Allen Jackson: Hormuz Threat | Allen Jackson Now

April 9, 2026 | 22:26

Commander Kirk Lippold joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.

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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Hormuz Threat | Allen Jackson Now | April 9, 2026
  • Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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  • I'm alan jackson.
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  • The war is on hold, but no one thinks that
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  • Whoever's in charge in tehran is going to stop pushing back.
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  • Not in two weeks,
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  • And not until there's a complete overhaul of iran's leadership.
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  • It's a fact that to the core, iran's military has just
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  • Been blown apart.
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  • But not entirely eliminated because they've been hiding
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  • Weapons for years across a vast countryside.
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  • And all the top leadership has been killed.
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  • Yet that won't stop them either, because there's always another
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  • Wannabe dictator to fill the empty seats.
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  • All of them are philosophically
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  • Bound by the destruction of israel.
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  • And while president trump
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  • And prime minister netanyahu have won this round,
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  • Who's left of iran, at least right now, surely wants to try
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  • To regroup with this time out in the fighting and try again,
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  • Even if they all die in the process as well.
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  • China and russia?
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  • Well, they'll re-arm them.
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  • They'll go on chanting death to america.
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  • And the citizens who don't comply, well,
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  • They'll be killed in front of those who do.
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  • Which leaves the united states, israel and several middle
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  • Eastern countries to finish off the job,
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  • Taking the enriched uranium,
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  • Ensuring that the strait of hormuz is open.
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  • And with any luck,
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  • Seeing the iranian population
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  • Overthrow the existing leadership.
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  • Listen to how j.d.
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  • Vance set the table for the upcoming negotiations.
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  • If the iranians are willing, in good faith, to work with us,
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  • I think we can make an agreement.
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  • If they're going to lie, if they're going to cheat,
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  • If they're going to try to, prevent
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  • Even the fragile truce that we've set up from taking place,
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  • Then they're not going to be happy.
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  • Because what
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  • The president has also shown is that we still have clear
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  • Military, diplomatic, and maybe most importantly,
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  • We have extraordinary economic leverage.
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  • Well, the truth is, if iran's negotiators talk honestly
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  • About a permanent ceasefire, it'll be the
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  • First time they've done so in almost 50 years.
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  • We shall see.
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  • You know, every time we think now we can make peace with iran.
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  • It's a slippery slope
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  • Because to have a legitimate peace deal,
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  • You must have people of integrity
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  • With which to negotiate.
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  • And iran doesn't meet that standard.
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  • Wherever islam is the primary political influence,
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  • It's anything but tolerant.
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  • And it isn't peaceful.
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  • It's oppressive.
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  • In places where islam is not the primary influence,
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  • It masquerades as peaceful and tolerant.
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  • But when it's in charge, it is neither of those.
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  • The ayatollah
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  • Regime killed 45,000 of its own citizens in the streets.
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  • In one week, 45,000 innocent civilians.
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  • The media treated it like a hiccup.
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  • It barely got reported.
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  • Women and girls in iran, they face state
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  • Enforced dress laws, surveillance and punishment
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  • Simply for refusing a compulsory hijab.
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  • In september of 22, a 22 year
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  • Old woman was arrested by iran's morality police
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  • For allegedly violating hijab rules.
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  • Eyewitnesses said that
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  • The morality police pushed her into a van
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  • Where she was subjected
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  • To torture and other horrific ill treatment.
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  • She eventually fell into a coma and died.
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  • Are you in fact finding mission described?
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  • Her death is unlawful and caused by physical violence.
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  • Amnesty international reported over 1000 executions
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  • In 2025 alone in iran,
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  • Tied to just dissent and protest.
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  • Human rights watch reported cases of detained children, iran
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  • Being beaten, electroshock, sexually assaulted, denied
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  • Medical care and pressured into silence after arrest.
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  • Amnesty international also reported
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  • That after killing children,
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  • The regime intimidated parents, restricted funerals,
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  • Threatened families to stop them from speaking publicly.
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  • Well, the regime that will do that to its own daughters
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  • And its own sons,
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  • They'll do far worse to its enemies if it gets the power.
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  • Let's stop pretending the iranian regime is just
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  • Some misunderstood government with different values.
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  • No, this is a regime that
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  • Has brutalized its own people for decades.
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  • If media members in our nation really understood
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  • The brutality of islam,
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  • I believe there'd
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  • Be a different national response to this whole conflict.
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  • Islam is not peaceful.
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  • Women are not treated well.
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  • Children do not have opportunities.
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  • Well, unfortunately,
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  • Most of us aren't willing to say those things.
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  • We must use our voices
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  • When we see something that is patently evil.
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  • We can't be silent and act like we don't notice.
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  • We've become so intimidated by the pressure of the culture
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  • That we won't say the truth, that we all know as christians.
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  • If we will use our voices,
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  • We can give some courage to the general public.
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  • Let's be bold with our biblical worldview
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  • And just see what god will do.
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  • You know, i
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  • Appreciate recently the boldness shown by victor glover.
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  • You may not have been familiar with his name before this week,
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  • But he's one of the astronauts on artemis two.
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  • This week,
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  • The crew traveled farther than any humans in history.
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  • The crew flew around the far side of the moon.
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  • They reached more than 252,000 miles from earth.
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  • During the mission, they came within about 4000
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  • Miles of the moon's surface.
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  • They briefly lost contact with earth for about 40 minutes
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  • Before gravity caught them and pulled them around,
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  • Putting them back to earth for the return journey.
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  • It's truly an astonishing accomplishment.
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  • Well, victor glover was a navy captain
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  • Who flew combat missions in iraq before becoming a test pilot.
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  • A nasa astronaut, and a crew member
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  • Of the international space station. victor is a christian.
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  • And when his wife asked him
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  • If he was nervous before his trip to space,
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  • He said, no, i've truly done everything i can to prepare,
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  • Including praying and reading my bible.
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  • Victor said
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  • Whenever he's in space, he really feels closer to god,
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  • Not because he was above the sky,
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  • But because, as he puts it, the bible says,
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  • When you submit yourself to god and come near to god,
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  • God comes near to you.
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  • Well, as christians,
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  • Culture tells us that we shouldn't
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  • Allow our christianity
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  • To be a prominent part of our professional life.
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  • That's a lie.
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  • Let's have the courage to lead with our faith, and
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  • To let it be a very prominent
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  • Part of who we are, personally and professionally.
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  • I look forward to hearing testimonies of christians in
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  • Iran sharing how god led them through unimaginable difficulty.
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  • I'm thankful
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  • This administration is taking action in that nation,
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  • And with all the tepid support from nato
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  • And the democratic party filling the airwaves
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  • With full time criticism of the u.s.
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  • Mission.
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  • In a moment, we'll explore all the options
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  • With a man who's had his own experience
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  • With the middle east terrorism and live to talk about it.
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  • The former commander of the uss cole, kirk lippold.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • Well, the world is
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  • Taking a deep breath now that a cease fire is underway.
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  • It took almost 50 years to get to this point.
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  • Just a few weeks for iran to be brought to its knees.
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  • It's a fragile truce.
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  • And getting things to a better place is going to take time.
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  • If it could work at all.
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  • Well, joining us
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  • Tonight is the former commander of the uss cole, kirk lippold.
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  • Welcome back sir.
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  • Thank you very much, reverend.
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  • Great to be back on the show.
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  • You know, the u.s.
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  • May have the upper hand, but iran has figured out
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  • How to push what few buttons they think they have left.
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  • Now they're playing gatekeeper on the strait of hormuz.
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  • That passageway were a very large part
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  • Of the world's oil passes through.
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  • They don't have a nuclear weapon,
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  • But they do have the ability to shut off the sea
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  • Traffic by threatening attacks.
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  • Do you think president trump
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  • Will eventually have to take over kharg island?
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  • Robert, i'm not sure if he's going to have to take over
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  • Cardigan island,
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  • But clearly there is a military plan
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  • That has been in place for a long time for us
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  • To ensure that the speed that the strait of hormuz remains
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  • Open for freedom of navigation to maritime traffic,
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  • Without any gatekeepers, without any tolls, none of that.
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  • The fact that iran is doing that,
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  • And in some ways using information warfare
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  • By even intimating
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  • That they may have planted mines in the strait,
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  • Has been enough to keep
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  • It bottled up at the end of the day,
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  • The united states and our allies,
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  • Both in the region and internationally,
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  • Are going to have to go in there
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  • And either compel iran to do it militarily or convince them
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  • Through a cease fire agreement negotiation process,
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  • That it needs to not only open now, but remain open
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  • For the foreseeable future with severe penalties
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  • If they try to keep it closed.
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  • Well, general jack keane was
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  • The architect of the successful iraq troop surge in 2007.
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  • And he thinks we should continue attacking iran
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  • Because they're just trying
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  • To buy time to have china and russia re-arm them.
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  • What's your opinion on that?
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  • I think it's a two fold sword.
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  • When you really look at it, yes,
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  • It does give them time to rearm and do everything,
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  • But we're the ones with the surveillance assets.
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  • We can use that to our advantage,
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  • Using the intelligence that we get
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  • From watching how their new communications mode sets,
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  • Nodes get set up,
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  • How they're beginning to communicate
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  • Between the leadership in the field,
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  • Where the rearming is going on so that we can develop
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  • A fresh set of targets.
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  • By the same token, it gives our focus on the aircraft carrier
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  • And at the bases, the opportunity
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  • To rearm, to refuel, to conduct maintenance,
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  • To get a little downtime for those crews that have really
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  • Been working 24 over seven ever since the conflict started.
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  • So there's a little bit of an operational pause
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  • That i think is much more to our advantage than to iran's.
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  • Well, you know, as you mentioned,
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  • If iran is rearming now, we're doing the same.
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  • It gives our forces a little bit of rest
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  • To refuel and recharge.
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  • Given that we've dominated iran, does
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  • This also give
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  • Us more opportunity to see where they're getting
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  • Their supplies, hiding them?
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  • Should we need to go back at them?
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  • Can we be better prepared this time?
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  • Even?
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  • Absolutely.
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  • And i think when you look at it, reverend
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  • Date, the bottom line for me is this is clearly proving
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  • That china is no longer a competitor or an adversary.
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  • They are the enemy.
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  • When you look at russia, they are clearly an enemy.
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  • They're providing targeting information.
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  • Both countries are providing weapons
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  • Or the capability to employ weapons
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  • More effectively against u.s.
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  • Forces and other forces or countries in the region.
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  • So i think at the end of the day,
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  • Watching what those other countries are, do
  • 00:10:29.887 --> 00:10:32.090
  • We need to be very careful?
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  • And if you take a larger strategic view,
  • 00:10:33.458 --> 00:10:36.527
  • What iran did over 47 years
  • 00:10:36.527 --> 00:10:39.897
  • Was surround the middle east with proxy groups.
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  • When you look at
  • 00:10:42.467 --> 00:10:43.701
  • What china is doing in the south china sea with those illegal
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  • Militarized islands
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  • And what they call the dash nine lines about to come back,
  • 00:10:48.139 --> 00:10:51.442
  • Ten with with antelope reef being militarized,
  • 00:10:51.442 --> 00:10:54.779
  • They are trying to create
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  • The ability to project power in the south china
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  • Sea to throttle maritime traffic,
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  • Just like iran is doing in the strait of hormuz.
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  • So what we do in the middle east with iran
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  • Is not being watched very closely by china.
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  • To make sure that we finish the job
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  • Is going to send the signal that,
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  • No, if you take taiwan and try to expand in the south
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  • China sea, there will be forces there to stop you.
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  • You have a great deal of experience in the middle east.
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  • If iran violates the ceasefire.
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  • How would you recommend we handle that?
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  • I think that what we do is we gather all the forces
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  • Together, plan the operation carefully,
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  • And then we strike with utterly overwhelming force
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  • To a point
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  • That it takes their breath away, wipes out
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  • Whatever leadership is remaining.
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  • And then we begin to look at it.
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  • And unfortunately, i think we have to look at what,
  • 00:11:42.894 --> 00:11:45.196
  • You know,
  • 00:11:45.196 --> 00:11:46.030
  • When president trump the other day
  • 00:11:46.030 --> 00:11:47.031
  • Talked about taking out civilization,
  • 00:11:47.031 --> 00:11:48.966
  • Taking out bridges and electrical,
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  • And everyone was crying about war crimes.
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  • If you have dual use facilities, bridges for logistics,
  • 00:11:53.304 --> 00:11:57.041
  • Power supplying power to military,
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  • Bases, for example, at the same time
  • 00:12:00.878 --> 00:12:03.514
  • They're supplying civilian.
  • 00:12:03.514 --> 00:12:04.949
  • Those are still legitimate
  • 00:12:04.949 --> 00:12:06.818
  • Targets under the law of armed conflict and international law.
  • 00:12:06.818 --> 00:12:10.454
  • So all these claims of war crimes are absolutely false.
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  • And at the end of the day,
  • 00:12:13.724 --> 00:12:14.959
  • We should strike iran overwhelmingly again
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  • And begin to take down those targets,
  • 00:12:17.428 --> 00:12:19.330
  • Because once again, it makes them less
  • 00:12:19.330 --> 00:12:21.199
  • Effective to project power.
  • 00:12:21.199 --> 00:12:22.834
  • Well, given that they can't even communicate among one another,
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  • Do you think we'll
  • 00:12:26.871 --> 00:12:27.772
  • Need to extend this pause in the fighting
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  • So they can get their act together?
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  • Or will that just be seen as another
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  • Of their predictable stalling tactics?
  • 00:12:32.543 --> 00:12:36.314
  • Iran has spent 47 years lying and murdering.
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  • I don't think we give them
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  • The opportunity to get their act together.
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  • If anything else.
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  • If they are not complying
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  • With the cease fire agreement and its strict interpretation
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  • By both sides,
  • 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:50.161
  • Then we go back and we hit them and hit them hard.
  • 00:12:50.161 --> 00:12:52.496
  • And at this point,
  • 00:12:52.496 --> 00:12:53.497
  • We also engage our regional partners to do it.
  • 00:12:53.497 --> 00:12:56.033
  • Because clearly yesterday
  • 00:12:56.033 --> 00:12:57.635
  • The cease fire was announced,
  • 00:12:57.635 --> 00:12:58.970
  • Yet missiles were still outbound from iran,
  • 00:12:58.970 --> 00:13:01.239
  • Impacting the countries in the region.
  • 00:13:01.239 --> 00:13:03.274
  • That was a violation.
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  • It's settled down today, even with president vance
  • 00:13:04.542 --> 00:13:07.612
  • Going there as a high level negotiator to pakistan.
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  • I don't believe iran is going to be trusted.
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  • It's not a matter of trust, but verify they cannot be trusted.
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  • Period.
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  • And that they are, in fact,
  • 00:13:18.489 --> 00:13:19.690
  • Going to violate that agreement at the first opportunity.
  • 00:13:19.690 --> 00:13:22.460
  • They see it to their advantage
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  • And we should be there to stop them.
  • 00:13:24.195 --> 00:13:26.063
  • Is there a clearly identified
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  • Leader for us to even negotiate with right now?
  • 00:13:28.366 --> 00:13:31.936
  • I'm not sure there is.
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  • Obviously, though,
  • 00:13:33.537 --> 00:13:34.605
  • The ayatollah is wounded and is in a hospital.
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  • He may or may not be communicating.
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  • He may not even be conscious.
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  • I'm sure that back channel more through
  • 00:13:41.612 --> 00:13:43.681
  • Intelligence channels than anything else.
  • 00:13:43.681 --> 00:13:45.816
  • We know who the leaders are, certainly within the irgc,
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  • Who is de facto running the government there.
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  • The mullahs may claim to be in charge
  • 00:13:52.456 --> 00:13:54.425
  • For the theocracy, but at the end of the day,
  • 00:13:54.425 --> 00:13:56.827
  • The irgc is the true target that we need to be negotiating with
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  • And eventually meeting our demands that we all laid out
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  • No nuclear weapons,
  • 00:14:04.902 --> 00:14:06.070
  • No ballistic missile program, no support for proxies.
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  • And now it's open the strait of hormuz.
  • 00:14:09.173 --> 00:14:11.242
  • So four key conditions that have to be met.
  • 00:14:11.242 --> 00:14:14.111
  • Absolutely.
  • 00:14:14.111 --> 00:14:15.313
  • Well, commander lippold, would you please
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  • Stand by for another segment? there's more to talk about.
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  • We're back now
  • 00:14:40.072 --> 00:14:41.306
  • With military analyst and former navy commander kirk lippold.
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  • When you were the commander
  • 00:14:44.743 --> 00:14:45.644
  • Of the uss cole, you learned quite a bit
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  • About how terrorism was conducted in the middle east.
  • 00:14:48.580 --> 00:14:51.183
  • What lessons from back then would you apply to
  • 00:14:51.183 --> 00:14:53.318
  • What the trump administration is dealing with now?
  • 00:14:53.318 --> 00:14:57.489
  • I think number one, reverend jackson, is you have to look at
  • 00:14:57.489 --> 00:15:00.826
  • What are the key
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  • Indicators that the terrorist organizations are using.
  • 00:15:01.994 --> 00:15:05.530
  • First, you start with where's the flow of money?
  • 00:15:05.530 --> 00:15:08.633
  • Because money drives their ability to recruit, equip,
  • 00:15:08.633 --> 00:15:12.671
  • Train, plan and conduct those terrorist operations
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  • Around the world.
  • 00:15:15.540 --> 00:15:16.641
  • In the case of uss cole and even 911,
  • 00:15:16.641 --> 00:15:19.444
  • We didn't
  • 00:15:19.444 --> 00:15:20.545
  • Have the intelligence apparatus to detect those things
  • 00:15:20.545 --> 00:15:22.914
  • Like we do today.
  • 00:15:22.914 --> 00:15:24.082
  • So clearly it is being implemented.
  • 00:15:24.082 --> 00:15:26.351
  • When you look at how successful
  • 00:15:26.351 --> 00:15:28.253
  • And how deeply the israeli mossad
  • 00:15:28.253 --> 00:15:30.822
  • And other intelligence organizations
  • 00:15:30.822 --> 00:15:32.657
  • Have penetrated within iran
  • 00:15:32.657 --> 00:15:34.493
  • To allow them
  • 00:15:34.493 --> 00:15:35.360
  • The ability to target the leadership
  • 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:36.862
  • So effectively over the last few weeks.
  • 00:15:36.862 --> 00:15:38.997
  • I think that's amazing.
  • 00:15:38.997 --> 00:15:40.565
  • We could not do this alone.
  • 00:15:40.565 --> 00:15:42.534
  • Israel could not do this alone.
  • 00:15:42.534 --> 00:15:44.136
  • We have to partner and work together.
  • 00:15:44.136 --> 00:15:46.171
  • And i'm just hopeful that at some point,
  • 00:15:46.171 --> 00:15:48.306
  • Both countries that are immediately
  • 00:15:48.306 --> 00:15:50.175
  • Impacted by the flow of oil not coming from the middle east,
  • 00:15:50.175 --> 00:15:54.312
  • Principally those european countries, begin
  • 00:15:54.312 --> 00:15:57.149
  • To realize that it is going to be in their best interest
  • 00:15:57.149 --> 00:16:00.619
  • To get engaged in this,
  • 00:16:00.619 --> 00:16:01.987
  • To help us get
  • 00:16:01.987 --> 00:16:03.188
  • That strait of hormuz open, because we may have confronted
  • 00:16:03.188 --> 00:16:06.058
  • Iran first, they may not have liked it.
  • 00:16:06.058 --> 00:16:08.260
  • But the real question is, okay, if you didn't want to do it.
  • 00:16:08.260 --> 00:16:11.797
  • You said they didn't want a nuclear weapon.
  • 00:16:11.797 --> 00:16:14.232
  • Well, if not now, when and if not, how many lives?
  • 00:16:14.232 --> 00:16:18.537
  • How many more have to die
  • 00:16:18.537 --> 00:16:19.805
  • Before you're willing to do something?
  • 00:16:19.805 --> 00:16:21.573
  • President trump took the bold step to finally do something.
  • 00:16:21.573 --> 00:16:24.609
  • Out of 47 years of both republican
  • 00:16:24.609 --> 00:16:27.746
  • And democrat administrations not having the moral courage
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  • Or ethical clarity to do what we are doing today.
  • 00:16:31.283 --> 00:16:35.487
  • Well, you mentioned europe.
  • 00:16:36.088 --> 00:16:37.189
  • The secretary of state says that nato
  • 00:16:37.189 --> 00:16:39.357
  • Has been a huge disappointment,
  • 00:16:39.357 --> 00:16:41.226
  • And we pay a fortune to protect the nato countries.
  • 00:16:41.226 --> 00:16:43.829
  • And some of them wouldn't
  • 00:16:43.829 --> 00:16:44.963
  • Even allow us to use their bases the past several weeks.
  • 00:16:44.963 --> 00:16:48.033
  • Listen to how he put it.
  • 00:16:48.033 --> 00:16:50.302
  • If now we have reached a point where the nato alliance means
  • 00:16:50.302 --> 00:16:53.405
  • That we can't use those bases, that, in fact,
  • 00:16:53.405 --> 00:16:56.041
  • That we can no longer use those basis
  • 00:16:56.041 --> 00:16:57.909
  • To defend america's interests, that nato is a one way street.
  • 00:16:57.909 --> 00:17:01.113
  • You know, president trump said flatly, nato wasn't there
  • 00:17:02.214 --> 00:17:05.016
  • When we needed them.
  • 00:17:05.016 --> 00:17:06.351
  • He believes the problem with nato started.
  • 00:17:06.351 --> 00:17:07.986
  • And when he began talking about expanding our bases in
  • 00:17:07.986 --> 00:17:11.123
  • Greenland before china tries to take it.
  • 00:17:11.123 --> 00:17:14.326
  • How big a mistake
  • 00:17:14.326 --> 00:17:15.260
  • Is this on their part, and what might it mean
  • 00:17:15.260 --> 00:17:17.262
  • If putin tries to move further into europe?
  • 00:17:17.262 --> 00:17:20.565
  • I think it's a big mistake by nato.
  • 00:17:21.333 --> 00:17:23.301
  • While they may not have liked how this conflict
  • 00:17:23.301 --> 00:17:25.570
  • Started with the united states taking the lead with israel
  • 00:17:25.570 --> 00:17:28.807
  • At the end of the day, a threat needed to be addressed.
  • 00:17:28.807 --> 00:17:32.644
  • It was the number one state sponsor of terrorism.
  • 00:17:32.644 --> 00:17:35.447
  • Iran was building
  • 00:17:35.447 --> 00:17:36.515
  • A nuclear weapon, and so they had to be attacked.
  • 00:17:36.515 --> 00:17:40.452
  • There was no choice.
  • 00:17:40.452 --> 00:17:41.820
  • Iran put the world in this position.
  • 00:17:41.820 --> 00:17:44.256
  • The united states took the leadership role,
  • 00:17:44.256 --> 00:17:46.725
  • Nato, in their failure
  • 00:17:46.725 --> 00:17:48.927
  • And actually initially condemning what we were doing
  • 00:17:48.927 --> 00:17:52.197
  • Just shows in some ways
  • 00:17:52.197 --> 00:17:53.698
  • How feckless the europeans are
  • 00:17:53.698 --> 00:17:55.300
  • When it comes to really understanding the threat.
  • 00:17:55.300 --> 00:17:57.702
  • Look at it today.
  • 00:17:57.702 --> 00:17:58.970
  • Russia has invaded ukraine.
  • 00:17:58.970 --> 00:18:00.906
  • The largest conflict on the european continent
  • 00:18:00.906 --> 00:18:03.608
  • Since world war two.
  • 00:18:03.608 --> 00:18:05.810
  • The european countries together could have given ukraine
  • 00:18:05.810 --> 00:18:09.381
  • All of the weapons that they needed.
  • 00:18:09.381 --> 00:18:11.516
  • But instead, every time putin bluffed that he was going
  • 00:18:11.516 --> 00:18:14.419
  • To do something, every time he rattled the saber,
  • 00:18:14.419 --> 00:18:16.922
  • Or even the nuclear saber, they cowered in fear,
  • 00:18:16.922 --> 00:18:19.991
  • Looked to the united states for leadership.
  • 00:18:19.991 --> 00:18:22.160
  • And so today, when this is going on,
  • 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:24.396
  • I think at the end of the day, well,
  • 00:18:24.396 --> 00:18:26.097
  • I don't think we need to pull out of nato.
  • 00:18:26.097 --> 00:18:28.200
  • We certainly need to look at what that organization
  • 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:30.669
  • Means for our national security as well as the
  • 00:18:30.669 --> 00:18:33.738
  • European continent.
  • 00:18:33.738 --> 00:18:34.940
  • It does give continuity across
  • 00:18:34.940 --> 00:18:36.741
  • Weapons systems and communications.
  • 00:18:36.741 --> 00:18:38.643
  • But by the same token,
  • 00:18:38.643 --> 00:18:40.178
  • After the
  • 00:18:40.178 --> 00:18:41.012
  • After the fall of the soviet union
  • 00:18:41.012 --> 00:18:42.747
  • And the warsaw pact dissolved. why does europe,
  • 00:18:42.747 --> 00:18:45.483
  • Why does the nato really exist today?
  • 00:18:45.483 --> 00:18:48.153
  • If you look at it in many ways, nato exists because it does
  • 00:18:48.153 --> 00:18:51.656
  • Prevent europe from going war to itself.
  • 00:18:51.656 --> 00:18:54.025
  • President clinton
  • 00:18:54.025 --> 00:18:55.093
  • And general clark in bosnia, herzegovina and kosovo
  • 00:18:55.093 --> 00:18:58.063
  • And serbia proved that
  • 00:18:58.063 --> 00:18:59.898
  • With the bombing
  • 00:18:59.898 --> 00:19:01.099
  • Campaign in 1998, because it was the only unifying factor.
  • 00:19:01.099 --> 00:19:04.603
  • Otherwise, europe was fracturing
  • 00:19:04.603 --> 00:19:06.104
  • Along the lines of 1914 and world war one.
  • 00:19:06.104 --> 00:19:09.207
  • So the alliance can still do good.
  • 00:19:09.207 --> 00:19:12.210
  • We could still be a part of it,
  • 00:19:12.210 --> 00:19:14.145
  • But they are going to have to undergo some reorganization
  • 00:19:14.145 --> 00:19:17.515
  • And some reprioritization of how nations help each other.
  • 00:19:17.515 --> 00:19:21.419
  • Well, before we run out of time, i'd like to hear your thoughts
  • 00:19:21.419 --> 00:19:24.122
  • On the brave rescue the u.s.
  • 00:19:24.122 --> 00:19:25.590
  • Conducted to get back the air force colonel
  • 00:19:25.590 --> 00:19:28.026
  • Who had to eject from the f-15 that was shot down.
  • 00:19:28.026 --> 00:19:31.296
  • What does that say about the united states
  • 00:19:31.296 --> 00:19:32.831
  • Military that you don't find elsewhere in the world?
  • 00:19:32.831 --> 00:19:35.967
  • I think when
  • 00:19:36.301 --> 00:19:37.402
  • You look at that is we don't leave anyone behind.
  • 00:19:37.402 --> 00:19:40.605
  • Let's face it, today
  • 00:19:40.605 --> 00:19:41.873
  • We are still trying to recover
  • 00:19:41.873 --> 00:19:43.441
  • The remains of world war two airmen.
  • 00:19:43.441 --> 00:19:45.810
  • Korea, vietnam, all the conflicts in our past.
  • 00:19:45.810 --> 00:19:50.315
  • We still go out so that no one is left in my air.
  • 00:19:50.315 --> 00:19:53.752
  • And eventually, i'd love to see it
  • 00:19:53.752 --> 00:19:55.220
  • To a point where we could lower that p.o.w.
  • 00:19:55.220 --> 00:19:57.322
  • Mia flag because we've recovered everyone.
  • 00:19:57.322 --> 00:20:00.258
  • That's probably an impossible goal,
  • 00:20:00.258 --> 00:20:02.327
  • But it is an ideal one to continue to pursue.
  • 00:20:02.327 --> 00:20:05.497
  • And the fact that we dedicated the resources necessary
  • 00:20:05.497 --> 00:20:08.800
  • Send a signal to the world that our people are valued,
  • 00:20:08.800 --> 00:20:12.871
  • That we want to take care of them.
  • 00:20:12.871 --> 00:20:14.606
  • And even when we give them the best equipment in the world,
  • 00:20:14.606 --> 00:20:17.375
  • Yes, occasionally things will happen, like people
  • 00:20:17.375 --> 00:20:20.245
  • Getting shot down,
  • 00:20:20.245 --> 00:20:21.446
  • But nonetheless, when they do, we will do whatever it takes
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  • In order to make sure that they come home
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  • Safely to their families. amen.
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  • Well, commander lippold, thank you for your time today
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  • And for your service to our country.
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  • We'll have you back on soon and enjoy your time out in montana.
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  • Thank you very much.
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  • Looking forward to it.
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  • The weather's beautiful coming out of winter.
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  • When i come back, i'll go through your emails,
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  • Which i thank you for sending in.
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  • If you haven't done so, yeah, you can log on to aj now.com.
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  • Click on the upper right and you'll see where to send one.
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  • I'll be back in just a moment.
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  • I'll be back in just a moment.
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  • Thank you for spending a few minutes of your day with us
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  • Your emails, your thoughts and opinions.
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  • They're always a highlight.
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  • Nancy commented on our youtube episode with captain chuck nash.
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  • Expose your life and heart to god and find the truth.
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  • Expose your life and heart to evil and you will find evil.
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  • Evil starts with pretty little lies
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  • Until you're no longer able to hear and understand the truth.
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  • Please walk away from the lies and the father of lies
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  • Before you can no longer hear the truth.
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  • Well, nancy, i think that is really good counsel.
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  • You know, we all need to pay attention
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  • To what we choose to listen to,
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  • Even for our sources of information and news.
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  • If we listen to the deception long enough, we become deceived.
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  • Your friends who you bring into
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  • Your circle of influence, it really matters.
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  • And ultimately, as i've been saying
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  • A great deal lately, i think your kitchen table
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  • And the power
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  • Of that kitchen table as the organizing point of your home,
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  • Have a meal together at your table.
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  • No devices.
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  • Unpack with one another
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  • What's happening in the world, what you understand.
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  • Learn together.
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  • Establish your values in your home,
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  • Especially if you still have
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  • Small children or grandchildren there.
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  • It makes all the difference.
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  • God is moving in the earth.
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  • I want to be a part of that and cooperate with him.
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  • I believe you do as well. have a good evening.
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