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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: IDF Resilience | Allen Jackson Now | June 25, 2025
- Well.
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- Good evening.
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- I'm alan jackson, and welcome to nashville.
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- All eyes remain on iran, israel and the greater mideast.
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- Iran's nuclear production plants have been destroyed,
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- But they still have hundreds, perhaps
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- Thousands of ballistic missiles.
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- There's a cease fire, but neither side appears
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- Content with having fired its last shot.
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- Nevertheless, iran's military has also been destroyed,
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- And when they tried to hit the u.s.
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- Military base in qatar yesterday,
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- Their missiles were blown up
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- Before they got anywhere close to the base.
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- Does the iranian leadership have a death wish?
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- The ayatollah is 86 and in bad health.
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- Maybe he's having a hard time
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- Just coming to grips with such a humiliating loss.
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- Or maybe he's not even fully aware of just how much he's lost
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- In this accelerated fight with israel in the u.s..
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- This is how the president summed it up.
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- Our objective was the destruction of iran's
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- Nuclear enrichment capacity, and a stop to the nuclear threat
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- Posed by the world's number one state sponsor of terror.
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- Tonight, i can report to the world
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- That the strikes were a spectacular
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- Military success.
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- Iran's nuclear enrichment facility have been completely
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- And totally obliterated.
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- Well, from that sign of strength
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- From washington to a much weakened dictatorship in tehran.
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- The iranian people are most certainly weighing their options
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- About whether they can rise up and push for new leadership.
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- There's one wrinkle.
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- The former russian president, dmitry medvedev,
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- Said that multiple countries might be ready to help
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- Arm iran with nuclear weapons that they produce.
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- Evil certainly has a way of finding more likeminded
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- Evil partners.
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- But the truth
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- Is that the good guys make up a much larger group.
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- And with that, i want to bring in tonight's expert.
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- It's a first time guest.
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- Our program from the heritage foundation, daniel flesh.
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- Daniel, welcome to our show.
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- Thank you. it's great to be here.
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- We saw in your background that before joining heritage,
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- You were a senior advisor
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- At israel's permanent mission at the united nations.
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- And before that, a paratrooper with the idf.
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- Would you start by giving us your take on
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- How things are militarily now that the u.s.
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- Has taken out three of the nuclear facilities,
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- And with all the strategic bombing
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- That israel has done to weaken iran's military?
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- Well, certainly, alan,
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- I mean, since israel
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- Initiated operation rising lion in the evening of june
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- 12th to the 13th local time there,
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- Bluntly, i have not stopped smiling.
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- It's been a military success through and through
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- And what is now called the 12 day war that culminated
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- With over the weekend with operation midnight hammer,
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- With the united states getting involved and striking three key
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- Nuclear facilities.
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- It's been a complete military success story and victory
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- Over the iranians.
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- Now, the question really is the
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- The politics now what the future looks like.
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- But israel is certainly debilitated,
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- Iran's capacity to not only target israel,
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- Because israel, iran largely pose a three fold threat
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- To the region as a particular but also the united states.
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- One is through its network of proxy
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- Organizations around the region, which includes hamas in gaza,
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- Hezbollah in lebanon, the houthis in yemen,
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- And associated militias and terrorist groups in syria.
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- Previously, the assad regime as well in syria, in iraq.
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- In addition, the ballistic missile arsenal
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- That you've mentioned.
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- And third, and perhaps most importantly,
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- Is the nuclear capacity.
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- And we know what it's just been doing on the proxy front.
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- And we know since operation rising
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- Why they've been destroying iran's
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- Ballistic missile capacity and production capacity.
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- And now with, the united states is, hammer blow, if you will.
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- Saturday evening, iran's nuclear production capacity is also
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- Significantly a setback.
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- We had a current member of the idf last week,
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- And he said that despite the fatigue
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- And the constant fighting since october 7th,
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- That your colleagues
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- Have all stepped up quite willingly across israel.
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- Is that your experience as well?
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- But most certainly, you know, before october
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- 7th, 2023, two things of note.
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- One is actually israel security perspective was focused largely
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- In judea and samaria and in the west bank
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- And by its terrorist organizations there.
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- They weren't really looking at hamas
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- Or the broader regional threat.
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- And secondly,
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- If you can recall to a time in israel before october 7th,
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- The main domestic issue was about judicial reform,
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- And that was almost tearing israeli
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- Society apart, or at least so it appeared.
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- It appeared that way to yahia sinwar, the mastermind and,
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- Of the october 7th invasion and massacre
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- And the leader of hamas in gaza up until his,
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- Unfortunate demise last fall at the hands of the idf.
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- But israel is back to a person
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- With the fight against the iranians.
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- The fight against iran's proxy
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- Groups around the region as well.
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- But certainly there is near there has been a near
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- Unanimous support for israel's fight against the iranians.
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- This is not for long any sort of party
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- Or ideological lines,
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- Because israelis recognize the immediacy of the threat
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- The iranians pose.
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- And i must say, as well, iran has been at war
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- With the united states since 1979.
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- So this is not just an israeli fights, also an american fight.
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- Well, i'd like to ask a political question.
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- There were many times the first months
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- That the prime minister was getting all sorts
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- Of criticism for his handling of the war,
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- But now that the end may be near, has bibi and his team
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- Received the support that he needs
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- To finish this rather long cycle?
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- It's a bit of a complicated answer, because getting back to
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- Now get to the politics
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- Of israel's,
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- Execution of the war in gaza, and particularly because he
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- Still had 53 hostages.
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- I think the last count, 53
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- Hostages, about 20 of whom are confirmed, confirmed dead,
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- I believe the current count is,
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- You know,
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- There's still a dual goal
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- That the government has in respect to gaza.
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- One is to ensure that hamas no longer is a governing force
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- And that hamas, gaza cannot pose a threat to israel.
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- And two, is to secure the, rescue of the hostages.
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- And so there's people in israel who prefer one versus
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- The other for a variety of good and bad reasons.
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- The way it goes, people are very complex,
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- But this will now come back up to the four.
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- So the past 12 days, the past two weeks has kind of been
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- Almost an interregnum period, if you will, to the goodwill
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- Behind the israeli government.
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- But overall, people have come to appreciate
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- Certainly netanyahu will be able to handle,
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- At least the american government under biden,
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- Navigating that complex political dynamics
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- In the first about, you know, about 14, 16 months, the war
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- And then now returning to gaza,
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- You know,
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- Didi's government's been holding there were some thoughts
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- That it might fall before the iran operation.
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- We might return to that.
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- But overall, there is broad support
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- For the likud led government.
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- Well, according to the white house,
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- The iranians gave the us some notice ahead of the time
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- They were sending missiles to the us base in qatar.
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- President trump responded
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- By trying to open the door to some peace discussions.
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- What do you make of what iran meant with this early notice?
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- I think it was just the prelude to the cease fire.
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- In some ways, it almost enabled this cease fire
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- Because iran is at least militarily defeated.
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- There's no combating or going to toe to toe, even
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- With the united states and much less israel
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- Demonstrated that it achieved air supremacy over western iran
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- Within a couple days of its initial operation.
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- And so the the response from iran,
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- They had a few different options.
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- I mean, in some ways they had to do something
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- At the end of the day, recognize that this regime since 1979
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- Has made its chant of death to the united states
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- And calling us the great satan, which it also says
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- Death to israel and calls them a little saying
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- It's not just a mantra, it's state policy, and it's unite.
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- So for the united states to initiate operation
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- Midnight hammer,
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- Which they bombed, fordo is fired at its facilities.
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- They had to do something in some ways,
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- Almost as, at the very least, as a safe phase,
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- A face saving gesture to their own people. questions.
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- What would they do?
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- They could maximize, maximize their response,
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- Doing something it's almost suicidal.
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- Is mining the straits of hormuz to impede
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- Shipping through there,
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- And also the export of of oil and energy.
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- They could also do a more full scale attack
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- Against israel, against the united states
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- And our bases and assets in the region.
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- They chose this kind of small, low scale, response
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- Against the al to date air base in qatar, outside of doha.
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- Now, it's not insignificant that they attacked missile.
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- They launched missiles there because even if you gave the us
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- And the guitarist advanced warning,
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- You're still launching deadly projectiles
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- At american servicemembers,
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- And you stand on the defensive side.
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- You still have to trust
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- In the capabilities of our air defense systems and interceptors
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- To knock out those missiles.
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- But these systems are not foolproof.
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- Sometimes they do get through.
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- But if you look back the last time that,
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- President trump initiated a strong operation
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- And a precise strike against the iranians,
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- It was in january 2020 when he took out carson slimani,
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- The now deceased head of the irgc,
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- And in response, their iranian proxies launched
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- Missiles against bases in iraq, american bases in iraq.
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- There were some service members who were wounded,
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- No one was no critical casualties or anything,
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- But that was kind of a small,
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- Safe, face saving gesture as well.
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- So this was a kind of a
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- Calibrated response, but we should not lose
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- Sight of the fact they still put american,
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- Troops in harm's way.
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- We're back now with daniel flesch
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- From the heritage foundation.
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- You know, it's interesting to see
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- How much of the rest of the world
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- Has stayed pretty quiet while israel and the u.s.
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- Go after the terror regime in tehran.
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- What do you make of that?
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- Well, it's.
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- You know, it's it's saddening and disheartening in some ways
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- Because iran, again, is not just a threat to israel.
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- They're a threat to the western world, to western civilization.
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- And they've been this way since 1979.
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- I'll tell you, some colleagues imagine a world where
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- The united states, recognizing the immediacy of the threat from
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- Is from iran.
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- And israel obviously recognizes they are, with operation
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- Rising, launching their attacks on iran.
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- If the western world were to galvanize, to speak
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- With one voice and one action against the iranian regime,
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- We have not seen that.
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- To your point, that's become a silence.
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- And in fact, most of the, chatter we've heard is from
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- The united nations castigating israel for attacks, on iran.
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- Despite that,
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- Iran is intentionally target or has been intentionally
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- Targeting civilian sites in israel.
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- They're not targeting military bases in the desert,
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- Where the f-35s and other plays that are used that are used in
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- These attacks are launching from there.
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- Not talking, targeting,
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- Israel's nuclear sites or anything like that.
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- They're targeting tel aviv and most of this,
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- About 40% of the population of israel
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- Lives in a fairly confined space
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- In the middle of the country, around the tel aviv area.
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- So if you fire something there, you're bound to hits,
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- You know, fire missile there.
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- You're bound to hit something.
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- And that something is
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- Very likely to be a residential or civilian facility.
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- And it's really unfortunate as we begin to cover it
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- Because it's really, an abrogation of our moral duty
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- In the west to be leaders and guides in this regard.
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- But this is also kind of keeping the track record of the world
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- In general response since the october 7th attack.
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- Well,
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- President trump put out a push for the iranian people to drive
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- What he called a make iran great again message.
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- He called it.
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- It's an obvious twist on his maga movement.
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- Do you think he's trying to push
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- For a leadership change in iran?
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- Actually, a regime change, a terror regime change.
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- What the president doing there is speaking directly
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- To the ayatollah.
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- I mean, i think he's saying to him, a couple of things.
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- One is, you know, we know we've stopped short
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- Of replacing you, whatever that means.
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- But also, it's not outside the realm of possibility
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- That we will pursue that action one day.
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- And it's true that nation building
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- Regime change, we in america, we don't have the best
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- Recent history with that.
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- And we should not be pursuing
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- It, particularly as we've done the last 25 years.
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- However, he's speaking to the ayatollah.
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- He did that a couple of weeks ago
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- When he was in the situation room and said,
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- You know, unconditional surrender.
- 00:12:35.047 --> 00:12:36.348
- Another tweet said something to the effect of,
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- You know, we're not going to take you out,
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- Ayatollah, but we know where you are.
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- We can if we want to.
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- That's very much the case.
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- Israel is certainly not pushing
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- For regime change
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- In the capacity or the interest or the will to do so.
- 00:12:46.124 --> 00:12:48.827
- But it's also saying
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- To the iranian people, and one thing
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- You saw the last couple of days of israeli strikes
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- Was targeting not so much military sites in terms of,
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- Holistic missile production
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- Facilities or launching pads, etc., or nuclear sites.
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- They're actually targeting regime sites.
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- The state broadcasting network, the irgc headquarters.
- 00:13:05.677 --> 00:13:09.848
- Iran actually has a doomsday clock in tehran,
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- Where they do a countdown to supposed
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- The supposed destruction of israel in 2040.
- 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:16.788
- Israel destroyed that.
- 00:13:16.788 --> 00:13:18.023
- These are very symbolic gestures showing to the iranian people.
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- The regime is a weakened.
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- It's as weak as it's ever been.
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- And your comments or your
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- Your mentioning of the president's tweet,
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- You know, it's on the iranian people,
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- Of which most are opposed to this regime.
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- And they're intelligent, largely western individuals, society.
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- They should be
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- And can be the best of friends to the united states
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- And to israel, to the western world.
- 00:13:37.009 --> 00:13:38.510
- The only thing preventing that is the regime now
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- That the regime is significantly weakened.
- 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:42.681
- You know, we can hope and pray,
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- But we can also take some action to support the iranian people
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- In they're hopeful, you know, intentional or one day
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- Headed bid to reclaim the country.
- 00:13:50.589 --> 00:13:52.624
- Well before we run out of time,
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- Can you look past the next few weeks and imagine
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- What could come of a mideast without terror?
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- Gang running iran,
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- A future with several countries working together on issues
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- That affect each of them?
- 00:14:04.169 --> 00:14:05.470
- What do you think is really possible?
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- What the risk of the last few weeks showing that
- 00:14:07.906 --> 00:14:09.841
- We can't really look past
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- The next couple of days in the middle east?
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- I will say that
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- In particular, the heritage foundation,
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- And one thing we're focused large a lot on is normalization.
- 00:14:15.347 --> 00:14:18.450
- This was a great legacy of the president's first term
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- With the abraham accords.
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- And we want to work on expanding
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- Those that circle of normalization,
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- Which we think is very much possible in the president.
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- I think it also as well.
- 00:14:27.326 --> 00:14:29.161
- So looking past,
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- You know, the next few weeks or months or years,
- 00:14:30.529 --> 00:14:33.198
- There's always
- 00:14:33.198 --> 00:14:34.366
- Already been chatter about which are the next countries
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- To be brought into the abraham accords.
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- It's effectively a new middle east.
- 00:14:38.337 --> 00:14:39.871
- I mentioned earlier the assad regime is no longer in syria.
- 00:14:39.871 --> 00:14:44.076
- Syria is kind of a basket case right now.
- 00:14:44.076 --> 00:14:45.911
- It remains to is seen
- 00:14:45.911 --> 00:14:46.745
- Who's going to rise out of those ashes.
- 00:14:46.745 --> 00:14:48.413
- The lebanon's a different situation
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- With hezbollah effectively destroyed.
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- There are setbacks, and that's a good way.
- 00:14:51.650 --> 00:14:54.219
- Iran is as vulnerable and weak as it's ever been.
- 00:14:54.219 --> 00:14:56.388
- It's really a new opportunity for peace and normalization.
- 00:14:56.388 --> 00:14:59.257
- I think peace people going be singing kumbaya together,
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- But actually recognizing
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- That there's common interests and common
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- Opportunities between israel and the arab countries
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- And really the arab countries with israel.
- 00:15:07.432 --> 00:15:09.267
- That is certainly a possibility, something we could all,
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- You know, work and hope for.
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- Well, daniel flesch, thank you for your time today.
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- We'll have you back again
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- When things clear up a bit on the ground.
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- Thank you so much. been a pleasure.
- 00:15:19.845 --> 00:15:21.646
- Well, in a moment, my thoughts on a region
- 00:15:21.646 --> 00:15:24.282
- Ready for hope.
- 00:15:24.282 --> 00:15:32.007
- Ready for hope.
- 00:15:32.007 --> 00:15:36.462
- You know, iran has long declared its intent.
- 00:15:37.363 --> 00:15:40.199
- Their leaders openly chant, death to israel.
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- Death to america.
- 00:15:42.602 --> 00:15:44.270
- That's not political rhetoric.
- 00:15:44.270 --> 00:15:45.671
- That's a declaration of war.
- 00:15:45.671 --> 00:15:48.107
- And when someone tells you they want to destroy you,
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- Believe them.
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- Iran has poured
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- Billions of dollars annually into hamas in gaza.
- 00:15:53.179 --> 00:15:56.149
- Hezbollah in lebanon and the houthis in yemen.
- 00:15:56.149 --> 00:15:59.218
- These are terrorist organization instruments of destruction.
- 00:15:59.218 --> 00:16:02.488
- They're trained and armed to attack israel
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- And to massacre the jewish people.
- 00:16:05.091 --> 00:16:07.527
- The rockets raining down on israeli cities
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- That cause families to flee into bomb shelters.
- 00:16:09.529 --> 00:16:12.165
- They were supplied by iran, hezbollah rockets
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- From the north, iranian hamas rockets from the south.
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- Iran helped develop them.
- 00:16:19.539 --> 00:16:21.674
- Iran doesn't hide its ambitions.
- 00:16:21.674 --> 00:16:24.510
- They call israel a cancerous tumor.
- 00:16:24.510 --> 00:16:27.180
- And we saw what evil personify allied
- 00:16:27.180 --> 00:16:28.948
- Looks like on october 7th and 2023.
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- It wasn't human behavior.
- 00:16:32.218 --> 00:16:34.520
- Animals treat each other better,
- 00:16:34.520 --> 00:16:36.556
- While israeli fathers and mothers wept with grief.
- 00:16:36.556 --> 00:16:39.325
- The iranian mullahs, they rejoiced.
- 00:16:39.325 --> 00:16:42.695
- Now, add to this the disturbing fact that previous white house
- 00:16:42.695 --> 00:16:45.832
- Administrations were complicit in enabling iran.
- 00:16:45.832 --> 00:16:49.669
- The obama administration lifted economic sanctions,
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- Giving iran access to several billions
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- In previously frozen overseas assets funds that
- 00:16:54.740 --> 00:16:58.044
- Iran used in part to bolster terror proxies like hamas.
- 00:16:58.044 --> 00:17:01.647
- Hezbollah. under president biden, the u.s.
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- Reverse trump's maximum pressure campaign against iran.
- 00:17:03.916 --> 00:17:07.453
- Easing enforcement of oil sanctions and allowing
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- Iran to export billions of dollars in crude oil.
- 00:17:09.889 --> 00:17:12.792
- Well, i believe that god showed mercy
- 00:17:13.593 --> 00:17:15.328
- In the last election
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- By giving us a pro-israel administration
- 00:17:16.229 --> 00:17:18.664
- That is course corrected on policies
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- Towards the enemies of israel and america.
- 00:17:20.466 --> 00:17:22.869
- President trump,
- 00:17:22.869 --> 00:17:24.070
- He took decisive action
- 00:17:24.070 --> 00:17:25.338
- When he saw the window
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- Of opportunity to take out iran's nuclear facilities.
- 00:17:26.472 --> 00:17:29.342
- The results of all of that,
- 00:17:29.342 --> 00:17:30.977
- He potentially prevented a nuclear holocaust
- 00:17:30.977 --> 00:17:33.246
- For the jewish people in the future.
- 00:17:33.246 --> 00:17:35.414
- You and i, we can pray for the peace of jerusalem
- 00:17:35.414 --> 00:17:38.484
- And for wisdom for our leaders to make choices that
- 00:17:38.484 --> 00:17:41.254
- Bring god's blessings to our nation and to our homes.
- 00:17:41.254 --> 00:17:44.657
- We'll do that.
- 00:17:44.657 --> 00:17:45.625
- There's more reasons for hope than despair.
- 00:17:45.625 --> 00:17:47.894
- I promise i'll be back with your emails
- 00:17:47.894 --> 00:17:51.130
- In just a moment.
- 00:17:51.130 --> 00:17:59.004
- In just a moment.
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- Welcome back to our program.
- 00:18:04.277 --> 00:18:05.778
- Just a reminder, if you ever miss an episode,
- 00:18:05.778 --> 00:18:08.147
- You can always go to aj. now, dot com.
- 00:18:08.147 --> 00:18:10.516
- There's an archive there of all
- 00:18:10.516 --> 00:18:11.717
- The programs are easy to watch and even share a link with
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- A friend.
- 00:18:14.453 --> 00:18:15.688
- And thank you for your emails, dina emailed.
- 00:18:15.688 --> 00:18:18.858
- Some people say that israel of
- 00:18:18.858 --> 00:18:20.293
- Today is not the israel god tells us to pray for,
- 00:18:20.293 --> 00:18:23.596
- And that the jews of today
- 00:18:23.596 --> 00:18:24.931
- Are not the jewish nation that the bible says to pray for.
- 00:18:24.931 --> 00:18:28.067
- Other than praying, what can i say?
- 00:18:28.067 --> 00:18:30.136
- You know, i get that question quite a bit.
- 00:18:31.003 --> 00:18:32.872
- There's kind of a fancy word for that denial
- 00:18:32.872 --> 00:18:35.374
- Of the modern state of israel being biblical.
- 00:18:35.374 --> 00:18:37.210
- It's called replacement theology.
- 00:18:37.210 --> 00:18:39.545
- And behind it is the rather arrogant, unbiblical notion
- 00:18:39.545 --> 00:18:43.015
- That any place you read israel,
- 00:18:43.015 --> 00:18:44.283
- You can just pencil in christian or church.
- 00:18:44.283 --> 00:18:46.619
- It's bad theology.
- 00:18:46.619 --> 00:18:47.720
- It'll lead you towards bad outcomes.
- 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:49.722
- And fueling it all, i believe, is the spirit of antichrist
- 00:18:49.722 --> 00:18:52.925
- That you can love the people that have the wrong idea,
- 00:18:52.925 --> 00:18:54.994
- But i'd share the scripture with them and encourage them
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- To prayerfully consider what god's word says.
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- Brian, from east vale, california says,
- 00:19:01.367 --> 00:19:03.970
- Thank you for addressing illegal immigration.
- 00:19:03.970 --> 00:19:06.272
- My wife and i paid all the fees, filled out all the forms,
- 00:19:06.272 --> 00:19:09.141
- And waded through all the long lines to bring her into the u.s.
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- Legally.
- 00:19:12.278 --> 00:19:13.379
- It's disrespectful to all of those
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- Who legally immigrated
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- To allow illegals to do anything less than we did.
- 00:19:16.549 --> 00:19:19.585
- If i tried to run across the border
- 00:19:19.585 --> 00:19:20.953
- Of my wife's home country, i'd be shot dead, no doubt.
- 00:19:20.953 --> 00:19:24.657
- Well, brian, i think you're exactly right.
- 00:19:24.657 --> 00:19:26.759
- I think we dishonor all of the people
- 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:29.595
- Who participate in the system that's been built
- 00:19:29.595 --> 00:19:32.298
- When we encourage millions of people to behave illegally.
- 00:19:32.298 --> 00:19:36.135
- It's not a love for country.
- 00:19:36.135 --> 00:19:37.336
- It's not compassion.
- 00:19:37.336 --> 00:19:39.005
- It's fostering lawlessness.
- 00:19:39.005 --> 00:19:40.673
- And we shouldn't do it. thank you for the reminder.
- 00:19:40.673 --> 00:19:44.677
- And finally, don emailed.
- 00:19:45.244 --> 00:19:46.712
- I was impressed
- 00:19:46.712 --> 00:19:47.647
- By your messaging on wednesday, june 18th,
- 00:19:47.647 --> 00:19:50.316
- Presenting the history of palestine as a history
- 00:19:50.316 --> 00:19:52.585
- Major in college, i'd forgotten much of the facts
- 00:19:52.585 --> 00:19:54.754
- And heritage of the region.
- 00:19:54.754 --> 00:19:56.355
- I truly hope you'll encourage
- 00:19:56.355 --> 00:19:58.024
- Everybody on ag now to to view this message.
- 00:19:58.024 --> 00:20:01.861
- Well, don, thanks for a plug in my sermons.
- 00:20:01.861 --> 00:20:04.930
- We hope that doesn't happen a lot.
- 00:20:04.930 --> 00:20:07.133
- We got to be reminded of the truth.
- 00:20:07.133 --> 00:20:08.668
- There's too many confusing messages.
- 00:20:08.668 --> 00:20:10.603
- It's one of the reasons we do this program.
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- Thank you for spending a few minutes with us
- 00:20:12.905 --> 00:20:14.507
- This evening.
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- You keep choosing the truth and god will move in our midst.
- 00:20:15.741 --> 00:20:18.878
- I'm alan jackson.
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- You have a wonderful evening.
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