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Allen Jackson: Local Conditions | Allen Jackson Now

November 25, 2025 | 22:34

Allen Jackson: Local Conditions | Allen Jackson Now
Fleur Hassan-Nahoum joins Allrn Jackson to discuss current events.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Local Conditions | Allen Jackson Now | November 25, 2025
  • Good evening and welcome to nashville.
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  • I'm alan jackson.
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  • There was a heartwarming scene at the white house
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  • When president trump met with a group of former
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  • Israeli hostages recently.
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  • All of whom had spent far too many days and nights
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  • In the hands of hamas.
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  • The president gave each of them a presidential challenge coin,
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  • And they gave him a mezuzah
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  • That had survived their october 7th capture.
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  • Well, the war is over,
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  • But there are still occasional operations
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  • In both lebanon against hezbollah
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  • And with the remnants of hamas.
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  • No one in authority believes
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  • That these terror groups have stopped for good.
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  • But for now at least,
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  • They're hardly the threat they've been for so many years.
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  • Well, in jerusalem, tourists are coming back.
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  • People are out on the streets,
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  • And the israelis are spending more time
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  • Dining out than they are running to bomb shelters.
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  • And that includes our guest tonight, floor hassan,
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  • The whom was the former deputy mayor of jerusalem.
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  • And she's now a special representative
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  • For the foreign ministry and a friend of this show.
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  • It's great to see you under such better circumstances.
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  • Thank god.
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  • Thank you, pastor al. and great to be with you.
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  • Let's start by telling us
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  • How things are with you and in jerusalem these days.
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  • Well, like you mentioned, things are definitely calming.
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  • But what is calmer, more than anything is our soul.
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  • The fact that we know that now there are no living hostages
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  • In gaza being tortured and starved to death.
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  • I think we all breathed
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  • A huge sigh of relief because we would never fight.
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  • We would never have gotten over any of it.
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  • We can't get into post-trauma mode if we're still in trauma.
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  • And whilst those hostages were there,
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  • The whole country was still in trauma.
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  • And so, yes,
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  • We still have three dead hostages that have to come home.
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  • But at least we know
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  • That the ones that were being slowly killed,
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  • At least a home recovering, are nothing short of a miracle
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  • And an incredible diplomatic achievement.
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  • By president trump.
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  • And so life is beginning to get back to a
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  • Well, it is certainly a diplomatic miracle,
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  • But i think it was also connected
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  • To some very precision and activity from the idf
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  • And with some american bombers as well.
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  • So, yes, together with both the force
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  • And the diplomacy, made the difference.
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  • Absolutely.
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  • In this region, unfortunately.
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  • You need to lead by force in this region.
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  • If you're not strong, you're not respected.
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  • That's just the way that it is here.
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  • It's a society of of honor and shame in the wider middle east.
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  • That's the, the predominant arab culture in the region.
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  • And therefore, the only way
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  • Is to be the strongest, kid in the playground.
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  • And that's why israel's had to invest so much in its defense.
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  • Thanks to, the partnership with the united states
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  • And that ultimately, that coming through is what
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  • Ultimately got us to the point that you can actually negotiate
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  • From a place of strength.
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  • Well, as you know, president trump is talking
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  • About the possibility of a next phase in the abraham accords,
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  • Including i mentioned during a
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  • Meeting with the saudi crown prince.
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  • Here's how that conversation went.
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  • We've had a very good talk on the abraham accords.
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  • We talked about one state to state.
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  • You know, we talked about a lot of things.
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  • In a short period of time.
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  • We'll be discussing it further, too.
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  • But i think you have a very good
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  • Feeling toward the abraham accords.
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  • Yes, definitely. mr.
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  • President, we want peaceful israelis, more peaceful years.
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  • We want them to coexist peacefully in the region.
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  • We will do our best to to reach a deal.
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  • What do you think of this?
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  • And what are the you hearing on the streets?
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  • Well, we always hoped.
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  • You have to remember that
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  • One of the reasons why october the 7th happened.
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  • When it happened, it was because there was significant
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  • Advancement with the saudis to make peace.
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  • And so the islamic republic of iran, the last thing they want
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  • Is that type of collaboration between israel
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  • And one of its biggest enemies, which is the sunni moderate
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  • Kingdom of saudi arabia, which essentially threatens
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  • Their shia, shia radical,
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  • Regime in iran.
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  • And that was one of the reasons.
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  • And in fact, recently
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  • Documentation was found in gaza by idf soldiers confirming that
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  • Suspicion that we always had about the timing of october 7th.
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  • They've always wanted to destroy us.
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  • They've always trying to destroy us.
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  • But that timing was significant
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  • Because that's what they wanted to prevent.
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  • So now we're asked to the war, hopefully.
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  • And so there is an opportunity to get back.
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  • And also president trump is developed a really incredibly
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  • Positive relationship with ms..
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  • And i think the timing is right.
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  • I think what the saudis want is some type of process
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  • With the palestinians.
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  • But i don't think that he would
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  • Kind of put all his eggs in that basket.
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  • I think that
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  • There is definitely, a desire for members to do it.
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  • But he can't lose face in the muslim arab world.
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  • So he's got his own audience to think about, his own people
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  • To think about.
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  • And so he has to bring them something,
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  • That involves the palestinians.
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  • And i think that's where he's at.
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  • But let me tell you,
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  • Pastor, that
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  • In actual fact, in reality, is hundreds
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  • Of israeli companies already operating in saudi arabia.
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  • So there's almost a slow, quiet normalization happening
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  • Without the shiny white house ceremony.
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  • It's kind of a little under the radar,
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  • But it's going groups are going all the time.
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  • Israeli businesses are there, the white labeling products,
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  • A lot of their technologies coming from israel, jewish
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  • Groups, christian groups are going
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  • All the time to saudi arabia to make that rapprochement.
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  • So it's actually happening.
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  • But maybe we're going to have to wait a little longer
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  • For the white house ceremony.
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  • Well, let me ask you about some of what's ahead for israel.
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  • You've been heavily involved in a great deal
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  • Of economic development over the years.
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  • Do you have any idea what the best growth
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  • Opportunities are as you go forward?
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  • Well, what's really incredible,
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  • Maybe even on most of your racket, is, again,
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  • We're living on a prayer and a miracle here.
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  • Is that even to two years of war,
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  • The israeli economy has remained very robust.
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  • We have the shekel.
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  • I mean, nobody can understand how the currency, the shekel,
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  • Is stronger than ever through war.
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  • And the stock market
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  • Went up 30 points.
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  • Investors have made a lot of money to the stock
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  • Market in the two years of war trade with the uae.
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  • We're going back to the abraham accords,
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  • Finished 2024 with $3.5 billion.
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  • Five years ago, there was nothing.
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  • And so the economy is doing very well.
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  • The investment is still coming in.
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  • You can imagine
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  • Defense technology investment has gone up significantly
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  • Because now we have tried and tested technology
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  • From two years of this horrible war.
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  • But we never wanted or we never started.
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  • And so i'm very optimistic that the economic future
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  • Of israel, especially in the region,
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  • And especially as a bridge
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  • Between east and west, as a bridge between,
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  • Between the western european
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  • Countries, the united states and eastern countries,
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  • From the middle east onwards, i think we can be
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  • A very effective bridge, not just a metaphorical bridge.
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  • So business, but also actually a physical, logistical bridge.
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  • We have a something called i corridor,
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  • Which is essentially connecting, the arab
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  • World, the middle east, and countries like saudi arabia
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  • All the way to europe through israel.
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  • Israel is now a country
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  • That, produces, mines its own gas.
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  • We will be in, in, in the next few years, providing
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  • A lot of the gas in europe through a pipeline to greece.
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  • And so things are looking, thank god
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  • Things are looking good in terms of israel's economy.
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  • But ultimately, our major export is technology.
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  • It's ingenuity is problem solving.
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  • It's in fact solving the challenges of the world.
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  • I always find it funny
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  • When when we hear people wanting to boycott israel,
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  • They couldn't boycott israel if they tried because everybody
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  • Would have to throw their iphones into the bin
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  • Because the chips inside the iphones are manufactured.
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  • And, and, you know, produced in israel.
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  • So i find it actually kind of comical when people
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  • Try and push for boycotts or on products
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  • That they wouldn't be able to live without.
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  • You know, tourism has
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  • Always been a big part of israel or the tourists coming back.
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  • And what are you doing to help promote that again?
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  • Well, the tourists, thank the lord, are coming back.
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  • I was told by a friend of mine who's, an agent recently
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  • That for the hanukkah christmas season, they can't
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  • Find a hotel room in jerusalem, so that's always good.
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  • Yes. i mean, we've had between the covid
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  • And then the war, it's been devastating for the tourism
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  • In this country over the last five years, as you can imagine.
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  • But we are now beginning to see we had the jewish holidays,
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  • We had season of tabernacles when we had wonderful,
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  • Christian communities from all around the world
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  • Here, jewish communities.
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  • So the jewish new year and jewish holidays.
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  • And now so christmas, hanukkah, we have a renewed,
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  • Wave of tourism coming in, and we hope
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  • That we can build ourselves up to have a great easter,
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  • Passover and summer as well.
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  • Well, i was in jerusalem a
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  • Few weeks ago, and i can testify the streets
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  • Felt safer than they do in most of our american cities.
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  • So things looked good to me. we try.
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  • We try hard.
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  • And you know, what people don't understand about jerusalem
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  • Is that we have the most diverse population in the country.
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  • We have 40% muslim arabs in jerusalem,
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  • And people get shot for and i tell them this number.
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  • And so if you actually want to see,
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  • I mean, there was always radicals that
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  • You have to keep your eye on.
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  • We've had unfortunately some terror incidents.
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  • But honestly, when you're comparing it,
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  • As you said, to a regular city in the united states,
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  • It's actually pretty safe. it's pretty safe.
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  • And the coexistence actually happens every single day,
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  • Even though the mainstream media would never report that.
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  • We need to take a short break.
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  • Can you stay with us for another segment?
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  • Absolutely.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We're back now with a special representative
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  • Of israel's foreign ministry floor, hassan nahum.
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  • She's coming to us from jerusalem this evening.
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  • You know, we've been in touch,
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  • In regular touch with ambassador huckabee.
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  • He's been one of our country's
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  • Most vocal supporters of israel for many years.
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  • And as you'll hear, he's very optimistic
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  • About the country's future.
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  • Listen to his perspective.
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  • There's certainly going to be moments
  • 00:11:38.954 --> 00:11:40.756
  • That things get very fragile.
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  • I don't think any of us doubted that that would be the case.
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  • But the cease fire is holding.
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  • I can tell you, as someone who, for the first time in over
  • 00:11:47.630 --> 00:11:50.499
  • A month, is no longer dodging ballistic missiles.
  • 00:11:50.499 --> 00:11:53.669
  • It's, it's been a remarkable period of calm.
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  • I think overall, if you look at it,
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  • The president's plan is moving along very, very effectively.
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  • The floor you mentioned
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  • A moment ago about the diversity of the population in israel.
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  • It is certainly a homeland for the jewish people.
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  • But it's far more than that.
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  • It is a very diverse country, isn't it?
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  • Can you tell us a bit more about that?
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  • Absolutely.
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  • And i think this is a misconception, of course.
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  • Israel is, has got, 20%
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  • Arab citizen minority,
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  • Who lives and take part in
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  • Every aspect of life in israel in terms of opportunities.
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  • The sky's the limit.
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  • We have the, one of the chiefs of the of one of the main
  • 00:12:36.846 --> 00:12:40.950
  • Banks in israel is an arab israeli, in parliament.
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  • The supreme court justices, business people.
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  • And so i don't think people know that about israel.
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  • The most educated population in the state of israel are arab
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  • Christian women
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  • Who represent the highest proportion in, higher education
  • 00:13:01.770 --> 00:13:06.475
  • Than any other population, in this country.
  • 00:13:06.475 --> 00:13:10.412
  • And so these things are important
  • 00:13:10.412 --> 00:13:13.048
  • Because israel is a country of tolerance,
  • 00:13:13.048 --> 00:13:15.584
  • Of coexistence, of equal rights for all its citizens.
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  • And if you asked any arab citizen,
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  • To, decide where they want to live, most of them,
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  • I would say, quite vehemently would say
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  • That they love living in israel,
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  • Because of all the freedoms that it gives them.
  • 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:33.035
  • And the irony is that in the arab world, the only place that,
  • 00:13:33.035 --> 00:13:36.605
  • Arabs can vote men and women is israel.
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  • You know, it's unfortunate, but the anti-semitic
  • 00:13:41.310 --> 00:13:43.913
  • Noise has surfaced again even in our country.
  • 00:13:43.913 --> 00:13:47.716
  • Is it better since the war has ended?
  • 00:13:47.716 --> 00:13:50.085
  • Or can you tell,
  • 00:13:50.085 --> 00:13:52.488
  • I think that the horse is out of the stable
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  • In terms of anti-semitism, and i don't think you can
  • 00:13:56.158 --> 00:13:59.094
  • Put it back in at this point.
  • 00:13:59.094 --> 00:14:00.896
  • I think that october 7th unleashed,
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  • Unfortunately, i hate to say it,
  • 00:14:04.199 --> 00:14:05.668
  • And i never thought in my generation we'd be living this,
  • 00:14:05.668 --> 00:14:08.971
  • But i think october 7th unleashed
  • 00:14:08.971 --> 00:14:11.707
  • A very deep seated hatred, towards the jewish people.
  • 00:14:11.707 --> 00:14:17.046
  • October 7th was an excuse.
  • 00:14:17.613 --> 00:14:19.381
  • So this october 7th, we would hear people saying, oh,
  • 00:14:19.381 --> 00:14:23.052
  • You know, zionism is the problem.
  • 00:14:23.052 --> 00:14:24.820
  • And today it's just the masks are off.
  • 00:14:24.820 --> 00:14:28.524
  • It's not they're not trying to pretend that it's zionism.
  • 00:14:28.524 --> 00:14:32.594
  • It's blatant jewish hatred.
  • 00:14:32.594 --> 00:14:35.898
  • And unfortunately, we see it everywhere.
  • 00:14:35.898 --> 00:14:37.733
  • We see it on the list.
  • 00:14:37.733 --> 00:14:39.234
  • And recently,
  • 00:14:39.234 --> 00:14:40.869
  • Shockingly, we've also been seeing it on the right.
  • 00:14:40.869 --> 00:14:44.406
  • And it's it's sad.
  • 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:47.343
  • It's it really is incredible to think
  • 00:14:47.343 --> 00:14:50.479
  • That we're in 2025 and the world hasn't learned a lesson.
  • 00:14:50.479 --> 00:14:54.416
  • And unfortunately, the propaganda against jews
  • 00:14:54.416 --> 00:14:58.320
  • And the jewish state that comes from mainstream
  • 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.690
  • Media, by not reporting correctly, by, you know,
  • 00:15:01.690 --> 00:15:05.127
  • Going with blood libels without checking sources.
  • 00:15:05.127 --> 00:15:09.098
  • You know, this is part of what's going on.
  • 00:15:09.098 --> 00:15:11.834
  • And the other very poisonous part,
  • 00:15:11.834 --> 00:15:13.369
  • Of course, is social media.
  • 00:15:13.369 --> 00:15:15.270
  • Social media is completely,
  • 00:15:15.270 --> 00:15:17.840
  • Uncontrolled and completely unhinged.
  • 00:15:18.640 --> 00:15:22.378
  • Anybody can say whatever they want out of the crazy it is.
  • 00:15:22.378 --> 00:15:26.749
  • And there are people out there who believe it.
  • 00:15:26.749 --> 00:15:30.019
  • And so, you know, very recently,
  • 00:15:30.019 --> 00:15:32.955
  • I think three days ago, elon musk opened
  • 00:15:32.955 --> 00:15:35.491
  • This feature that allows you to see where people
  • 00:15:35.491 --> 00:15:38.861
  • Are actually posting from on x.
  • 00:15:38.861 --> 00:15:42.164
  • And it turned out that all those people that media
  • 00:15:42.164 --> 00:15:45.834
  • Sources used as journalists in gaza, as sources of news
  • 00:15:45.834 --> 00:15:50.372
  • In gaza were in turkey, indonesia.
  • 00:15:50.372 --> 00:15:53.575
  • One was in poland.
  • 00:15:53.575 --> 00:15:55.477
  • It was all a lie.
  • 00:15:55.477 --> 00:15:56.879
  • So we knew it was.
  • 00:15:56.879 --> 00:15:58.680
  • But of course, we were going against
  • 00:15:58.680 --> 00:16:02.284
  • We were going against the current,
  • 00:16:02.284 --> 00:16:04.820
  • And we were labeled as as liars and as murderers.
  • 00:16:04.820 --> 00:16:09.825
  • When, of course, as you well know,
  • 00:16:09.825 --> 00:16:11.727
  • Because you've been here and you know
  • 00:16:11.727 --> 00:16:13.529
  • Israel well, it was quite the opposite.
  • 00:16:13.529 --> 00:16:16.298
  • And so we're facing delegitimization
  • 00:16:16.298 --> 00:16:20.002
  • Around the world, demonization around the world,
  • 00:16:20.002 --> 00:16:23.539
  • And double standards.
  • 00:16:23.539 --> 00:16:25.240
  • And that is the definition of anti-semitism.
  • 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:27.943
  • You know, people say, well,
  • 00:16:27.943 --> 00:16:28.877
  • Why can't people criticize israeli cities?
  • 00:16:28.877 --> 00:16:31.713
  • But when you are now engaged
  • 00:16:31.713 --> 00:16:35.017
  • In delegitimization, in other words,
  • 00:16:35.017 --> 00:16:36.819
  • Saying israel doesn't have a right to exist.
  • 00:16:36.819 --> 00:16:38.887
  • And when you're now engaged in demonization, saying things
  • 00:16:38.887 --> 00:16:41.590
  • Like baby killers, do we hear that expression
  • 00:16:41.590 --> 00:16:45.227
  • About any other war around the world?
  • 00:16:45.227 --> 00:16:48.964
  • Is anybody saying that about putin or about anything
  • 00:16:48.964 --> 00:16:52.468
  • Going on in africa or in yemen or in in sudan?
  • 00:16:52.468 --> 00:16:57.339
  • Nothing.
  • 00:16:57.339 --> 00:16:58.407
  • It's exclusively reserved for the idf soldiers.
  • 00:16:58.407 --> 00:17:02.244
  • That's demonization.
  • 00:17:02.711 --> 00:17:04.646
  • And lastly, double standards.
  • 00:17:04.646 --> 00:17:07.716
  • Nobody cares about the hundreds
  • 00:17:07.716 --> 00:17:11.153
  • And thousands of christians being slaughtered in nigeria.
  • 00:17:11.153 --> 00:17:14.389
  • Nobody cares in sudan.
  • 00:17:14.857 --> 00:17:16.758
  • In what way more people were killed.
  • 00:17:16.758 --> 00:17:18.861
  • But in this whole israel-gaza war,
  • 00:17:18.861 --> 00:17:20.829
  • Nobody cares because it's double standards.
  • 00:17:20.829 --> 00:17:23.765
  • And that's when legitimate criticism of israel crosses
  • 00:17:23.765 --> 00:17:27.369
  • Over to anti-semitism.
  • 00:17:27.369 --> 00:17:28.871
  • And unfortunately, it's everywhere today.
  • 00:17:28.871 --> 00:17:32.141
  • Before one quick question, before we go, is there
  • 00:17:33.108 --> 00:17:35.844
  • Anything else we haven't yet touched on that you can tell us
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  • When.
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  • All i want to say is, i want to express my gratitude
  • 00:17:40.983 --> 00:17:43.752
  • To our evangelical friends from around the world.
  • 00:17:43.752 --> 00:17:45.921
  • Not only does the christian community
  • 00:17:45.921 --> 00:17:48.390
  • Keep coming to israel even at the middle of the war.
  • 00:17:48.390 --> 00:17:51.093
  • I always say, who comes to israel?
  • 00:17:51.093 --> 00:17:53.762
  • Who comes anywhere in the middle of the war?
  • 00:17:53.762 --> 00:17:55.430
  • Our christian friends do.
  • 00:17:55.430 --> 00:17:56.965
  • And carrying on, being those wonderful ambassadors
  • 00:17:56.965 --> 00:17:59.935
  • For the jewish people in the state of israel.
  • 00:17:59.935 --> 00:18:01.737
  • So my heart goes out with complete gratitude
  • 00:18:01.737 --> 00:18:04.506
  • For the allies that we have, which we appreciate greatly.
  • 00:18:04.506 --> 00:18:08.544
  • Before hassan, the home, thank you for sharing your time
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  • With us today.
  • 00:18:11.213 --> 00:18:12.347
  • It is always a pleasure to hear you're on the ground.
  • 00:18:12.347 --> 00:18:14.049
  • View right from the heart of jerusalem.
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  • You take care.
  • 00:18:16.385 --> 00:18:18.020
  • Thank you pastor.
  • 00:18:18.020 --> 00:18:19.254
  • In a moment, hope for israel.
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  • It's stronger than ever. i'll be right back.
  • 00:18:21.323 --> 00:18:30.998
  • It's stronger than ever. i'll be right back.
  • 00:18:30.998 --> 00:18:35.567
  • It is unsettling to see the anti-semitism
  • 00:18:36.434 --> 00:18:39.137
  • That's raging across the ideological spectrum,
  • 00:18:39.137 --> 00:18:41.706
  • Even among conservative thought leaders.
  • 00:18:41.706 --> 00:18:44.375
  • You know, i made a list of things
  • 00:18:44.375 --> 00:18:45.577
  • That have been in the news recently
  • 00:18:45.577 --> 00:18:46.678
  • About my friends in israel and the jewish people.
  • 00:18:46.678 --> 00:18:49.414
  • According to the media chatter, apparently there were
  • 00:18:49.414 --> 00:18:51.983
  • Intentionally targeting children in gaza, putting out food.
  • 00:18:51.983 --> 00:18:55.553
  • And then when the kids came to get the food,
  • 00:18:55.553 --> 00:18:57.021
  • They were shooting them.
  • 00:18:57.021 --> 00:18:58.723
  • And then i heard that the israeli intelligence
  • 00:18:58.723 --> 00:19:00.625
  • Was responsible for jeffrey epstein,
  • 00:19:00.625 --> 00:19:02.393
  • That it was a global international blackmail scheme.
  • 00:19:02.393 --> 00:19:05.663
  • And it was all driven by the israeli intelligence.
  • 00:19:05.663 --> 00:19:09.234
  • Next, i heard that the israelis were responsible
  • 00:19:09.234 --> 00:19:11.336
  • For charlie kirk's assassination.
  • 00:19:11.336 --> 00:19:13.671
  • So i decided those things were true,
  • 00:19:13.671 --> 00:19:15.306
  • That i should do some additional research.
  • 00:19:15.306 --> 00:19:17.475
  • So i spent a couple of days doing a deep
  • 00:19:17.475 --> 00:19:19.244
  • Dive into the information that was available.
  • 00:19:19.244 --> 00:19:21.212
  • You'll be fascinated to know.
  • 00:19:21.212 --> 00:19:23.014
  • Here's some breaking news.
  • 00:19:23.014 --> 00:19:24.849
  • Well, apparently
  • 00:19:24.849 --> 00:19:25.783
  • In the immediate future, they're going to
  • 00:19:25.783 --> 00:19:26.985
  • The israelis are going to invade the north pole.
  • 00:19:26.985 --> 00:19:29.454
  • They're going to capture all of santa's elves to
  • 00:19:29.454 --> 00:19:32.323
  • The list of absurdities goes on and on.
  • 00:19:33.124 --> 00:19:35.793
  • And one of the things i think we all know
  • 00:19:35.793 --> 00:19:37.829
  • Is that if we are informed,
  • 00:19:37.829 --> 00:19:39.297
  • Alert and engaged, history tends to repeat itself.
  • 00:19:39.297 --> 00:19:43.001
  • So what we're watching
  • 00:19:43.468 --> 00:19:44.535
  • Unfold on a national and an international scale.
  • 00:19:44.535 --> 00:19:47.438
  • It really shouldn't surprise us.
  • 00:19:47.438 --> 00:19:49.440
  • As christ followers,
  • 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:50.508
  • We should understand the hatred for the jewish people.
  • 00:19:50.508 --> 00:19:53.711
  • It's coming for us as well.
  • 00:19:53.711 --> 00:19:55.113
  • It's the same spirit.
  • 00:19:55.113 --> 00:19:57.081
  • So if you see the jewish
  • 00:19:57.081 --> 00:19:58.216
  • People being marginalized and accused of everything,
  • 00:19:58.216 --> 00:20:01.152
  • That same hatred, it's going to be directed at you
  • 00:20:01.152 --> 00:20:04.088
  • And it'll be just as illogical and just as irrational.
  • 00:20:04.088 --> 00:20:07.592
  • Jesus has a distance himself from the jewish people.
  • 00:20:07.592 --> 00:20:10.962
  • There's really bad theology out there pushing the narrative
  • 00:20:10.962 --> 00:20:13.731
  • That god has rejected the jewish people.
  • 00:20:13.731 --> 00:20:15.967
  • They ignore our scripture, the book of romans.
  • 00:20:15.967 --> 00:20:18.202
  • In romans 11 it says, ask
  • 00:20:18.202 --> 00:20:19.637
  • The question, has god rejected the jewish people?
  • 00:20:19.637 --> 00:20:22.173
  • Is absolutely not. by no means.
  • 00:20:22.173 --> 00:20:25.009
  • We don't have to fight all of israel, israel's wars,
  • 00:20:25.009 --> 00:20:27.879
  • But we do have an assignment
  • 00:20:27.879 --> 00:20:29.280
  • To stand on behalf of the jewish people. at the end of the day.
  • 00:20:29.280 --> 00:20:32.083
  • Our messiah is an observant jewish rabbi,
  • 00:20:32.083 --> 00:20:35.853
  • And that brings a hope to all of our lives.
  • 00:20:35.853 --> 00:20:44.997
  • Thank you for spending a few minutes of your day with us.
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  • God is moving in the earth.
  • 00:20:48.967 --> 00:20:50.736
  • He's delivered israel from their enemies,
  • 00:20:50.736 --> 00:20:52.504
  • And he's watching over your life and mine.
  • 00:20:52.504 --> 00:20:54.506
  • And in that there is reason for tremendous hope.
  • 00:20:54.506 --> 00:20:57.543
  • God bless you.
  • 00:20:57.876 --> 00:20:58.744
  • And you have a good evening.
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