpit.
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- Then i was thinking, when are they going to
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- Talk about money?
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- And we've seen a revolution with starting with larry burkett
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- And ending with dave ramsey.
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- How to manage your finances
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- I think health is kind of the last bastion
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- That we're ready to tackle.
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- And as much as
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- I appreciate secretary kennedy
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- And those that are surrounding him, i want the church.
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- I want god to get credit for what was always his idea.
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- And i can't answer why.
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- We don't want to mess with people's diets.
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- But i remember years ago i was blessed to be mentored
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- By doctor charles stanley, and i helped take his staff
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- Through my early book, the maker's diet program,
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- And we were able to lower health insurance costs by 20%.
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- This was a
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- Self-insured organization with just a six week program
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- And making some minor tweaks to their food service.
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- And i remember, him
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- Telling me how important it was for him personally to live
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- And preach into his older age, which he clearly did.
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- And not many people know this, but he made health
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- A real priority.
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- And it's a sacrifice because it is easier.
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- And it, frankly, is more addicting and tastes better
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- To consume fast food and go the way of the world.
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- But, i will say this, and i hope you agree at this point,
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- Eating god's food is not only delicious,
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- But the health benefits are even more so.
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- Absolutely.
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- And for full disclosure, i've been trying to follow
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- Some of your protocols for a few months.
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- Trying is an understatement.
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- You've been excelling at it.
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- Well, i hope you stay with us for another segment.
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- I want to hear more about your multi collagen protein
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- And some other wisdom about living to 100.
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- You can write me an email
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- If you want to jump in on this discussion.
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- Just don't ask me about the health
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- Benefits of oreos and cheez doodles.
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- I'll be right back.
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- I'll be right back.
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- We're back with jordan rubin.
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- We're trying to get
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- Ahead of the white house effort to make america healthy again.
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- I know you've been saying for years recommending
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- You're multi-column and protein.
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- Tell us who that is for and what it does.
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- Well, i always like to say a supplement is in addition
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- To your healthy diet or your hopefully healthy diet,
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- Because let's face it, we eat multiple times a day,
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- And whatever we take in a powder or a pill is going to
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- Fit in the palm of our hand.
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- But we've tried to identify areas where people are missing
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- Key nutrients and beneficial compounds
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- And our ancestors, and maybe having a jewish background.
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- I don't have to look very far
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- To find the fact that they consumed broths.
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- Or we could call it chicken soup.
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- But every nation in the world, when they ate animals,
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- They would eat the meat
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- And they would
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- Make some type of an extract or broth from the bones.
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- And i estimate about 30% of the protein
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- Of our ancestors came from broth.
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- And when you study what broth is made
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- Of, it's made of collagen.
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- And not coincidentally, our bones, joints, ligaments,
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- Tendons, skin, hair and nails are also comprised of collagen.
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- But if you look at today's diet with chicken nuggets and ground
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- Beef burgers, fish, that is really just a filet.
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- We have eliminated that from our diet
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- And our joints are suffering our ligaments, our tendons.
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- If you're a sports fan, you're seeing these quote
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- Unquote non-contact injuries of the elbow of the achilles
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- Shoulder knee far more than ever.
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- So we developed something years ago,
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- I want to say, 8 or 9 years ago
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- Now called multi collagen protein
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- To supply these missing proteins from our diet.
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- I've often said when asked, is this a miracle?
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- Someone will say, is vitamin d a miracle?
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- It seems like it.
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- If you're in
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- Washington state in february when you don't get any sunlight.
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- But if you're in south florida in july, vitamin d doesn't
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- Do much for you.
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- Point being, what you're missing may be your miracle.
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- And so i think with multi collagen protein what we love is
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- We're seeing grandparents be able to walk up steps
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- Without pain.
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- Or we're seeing athletes being able to recover faster.
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- We're seeing people
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- Say their skin looks better their their hair etc..
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- So it really is an interesting missing link.
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- I would prefer people make bone broth and stocks and soups,
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- But if they're not going to do that,
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- You can add multi collagen protein to smoothies. i do it
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- To my athletic and non-athletic children's smoothies.
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- My wife gets a coffee every day that i make for her two scoops.
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- And she is, in her 50s and looks like she's in her 20s.
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- But this is just something that she's used to.
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- And she even says to me, if she's on the road or
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- If somehow she doesn't have collagen or coffee,
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- She doesn't like the taste anymore.
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- She's not used to it. so tasteless.
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- Virtually odorless mixes. easy.
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- You can sneak it in pancakes, spaghetti sauce,
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- Smoothies and juices.
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- And it's great in coffee, so it's just something that
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- We have created as a useful tool to augment a healthy diet.
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- Well, according to robert f kennedy jr,
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- Our young people are growing up
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- With more health issues than ever before.
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- But he's been encouraged that politicians he's met
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- With are ready to work together
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- On the health of people of all ages.
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- Listen to how he put it.
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- I will do everything in my power
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- To put the health of americans back on track,
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- And i've been greatly heartened to discover
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- A deep level of care
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- Among members of this committee of democrats and republicans.
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- We have massive health problems
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- In this country that we must face honestly.
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- And the first thing i've done every morning
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- For the past 20 years
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- Is to get on my knees and pray to god that he would
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- Put me in a position to end the chronic disease
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- Epidemic and to help america's children.
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- I would
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- Imagine you have to be encouraged
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- That this is finally on the national agenda.
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- I mean, you've been working at this a while.
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- Well, i'm encouraged that someone prayed for 20 years
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- And god answered their prayer so specifically and powerfully.
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- First and foremost, i last was with bobby kennedy
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- At gold's gym last march in, venice beach.
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- And let's just say that he is little over 20 years my elder
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- And not sure i could lift as much on the bench press
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- Or do as many pull ups
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- As he did, but he's a committed person to this.
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- And, i've seen him and been with him over the years
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- At various conferences.
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- And let's just say he was not treated with the same esteem
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- That he is being by many today because his ideas
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- Were seen as radical.
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- But for someone who comes from the family, he does.
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- He's been fighting for freedom, anti-police of our waters.
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- He's been fighting for medical freedom in a choice
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- And understanding that maybe we don't need 40 vaccines
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- Or 70 vaccines for our children when there used to be three.
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- And you can label him or me whatever you want.
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- But at the end of the day,
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- When you look at someone who has a consistent message
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- And who is simply asking you to become educated and question
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- The norms, i think that is the person you want to listen to.
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- And so i can't tell you how excited i am
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- That this has happened.
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- I remember early in the trump campaign
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- When rfk jr was against him, in a sense running against him.
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- I was very torn.
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- And i clearly vote on biblical principles
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- Of the rights of children to live and the murderous,
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- Behavior that is abortion,
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- Marriage between a man and a woman. and,
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- We'll call it gender identity, but it's how god created you.
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- It's your biblical identity creation, identity.
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- But it bothered me that the side that i often vote on
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- Seemed to be turning a blind eye to the health crisis
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- Of our children and our elderly and everyone in between.
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- And so when this,
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- Partnership came together, i was absolutely delighted.
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- Not everybody agrees with everybody on everything,
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- But i am more hopeful than i have been in my entire life
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- That we're going to see a leap forward in freedom.
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- And that's really what jesus died for.
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- It says in the bible, jesus died so that we could be free.
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- And the truth,
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- Which jesus is the truth if we know it, will set us free.
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- So i'm looking at this administration.
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- I'm not saying that, donald trump is a spirit filled,
- 00:14:55.554 --> 00:14:59.591
- Born again believer, and i'm not saying he isn't.
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- I'm not commenting on rfk jr's,
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- Prayer life, even though he clearly has one according
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- To that message, or where he may or may not attend church.
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- But what i know is they are sharing the truth.
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- And if we will believe it, it will make us free.
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- And that's what gets me so excited.
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- And i'm honored to be playing whatever role
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- I can in people's lives.
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- And i think having the wind at our back
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- Instead of on our face, preaching this message of health
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- And hope is just going to be awesome.
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- What we can say definitively is that a biblical worldview
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- Will make you healthier,
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- More peaceful, and bring freedom to your life.
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- That's good news.
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- We're going to take a short break.
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- We're going to take a short break.
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- We're back with jordan rubin.
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- One more quick question, jordan.
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- A lot of people believe that we could save
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- A great deal of money on health care
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- By first spending money
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- On our health, rather than spending it on disease
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- After the damage is already done.
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- That seem right? absolutely.
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- They say an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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- And, what will have prevented it may actually cure it.
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- So that's kind of how i live.
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- Another good adage you either pay the farmer
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- More now or the doctor more later.
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- And i think we really need to understand
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- What our responsibility is as children of god.
- 00:16:25.555 --> 00:16:28.091
- First corinthians 619 says, do you not know that your body
- 00:16:28.091 --> 00:16:31.694
- Is the spirit of god, that the spirit of god dwells in you?
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- Therefore, honor god with your body and your spirit.
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- And this is in a connotation of sexual sin.
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- But if you look at it
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- In its entirety, in its original language,
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- It talks about all facets of how you live,
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- How you breathe, how you eat, how you think.
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- And so i believe taking action steps now, especially
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- With your young people, your children,
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- No matter how old they are,
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- Is going to pay huge dividends in the years to come.
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- Well, jordan
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- Rubin, thank you for your time and for your wisdom today.
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- It's great to be here always.
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- Well, jordan has many great books
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- That you might be interested in.
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- We've got that address posted at aj now.com.
- 00:17:11.501 --> 00:17:14.937
- My wife and i are encouraged to see
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- This new national focus on health in a moment.
- 00:17:16.439 --> 00:17:20.209
- Your emails.
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- Your emails.
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- Thank you for taking the time
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- To send us your thoughts and opinions.
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- Your emails are important to us.
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- Dana and lauren emailed.
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- We run freedom farms in upstate new york,
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- And we saw your show with caroline carrera.
- 00:17:41.131 --> 00:17:43.901
- What a great message for your viewers
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- Helping to spread the word about the benefits
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- Of buying meat and vegetables directly from local farmers.
- 00:17:47.905 --> 00:17:50.874
- It's far more healthy, and you're also supporting
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- Your neighbors in the process.
- 00:17:52.809 --> 00:17:54.478
- Clean soil.
- 00:17:54.478 --> 00:17:55.546
- Clean air makes for the healthiest, clean food.
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- I hope you keep using your show
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- To showcase these best practices that will give your viewers
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- The healthiest life possible.
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- Well, we're trying.
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- We certainly have taken a step forward with that today.
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- You know, for me, the revelation is we honor god with what
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- We put on our fork,
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- Not just where we sit on sunday morning for a worship service.
- 00:18:13.964 --> 00:18:17.301
- How we treat our bodies and our attitude towards food
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- Is an expression of worship,
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- Just as
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- Much as when the musicians play
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- And we sing our favorite choruses.
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- For me, that's been a change of thought
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- And it's been good for me.
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- Nancy commented on a
- 00:18:31.481 --> 00:18:32.649
- Youtube episode with representative aaron bean.
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- The amount of hate, evil, waste and fraud in
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- Our government has left us trillions of dollars in debt.
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- How any person would want to harm the people trying
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- So hard to get us out of debt is something
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- That can't be understood without thinking of evil.
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- Well, nancy, i agree with you.
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- And it also seems to me to be it's
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- An expression of the game plan we've seen before.
- 00:18:54.938 --> 00:18:57.841
- Was it too many years ago that our cities were burning
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- With most mostly peaceful protest?
- 00:19:00.444 --> 00:19:03.880
- And once again, we see that pattern of violence being used
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- To try to disrupt policies that they don't agree with.
- 00:19:07.451 --> 00:19:10.721
- We can't accept it, and it is evil.
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- And we've got to use our voices to stand up.
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