Allen Jackson: January 13, 2025 | Allen Jackson Now

January 13, 2025 | S25:E113

Allen Jackson NOW is a lifeline for a struggling and anxious nation. A guiding hand for those who are not ready to give up, and for those who want to find a way past the negativity before things get worse. Americans still have hope, they are searching for the wisdom embedded in a Christian World View.

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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: January 13, 2025 | Allen Jackson Now | January 13, 2025
  • Good evening.
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  • I'm alan jackson in nashville.
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  • Some veteran soldiers may leave
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  • The military only to stay in the fight.
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  • The free burma rangers is an army of volunteers
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  • Who serve in the world's most dangerous places.
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  • They're not there to kill the enemy,
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  • But to save the innocent.
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  • Fbr goes where most humanitarian aid organizations will not.
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  • From war torn myanmar to the killing fields of mosul, iraq,
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  • And of course, burma.
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  • They fight to expose human rights abuses, war crimes,
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  • And to protect ethnic minorities.
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  • Dave eubank is here.
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  • The founder of the free burma rangers.
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  • He's a former green beret and a christian missionary.
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  • Dave, welcome to our show.
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  • Thank you. sir.
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  • It is an honor to have you in tennessee.
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  • We've talked to one another from around the world,
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  • But it's a treat to have you in nashville.
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  • Thanks for inviting me.
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  • I remember looking at that zoom via satellite connected.
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  • And you invited me. i thought that would be so cool.
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  • God and god arranged it, so thank you.
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  • We want to learn a little bit
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  • More about what you're doing. you know,
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  • Most americans probably couldn't find burma on a map.
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  • And the world
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  • Is full of dangerous, poor, war torn countries.
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  • So why burma?
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  • Well, burma is
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  • If you went halfway around the world, right through
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  • The middle of the world, you end up pretty much in burma.
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  • Burma is between india and thailand and below china.
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  • That's where it is.
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  • And why burma.
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  • I grew up as the missionary kid in thailand,
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  • Which is next door.
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  • My mom and dad are 95 and 92, still serving in jesus name.
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  • And i went to texas a&m university,
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  • Was in the military rangers and special forces.
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  • That and i felt led by the lord to get out.
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  • And when i was getting out and getting ready
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  • To go to seminary in fuller pasadena,
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  • A tribe in burma came out of burma, a tribal leader.
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  • This is burma is the longest
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  • Running civil war in the world, 74 years.
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  • And this is about 31 years ago now, though,
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  • This tribal leader came out and he was a christian,
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  • And he said, we need jesus, but we're a warrior, people.
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  • Do you have a warrior, son?
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  • And there was a picture with me
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  • With the green beret, which is special forces.
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  • They probably thought i was the big, normal kind.
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  • I'm the small kind.
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  • And send him and i get a phone call.
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  • I was asking my wife to marry me for the third time, and she's.
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  • No, no, no.
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  • I get a phone call.
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  • I pray. yes, dad. i'm coming.
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  • I turned to my wife.
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  • Not then my wife, and said, i love you so much,
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  • But i understand you don't want to hear me.
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  • I'm going within one week.
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  • She's like, i'm with you. wow.
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  • And our honeymoon was in burma.
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  • We have to go there extra legally
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  • Because the dictators control it.
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  • They don't let you go into that fighting area.
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  • So that was 1993.
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  • And the short answer is, because god called us
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  • Through these people, and the people called us,
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  • And god confirmed it in our spirit.
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  • And we've been there for 31 years.
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  • What a remarkable story.
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  • You know, over the years, military dictatorships
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  • In burma have murdered thousands of their own people
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  • And displaced many more.
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  • What's the current political situation like there right now?
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  • It's the worst fighting since world war two.
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  • The worst fighting that we've ever seen
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  • In burma in our 31 years.
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  • I've lost 65 of my team members killed.
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  • I was wounded two years ago there myself.
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  • Many of our team wounded, hundreds wounded.
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  • And the situation is worse because before the ethnic
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  • Minority groups fought the dictators
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  • And these ethnic minorities actually allied
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  • With the united states in world war two against the japanese.
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  • But we kind of left them behind.
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  • They've they never stopped struggling for their freedom.
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  • But what happened recently,
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  • Three years ago,
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  • The burman majority from which the country is named,
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  • The burman majority, said, we're sick of the dictators, too.
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  • They joined the ethnics.
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  • Well,
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  • That made a big opposition group,
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  • And it made the dictators realize they might lose power.
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  • So the dictators supported by china, russia,
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  • North korea, iran, among other countries, weapons,
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  • Ammunition, airplanes poured in
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  • Because burma has many natural resources.
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  • It's in a strategic location on the indian ocean.
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  • China and russia, both have their designs.
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  • And so all of these weapons came in
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  • And the dictators turned it on their own people.
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  • So we've endured.
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  • Every time i go, we had airstrikes against us.
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  • Russian migs, chinese k k fighters,
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  • Hind attack helicopters, artillery.
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  • So it's quite brutal. that's the bad news.
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  • Over 3 million displaced in the last three years alone.
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  • Millions more before.
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  • But the good news is two parts.
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  • There's a unity in burma between ethnics and bromance.
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  • There never was before.
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  • And more people are open to following
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  • Jesus than ever before because, they said, are old systems
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  • Didn't work. unbelief didn't work.
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  • We called out the who.
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  • But when we call that to jesus, he's with us.
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  • And one of my guys who is an atheist, he's burman,
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  • Half chinese, actually half ethnic, university
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  • Student engineering, really bright, believe in nothing.
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  • He started coming, joining our team.
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  • We trained him.
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  • You don't have to be a christian to join us.
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  • You can hear a lot about jesus,
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  • But all you do is do it for love.
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  • And he said, as a you called out to jesus, i call
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  • That to jesus in my heart. and he answered me.
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  • And i remember
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  • You told me, always pray
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  • Before everything on the last mission, there were people shot
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  • And wounded in front of me in an open field
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  • Before i ran to get them.
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  • I stopped and prayed
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  • And i looked down and there was a landmine.
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  • If i had not stopped and prayed, i would have stepped on it
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  • And been a casualty.
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  • I stopped, prayed, looked down, figured out where they were.
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  • I went around and help the people.
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  • So these very practical answers to prayer
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  • And this is what we see.
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  • Which is the best news in burma right now.
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  • Where do you find the volunteers to serve with you?
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  • Because this is not easy duty.
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  • This isn't like short term missions,
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  • That it's a vacation with a little jesus thrown in.
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  • Right.
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  • Well, our volunteers are mostly in burma, sir.
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  • So their lives are on the line. they come from the people.
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  • You have 150 relief teams, about a thousand rangers.
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  • But those are all ethnic asians.
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  • They're all from burma,
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  • Fighting for their lives and their freedom.
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  • And they want they join us to serve.
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  • Our job is not to fight the enemy. we're not pacifists.
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  • But that's not our job. our job is to help people.
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  • So most of the rangers are local, whether that's in burma.
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  • We also serve in syria, iraq, tajikistan, afghanistan.
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  • We have a small rotation into ukraine right now,
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  • But it's all locals.
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  • And then the foreign volunteers who come.
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  • They come from all walks of life.
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  • We always say, if you feel god
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  • Leading you, come and see if there's a fit.
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  • But we don't pay them.
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  • They have to find their own support
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  • And be led by god to come.
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  • We have all kinds.
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  • We have ex-military, we have artists, we have doctors.
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  • We have all kinds of people.
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  • That's remarkable.
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  • Your group operates in active war zone.
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  • You just listed several.
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  • They're constantly exposed to shelling,
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  • To ambushes, landmines, as you mentioned.
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  • Safety is a major concern.
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  • How dangerous do things really get?
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  • You said there have been dozens that have been shot.
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  • I mean, this is not a joke.
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  • No, it's not a joke.
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  • In fact, sir, it's.
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  • If i think about it, it's hard
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  • Not to cry because the team members that we trained.
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  • I'm the leader.
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  • I'm a leader.
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  • I'm involved in all the training.
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  • Those that came to the lord, i baptize them.
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  • I did many of their weddings.
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  • And to have them die in my hands.
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  • Sometimes in my one guy, we are in
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  • Burma shooting us, advancing this way.
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  • We're trying to get everybody out in the airplanes
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  • Come bombing us this way.
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  • And one of my really good guys close to my kids, because we,
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  • Our kids all grew up in this environment.
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  • He's dead right next to me and dragging his bodies.
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  • He's bleeding out.
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  • And then meeting his parents later.
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  • We got his body out.
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  • Those are pretty sad, you know?
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  • But i learned my first day in seminary,
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  • I learned a couple things.
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  • One was, you can live well with sorrow.
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  • You can't live well with shame.
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  • So jesus comes to take away our shame but our sorrow.
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  • Jesus wept sorrows about love and crying and remembering.
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  • As we share sorrow together.
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  • It is divided and we have sorrow, but it doesn't.
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  • It doesn't diminish you.
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  • It's just part of love and life.
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  • I was just reading
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  • A commentary on the psalms, and this commentator said,
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  • If you live long enough, everything that's precious to
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  • You will be lost.
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  • That's not a happy thought, but it's true,
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  • But only temporarily.
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  • Whatever is truly precious will see forever in heaven.
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  • So this is how we deal with it.
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  • You're right. it is dangerous.
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  • But i was telling a friend of mine and ex-navy seal ross.
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  • Tough guy next to me.
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  • We're pinned down by machine gun and mortar fire, and it's.
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  • There's just walking in us, and we're
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  • Behind the ethnic resistance to give a medical care.
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  • But it looks like it's about to be a slaughter.
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  • And i looked in his eyes and it probably looked like mine.
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  • Like, i don't want to be here, you know?
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  • And but we held our ground and we help people.
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  • The next day i said, i don't think you felt
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  • What you thought you feel, did you?
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  • Because you're not on the winning side.
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  • He goes, no, i said, because you and i
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  • Would face any challenge if we had a chance.
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  • Box mike tyson. yeah, i'll do it.
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  • I'll probably lose, but i'll do it.
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  • But what if you were told to go against in the ring
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  • Against a world champion fighter, and your hands
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  • Are tied together and the feet were tied together?
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  • He had a chain saw.
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  • You will not go in. that's not courage.
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  • That's foolishness.
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  • That's how you felt yesterday.
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  • Foolishness.
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  • But what if your kid was in that ring?
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  • You're going to go.
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  • All of us are going to go.
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  • My kid's in the ring. okay, who's in the ring?
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  • I'll go in crying and praying to jesus, my son, my daughter.
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  • I'm going to save you if i can. if not, i'll see you in heaven.
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  • And so what we tell our teams? i told my friend.
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  • I have to tell myself first.
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  • Jesus, am i supposed to be here?
  • 00:08:56.227 --> 00:08:57.795
  • I don't want to be led by comfort, fear or pride.
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  • I want to be led by love.
  • 00:09:00.498 --> 00:09:01.899
  • And then i need your love. because i'm scared.
  • 00:09:01.899 --> 00:09:04.168
  • And then he helps me look at these people.
  • 00:09:04.168 --> 00:09:06.170
  • That could be my kid.
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  • Okay.
  • 00:09:07.572 --> 00:09:08.606
  • I'm still scared, but i'm going to do it anyway.
  • 00:09:08.606 --> 00:09:10.675
  • And that's the only way we overcome our fears.
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  • That is so good. godly wisdom from a green beret.
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  • This is a good day. thank you sir.
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  • Let's take a short break for our sponsors.
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  • We'll be back in just a moment.
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  • We'll be back in just a moment.
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  • We're back with dave eubank.
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  • He's the founder of the free burma rangers.
  • 00:09:32.464 --> 00:09:35.868
  • Fbr is a faith based group.
  • 00:09:35.868 --> 00:09:38.170
  • But you don't have to be christian to join the ranks.
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  • Tell us a little bit more about your volunteers.
  • 00:09:40.439 --> 00:09:42.074
  • I'm amazed at this group of people that stands with you.
  • 00:09:42.074 --> 00:09:44.576
  • Well, sir, we started in 1993
  • 00:09:44.576 --> 00:09:47.346
  • And i remember going into the jungle,
  • 00:09:47.346 --> 00:09:48.981
  • Fighting, going on, people fleeing.
  • 00:09:48.981 --> 00:09:50.749
  • I had four backpacks of medicine, and i'm not a medic.
  • 00:09:50.749 --> 00:09:53.852
  • I have a little bit of skill and special forces skills.
  • 00:09:53.852 --> 00:09:56.288
  • The wrong word, a little bit of understanding and.
  • 00:09:56.288 --> 00:09:58.891
  • Okay, i'm gonna help somebody. i'm gonna help one person.
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  • They'll be glad. i'll be glad.
  • 00:10:00.926 --> 00:10:02.528
  • That's all i know.
  • 00:10:02.528 --> 00:10:03.962
  • And a guy steps out of the jungle.
  • 00:10:03.962 --> 00:10:06.165
  • Camouflage fatigues, big red earring.
  • 00:10:06.165 --> 00:10:08.500
  • But he's a real thing, like johnny depp.
  • 00:10:08.500 --> 00:10:10.369
  • Pirates of the caribbean. the real thing.
  • 00:10:10.369 --> 00:10:12.204
  • Chewing betel nut, m-16, hand grenade.
  • 00:10:12.204 --> 00:10:14.373
  • He goes in english, he goes. ilia is my name.
  • 00:10:14.373 --> 00:10:17.342
  • I'm a medic.
  • 00:10:17.342 --> 00:10:18.310
  • Can i help you? ha ha ha.
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  • Yeah, man. let's go.
  • 00:10:20.579 --> 00:10:22.481
  • I found out later.
  • 00:10:22.481 --> 00:10:23.682
  • He's a son of a pastor, but, like, the naughtiest guy ever.
  • 00:10:23.682 --> 00:10:26.318
  • And that's the first ranger.
  • 00:10:26.318 --> 00:10:27.786
  • And then the second guy who joined us was a murderer
  • 00:10:27.786 --> 00:10:30.723
  • And not a nice guy.
  • 00:10:30.723 --> 00:10:32.691
  • The third guy to join us was a spirit worshiper.
  • 00:10:32.691 --> 00:10:35.728
  • The fourth guy was an atheist.
  • 00:10:35.728 --> 00:10:37.730
  • I said,
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  • As long as you only
  • 00:10:38.230 --> 00:10:39.364
  • Go to the sound of the guns and help people in love.
  • 00:10:39.364 --> 00:10:41.533
  • I'm not paying you either. i'll feed you if i can.
  • 00:10:41.533 --> 00:10:44.269
  • Or you feed me.
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  • We're going to go.
  • 00:10:45.070 --> 00:10:45.804
  • We're going one by one.
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  • The naughty guy.
  • 00:10:48.607 --> 00:10:49.508
  • We gave his life to the lord.
  • 00:10:49.508 --> 00:10:51.243
  • The murderer stopped murdering and started studying
  • 00:10:51.243 --> 00:10:54.613
  • The bible and wanted to be in seminary.
  • 00:10:54.613 --> 00:10:56.448
  • He passed away before that, the atheist
  • 00:10:56.448 --> 00:10:59.618
  • Met jesus and is now our lead pastor.
  • 00:10:59.618 --> 00:11:02.921
  • The animist spirit worshiper
  • 00:11:02.921 --> 00:11:05.557
  • Had dreams of jesus coming to him till finally
  • 00:11:05.557 --> 00:11:08.260
  • He cut his spirit wings off, became a follower of jesus.
  • 00:11:08.260 --> 00:11:10.062
  • So that's how we started.
  • 00:11:10.062 --> 00:11:11.864
  • And we anybody can join us.
  • 00:11:11.864 --> 00:11:14.767
  • You just have to do this for love.
  • 00:11:14.767 --> 00:11:16.869
  • You can't run if people can't run away,
  • 00:11:16.869 --> 00:11:19.104
  • And you have to read and write in some language
  • 00:11:19.104 --> 00:11:20.739
  • For good medical care and for reporting.
  • 00:11:20.739 --> 00:11:23.408
  • We and so we have,
  • 00:11:23.408 --> 00:11:25.110
  • Maybe a third of the people who join us
  • 00:11:25.110 --> 00:11:26.945
  • Are atheists, agnostics, animist, buddhist, muslim,
  • 00:11:26.945 --> 00:11:30.048
  • Come on.
  • 00:11:30.048 --> 00:11:31.250
  • But we always are sharing about jesus because he saves us.
  • 00:11:31.250 --> 00:11:34.720
  • And in all our training we have spiritual training,
  • 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:38.290
  • Which is the gospel.
  • 00:11:38.290 --> 00:11:39.658
  • You don't have to be there. actually, you kind of do.
  • 00:11:39.658 --> 00:11:41.860
  • But nobody walks out on it.
  • 00:11:41.860 --> 00:11:43.762
  • Nobody. not a war zone. nobody.
  • 00:11:43.762 --> 00:11:46.031
  • When i was in in mosul with the iraqi army, who are muslim,
  • 00:11:46.031 --> 00:11:50.335
  • I prayed all the time.
  • 00:11:50.803 --> 00:11:51.970
  • And at one point god told me, get on your knees.
  • 00:11:51.970 --> 00:11:54.106
  • And i was like, oh no, christian nutcase, you know?
  • 00:11:54.106 --> 00:11:56.909
  • But i knew that voice. i got on my knees.
  • 00:11:56.909 --> 00:11:58.811
  • They looked at me and i prayed.
  • 00:11:58.811 --> 00:12:00.479
  • When i got up, the muslim commander
  • 00:12:00.479 --> 00:12:02.481
  • Said, you are afraid of god like we are.
  • 00:12:02.481 --> 00:12:04.383
  • We didn't know americans were christians. wow.
  • 00:12:04.383 --> 00:12:07.152
  • And then after being with him for a year,
  • 00:12:07.152 --> 00:12:09.421
  • When i left to go to burma and come back
  • 00:12:09.421 --> 00:12:11.123
  • For a couple of weeks, i had to graduate.
  • 00:12:11.123 --> 00:12:12.291
  • A new relief team came back into the battle.
  • 00:12:12.291 --> 00:12:14.092
  • They said we dared not move, that when you were gone,
  • 00:12:14.092 --> 00:12:16.795
  • Because when you prayed, we felt god's presence.
  • 00:12:16.795 --> 00:12:19.631
  • And the last thing
  • 00:12:19.631 --> 00:12:20.165
  • I'll say about
  • 00:12:20.165 --> 00:12:21.433
  • That is iraqi general at the end of the battle of mosul, said,
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  • Go back and tell the americans we love you.
  • 00:12:23.969 --> 00:12:26.104
  • Please love us, and thank you for showing us who jesus is.
  • 00:12:26.104 --> 00:12:31.443
  • So most people who stay with us become followers of jesus
  • 00:12:31.443 --> 00:12:35.614
  • And are baptized, and we go together about 99.9%.
  • 00:12:35.614 --> 00:12:39.751
  • If they stay with us past a year,
  • 00:12:39.751 --> 00:12:40.986
  • They're probably following jesus, but they don't have to.
  • 00:12:40.986 --> 00:12:43.755
  • Or nobody has to.
  • 00:12:44.189 --> 00:12:45.190
  • We all have to choose, right?
  • 00:12:45.190 --> 00:12:47.392
  • Right.
  • 00:12:47.392 --> 00:12:48.493
  • You lead them into places where bullets fly.
  • 00:12:48.493 --> 00:12:50.195
  • That's a pretty good motive. we're all scared.
  • 00:12:50.195 --> 00:12:52.764
  • No one's ever said don't pray.
  • 00:12:52.764 --> 00:12:54.600
  • Yeah,
  • 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:55.901
  • Well, you can't talk about burma very long
  • 00:12:55.901 --> 00:12:57.970
  • And not discuss the drug trade.
  • 00:12:57.970 --> 00:12:59.638
  • It's the world's leading producer of opium,
  • 00:12:59.638 --> 00:13:02.507
  • And it forms part of that infamous golden triangle.
  • 00:13:02.507 --> 00:13:05.577
  • So how does drug trafficking comprise your efforts?
  • 00:13:05.577 --> 00:13:08.947
  • How does it influence what you're doing?
  • 00:13:08.947 --> 00:13:10.482
  • Well, the very first tribe that invited us to go
  • 00:13:10.482 --> 00:13:13.886
  • Or the wa wa wa number one, producers of narcotics in burma,
  • 00:13:13.886 --> 00:13:18.891
  • There are their own ethnic little warlord army,
  • 00:13:18.891 --> 00:13:22.494
  • Mostly ignorant in the sense of this is all i know.
  • 00:13:22.494 --> 00:13:25.731
  • As one leader told me, you have your nuclear weapons.
  • 00:13:25.731 --> 00:13:29.034
  • That's what keeps your country safe.
  • 00:13:29.034 --> 00:13:30.269
  • We have drugs.
  • 00:13:30.269 --> 00:13:31.136
  • We sell it and buy weapons
  • 00:13:31.136 --> 00:13:32.638
  • Because you'll never help us fight the burma army.
  • 00:13:32.638 --> 00:13:34.506
  • And with these weapons,
  • 00:13:34.506 --> 00:13:35.374
  • We don't have to fight the burma army.
  • 00:13:35.374 --> 00:13:36.508
  • They got a little bit of a point,
  • 00:13:36.508 --> 00:13:38.176
  • But they know it's a dead end.
  • 00:13:38.176 --> 00:13:40.078
  • But it's a huge problem.
  • 00:13:40.078 --> 00:13:42.014
  • Opium, amphetamines.
  • 00:13:42.014 --> 00:13:43.982
  • Not only in burma, but also shawn state, the northern part.
  • 00:13:43.982 --> 00:13:47.252
  • And the dictators provide
  • 00:13:47.252 --> 00:13:48.820
  • A huge amount of their income from that.
  • 00:13:48.820 --> 00:13:50.722
  • So they're all in it together.
  • 00:13:50.722 --> 00:13:52.357
  • And our job,
  • 00:13:52.357 --> 00:13:53.525
  • We're not policemen, so we don't fight the drug trade.
  • 00:13:53.525 --> 00:13:56.461
  • But it impacts everything around us.
  • 00:13:56.461 --> 00:13:58.630
  • It arms the dictators with money to attack us,
  • 00:13:58.630 --> 00:14:02.634
  • And it destroys the lives of young people
  • 00:14:02.634 --> 00:14:04.937
  • And old people there.
  • 00:14:04.937 --> 00:14:06.204
  • And of course, when it's exported out,
  • 00:14:06.204 --> 00:14:07.906
  • It hurts people around.
  • 00:14:07.906 --> 00:14:09.274
  • So it's a big problem.
  • 00:14:09.274 --> 00:14:10.208
  • And i have a prayer request to you.
  • 00:14:10.208 --> 00:14:12.577
  • I was approached by a neighboring country,
  • 00:14:12.577 --> 00:14:15.747
  • Not the united states, a neighboring country.
  • 00:14:15.747 --> 00:14:17.115
  • There they said, can you help us with the drug war?
  • 00:14:17.115 --> 00:14:19.918
  • I was like, that's not our job, you know?
  • 00:14:19.918 --> 00:14:21.920
  • But i want to help. i don't know how to help.
  • 00:14:21.920 --> 00:14:24.523
  • So that's just really a prayer request
  • 00:14:24.523 --> 00:14:25.991
  • That god will give us wisdom, like you talked about earlier.
  • 00:14:25.991 --> 00:14:28.193
  • How do we help these neighboring countries
  • 00:14:28.193 --> 00:14:29.928
  • But in the way god wants us to about this problem?
  • 00:14:29.928 --> 00:14:32.998
  • I don't have an answer.
  • 00:14:32.998 --> 00:14:34.066
  • Right now, but we have a group that comes every day
  • 00:14:34.066 --> 00:14:35.534
  • To the church for two hours to pray.
  • 00:14:35.534 --> 00:14:37.636
  • Thank you.
  • 00:14:37.636 --> 00:14:38.637
  • We will put that in before them, i assure you.
  • 00:14:38.637 --> 00:14:40.806
  • Thanks.
  • 00:14:40.806 --> 00:14:41.640
  • Give us a little bit of an update on
  • 00:14:41.640 --> 00:14:43.108
  • What's happening in the ground in iraq and syria today.
  • 00:14:43.108 --> 00:14:45.877
  • We hear the news, but it's not a complete story, right?
  • 00:14:45.877 --> 00:14:48.647
  • So we were there when isis started, pretty much,
  • 00:14:48.647 --> 00:14:51.350
  • And we were invited there.
  • 00:14:51.350 --> 00:14:52.584
  • And we work with the kurds and then later
  • 00:14:52.584 --> 00:14:54.119
  • The iraqi army and iraq, and then later with the kurds
  • 00:14:54.119 --> 00:14:57.155
  • In northeast syria.
  • 00:14:57.155 --> 00:14:58.156
  • We still have an ongoing ministry.
  • 00:14:58.156 --> 00:14:59.758
  • We have a small little home and base there
  • 00:14:59.758 --> 00:15:02.728
  • With local believers,
  • 00:15:02.728 --> 00:15:04.696
  • Including one unbeliever, one muslim
  • 00:15:04.696 --> 00:15:06.665
  • Another, and the other two are christian on our team.
  • 00:15:06.665 --> 00:15:09.234
  • And that one of the christians was shot six times right
  • 00:15:09.234 --> 00:15:11.703
  • Next to me in the battle of mosul,
  • 00:15:11.703 --> 00:15:13.171
  • Became a follower of jesus. we baptize you in the tigris.
  • 00:15:13.171 --> 00:15:15.707
  • Anyway, we have a small team there and we.
  • 00:15:15.707 --> 00:15:18.110
  • Shot six times and survived.
  • 00:15:18.110 --> 00:15:20.212
  • And survived.
  • 00:15:20.212 --> 00:15:21.613
  • Okay,
  • 00:15:21.613 --> 00:15:22.180
  • You know,
  • 00:15:22.180 --> 00:15:23.181
  • Two guys next to me were shot six times who
  • 00:15:23.181 --> 00:15:25.083
  • Survived the battle of mosul.
  • 00:15:25.083 --> 00:15:26.685
  • One guy had just become a christian.
  • 00:15:26.685 --> 00:15:28.320
  • He was my driver in the iraqi army.
  • 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:30.122
  • He decided to follow jesus and baptize him yet.
  • 00:15:30.122 --> 00:15:32.524
  • But he's like, i want to be baptized.
  • 00:15:32.524 --> 00:15:33.725
  • He gets shot
  • 00:15:33.725 --> 00:15:34.860
  • Like one month later six times trying to save a family.
  • 00:15:34.860 --> 00:15:37.996
  • He lives.
  • 00:15:38.296 --> 00:15:39.398
  • When he goes to baghdad, he's flown to baghdad.
  • 00:15:39.398 --> 00:15:42.601
  • We're still in a battle.
  • 00:15:42.601 --> 00:15:43.735
  • His sister, who's a muslim,
  • 00:15:43.735 --> 00:15:45.537
  • Doesn't know anything about his conversion or anything.
  • 00:15:45.537 --> 00:15:47.606
  • She had a vision. she didn't know he was shot.
  • 00:15:47.606 --> 00:15:49.841
  • She had a vision.
  • 00:15:49.841 --> 00:15:50.842
  • She saw him in the hospital, cut it out dead.
  • 00:15:50.842 --> 00:15:53.945
  • And he said a man in white shining came and picked
  • 00:15:53.945 --> 00:15:57.416
  • My brother up and said, no, he belongs to me.
  • 00:15:57.416 --> 00:16:00.986
  • That's jesus.
  • 00:16:01.353 --> 00:16:02.187
  • And we figured this story out later.
  • 00:16:02.187 --> 00:16:04.322
  • She didn't even know he was shot.
  • 00:16:04.322 --> 00:16:05.957
  • So god speaks to people in different ways.
  • 00:16:05.957 --> 00:16:08.260
  • The second guy was shot next to me.
  • 00:16:08.260 --> 00:16:09.494
  • I was downtown mosul.
  • 00:16:09.494 --> 00:16:11.263
  • They were going house to house, street by street,
  • 00:16:11.263 --> 00:16:12.864
  • And we're providing medical and prayer support,
  • 00:16:12.864 --> 00:16:14.666
  • And we're in it.
  • 00:16:14.666 --> 00:16:15.901
  • And isis comes around the corner.
  • 00:16:15.901 --> 00:16:17.569
  • They shoot me once right there.
  • 00:16:17.569 --> 00:16:18.870
  • They shoot my buddy who's a muslim six times
  • 00:16:18.870 --> 00:16:21.873
  • One, two, three, four, five, six on his back.
  • 00:16:21.873 --> 00:16:25.677
  • He's not dead.
  • 00:16:25.677 --> 00:16:26.711
  • We're fighting for our lives.
  • 00:16:26.711 --> 00:16:27.913
  • He can't move his uncle. don't leave me.
  • 00:16:27.913 --> 00:16:29.948
  • And we're just.
  • 00:16:29.948 --> 00:16:31.516
  • At that moment, i did fight isis point blank.
  • 00:16:31.516 --> 00:16:34.719
  • It will stop them. get around.
  • 00:16:34.719 --> 00:16:36.254
  • Long story short, he survived.
  • 00:16:36.254 --> 00:16:38.757
  • We put him on an armored vehicle,
  • 00:16:38.757 --> 00:16:39.991
  • Got him out of the battle. i didn't know what happened.
  • 00:16:39.991 --> 00:16:41.493
  • A month later, found out on the operating table.
  • 00:16:41.493 --> 00:16:43.995
  • The doctor said allah is what he used.
  • 00:16:43.995 --> 00:16:46.965
  • They mean god of what?
  • 00:16:46.965 --> 00:16:48.333
  • You can parse it out or whatever way. but
  • 00:16:48.333 --> 00:16:51.036
  • I'll sagan.
  • 00:16:51.369 --> 00:16:53.038
  • And then when he came out two months later, he said,
  • 00:16:53.038 --> 00:16:56.141
  • My daughter was born that same day,
  • 00:16:56.141 --> 00:16:58.243
  • And i know god saved me, and i know who saved me,
  • 00:16:58.243 --> 00:17:00.846
  • Who is jesus, and i want to follow him.
  • 00:17:00.846 --> 00:17:02.981
  • Can i be a follower?
  • 00:17:02.981 --> 00:17:03.849
  • But i have to be a quiet one
  • 00:17:03.849 --> 00:17:05.317
  • Because i live down in a place where they will kill my family.
  • 00:17:05.317 --> 00:17:08.487
  • So that's another follower of jesus.
  • 00:17:08.487 --> 00:17:10.288
  • They both survived.
  • 00:17:10.288 --> 00:17:12.491
  • Traveling with you sounds a lot like traveling
  • 00:17:12.491 --> 00:17:14.493
  • With the apostle paul.
  • 00:17:14.493 --> 00:17:16.161
  • He's much better.
  • 00:17:16.161 --> 00:17:17.829
  • Thank you for being with us today.
  • 00:17:17.829 --> 00:17:19.631
  • Thanks, sir.
  • 00:17:19.631 --> 00:17:20.599
  • We will continue to lift you up in prayer.
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  • Dave eubank, you're doing some great work
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  • For the people who need a voice and an expression of strength.
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  • I hope you'll come back another time.
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  • I would love it, sir.
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  • Thank you. in a moment i'll have some thoughts of my own.
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  • Thank you. in a moment i'll have some thoughts of my own.
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  • You know, in america we talk a lot about spiritual conflict.
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  • It's kind of a theoretical construct.
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  • When you meet somebody like david eubanks
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  • And you hear about the free burma rangers,
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  • You realize there's
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  • Some very
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  • Tangible characteristics
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  • To the spiritual conflict in the earth.
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  • The only way that makes sense is if you believe in eternity,
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  • Because it's so easy
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  • To get totally captivated by what we're doing in time.
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  • The things on our calendar,
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  • The things in our to do list,
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  • The things that we think steal our joy or make us happy.
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  • It's a powerful reminder
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  • That there is a spiritual battle in the earth
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  • And that eternity is in the balance.
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  • Please don't be afraid to share the good news of your faith
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  • With the people around you,
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  • The people you work with, with your family.
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  • It's not always simple.
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  • Sometimes it leads us into places where there's conflict,
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  • But the outcomes of telling the truth are worthwhile.
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  • If we can be awakened to that reality again, i believe we will
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  • See god's mercy and grace
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  • Poured out upon our nation once again.
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  • With that, there are more reasons for hope than despair
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  • When we return. i'm going to read some of your emails.
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  • When we return. i'm going to read some of your emails.
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  • Thank you for taking the time
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  • To send us your emails, your comments.
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  • They make a difference.
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  • Joan from california.
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  • Please remind your audience that a lot of the christians
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  • In germany didn't speak out.
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  • Please don't let us repeat what happened to the jewish people.
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  • Socialism doesn't work.
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  • Well, you're right, joan,
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  • And it was the silence of the church in germany
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  • And throughout much of europe
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  • That made
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  • The most horrific parts of world war two and the holocaust
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  • A possibility.
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  • When the church fails,
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  • Tremendous suffering overwhelms humanity.
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  • It's an important time to be the church.
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  • We've got to find our voices.
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  • And then finally, rick from tennessee.
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  • I love the new show.
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  • Your passion and dedication to the truth is so helpful today
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  • For that. i sincerely thank you.
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  • Is the show only on once a day with no repeat?
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  • Yeah, rick. ron once a day.
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  • I know it's 6:00 6 p.m.
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  • Central time.
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  • You can catch that on tv ins app and see it at your leisure.
  • 00:19:40.707 --> 00:19:44.745
  • They're all stacked in there.
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  • We're starting a new youtube channel.
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  • You'll be able to watch them at your leisure,
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  • But for now, it's a once a day opportunity.
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  • Thanks for your comments.
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  • Oh yeah, they're telling my ear you can record that.
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  • Whatever your dvr makes possible,
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  • And share it with your friends.
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  • The best thing you can do is tell your friends word of mouth
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  • Will expand the audience and give us more opportunities.
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  • And from all of us here in nashville
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  • I thank you for joining us tonight.
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  • You have a wonderful evening.
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