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Allen Jackson: Israel Fires at Tehran | Allen Jackson NOW

June 17, 2025 | 21:37

Allen Jackson: Israel Fires at Tehran | Allen Jackson NOW
James Carafano joins Allen Jackson to discuss the latest in the Israel-Iran conflict.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Israel Fires at Tehran | Allen Jackson NOW | June 17, 2025
  • Good evening.
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  • I'm alan jackson, and welcome to nashville.
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  • We begin tonight in the mideast, where israel now
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  • Has control of the skies over tehran and is ahead of schedule,
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  • According to the israeli
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  • Minister of strategic affairs, who we spoke with yesterday.
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  • By now, the world is much more aware
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  • Of how well-armed iran was,
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  • With thousands of ballistic missiles
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  • And a nuclear program on the verge of threatening
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  • Anyone who ayatollah khamenei didn't like.
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  • The supreme leader of iran has ruled iran since 1989
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  • 36 long years of strict authoritarian control,
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  • Systemic repression and a threat to all humankind.
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  • Just one nuclear bomb on top of an iranian ballistic
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  • Missile fired at tel aviv to jerusalem.
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  • It would have been game over, and iran's
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  • Next step was to launch a nuke at the united states.
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  • So there's no question khamenei had to be stopped.
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  • Well, joining us tonight is the senior counselor
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  • To the president of the heritage foundation, james carafano.
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  • Welcome back, sir.
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  • Oh, it's great to be with you.
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  • Thank you.
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  • This war is far from over. though.
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  • Israel has shut down much of the ballistic and nuclear threat.
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  • Today, israel announced that it had also taken out
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  • The newly appointed iranian military chief of staff as well.
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  • But there's a very deep nuclear site.
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  • The iranians have built the fordo nuclear facility.
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  • It's about 60 miles south of tehran, but only the u.s.
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  • Has the bunker busting bombs.
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  • It can go deep enough to knock it out.
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  • This fordo need to be taken out for the nuclear threat
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  • To be completely over.
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  • Well, it depends.
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  • We have one of two possible outcomes here.
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  • One is the regime collapses.
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  • If the regime collapses, and in all likelihood,
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  • The government that replaces it will cooperate
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  • With the international community
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  • In removing the nuclear weapons programs from the country.
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  • If they want to become a good citizen, get off of sanctions,
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  • Get money for reconstruction and all the rest.
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  • The other possibility is, is the regime survives
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  • And then it's just another chapter.
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  • They won't i, i don't think they're ever going
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  • To formally agree to eliminate their nuclear program.
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  • They may
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  • Just go quiet and things will just die down and we'll move on.
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  • And then the question is, is
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  • How far back can you push them
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  • To make the likelihood of them developing a nuclear weapon,
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  • More difficult
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  • And we push them back away, taking out things like that.
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  • Now everybody says, you know, bunker busters, but honestly,
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  • We're almost kind of getting to the point where
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  • You could put people on the ground
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  • And go into these sites because the military
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  • Can't be there to defend them, because they can't get killed.
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  • So they're going to run away.
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  • And you, you're not staying there.
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  • You're not occupying.
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  • So you could you could do an insertion, go
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  • And put people on the ground, mess stuff up in and leave too.
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  • So iran is a real, real problem
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  • In defending and securing these sites long term.
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  • Well, israel has been warning about iran's nuclear program
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  • For many years.
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  • Members of our congress have also made it clear
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  • That the world was running out of time
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  • And could no longer trust the ayatollah.
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  • Listen to senator tom cotton's comment.
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  • Iran is rapidly producing ballistic missiles, both meeting
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  • Range to target israel and short range to target our troops.
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  • And they add
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  • Substantially to those stockpiles every single night.
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  • And at a time when iran is both continuing its work,
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  • On its nuclear program and trying to rebuild its
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  • Offensive missile capacity, that the window to actually stop
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  • Iran from entering that zone of immunity
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  • Was rapidly closing.
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  • President trump cut short his time at the g7
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  • Summit in canada
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  • To return to the white house and his national security team.
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  • Do you think he's still open
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  • To negotiating some sort of deal with iran,
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  • Or is he preparing to take out that nuclear facility
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  • In florida?
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  • Yeah, i don't know the answer.
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  • I think it's just speculating because those are both,
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  • You know, possible outcomes.
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  • Look, the only deal that the president would accept is
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  • That iran would completely agree to remove all its,
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  • Nuclear capability, which includes not just
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  • The weapons production, but also, the ability to process
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  • The uranium to make the material to fuel the nuclear bomb.
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  • And very likely, the u.s.
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  • Would also insist on ending support for,
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  • Surrogates and and
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  • Maybe even curbing ballistic missile programs.
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  • So it would be a pretty hefty ask, but,
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  • You know,
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  • The thing is, is the president can't make a deal.
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  • Only the israelis can make a deal. and,
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  • And the question is, is, i think their their ask list
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  • Will be as long,
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  • If not longer than the president of united states.
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  • Or it may be to for the u.s.
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  • To either participate, assist or,
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  • You know, consider further strikes or look,
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  • The us could actually be saying,
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  • What do we do if the regime collapses?
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  • They don't may not know if there is going to collapse,
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  • But if it does, are there
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  • Things that we're going to have to do in the region?
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  • So that may also be something that brief the president about.
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  • I just i honestly don't know because it could be any one of
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  • Those could be reasonable things to be on the table.
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  • Well, it was back in 2016, the obama administration
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  • Released $1.7 billion to iran.
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  • All cash, by the way.
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  • And then another 50 to $100 billion in frozen
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  • Iranian assets was released as well.
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  • I assume
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  • That this was instrumental in iran's military build up,
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  • Including the thousands of missiles
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  • They're firing every day at israel.
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  • Is that assumption reasonable?
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  • So there are two.
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  • There are two kind of original syrians
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  • That got us where we are, and ironically,
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  • They're the fault of the united states.
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  • One was the decision to enter a nuclear deal
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  • Which actually allowed iran to reprocess.
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  • So the ability to reprocess and radium enriched uranium.
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  • The technology is the same if you are making uranium
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  • To fuel a nuclear reactor,
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  • Or if you're making uranium for a bomb,
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  • It's just the level to which you enrich the uranium.
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  • So once you cross that threshold of allowing them to legally
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  • Have that capability, you created the potential
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  • For a nuclear weapons program,
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  • Because we knew that the iranians already were doing
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  • All the other things building the ballistic missiles,
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  • Stealing the designs, having the scientists the other.
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  • The other original sin was
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  • We were going to entice the iranians
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  • To behave by flooding them with cash.
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  • Obama did this, and biden did this.
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  • And of course, they took that cash,
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  • And they used it to arm their surrogates to the teeth
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  • And to expand their missile and defense program.
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  • So this day came a lot faster
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  • Because of two people, barack obama and joe biden.
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  • There's no question.
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  • And the only thing i would disagree
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  • With senator cotton was he said, we were rapidly approaching.
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  • I think we actually passed that point two years ago.
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  • The iranians have had the capacity
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  • To become a declared nuclear power,
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  • Where all the components of a nuclear weapon,
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  • Whenever they wanted to.
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  • It was a political decision, not a tactical decision.
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  • And the the reason why we are where we are today
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  • Is they made one fatal flaw to really deter somebody.
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  • You need what's called the offense defense.
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  • It's not just the ability to punch above the nose,
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  • But the ability to to block the right.
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  • Iran put all their money in offense.
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  • They put all their money in these ballistic missiles.
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  • They put all their money in the surrogates. well.
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  • What happened?
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  • All the surrogates have been destroyed.
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  • So the people they could threaten
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  • With unleashing on israel if they attacked iran,
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  • They were all neutered. and
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  • I if you just look at the numbers,
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  • I think it's pretty clear that we've already exhausted that.
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  • The iranians
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  • Have probably exhausted
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  • About half their ballistic missile arsenal,
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  • Which means they've got less than 50% less,
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  • And they have a much diminished capacity to to use them.
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  • And the israelis
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  • Have total capability now, freedom to intercept them.
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  • So we are way past the point that their ballistic
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  • Missiles are a serious threat.
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  • So we have an iran that
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  • That is really virtually prostrate in front of israel
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  • With really no way to to really get back at them.
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  • They're in the worst situation possible.
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  • But again, we allowed them to get here because essentially
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  • Biden and obama gave them the get out of jail free card.
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  • 98% of the misery in the middle east
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  • That we've endured in the last decade
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  • Is because we unleash the iranians on that region.
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  • Well, james, we need to take
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  • A short break, but please stay for another segment.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We're back now with james carafano,
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  • The senior counsel to the president on
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  • International engagement issues at the heritage foundation.
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  • While the war is still on.
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  • I'm wondering if the iranian people
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  • Have enough strength
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  • Or organizational ability to overthrow the ayatollah.
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  • The israeli prime minister has spoken directly
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  • To the iranian people.
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  • Listen to his comments.
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  • The nation of iran and the nation of israel
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  • Have been true friends since the days of cyrus the great.
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  • And the time has come for you
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  • To unite around your flag and your historic legacy
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  • By standing up for your freedom
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  • From an evil and oppressive regime.
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  • It has never been weaker.
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  • This is your opportunity to stand up
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  • And let your voices be heard.
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  • Is there any way to know if
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  • It would be safe for the iranian people
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  • To take matters into their own hands?
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  • Well, there's kind of two questions there.
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  • One is,
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  • If the iranian people had a choice,
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  • They would throw these yahoos into the sea.
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  • I don't think anybody disputes that.
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  • I don't think the regime would argue with you over that.
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  • The question is, is how brittle is the regime?
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  • Because what keeps it together is the security infrastructure
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  • Inside the country that the people really fear.
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  • And we've seen this over and over again through history.
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  • We don't know how authorized, how brittle
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  • Authoritarian regimes are until they collapse.
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  • And usually they collapse suddenly.
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  • And the reason
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  • Even the people that run the regime,
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  • They don't know how brittle it is, because the whole idea
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  • Of authoritarianism is you keep such tight control over society
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  • That nobody really knows what's going on.
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  • So the two things to look for are one are
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  • There are people in the streets who are unafraid?
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  • And two, what are the soldiers doing?
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  • If they're putting their guns down and walking away, then
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  • It's game over.
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  • So, we've seen a lot of people leave the country.
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  • We've seen some demonstrations.
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  • We haven't seen a lot of,
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  • You know, repression from the military yet.
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  • We know they have a very fragile command structure,
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  • Which has been deeply hurt.
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  • So there there are some elements of that there.
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  • But whether we've reached a tipping point or not,
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  • I can't tell you.
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  • I don't think anybody can. reliably.
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  • The people that would love to.
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  • I don't think they can tell you, the people in charge.
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  • I don't think they can tell you
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  • Everybody's going to be surprised.
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  • With syria under new rule and other countries
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  • In the mideast talking about the desire for a greater peace.
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  • Do you think the trump administration
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  • Might step in once the war with iran settles down a bit
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  • And work on an expanded abraham accord?
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  • Well, i mean,
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  • That's already in the administration's plan.
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  • I think regardless of whether the regime is toppled
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  • Or just greatly weakened,
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  • The the president's strategy for the region,
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  • Which is the abraham accords, this idea
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  • Of getting the countries in the region to work together
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  • On mutual security and economic diplomatic cooperation,
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  • That's going to move forward.
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  • And i think it's going to accelerate
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  • After the conflict, regardless of how that conflict ends.
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  • Well, do you think that the shutting
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  • Down of the nuclear
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  • Threat in iran, you know, a threat
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  • That had the capability of affecting much of the world
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  • Will do anything to shut down
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  • The israel haters in our country?
  • 00:12:47.260 --> 00:12:51.130
  • No, because it's it's.
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  • Well, look, it's because it's not just fueled
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  • By the iranians, right?
  • 00:12:56.069 --> 00:12:57.503
  • It's fueled by the chinese.
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  • There could be russian money there.
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  • We know there's money from george soros.
  • 00:13:00.940 --> 00:13:03.076
  • We know there's lots of people fueling this
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  • Global hate of antisemitism and anti-zionism.
  • 00:13:06.746 --> 00:13:10.416
  • So it's not just the iranians.
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  • So i actually don't think that's going to stop.
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  • Unless unless we do the kinds of things donald trump
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  • Which which is take down the infrastructure and the funding
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  • And the leadership
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  • That is putting the foot soldiers on the street,
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  • Then it'll collapse.
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  • You've got a lot more experience than i do.
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  • What are you looking for next in this conflict?
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  • You know, i think, look,
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  • We all know the israelis
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  • Are going to have a field day blowing stuff up.
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  • And the question is, is what?
  • 00:13:41.180 --> 00:13:42.782
  • The question now is what happens to the regime?
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  • Does it settle down, retrench, you know, tighten up
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  • And then the war peters out?
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  • Or does it does it collapse?
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  • That's that's we're waiting for next.
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  • Every day the regime survives means it's a day.
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  • It's more likely that it will continue to survive. and.
  • 00:14:00.199 --> 00:14:02.902
  • Well, james carafano, thank you for your time today.
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  • We're all grateful for your wisdom.
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  • Thanks for having me on.
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  • It's a great, great show.
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  • Such as? you know, i'm a huge fan of what you're doing.
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  • Thank you. sir.
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  • Thank you.
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  • In a moment, i'll have some thoughts
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  • Of my own about how to best move forward.
  • 00:14:17.884 --> 00:14:27.003
  • Of my own about how to best move forward.
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  • Before the islamic revolution,
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  • Iran was a modern, thriving society.
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  • Its cities were vibrant.
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  • It was a hub of art education, open commerce.
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  • Western alliances, including with israel,
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  • Brought economic opportunity
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  • And technological advancement to the people.
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  • The islamic revolution shattered that reality.
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  • Evil leaders replaced liberty with repression.
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  • They silenced dissent
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  • And turned iran into a state sponsor of terror.
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  • Under the ayatollahs, iran became obsessed
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  • With israel's destruction,
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  • Repeatedly saying that
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  • As soon as they had the ability to do so,
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  • They would eliminate israel
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  • And that they would attack the united states.
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  • They called us the great satan and israel the little satan.
  • 00:15:12.638 --> 00:15:16.376
  • Well, because of the determination
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  • Of the mullahs of iran to destroy israel
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  • And the united states, the iranian people have suffered
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  • Greatly under a very harsh authoritarian government.
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  • I wonder what
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  • Would the people of iran in the 1970s
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  • Say today, knowing what iran has turned
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  • Into under this cruel and oppressive regime?
  • 00:15:33.426 --> 00:15:36.696
  • Do they just assume that the ayatollah
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  • Would be
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  • A good steward of the people's trust
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  • And have their best interests at heart?
  • 00:15:40.933 --> 00:15:43.069
  • Were they the proverbial frog in the kettle?
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  • I think in many ways, iran is a case study of what happens
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  • When good people stop being engaged.
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  • I'm concerned
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  • That here in america, we, as christ
  • 00:15:53.646 --> 00:15:55.348
  • Followers, have been guilty
  • 00:15:55.348 --> 00:15:56.849
  • Of taking a step back from the public square.
  • 00:15:56.849 --> 00:15:59.619
  • Too often, the people of faith have been willing to retreat
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  • To quiet, private
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  • Spiritual lives and disengage from public discourse.
  • 00:16:03.856 --> 00:16:07.660
  • It makes us far more vulnerable.
  • 00:16:07.660 --> 00:16:09.962
  • We will forfeit our freedom and liberty
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  • If we allow ourselves to be intimidated.
  • 00:16:11.831 --> 00:16:14.734
  • There are some very practical outcomes of a diminished church.
  • 00:16:14.734 --> 00:16:17.970
  • We've seen violent protests lately, anti-semitic protests
  • 00:16:17.970 --> 00:16:21.574
  • On our college campuses.
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  • Anti-semitic terror attacks in washington, d.c.
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  • And colorado.
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  • The legacy media is messaging regarding the middle east
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  • Seems to be consistently anti-israel.
  • 00:16:30.583 --> 00:16:33.653
  • They say israel needs to make room to make peace with people
  • 00:16:33.653 --> 00:16:36.756
  • Who subscribe religiously to a violent ideology.
  • 00:16:36.756 --> 00:16:40.660
  • But in this time of war and disinformation
  • 00:16:40.660 --> 00:16:42.495
  • Regarding israel, as israel is fighting for its survival,
  • 00:16:42.495 --> 00:16:45.998
  • We as christ followers cannot be silent.
  • 00:16:45.998 --> 00:16:49.335
  • Like esther, we have to speak up on behalf
  • 00:16:49.335 --> 00:16:51.471
  • Of the jewish people.
  • 00:16:51.471 --> 00:16:52.738
  • We share a heritage of faith.
  • 00:16:52.738 --> 00:16:54.874
  • If we'll do that, i promise there's more reasons for hope
  • 00:16:54.874 --> 00:16:58.077
  • Than despair.
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  • I'll be back with your emails in just a moment.
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  • Stay with us.
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  • Stay with us.
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  • I want to personally thank you
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  • For spending a few minutes with us
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  • This evening and just remind you,
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  • Your emails are always a highlight.
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  • Bob in tennessee
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  • Said after hearing about the many difficulties,
  • 00:17:32.113 --> 00:17:34.516
  • Mostly mental, the joe biden displayed,
  • 00:17:34.516 --> 00:17:36.551
  • I've come to the conclusion
  • 00:17:36.551 --> 00:17:37.752
  • That the biden administration's four years were a warning
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  • From the living and true god to this nation.
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  • If this nation fails to heed the warning,
  • 00:17:43.191 --> 00:17:45.026
  • Then based on how god handled israel many times
  • 00:17:45.026 --> 00:17:47.395
  • In the old testament, judgment appears to be next.
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  • Do you agree?
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  • Well, bob, i think good leaders are a blessing from the lord.
  • 00:17:52.567 --> 00:17:55.270
  • And i think bad leaders are an expression of god's judgment.
  • 00:17:55.270 --> 00:17:58.439
  • So i suspect
  • 00:17:58.439 --> 00:17:59.507
  • We've already seen some episodes of god's judgment.
  • 00:17:59.507 --> 00:18:02.577
  • I think we have a little window of grace and mercy
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  • If we will choose to honor the lord.
  • 00:18:05.380 --> 00:18:06.981
  • I think he will give us better leaders if we don't.
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  • I think the future could be pretty grim.
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  • Brian h
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  • And chickamauga, georgia says i love the book.
  • 00:18:13.888 --> 00:18:16.758
  • Angels, demons in you.
  • 00:18:16.758 --> 00:18:17.892
  • God's wisdom
  • 00:18:17.892 --> 00:18:18.626
  • And truth is truly being spoken
  • 00:18:18.626 --> 00:18:20.795
  • Boldly by your willingness and obedience,
  • 00:18:20.795 --> 00:18:22.964
  • A breath of fresh air and a stagnant world.
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  • God bless you and your ministry.
  • 00:18:25.033 --> 00:18:27.068
  • Well, brian, i hope it's god's word
  • 00:18:27.068 --> 00:18:28.970
  • That brings a breath of fresh air. and it does that.
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  • Thanks for the encouragement,
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  • Claudia from laguna woods, california.
  • 00:18:33.208 --> 00:18:35.376
  • To those judges
  • 00:18:35.376 --> 00:18:36.377
  • That are opposed to keeping our country safe
  • 00:18:36.377 --> 00:18:38.179
  • And trying to allow illegal immigrants into the u.s.
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  • Should be taken off the bench.
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  • Well, i agree, those leading us at every level of government
  • 00:18:44.385 --> 00:18:48.256
  • Should not encourage illegal activity.
  • 00:18:48.256 --> 00:18:51.859
  • That certainly should be true in the judiciary.
  • 00:18:51.859 --> 00:18:53.861
  • It should be true in our elected officials.
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  • Any activity that begins with the word illegal
  • 00:18:55.997 --> 00:18:58.700
  • Should not be encouraged.
  • 00:18:58.700 --> 00:19:00.168
  • It's not compassion to encourage illegal behavior.
  • 00:19:00.168 --> 00:19:04.906
  • Then deborah emailed.
  • 00:19:05.406 --> 00:19:06.674
  • It's been a while since i've watched your church program,
  • 00:19:06.674 --> 00:19:09.978
  • But today was the first time
  • 00:19:09.978 --> 00:19:11.412
  • That i've watched your news program.
  • 00:19:11.412 --> 00:19:13.781
  • I'm so glad that donald trump is back in office.
  • 00:19:13.781 --> 00:19:16.317
  • The united states has been in disarray,
  • 00:19:16.317 --> 00:19:18.620
  • And he's doing his very best, with the help of vice
  • 00:19:18.620 --> 00:19:20.989
  • President vance and his cabinet to restore order.
  • 00:19:20.989 --> 00:19:23.992
  • Well, deborah, i'm very much appreciative
  • 00:19:23.992 --> 00:19:25.460
  • For president trump and his merry band of reformers.
  • 00:19:25.460 --> 00:19:28.630
  • I believe they're doing their best to bring good work.
  • 00:19:28.630 --> 00:19:31.366
  • I'm a little concerned.
  • 00:19:31.366 --> 00:19:32.600
  • You've been skipping church.
  • 00:19:32.600 --> 00:19:34.369
  • We've been struggling with that
  • 00:19:34.369 --> 00:19:35.370
  • Since covid all over the nation.
  • 00:19:35.370 --> 00:19:37.038
  • Don't skip church.
  • 00:19:37.038 --> 00:19:38.740
  • This little thing i'm doing here is just a side hustle.
  • 00:19:38.740 --> 00:19:41.309
  • At the end of the day, it's about obedience to god
  • 00:19:41.309 --> 00:19:44.078
  • And his word
  • 00:19:44.078 --> 00:19:45.113
  • That will bring liberty and freedom to all,
  • 00:19:45.113 --> 00:19:47.548
  • Not governments, politicians or political parties.
  • 00:19:47.548 --> 00:19:50.551
  • It's time for god's people to recenter on the things
  • 00:19:50.551 --> 00:19:53.154
  • That are most important.
  • 00:19:53.154 --> 00:19:54.589
  • If we all do that.
  • 00:19:54.589 --> 00:19:55.590
  • I believe we have a hopeful future.
  • 00:19:55.590 --> 00:19:58.159
  • But again, thank you for sharing a few minutes with us today.
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  • I'm alan jackson and i pray you have a wonderful evening.
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