Pete Peterson joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Intel Bombshell | Allen Jackson Now | July 25, 2025
- Well.
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- Good evening.
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- I'm alan jackson, and welcome to nashville.
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- They call the news the first draft of history.
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- But if you listen to the two
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- Different versions of the first draft these days,
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- You'd think you're living in two very different worlds.
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- One version has the country under quick
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- Repair with major world powers, investing in the united states.
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- Japan is the latest.
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- In this case, $550 billion worth of investment
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- And thousands of american jobs to come.
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- There's no more criminals crossing our borders.
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- Nuclear threats have been diminished, if not eliminated.
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- Now that's history, isn't it?
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- And young men and women enlisting in our military again.
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- President trump says america is a hot country now.
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- But if you listen to the other first draft of history, it's
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- Not memorable.
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- And it's
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- No more important
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- Than the stories that run in the supermarket tabloids.
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- Not in the history books.
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- With that,
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- I want to bring in our guest tonight,
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- Joining us from malibu, california,
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- The dean of pepperdine school of public policy, pete peterson.
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- Welcome back. pete.
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- Great to be with you, alan.
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- History is certainly being written now
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- Following the document released
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- From the director of national intelligence.
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- Tulsi gabbard has put out a series
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- Of previously secret government documents that show former
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- President obama directed the fbi and the cia
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- To turn otherwise incomplete intelligence
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- Into a narrative about collusion between president elect trump
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- And russia.
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- It was a narrative they knew was wrong,
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- But they did it
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- Anyway to try to take down president elect trump.
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- Pete, before we get into the specifics,
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- Tell us just initial thoughts about what we've heard.
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- Well, i think it's first important to point out
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- That this report that has now been released by the dni
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- Actually dates back to 2020.
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- This has been information and research that has
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- Now over five years old.
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- And so to
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- Learn about it now, i think in one sense is disappointing.
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- This has been information that's been known
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- By the intelligence committee, our community, for
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- Several years.
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- And obviously, as we'll get into the details are even
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- More concerning.
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- But i would just say at first blush,
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- I think what has to concern americans
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- Is that this very deep research that was done, comprising
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- This report that's now been released is is five years old.
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- Well, it's a story with many tentacles,
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- But it boils down to something very simple,
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- Which is that there was no intelligence
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- In the hands of the cia
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- That showed any collusion between trump and russia.
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- Collusion didn't exist.
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- Nevertheless, former president obama directed both the cia
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- And the fbi to create a made up narrative that trump
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- Got help from the russia and helped to win the election.
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- Senator rand paul pointed out a key piece of the evidence.
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- One of the documents that tulsi gabbard has released
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- Is an exchange between the cia analyst and brennan,
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- And one cia analyst says that this is nothing more
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- Than opposition research.
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- It's unverified.
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- And, brennan sort of flip it response is, yeah,
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- But doesn't really ring true.
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- Does it sound like it could be true?
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- So apparently
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- Sounding like it could be true was the standard they used.
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- They knew it was unverified opposition research.
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- Obama says
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- The stories are all simply meant to be a distraction,
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- But it doesn't sound like a whole lot more than that.
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- It sure does, alan, in that particular quotation
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- That the senator cites that doesn't ring true
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- Out of the then cia director, is just so
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- Disturbing to have people at that level of,
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- Government leadership,
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- Specifically in the intelligence community
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- Who are pushing this.
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- And i think that's another thing that comes through
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- So clearly in the report.
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- And i would encourage all of the viewers to, to download it.
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- I mean, it's now a publicly available document.
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- You can actually look at this
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- Intelligence community, assessment,
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- But it really does come through this constant pushing
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- By the then obama administration,
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- Through the intelligence community,
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- To really run through a bunch of yellow lights, if you will,
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- That there really were even in turn, leaked
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- Even by brennan's handpicked deputies who were,
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- Reviewing the then intelligence
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- About the so-called, trump russia collusion, even.
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- They were coming back to brennan saying,
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- We're just not seeing a there there
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- That brennan continued over and over again
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- To override them and continue to push this narrative.
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- And obviously that had significant repercussions
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- Not only for
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- The intelligence community, but i would just take us back
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- To that first year of the biden administration, 2021,
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- And i'm certainly looking back now at the trump
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- Administration in 2017, when both the media
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- As well as the democratic establishment within congress
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- Was taking this really unverified,
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- And weak, intel agents reporting and trying to turn that
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- Into significant stories, all with an intent, a damaging,
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- A very early in young
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- Administration.
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- Well, tulsi gabbard says she has employees
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- In the intelligence department
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- Who are now coming forward to tell her how it worked,
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- Including the fact that brennan was told
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- That there was no hard
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- Information to back the narrative that was written.
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- Whether there's something to prosecute
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- Or not is another matter.
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- But isn't this exactly the type of fear people
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- Have about the so-called deep state?
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- It is allen.
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- And again, at any level,
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- From the
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- Highest reaches of the cia, as we've seen here all the way,
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- Straight through to our local police,
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- We invest as a democratic republic,
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- These institutions with incredible power.
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- And as we all know, as people of faith,
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- With great power comes great responsibility.
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- To whomsoever much is given, much will be expected.
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- And in many of the instances
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- That we're now that are now being revealed,
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- The people who were invested with great deals of power,
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- Including the former dni, james clapper,
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- We we have seen time.
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- We're seeing time and time again,
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- People abusing that power.
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- Now, to your point,
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- Whether this is criminal
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- Or not remains an entirely different matter.
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- But i think even what's in this report suffices
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- To paint a picture that intelligence leaders
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- In the united states government were,
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- Really taking what was a very weak
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- Intelligence material and trying to spin it up into a
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- Major story.
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- All with the intent of damaging, the early years
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- Of the first trump administration.
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- You know,
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- I suppose the big mystery still is what type of case
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- Could the justice department be able to build,
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- Especially given that the supreme courts
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- Already ruled that former
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- Presidents can't be criminally prosecuted
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- For actions that fall within their core
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- Constitutional powers of the presidency?
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- What's your opinion on a potential prosecution effort?
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- And even if it's necessary?
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- Well, i'm
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- Very, to your point, it seems as though
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- And i believe in this actually,
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- From a constitutional perspective, that,
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- Presidents should have special levels of immunity.
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- Without that, it just sets off, a number of different
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- Possible scenarios where opposing parties
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- Could go back and and seek to derail a presidency,
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- Even one that is, served already.
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- But those immunities will not protect others
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- In that administration.
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- And whether we're talking about,
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- John brennan or james clapper
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- Or some of the others in the administration,
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- The former obama administration,
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- I think all each of those,
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- Participants in this,
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- Broader scenario need to be explored
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- And brought to justice if, in fact, laws were broken.
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- Again, i want to make that nexus point
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- Between the intelligence development that was happening,
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- But also what happened in that first year,
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- The trump administration in 2017.
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- And remember the calls very early on for impeaching
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- The president due to this so-called collusion
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- And then going on to further impeachment processes,
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- All of these, both in capitol hill and within the larger
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- Washington, dc media establishment,
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- Were all intending to, derail or inhibit,
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- The work of that first trump presidency.
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- And i think for those reasons, we really need to get to
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- The bottom of what happened, there in 2016 into 2017.
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- Well, pete, please stay with us for another segment.
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- There's more to discuss on some other issues.
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- And for those of you watching, if you like,
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- You can use this time to
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- Write me your thoughts on this genuinely big breaking story.
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- Just go to aj now.com.
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- I'd love to hear from you.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We're back now with pete peterson, the dean
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- Of the school of public policy at pepperdine university.
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- I'd like to go through a few more issues while we have you.
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- I realize that you're 3000 miles away from new york city,
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- But from your public policy post, can you help us understand
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- The attraction some people have
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- For that socialist, democratic candidate for mayor,
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- And how anyone can vote for someone
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- Who they know can't get done what he's promising?
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- You know, alan, even though i'm 3000 miles away, i'm
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- Actually right next door to the city in which
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- Some of the first
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- Democratic socialists were elected to city council.
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- And that happened right here in los angeles.
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- In our last two elections, we've seen democratic socialists
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- Elected to los angeles city council positions.
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- And i think what we've we're learning here is definitely
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- What we're seeing now in new york city
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- Is that you're seeing in many cases,
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- A younger, in most cases, whiter, wealthier,
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- Demographic playing a larger role in elections.
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- Many of them with high levels of college education.
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- And what we've seen,
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- And you and i have discussed on more than one occasion,
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- Is that increasingly in our high schools and colleges
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- And universities, even our so-called most elite
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- Colleges and universities, topics like socialism
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- And communism are taught as if they remain the future
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- Of the world, if not the united states.
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- And so you have people that have been inculcated
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- In these, kind of ideologies moving into positions as voters.
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- And obviously, mamdani there in new york city
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- Is very young, in his early 30s, and he certainly grew up,
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- And was educated under the same kinds of principles.
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- But all to say, that this very much
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- Is a revealing of a certain demographic,
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- One that is, by and large, highly educated,
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- But it certainly does speak to the kind of education,
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- That they've received.
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- Well, california is
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- Having a fight of its own with ice on deportations,
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- But we just learned that another of the federal judges
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- Has ruled
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- That the salvadoran man, who briefly lived in maryland
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- And is facing all sorts of serious charges,
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- Should be released from jail.
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- And if ice plans on deporting him,
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- He's supposed to get a three day notice.
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- So this judge apparently thinks that
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- I shouldn't be allowed to deport a known ms13 gang member.
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- Is there any legitimate legal reason for doing this?
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- You know, it doesn't seem so to me.
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- And again, even if this so-called retainer is issued, i.
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- It will be hard for me to believe.
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- Just given all
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- The evidence that we've seen in that particular case,
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- That he will remain in the country.
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- I can certainly speak to what's happening here
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- In los angeles, in southern california,
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- Where the ice presence has been significant.
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- One of the things that's been revealed,
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- And i don't think it's a,
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- Largely reported
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- Story, is in the recent raids on,
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- The marijuana farms, of all places,
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- Just about 45 minutes north of where i'm
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- Sitting right now in camarillo, california.
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- What was revealed
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- There is that there was a, a number of people that were,
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- Found to be in the country illegally, but were underage.
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- And one of the stories that i think
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- Many are beginning to understand,
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- And we've certainly seen this and what we saw
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- In the illegal immigration that was
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- Allowed into the country under the,
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- The biden administration, was that
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- You had a lot of undocumented minors coming into the country.
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- And while some would say that this is a caring program
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- To be kind of more of that open borders approach,
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- What we saw revealed in camera were youth,
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- That were essentially forced into child labor.
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- And that is a, an ugly part
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- Of illegal immigration is that so many people,
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- Especially young people younger than 18, younger than 15,
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- Are being pressed into very difficult
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- Labor situations and being taken advantage
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- Of both in pay and in work environment.
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- And again, they are without protections.
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- And so thinking more broadly about the costs that we have,
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- Essentially,
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- Taken on because of the scope and scale
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- Of the illegal immigration that the american government
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- Has allowed in the four years of the biden administration.
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- We're still learning the full impact from
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- A humanitarian perspective here that, that we've allowed and
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- And certainly the trump administration
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- Is responding to that on a variety of fronts.
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- Well, pete, i've got one more question.
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- We talked earlier this year about the fear
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- Some people had about president trump's tariff plans.
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- But over time,
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- It appears that
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- Most people have now had time to understand
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- What the tariffs intend to accomplish.
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- Is there any way to know if the economic issues
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- Will still be front and center when the midterm elections
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- Heat up next year, and that the tariffs will help?
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- Well, you make a very good point, alan.
- 00:15:32.622 --> 00:15:35.425
- So much of the doom saying that we heard, even earlier
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- This year about the impact of these tariffs on
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- The american economy has proven, unfounded.
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- And it seems with each passing day,
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- There's a new deal being made with one of our,
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- Trading partners.
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- That being said, that issue around tariffs
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- And also the impacts of the big beautiful bill,
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- I know the trump administration is very much
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- Counting on positive economic impact
- 00:16:04.254 --> 00:16:07.991
- Coming from both of those, both the legislation
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- As well as the tariffs on the american economy come,
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- The elections of next year, which are extremely important
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- For the administration, just given the closeness of,
- 00:16:19.569 --> 00:16:24.274
- Republican representation in both the house and senate.
- 00:16:24.274 --> 00:16:28.645
- They really do believe they needed
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- To clear the decks early on with these tariff policies.
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- And the big beautiful bill, but they are certainly counting
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- On the downstream.
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- And by that, i mean, in the next 6 to 12 months, very positive,
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- Economic implications or results from those two measures.
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- Well, pete peterson, it is always a pleasure
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- To have you on,
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- Especially with the clear vision
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- That you have being 3000 miles away from washington.
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- We'll see you again soon.
- 00:16:56.506 --> 00:16:58.775
- Looking forward to it. thanks.
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- In a moment there is hope, and i'll tell you why.
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- And later, your feedback and questions
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- And my best attempt at answering them.
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- Stay with us.
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- Stay with us.
- 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:20.132
- I believe the only way to fully understand
- 00:17:20.999 --> 00:17:23.201
- What's happening is to have some spiritual awareness.
- 00:17:23.201 --> 00:17:26.671
- We have to think in spiritual terms.
- 00:17:26.671 --> 00:17:29.274
- Why the intense fervor to discredit
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- And undermine donald trump over the last decade?
- 00:17:31.510 --> 00:17:34.746
- Well, perhaps
- 00:17:35.113 --> 00:17:35.714
- If we unpack some of
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- The amazing expressions
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- Of courage
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- That have been accomplished in recent months
- 00:17:38.817 --> 00:17:40.452
- Under our current administration,
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- We can better understand why the level of resistance
- 00:17:42.187 --> 00:17:45.023
- Leading up to it.
- 00:17:45.023 --> 00:17:46.391
- I've been calling these victories god events.
- 00:17:46.391 --> 00:17:49.528
- I think when the president of the united states
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- Says that marriage is between a man and a woman,
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- That's a god event.
- 00:17:54.099 --> 00:17:55.500
- When the
- 00:17:55.500 --> 00:17:56.635
- President of the united states said that there are only
- 00:17:56.635 --> 00:17:57.836
- Two biological sexes, i'm going to call that a god event.
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- He ended the foolishness and the nonsense
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- About transgenderism and men competing with women
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- In athletics and robbing from our young girls.
- 00:18:06.678 --> 00:18:10.549
- It took the president of the united states to say that.
- 00:18:10.549 --> 00:18:14.152
- But my question to all of us is, where were the pulpits
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- And where were the good people sitting in the pews?
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- Why weren't we demanding that kind of truth
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- In the communities where we live?
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- You see, the consistent
- 00:18:25.330 --> 00:18:26.398
- Message of scripture is that god expects his people
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- To speak the truth and to live the truth,
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- Even when it's not popular in our culture.
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- I promise you, if we'll do that,
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- There will be far more reasons for hope than despair.
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- We'll be right back with your emails.
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- We'll be right back with your emails.
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- Thank you for spending a few minutes with us this evening.
- 00:18:55.628 --> 00:18:58.397
- Just a reminder, if you ever miss an episode,
- 00:18:58.397 --> 00:19:00.633
- You can go to aj now.com.
- 00:19:00.633 --> 00:19:02.602
- There's a full archive there.
- 00:19:02.602 --> 00:19:03.936
- You can watch them at your leisure.
- 00:19:03.936 --> 00:19:05.938
- Makes them easy to share with a friend.
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- Your emails are always a highlight.
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- Al email.
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- Dear pastor allen, as we are praying
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- For god's spirit to move freely and powerfully in israel.
- 00:19:12.812 --> 00:19:16.015
- Could you please give us an update
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- On your tennessee neighbor and former tbn partner,
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- Pastor, governor, ambassador mike huckabee?
- 00:19:21.187 --> 00:19:24.624
- He needs more titles.
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- May god bless him and his family with safety
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- And effective effort in the holy land.
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- Thank you
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- Especially for your daily reminder
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- That we do have more reasons for hope than ever before.
- 00:19:32.498 --> 00:19:35.835
- Well, i am grateful to report that we are in touch
- 00:19:35.835 --> 00:19:39.005
- And the ambassador is doing very well.
- 00:19:39.005 --> 00:19:42.141
- Just this week
- 00:19:42.141 --> 00:19:42.908
- He stood up on
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- Behalf of christians that are serving in some roles
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- In israel and the visa challenges they face.
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- He's doing good work. god's work.
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- When you're praying for the peace of jerusalem,
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- Remember to pray for the ambassador and his family.
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- Michael s from oklahoma emailed
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- I really enjoyed the episode with doctor ben carson,
- 00:19:58.190 --> 00:20:01.027
- The person who knows
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- What it takes to be successful in life and business.
- 00:20:02.128 --> 00:20:04.930
- Now, every time i have an opportunity
- 00:20:05.731 --> 00:20:06.966
- To listen to doctor carson, he challenges me
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- To want to do the right thing with my whole heart.
- 00:20:09.368 --> 00:20:11.570
- He's a courageous man,
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- And he's a strength and a blessing in our nation.
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- I want to thank you
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- For spending your time with us this evening.
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- I know you have choices.
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- Thank you for choosing a few minutes with us.
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- I'm alan jackson, and i pray you have a wonderful evening.
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