Allen Jackson: January 16, 2025 | Allen Jackson Now

January 16, 2025 | S25:E116

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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: January 16, 2025 | Allen Jackson Now | January 16, 2025
  • Good evening.
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  • I'm alan jackson, and we're coming to you tonight
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  • From the campus of world outreach church in nashville.
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  • Welcome to our new program.
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  • We have a guest tonight
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  • Whose work you'll not find in the daily headlines.
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  • But his success is equally, if not more important
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  • Than a lot of the news you see each day.
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  • He's the ceo of an organization called far reaching ministries.
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  • The name itself tells you much of what you need to know
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  • Where missionaries are deployed.
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  • In nine of the ten
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  • Most dangerous islamic countries in the world,
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  • And overall in more than 30 countries globally.
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  • Wes bentley, thank you for taking the time
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  • To discuss your global ministry with us today.
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  • Plugging in your own.
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  • And west, i just want to thank you
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  • For your efforts on behalf of the kingdom of god.
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  • You're making a difference all over the world
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  • And we are all appreciative for what you're doing.
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  • Thank you.
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  • So let's start with
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  • Your work in the south sudan.
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  • The war has been going on there for close
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  • To 30 years now, and the death toll is just staggering.
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  • More than 2 million women, children and men.
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  • You have lost more than 70 people of your own
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  • Who were trying to help those in need.
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  • The news crews have long since stopped going there.
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  • So maybe we just begin by you telling us what it's like now
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  • And how your people are holding up.
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  • Well, alan, you know, we've been in the war since.
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  • I've been there since 96, and i've been involved
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  • In the war training their chaplain since 1978.
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  • Our chaplains are a little bit
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  • Different than your normal chaplain.
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  • They're all frontline combat chaplains.
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  • And the reason behind that is because, you know,
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  • The islamic world was coming in to,
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  • Kill all the women and children and take them into slavery.
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  • And so a part of what we did
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  • Is protect those that did not have the ability
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  • To protect themselves over, from 98 up until recently,
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  • I believe it's 76 men that we have had killed
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  • In the war in southern sudan, most of them at the frontlines.
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  • Most of had been shot.
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  • We lost a few to disease, but not very many.
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  • But most of them give their lives.
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  • Just try to protect other people.
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  • Well, are the reason i'm a little,
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  • We've been so involved in afghanistan, in ukraine
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  • This last couple of years that i haven't been
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  • As much in sudan as usual, as usual.
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  • But the work is going on very, very well.
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  • To the women and children you're trying to protect,
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  • Do they have any weapons
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  • Or even tools that they can use to defend themselves?
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  • Mostly not to women.
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  • I mean, most men in, southern sudan are armed.
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  • But, you know, we run into these,
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  • Rebel groups that come and attack.
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  • I probably about seven years ago.
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  • We had a guerrilla unit that was probing our village.
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  • Our scouts had spotted them
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  • Somewhere between thousand, maybe 1200 guerrillas, and i.
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  • I had to deploy the men out into the field.
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  • Every night we would go out as the sun was setting,
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  • And i would tell them not to come in until the sun rose.
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  • And of course, by standing water was at that
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  • Time was intercept them and destroy them.
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  • And now if someone surrenders, will always taken prisoner.
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  • But see if they escape.
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  • They're coming
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  • Back to take women and children to sex slavery.
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  • Child soldiers.
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  • And so i thought, we have a responsibility to protect him.
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  • Well, let's move to afghanistan.
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  • You mentioned it earlier
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  • When the current white house pulled our troops out
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  • So abruptly, they not only lost the lives of u.s.
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  • Troops, but they left thousands of afghan citizens behind,
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  • Afghans who had helped the u.s.
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  • There for decades.
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  • You've managed to rescue a lot of them.
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  • Can you give us an update on your mission there?
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  • It is not a problem there.
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  • You know, when
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  • Afghanistan collapsed overnight, we had about 20 missionaries
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  • In the underground with their extended families,
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  • About 200 people.
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  • And i got a call from our dutch office, our dutch partner,
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  • And they said they're going to all be killed for their faith.
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  • So i went down to the staff.
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  • I said, we're going into war operations.
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  • One week later, five former navy seals would fly in three
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  • Former marine special
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  • Forces, one army green beret and one brother of the cia.
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  • And we planned operations into afghanistan shortly after that.
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  • I said in two teams simultaneously.
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  • The first one flew into the chopper.
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  • We landed at 12,000ft.
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  • We deployed marines and seals.
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  • I went with the second team.
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  • We were told
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  • We're going to climb 2000ft, but we ended climbing 11,500ft.
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  • And what we were looking for was rat lines
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  • Escape route to get people out of the country.
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  • And there were no trails on this mountain.
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  • Was very difficult to climb.
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  • I don't know the exact number that we've gotten out
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  • Like it's over 2700.
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  • Somewhere between 27 and 2800.
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  • We're actually in the process of shutting down operations.
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  • Not because we can't get them out.
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  • I can't get any countries to take.
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  • Before countries were allowed to come.
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  • Brazil was great about it.
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  • And a few other countries,
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  • The us was the one that really almost refused to take anyone.
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  • And, when our government pulled out,
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  • They left 28, former cia agents within the country.
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  • Now, these were masters.
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  • And, i got a call from shannon spann, mike's man's wife.
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  • Like spann was the first cia officer killed in afghanistan.
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  • And shannon's kind of been working with us ever since, and,
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  • It was a long process.
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  • Took over a year, but we were able to get all 28
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  • Of those people out of the country.
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  • And, they were in the united arab emirates.
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  • And, from what i understand, they had a meeting
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  • With the director of the agency,
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  • And they're now supposed to be brought to the stage.
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  • I pray that's the truth.
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  • What do the afghan people say about what they must see
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  • As a very unreliable partner in the us?
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  • Do they have any sense
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  • Of how american politics play into these mixed messages
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  • That they get from washington, dc?
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  • I think for many people,
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  • I'm sorry
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  • You're breaking up a little bit, but i think for many people,
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  • You know, the united states went over there and we told them
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  • That they had the right to have liberty and live a certain way.
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  • And then when we pulled out,
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  • We basically left them to be murdered.
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  • We had guys in-country on the ground
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  • Videoing different operations.
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  • And i'll, i'll never forget,
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  • One of the our guys was on the top of a roof.
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  • He was videoing, a car pulls up to a checkpoint on a bridge,
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  • And, the taliban gets the father out of the car,
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  • Takes him over to the edge of the bridge,
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  • And i will explain how they slaughtered him
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  • Very graphically.
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  • They slaughtered
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  • Him in front of his wife and children,
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  • And then they just waved the car on.
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  • And so it became imperative for us to operate
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  • As fast as we could and to get as many as alit as we could.
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  • And, they got the word was successful.
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  • I don't think i ever dreamed that we'd get so many people.
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  • But, you know, i think you take that
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  • Step of faith, and then god intervenes and open the skies.
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  • You know, i have lived in the middle east.
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  • I think americans being can be incredibly naive.
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  • One of the lines we hear here at home
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  • Frequently is that islam is a peaceful religion.
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  • You work in that part of the world a great deal.
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  • What's your comment?
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  • Do you understand islam to be a peaceful religion in our world?
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  • Well, one of the things i will tell
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  • People that, if you find a peace loving,
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  • Islamic person, they don't understand the koran.
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  • The problem is not teach it at all.
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  • And, you know, as much as people
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  • Might like or dislike someone. like who?
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  • Some of the lot.
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  • He's actually living what his book teaches.
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  • And they do teach, you know, to destroy, to kill, to take over.
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  • There's a lot of crazy things that are taught
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  • That they don't publicly talk about.
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  • But no, we've found them to, be very brutal.
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  • I think one of the things that the, afghan people
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  • Were really shocked about with us
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  • Is we had a lot of safe houses in afghanistan.
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  • You know, fortunately, on my staff,
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  • I have former cia and fbi working for us,
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  • And we had a lot
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  • Of former sailors and marines, and we were able to set up
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  • Quite a few safe houses within the country there.
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  • And so because of that, we actually had discipleship
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  • With the people in the houses, and they had a real heart,
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  • Unattached, understanding of why we would care for them.
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  • Because within the religion,
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  • God is not a person who loves or shows compassion.
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  • But we know the scripture says it's the love of god
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  • That compels people to repentance.
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  • So we try to model that for them.
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  • That is so good.
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  • Well, it's time for us to take a short break.
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  • I can't. talk.
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  • We'll be back with more
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  • On the far reaching ministries in just a moment.
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  • If you'd like to send us your thoughts on this,
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  • Please write to comments at alan jackson now.com.
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  • We read them and we can also get them to invest into his team.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • Well, we're back now with the ceo of far
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  • Reaching ministries, wes bentley.
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  • Whereas i understand that you've had
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  • A pretty dramatic rescue in afghanistan recently.
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  • I know you can't give us all the details,
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  • But can you give us at least a high level
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  • View of what it was that you were a part of?
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  • Yeah.
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  • I mean, one of the things is when we share,
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  • We're going to change names of cities and certain events.
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  • The whole story is true,
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  • But we share in such a way that they're not able
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  • To follow us and figure out what we're doing.
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  • We had a situation with a family.
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  • The taliban took their ten year old daughter to give
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  • To a 65 year old taliban soldier.
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  • And you know, the child was screaming and crying and,
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  • You know, the parents couldn't do anything.
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  • They were held at gunpoint.
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  • We moved the family into a safe house.
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  • Were about 18 of them.
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  • Not all their family, a few other people.
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  • Well, one day i get a call from overseas
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  • And they tell me,
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  • They said
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  • We think that the safe house might have been compromised.
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  • I'm literally on the phone with people that are former fbi,
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  • Former cia, state department, blackwater.
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  • Blackwater was actually a great deal of help to us.
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  • I know they don't call themselves that anymore.
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  • And, the decision was made at the end of the time.
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  • They said they felt like they were safe.
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  • Now, one of the things i always tell people
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  • That when god
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  • Put you in charge of something, you have to take charge.
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  • One of the problems for me is
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  • I knew how to fight a war in southern sudan.
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  • I've been in it for 30 years,
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  • But i had never been in afghanistan
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  • Before until the two trips that i had made.
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  • And, you know, all of the guys on my team,
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  • All the seals, all the marines had multiple tours of operations
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  • Into afghanistan.
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  • But as they were sharing this with me,
  • 00:10:40.467 --> 00:10:42.535
  • I had a tremendous un peace that they were not safe.
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  • And i said, guys,
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  • I know that
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  • This doesn't make sense, but i really believe
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  • That we have to launch an operation tonight.
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  • And it was we had to mobilize very quickly.
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  • We had to get foreign contractors for mercenaries,
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  • And we had to get them in place.
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  • And, we rolled into the city.
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  • We had told the families, give your children sleeping pills
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  • Because one child crying out can expose the thing.
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  • And of course, we didn't go out looking like u.s. soldiers.
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  • We went in looking like them,
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  • And we came in very late in the night.
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  • We pulled up
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  • In, got the entire 18 people out of the house, safe house.
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  • And we had to wind
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  • Through the city for hours to get them to the new location.
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  • Eventually we did get them there.
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  • And just before 5:00 in the morning,
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  • They were safely in, and we disappeared
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  • The very next morning as the sun rose.
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  • It was either 3 or 4 truckloads full of taliban soldiers
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  • Came rushing into the neighborhood,
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  • Broke down the door, but the people were gone.
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  • And this is why i tell people it's very important
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  • That you listen to the world on these things.
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  • Now that family has recently asked us,
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  • Can we get them their daughter back out?
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  • And we're in the middle of that operation right now.
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  • We have done things like this before.
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  • We, we've gone in and got people out.
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  • The problem is, is that,
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  • You know, you have a child taken two years ago.
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  • Most likely she's had a child with a person she's with,
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  • And we don't know
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  • Whether she's brainwashed, so we can't give her any warning.
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  • We just have to go on there and grab her and get her out.
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  • We had a situation where,
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  • There's a christian
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  • Family in afghanistan.
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  • With the war ended, the mother had immigrated to america.
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  • I don't know why she did this,
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  • But she went back to afghanistan to see her daughter.
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  • Well,
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  • The taliban is very suspicious of anybody from america.
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  • So they follow, the wife's husband as well.
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  • He didn't come home from work.
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  • And, when he didn't come home from work,
  • 00:12:35.949 --> 00:12:38.384
  • She went to find him, and he had been butchered.
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  • So the taliban told me to take 2 or 3 daughters.
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  • That i'll be given to other soldiers as wives.
  • 00:12:44.390 --> 00:12:47.594
  • Once again, we had a large operation.
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  • Very difficult,
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  • But we didn't get off with them safely out of the country.
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  • It's unbelievable.
  • 00:12:56.569 --> 00:12:57.470
  • You know, the sex trade is a reality.
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  • It's something we don't like to talk about in polite company.
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  • But in the countries where you're working,
  • 00:13:02.242 --> 00:13:03.676
  • It's pretty common practice.
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  • You've.
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  • I've read that you said the capturing of the children
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  • Even begins as early as 5 or 6 years of age.
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  • Right.
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  • A lot of that, i was told, is happening in south america,
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  • And i think even coming into our borders, can that be true?
  • 00:13:15.788 --> 00:13:19.626
  • Well, it's going to continue to come into our borders
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  • If we don't enforce the law.
  • 00:13:22.762 --> 00:13:24.564
  • Down in south america, we have an orphanage down there
  • 00:13:24.564 --> 00:13:27.000
  • We support,
  • 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:27.767
  • We have a three year old down there
  • 00:13:27.767 --> 00:13:29.736
  • That needs reconstructive surgery
  • 00:13:29.736 --> 00:13:31.738
  • Because of all the rape that she's been through.
  • 00:13:31.738 --> 00:13:34.240
  • I have a nine year old down there
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  • That at about the age of five, her father
  • 00:13:35.975 --> 00:13:38.745
  • Begin to selling her to 5 or 6 men at night.
  • 00:13:38.745 --> 00:13:41.347
  • And she now is hiv positive.
  • 00:13:41.347 --> 00:13:44.117
  • And, you know, one of the things that i don't agree
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  • With, a lot of believers, you know, a lot of believers
  • 00:13:45.852 --> 00:13:47.587
  • Would, take the position that turn the other cheek means,
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  • That you're not supposed to fight.
  • 00:13:51.190 --> 00:13:53.159
  • Well, turn the other cheek
  • 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:54.427
  • Means take an offense for the gospel.
  • 00:13:54.427 --> 00:13:56.562
  • It does not mean that you allow women to be raped,
  • 00:13:56.562 --> 00:13:59.165
  • To be sold into sexual slavery, to be murdered, to be killed.
  • 00:13:59.165 --> 00:14:02.635
  • And so when we run into these situations,
  • 00:14:02.635 --> 00:14:04.904
  • We will go in there and we will grab these children.
  • 00:14:04.904 --> 00:14:08.207
  • And, you know, one of the things
  • 00:14:08.207 --> 00:14:10.243
  • About being in south sudan, all the men are armed.
  • 00:14:10.243 --> 00:14:12.779
  • It's very easy to, defend ourselves and fight.
  • 00:14:12.779 --> 00:14:16.649
  • But in countries like south america,
  • 00:14:16.649 --> 00:14:18.051
  • You're not allowed to carry arms.
  • 00:14:18.051 --> 00:14:19.786
  • It makes the whole situation a lot more dangerous.
  • 00:14:19.786 --> 00:14:22.488
  • And of course, these people are searching for these children
  • 00:14:22.488 --> 00:14:24.624
  • Because they're worth a great deal of money.
  • 00:14:24.624 --> 00:14:28.528
  • Whereas how do you recruit helping hands?
  • 00:14:29.429 --> 00:14:32.265
  • People find you by word of mouth.
  • 00:14:32.265 --> 00:14:33.866
  • How do they know more about you and help you?
  • 00:14:33.866 --> 00:14:37.470
  • You know, and truthfully, most of the guys have found me.
  • 00:14:37.470 --> 00:14:41.074
  • It started with, several navy seals,
  • 00:14:41.074 --> 00:14:44.877
  • A number of years ago.
  • 00:14:44.877 --> 00:14:47.947
  • Brother by the name of gerard.
  • 00:14:47.947 --> 00:14:49.449
  • Great brother in christ.
  • 00:14:49.449 --> 00:14:50.683
  • He helped me with the afghanistan operation.
  • 00:14:50.683 --> 00:14:53.386
  • Dave lopez and the other great navy seal
  • 00:14:53.386 --> 00:14:56.022
  • That helped me in this operation.
  • 00:14:56.022 --> 00:14:57.991
  • And, so they found out about us.
  • 00:14:57.991 --> 00:15:00.693
  • They contacted us.
  • 00:15:00.693 --> 00:15:01.894
  • You know, one of the things i have to be careful about.
  • 00:15:01.894 --> 00:15:04.197
  • It's easy to get men that want to go in and fight.
  • 00:15:04.197 --> 00:15:06.866
  • It's just within a man's nature to do that.
  • 00:15:06.866 --> 00:15:09.635
  • And what we're telling
  • 00:15:09.635 --> 00:15:10.570
  • Them, guys, we're there for the gospel.
  • 00:15:10.570 --> 00:15:11.804
  • Were there to lead people to jesus christ.
  • 00:15:11.804 --> 00:15:14.140
  • Fighting is something we do because we have to,
  • 00:15:14.140 --> 00:15:17.010
  • We're there to protect the women and children.
  • 00:15:17.010 --> 00:15:18.978
  • And, you know, and one of the things
  • 00:15:18.978 --> 00:15:19.979
  • I teach my guys in africa, when you know what
  • 00:15:19.979 --> 00:15:22.615
  • The right thing to do, do it immediately.
  • 00:15:22.615 --> 00:15:24.751
  • Because if you don't, you will compromise
  • 00:15:24.751 --> 00:15:27.220
  • In your relationship with the lord.
  • 00:15:27.220 --> 00:15:29.088
  • And i told him, i said, you know, if one night,
  • 00:15:29.088 --> 00:15:31.557
  • The enemy comes with 200 soldiers
  • 00:15:31.557 --> 00:15:34.293
  • And there's only five of us,
  • 00:15:34.293 --> 00:15:36.062
  • Just know this is the day you're going
  • 00:15:36.062 --> 00:15:37.397
  • To go home to meet the lord.
  • 00:15:37.397 --> 00:15:38.998
  • And you stand and you fight to the last man.
  • 00:15:38.998 --> 00:15:41.768
  • Because in doing so,
  • 00:15:41.768 --> 00:15:42.969
  • Maybe another 10 or 20 women and children will escape.
  • 00:15:42.969 --> 00:15:46.706
  • I tell them, it's not your job to save your lives.
  • 00:15:46.706 --> 00:15:48.875
  • It's your job to save their lives.
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  • We're men.
  • 00:15:50.910 --> 00:15:51.878
  • They're women and children.
  • 00:15:51.878 --> 00:15:53.613
  • And we have a responsibility as christian men.
  • 00:15:53.613 --> 00:15:55.782
  • We're. we're raising a generation of effeminate men.
  • 00:15:55.782 --> 00:15:59.085
  • Wes bentley, thank you for
  • 00:15:59.652 --> 00:16:01.120
  • Sharing your time with us this evening.
  • 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:03.256
  • What you're doing is obviously so important,
  • 00:16:03.256 --> 00:16:06.192
  • And we hope that some of the people
  • 00:16:06.192 --> 00:16:07.427
  • Watching tonight will reach out to help you as you go forward.
  • 00:16:07.427 --> 00:16:10.930
  • Please check back with us in a few months so we can report
  • 00:16:10.930 --> 00:16:14.167
  • On how your teams are doing.
  • 00:16:14.167 --> 00:16:17.303
  • We'll be glad to.
  • 00:16:17.303 --> 00:16:19.872
  • When we come back, i'm going to share some thoughts
  • 00:16:19.872 --> 00:16:21.974
  • Of my own.
  • 00:16:21.974 --> 00:16:29.004
  • Of my own.
  • 00:16:29.004 --> 00:16:31.719
  • We've been reminded today that there's
  • 00:16:32.554 --> 00:16:34.255
  • A great need in our world for god's strong men.
  • 00:16:34.255 --> 00:16:37.559
  • Not just church attenders or polite people
  • 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:40.562
  • Or timid, quiet people,
  • 00:16:40.562 --> 00:16:41.963
  • But men who have a strength that comes from god.
  • 00:16:41.963 --> 00:16:44.699
  • And i believe there's some assignments that come with that.
  • 00:16:44.699 --> 00:16:46.901
  • I believe we have to lead,
  • 00:16:46.901 --> 00:16:48.603
  • That we have to provide, and we have to protect.
  • 00:16:48.603 --> 00:16:51.272
  • There's a lot of confusion on this
  • 00:16:51.272 --> 00:16:52.707
  • Amongst the christian community in our nation.
  • 00:16:52.707 --> 00:16:55.710
  • Leading is not complicated.
  • 00:16:55.710 --> 00:16:57.312
  • Get your family to church. take them there.
  • 00:16:57.312 --> 00:16:59.981
  • Stop using sunday as a day for recreation
  • 00:16:59.981 --> 00:17:02.884
  • And sports and put god back in the midst of our family.
  • 00:17:02.884 --> 00:17:05.987
  • I'm not opposed to recreation,
  • 00:17:05.987 --> 00:17:07.755
  • But lead your family towards a faithfulness in the lord.
  • 00:17:07.755 --> 00:17:11.159
  • You know,
  • 00:17:11.459 --> 00:17:12.127
  • In protecting our families,
  • 00:17:12.127 --> 00:17:13.061
  • In most cases,
  • 00:17:13.061 --> 00:17:13.895
  • It doesn't mean we have to bear arms
  • 00:17:13.895 --> 00:17:15.396
  • And go to foreign countries.
  • 00:17:15.396 --> 00:17:17.065
  • But we've been told that protecting our kids
  • 00:17:17.065 --> 00:17:18.833
  • Means you buckle them into a car seat
  • 00:17:18.833 --> 00:17:20.935
  • Until they're old enough to drive the car,
  • 00:17:20.935 --> 00:17:23.138
  • Or you put a helmet on them when they ride their bike,
  • 00:17:23.138 --> 00:17:25.573
  • Or you don't ever let them go outside.
  • 00:17:25.573 --> 00:17:27.108
  • And unless they have on spf 50.
  • 00:17:27.108 --> 00:17:29.611
  • Well, i'm not opposed to those things,
  • 00:17:29.611 --> 00:17:31.679
  • But if you do those things and then you let d-i and crt
  • 00:17:31.679 --> 00:17:35.750
  • Fill the schools where your children are,
  • 00:17:35.750 --> 00:17:38.620
  • You're abandoning them to ideas that will reap destruction
  • 00:17:38.620 --> 00:17:41.890
  • In our world.
  • 00:17:41.890 --> 00:17:43.391
  • I'm grateful for the mama bears that we saw
  • 00:17:43.391 --> 00:17:45.493
  • At the school board meetings
  • 00:17:45.493 --> 00:17:46.628
  • Talking about curriculum and pornography in schools,
  • 00:17:46.628 --> 00:17:49.330
  • But where were the men?
  • 00:17:49.330 --> 00:17:51.065
  • It's time for us to stand up and say,
  • 00:17:51.065 --> 00:17:52.934
  • We will not surrender our children
  • 00:17:52.934 --> 00:17:54.936
  • To people who see them from a predatory perspective.
  • 00:17:54.936 --> 00:17:58.273
  • We need god, strong men.
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  • I believe there are more reasons for hope than despair.
  • 00:18:00.575 --> 00:18:04.445
  • We'll be back in just a moment with your emails
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  • And your perspectives on these programs.
  • 00:18:07.015 --> 00:18:15.010
  • And your perspectives on these programs.
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  • Thank you for your emails.
  • 00:18:18.325 --> 00:18:19.893
  • Your opinions and perspectives
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  • Are an important part of our preparation
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  • For the shows that are in front of us.
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  • Now, i've recruited some help.
  • 00:18:26.233 --> 00:18:28.068
  • Kelly, who was a part of our production
  • 00:18:28.068 --> 00:18:29.536
  • Team, is actually going to read your emails
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  • And help me process them.
  • 00:18:31.939 --> 00:18:33.207
  • So, kelly, what'd you bring today?
  • 00:18:33.207 --> 00:18:34.675
  • Well, sarah from tennessee wrote,
  • 00:18:34.675 --> 00:18:36.276
  • I've been following tbn israel for a few months now,
  • 00:18:36.276 --> 00:18:39.379
  • And it's an excellent source of information in between chris
  • 00:18:39.379 --> 00:18:42.249
  • Mitchell's reports.
  • 00:18:42.249 --> 00:18:43.483
  • I was thrilled to find an episode where you interviewed
  • 00:18:43.483 --> 00:18:46.653
  • J.r. pinto, and i just watched a new episode where maddy schnee
  • 00:18:46.653 --> 00:18:51.725
  • Interviewed you.
  • 00:18:52.125 --> 00:18:53.293
  • Your pinto's boots on the ground reports are outstanding.
  • 00:18:53.293 --> 00:18:56.430
  • I imagine your calendar is probably booked
  • 00:18:56.430 --> 00:18:58.565
  • A year in advance, but would it be worth the wait
  • 00:18:58.565 --> 00:19:00.767
  • To invite one or both of these idf soldiers to see?
  • 00:19:00.767 --> 00:19:05.138
  • I think that listeners prophetic.
  • 00:19:05.138 --> 00:19:07.874
  • Our calendar is booked quite a bit out, but this week year
  • 00:19:07.874 --> 00:19:10.978
  • Is actually going to be with us in murfreesboro on our set.
  • 00:19:10.978 --> 00:19:14.548
  • So you stay tuned this week and you'll get an update
  • 00:19:14.548 --> 00:19:17.517
  • From the perspective of somebody
  • 00:19:17.517 --> 00:19:18.885
  • Who's in the idf of what's happening in israel,
  • 00:19:18.885 --> 00:19:21.321
  • Particularly right now up in the golan heights.
  • 00:19:21.321 --> 00:19:23.490
  • These are pretty tough days in the northern part of israel.
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  • Thank you for your question.
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  • Kelly, thank you for helping with the emails
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  • And for those of us here from the crew
  • 00:19:31.265 --> 00:19:32.866
  • Here, from those that are helping us in new york.
  • 00:19:32.866 --> 00:19:35.168
  • We want to say thank you for being a part of this program.
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  • Our intention is to add some hope to your days
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  • So that we know that god's watching over us.
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  • We'll see you soon.
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