Charles Stimson joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events in our country.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Justice Process | Allen Jackson Now | September 17, 2025
- Good evening, and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- The first duty of government is to protect us.
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- But in reality, without a truthful media
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- And voices in leadership that are honest,
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- The police cannot maintain safety, open borders, cities
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- With our laws. we have created violence.
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- And then we ask police to make us safe.
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- Well, charlie kirk spoke frequently about the threats
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- He and his turning point organization received,
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- Even as he raced around the country meeting
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- With as many students as he could.
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- This fall's campus tour was called
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- The american comeback tour, and he sat behind a simple table
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- Under a tent that said, prove me wrong.
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- It was a very smart way of demonstrating
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- The first amendment to our young people.
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- College is supposed to be about growing
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- And learning and meeting new friends.
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- Football games and frisbees.
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- But last week, the screams we heard weren't from sports.
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- They were from terrified students
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- Running from a rifle shot.
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- A suspect has been arrested.
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- Utah has the death penalty,
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- And the accused has admitted to friends that he did it.
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- But what needs to be done to put together a legal case
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- That ensures that justice is done?
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- Well, our guest tonight is the senior
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- Legal fellow at the heritage foundation, carly stimson.
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- Welcome back, sir.
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- Thanks for having me, alan.
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- There is
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- A video of tyler robinson.
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- There are dna samples
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- And text messages from his transgender roommate.
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- He told his father that he'd rather die than be turned in.
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- But he was turned in, and he's behind bars now.
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- The governor says that robinson is not cooperating,
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- And they have him on a suicide watch.
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- What else needs to be done to put together the case?
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- So, no doubt with all those kids in that audience, the fbi
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- And the local officials are going through
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- Any videos that those kids have, and they'll upload that
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- And comb through that to see if there's anything
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- Damning or exculpatory.
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- Because remember, the government
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- Has the obligation to turn over potentially exculpatory
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- Information to the defense counsel.
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- They'll look at like in the brian cole burger case
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- And he cell site location information, which pings
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- Various cell towers as he went from uvu south to southern
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- Utah and back.
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- They'll look at video from highway patrol.
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- They'll look also at dna, which could have been left
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- On various guardrails, handrails on the gun.
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- They'll look at the ballistics
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- If they can find the bullet and see the lanes and grooves
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- Of that bullet to see whether it matches
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- That 36 that they found and other information.
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- So this is a puzzle
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- That you have to put together when you're a prosecutor.
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- And i've been a prosecutor.
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- Takes time.
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- Now, fortunately, the full weight of the federal
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- Government has been cooperating,
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- And they've already tested a lot of the information
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- At the quantico lab.
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- And so this will take time.
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- And obviously,
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- They're now seeking the ultimate punishment,
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- Which under utah law has a certain aggravating factor.
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- And the prosecutor just laid out what
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- Those aggravating factors are.
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- When you consider the two incidents of shooters
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- Targeting the president as well as charlie
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- Kirk, it points to a full on attack
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- On the make america great movement.
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- Senator lindsey graham had this to say.
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- There is an effort
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- By the radical left to dehumanize the maga movement,
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- And i don't i reject political violence.
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- If you are offended by what somebody says or does,
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- Then then take up a political cost to fight back.
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- Not a gun, not a bomb, not a knife.
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- The white house says there's going to be an effort
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- To track down
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- And stop the left leaning groups
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- That traffic and hate and violence.
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- What do you think they'll be able to accomplish?
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- Hard to tell at this point.
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- Now, there's one thing
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- Between which we all cherish protected first amendment speech
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- And the freedom of association,
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- Which i think everyone
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- In the light of right and left should be able to agree on.
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- And the expenditure of moneys,
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- Which is lawful in most instances,
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- Supporting free speech and freedom of association.
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- But you cross a line when that expenditure of money
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- Intentionally funds individuals who then
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- Either by direction or by wink, wink, nod,
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- Nod, then engage in acts of violence or worse.
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- And so i think when they impanel grand juries,
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- When they do oversight hearings
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- And they get to the bottom of whether that money
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- Went to good things or intentionally bad things,
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- We don't know the answer to that yet.
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- But investigations are coming.
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- Well, i'm thinking of the other young man who gunned down
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- The health care ceo in new york, luigi mangione.
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- He has $1 million gofundme account now
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- From people who are sympathetic to his cause.
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- Sick as that might be.
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- Do you think charlie kirk's killer
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- Is going to get a similar response?
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- And is there anything that we can do about it legally?
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- Hard to tell.
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- Too early to tell.
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- And in fact, i think if people want to fund a killer,
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- Killer's defense, there's nothing illegal about it.
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- I find it revolting and and vomit vomits personally.
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- But remember, that, the cop killers all across this country,
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- Especially like mama, mama abdul-jabbar,
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- Who killed a philadelphia police officer years ago.
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- There's a sort of a love me page for this guy.
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- There's a movement,
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- Behind, this guy and so there's always people
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- Who take the side of the murderer.
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- And unless they're doing
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- Something besides just paying money, it's despicable.
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- But it's lawful.
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- Well, there's other dangers on campus this fall.
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- At least ten schools have been victims of swatting incidents.
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- Swatting is when someone calls in an active shooter threat
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- To disrupt classes and scare the student body and staff.
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- One of them happened a couple
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- Hours from here at the university of tennessee
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- In chattanooga.
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- An online site called purgatory
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- Is taking credit for creating the chaos.
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- It's a disturbing
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- Sign of the times where someone wants the credit for chaos.
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- What can you tell us, and what can be done
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- To prosecute the people behind these incidents?
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- Yeah, and think about this, allen.
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- The first swatting incident
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- Happened in over a dozen schools.
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- Colleges happened just after the catholic school shooting case.
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- So imagine the parents.
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- And i'm a parent of college students.
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- Imagine the parents of those students
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- Getting the texts from their kids.
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- My school is on lockdown.
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- There's an active shooter in it.
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- It was even worse because some of the squatters who called in
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- Had the sound fake of gunshots going on.
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- So it was intentionally horrific,
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- To be sort of terrorizing these students.
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- And so
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- Whether they use burner phones when whether they went through
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- Other proxies,
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- Whether they went through servers around the world
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- That then bounced to the schools, i don't know.
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- But we got to get to the bottom of it.
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- And, and the people who did
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- This need to be punished accordingly.
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- Well, these swatting calls are no joke.
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- As i understand
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- It, the penalty, if convicted, can be as much as 5 to 20 years.
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- What are some of the other dangers
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- When swatting incidents happen?
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- Well,
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- It can be longer than 20 years too, because if, for example,
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- Under federal law, if somebody engaged in swatting
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- And somebody died as a result of the swat, and you can imagine,
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- A person freaking out thinking that their shooting going on,
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- Running down stairs, tripping, fall and hitting their head
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- And dying,
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- Or somebody breaks a leg or somebody
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- Does something like that where they get injured.
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- It can add to the exposure.
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- Penalty wise.
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- And so, this is terrible.
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- Not only does it cause chaos and then potentially long term
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- Mental health issues for the students
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- And the faculty and the staff at the schools,
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- But it's just disturbing overall.
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- And so it is despicable.
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- And these people, deserve every day they get in prison
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- If they're caught.
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- Amen.
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- Well, i hope you'll stay with us for another segment.
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- I'd like to discuss the president's plan for memphis
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- And your new book. when we come back.
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- And your new book. when we come back.
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- We're back now with kelly
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- Stimson, the senior legal fellow at the heritage foundation.
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- You've got a new book out called rogue prosecutors.
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- There certainly seem to be a lot of them out there.
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- No one knows better about that than president trump.
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- Tell us what you've learned about how bad things
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- Have become since trump entered politics.
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- Yeah.
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- So the rogue prosecutor movement,
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- Which is funded and conceived of by george soros back in 2016,
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- Realized that the da is the gatekeeper
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- To the criminal justice system.
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- He and he alone decides who gets prosecuted, who doesn't.
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- And these are low dollar, low
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- Visibility races around the country.
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- And so since there's 2300 elected da's,
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- You can really sprinkle money
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- Very effectively around the country, which they've done.
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- And even though there's 2300, they have elected about 73
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- Around the country,
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- But that represents 68% of the population of the country.
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- So you got one there in tennessee, steve mulroy
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- Got over $600,000 of soros affiliated money.
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- And they have a playbook and they all operate off
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- The same playbook,
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- Watered down felonies to misdemeanors, don't
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- Prosecute misdemeanors, don't send violent juveniles
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- To adult court.
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- Never ask for cash bail.
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- Don't ask for life without parole.
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- Et cetera, et cetera, etc..
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- And what happens when they do that?
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- Crime explodes in their cities.
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- And so this is a dastardly plan.
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- And luckily, people like george gascon in la,
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- Chesa boudin in san francisco,
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- Kim fox in chicago, the first 1 in 2017,
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- Marilyn mosby in baltimore, some others left office.
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- The moral rois are still there.
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- The jose garza's down in austin, texas, are still there.
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- And so when trump decides he's going to go into these
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- Red states with blue cities who have violent crime problems,
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- He can cooperate and work with the governor
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- To bring up their state guard, to second them,
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- To the local police, to help make the arrests.
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- The real question in memphis is
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- They're going to make more arrests.
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- They're going to get bad guys in handcuffs.
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- But is mulroy going to finally do his job?
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- And when he doesn't, because they're not inclined to do it,
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- That puts a spotlight on what the real problem is.
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- He did that in d.c. that was great.
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- He threatened chicago.
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- The democratic governor wasn't going to play ball
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- With the national guard, and he probably was on legal,
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- Pretty strong ground on that one.
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- But in tennessee and other red states
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- With blue city murder problems,
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- You can do that and you can isolate what the problem is.
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- You know, it seems to
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- Me we've got almost a toxic soup started with an open border.
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- We had sanctuary cities.
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- We have cities now that want to enforce ice regulations.
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- We have prosecutors that ignore the laws
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- Or the penalties for breaking the laws.
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- This is a collection that makes all of us less safe,
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- Doesn't it?
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- 100%.
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- And now that trump
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- Has secured the border, and started,
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- An aggressive removal proceedings process,
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- You still have those cities with what i call the toxic trio.
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- Soros rogue prosecutor, the defund the police movement,
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- Or the ramifications of previous
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- Cuttings of their budgets, and then the dehumanizing
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- And demoralizing of the police force.
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- Dc here is down 800 officers
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- From their expected workforce size.
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- Other cities
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- Have defunded the police or cut back significantly.
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- And then when, of course, crime goes up,
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- They're like, wait, wait, wait, where's the police?
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- Well you city council,
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- You county council people, you cut their budgets.
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- And so look, there's a tried and true way to fight crime.
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- Ready prosecution.
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- Prosecutors should prosecute.
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- Defense counsel should defend.
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- Judges should judge.
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- Police officers should be well-trained and well funded.
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- Boom. when that happens.
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- And in cities where that happens,
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- Like san diego county where i used to be a prosecutor,
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- And when my wife was a prosecutor,
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- They didn't have this massive crime
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- Spike like you saw back in 2017.
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- And when the
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- George floyd riots happened, they didn't have a big spike.
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- That's because they had that that perfect setup
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- Of what you need to enforce good order and discipline
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- And the law in those cities.
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- You know, you've already mentioned that george
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- Soros and his son
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- Are behind the lax prosecutions that have helped
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- Create these dangers on the street.
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- President trump thinks he can begin to take down soros.
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- Listen to his comments.
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- We're going to look into source
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- Because i think it's a rico case against him and other people
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- Because this is more than like protests.
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- This is real agitation.
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- This is riots on the street.
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- Help us to understand what the president thinks
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- He can do about soros.
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- Well, read chapter two.
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- In our book,
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- We focused entirely on
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- The funding of the soros rogue prosecutors.
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- They they these he spent about $50 million
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- In direct campaigns, money which is a pittance,
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- But about a billion with a b
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- An indirect campaign funding just for the prosecutors alone.
- 00:12:56.235 --> 00:13:00.439
- And so, yes, there's protected free speech.
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- Yes, there's a freedom of association. yes,
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- I'm sure there's some lawful funding of lawful protests.
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- But, you know, to the extent that that the money is a quid
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- Pro quo, will give you this money
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- If you engage in these violent acts.
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- Well, then you've crossed the line
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- Either at the federal level
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- Under rico or the state law, state line or both.
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- And so facts are stubborn things.
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- As the old saying goes.
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- And you have to develop the facts.
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- And so you use grand juries, you use subpoenas,
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- You use cooperators, you use wiretaps,
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- You use all the lawful tools
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- Of the criminal justice system to get to the facts.
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- And that's what needs to start taking place.
- 00:13:41.914 --> 00:13:45.083
- Well, i'd
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- Like to ask about a few other outstanding matters.
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- Let's begin with the case that's being put together
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- On lisa cook,
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- The woman at the federal reserve
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- Who may have been involved in mortgage fraud.
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- You think the case against her
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- Will eventually force her to resign?
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- Could,
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- You know what you've never seen or heard her say is
- 00:14:00.699 --> 00:14:04.303
- I didn't do fill out those forms and lie.
- 00:14:04.303 --> 00:14:09.241
- You've never heard her make an absolute denial.
- 00:14:09.241 --> 00:14:12.311
- It's all about the process.
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- Or the processes.
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- Do or prejudge in the case.
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- But what i'm always interested in what's not said
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- In these defenses, and that's. and i was a defense lawyer.
- 00:14:20.419 --> 00:14:22.988
- I think it's great to be a defense lawyer,
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- But you never hear her come out and say, i didn't do it.
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- And so, yes, this, appeals court judge for the time
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- Being has said, no, you can't remove her before the fomc,
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- Considers a bip,
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- A 25 bip, in up in the interest rates,
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- Lowering the interest rates by 25 basis points this week.
- 00:14:40.839 --> 00:14:43.909
- But sooner or later, she's going to have her moment.
- 00:14:43.909 --> 00:14:48.413
- And what that moment means and the ramifications,
- 00:14:48.413 --> 00:14:51.450
- Are remain to be seen.
- 00:14:51.917 --> 00:14:53.251
- But i think if you like, like marilyn mosby,
- 00:14:53.251 --> 00:14:56.088
- The baltimore d.a.
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- Did on her two mortgage,
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- Mortgages she claimed were her primary residence in florida,
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- Even though she's the state's attorney in baltimore.
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- She got indicted by the feds.
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- The biden justice department prosecuted,
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- And she was convicted not only of perjury,
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- But also a mortgage fraud.
- 00:15:11.803 --> 00:15:13.538
- And so i don't know what's in store
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- In the future for lisa cook.
- 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:17.142
- But i've never heard her deny doing that.
- 00:15:17.142 --> 00:15:20.479
- Well, i always like to try to end on a good note.
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- The heritage office is right
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- Across the street from union station.
- 00:15:25.517 --> 00:15:27.953
- Washington is safe now.
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- Have you noticed a difference around town?
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- Yeah.
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- I don't get high,
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- From secondhand
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- Marijuana smoke when i walk in there
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- And i don't get accosted by homeless people.
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- And frankly,
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- It doesn't matter about me because i'm a military guy.
- 00:15:40.599 --> 00:15:42.367
- I grew up on a farm. i can handle myself.
- 00:15:42.367 --> 00:15:44.503
- But the young staff here, especially the female staff
- 00:15:44.503 --> 00:15:47.339
- Who are our interns and colleagues,
- 00:15:47.339 --> 00:15:49.341
- They feel safe there.
- 00:15:49.341 --> 00:15:51.610
- And that says a lot.
- 00:15:51.610 --> 00:15:52.711
- Now, look, dc still has a crime problem.
- 00:15:52.711 --> 00:15:55.013
- Kudos to trump and jeanine pirro, the u.s.
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- Attorney, for driving crime rates down.
- 00:15:57.582 --> 00:15:59.551
- But we still have 107 murders.
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- We still have over 3000, carjackings in this city.
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- And car thefts.
- 00:16:05.924 --> 00:16:07.092
- And so violent crime is down about 9%, year over year.
- 00:16:07.092 --> 00:16:12.998
- I'll be happy when the crime rate is at zero,
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- Because i think no murder is acceptable.
- 00:16:16.234 --> 00:16:18.870
- And so there's a lot of work to do.
- 00:16:18.870 --> 00:16:20.372
- But, look,
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- The house is considering passing some commonsense crime
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- Legislation like lowering the age of accountability
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- For violent juveniles to 14 who can be prosecuted as adults.
- 00:16:27.779 --> 00:16:31.516
- And by the way, 25 states have 14 and up,
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- Ten states below 14, three states have 12 and up
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- For the most violent crime. so dc is out of step.
- 00:16:37.789 --> 00:16:40.592
- And so they're headed in the right direction.
- 00:16:40.592 --> 00:16:42.060
- And thank god for trump and pirro
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- For pointing out once again where the weaknesses are.
- 00:16:43.695 --> 00:16:47.966
- Well, kelly
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- Stimpson, thank you for your time today.
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- Thanks for having me, alan.
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- We have learned a lot and we hope to have you back again.
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- We're going to read your book, rogue prosecutors.
- 00:16:55.140 --> 00:16:57.042
- It looks intriguing to me.
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- In a moment i'll have some hopeful rays of light of my own.
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- I promise.
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- I promise.
- 00:17:10.005 --> 00:17:14.527
- The assassination of charlie kirk
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- Took place at an outdoor event on a university campus in utah.
- 00:17:17.430 --> 00:17:21.567
- It was a state that has voted consistently republican.
- 00:17:21.567 --> 00:17:25.338
- You know, one would think a setting like that
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- Would be a safe haven for free speech
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- And the freedom to assemble peacefully.
- 00:17:28.841 --> 00:17:31.444
- However, before the event, an online
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- Petition was circulated asking university officials
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- To prevent charlie from speaking on campus that day.
- 00:17:35.915 --> 00:17:39.385
- The petition stated in part that, quote, charlie kirk
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- Is known for his divisive rhetoric
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- That often supports policies and laws
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- Which aren't inclusive and can marginalize various communities.
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- The petition that gathered more than 900 signatures,
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- The climate surrounding our universities has to change.
- 00:17:54.834 --> 00:17:58.171
- Our universities are intended to be places
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- For a free exchange of ideas, not uniformity of thought.
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- They've become indoctrination centers.
- 00:18:05.044 --> 00:18:08.014
- Charlie focused on the young people.
- 00:18:08.014 --> 00:18:10.049
- That's how i got to know him.
- 00:18:10.049 --> 00:18:11.751
- He would listen to these college students, share his beliefs
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- And engage with them in a dialog,
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- A conversation, and listening to their opinions.
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- He was respectful of those who disagreed, even with those
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- Who spewed hatred at him with some really awful names.
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- They call him fascist nazi, a purveyor of hate, a bigot,
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- A whole host of other things.
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- Well, those demanding that their viewpoints be tolerated.
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- We're very aggressively
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- Intolerant of perspectives which differed from their own.
- 00:18:36.008 --> 00:18:39.078
- We have a culture in crisis.
- 00:18:39.679 --> 00:18:41.847
- A 22 year old who disagreed with charlie's biblical stance
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- Murdered him.
- 00:18:45.618 --> 00:18:46.819
- Rather than engage in debate, he chose murder
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- After the shooting.
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- Some rejoiced at charlie's death.
- 00:18:50.890 --> 00:18:53.492
- So what can we do?
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- Well, i think one of the most important things we can do
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- Now is to present ourselves in public as a christ follower,
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- That we rearrange our calendars and our schedules
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- And our habits and our patterns.
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- To be sure we identify clearly and publicly with christ.
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- We'll do that.
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- There's reason for hope.
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- I'll be back with your emails.
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- I'll be back with your emails.
- 00:19:21.003 --> 00:19:25.425
- Thank you for taking the time to send us your emails.
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- They're always a highlight of the program.
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- Lupe from california commented,
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- I'm glad the issue is on health now.
- 00:19:33.033 --> 00:19:35.602
- I appreciate that this issue is being highlighted.
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- To make the public more aware,
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- You do have to ask the question of why
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- Europe doesn't want any of our food.
- 00:19:41.074 --> 00:19:43.043
- There are so many things added to our foods
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- That it has become toxic to.
- 00:19:44.945 --> 00:19:46.613
- Americans are the most unhealthy people on earth.
- 00:19:46.613 --> 00:19:48.882
- I hope and pray things will change for the better.
- 00:19:48.882 --> 00:19:52.019
- Well, i agree,
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- I think there's been a lot
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- Of disinformation, dishonesty, and just lying with
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- With regard to our food, even the food we are supposed to eat.
- 00:19:56.923 --> 00:20:00.460
- The recommendations have been coming to us,
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- But there's some waking up taking place and good news
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- Entering the public square. keep praying.
- 00:20:05.299 --> 00:20:07.034
- I think there's better things ahead,
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- Dixie from texas wrote in pastor allen.
- 00:20:09.603 --> 00:20:11.738
- I've been shocked at news reports
- 00:20:11.738 --> 00:20:13.240
- From people, teachers and politicians
- 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:15.375
- Celebrating the death of charlie kirk as more evil is exposed,
- 00:20:15.375 --> 00:20:19.179
- I'm beginning to see
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- Why our kids and young people are so full of hatred.
- 00:20:20.280 --> 00:20:23.150
- Well, i agree there's some unsettling things being exposed
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- About our universities and campuses.
- 00:20:25.952 --> 00:20:27.788
- It's time for some changes in higher education,
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- But when the light comes on,
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- I believe there's an opportunity for a better future
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- If we keep choosing the lord.
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- I promise you there's reasons for hope ahead of us.
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- Thanks for spending a few minutes with us.
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- I'm alan jackson and you have a wonderful evening.
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