Allen Jackson: Lawfare | Allen Jackson Now

July 8, 2025 | 21:37

Alex Marlow joins Allen Jackson to discuss law in the country.

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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Lawfare | Allen Jackson Now | July 8, 2025
  • Well.
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  • Good evening.
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  • I'm alan jackson, and welcome to nashville.
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  • An interesting thing happened recently
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  • When i was looking around to see who covered what in the news.
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  • I thought i was reading an article
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  • From the new york times
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  • That was actually complimentary about president trump.
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  • So i went back and read it again,
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  • Assuming that it was some sort of an ai generated spoof.
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  • Well, it turns out it wasn't a fake.
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  • The old gray lady is the paper was a nickname many years ago.
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  • Chose to report something positive.
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  • Actually, a series of positive accomplishments
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  • About the president that they only know how to criticize.
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  • The headline said from court to congress to the to the mideast.
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  • Trump tallies his wins.
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  • There are serious questions about the wisdom
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  • And the durability of his policies.
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  • Now that's the typical time slang.
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  • But on his terms, they wrote,
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  • He can point to a string of accomplishments.
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  • You know, of course we understand how it works.
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  • They try to insist the paper is full of real journalism.
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  • But in these tough times for the legacy media,
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  • What they're looking for is clicks to stay afloat.
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  • Of course,
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  • They're not the only ones chasing clicks,
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  • But they remain one of the most prominent.
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  • Which brings us to a leader in this new class of successful
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  • Truth telling news sites.
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  • The editor in chief, alex marlow of the breitbart news.
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  • In addition to running the site,
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  • Alex has published a number of bestselling books.
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  • His latest could not have been better timed.
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  • It's called breaking the law,
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  • Which is exactly what the deep state
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  • Was doing to president trump
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  • Until the supreme court weighed in,
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  • Ruling that local judges cannot stop the president's agenda.
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  • Welcome back, alex
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  • Castro.
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  • Always nice to be with you.
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  • And thank you for the gracious introduction.
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  • Well, it is always insightful
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  • When you take a few minutes with us.
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  • Tell us the case you made for breaking the law.
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  • It's a fascinating new book and how you got
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  • The supreme court to weigh in just as the book was published.
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  • Congratulations on your timing.
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  • Yeah.
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  • Unbelievable timing.
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  • It was starting to seem like things
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  • Were coming together for me in that front.
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  • I've written a couple other books,
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  • But none of them have hit the news cycle
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  • At the specific moment that this one is.
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  • In terms of relevance,
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  • I don't know,
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  • I guess i had to use my crystal brain to kind of
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  • Come up with a good topic now, but it was a
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  • It really started when i started
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  • To dig deep over a year ago into the lawfare
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  • Against president trump, these various trials
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  • Against him in various cases, civil, criminal,
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  • And starting to understand that things were much
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  • More severe than the media was letting on a lot of it.
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  • You're right to cite the new york times,
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  • But the emphasis across government,
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  • Across the judicial branch, which joe biden never wanted
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  • To be impartial,
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  • And the biden government and these district courts
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  • And the civil courts and the judgeships
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  • And these law schools,
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  • All of them had
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  • Been inputs into this process that was now trying to
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  • End our democracy as we know it, by preventing the former
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  • President and leading candidate for one
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  • Of the major political parties, donald trump,
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  • From being able to be a free man on election day.
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  • They wanted him behind bars
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  • And they thought they could do it,
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  • And if not that, they're going to bankrupt him in the process.
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  • Try to wear out his will, whatever
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  • It took
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  • To make sure that we could not
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  • Let our democracy play out and elect him.
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  • And i thought that we were almost
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  • Whistling past the graveyard a little bit.
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  • This was an existential threat to our country,
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  • And we were treating it
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  • As if it was just business as usual in the news.
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  • It was anything but.
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  • And so i started dig into it and try to see what i could
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  • Uncover in terms of coordination across branches of government,
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  • In trying to see how far back
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  • These players were, were tracking to put trump in jail.
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  • I'm talking about the money, the infrastructure.
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  • I call it the superstructure.
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  • The george soros is the reed hoffman's, the mark alliances
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  • And whether or not
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  • They were influential over these individual cases.
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  • And of course, they were the role
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  • The biden government played.
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  • Merrick garland,
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  • The attorney general, his deputies,
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  • The roles each of these individuals played, and how
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  • Trump somehow was able to beat them all in a way,
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  • Is one of the greatest stories imaginable.
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  • And somehow it got even more intense when trump won
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  • With all these lawfare district courts
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  • That were trying to upend
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  • And act as though they had a veto power
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  • Over the executive branch of the us government.
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  • All this subverts the will of the people and our democracy,
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  • And it's time we start taking it seriously.
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  • One of the things that's been most noticeable
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  • Is how so many decision makers were able to get away
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  • With the type of activity that the local judges did,
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  • And no one seemed to report on it for what it was
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  • Until places like breitbart news came along.
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  • Then my right in that perspective,
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  • You felt like a voice crying in the wilderness to me.
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  • That's how i felt.
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  • I felt like
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  • I was taking crazy pills someday because you would think that.
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  • Are these the media was cheering on as these judges, like judge
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  • Boasberg, would go in single
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  • Handedly block a key provision of the trump agenda
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  • And they would act like, this is great news.
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  • It's terrible news.
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  • Just the suggestion that a district judge
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  • That is supposed to be confined to a district
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  • Would be able to have a veto over the executive
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  • Branch of the us government.
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  • The one office we elect as a national government
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  • Is the president of the united states.
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  • Every other thing we vote for is either local or statewide.
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  • We don't vote for anything else
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  • Nationally other than the president.
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  • Our nation picked donald trump to be the leader.
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  • And for a district court judge that none of us had ever
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  • Heard of, unless, of course, we read that they block trump.
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  • For them to veto huge portions of the agenda
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  • Was, of course, unacceptable.
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  • And yet we were just treating it
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  • As if it was just one of those things.
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  • No, that has to stop and justice must be brought.
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  • There was another tool among the deep state
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  • Players in this particular case, one used by the former cia
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  • Director, john brennan,
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  • Who did everything he could to help advance the made
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  • Up russia collusion tale about candidate trump.
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  • Listen to how he pitched his tale to congress.
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  • I encountered,
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  • And i'm aware of information and intelligence that,
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  • Revealed contacts and interactions between
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  • Russian officials and u.s.
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  • Persons involved in the trump campaign.
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  • Frequently, individuals who go along that treasonous path
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  • Do not even realize they're along that path
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  • Until it gets to be a bit too late.
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  • You know?
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  • Of course, brennan's
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  • Media friends went along with it,
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  • So it quickly took on a life of its own.
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  • That is, until the truth came out
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  • That brennan made up his own narrative
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  • To try to end the trump campaign.
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  • Now he's facing possible perjury charges
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  • For unilaterally deciding
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  • To include the discredited steele dossier in his report.
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  • What kind of trouble is he really in?
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  • I'm hoping big trouble.
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  • You don't want to get john
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  • Ratcliffe's attention, and he's got it.
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  • I actually interviewed jim jordan,
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  • Who runs the house judiciary yesterday
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  • And asked what he thinks is going to happen.
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  • He said all options are on the table here, but
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  • It looks like we've got brennan in perjury, dead to rights.
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  • I mean, that's what it appears.
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  • I will caveat it for any attorneys watching.
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  • I don't want to get you in trouble, pastor.
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  • But it appears like we got the guy. and,
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  • What are the consequences?
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  • I don't know exactly, but perjury is a serious thing,
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  • Especially when it's done to subvert the u.s government.
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  • So, i don't know, as a non attorney,
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  • What are the limitations on where things can go,
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  • But certainly revealing
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  • To the public that this guy who is leading our cia
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  • And then doing the commentary in the media
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  • As if he was neutral,
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  • Was essentially an agent of chaos in this country?
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  • I think it's very worthwhile that we pursue this
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  • To the fullest extent we can to get justice
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  • For the people affected.
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  • Well, one more question before we take a short break.
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  • Trust of the old media continues to drop.
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  • So does viewership.
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  • There's liberalism so deeply in their bloodstream
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  • That they'll continue in this sinking ship
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  • Until they become entirely irrelevant.
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  • Yeah, i think so.
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  • I can't believe one thing we're tracking of breitbart,
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  • Where they've got a new superman movie
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  • Coming out, and we can't stop talking about
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  • How if you go woke, you go broke.
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  • While the new superman change the motto from truth, justice,
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  • And the american way
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  • To truth, justice and all those good things.
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  • And the director and the director's brother,
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  • Who's an actor in the movie,
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  • Were saying that you're a jerk if you don't like this movie,
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  • And this movie's all about immigration
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  • And how we've lost our sense of kindness
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  • To immigrants, and it's just all of this woke stuff.
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  • The thing hasn't even come out yet, you know,
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  • That's going to make the movie tank.
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  • We've seen this movie over and over again,
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  • Figuratively speaking.
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  • Whenever you say that stuff, no one goes your movie
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  • And they can't help themselves.
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  • I think there's a cognitive dissonance for the last pastor
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  • Where they believe all these things so deeply
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  • And they don't work.
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  • They don't play out the way they do in their brains,
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  • And they see themselves losing ground
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  • In every major demographic
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  • To more traditional, more conservative values.
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  • And they must be driving themselves crazy over it.
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  • And i think that explains
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  • A lot of their erratic behavior over the last six months.
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  • Well, i like let's take a short break now
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  • And please stay for another segment.
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  • I want to ask you about the new york mayor's race,
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  • Which is sadly a sign of the times from the democrats.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We're back now with the editor in chief of breitbart news
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  • And the host of the alex marlow podcast,
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  • Just one of the democrats.
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  • We're heading to a stage of almost total irrelevance.
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  • Along comes a socialist democrat for new york.
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  • Mayor andrew cuomo assumed that he would get the nomination,
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  • But he lost to a guy by the name of zoran mamdani,
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  • And now he's got the backing
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  • Of one of the country's legacy liberals, bernie sanders.
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  • Listen to these comments.
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  • It was one of the great political victories
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  • In modern history, as ron ran a brilliant campaign at a time
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  • When families can't afford decent quality food.
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  • He's talking about
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  • Helping to create publicly funded grocery stores
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  • So that people kids,
  • 00:09:59.689 --> 00:10:01.257
  • Can get food that's affordable, making busses free.
  • 00:10:01.257 --> 00:10:04.560
  • He's giving people a positive agenda.
  • 00:10:04.560 --> 00:10:08.698
  • A positive
  • 00:10:08.998 --> 00:10:09.965
  • Agenda, none of which he can make good on.
  • 00:10:09.965 --> 00:10:13.169
  • First, he tried producing rap music.
  • 00:10:13.169 --> 00:10:15.237
  • Then he tried to get into a university
  • 00:10:15.237 --> 00:10:17.139
  • By lying about his race,
  • 00:10:17.139 --> 00:10:19.175
  • Saying he was black, african american and asian.
  • 00:10:19.175 --> 00:10:22.978
  • Alex, it reminds me a bit of elizabeth
  • 00:10:22.978 --> 00:10:24.547
  • Warren claiming that she's part american indian.
  • 00:10:24.547 --> 00:10:28.017
  • Can they really flourish
  • 00:10:28.017 --> 00:10:29.218
  • In the midst of this kind of deception?
  • 00:10:29.218 --> 00:10:31.787
  • No, no, they're he's cosplaying.
  • 00:10:31.787 --> 00:10:34.523
  • It's funny because he comes. he's an elite guy.
  • 00:10:34.523 --> 00:10:36.992
  • He had parents who were professors.
  • 00:10:36.992 --> 00:10:38.794
  • He's only been in the country for a few years.
  • 00:10:38.794 --> 00:10:40.663
  • He was and wasn't born here.
  • 00:10:40.663 --> 00:10:42.431
  • And one thing that is really striking to me is his teeth.
  • 00:10:42.431 --> 00:10:45.034
  • You guys got all
  • 00:10:45.034 --> 00:10:46.168
  • Got to check out his teeth, their toilet bowl white,
  • 00:10:46.168 --> 00:10:48.237
  • And you don't get that color unless you've used
  • 00:10:48.237 --> 00:10:50.973
  • Some real hardcore cosmetic dentistry.
  • 00:10:50.973 --> 00:10:53.676
  • And they're not dull those out
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  • In socialist and communist countries.
  • 00:10:55.010 --> 00:10:56.479
  • I mean, that is a product of pure capitalism.
  • 00:10:56.479 --> 00:10:58.414
  • This guy is the biggest phony period.
  • 00:10:58.414 --> 00:11:00.316
  • And i kind of love to see it.
  • 00:11:00.316 --> 00:11:01.917
  • I think new york's been on a bad track.
  • 00:11:01.917 --> 00:11:03.953
  • Governor cuomo is responsible for a lot of death.
  • 00:11:03.953 --> 00:11:06.055
  • Was the nursing home policy for covid.
  • 00:11:06.055 --> 00:11:07.690
  • So i wouldn't want him to be the mayor either.
  • 00:11:07.690 --> 00:11:09.792
  • And this whole thing with government
  • 00:11:09.792 --> 00:11:11.894
  • Grocery stores, pastor, you know where it comes from.
  • 00:11:11.894 --> 00:11:14.029
  • He misread a budget item.
  • 00:11:14.029 --> 00:11:15.631
  • He saw that there was all this money
  • 00:11:15.631 --> 00:11:17.099
  • Getting allocated to the corporate grocery stores.
  • 00:11:17.099 --> 00:11:20.069
  • And he thought, well, let's just reallocate
  • 00:11:20.069 --> 00:11:21.470
  • To government grocery stores.
  • 00:11:21.470 --> 00:11:22.571
  • He misread it. there isn't that much money.
  • 00:11:22.571 --> 00:11:24.340
  • There's no way he could pull that off.
  • 00:11:24.340 --> 00:11:25.975
  • And bernie sanders, who's proven to be a big dope
  • 00:11:25.975 --> 00:11:28.811
  • He's just congratulating for.
  • 00:11:28.811 --> 00:11:30.479
  • It's a terrible policy.
  • 00:11:30.479 --> 00:11:31.647
  • He wants more housing projects.
  • 00:11:31.647 --> 00:11:33.716
  • So how are those gone in this country?
  • 00:11:33.716 --> 00:11:35.684
  • They end up looking
  • 00:11:35.684 --> 00:11:36.485
  • More like the tv show the wire
  • 00:11:36.485 --> 00:11:38.521
  • Than some sort of thriving community.
  • 00:11:38.521 --> 00:11:40.523
  • It is.
  • 00:11:40.523 --> 00:11:41.590
  • Capitalism is the best system that we can have.
  • 00:11:41.590 --> 00:11:43.926
  • It's not great.
  • 00:11:44.293 --> 00:11:45.294
  • It's imperfect.
  • 00:11:45.294 --> 00:11:46.228
  • We've got huge wealth gaps in this country
  • 00:11:46.228 --> 00:11:47.930
  • That i admire, people
  • 00:11:47.930 --> 00:11:49.265
  • Who want to take on those issues in a serious way.
  • 00:11:49.265 --> 00:11:51.734
  • But this is a deeply unserious and inauthentic charlatan.
  • 00:11:51.734 --> 00:11:55.137
  • And if new york votes for him, then that's what they deserve.
  • 00:11:55.137 --> 00:11:58.007
  • Well, you know, i'm old enough to remember the reports
  • 00:11:58.007 --> 00:12:00.142
  • And the videos of the stores,
  • 00:12:00.142 --> 00:12:01.777
  • The grocery stores in the former soviet union.
  • 00:12:01.777 --> 00:12:04.246
  • Their shelves were not full and the people were hungry.
  • 00:12:04.246 --> 00:12:07.149
  • Socialism is a failed experiment.
  • 00:12:07.149 --> 00:12:09.318
  • We can't forget that, can we
  • 00:12:09.318 --> 00:12:11.654
  • Know?
  • 00:12:11.887 --> 00:12:12.822
  • And where do you think when you associate
  • 00:12:12.822 --> 00:12:15.024
  • Government grocery stores with old soviet union,
  • 00:12:15.024 --> 00:12:17.226
  • North korea, cuba,
  • 00:12:17.226 --> 00:12:18.627
  • Not thriving places where people are dying to move
  • 00:12:18.627 --> 00:12:21.697
  • In are beacons of freedom and hope?
  • 00:12:21.697 --> 00:12:23.766
  • No, they're
  • 00:12:23.766 --> 00:12:25.000
  • They're beacons of destitution and oligarchy, where you have
  • 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:28.003
  • This class of elite
  • 00:12:28.003 --> 00:12:29.371
  • That are constantly lecturing and hectoring.
  • 00:12:29.371 --> 00:12:31.841
  • The general public about how great they've got it
  • 00:12:31.841 --> 00:12:34.743
  • When they're confiscating all their wealth.
  • 00:12:34.743 --> 00:12:36.345
  • It's a terrible experiment, is never worked.
  • 00:12:36.345 --> 00:12:38.747
  • And if new york
  • 00:12:38.747 --> 00:12:39.915
  • Wants to have this flirtation, then i'm very curious
  • 00:12:39.915 --> 00:12:42.218
  • To see how far they will take it,
  • 00:12:42.218 --> 00:12:43.452
  • Because will they buy into this guy's clear shtick?
  • 00:12:43.452 --> 00:12:46.889
  • He's completely inauthentic.
  • 00:12:46.889 --> 00:12:48.657
  • Or will someone come around and point that out?
  • 00:12:48.657 --> 00:12:51.293
  • That's all they got to do.
  • 00:12:51.293 --> 00:12:52.494
  • Just point out this guy's a phony and i think you lose.
  • 00:12:52.494 --> 00:12:55.030
  • Well, while we're out on the fringe of democratic politics.
  • 00:12:55.030 --> 00:12:58.334
  • Do you want to comment on how aoc is being included
  • 00:12:58.334 --> 00:13:00.769
  • In the short list of future democrats to keep an eye on?
  • 00:13:00.769 --> 00:13:04.139
  • It makes perfect sense because she's got charisma
  • 00:13:04.139 --> 00:13:06.508
  • And none of them actually have charisma.
  • 00:13:06.508 --> 00:13:08.110
  • If you look at their party, it's run by all them.
  • 00:13:08.110 --> 00:13:10.846
  • Popular people who are have haven't
  • 00:13:10.846 --> 00:13:13.916
  • Had a real job in decades if they ever have one at all.
  • 00:13:13.916 --> 00:13:16.318
  • You can add on to that.
  • 00:13:16.318 --> 00:13:17.353
  • By the way, i don't think he ever had a real job.
  • 00:13:17.353 --> 00:13:19.588
  • And she's got a way of being able to channel the youth
  • 00:13:19.588 --> 00:13:23.158
  • And enthusiasm and energy that is to be taken seriously.
  • 00:13:23.158 --> 00:13:26.695
  • The energy is be taken seriously,
  • 00:13:26.695 --> 00:13:28.931
  • But i don't think that she's particularly authentic,
  • 00:13:28.931 --> 00:13:31.834
  • And i don't think that she's got a slate of issues
  • 00:13:31.834 --> 00:13:34.470
  • That are popular on a piecemeal basis.
  • 00:13:34.470 --> 00:13:37.640
  • The reason why people would be excited about her
  • 00:13:37.640 --> 00:13:39.842
  • Is because gavin newsom's
  • 00:13:39.842 --> 00:13:41.543
  • In a terrible job leading the state of california.
  • 00:13:41.543 --> 00:13:43.779
  • Pete buttigieg is a big nothing.
  • 00:13:43.779 --> 00:13:45.414
  • Kamala harris is not a particularly bright person
  • 00:13:45.414 --> 00:13:47.783
  • Or a skilled politician, as we learned.
  • 00:13:47.783 --> 00:13:49.919
  • So who are they going to go to in there?
  • 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:52.087
  • Their bench is very thin on the republican side.
  • 00:13:52.087 --> 00:13:54.823
  • Our bench is very deep.
  • 00:13:54.823 --> 00:13:55.858
  • The 10th best republican right now
  • 00:13:55.858 --> 00:13:57.993
  • Is leaps and bounds ahead of the most talented
  • 00:13:57.993 --> 00:14:00.095
  • Political democrat at the moment.
  • 00:14:00.095 --> 00:14:02.031
  • That is a big opportunity for us, pastor.
  • 00:14:02.031 --> 00:14:03.766
  • So that's positive news in my view.
  • 00:14:03.766 --> 00:14:06.168
  • Alex,
  • 00:14:06.168 --> 00:14:06.602
  • There's there's
  • 00:14:06.602 --> 00:14:07.303
  • Something of an unholy alliance
  • 00:14:07.303 --> 00:14:08.804
  • Between some of the democratic leaders and the legacy media
  • 00:14:08.804 --> 00:14:12.007
  • In their attempts to stir up violence against ice.
  • 00:14:12.007 --> 00:14:15.077
  • And it seems to be gaining some traction.
  • 00:14:15.077 --> 00:14:17.479
  • How do we walk this back to keep those people safe
  • 00:14:17.479 --> 00:14:19.715
  • That are watching over our borders?
  • 00:14:19.715 --> 00:14:22.017
  • Yeah, this is a huge portion of breaking the law.
  • 00:14:22.017 --> 00:14:24.386
  • So thank you for for giving me a chance
  • 00:14:24.386 --> 00:14:26.488
  • To suggest that the democrats do not care about law and order.
  • 00:14:26.488 --> 00:14:30.492
  • This struck me when i was at berkeley.
  • 00:14:30.492 --> 00:14:32.127
  • And there's a club are called by any means necessary, which is
  • 00:14:32.127 --> 00:14:35.998
  • It was mostly about race based preferences
  • 00:14:35.998 --> 00:14:37.866
  • And affirmative action jobs and stuff like that.
  • 00:14:37.866 --> 00:14:39.868
  • But i always was struck by that phrase by any means necessary,
  • 00:14:39.868 --> 00:14:43.772
  • Like violence, like shooting a guy in butler, pennsylvania.
  • 00:14:43.772 --> 00:14:47.009
  • Any means necessary.
  • 00:14:47.009 --> 00:14:48.277
  • That's how they feel about their politics.
  • 00:14:48.277 --> 00:14:50.779
  • It's so important to them
  • 00:14:50.779 --> 00:14:52.181
  • That they are willing to use violence.
  • 00:14:52.181 --> 00:14:53.882
  • We saw a memo.
  • 00:14:53.882 --> 00:14:54.817
  • The democrats are trying to get arrested.
  • 00:14:54.817 --> 00:14:56.518
  • They're anticipating more violence against ice.
  • 00:14:56.518 --> 00:14:58.854
  • They congratulate it on tiktok
  • 00:14:58.854 --> 00:15:00.889
  • And some of these social media platforms.
  • 00:15:00.889 --> 00:15:02.591
  • You see normal people
  • 00:15:02.591 --> 00:15:03.692
  • Calling for violence against people
  • 00:15:03.692 --> 00:15:05.427
  • Who are just trying to enforce our laws.
  • 00:15:05.427 --> 00:15:07.529
  • They have a deep ghoulish ness to the internal workings,
  • 00:15:07.529 --> 00:15:11.000
  • The democrat party.
  • 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:12.067
  • We saw it with these floods over the weekend,
  • 00:15:12.067 --> 00:15:14.136
  • So many people rushing to their computers
  • 00:15:14.136 --> 00:15:16.238
  • In their phones
  • 00:15:16.238 --> 00:15:17.306
  • To tell you how they wanted to blame donald trump.
  • 00:15:17.306 --> 00:15:20.142
  • They were relishing in the death of christian children.
  • 00:15:20.142 --> 00:15:22.711
  • All because of why?
  • 00:15:22.711 --> 00:15:23.879
  • Because they thought they could use it
  • 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:25.014
  • For their political gains.
  • 00:15:25.014 --> 00:15:26.415
  • There is a deep demonic tendency that dwells
  • 00:15:26.415 --> 00:15:28.851
  • Within a lot of the hearts of people on the left,
  • 00:15:28.851 --> 00:15:30.819
  • And it's something to be feared and to be taken seriously.
  • 00:15:30.819 --> 00:15:33.188
  • We have to defeat these people.
  • 00:15:33.188 --> 00:15:35.457
  • Now, it's uncomfortable to hear some of the comments
  • 00:15:35.457 --> 00:15:37.559
  • About the tragedies in texas.
  • 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:39.595
  • To blame those on politicians or political choices
  • 00:15:39.595 --> 00:15:42.064
  • Is beyond absurd. it's unthinkable. we can't accept it.
  • 00:15:42.064 --> 00:15:45.734
  • That's right.
  • 00:15:46.101 --> 00:15:47.302
  • Well, alex, thank you for your book
  • 00:15:47.302 --> 00:15:49.405
  • And keep up the great work.
  • 00:15:49.405 --> 00:15:50.939
  • Remember, if you haven't yet got a copy,
  • 00:15:50.939 --> 00:15:52.708
  • The new book is called breaking the law.
  • 00:15:52.708 --> 00:15:54.777
  • You can order it anywhere, and i hope you will.
  • 00:15:54.777 --> 00:15:57.413
  • We'll certainly have alex back again soon.
  • 00:15:57.413 --> 00:16:00.916
  • In a moment, a note on the tragedy.
  • 00:16:00.916 --> 00:16:02.885
  • The extraordinary tragedy in central texas.
  • 00:16:02.885 --> 00:16:12.000
  • The extraordinary tragedy in central texas.
  • 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:15.900
  • And i want to speak to the disaster in texas,
  • 00:16:16.867 --> 00:16:19.670
  • The once in a century flooding
  • 00:16:19.670 --> 00:16:21.138
  • That has taken the lives of more than 100 people,
  • 00:16:21.138 --> 00:16:24.208
  • Including many young people from a christian camp.
  • 00:16:24.208 --> 00:16:27.078
  • We're hearing so many stories coming from that area.
  • 00:16:27.078 --> 00:16:29.713
  • It feels personal to me.
  • 00:16:29.713 --> 00:16:30.681
  • The hill country of texas is beautiful.
  • 00:16:30.681 --> 00:16:33.117
  • And for several summers, i would visit that area of texas
  • 00:16:33.117 --> 00:16:36.454
  • And help some friends that had ranches there.
  • 00:16:36.454 --> 00:16:38.389
  • I was just there to do chores and whatever
  • 00:16:38.389 --> 00:16:40.224
  • I could to add a little manual labor to the cause.
  • 00:16:40.224 --> 00:16:43.360
  • But watching these stories of tragedy
  • 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:45.262
  • Come from that beautiful part of the state of texas.
  • 00:16:45.262 --> 00:16:47.865
  • It's really been overwhelming,
  • 00:16:47.865 --> 00:16:49.700
  • Particularly to know that there are children
  • 00:16:49.700 --> 00:16:51.402
  • In the center of that story.
  • 00:16:51.402 --> 00:16:53.304
  • There are so many emotions that come.
  • 00:16:53.304 --> 00:16:54.738
  • We hear of the heroic efforts of those
  • 00:16:54.738 --> 00:16:56.440
  • That are working on the rescue teams,
  • 00:16:56.440 --> 00:16:58.142
  • Working around the clock and through the night, doing
  • 00:16:58.142 --> 00:17:00.377
  • Everything they can to find any survivors, to comfort families.
  • 00:17:00.377 --> 00:17:04.315
  • The response of the leaders of texas in extraordinary ways,
  • 00:17:04.315 --> 00:17:07.718
  • Even from washington, the support they needed.
  • 00:17:07.718 --> 00:17:09.587
  • It seems that it has been truly a unified effort,
  • 00:17:09.587 --> 00:17:12.890
  • Which is not always normal in these circumstances.
  • 00:17:12.890 --> 00:17:16.594
  • And then you've got the lunatic fringe.
  • 00:17:16.594 --> 00:17:18.195
  • We hear the voices of people
  • 00:17:18.195 --> 00:17:19.497
  • Trying to blame it on political choices.
  • 00:17:19.497 --> 00:17:22.299
  • You know, i'm grateful to see us work together,
  • 00:17:22.299 --> 00:17:24.502
  • And there's something unifying
  • 00:17:24.502 --> 00:17:26.070
  • That comes out of these tragic circumstances.
  • 00:17:26.070 --> 00:17:29.540
  • But i want to offer a suggestion before we go.
  • 00:17:29.540 --> 00:17:31.375
  • I want to pray for all those families involved.
  • 00:17:31.375 --> 00:17:33.410
  • But i want to make a suggestion.
  • 00:17:33.410 --> 00:17:35.746
  • Let's decide not just to be unified by tragedies.
  • 00:17:35.746 --> 00:17:39.316
  • You know,
  • 00:17:39.617 --> 00:17:40.718
  • I believe we have much to be thankful for as a people.
  • 00:17:40.718 --> 00:17:43.320
  • We have challenges and we will continue
  • 00:17:43.320 --> 00:17:45.156
  • To have natural disasters.
  • 00:17:45.156 --> 00:17:46.590
  • They're a part of our journey under the sun.
  • 00:17:46.590 --> 00:17:49.126
  • But we are a blessed people.
  • 00:17:49.126 --> 00:17:50.728
  • We have food to eat, we have shelter.
  • 00:17:50.728 --> 00:17:53.197
  • We have clothing, we have resources.
  • 00:17:53.197 --> 00:17:55.099
  • In the midst of natural disasters,
  • 00:17:55.099 --> 00:17:57.134
  • We could do better practicing our gratitude, being grateful.
  • 00:17:57.134 --> 00:18:01.639
  • We're so polarized, we're so quick to complain
  • 00:18:01.639 --> 00:18:04.909
  • And to criticize
  • 00:18:04.909 --> 00:18:06.477
  • And to try to blame our circumstances
  • 00:18:06.477 --> 00:18:08.445
  • On someone else, and to proclaim our entitlement to something
  • 00:18:08.445 --> 00:18:11.749
  • That we forfeit the joy of so many of our days.
  • 00:18:11.749 --> 00:18:14.852
  • And we're watching the images
  • 00:18:14.852 --> 00:18:16.153
  • Of these families struck
  • 00:18:16.153 --> 00:18:17.121
  • By tragedies, parents pulling up to camps
  • 00:18:17.121 --> 00:18:19.223
  • Where they left their children a few days earlier,
  • 00:18:19.223 --> 00:18:21.559
  • And there's nobody to jump in the back of the suv.
  • 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:24.395
  • It's really personal to us.
  • 00:18:24.395 --> 00:18:25.629
  • We do a series of summer camps here in our own congregation,
  • 00:18:25.629 --> 00:18:28.199
  • And i've watched hundreds and hundreds of children
  • 00:18:28.199 --> 00:18:31.168
  • Head off to camp,
  • 00:18:31.168 --> 00:18:32.169
  • Some on our own campus, and the parents come,
  • 00:18:32.169 --> 00:18:34.038
  • And the excitement and enthusiasm.
  • 00:18:34.038 --> 00:18:36.707
  • I can't imagine the tragedy of losing one child.
  • 00:18:36.707 --> 00:18:39.777
  • I want to pray for those families.
  • 00:18:39.777 --> 00:18:41.045
  • I want to ask you to join me in that,
  • 00:18:41.045 --> 00:18:42.546
  • In the midst of the tragedy.
  • 00:18:42.546 --> 00:18:44.181
  • Let's begin to quietly say thank you to god.
  • 00:18:44.181 --> 00:18:47.418
  • He's blessed our lives,
  • 00:18:47.418 --> 00:18:49.119
  • And for the most part, we've been ungrateful.
  • 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:51.422
  • Let's pray.
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  • Father, i thank you
  • 00:18:52.489 --> 00:18:53.924
  • That even in the midst of tragedy that you've promised,
  • 00:18:53.924 --> 00:18:56.026
  • You're close to the brokenhearted.
  • 00:18:56.026 --> 00:18:57.995
  • I pray for your intervention for each of these families
  • 00:18:57.995 --> 00:19:00.264
  • That have suffered loss.
  • 00:19:00.264 --> 00:19:01.799
  • I pray that you'll bring comfort for those that are exhausted.
  • 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:04.802
  • Bring strength.
  • 00:19:04.802 --> 00:19:06.170
  • And, lord, in the midst of this,
  • 00:19:06.170 --> 00:19:07.204
  • May we step together as a people
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  • To make a better future for all of us
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  • And understand that we are one nation under god,
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  • Indivisible, with liberty and freedom for all.
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  • In jesus name, amen.
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  • I'll be back in just a moment with a closing thought.
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  • I'll be back in just a moment with a closing thought.
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  • You know, i want to thank you for spending
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  • A few minutes with us this evening.
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  • We face tragedies as a nation, and i'm certain
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  • That we will face more in the future.
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  • But our faith and standing together
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  • In a confidence in the living god
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  • That gives us a pathway forward, even in those seasons.
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  • And we have broken hearts.
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  • Do you ever happen to miss an episode?
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  • You can go to aj now.com.
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  • There's an archive there with all of the programs.
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  • Makes them easy to share with a friend.
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  • That helps us all.
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  • Again, thank you for sharing
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  • A few minutes with us this evening.
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  • I'm alan jackson and i pray you have a wonderful night.
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