Allen Jackson: Israel-Iran Conflict | Allen Jackson Now

June 16, 2025 | 22:42

Ron Dermer joins Allen Jackson to discuss the latest on the Israel-Iran conflict.

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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Israel-Iran Conflict | Allen Jackson Now | June 16, 2025
  • Well.
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  • Good evening, i'm alan jackson.
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  • You may have heard me mentioned last week
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  • That we were planning to anchor the show from israel this week,
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  • But given events there and the fact that the airports
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  • Were closed.
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  • I'm in nashville,
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  • But we begin tonight with israel's minister
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  • Of strategic affairs and the former ambassador
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  • To the united states, ron dermer, joining us from israel.
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  • Welcome back to our program.
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  • Minister dermer.
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  • It's good to be back.
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  • And, and, pastor, if you can't come to
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  • Jerusalem, jerusalem is going to come to you.
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  • Well, thank you for that.
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  • You know,
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  • You're the right hand man to prime minister netanyahu.
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  • And we heard him yesterday, reports
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  • That the attacks on iran will not stop
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  • Until you're certain
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  • That the ayatollah is unable to build a nuclear weapon.
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  • Maybe we can start by telling us how the mission is going.
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  • The mission is going very well.
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  • In fact, we're ahead of schedule.
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  • As the prime minister said the night of, when we began
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  • This operation, we are trying to remove two,
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  • Existential threats to israel, two threats to our survival.
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  • The first, obviously, is nuclear weapons.
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  • And to make sure that we deny,
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  • Iran a military nuclear capability.
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  • And we've been targeting
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  • Several things, which i'll get to in a second.
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  • The second thing is, we also want to deal
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  • With the threat of ballistic missiles.
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  • These are the rockets that and missiles,
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  • Actually, that your your viewers are watching hit.
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  • Our cities bombard our cities.
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  • These are one ton missiles.
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  • It's like imagine
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  • A bus or two busses filled with explosives
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  • Flying through the air and hitting in a neighborhood.
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  • So right now, iran has a plan.
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  • They're making maybe 50 or 60 of these every month.
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  • They're trying to ramp up production
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  • To about 300 a month, which means 3500 a year,
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  • Which means in three years,
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  • They're going to have 10,000 of these things,
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  • And in six years they're going to have 20,000.
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  • Now, for a country the size of israel
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  • And we're the size of new jersey.
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  • People should know israel is very small,
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  • Especially relative to iran, not just relative
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  • To the united states, which is 500 times
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  • The size of israel,
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  • But iran is about 80 times the size of israel.
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  • It's about ten times our population, 80 times
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  • Territory. we are a very small country.
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  • When you bombard a country that size with missiles
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  • Like the likes of which you've seen
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  • On your television screens, that's an intolerable threat.
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  • So when we set out to do this operation,
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  • We said we got to deal with the nuclear threat
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  • And we got to deal with the ballistic missile threat.
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  • Both of those
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  • And what we've done on the nuclear side is we've
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  • Already taken out their main
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  • Nuclear enrichment facility, which is in natanz.
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  • We've also taken out a conversion facility,
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  • Which they convert
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  • Uranium to what they need to actually weaponize that uranium.
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  • Now that has been taken out.
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  • We also took out in the first minutes,
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  • Essentially the manhattan project
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  • For the iranian atomic bomb.
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  • This top scientist in iran met their end
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  • In the first minutes of this.
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  • And these are people
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  • That were dedicated and working in these laboratories
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  • To develop a bomb that the leaders of iran say there.
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  • And they declare every day
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  • That they openly committed to the destruction of israel.
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  • Israel has to be wiped off the face of the earth.
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  • The supreme
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  • Leader of iran was tweeting, you know, in english, in hebrew,
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  • In persian, tweeting about israel's destruction.
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  • They have a clock in the middle of tehran,
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  • Which is a countdown to israel's destruction.
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  • So when they're telling you they want to kill you,
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  • You don't give them the means to achieve that goal.
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  • So we took out natanz, took out the conversion facility, took
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  • Out of the scientists, were taken out
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  • Some other information that they would need
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  • To set them back years.
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  • And now we're systematically going and targeting other sites.
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  • There's r&d facilities,
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  • The centrifuge manufacturing facilities.
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  • We're dealing with that
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  • On the other side with the ballistic missiles.
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  • We're taking out a lot of those launchers.
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  • But more importantly, we're going to take out
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  • We've started
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  • Take out their ability to produce the factories
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  • Where they produce
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  • And manufacture these weapons, and then we're going to deal
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  • Them a very, very heavy blow.
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  • And i think this is critical not only for israel's security.
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  • It's critical
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  • For america's security because our fight is your fight.
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  • We're the little satan. america's the great satan.
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  • And so when we're fighting iran and their leaders lead millions
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  • In chants, it's death to israel, death to america.
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  • But we're the little satan right there.
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  • Think you're the great satan.
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  • So we're taking out america's enemies in the region.
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  • We did that in hezbollah.
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  • We did that in, in lebanon.
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  • We've done that in gaza, where we've crushed them.
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  • We still have the houthis that we're dealing with.
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  • And you pounded them pretty hard as well.
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  • But the the head of this octopus,
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  • This head of this octopus is in tehran.
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  • And they had these tentacles of terror,
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  • And we've taken out
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  • Those octopus arms and turned it into t-rex arms.
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  • And now the only thing they have is their ballistic missiles
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  • And their military nuclear capability.
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  • And now we're taking that away.
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  • And i think in the wake of this war,
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  • We will finally have a chance to turn the page
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  • And to move towards peace.
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  • And one thing i want your viewers to understand
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  • The iranian people, they are not an enemy,
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  • Neither of israel or of the united states.
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  • They're probably after the people of israel.
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  • The second most pro-american people in the middle east.
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  • They hate this regime.
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  • They've been suffering and subject being subjugated
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  • Under this repressive boot of the tyrants of tehran
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  • For nearly half the century.
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  • You remember three years ago the women of iran,
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  • They took off those head coverings
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  • And they went into the streets to protest.
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  • 2009 they tried to protest.
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  • Don't be surprised
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  • If in the wake of this, or maybe even during this,
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  • That you start seeing the sparks of rebellion
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  • Start happening in iran,
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  • Who really deserve and want their freedom.
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  • And i think when that happens, the middle east has changed,
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  • Maybe for generations to come,
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  • And we can get about what
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  • We tried to do, and we did successfully
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  • At the end of president trump's term,
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  • We the first term, we did the abraham accords
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  • And in israel, for the first time in 25
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  • Years, was making peace agreements with arab states.
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  • And we did it with the emirates,
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  • And we did with bahrain and then sudan and then morocco.
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  • We can continue on the path of peace.
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  • But first we have to win.
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  • President trump says peace through strength.
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  • First you need strength.
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  • If you have strength, then you will have peace.
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  • Well, israel has been very strategic
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  • About hitting iran's military assets
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  • As well as their leadership, as you mentioned,
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  • With their nuclear program,
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  • It's very clear that iran is doing the opposite.
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  • They're targeting israeli citizens, the elderly, children.
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  • Can you tell us a bit about the losses on your side
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  • And what they tell you about iran's tactics?
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  • Yeah, well, iran decided to just fire into civilian areas,
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  • And they probably want to see as many people killed
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  • As as as possible, and they'd be thrilled with that.
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  • We are doing everything as we do
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  • In all of our wars to keep the civilians out of harm's way.
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  • We are attacking, as you rightfully said,
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  • Military targets, and they're lobbing these flying.
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  • But, you know, busses
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  • Filled with tnt into residential neighborhoods.
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  • That's the terrorists that we're dealing with. and that's why
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  • We have to do everything to stop them every war.
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  • Pastor, unfortunately, has a cost,
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  • And israelis have paid a price for this war.
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  • We've already lost that.
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  • The last time i checked, it was 25.
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  • 25 israelis have been killed by these rockets that were,
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  • That were coming into israel.
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  • And it's a it's a it's a terrible loss.
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  • But we understand that if we don't act to remove
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  • This threat, the losses could be catastrophic.
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  • So i, i'm very impressed with how the people of israel
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  • Have responded over the last 3 or 4 days.
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  • You know, they're very disciplined.
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  • You know, israel, you know, that they have safe rooms.
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  • You know that there's sometimes
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  • Underground areas where they go.
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  • And if the israeli population, which is disciplined,
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  • Continues to be disciplined, continues to listen to the
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  • Our home front command, then we will have fewer casualties.
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  • And a lot of people will expect.
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  • And we're going to try to do finish our
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  • Objective with this war and then end it as soon as we can.
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  • But we can't end the war without winning the war.
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  • And that's why we're determined
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  • To finish the job that we started.
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  • And, you know, prime minister has shown
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  • Maybe once in a century leadership.
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  • You know, you had churchill in the last century.
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  • And then in this century, you have netanyahu,
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  • Who was willing to actually
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  • Take action before the danger fully materializes.
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  • Because if everybody waits until the threat
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  • To your survival materialize is it's too late,
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  • You have to take action before it's too late.
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  • And that's the toughest decision for a leader to make.
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  • That was the decision
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  • That the leaders before world war two did not take.
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  • They were actually so upset about world war one, not upset,
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  • But they came in a generation after world war one
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  • Where people felt that this horrific war
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  • And the terrible carnage of world war one, which claimed
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  • 16, 16, one, six, 16 million lives, was so bad
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  • They would do everything to avoid war at any cost.
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  • And for two decades you had leaders.
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  • All the evidence was there.
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  • You saw the nazi rise to power.
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  • They were saying what they were saying.
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  • You saw them building their war machine.
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  • And people ask, how did they not see?
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  • How did they not hear?
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  • The truth is, they didn't want to see,
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  • And they didn't want to hear, because they didn't want to make
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  • This decision that is very hard to make.
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  • But their failure to act in time
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  • Led to the worst disaster in human history.
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  • World war two were 60,000,006 0
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  • Million died, including 6 million jews
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  • Who were murdered in the holocaust.
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  • One third of the jewish people.
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  • So israel is very fortunate today
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  • To be led by prime minister netanyahu,
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  • Who has warned the world of a dangers of a nuclear iran.
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  • You've been following for a very long time.
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  • He has warned that world for probably for decades.
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  • I've been by his side for 25 years.
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  • And in the very first meeting that we had together,
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  • He told me,
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  • Help me prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons.
  • 00:10:03.995 --> 00:10:06.731
  • His eye was never off that ball was always there.
  • 00:10:06.731 --> 00:10:10.735
  • And now he's placed
  • 00:10:10.735 --> 00:10:12.070
  • Israel in a position after october 7th, that for after what
  • 00:10:12.070 --> 00:10:16.340
  • We did to hamas and to hezbollah and iran's other proxies.
  • 00:10:16.340 --> 00:10:20.211
  • Now, he put israel in a position where he could act.
  • 00:10:20.211 --> 00:10:23.781
  • One last thing, pastor, that i want to say is
  • 00:10:23.781 --> 00:10:26.551
  • I want to express on behalf of the government of israel,
  • 00:10:26.551 --> 00:10:29.787
  • I used to,
  • 00:10:29.787 --> 00:10:30.288
  • When i was ambassador,
  • 00:10:30.288 --> 00:10:31.456
  • Be able to say i speak on behalf of the people of israel,
  • 00:10:31.456 --> 00:10:34.358
  • But i think i do speak on behalf of the people of israel
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  • When i say this.
  • 00:10:37.762 --> 00:10:38.563
  • I want to thank president trump
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  • For his support for israel right now.
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  • He is there for israel, helping defend israel.
  • 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:46.037
  • Your egis
  • 00:10:46.037 --> 00:10:46.637
  • Ships are knocking down
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  • Some of those one ton missiles that are
  • 00:10:48.239 --> 00:10:50.641
  • That are being launched at our cities.
  • 00:10:50.641 --> 00:10:52.477
  • You have your sad intercept system and and the soldiers
  • 00:10:52.477 --> 00:10:56.247
  • That are working to prevent those incoming
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  • Missiles from reaching israel.
  • 00:10:58.950 --> 00:11:00.718
  • And you also have american pilots
  • 00:11:00.718 --> 00:11:02.520
  • Who are flying over the skies to knock down drones.
  • 00:11:02.520 --> 00:11:05.490
  • And and president trump has given us
  • 00:11:05.490 --> 00:11:08.326
  • The political support, the diplomatic support
  • 00:11:08.326 --> 00:11:11.062
  • And the backing that we need to prosecute this war.
  • 00:11:11.062 --> 00:11:14.632
  • And we are deeply grateful for that.
  • 00:11:14.632 --> 00:11:16.467
  • Now, he wanted to reach a diplomatic solution to that.
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  • And guess what, pastor?
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  • We would love to have a diplomatic solution
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  • Where they would dismantle their program.
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  • Something like
  • 00:11:24.842 --> 00:11:26.077
  • What happened with libya in 2003 when they gave up all of their
  • 00:11:26.077 --> 00:11:28.813
  • Their weapons of their nuclear program
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  • And weapons of mass destruction program.
  • 00:11:30.615 --> 00:11:32.550
  • But unfortunately, iran wasn't interested in that.
  • 00:11:32.550 --> 00:11:34.552
  • They were interested in
  • 00:11:34.552 --> 00:11:35.553
  • Just delay, delay, delay stirring this along.
  • 00:11:35.553 --> 00:11:38.556
  • And in the last few years, iran has built as well
  • 00:11:38.556 --> 00:11:43.027
  • And has enriched enough, highly enriched uranium for nine
  • 00:11:43.027 --> 00:11:46.731
  • Atomic bombs and enough enriched uranium for 70 atomic bombs.
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  • And in the last few months,
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  • I don't know if you're aware of this,
  • 00:11:52.670 --> 00:11:54.705
  • But our intelligence services and your intelligence services
  • 00:11:54.705 --> 00:11:57.942
  • Understood that iran is taking steps
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  • In its
  • 00:12:00.444 --> 00:12:01.145
  • Nuclear weaponization program
  • 00:12:01.145 --> 00:12:02.513
  • That it had not taken for 20 years.
  • 00:12:02.513 --> 00:12:04.882
  • So it was clear that we had to act.
  • 00:12:04.882 --> 00:12:06.951
  • The president said, you got 60 days
  • 00:12:06.951 --> 00:12:08.853
  • Basically to dismantle, to agree to dismantle your program.
  • 00:12:08.853 --> 00:12:12.056
  • Iran wasn't interested.
  • 00:12:12.056 --> 00:12:13.558
  • And then israel acted.
  • 00:12:13.558 --> 00:12:14.859
  • And we're very grateful for the support
  • 00:12:14.859 --> 00:12:16.894
  • That president trump and his entire
  • 00:12:16.894 --> 00:12:18.629
  • Administration has given us.
  • 00:12:18.629 --> 00:12:20.965
  • Well, once again, the world is indebted to the jewish people.
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  • We thank you for your sacrifices.
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  • Minister dermer, we need to take a short break.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • If you can, please stay for another segment.
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  • If you can, please stay for another segment.
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  • We're back now with one of the most important
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  • Figures in the israeli government.
  • 00:12:45.323 --> 00:12:47.091
  • The minister of strategic affairs, ron dermer.
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  • Long before this to me, were
  • 00:12:50.862 --> 00:12:52.463
  • Your assignment was in washington,
  • 00:12:52.463 --> 00:12:54.265
  • Where you've seen our presidents come and go.
  • 00:12:54.265 --> 00:12:57.034
  • You've also seen the growth of the anti-israel sentiment,
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  • Or at least the additional attention
  • 00:13:00.238 --> 00:13:01.839
  • That our media seems to be giving it.
  • 00:13:01.839 --> 00:13:03.741
  • So you know america quite well.
  • 00:13:03.741 --> 00:13:06.010
  • Do you think that things might change for the better
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  • When people here understand that you're fighting their fight,
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  • That iran wanted to wipe out
  • 00:13:11.515 --> 00:13:12.817
  • Not just israel, but the united states as well?
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  • And they were quite close to having the material
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  • To do that if you hadn't intervened.
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  • Well, look, whether or not
  • 00:13:20.992 --> 00:13:22.560
  • The american people will understand it,
  • 00:13:22.560 --> 00:13:24.462
  • I think depends on
  • 00:13:24.462 --> 00:13:25.596
  • On what they hear from leaders, from political leaders,
  • 00:13:25.596 --> 00:13:29.600
  • From influential figures in the media to make sure
  • 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:32.036
  • That they get all the facts and know the truth.
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  • I mean, iran is a regime
  • 00:13:33.938 --> 00:13:35.806
  • That has been at war with america since its inception.
  • 00:13:35.806 --> 00:13:38.809
  • It took over that american embassy in 1979,
  • 00:13:38.809 --> 00:13:41.779
  • And it held american hostages for 444 days.
  • 00:13:41.779 --> 00:13:45.416
  • It its proxy, hezbollah, took out
  • 00:13:46.183 --> 00:13:49.553
  • 240 marines, 241 marines in beirut.
  • 00:13:49.553 --> 00:13:53.391
  • In those barracks. it has bombed.
  • 00:13:53.391 --> 00:13:55.493
  • Its proxies have bombed u.s.
  • 00:13:55.493 --> 00:13:57.795
  • Embassies in africa.
  • 00:13:57.795 --> 00:13:59.697
  • They tried to, blow up a restaurant in in downtown
  • 00:13:59.697 --> 00:14:03.467
  • Washington, dc, and they tried to assassinate president trump.
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  • I mean, this regime hates america.
  • 00:14:07.838 --> 00:14:10.274
  • And i would say the greatest cost has been
  • 00:14:10.274 --> 00:14:12.810
  • In the thousands of people that were killed, remained
  • 00:14:12.810 --> 00:14:16.113
  • By iranian backed militias and their ids,
  • 00:14:16.113 --> 00:14:19.283
  • All those people at walter reed medical center who lost limbs,
  • 00:14:19.283 --> 00:14:23.087
  • The ones who were behind that.
  • 00:14:23.087 --> 00:14:25.356
  • It was iran.
  • 00:14:25.356 --> 00:14:26.557
  • And so i think when israel is fighting
  • 00:14:26.557 --> 00:14:28.426
  • Iran, we're fighting america's fight.
  • 00:14:28.426 --> 00:14:30.328
  • And when we defeat iran,
  • 00:14:30.328 --> 00:14:32.063
  • We are defeating america's worst enemy.
  • 00:14:32.063 --> 00:14:34.765
  • Now what's happening in different college campuses
  • 00:14:34.765 --> 00:14:37.735
  • When this anti-israel movement.
  • 00:14:37.735 --> 00:14:39.003
  • I gotta tell you something, pastor,
  • 00:14:39.003 --> 00:14:40.805
  • I think it's not an anti-israel movement.
  • 00:14:40.805 --> 00:14:42.974
  • It's an anti-american movement.
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  • About 99% of the people in those protests
  • 00:14:45.209 --> 00:14:48.279
  • Who hated israel, they hate america as well.
  • 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.549
  • And i think that's a problem in the united states,
  • 00:14:51.549 --> 00:14:54.251
  • And it's something that your leaders
  • 00:14:54.251 --> 00:14:55.453
  • Will have to deal with to not raise
  • 00:14:55.453 --> 00:14:57.755
  • A generation of people to hate their country.
  • 00:14:57.755 --> 00:15:00.324
  • I mean, i love america,
  • 00:15:00.324 --> 00:15:01.659
  • I was born and raised in the united states,
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  • And i'm deeply grateful
  • 00:15:03.627 --> 00:15:05.296
  • For the united states of america and and what it gave.
  • 00:15:05.296 --> 00:15:08.332
  • You know, my grandparents was probably
  • 00:15:08.332 --> 00:15:09.700
  • Your grandparents or great, great, great parents.
  • 00:15:09.700 --> 00:15:11.569
  • I don't know how many generations
  • 00:15:11.569 --> 00:15:12.703
  • You go back to be the land of the free,
  • 00:15:12.703 --> 00:15:14.338
  • The home of the brave,
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  • To open its arms to immigrants
  • 00:15:15.072 --> 00:15:16.907
  • That were coming into the country.
  • 00:15:16.907 --> 00:15:19.043
  • And it was. it's tremendous.
  • 00:15:19.043 --> 00:15:20.978
  • It's the greatest superpower in the history of the world.
  • 00:15:20.978 --> 00:15:23.114
  • And it's been a good power
  • 00:15:23.114 --> 00:15:24.382
  • And a decent power with all of its blemishes.
  • 00:15:24.382 --> 00:15:26.851
  • And every country does.
  • 00:15:26.851 --> 00:15:28.085
  • You have to have be
  • 00:15:28.085 --> 00:15:29.120
  • Totally ignorant of history to not understand
  • 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:31.655
  • What america has meant to the world.
  • 00:15:31.655 --> 00:15:33.124
  • And we, the jewish people,
  • 00:15:33.124 --> 00:15:34.625
  • Know what it was like when america wasn't
  • 00:15:34.625 --> 00:15:36.594
  • The preeminent power of the world.
  • 00:15:36.594 --> 00:15:38.062
  • That was the situation before world war two.
  • 00:15:38.062 --> 00:15:40.598
  • You saw what happened with the jews then.
  • 00:15:40.598 --> 00:15:42.266
  • But thanks to the birth of israel,
  • 00:15:42.266 --> 00:15:44.001
  • Thanks to the great alliance with the
  • 00:15:44.001 --> 00:15:45.870
  • United states of america, we're in a different world.
  • 00:15:45.870 --> 00:15:48.039
  • And what i would say is like israelis will deal with israel.
  • 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:51.909
  • We're going to take care of israel.
  • 00:15:51.909 --> 00:15:53.310
  • We've got a brave people.
  • 00:15:53.310 --> 00:15:55.780
  • We have soldiers who are willing to go into battle.
  • 00:15:55.780 --> 00:15:58.416
  • We have a people of tremendous resolve
  • 00:15:58.416 --> 00:16:01.152
  • And let's say, the forces of israeli exceptionalism.
  • 00:16:01.152 --> 00:16:04.155
  • They're on the march.
  • 00:16:04.155 --> 00:16:05.156
  • I think the important thing in america
  • 00:16:05.156 --> 00:16:07.691
  • Is to make sure the people
  • 00:16:07.691 --> 00:16:08.826
  • Who love america and understand what it's all about,
  • 00:16:08.826 --> 00:16:12.363
  • The forces of 1776, let's say that they be on the march.
  • 00:16:12.363 --> 00:16:16.267
  • And i think it's very important for the future of the world
  • 00:16:16.267 --> 00:16:19.336
  • That america believes in itself, and that it's proud of itself.
  • 00:16:19.336 --> 00:16:23.808
  • And when you see that on an american college campus,
  • 00:16:23.808 --> 00:16:26.277
  • Then you know your future is going to be bright.
  • 00:16:26.277 --> 00:16:28.045
  • So when we win
  • 00:16:28.045 --> 00:16:30.014
  • In the middle east,
  • 00:16:30.014 --> 00:16:31.282
  • We're winning
  • 00:16:31.282 --> 00:16:32.583
  • For the united states, there's no question,
  • 00:16:32.583 --> 00:16:34.385
  • Because we're taking out enemies.
  • 00:16:34.385 --> 00:16:35.653
  • But the very idea of america, which i think israel represents
  • 00:16:35.653 --> 00:16:38.456
  • In the middle east.
  • 00:16:38.456 --> 00:16:40.157
  • You are standing for freedom around the world,
  • 00:16:40.157 --> 00:16:43.094
  • And we are a free democracy, a robust and free democracy
  • 00:16:43.094 --> 00:16:47.932
  • In the heart of a region
  • 00:16:47.932 --> 00:16:48.933
  • Where you don't have a lot of free countries
  • 00:16:48.933 --> 00:16:50.835
  • Around us, and we are defending the same values.
  • 00:16:50.835 --> 00:16:53.170
  • We share the same interests.
  • 00:16:53.170 --> 00:16:55.005
  • The more americans know that, the better.
  • 00:16:55.005 --> 00:16:57.308
  • And i hope
  • 00:16:57.308 --> 00:16:58.509
  • That they will understand that they have no better ally
  • 00:16:58.509 --> 00:17:01.112
  • Than the state of israel in the world.
  • 00:17:01.112 --> 00:17:02.780
  • The problem you had in the middle east
  • 00:17:02.780 --> 00:17:04.615
  • When you spent $7 trillion or so in iraq and afghanistan, is
  • 00:17:04.615 --> 00:17:09.587
  • You didn't have more israelis in the middle east.
  • 00:17:09.587 --> 00:17:11.589
  • It's not american boots that are on the ground.
  • 00:17:11.589 --> 00:17:13.691
  • It's israeli boots.
  • 00:17:13.691 --> 00:17:14.692
  • There was an american leader 40 years ago,
  • 00:17:14.692 --> 00:17:17.928
  • Said israel is an unsinkable american aircraft carrier
  • 00:17:17.928 --> 00:17:20.965
  • In the heart of a region that is important
  • 00:17:20.965 --> 00:17:23.067
  • And critical for u.s. interests.
  • 00:17:23.067 --> 00:17:25.002
  • We are fighting your fight.
  • 00:17:25.002 --> 00:17:26.504
  • We are on the front lines,
  • 00:17:26.504 --> 00:17:28.606
  • And we share the same values,
  • 00:17:28.606 --> 00:17:30.174
  • The share, share the same interests.
  • 00:17:30.174 --> 00:17:32.076
  • And, pastor,
  • 00:17:32.076 --> 00:17:32.776
  • This is something that you know
  • 00:17:32.776 --> 00:17:33.777
  • Well, we also share the same destiny
  • 00:17:33.777 --> 00:17:36.714
  • Because israel and the united states are not just countries
  • 00:17:36.714 --> 00:17:39.550
  • We're causes.
  • 00:17:39.550 --> 00:17:40.784
  • And i think as long as the cause of america is strong,
  • 00:17:40.784 --> 00:17:44.021
  • America is going to have a brilliant future.
  • 00:17:44.021 --> 00:17:45.623
  • So that's what i will worry about.
  • 00:17:45.623 --> 00:17:46.924
  • We'll take care of ourselves. you take care of america.
  • 00:17:46.924 --> 00:17:49.894
  • Well, i'm most grateful not just for your leadership
  • 00:17:50.928 --> 00:17:53.197
  • In israel, but for your message to the american people.
  • 00:17:53.197 --> 00:17:56.300
  • I pray they'll receive it.
  • 00:17:56.300 --> 00:17:58.169
  • Mr. dermer, we have a vast audience.
  • 00:17:58.169 --> 00:18:00.271
  • I'd like to close out this interview with a prayer
  • 00:18:00.271 --> 00:18:02.573
  • For you and your family
  • 00:18:02.573 --> 00:18:03.908
  • And the people of israel, if you'll allow me.
  • 00:18:03.908 --> 00:18:06.610
  • Almighty god, i thank you for the nation of israel.
  • 00:18:06.610 --> 00:18:09.813
  • You and you alone have brought it into existence.
  • 00:18:09.813 --> 00:18:13.083
  • I thank you for your provision for them,
  • 00:18:13.083 --> 00:18:15.019
  • And i pray now they'll have a wisdom beyond themselves,
  • 00:18:15.019 --> 00:18:17.922
  • A supernatural courage, lord, as you have protected them
  • 00:18:17.922 --> 00:18:20.491
  • On so many occasions.
  • 00:18:20.491 --> 00:18:22.226
  • May you stand, watch over them
  • 00:18:22.226 --> 00:18:23.627
  • And bring them victory in the midst of this conflict.
  • 00:18:23.627 --> 00:18:26.230
  • May they know that almighty god has spared them
  • 00:18:26.230 --> 00:18:29.033
  • As diminished their enemies, and brought a new season
  • 00:18:29.033 --> 00:18:31.235
  • Of freedom to them, and may they know they're not alone.
  • 00:18:31.235 --> 00:18:34.004
  • That not only does the united states
  • 00:18:34.004 --> 00:18:35.639
  • Stand with them, but that almighty god
  • 00:18:35.639 --> 00:18:37.374
  • Watches over them.
  • 00:18:37.374 --> 00:18:38.175
  • We bless them,
  • 00:18:38.175 --> 00:18:39.243
  • And we pray for the iranian people,
  • 00:18:39.243 --> 00:18:40.678
  • That they will choose freedom
  • 00:18:40.678 --> 00:18:42.313
  • And be delivered from the tyranny
  • 00:18:42.313 --> 00:18:43.847
  • That is dominated them for generations.
  • 00:18:43.847 --> 00:18:46.183
  • In jesus name, amen.
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  • Those who bless
  • 00:18:49.620 --> 00:18:50.721
  • America pastor will be blessed and god bless israel.
  • 00:18:50.721 --> 00:18:54.124
  • God bless america and god bless all the people around the world
  • 00:18:54.124 --> 00:18:57.962
  • Who stand on the side of civilization against barbarism.
  • 00:18:57.962 --> 00:19:01.198
  • Israel is going to win this fight, and in winning here,
  • 00:19:01.198 --> 00:19:04.268
  • We're it's
  • 00:19:04.568 --> 00:19:05.569
  • Going to be a great victory not only for us,
  • 00:19:05.569 --> 00:19:06.971
  • But also for the united states of america.
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  • Thank you.
  • 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:09.340
  • Amen.
  • 00:19:09.340 --> 00:19:10.074
  • Well,
  • 00:19:10.074 --> 00:19:10.708
  • The united states is here
  • 00:19:10.708 --> 00:19:11.709
  • For you, sir, and we are extremely grateful
  • 00:19:11.709 --> 00:19:13.744
  • That you've manned the front lines
  • 00:19:13.744 --> 00:19:15.045
  • On this evil force
  • 00:19:15.045 --> 00:19:16.146
  • That's been working to diminish and destroy all of us.
  • 00:19:16.146 --> 00:19:19.383
  • May god bless you.
  • 00:19:19.383 --> 00:19:21.018
  • Thank you for spending time with us today.
  • 00:19:21.018 --> 00:19:22.753
  • We'll be right back.
  • 00:19:22.753 --> 00:19:30.006
  • We'll be right back.
  • 00:19:30.006 --> 00:19:34.732
  • War in the middle east.
  • 00:19:35.232 --> 00:19:37.001
  • It's not new.
  • 00:19:37.001 --> 00:19:37.901
  • Israel has been at war for over 600 days.
  • 00:19:37.901 --> 00:19:41.038
  • But the current battle, operation rising lion,
  • 00:19:41.038 --> 00:19:44.275
  • It's focused on removing iran's nuclear capabilities.
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  • Iran has been a global sponsor of terrorism for decades.
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  • Through their proxies like hezbollah, hamas, the houthis
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  • And others, they have sponsored terrorism
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  • Not only throughout the middle east, but around the world.
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  • They've issued threats to americans for decades.
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  • But until now, there had never been
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  • An american administration that was willing to let
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  • The iranian threat be direct, be directly addressed.
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  • Well, i believe freedom in iran could bring as much change
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  • To the middle east
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  • As the tearing down of the berlin wall brought to europe.
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  • Here's what you can do.
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  • In addition to praying for the peace of jerusalem,
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  • Add to that your prayers for the iranian people
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  • That a door of freedom will be opened for them.
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  • That the light of the gospel
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  • Of jesus may enter that nation in new ways.
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  • If we'll do that, i promise there's more reasons for hope
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  • Than despair.
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  • We'll be right back
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  • With a word before we go.
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  • With a word before we go.
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  • Just a reminder.
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  • If you miss a program, any program,
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  • You can go to aj now.com.
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  • There's an archive there so you can review the programs.
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  • Or you can share a link for a friend
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  • That you want to share a message with.
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  • Tonight's program will be a great opportunity for that.
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  • I'm alan jackson.
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  • Keep praying for the peace of jerusalem
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  • And have a wonderful evening.
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