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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Historic Summit | Allen Jackson Now | May 21, 2026
- Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- President trump's trip to china was designed to project
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- Stability between the world's two most powerful nations.
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- Inside beijing's great hall of the people.
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- Chinese president xi jinping hosted an elaborate state dinner
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- For president trump.
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- Members of his administration
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- And some of america's top business leaders and ceos.
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- It was formal,
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- Highly choreographed and intended
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- To send a message to the world that the relationship between
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- The united states and china remains strong and productive.
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- There were discussions about trade, iran, energy,
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- Artificial intelligence, and taiwan.
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- President trump said progress had been made
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- On several key issues, including including commitments
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- Connected to iran and major american exports.
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- But behind the diplomatic pleasantries
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- And carefully staged optics, there's a much deeper reality
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- Shaping this relationship
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- Because as the american delegation
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- Prepared to leave beijing, a very different message emerged.
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- Before boarding air force one, u.s.
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- Officials, staff members
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- And even members of the press traveling with the president.
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- Well, they were reportedly instructed
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- To discard every item provided by their chinese host
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- Badges, commemorative gifts, lapel pins.
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- They were all thrown away before departure.
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- The directive was clear items provided by chinese officials
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- During the trip. they were not allowed on board.
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- Well, that kind of precaution tells you something.
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- It reminds us that while america may negotiate
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- With communist china,
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- There remains a deep understanding
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- Inside the administration that
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- China is not a trusted partner in the traditional sense.
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- Well, xie jinping
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- Smiles beside president trump at a state banquet.
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- The chinese leader is simultaneously warning
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- The united states about taiwan threatening that any u.s.
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- Interference with china's ambitions regarding taiwan
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- Could be a game changer.
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- And less than a week after trump's visit, g
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- Hosted russian president vladimir putin in beijing
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- For what china said was the russian leader's 25th visit.
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- China also continues to maintain close relationships
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- With other adversary regimes, including iran,
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- While positioning itself as a global power broker
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- In the middle east and beyond.
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- You know, in this season of change, we're watching
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- A very visible demonstration of a spiritual conflict.
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- We're seeing a collision of kingdoms.
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- And i'm not talking about politics.
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- It's a collision of worldviews,
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- Of values, of good and evil, of dark and light.
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- China is celebrated as a tolerant place these days.
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- I have no doubt that many of the chinese people are tolerant,
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- But the government, they have not been so.
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- Mao zedong with his great leap forward.
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- It resulted in 45 million deaths between 1958 and 1962.
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- Let that sink in for just a moment.
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- In just four years, 45 million
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- Of his own people died because of his policies.
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- From 1980 until 2016.
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- China had a one child only policy.
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- It resulted in more than 300 million abortions.
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- It wasn't until ten years ago, in january of 2016,
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- When they changed
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- Their official state policy to a two child policy.
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- Imagine a government that dictates how many children
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- You can have.
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- Even now, it's a very cruel system
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- That the chinese people are surviving under.
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- It's impolite for us to say that because we benefit
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- From much of the abuse that they suffer.
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- We want to buy all the products
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- We can from china as cheaply as we can get them.
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- And we're mad at anybody that would put a punitive tariff
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- In place against them.
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- We love the chinese people.
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- I want them to know the gospel
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- And to know jesus of nazareth is their messiah.
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- But the chinese government,
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- Its communist, authoritarian, domineering.
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- They practiced
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- Modern day slavery, social control, manipulation.
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- And now xi jinping is taking it a step further.
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- The chinese communist party is attempting to rewrite the bible.
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- You heard that?
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- Well, it is yet to complete the project.
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- The ccp has already given a glimpse of what
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- The world's first communist bible just might look like.
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- Mere months after president xi's first announced his plan,
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- Authorities deleted the first of the ten commandments.
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- You remember that one?
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- You shall have no other gods before me.
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- The ten commandments became nine.
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- Then it was six and then zero.
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- The regime replaced the ten commandments wholesale with xie
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- Jinping quotes
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- The entire book of genesis that was removed to the regime.
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- It seeks to reshape the bible into a hollow communist
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- Doctrine, in an attempt to elevate the party
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- As the ultimate authority above everything else.
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- But in the midst of all this, some remarkable
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- Things are happening in china.
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- The underground church in china.
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- It's booming.
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- Younger generations are embracing jesus.
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- They it's hard to track.
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- But according to some experts,
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- China could very well have the largest
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- Christian population in the world by the year 2030.
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- God is truly moving in the earth.
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- In our nation, we have reason to celebrate.
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- Recently, the national mall in washington, d.c.
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- Was turned into a massive prayer rally for rededicate.
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- 250 thousands
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- Gathered in the heart
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- Of the nation's capital to publicly honor jesus christ,
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- To rededicate america to faith, prayer, and biblical values.
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- Some members of congress openly proclaim
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- The name of jesus without apology.
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- Cabinet members publicly acknowledged
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- America's christian heritage
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- And the importance of prayer in guiding our nation.
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- Speakers emphasized
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- That america's founding
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- Principles were deeply rooted in biblical truth,
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- And that the
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- Nation's future, well, it depends on spiritual renewal.
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- I'm grateful for the bold expressions of faith
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- That took center stage in our nation's capital.
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- Now, my question to you is what will you do
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- In your communities, in your neighborhoods?
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- Well, in china, they're doing everything
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- They can to sterilize the bible by removing anything
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- The regime considers threatening.
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- The regime aims to keep chinese citizens from applying
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- A biblical worldview into their everyday life.
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- As christians in america, what are we doing
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- With the freedoms and liberties which we have?
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- Christians have been reluctant to suggest that there's
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- A proper way to see and understand the world.
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- We've been hesitant to say that jesus is the only way to god.
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- We've wanted to be embraced by the culture
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- Instead of being lights in the darkness.
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- We begin to see the world from god's perspective
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- And then advocate for that with sincerity and enthusiasm.
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- I believe people will begin to see
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- The value of a biblical worldview,
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- And understand that godliness truly is the best way to live.
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- Tell the truth about your biblical worldview
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- Where you have influence.
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- The way for the truth to reemerge
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- Is for the people of god to decide.
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- We're going to be people of the truth.
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- Well, it's clear that there's no more important
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- Global relationship
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- Than the one between the united states and china.
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- In a moment, we'll hear from the country's
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- Leading china expert, gordon chang.
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- I'll be right back.
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- I'll be right back.
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- But we're joined now
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- By the country's premier china expert, gordon chang.
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- Welcome back. gordon.
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- Thank you so much, alan.
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- You know, president trump's visit to china has concluded
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- He's been back on u.s. soil for a few days.
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- And there were some celebrated accomplishments,
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- The purchase of some boeing aircrafts
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- That opening some markets to beef and other things.
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- But you know this story so well, i'm curious,
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- What are your overall takeaways from this historic summit?
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- And the first thing is that it is historic.
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- And i think historians are going to actually
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- Be talking about this for some time now.
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- Most summits are canned.
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- In other words, everything is decided beforehand.
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- This was not one of them, though.
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- And president trump deserves a lot of credit for dealing
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- With substantive issues in a hostile environment.
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- And it certainly was because xi jinping, despite the pageantry,
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- Some of his comments were extremely insulting,
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- Both to the president and to the united states itself.
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- You mentioned thucydides trap,
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- And even more insulting was new era.
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- New era.
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- It refers to a period where china rules
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- Or dominates the world, and the u.s.
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- Has been completely pushed off to the side.
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- The thucydides trap,
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- Which has gotten a lot of attention,
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- Really refers to a period in ancient greek history
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- Where you have
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- A declining hegemon dangerously confronts a rising power.
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- So both of those mentions on thursday of the summit.
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- I'm sure president trump
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- Is going to get back one way or another.
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- During the summit, he was confident
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- He didn't respond, which i think was the appropriate,
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- Way to deal with it.
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- But one way or another,
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- I'm sure president trump will even the the score.
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- You know, i thought
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- In real time,
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- President trump was very presidential
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- And showed a lot of restraint
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- Because there were some pretty insulting moments.
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- Just as a casual observer.
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- And i thought he behaved
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- In a way that represented us all very well.
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- Did i read that correctly?
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- Yes. i mean, and, xi jinping on on, on thursday, i heard it.
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- I really wanted to react immediately.
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- And then on friday, when, president trump, accompanied
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- Jinping to jong un high, which is a leadership compound,
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- And you had, the chinese give, trump a chair,
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- Which was noticeably lower than the one that jinping had.
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- And then i thought
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- That just shows insecurity on the part of the chinese.
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- It was just silly. it was petty.
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- And it it put china, not president trump,
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- But it put china in a bad light.
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- I thought
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- Secretary of state marco rubio framed it in a way
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- That was helpful for the american people to hear.
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- Listen to his comments.
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- China has a plan.
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- I mean, they clearly view themselves.
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- They believe they will be the world's most powerful country.
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- They'll surpass the united states.
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- And they have a plan to do it.
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- And they're executing on that plan.
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- And i don't blame them.
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- If i were the
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- Chinese government, i would have the same plan.
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- We, on the other hand, don't view it that way.
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- You know, i know americans want cheaper televisions.
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- But i think we need to listen
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- To the secretary of state in reminding us
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- That china has a much broader ambition.
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- Is he correct?
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- Well, you certainly correct.
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- Now, i don't begrudge any nation, including china,
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- To wanting to be number one.
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- Every nation in the world should want to be number one.
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- That's not the issue in my mind.
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- The issue, i think, is to what china does to become number one.
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- And we have seen some malicious criminal
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- Predatory tactics on the part of the chinese.
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- And that really is the issue.
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- China's words are hostile.
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- And so this is not sort of like they want to compete with us.
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- They want to destroy us.
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- And that is a critical difference,
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- Which means this isn't a competition.
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- This is what the chinese call it.
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- They call it unrestricted warfare.
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- And we need to adopt their terminology.
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- Help me with something.
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- Because i live with a distinction in my mind
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- Between the chinese people and the chinese government.
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- I have tremendous compassion for the people.
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- They live under all sorts of controlling, manipulative,
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- Dictatorial rules and authoritarian governments.
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- I want to see freedom come to the chinese people.
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- The chinese government
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- Has a long term approach to dominate the world.
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- Shouldn't we have a long term approach
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- To see the chinese people find some sort of freedom?
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- Oh, absolutely.
- 00:11:43.262 --> 00:11:44.730
- The most immediate, victim of the communist party,
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- Is the chinese people.
- 00:11:49.234 --> 00:11:50.903
- And the chinese people we know, are very different
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- From the regime because they many of them
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- Have opted out of society.
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- Many of them have resigned.
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- We see, just extreme pessimism throughout china.
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- And that is the result of communist party policies.
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- So there is this divergence.
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- It's the communist party were secure.
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- It wouldn't
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- Be running the world's most extensive surveillance state.
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- And the most one of the most coercive mechanisms on earth.
- 00:12:16.228 --> 00:12:19.898
- I mean, just this side of north korea for instance.
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- What policies could president trump
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- Or the united states put in place
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- That would actually facilitate some, some hope for the
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- Chinese people?
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- We need to go back to
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- Information warfare, which is what we did
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- During the cold war, and we need to do that quickly.
- 00:12:36.548 --> 00:12:40.552
- President trump, i think, took the wrong step
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- In taking down voice of america, but more important,
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- Radio free asia.
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- And yes, there were problems at voa.
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- But the answer to that is to reform the institution,
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- Because the chinese have been
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- Waging a malicious campaign of propaganda against us.
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- They put enormous amount of resources into it.
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- Their messages, which i think are ludicrous,
- 00:13:03.775 --> 00:13:06.411
- Are nonetheless resonating because of the repetition.
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- And we have got to understand that we are looking at a world
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- Where china determines what people think,
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- Not because of what they say is right,
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- But because they have
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- Almost a monopoly in many parts of the world.
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- On information.
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- And we need to get
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- That information to the chinese people, among others.
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- So if i hear you correctly, it's really
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- A shift in how we perceive this, rather than the march towards
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- Globalism and embracing china as an equal partner.
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- We recognize that communist
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- Government is a legitimate adversary,
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- And we go to work on behalf of the people.
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- And that's about information and policy.
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- Oh, absolutely.
- 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:48.787
- When, mike pompeo was secretary of state,
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- He actually said that the thing that got the chinese most upset
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- When he was dealing with them
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- Was when he was talking to the chinese people directly.
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- And so that is a hint for us
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- As to what we should be doing going forward.
- 00:14:03.235 --> 00:14:07.105
- Well, gordon, we need to take a short break.
- 00:14:07.105 --> 00:14:08.473
- There's a lot more i want to talk about.
- 00:14:08.473 --> 00:14:09.808
- Can you stay with us for another segment?
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- Of course.
- 00:14:11.910 --> 00:14:13.045
- We'll be right back in just a moment.
- 00:14:13.045 --> 00:14:21.005
- We'll be right back in just a moment.
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- We're back now with china expert
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- And author of plan red china's project to destroy america.
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- Gordon chang.
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- Gordon, it's hard to think about china
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- And not think about taiwan.
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- I know it was a topic during the summit,
- 00:14:37.903 --> 00:14:40.572
- But i'm not sure we understand it as well as we would.
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- But with the renewed warnings over taiwan
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- Following the meeting between trump and president xi.
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- Do you believe
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- China is genuinely preparing for military action?
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- Is necessary, or is it just another posturing?
- 00:14:52.484 --> 00:14:55.587
- Certainly, china is preparing for a military action
- 00:14:56.655 --> 00:14:59.758
- Against taiwan, but it is not prepared.
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- And so when we see you see jinping's warnings,
- 00:15:02.627 --> 00:15:06.798
- That's really bluffing.
- 00:15:06.798 --> 00:15:08.467
- Because he has decimated the top of the chinese military
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- With these purges that are intensifying.
- 00:15:11.670 --> 00:15:14.840
- And that means there are very few
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- Officers left who can actually conduct such an operation
- 00:15:16.475 --> 00:15:20.178
- On the communist party's central military commission,
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- Which controls the chinese military.
- 00:15:22.481 --> 00:15:24.916
- There are only two of seven members right now.
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- Wanted to see jinping himself, who was not a military officer.
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- The other is a general, but he's a political commissar,
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- Which means there are
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- No operational officers on the central military commission
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- Right now.
- 00:15:39.698 --> 00:15:40.866
- That makes it a little bit difficult for the coordination
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- That's necessary for a combined air link
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- Operation against taiwan.
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- Well,
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- Senator mike, i'm sorry, speaker mike johnson
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- Had some comments about taiwan that i thought were encouraging.
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- Listen to what he had to say.
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- I saw the statement from taiwan.
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- I thought there was a reasonable thing
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- For the leader there to say,
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- They've got to flex their muscle a little bit and,
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- And declare again that they are
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- An independent country and they must remain so.
- 00:16:06.625 --> 00:16:08.393
- We have an interest in that.
- 00:16:08.393 --> 00:16:09.895
- As again, do all freedom loving people around the world.
- 00:16:09.895 --> 00:16:12.264
- China cannot just go take over land.
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- And, we're going to stand strong and resolute by that.
- 00:16:14.499 --> 00:16:16.601
- I know the congress will.
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- Do you think premier ji believes that the congress
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- Will stand behind the president on the taiwan issue?
- 00:16:20.972 --> 00:16:24.309
- Yes, because congress has always
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- Been supportive of taiwan, and taiwan is independent.
- 00:16:26.478 --> 00:16:30.348
- It doesn't have to declare independence.
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- It's got all the the attributes of sovereignty
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- That are listed in the monster to veto, convention of 1933.
- 00:16:36.555 --> 00:16:41.193
- So it is a sovereign state, and,
- 00:16:41.193 --> 00:16:44.296
- It is a friend of the united states is critical
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- To our defense for a number of reasons.
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- So, yes, i believe congress and the president will stand
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- Behind taiwan.
- 00:16:52.971 --> 00:16:54.072
- The issue, of course, is the arms sale of the $14
- 00:16:54.072 --> 00:16:56.241
- Billion arms sale that's coming up.
- 00:16:56.241 --> 00:16:58.310
- I hope that president trump
- 00:16:58.310 --> 00:16:59.544
- Announces it, because to announce it,
- 00:16:59.544 --> 00:17:01.913
- We'll say to beijing that we're not afraid of the.
- 00:17:01.913 --> 00:17:05.250
- China has been strengthening their ties with iran, russia
- 00:17:06.384 --> 00:17:09.588
- And some other western anti-western governments.
- 00:17:09.588 --> 00:17:12.557
- Are we witnessing the emergence of a coordinated anti-us bloc,
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- Or are those partnerships more fragile than they appear?
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- I think that those countries, you know, you got china, russia,
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- Iran, north korea, the critics, as someone is called them.
- 00:17:25.203 --> 00:17:29.241
- They are, over time, generally tightening their bonds.
- 00:17:29.241 --> 00:17:33.912
- So, for instance, not only does china have a formal military
- 00:17:33.912 --> 00:17:37.749
- Alliance with north korea, russia, in 2024 actually
- 00:17:37.749 --> 00:17:41.720
- Inked a agreement with, with russia, with north korea.
- 00:17:41.720 --> 00:17:46.224
- So they are moving closer together.
- 00:17:46.224 --> 00:17:49.861
- But, you know, they they have differences.
- 00:17:49.861 --> 00:17:53.098
- Those differences were on display
- 00:17:53.098 --> 00:17:54.900
- When vladimir putin was in beijing.
- 00:17:54.900 --> 00:17:57.135
- So, for instance, although they, china and russia
- 00:17:57.135 --> 00:18:00.005
- Signed up those 40 agreements,
- 00:18:00.005 --> 00:18:02.274
- Putin didn't get what he really wanted,
- 00:18:03.108 --> 00:18:04.910
- Which was the green light for the power of siberia
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- To gas pipeline.
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- Well, if you were going to brief american viewers tonight
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- On the single
- 00:18:14.152 --> 00:18:15.153
- Biggest misconception they have about xi
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- Jinping in modern china, what would you tell them?
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- I think that china is not as strong as it appears.
- 00:18:20.959 --> 00:18:23.929
- It's got an economy
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- Which is stumbling, could even be contracting
- 00:18:25.263 --> 00:18:27.599
- From what we see from the april data.
- 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:29.868
- But it's also a country
- 00:18:29.868 --> 00:18:31.303
- Which is going to undergo the biggest demographic collapse
- 00:18:31.303 --> 00:18:34.573
- In history in the absence of war.
- 00:18:34.573 --> 00:18:36.708
- China, which is 1.4 billion people right
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- Now, is going to lose at least half of its people
- 00:18:39.211 --> 00:18:42.314
- By the time the clock strikes 2100.
- 00:18:42.314 --> 00:18:45.016
- So we are seeing a country that,
- 00:18:45.016 --> 00:18:48.119
- We just don't know what will happen
- 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:49.487
- Because it just hasn't happened before.
- 00:18:49.487 --> 00:18:51.957
- But, you know, you look at other things
- 00:18:51.957 --> 00:18:53.592
- That are going wrong in china.
- 00:18:53.592 --> 00:18:55.360
- The thing that is strikes me is the pessimism of
- 00:18:55.360 --> 00:18:58.797
- The chinese people themselves.
- 00:18:58.797 --> 00:19:00.732
- They just do not like
- 00:19:00.732 --> 00:19:02.100
- What is occurring in their country right now.
- 00:19:02.100 --> 00:19:04.202
- And they don't like xi jinping's leadership.
- 00:19:04.202 --> 00:19:06.838
- You know, i remember when i studied history,
- 00:19:07.739 --> 00:19:09.207
- Being told that the nations are most dangerous
- 00:19:09.207 --> 00:19:11.810
- When they feel weakened and pushed into a corner,
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- Which sounds a bit like what you're
- 00:19:14.779 --> 00:19:15.947
- Describing of china today.
- 00:19:15.947 --> 00:19:18.083
- Do you think they're unusually
- 00:19:18.083 --> 00:19:19.551
- Dangerous because of that impending weakness?
- 00:19:19.551 --> 00:19:22.887
- Well, they are dangerous
- 00:19:22.887 --> 00:19:24.122
- Because of the impending weakness,
- 00:19:24.122 --> 00:19:25.657
- But it's not because we've pushed them into a corner.
- 00:19:25.657 --> 00:19:28.059
- It's because
- 00:19:28.059 --> 00:19:29.327
- Jim has been taking the country in the wrong directions fast.
- 00:19:29.327 --> 00:19:32.731
- But, nonetheless, they are dangerous because si
- 00:19:32.731 --> 00:19:36.468
- Jinping is is the most ambitious aggressor in history.
- 00:19:36.468 --> 00:19:39.638
- He's been pushing this notion
- 00:19:39.638 --> 00:19:40.939
- That he is entitled to rule the entire world.
- 00:19:40.939 --> 00:19:44.309
- And now that he's talking about moon
- 00:19:44.309 --> 00:19:45.644
- And mars is sovereign chinese territory.
- 00:19:45.644 --> 00:19:48.246
- He has to be seen a limited window of opportunity.
- 00:19:48.246 --> 00:19:51.650
- Now he's very ideological.
- 00:19:51.650 --> 00:19:53.084
- He might not see it himself,
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- But the people who are subordinate to him
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- Obviously see it.
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- And i think that that's
- 00:19:58.657 --> 00:19:59.791
- Going to push them to move sooner rather than later.
- 00:19:59.791 --> 00:20:03.495
- Well, gordon, i thank you for your time today.
- 00:20:04.429 --> 00:20:06.598
- We always appreciate the insight
- 00:20:06.598 --> 00:20:08.199
- You bring to the situation with china.
- 00:20:08.199 --> 00:20:10.235
- Hope to see you again soon.
- 00:20:10.235 --> 00:20:12.304
- Well thank you so much ellen i really appreciate it.
- 00:20:12.304 --> 00:20:14.372
- God bless. thank you.
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- We'll be back in a moment with some final comments.
- 00:20:16.007 --> 00:20:24.999
- We'll be back in a moment with some final comments.
- 00:20:24.999 --> 00:20:28.721
- Thank you for taking the time to send us your emails.
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- They are always a highlight of our program.
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- Crystal be emailed.
- 00:20:34.427 --> 00:20:36.429
- I disagree with president trump's
- 00:20:36.429 --> 00:20:37.763
- Answer to the questions about foreign students
- 00:20:37.763 --> 00:20:39.899
- And china buying american land near military bases.
- 00:20:39.899 --> 00:20:43.169
- I'm not against embedded
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- In monitored foreign exchange students,
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- But in light of the spying there,
- 00:20:46.305 --> 00:20:48.207
- I think a halt needs to be
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- Put on any foreigners holding office.
- 00:20:49.442 --> 00:20:51.844
- And i don't agree with china buying our farmland, regardless
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- If it's near a military base or an aquifer
- 00:20:54.714 --> 00:20:57.283
- In the middle of our desert.
- 00:20:57.283 --> 00:20:58.984
- I'd love to hear your thoughts.
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- Well, crystal, i think we've got to be more
- 00:21:01.354 --> 00:21:03.489
- Watchful than we have been.
- 00:21:03.489 --> 00:21:04.690
- I think we've been way too casual, kind of pushed along
- 00:21:04.690 --> 00:21:07.693
- By the winds towards globalism and a globalist agenda.
- 00:21:07.693 --> 00:21:10.963
- I think
- 00:21:11.197 --> 00:21:12.164
- We have to respect our nation and protect it
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- From those
- 00:21:13.366 --> 00:21:14.567
- People who have clearly stated their intent to do us harm.
- 00:21:14.567 --> 00:21:17.470
- So china buying our farmland.
- 00:21:17.470 --> 00:21:19.271
- I don't think it's a good idea.
- 00:21:19.271 --> 00:21:21.006
- I want to close our program tonight and a bit
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- More of a personal way, if you will allow me.
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- Our executive producer, michael clemente,
- 00:21:27.513 --> 00:21:30.082
- Who has been instrumental
- 00:21:30.082 --> 00:21:31.517
- In the beginning of this program
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- And its emergence at every step.
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- Well, he unexpectedly stepped out of time and into eternity
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- A few days ago,
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- And we wanted to
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- Conclude today's show by honoring michael clemente.
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- It was his wisdom and compassion, his concern
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- And all the things that we didn't know
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- In helping us
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- Bring a biblical worldview to you with a truthful approach
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- We are deeply indebted to michael.
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- First time i've done a program
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- On this for this program without michael in my ear.
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- We want to honor his life and assure you
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- From a biblical perspective.
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- And we want to thank god for our friend michael clemente
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