Rep. Ralph Norman joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Leverage Politics | Allen Jackson Now | November 5, 2025
- Good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- It's a very strange time in the nation's capital.
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- By almost every measure, republicans
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- Are taking care of the issues that americans want addressed.
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- And the democrats,
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- They're fighting them every step of the way.
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- Fighting not just the president,
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- But the republicans in congress, too.
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- The country is more safe.
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- And could anyone not think that's a good thing?
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- Gas prices are still dropping.
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- Interest rates are going down.
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- Wars are being settled.
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- American troops are safe.
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- Foreign businesses are investing in the u.s.,
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- And those plants will create new jobs here.
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- And some big american businesses are being saved
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- By putting in place equitable tariffs on those countries
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- That have undermined the best of what we produce.
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- Well, the list goes on.
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- So why are the democrats pushing back
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- On an american agenda that's bringing hope to so many people?
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- And why have democrats shut down the government
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- To try to spend more taxpayer money on health care
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- Benefits for people who are here illegally, and for others
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- Who want to extend the expensive covid level rates?
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- It makes no sense.
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- Well, before i introduce our guest, let me ask,
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- Do you know anyone who wants to take 20, 30 or close to $40
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- From every hundred
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- They make and pay for someone else's health care,
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- Especially for someone who is here illegally
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- And not paying any tax of their own.
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- Were you ever asked to vote and approve such a thing?
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- Or are the democrats trying to use your money
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- To buy themselves more votes in the next elections?
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- It's a sad and dangerous game the democratic party is playing,
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- And one that will not end well.
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- Well, joining us tonight to discuss it
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- All is republican congressman ralph norman of south carolina.
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- Welcome back congressman.
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- Well, glad to be with you, alan.
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- My pleasure.
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- You saw what the democrats had in mind already
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- When you published a quote from the democrat catherine clark,
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- Who said, and i quote of course there will be families
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- That are going to suffer.
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- But it is one of the few leverage times we have.
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- So she admitted that people will suffer children
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- To with no food stamp benefits to put dinner on their table,
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- But they get the leverage now.
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- Her words
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- Have you spoken to any of your democratic colleagues
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- About how wrong and how dangerous that is?
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- You know, i really haven't.
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- Because there's no use.
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- You know, they're disconnected from reality.
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- And they were serious.
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- The word leverage, has no boundaries.
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- And where they're starving women and children
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- Through the whip program or through the snap program,
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- They're in danger in 42 million people all across this country.
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- And, simply, they do not care.
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- They just don't.
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- They're scared of
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- The radical base has been taken over by marxist socialists.
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- And, it's a scary time to see what's happened,
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- All over this country.
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- And, as one, we've got to protect
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- Our freedoms here in south carolina to prevent
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- What has happened in california, oregon, new york,
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- And so many other states that you know, at one time were
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- Booming, states that were vibrant,
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- They had great beaches, they had great economies.
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- Not so now with leadership.
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- And it shows you the danger of liberal leadership.
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- Well, you put up one of the smartest constitutional
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- Amendment proposals ever seen in washington.
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- An amendment
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- That would force the congress to stop paying itself
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- If there was a government shutdown, where
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- Other government workers weren't getting paid.
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- You said this, quote that i love.
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- Only in washington do people think
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- You deserve a paycheck for not doing your job,
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- And then you got help from the of all places.
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- Abc's the view.
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- Listen to sara haines with bernie sanders.
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- Right now, it's hard to imagine.
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- It's incentivized.
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- It's easier for the politicians in dc
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- To go away from each other
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- And say, we will win this way
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- While people are losing their paychecks.
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- If congress just said, we're not going
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- To take our paychecks, do we figure this out?
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- That would be a noble step in the right direction, i think.
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- Not everybody can afford to do.
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- Some young people day with kids.
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- Either can the people that aren't getting paid, though.
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- Did you ever think
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- You'd have anyone from the view on your side?
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- You know,
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- No, i didn't, and to have the response that he gave
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- Is really unfathomable.
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- That that shows you the
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- There is a missing link with them connecting
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- And thinking that they're above basically above everybody else.
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- They are the elite establishment.
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- And, anything could be true if you were serving as i am
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- In the u.s. congress.
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- You know, you just wonder how these people,
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- Have gotten to the place that they have
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- That's doing so much damage to this country.
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- And shutdown is just a
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- Preview of coming attractions if they get by with it.
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- And, i don't think bernie sanders realizes
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- What he's saying that puts him above everybody else.
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- And, saying that is it can happen to anybody else
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- But members of congress, which is really unbelievable.
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- Well, congressman, you
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- Have openly supported the peace plan for the middle east,
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- Telling your constituents that world peace
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- Is achieved through strength, not weakness.
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- Even now, steps are being taken to put together a
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- Peacekeeping force to make sure that hamas doesn't resurface.
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- Do you think the president
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- Will be able to bring peace to ukraine as well?
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- You know, actually i do.
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- And i tell you, we owe the president a debt of gratitude
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- For taking out the number one sponsor of terror, iran,
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- The way he did versus the biden administration, which,
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- The billions of dollars in cash that he paid them
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- As a bribe to like us, which was not going to happen.
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- But no, the president understands what he's doing.
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- His words mean something which for, unlike
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- The prior administration, would biden and really obama.
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- But, yeah, i think it will.
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- I think it's going to take some, you know, some work.
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- Hamas has control gaza for a long time.
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- And, but at the end of the day,
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- Between the work that israel is doing and work that
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- The aid that united states under donald trump will give,
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- I think we'll have a,
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- Have a difference, and i think he'll be successful with it.
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- Well, putin has been trying to up
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- The ante by talking more about his nuclear weapons.
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- President trump has said that the united states
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- Will need to resume nuclear testing
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- Because of russia and china.
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- This is certainly peace through strength.
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- But at what point do you get
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- Nervous about the nuclear escalation?
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- Well, i'll tell you this.
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- Under the biden administration, i was extremely nervous.
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- You know, for years, we had an incompetent man
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- That wasn't all there, other than he's also been.
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- You know, i don't know who was running the country.
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- What? biden.
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- It was probably some of his,
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- You know, the people that worked with him.
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- But now i worry every day, but with with donald trump, he
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- He just knows the world.
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- He knows our enemies, and he knows how to deal with it.
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- The, the, biden administration never cut the the did
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- The sanctions
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- That, president trump is doing, like, cut the hole all from,
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- And it's it's a, it's a new day there.
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- And, you've been to the middle east
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- Many times, and it's a it's a powder keg,
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- But i just feel a lot safer with what president trump's doing.
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- Amen.
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- Well, president trump
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- Gets points for doing more each week
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- Than some presidents do in a month or more.
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- But i wonder if the voters are able to digest all the change
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- And they'll remember what's gotten done
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- When they vote in the midterms a year from now.
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- I sure hope so.
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- And i mean, i wish,
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- I wish every american could have been,
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- Who had been in the halls of congress
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- When the president took the oval office.
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- You could hear a pin drop.
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- He laid out his agenda.
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- And in 11 months, ten boxes, he's achieved the agenda.
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- He started this country around like no one thought they could.
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- But 77 million people put their their hope and their vote.
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- And a man that's a captured everything.
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- He said the promise to seize by these keeping.
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- And so,
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- You know, we got three more years and,
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- You know, he'll do great things for
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- For america and he'll keep us safe.
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- And, i think the economy will show.
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- And i think the american people ultimately appreciate
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- What congressman norman, there's a lot more to talk about.
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- Can you stay with us for another segment?
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- They both happened to.
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- We'll be right back in just a moment.
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- We'll be right back in just a moment.
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- And we're back now
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- With south carolina congressman ralph norman.
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- If president trump is effectively handling crime,
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- Drugs, the economy, war and a lot more,
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- What is it that the democrats are going
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- To try to run on in the midterms next year,
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- Or will they have to agree to work with trump on
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- What most americans care about?
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- Well,
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- They're not intending to working with president trump.
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- They, i know first year he's been in office,
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- They blocked and voted against everything that he's put up.
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- Big beautiful bill may have had one,
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- Democrat come, come vote with him.
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- But alan, don't just, it's, they hate trump mentality.
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- And you can see it in the state of the union
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- With the little little boy that had cancer.
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- They would not stand up.
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- They didn't stand up the whole time
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- That, the president spoke, you know, applauded him.
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- And, we're going to get it done without them.
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- We've got a three seat majority.
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- And so,
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- We've we've
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- He is such a leader
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- Who lays out his plan and who works his plan
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- Among the members that he's brought us together.
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- And we'll do the same in spite
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- Of the democrats and in spite of,
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- Of their socialist beliefs.
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- As it stands now.
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- Well, you've made the case
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- That the shutdown affects far more people
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- Than those who work in government.
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- Over 70% of the country's small businesses suffer
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- When the government is shut down.
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- Tell us more about the damage that's being caused right now.
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- It's caused damage in the fact
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- That our policemen are suffering our ice agents.
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- If you look at the assaults,
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- The threats against our ice agents who are protected
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- Aboard it, it's up 8,000%.
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- You know, our first responders, the whole, the the the
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- The fabric of this country has been affected by a shutdown.
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- That should not have happened.
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- To spend 1.5 trillion more money
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- To for illegals is just not right.
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- It's unfair.
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- And democrats still are willing to do anything.
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- And crony capitalism, alan is taking over the
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- The powers that be
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- Have put people in office to get our tax dollars.
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- And it's spending money we don't have.
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- The interest alone is what is approaching
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- $2 billion a year, which is more than our military.
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- Allocations that we've had to keep this country safe.
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- But, i don't know how the shutdown will last.
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- I think that the republicans are united.
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- We're not going to give in if we give it now
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- And basically pay a ransom,
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- It will be a preview of coming attractions
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- That we just not willing to do that
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- With a split between traditional democrats
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- Like chuck schumer
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- And the new breed aoc and her new, very left
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- Leaning socialist communist friend from new york city,
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- The democrats seem permanently splintered.
- 00:11:24.849 --> 00:11:28.253
- That hasn't stopped kamala harris
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- From suggesting that she's considering another run.
- 00:11:29.587 --> 00:11:32.357
- Listen to her reasoning.
- 00:11:32.357 --> 00:11:33.792
- I am not done.
- 00:11:33.792 --> 00:11:34.893
- I have lived my entire career
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- A life of service, and it's in my bones.
- 00:11:37.729 --> 00:11:41.232
- I do believe that when you fight, you win.
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- But sometimes the fight takes a while.
- 00:11:43.368 --> 00:11:47.138
- Now i'll reserve comment on that for now,
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- But do you see anyone who could lead them in 2028? and
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- Absolutely not.
- 00:11:53.912 --> 00:11:55.079
- Kamala harris has lived a life of disservice.
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- Her work style, it makes no sense on the campaign trail.
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- And now i can't imagine anyone reading a book.
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- Gavin newsom
- 00:12:03.888 --> 00:12:04.989
- Has got a track record of train wreck in california,
- 00:12:04.989 --> 00:12:07.792
- Which is what was once a great state that is now,
- 00:12:07.792 --> 00:12:10.995
- You know, a cesspool for crime, for drugs, for,
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- Government overreach.
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- And now there's nobody in the, in the,
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- The in the near future who i know can take over.
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- And i will not have people on the house floor.
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- Democrats say
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- They're just scared to do anything
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- They may believe differently, but they're scared because
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- They'll, you know, they'll risk losing their seat.
- 00:12:33.017 --> 00:12:36.487
- But, you know, this country is worth more than keeping a seat.
- 00:12:36.487 --> 00:12:39.791
- I work hard to defeat those
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- Who are doing what the democrats are doing at every level.
- 00:12:42.961 --> 00:12:46.364
- You got some democrats that are wavering as well.
- 00:12:46.364 --> 00:12:48.800
- But you know, where we're, it's a different time in history,
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- And freedom has never been free. you got to fight for it.
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- And hopefully we'll we'll we're up to the challenge.
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- But seems to me
- 00:12:58.543 --> 00:12:59.510
- We have to return to the notion of statesmen
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- Who make the best decisions for the country.
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- They're not professional politicians. am i wrong
- 00:13:03.481 --> 00:13:06.551
- Now? you're right.
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- And we need more charlie kirks.
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- And people like you who will speak up,
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- Who have a voice and we'll use it.
- 00:13:14.025 --> 00:13:17.028
- You know, god doesn't call the most well prepared.
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- He calls those who are willing.
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- And then he he prepares us.
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- And it's going to take people at every level
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- Getting involved in government.
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- And, you know, it's a it's a bloodsport.
- 00:13:26.471 --> 00:13:30.074
- But that's why we, we get we are entering politics
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- To correct what's happened in so many cities
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- All across this country.
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- And, i think we hopefully will meet the challenge
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- Well, before we run out of time, i want to ask you about
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- The president's warning to the president of nigeria.
- 00:13:44.222 --> 00:13:47.492
- Christians are being wiped out, killed during services,
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- And no one has been coming to their defense.
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- President trump said
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- Their government must do something
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- To protect these people immediately,
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- Or he's going
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- To send our military in to eliminate the terrorist.
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- Would you support the use of u.s.
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- Forces for a brief intervention?
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- Absolutely.
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- What this president has done,
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- To protect america, we're sending in the troops,
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- He'll do in foreign countries and,
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- You know, david beasley, who's head of the world
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- Food bank, showed pictures of the country
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- He travel where christians
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- And innocent people are just getting slaughtered,
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- Men, women and children.
- 00:14:24.162 --> 00:14:25.830
- And it's barbaric, is evil.
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- And, this president understands that.
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- And he'll put the resources and the, those who will,
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- Will take all the challenge firsthand as he's doing here.
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- So, absolutely,
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- We've got some legislation now, but it's fell in that aisle.
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- And i'm just glad the president is
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- Is doing what he's doing as a as he has the whole year
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- He's been in office.
- 00:14:47.952 --> 00:14:48.920
- He's, he loves america and he loves freedom.
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- Well, congressman norman, it is a great pleasure
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- To have you on.
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- I wish more people inside the
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- Beltway would follow your lead if you come back again soon.
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- Thank you so much.
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- And i appreciate what you're doing.
- 00:15:02.033 --> 00:15:03.434
- Well, in a moment.
- 00:15:03.434 --> 00:15:04.235
- Hope remains. and i'll tell you why.
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- When we come back.
- 00:15:06.771 --> 00:15:15.006
- When we come back.
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- Because president trump has
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- Shined a spotlight on the plight of christians in nigeria.
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- The global community is starting
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- To wake up to what's happening there.
- 00:15:26.887 --> 00:15:29.123
- Open doors, an organization that raises awareness
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- Of christian persecution around the world.
- 00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:34.028
- They recently stated that nigeria
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- Is the most violent place in the world
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- For followers of jesus.
- 00:15:38.232 --> 00:15:40.167
- Several islamic militant groups, including boko haram
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- And the regional arm of the islamic state,
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- Have built up a major presence in nigeria,
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- Particularly in the muslim majority north of the country.
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- These islamic terror groups have explicitly
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- And repeatedly declared christians as targets.
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- Victims of reported open doors that when slaughtering
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- The terrorist yell we will destroy all christians.
- 00:16:01.755 --> 00:16:05.959
- Kidnaped believers were told by their captors
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- That they could end their
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- Suffering if they would just simply proclaimed to be muslim.
- 00:16:09.596 --> 00:16:13.133
- Radical islamist violence is spreading across
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- Many nations in africa.
- 00:16:15.669 --> 00:16:17.304
- There's been a brutal war in
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- Sudan for a long time, and it's been ramped up of late.
- 00:16:18.439 --> 00:16:22.543
- The reality is christians are the most persecuted
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- Religious group in the world,
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- And it's inconvenient for us to talk about it.
- 00:16:26.814 --> 00:16:29.450
- We have a very limited imagination of what
- 00:16:29.450 --> 00:16:31.418
- That kind of persecution would be like.
- 00:16:31.418 --> 00:16:33.787
- Their lives are in jeopardy.
- 00:16:33.787 --> 00:16:35.656
- It's not uncommon for them to have to leave their homes
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- And never go back.
- 00:16:38.158 --> 00:16:39.793
- They face a completely different set of challenges
- 00:16:39.793 --> 00:16:42.396
- Than we're accustomed to as christ followers.
- 00:16:42.396 --> 00:16:45.599
- We have to be willing to pray for them.
- 00:16:45.599 --> 00:16:48.001
- I believe that if we don't use our voices, use our freedom
- 00:16:48.001 --> 00:16:51.105
- And our liberty to stand up for those who don't have that,
- 00:16:51.105 --> 00:16:54.208
- Then we'll forfeit ours.
- 00:16:54.208 --> 00:16:56.009
- It's way too easy for us to be co-opted by comfort
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- And convenience.
- 00:16:58.645 --> 00:16:59.880
- I'm not opposed to those things,
- 00:16:59.880 --> 00:17:01.381
- But i refuse to worship them as my life goal was determined
- 00:17:01.381 --> 00:17:05.319
- To do difficult things, do uncomfortable things.
- 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:08.522
- Let's do
- 00:17:08.522 --> 00:17:09.756
- Things that cause strain for the sake of the kingdom of god.
- 00:17:09.756 --> 00:17:12.726
- I believe the prayers of god's people can change the destiny
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- Of a life, of a family, and even a nation.
- 00:17:15.662 --> 00:17:19.500
- We'll be right back
- 00:17:19.967 --> 00:17:21.235
- With your emails.
- 00:17:21.235 --> 00:17:28.999
- With your emails.
- 00:17:28.999 --> 00:17:33.775
- Later this month, we'll be doing a show
- 00:17:34.643 --> 00:17:36.411
- Where we answer all of your questions.
- 00:17:36.411 --> 00:17:38.614
- If there's something
- 00:17:38.614 --> 00:17:39.848
- You've been wanting to ask, now would be a great opportunity
- 00:17:39.848 --> 00:17:42.284
- To write in.
- 00:17:42.284 --> 00:17:43.485
- You just go to aj now.com and send me your emails.
- 00:17:43.485 --> 00:17:46.622
- We'll look forward to reading them on the air.
- 00:17:46.622 --> 00:17:49.358
- Charlene from california wrote you have been
- 00:17:49.358 --> 00:17:51.994
- Talking about families in the kitchen table.
- 00:17:51.994 --> 00:17:55.130
- We need a simple book of what can happen at the kitchen table,
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- Maybe pictures of the hall where the table is
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- And the saying on the walls, i only wish i could see it all.
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- I'm a great grandma
- 00:18:04.139 --> 00:18:05.307
- And i have three kids after school,
- 00:18:05.307 --> 00:18:07.509
- Always a meal at our kitchen table.
- 00:18:07.509 --> 00:18:09.344
- Love your messages. thank you.
- 00:18:09.344 --> 00:18:11.713
- Well, charlotte, you ask and we have a solution.
- 00:18:11.713 --> 00:18:14.883
- We just put together a book, lead with faith at christmas,
- 00:18:14.883 --> 00:18:18.520
- And it's designed to do exactly what you described.
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- It's a devotional for 25 days.
- 00:18:20.923 --> 00:18:23.125
- Simple little devotions to go through the christmas season.
- 00:18:23.125 --> 00:18:25.961
- There's even some activities that you can do
- 00:18:25.961 --> 00:18:27.829
- With children or families, even some christmas recipes.
- 00:18:27.829 --> 00:18:31.600
- You can get the book if you just go to allen jackson.com.
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- It'll help
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- Turn those kitchen tables into ministry opportunities
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- And help bring god back front and center in our homes.
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- That's worthwhile.
- 00:18:41.710 --> 00:18:43.979
- Ron, from booneville, mississippi,
- 00:18:44.746 --> 00:18:47.182
- Said pastor john hammond took a presentation
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- About pornography in public schools.
- 00:18:50.252 --> 00:18:52.454
- Gave me a flashback to omaha, nebraska in the 1980s.
- 00:18:52.454 --> 00:18:56.491
- I volunteered to serve on a committee
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- To review of books that were being considered
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- For inclusion in public school libraries.
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- None of them were pornographic or obscene per se,
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- But some were morally questionable.
- 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:07.169
- When i voiced my concerns, i was either ignored
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- Or told that no one else saw the problem.
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- I saw
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- The term biblical worldview that hadn't been coined yet,
- 00:19:12.374 --> 00:19:15.377
- But i'm confident
- 00:19:15.377 --> 00:19:16.545
- That was what my protest, why my protest went nowhere.
- 00:19:16.545 --> 00:19:19.715
- Sadly, i got tired of being refuted
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- And dropped out of the committee.
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- Warren, thank you for using your voice,
- 00:19:24.419 --> 00:19:26.455
- And perhaps it's time for us to begin to speak up again.
- 00:19:26.455 --> 00:19:29.057
- With the new determination, it's important
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- That we participate in the public discussion.
- 00:19:31.593 --> 00:19:34.263
- Judy, be from california.
- 00:19:34.830 --> 00:19:36.965
- So you always say to find a local church.
- 00:19:36.965 --> 00:19:39.334
- Well, i did at least a half a dozen times,
- 00:19:39.334 --> 00:19:41.837
- And the pastor either left
- 00:19:41.837 --> 00:19:43.071
- Or most of what they preached wasn't quite biblical.
- 00:19:43.071 --> 00:19:45.774
- God, thankfully led me to you.
- 00:19:45.774 --> 00:19:47.709
- I do get fellowship, but it's at the bowling alley.
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- Bless you pastor, and your entire staff.
- 00:19:50.746 --> 00:19:53.782
- Well, judy, let me make a suggestion.
- 00:19:53.782 --> 00:19:55.851
- We live stream every service
- 00:19:55.851 --> 00:19:57.753
- During your television on sunday morning.
- 00:19:57.753 --> 00:19:59.588
- Join the live stream from here in murfreesboro.
- 00:19:59.588 --> 00:20:02.524
- Invite a few friends into your home
- 00:20:02.524 --> 00:20:04.293
- And you've got a ready made church
- 00:20:04.293 --> 00:20:05.927
- Service in the comfort and convenience of your own home.
- 00:20:05.927 --> 00:20:09.865
- We don't have to have a formal building.
- 00:20:09.865 --> 00:20:11.333
- We need god's truth.
- 00:20:11.333 --> 00:20:12.634
- A few people to agree with us,
- 00:20:12.634 --> 00:20:14.569
- And the courage to say yes to the lord.
- 00:20:14.569 --> 00:20:17.105
- If we'll do that, i promise there's reason for hope.
- 00:20:17.105 --> 00:20:20.475
- Thank you for spending a few minutes with us,
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- And i pray you have a good evening.
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