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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Iran Deal | Allen Jackson Now | June 18, 2026
- Good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- Much has changed this week.
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- The united states and iran
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- Have signed an agreement to end hostilities.
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- The strait of hormuz is expected to reopen negotiations
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- Regarding iran's nuclear program.
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- Well, they're set to continue over the next 60 days.
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- President trump has also announced
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- That the us space force
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- Will monitor iran's nuclear facilities to determine
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- Whether tehran attempts to recover nuclear materials.
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- In other words, while the fighting may be paused,
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- The united states appears
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- Determined to keep a close watch on what happens next.
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- For most americans,
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- Foreign policy becomes personal when it affects daily life.
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- They may not follow every development in tehran,
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- But they notice what happens at the gas pump
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- And they notice the price of groceries.
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- If this agreement leads to lower energy costs and greater
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- Economic stability,
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- Voters could begin feeling those effects
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- Well before they cast their ballots.
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- That is why the conversation is already shifting
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- From the battlefield to the ballot box.
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- President trump's decision to confront iran militarily
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- And then to negotiate an agreement.
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- Well, they will eventually be judged by history.
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- But republicans,
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- They don't have the luxury of waiting for history.
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- They're trying to defend
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- Their congressional majorities in an election year.
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- Well, voters
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- See this as a demonstration
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- Of strength that prevented a wider war.
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- Well, economic conditions improve enough for americans to
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- Notice before the midterms.
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- Iran's regime has
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- Exported terror and instability in the region for decades.
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- A weakened iranian regime can mean hope for people
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- Who've lived under tyranny.
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- I'm grateful for the bold and courageous approach
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- Taken by this administration back in march.
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- They confronted the evil of the islamic regime,
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- Confronting the iranian regime was not the safest
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- Political option.
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- There are moments when leaders have to choose
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- Between prioritizing
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- The next election and protecting the next generation.
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- And now there are new possibilities.
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- Opening in a region of the world
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- That seemed impenetrable for decades.
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- It's remarkable the changes that are swirling
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- Around us these days.
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- Yet the reality of change is that it is never embraced
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- By everyone.
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- We recently had colonel kevin boren on as a guest.
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- He's the chief of the covid reinstatement and reconciliation
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- Task force.
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- It was established by the secretary of war, pete hegseth.
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- The task force was created to help serve
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- Service members who were unjustly discharged
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- For refusing the covid 19 vaccine mandate,
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- To help them return back into the military.
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- Well, that's an honorable initiative
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- Established by the current administration.
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- But one of the challenges
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- The task force faces is the bureaucratic obstacles
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- Put up by people downstream, people who refuse
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- To follow the directive.
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- We're seeing the same thing play out
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- With other administration directives
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- Centered around removing lgbtq or d-i mandated requirements.
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- This is all because the bureaucratic machine
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- Doesn't agree with the worldview that's being expressed
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- And the directions they've been given.
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- They're aligning themselves with a different worldview.
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- That's not a political discussion.
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- That's a spiritual discussion.
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- We see the same thing play out by liberal mayors and governors
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- Around the nation.
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- When it comes to illegal immigration enforcement
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- And their utter disdain for our ice officers.
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- In essence, they're saying that we know what the law is,
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- But we don't agree with the worldview.
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- That's not a political issue.
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- That's, again, a spiritual issue.
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- We are seeing that even play out in what is supposed
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- To be america's pastime,
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- What's supposed to be a unifying cultural force?
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- Baseball.
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- The controversy began
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- After three pitchers from major league baseball's
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- San francisco giants wrote bible verses
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- On their rainbow themed pride nightcaps.
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- Which major league baseball forces
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- Every player to wear in june for the so-called pride month?
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- The pitchers wrote genesis 912 216.
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- It's a bible passage that states that
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- God established the rainbow as a perpetual token
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- Of the covenant, made with noah and every living creature.
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- The verses are not belittling, demeaning, or critical.
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- One of the pitchers said he chose the verse
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- To point people to god's covenant,
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- God's mercy and faithfulness.
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- Well, major league baseball afterward warned the players
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- Not to deface uniforms by putting the verses on them.
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- They felt the bible verses could offend the lgbtq community.
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- Let's put this in a bit of context.
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- Professional teams spend millions of dollars
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- To trademark logos to trademark colors,
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- But then when june rolls around,
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- They suddenly switch their logos
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- To a rainbow to celebrate a lifestyle
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- That is in opposition to a biblical worldview.
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- And then they require all players to go along with it.
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- Well, to major league baseball, completely
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- Changing your logo in uniform with a pride flag is fun,
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- But writing a bible verse that's forbidden.
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- Folks, that's a spiritual issue.
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- We've got to understand this season in spiritual terms.
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- To move forward, we must decide to engage,
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- To use our voices and impact our culture
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- With our biblical worldview and biblical truth.
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- Marriage is not a political issue.
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- It's a biblical issue.
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- What our children have in their libraries.
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- It's not a political issue either.
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- It's a biblical issue.
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- If we will lead with our faith and let our biblical worldview
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- And biblically informed values be expressed consistently,
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- Then we will see more people seeking office
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- Who will represent those views,
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- And we will see better outcomes.
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- Let's spend our time
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- And energy being advocates for jesus and his kingdom, one heart
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- At a time, one home at a time, and one community at a time.
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- Well, in just a
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- Moment, we're going to bring on a veteran of national politics.
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- He's the head of real clear politics, tom bevan.
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- I'll be right back.
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- I'll be right back.
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- Well, tonight we're joined
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- By the president of real clear politics, tom bevan.
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- Welcome to the show, tom.
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- Alan, great to be with you.
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- Yesterday, the white house released the details
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- Of the memo of understanding between the u.s.
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- And iran.
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- Officials are saying
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- That the only major benefit iran is receiving in
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- Is a final agreement for these oil export waivers.
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- What's your take on the agreement?
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- Well, listen, the administration is trying
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- To put the best face on this that they can.
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- As the president has said, it's, you know,
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- This is creating space for negotiations
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- That are going to be ongoing for the next 60 days.
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- However, there are plenty of critics,
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- Certainly on the left, who, you know,
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- Democrats are saying this is total capitulation.
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- But even some folks on
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- The right are not real happy with with the outlines.
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- This 14 points.
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- They're saying that the us gave too many concessions to iran.
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- And, and we didn't get enough in return.
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- The regimes being allowed to stay in place,
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- The sanctions are being lifted straight.
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- They're going to be able to sell oil.
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- And so we'll see how this, works out.
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- But certainly,
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- It is
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- Not, i think, where the administration
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- That they're saying they're happy with the deal.
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- But, you know, we've been at this for for a few months now
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- And for this to be where we are,
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- I think is a disappointment for for a lot of folks.
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- I've heard some whispers or rumblings,
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- At least some kind of low conversation,
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- That maybe there's some broader arrangements
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- Across the middle east
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- That are going to stabilize the region,
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- That are a part of this broader deal.
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- Are you hearing any of that, or do you think it's credible?
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- I don't know, i've heard similar things.
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- And certainly one of the arguments that the
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- Administration is making is that all of the countries
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- In the middle east are seem to be in favor of this deal.
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- So again, we're going to have to see that.
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- What's going on here?
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- There's there's short term consequences,
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- Particularly domestically,
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- Politically for for donald trump and the republican party.
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- There's medium term consequences.
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- And there are long term consequences.
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- And i think this could be
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- One of those things that in the short term,
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- The republicans may pay a price for this in midterms.
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- But but if there is some sort of lasting peace,
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- If there is some sort of transformation
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- In the middle east that changes the status quo, that makes iran
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- Not have a nuclear weapon, but be not be sort of the, the,
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- You know,
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- Country that is funding terror proxies all over the world.
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- It could be, something that is beneficial to whoever
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- The next nominee is in 2028 and the republican party
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- Beyond that.
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- But right now, it's looking like
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- It may be a short term liability for republicans.
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- Well, president trump has continued to reassert
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- Kind of his primary objective through this whole conflict.
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- Listen to his comment.
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- It's a memorandum of understanding.
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- If it doesn't get done in 60 days, it's a right.
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- We go back to bombing.
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- You know, i don't want to do that because it's so good.
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- But, we might have to
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- Because we're never going to
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- Let them having this little weapon.
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- You know that phrase no nuclear weapon has repeated,
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- Been repeated so often.
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- Reminds me a bit of george h.
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- Bush saying no new taxes that he can't negotiate away.
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- It seems the nuclear weapons have to stay off the table.
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- I mean, that has been the sole reason,
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- Not the sole reason, but the one of the main reasons,
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- He said that that he decided
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- To take this action in the first place.
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- And so for any agreement to allow them to have
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- Any sort of nuclear capacity, enriched uranium is,
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- I think, going to be a problem for the administration.
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- As is you mentioned he said this over and over.
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- He he keeps saying, look, we'll
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- We'll go back to bombing if we have to.
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- He said that the other day.
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- He said it again yesterday.
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- But he said that a number of times.
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- And each time he sort of walked it back and said, no,
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- We're going to
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- You know, we've been asked to cancel these strikes
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- By people in the middle east, other leaders, etc..
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- So there's been the threat of bombing that's gone on.
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- But but no actual additional bombing, this far, thus far.
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- And so,
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- Again,
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- Donald trump is donald trump, and he could change his mind
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- At any moment.
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- But at least for now,
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- It seems like he's very reluctant to go back to
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- As they as they're calling it, kinetic activity.
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- And more bombing in, in the middle east right now.
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- Can you compare the jcpoa agreement,
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- Which obama reached with iran to this new agreement?
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- Just so the average american can understand?
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- Well, i mean, that's that's hard.
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- I said this earlier.
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- I do think, you know, the jcpoa is an agreement
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- That that barack obama negotiated.
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- And john kerry, when he was secretary of state
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- With with the iranian government that was, supposed
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- To curtail their nuclear ambitions in exchange for that.
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- We did a bunch of things.
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- We sent them
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- Very famously or infamously, you know, pallets full of cash.
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- Lifted sanctions on them in the like.
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- There are some similarities.
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- And i know the trump administration, they hate that.
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- But certainly if this memorandum
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- Of understanding was negotiated by barack obama or joe biden
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- Or any other democrat,
- 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:18.293
- I'm sure donald trump would be at the front of the line
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- To criticize it for not being a good deal.
- 00:11:20.996 --> 00:11:22.965
- And now he's trying to touted as being a great deal
- 00:11:22.965 --> 00:11:25.467
- Because there are a lot of similarities.
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- I think the main
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- Difference that the trump administration would say,
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- As we just heard the president say, is, look, this is not,
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- A locked in peace plan.
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- This is not a treaty.
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- This is simply a tool that they are using to create
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- Another sort of more space, 60 more days
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- For these intense negotiations that will involve,
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- The nuclear material.
- 00:11:48.657 --> 00:11:51.827
- You know, it's been a heated primary season
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- With several of trump's candidates
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- That he's endorsed have done pretty well.
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- What are the implications
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- For november, based on what we've been watching?
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- Well, i mean, if you look at the data on this,
- 00:12:03.005 --> 00:12:04.840
- It's pretty clear, about 75% of republicans are still,
- 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:09.878
- They still approve of trump taking military action in iran.
- 00:12:09.878 --> 00:12:13.448
- So the republican party sort of in general, is standing by him.
- 00:12:13.448 --> 00:12:18.654
- However, there's about 15% of republicans
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- Who disapprove of his action, and that 15% in a midterm
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- Election year where you need your base to turn out
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- Is not an insignificant number.
- 00:12:27.696 --> 00:12:29.765
- Everybody else, democrats are united against this.
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- Independents are very much against it.
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- About 75 to to 25.
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- And you can see that hanging over,
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- Everything else, particularly because now gas
- 00:12:40.709 --> 00:12:43.145
- Prices had started going down.
- 00:12:43.145 --> 00:12:44.346
- They were under $4 a gallon for the
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- First time in a while today.
- 00:12:45.814 --> 00:12:48.183
- Because that is
- 00:12:48.550 --> 00:12:50.452
- Everything about this election is the economy, affordability,
- 00:12:50.452 --> 00:12:53.155
- Inflation and, trump's approval rating on that.
- 00:12:53.155 --> 00:12:57.593
- His handling of those issues, in particular on inflation.
- 00:12:57.593 --> 00:13:00.629
- He's at 27%.
- 00:13:00.963 --> 00:13:03.632
- One poll has an under 20%.
- 00:13:03.632 --> 00:13:06.235
- And so his overall approval rating in our politics
- 00:13:06.235 --> 00:13:08.837
- Average is about 40.
- 00:13:08.837 --> 00:13:09.905
- So you can see that on the
- 00:13:09.905 --> 00:13:11.440
- Issue of inflation, he is he's well below his, his average,
- 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:15.410
- His overall approval rating and more than 50% of people,
- 00:13:15.410 --> 00:13:19.948
- Including by the way, that's across the board,
- 00:13:19.948 --> 00:13:21.717
- Republicans, independents and democrats all say
- 00:13:21.717 --> 00:13:24.286
- Inflation is the number one issue in this in this election.
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- And so,
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- That's part of why iran has
- 00:13:28.323 --> 00:13:30.058
- Has given him so much difficulties,
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- Because it's bled into concerns about the economy here
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- At home with prices of oil and gas.
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- So the inflation concerns will trump the other
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- Momentum in the economy.
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- As of
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- Right now, and usually i would say,
- 00:13:44.006 --> 00:13:46.708
- You know, when we get to about the end of june.
- 00:13:46.708 --> 00:13:50.279
- So coming up pretty soon in just a couple of weeks,
- 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:53.515
- You know, a lot of well,
- 00:13:54.049 --> 00:13:55.250
- These days,
- 00:13:55.250 --> 00:13:56.118
- Everyone's so partizan
- 00:13:56.118 --> 00:13:57.386
- That a lot of
- 00:13:57.386 --> 00:13:58.320
- People have already made up their minds,
- 00:13:58.320 --> 00:13:59.621
- What they're going to do and who they're going to vote for.
- 00:13:59.621 --> 00:14:01.823
- But there is a small percentage of the population
- 00:14:01.823 --> 00:14:04.893
- That's going to vote in november that is still persuadable.
- 00:14:04.893 --> 00:14:07.362
- They're still looking at things.
- 00:14:07.362 --> 00:14:09.164
- And so to the extent
- 00:14:09.164 --> 00:14:10.499
- That the economy improves at gas prices drop,
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- That inflation eases, that will benefit
- 00:14:13.835 --> 00:14:16.905
- Republicans, on the margins heading into november.
- 00:14:16.905 --> 00:14:19.942
- But right now it looks as if,
- 00:14:19.942 --> 00:14:21.977
- They're underwater on a lot of those,
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- On a lot of these issues
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- That people are saying they care about.
- 00:14:25.113 --> 00:14:26.415
- And that will be the decisive issue, in the midterm election
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- Time.
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- With a president of real clear politics, tom bevan.
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- Tom, you mentioned
- 00:15:00.516 --> 00:15:01.317
- In the earlier segment
- 00:15:01.317 --> 00:15:02.585
- That a large percentage of the electorate
- 00:15:02.585 --> 00:15:05.121
- Has already decided who they're going to vote for.
- 00:15:05.121 --> 00:15:07.757
- Is that true historically, or is that a new element
- 00:15:07.757 --> 00:15:11.394
- In our elections?
- 00:15:11.394 --> 00:15:14.430
- It is has gotten worse.
- 00:15:14.430 --> 00:15:17.266
- If you want to put it that way, over time, as we've
- 00:15:17.266 --> 00:15:19.068
- Gotten sort of more partizan, it used to be
- 00:15:19.068 --> 00:15:21.371
- There were a lot more swing voters.
- 00:15:21.371 --> 00:15:23.039
- There were a lot more voters that were willing
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- To split tickets and they would vote for,
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- During presidential years.
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- You know,
- 00:15:28.478 --> 00:15:29.712
- President, you know, for one party and senate or house races
- 00:15:29.712 --> 00:15:32.749
- For another that has largely gone away as well.
- 00:15:32.749 --> 00:15:35.518
- So, you know, it's
- 00:15:35.518 --> 00:15:37.720
- One of those things it's been around,
- 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:39.055
- But it's gotten it's been exacerbated, over the last few,
- 00:15:39.055 --> 00:15:43.226
- I would say few cycles.
- 00:15:43.226 --> 00:15:44.227
- And particularly, i think with donald trump,
- 00:15:44.227 --> 00:15:45.895
- You have you have democrats that are,
- 00:15:45.895 --> 00:15:48.331
- Unified almost entirely against him.
- 00:15:48.331 --> 00:15:51.000
- And as i said, very motivated to vote
- 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:53.036
- In a midterm election year.
- 00:15:53.036 --> 00:15:54.203
- And that's one of the problems for republicans.
- 00:15:54.203 --> 00:15:55.772
- They're they're suffering an enthusiasm gap.
- 00:15:55.772 --> 00:15:58.207
- And as i mentioned before,
- 00:15:58.207 --> 00:15:59.208
- Over the issue of iran in particular,
- 00:15:59.208 --> 00:16:01.577
- The base is even slightly divided.
- 00:16:01.577 --> 00:16:04.080
- In a year like this could be a real problem.
- 00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:06.949
- Well, vice president j.d.
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- Vance has been making the media rounds with his new book,
- 00:16:08.718 --> 00:16:11.687
- Even went on the view.
- 00:16:11.687 --> 00:16:13.056
- You know, this administration has been willing to sit down
- 00:16:13.056 --> 00:16:15.091
- With media outlets that are not always particularly friendly.
- 00:16:15.091 --> 00:16:19.262
- Do you think that's the voters will take notice of that?
- 00:16:19.262 --> 00:16:21.497
- Will that work in their favor when we get to november?
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- You know,
- 00:16:26.402 --> 00:16:27.470
- I do think it is good for for all politicians to,
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- You know, not just go take, and do interviews
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- Inside their bubble.
- 00:16:34.610 --> 00:16:35.678
- We saw a lot of that with kamala harris in 2024.
- 00:16:35.678 --> 00:16:38.247
- She really didn't,
- 00:16:38.247 --> 00:16:40.349
- Do many interviews at all, quite frankly.
- 00:16:40.349 --> 00:16:42.318
- And the ones that she did were, were oftentimes
- 00:16:42.318 --> 00:16:44.420
- Very sort of friendly and favorable.
- 00:16:44.420 --> 00:16:46.622
- So i think it's good for, for politicians to go,
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- And talk to as many people.
- 00:16:49.525 --> 00:16:50.927
- That's one of the things about trump,
- 00:16:50.927 --> 00:16:52.662
- You know, he's willing to stand in front of,
- 00:16:52.662 --> 00:16:54.797
- The press and take questions for, for hours.
- 00:16:54.797 --> 00:16:57.667
- And, you know, he'll give the press,
- 00:16:57.667 --> 00:17:00.303
- You know, he'll give them grief about being fake news
- 00:17:00.303 --> 00:17:03.473
- And not being good and all of that.
- 00:17:03.473 --> 00:17:05.041
- But nevertheless,
- 00:17:05.041 --> 00:17:06.109
- He is willing to stand there and take questions.
- 00:17:06.109 --> 00:17:07.643
- And so i don't know how much of a benefit it's going to be.
- 00:17:07.643 --> 00:17:10.513
- I did notice that j.d.
- 00:17:10.513 --> 00:17:11.681
- Vance made a point of saying
- 00:17:11.681 --> 00:17:13.549
- That joy be hard told him during the commercial break.
- 00:17:13.549 --> 00:17:16.519
- He made.
- 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:17.753
- He made sure that made it on air, that she said, you know,
- 00:17:17.753 --> 00:17:18.888
- You're not too bad for republicans. so,
- 00:17:18.888 --> 00:17:20.623
- I thought that was an interesting tactic by j.d..
- 00:17:21.591 --> 00:17:24.393
- I don't know how many how many democrats
- 00:17:24.393 --> 00:17:26.729
- Or progressives he's going to win over, but,
- 00:17:26.729 --> 00:17:29.799
- You know, it it never hurts.
- 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:31.501
- Because even if you want a
- 00:17:31.501 --> 00:17:32.335
- Couple of folks on the margins, that's
- 00:17:32.335 --> 00:17:33.836
- That's better than winning. none at all.
- 00:17:33.836 --> 00:17:36.372
- Well, elon musk recently became a trillionaire,
- 00:17:36.372 --> 00:17:39.575
- And a number of democrats immediately
- 00:17:39.575 --> 00:17:41.377
- Began to say we needed a wealth tax.
- 00:17:41.377 --> 00:17:43.646
- Are there any political implications
- 00:17:43.646 --> 00:17:45.314
- For elon being a trillionaire?
- 00:17:45.314 --> 00:17:48.618
- Well, i mean, that's a good question.
- 00:17:49.418 --> 00:17:51.254
- I mean, it certainly is an eye popping number.
- 00:17:51.254 --> 00:17:54.857
- But as you mentioned, i mean, the the the reaction
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- Among folks in the media and some folks on
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- The left was more outrage than appreciation.
- 00:18:01.497 --> 00:18:05.234
- You know, and i think there was
- 00:18:05.868 --> 00:18:07.670
- There is something about elon musk that has has,
- 00:18:07.670 --> 00:18:11.274
- You know,
- 00:18:11.574 --> 00:18:12.642
- I don't want to call it derangement syndrome, but
- 00:18:12.642 --> 00:18:13.976
- But they definitely politically do not like him, despite
- 00:18:13.976 --> 00:18:17.246
- The fact they used to like him just a few short years ago
- 00:18:17.246 --> 00:18:19.549
- Because he was building electric cars.
- 00:18:19.549 --> 00:18:21.684
- And it is one of those things where,
- 00:18:21.684 --> 00:18:24.253
- You know, they sort of discount his accomplishments.
- 00:18:24.253 --> 00:18:27.190
- I mean, that
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- If you look
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- At the list of things he's done
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- And the things that he's producing,
- 00:18:30.293 --> 00:18:32.328
- And this is not a guy
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- Who's just making money off of the financial markets,
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- He's actually producing rockets and cars and
- 00:18:35.598 --> 00:18:38.100
- Things of that nature.
- 00:18:38.100 --> 00:18:39.402
- And their first reaction, though, is,
- 00:18:40.236 --> 00:18:41.837
- Is to discount all that and say, well, you know, we need to
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- We need to tax him.
- 00:18:45.374 --> 00:18:46.976
- That's where that is one of the main differences
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- Between the parties.
- 00:18:49.779 --> 00:18:50.713
- It's been like that for a long, long time.
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- And it's only getting worse, especially as you have
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- This younger generation
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- Now that is looking does not look very critically,
- 00:18:56.419 --> 00:19:00.256
- In fact looks favorably on the idea of socialism.
- 00:19:00.256 --> 00:19:02.892
- And we see that with elections and of mamdani in new york and,
- 00:19:02.892 --> 00:19:07.063
- These dsa candidates all around the country
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- And members of the sort of, you know, progressive squad,
- 00:19:09.498 --> 00:19:13.369
- Getting into the house and even into the senate.
- 00:19:13.369 --> 00:19:16.305
- Well, one last quick question.
- 00:19:16.305 --> 00:19:17.607
- The us is currently hosting the world cup.
- 00:19:17.607 --> 00:19:20.276
- I've enjoyed seeing the responses of our visitors.
- 00:19:20.276 --> 00:19:23.479
- They are celebrating america and even aspects of america
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- That typically are derided in our media.
- 00:19:26.415 --> 00:19:28.951
- They're celebrating walmart and bucky's.
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- You think there's any chance that our guest
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- And their enthusiasm will inspire
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- A whole new wave of patriotism?
- 00:19:35.057 --> 00:19:37.093
- You know, we were just talking about that.
- 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:39.929
- It's been one of the one of the really, nice side effects,
- 00:19:39.929 --> 00:19:44.333
- Because we've been having this discussion about on america's
- 00:19:44.333 --> 00:19:47.970
- 250th anniversary of how many people
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- Are actually proud of this country.
- 00:19:50.239 --> 00:19:51.641
- You look at the numbers.
- 00:19:51.641 --> 00:19:52.508
- Republicans tend to be very proud.
- 00:19:52.508 --> 00:19:54.076
- Democrats, not so much.
- 00:19:54.076 --> 00:19:55.778
- There's also been some talk of folks on the left
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- Who've been writing articles saying,
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- You know,
- 00:20:00.049 --> 00:20:01.250
- We can't cheer for america right now for the american team
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- In the world cup because we're not feeling proud of america.
- 00:20:04.520 --> 00:20:07.590
- And yet you have the story
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- After story after story of all these folks
- 00:20:09.425 --> 00:20:10.960
- Are coming here from all over the world
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- And marveling at how how,
- 00:20:12.762 --> 00:20:16.699
- Welcoming america is, how great, how beautiful it is,
- 00:20:16.699 --> 00:20:21.137
- How great the food is, and all of these things.
- 00:20:21.137 --> 00:20:25.007
- You mentioned bucky's and costco.
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- So, yeah, i think that is,
- 00:20:27.410 --> 00:20:29.979
- Again, is it going to change any minds of folks on the left?
- 00:20:29.979 --> 00:20:32.148
- Not necessarily, but it is nice to see in the media has done,
- 00:20:32.148 --> 00:20:34.917
- I will say, a decent job of of reporting it.
- 00:20:34.917 --> 00:20:38.087
- And it's been it's been fun to watch.
- 00:20:38.888 --> 00:20:41.057
- Well, tom, i thank you for your time today.
- 00:20:41.057 --> 00:20:43.059
- We always appreciate the insights you bring.
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- It's always great to be with you, alan. thank you.
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- We'll be right back.
- 00:20:47.596 --> 00:20:53.999
- We'll be right back.
- 00:20:53.999 --> 00:20:58.352
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- We always enjoy your thoughts and opinions.
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- Helen, from maryland commented in maryland, our election
- 00:21:04.224 --> 00:21:08.095
- Day is june 23rd for the return of your mail-in ballot.
- 00:21:08.095 --> 00:21:12.332
- That is what they are saying by mail postmarked on
- 00:21:12.332 --> 00:21:15.769
- Or before june 23rd and received by your board of elections
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- By 10 a.m. on july 6th.
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- That is 13 days after the election.
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- Looks like maryland wants to follow california
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- And new jersey.
- 00:21:26.313 --> 00:21:27.581
- That would give them enough time to get their fraud ballots in
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- And then the voter loses.
- 00:21:30.417 --> 00:21:32.152
- This needs to be stopped now, for sure.
- 00:21:32.152 --> 00:21:35.355
- Well, helen, i agree there's many places
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- Where our election laws need some review.
- 00:21:37.190 --> 00:21:39.993
- We got to come back to notions of integrity and what's right,
- 00:21:39.993 --> 00:21:43.296
- And stop trying to manipulate the system to get our own way.
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- David from washington wrote
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- How very soon we as a country forget
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- Days, weeks, and months after nine over 11, it seemed
- 00:21:52.539 --> 00:21:55.208
- There were no democrats and republicans.
- 00:21:55.208 --> 00:21:57.577
- We were all americans.
- 00:21:57.577 --> 00:21:58.979
- United we stand, divided we fall.
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- Do you think congress will ever unite again?
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- Or will it take another tragedy like 9/11?
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- It's a great question, david.
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- Unfortunately, it frequently takes true
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- Desperation to drive real change.
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- Perhaps god will show us mercy, and he will ignite
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- A spirit of repentance and humility in our nation.
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- That would be a blessing.
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- Thank you for spending a few minutes with us.
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- God bless you and good night.
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