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Allen Jackson: Los Angeles Mayor Race | Allen Jackson Now

May 26, 2026 | 22:21

Allen Jackson: Los Angeles Mayor Race | Allen Jackson Now
Pete Peterson joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Los Angeles Mayor Race | Allen Jackson Now | May 26, 2026
  • Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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  • I'm alan jackson.
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  • Tonight we want to talk about something
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  • Millions of americans are increasingly concerned about.
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  • Whether the leaders running some of our largest cities
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  • Still know how to provide the most basic responsibilities
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  • Of government, public safety, secure communities, functioning
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  • Infrastructure, and the respect for the rule of law.
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  • In los angeles,
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  • The mayor's race has suddenly become a national story
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  • Because many voters believe the city is at a breaking point.
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  • Crime, homelessness, open drug use, high taxes,
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  • Rising cost,
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  • Illegal immigration, questions about their leadership,
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  • And a growing frustration that billions of taxpayer dollars
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  • They're being spent.
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  • While many residents
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  • Feel everyday life is becoming less safe and less stable.
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  • The biggest surprise in the race is candidate spencer pratt.
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  • He's a former reality
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  • Television personality who says he entered politics
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  • After losing his own home
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  • In the devastating palisades fire last year.
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  • What makes his rise notable is that republicans make up less
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  • Than 15% of registered voters in los angeles.
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  • Yet his message about law and order, government
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  • Accountability and restoring basic competence
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  • It appears to be resonating
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  • With frustrated voters across party lines.
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  • Residents are watching homelessness programs consume
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  • Massive amounts of public money,
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  • While tent encampments continue to grow.
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  • They're watching anti-police rhetoric
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  • Collide with rising concerns about public safety,
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  • And they're watching debates over sanctuary city policies
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  • And even proposals being pushed forward
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  • That would allow people who are here
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  • Illegally to vote in elections.
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  • But at the center of the debate is a larger question.
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  • Many americans are now asking what happens when flawed
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  • Ideology begins replacing common sense governance?
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  • You know, it seems to me there are waves of deception
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  • That just continue to crash over our lives.
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  • When you see
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  • What's taking place in society, it's confusing, disorienting.
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  • We have cities spending our dollars to oppose
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  • Federal laws.
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  • It's so common, we don't even notice anymore
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  • That mayors or governors resist efforts of federal agencies
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  • To help limit violent crime or immigration violations.
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  • They don't care about their citizens.
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  • They choose to make their
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  • Citizens vulnerable rather than challenge
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  • Political narratives, which keeps them in power.
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  • We have leaders of major cities rallying to dehumanize
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  • And villainize law enforcement
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  • In reference to law enforcement
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  • Cracking down on illegal immigration.
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  • Well, the d.a.
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  • Of philadelphia recently said in a very public press conference
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  • That ice agents were, and i quote, a small
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  • Bunch of wannabe nazis. that's what they are.
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  • We have the mayor of chicago at another
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  • Press conference openly
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  • Admitting to coordinating with the mayors of los angeles,
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  • Minneapolis, portland, oakland, boston, baltimore and denver.
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  • What were they coordinating about how to resist ice?
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  • There have been repeated cries in washington, d.c.
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  • To defund our ice agents.
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  • Then we find in the judicial system
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  • In major american cities, a persistent refusal to prosecute
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  • Criminals and the consistent weakening of the penal codes.
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  • They downgrade offenses to make them misdemeanors.
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  • And our jails have become a revolving door
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  • With violent repeat offenders let out only to commit
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  • More violence against innocent, law abiding citizens.
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  • And the leaders responsible for it
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  • Have no sense of shame or embarrassment.
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  • They celebrate it.
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  • They tell us it's humanitarian.
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  • That is a lie.
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  • They have abandoned
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  • The responsibilities that they agreed to uphold.
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  • We have state leaders encouraging drug abuse,
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  • And there's an abundance of data,
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  • Both from social sciences and hard sciences, that suggest
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  • There's a correlation between the rise in violent
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  • Crime and homelessness and an increase in drug use.
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  • Then these mayors take the whole constellation of items.
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  • They wrap a ball around it
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  • And say they intend to confiscate your guns.
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  • Let me be sure i've got this straight.
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  • They want to defund the police.
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  • They want to encourage criminal behavior.
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  • They want to open our borders.
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  • They want to accelerate drug use.
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  • They want justice to be unequal.
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  • And they think that law abiding
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  • Citizens should be the ones who turn in their weapons.
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  • Folks, it's irrational.
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  • It's illogical. makes no sense.
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  • But it's cascading over us like a waterfall on a daily basis.
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  • The lawlessness amongst us being encouraged by the people
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  • That have been entrusted to protect us.
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  • And unfortunately, the church, for the most part,
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  • Has been strangely silent.
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  • It's as if we're not sure how to respond or what
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  • The message should be,
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  • Because at the end of the day, we don't want to be offensive.
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  • We don't want to be labeled.
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  • We don't want to get canceled.
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  • We don't want our friends to step away.
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  • We'd much prefer to be labeled
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  • As a person of grace, a person of mercy.
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  • Well, i believe in the mercy and the grace of god,
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  • But that's not the entire character of god.
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  • We must determined to be champions of the truth,
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  • No matter who we meet,
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  • No matter how dark their story,
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  • No matter how deep the pit they fallen into,
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  • Don't commiserate with their sin.
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  • It's not kindness to put your arm around them and say,
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  • That's a horrible thing, and then leave them in that pit.
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  • That's not mercy. that's passive hatred.
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  • Every one of us has a god story.
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  • So let's have the courage to say that we too have struggled.
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  • But we found hope
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  • And deliverance in the person of jesus of nazareth.
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  • It's why we're here.
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  • The reason god has given us a breath
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  • And the blessings that have come to our lives.
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  • They're not principally so we can vacation
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  • In a more elaborate place.
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  • We've been blessed so that we can be an advocate
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  • And ambassador for jesus of nazareth.
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  • I believe wholeheartedly
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  • That jesus is the answer for the world today.
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  • With all that on the table, in a moment, we're going to talk
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  • About the la mayor's race and some other current issues
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  • With the dean of pepperdine school of public policy,
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  • Pete peterson. i'll be right back.
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  • Pete peterson. i'll be right back.
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  • We're joined tonight by the dean of pepperdine
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  • University school of public policy, pete peterson.
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  • Welcome to the show, sir.
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  • Great to be with you, ellen.
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  • Hey, pete.
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  • Los angeles is capturing
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  • Everybody's attention with your mayoral race there.
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  • You have got a reality tv star, spencer pratt, that seems to be
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  • Making a legitimate challenge at the sitting mayor.
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  • It's a fascinating you.
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  • Those of us on the outside.
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  • What's your take on what's unfolding?
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  • Well, i think we're seeing history
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  • Being made here, in this mayor's race.
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  • Allen. on a couple different dimensions.
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  • One is, of course, we've got the populist candidate,
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  • Spencer pratt, completely from outside the system.
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  • Really suffered personally with the loss of his home,
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  • And the displacement of his family,
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  • By what he has, i think accurately described
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  • As, incompetence in city leadership.
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  • That's been the genesis of this outsider run.
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  • To be mayor of america's second largest city.
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  • At the same time, what's gotten a lot of attention is are the
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  • Commercials
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  • And ads for his campaign, promoting his campaign
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  • That we we see not so much on television, but
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  • But on social media.
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  • And, i think
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  • The use of ai to create these ads is history making.
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  • And frankly, a change that will be seen,
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  • Studied and copied, for months and years to come.
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  • Well, we have a clip of
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  • Your recent mayoral debate, and i think it's pretty insightful.
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  • Let's watch that. and then i've got a question.
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  • And this is a yes or no question and answer.
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  • So there's an l.a. council member.
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  • She wants voters to decide.
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  • He is saying that non-citizens, should they be allowed
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  • To vote in local elections.
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  • Is this a yes or no, mr. pratt?
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  • No, mayor, but it depends.
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  • It's not a yes or no. it depends on what?
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  • Well, first of all, when you say non-citizens,
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  • It doesn't mean they're here illegal.
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  • Yeah, i would say again, it does depend in other places.
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  • School boards have.
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  • Yes. non-citizens. yes. or no.
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  • You know, when i watch it, i think word
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  • Salad must be a uniquely california dish.
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  • What's your take?
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  • Well, we're we're serving it up
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  • In this mayor's race, as you just you just noticed,
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  • You know, it is an amazing,
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  • Confluence of events here that we're seeing in this
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  • Mayor's race.
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  • You have somebody like us, spencer pratt,
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  • Who came to public notice for a reality television series.
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  • At the same time, you've got, karen bass, who's the
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  • The current mayor, and has really been seen
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  • As a failure in the eyes of, so many angelenos.
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  • And then you have nithya rahman, who initially had started off
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  • As a real supporter of mayor bass,
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  • Obviously has broken with her, but she's really the democratic
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  • Socialist candidate.
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  • She's really, if you will, the the mamdani candidate in this,
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  • In this race.
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  • And so,
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  • The primary system is one that you have to get
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  • 50% plus one in order to, win in the primary.
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  • That does not look like it's going to happen.
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  • So as we get through this
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  • Primary here at the beginning of june, it's
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  • Going to be quite a run that it looks like spencer
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  • Pratt is going to be one of those two candidates.
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  • Did you ever imagine that in your lifetime
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  • There would be a conservative candidate
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  • With a realistic chance of being mayor of l.a.
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  • You know, it's been many years, and i'm old enough to be alive.
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  • When we had those kinds of candidates,
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  • We had richard reardon back in the early part of the
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  • Of the 2000, late 19,
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  • Hundreds, if you will.
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  • But, yeah, it really does speak to a broader
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  • Question, alan, that you're, you're poking at, which is,
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  • How sustainable is this,
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  • Real swing to the left,
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  • In america's cities and also just demonstrated
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  • Incompetence that just because that, mayor happens
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  • To be a democrat, that they're automatically just going
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  • To, get in based on party affiliation?
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  • The fires here revealed so much incompetence
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  • In city government.
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  • And at the same time, there's real concern
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  • That we might
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  • Not just be going
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  • Toward the incompetent candidate in mayor bass, but towards
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  • The truly ideological candidate in miss raymond.
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  • And in that dynamic, there's an opportunity for someone
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  • Who is seen as a frankly, a more common sense candidate
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  • In spencer pratt
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  • Than you who spent
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  • Years studying civic engagement and public policy.
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  • Have we arrived at a place where
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  • So many americans feel homeless?
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  • It seems, even within their own political party?
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  • And how does that get resolved?
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  • You know, i,
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  • There have been a number of people
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  • That have proposed a third party that might be that home
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  • For people.
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  • I just don't
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  • I think we've certainly seen the the rise in what we call
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  • No party preference voters here in california.
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  • It's actually the second
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  • Largest party registration here in the state.
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  • But what a lot of people do
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  • Is they confuse no party preference with independent.
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  • And, and and to and by doing that,
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  • They seem to say that people are all independent.
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  • They're moderate.
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  • And what we've seen
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  • Here in california, we've seen a little bit in new york,
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  • Is some of those no party preference
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  • Voters are no party preference
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  • Because they don't think the democratic party in most cases
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  • Goes far enough to the left,
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  • And they don't feel like they have representation until this
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  • Democratic socialist movement really started growing.
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  • And so you're starting
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  • To see people pulling away, particularly on the left,
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  • Pulling away from the formal democratic party
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  • And moving toward this
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  • Democratic socialists of america, where dsa party,
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  • Particularly in the cities.
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  • And that's the thing that i think scares a lot of angelinos.
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  • We thought this might be just something
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  • That we saw in new york.
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  • But you're definitely seeing the rise of it here
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  • In los angeles as well.
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  • Well, we need to take a short break.
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  • I hope you can stand by for another segment.
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  • Of course.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We're back now with the dean of the school
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  • Of public policy at pepperdine university, pete peterson.
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  • Pete, the supreme court recently ruled that we can no longer
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  • Make voting districts based on race.
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  • That has created a nationwide scramble to review
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  • Those districts and realign them very state to state.
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  • What are your thoughts on how that's going
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  • To, in fact, affect our elections and how we
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  • Choose our candidates?
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  • Well, i'm on record in supporting
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  • What's known as independent redistricting commissions.
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  • These are opportunities for everyday citizens of
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  • States to essentially draw the districts outside of the
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  • Control of, of politicians or political parties.
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  • I hope what
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  • Comes out of all of this back and forth
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  • That we've seen, we've certainly
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  • Seen it here in california, where the mayor,
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  • The governor actually stepped forward and dismissed,
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  • The maps that were drawn by,
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  • The redistricting commission that we have here.
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  • I hope it's a return to some sort of,
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  • More balanced approach to drawing maps, ones
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  • That are not controlled by the issues.
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  • That we've seen, that are generally partizan motivated.
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  • Well, there's another trend that seems like it's going
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  • To shape public policy, and that's this mass
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  • Exodus from blue states to red states.
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  • What do you think the long term
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  • Implications of that are going to be?
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  • Economically, politically, i mean, in almost every way.
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  • Well, the politics follows the economics.
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  • And we are definitely seeing that here in california.
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  • The latest estimates say that california is due to lose
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  • Between 3 and 5 congressional seats at the 2030 census.
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  • That's just four years away.
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  • And those seats are all moving toward what you might call
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  • Red states, including yours
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  • There in tennessee, but certainly texas.
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  • Florida, arizona.
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  • And in that, the political balance is really swinging
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  • Toward these red states.
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  • You're going to see increased representation in red.
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  • By red states in congress.
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  • And of course, people are moving
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  • And bringing the jobs with them.
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  • And so you're also seeing increased economic activity.
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  • California is really, been losing
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  • Hundreds of thousands of middle class jobs
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  • And the people with them to red states.
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  • And so, as i said, the politics is following the economics.
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  • You know, it's not just individuals moving.
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  • Starbucks
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  • Has said they're going to bring,
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  • You know, corporate management to nashville.
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  • So i guess i've got a question on the other side.
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  • Those of us that are recipients
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  • Of these people in corporations, how do we maintain the ideas
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  • And ideologies
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  • That have shaped our communities with this influx of visitors?
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  • It's a major question, alan.
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  • I mean, we saw in somewhat recent history
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  • The swing of a longtime red state into the blue column
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  • Because of the movement of californians.
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  • And that's a state of colorado.
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  • That was a long time red state.
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  • And with the movement of californians into colorado,
  • 00:16:18.638 --> 00:16:21.340
  • We saw the political dynamics of that state change.
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  • It really is up to state leadership,
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  • And citizens in those states to make sure that they keep
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  • What's great about those states.
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  • And frankly, what's attracting californians
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  • To that state is i understand that there's a sign
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  • On the border of texas that says, don't california.
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  • My texas.
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  • And i think that that's something that
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  • That all states need to be mindful of.
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  • And i'll say on that note, alan,
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  • We just saw the news here of one of our most beloved
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  • Companies here in and out, hamburger in and out.
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  • Burger, has moved some of their corporate offices
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  • To nashville as well. and so,
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  • In that case, i'd say there's some good mission alignment
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  • There between that company and tennessee.
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  • But it is something that we
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  • That for
  • 00:17:11.124 --> 00:17:12.358
  • Those who are concerned about the future of their states,
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  • Really need to look after know, i guess, to not create panic.
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  • We've seen this kind of movement
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  • Previously in american history,
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  • And as you said, it was driven economically,
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  • An enormous migration from the south
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  • To other parts of the country where there are
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  • Economic opportunities that were better.
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  • So maybe we're just seeing
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  • The next iteration of that type of economic shift.
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  • Well, and it's very possible again,
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  • I mean, we're seeing so many californians leaving the state.
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  • It really is
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  • The major indictment of progressive policy in the state
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  • Is when people actually make the very difficult, decision
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  • To move out of state, usually for economic reasons,
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  • That it's it's my hope that with the kinds of things
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  • That we're talking about, this mayor's race, for example,
  • 00:17:59.739 --> 00:18:02.942
  • Where people are understanding
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  • The progressive pendulum is just swung too far,
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  • That there might be a
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  • Rebalancing and that really more to the center and center,
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  • Right where which is where i think most americans are.
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  • Well, i'm interesting.
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  • One of the places i think the the pendulum has swung
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  • Too far is in academia.
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  • And you're at the heart of that.
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  • You recently posted on x
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  • About being a generation x parent of college students,
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  • And what this generation of parents
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  • Doesn't understand about the current campus experience.
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  • Last question.
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  • Can you help us understand that a little bit?
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  • Yeah.
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  • As someone who, graduated from college in the late 80s,
  • 00:18:39.712 --> 00:18:43.849
  • Gen x is one where we are now
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  • Parents of those going into college and university.
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  • I think many of us don't understand
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  • How much has changed ideologically on america's
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  • College campuses just in the last 10 or 15 years.
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  • I think for those of us who were conservatives
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  • In their undergraduate experience as i was,
  • 00:19:02.335 --> 00:19:05.705
  • I never felt that i had to write a paper,
  • 00:19:05.705 --> 00:19:09.775
  • For the politic, for the professor's political leanings.
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  • But that really has changed.
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  • And i think being mindful of that ideological shift
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  • Just in the last ten years is, frankly,
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  • What is necessary to be good parents of kids
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  • Going to college and, frankly, good consumers,
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  • Of education on behalf of our kids.
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  • Yeah. i think that's so wise.
  • 00:19:34.166 --> 00:19:35.301
  • We can't just send our kids off to school anymore.
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  • We have to pay attention.
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  • Pete, thank you for your time and insight today.
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  • We hope to see you again very soon.
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  • I look forward to it. thanks so much.
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  • And in a moment, your emails.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • Thank you for taking the time to send your emails.
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  • Your thoughts, questions and opinions are always a highlight.
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  • Melvin from pennsylvania wrote i would just like to comment
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  • That one of the reasons so many christians don't vote
  • 00:20:09.835 --> 00:20:12.605
  • Is because of the end times fiction being preached
  • 00:20:12.605 --> 00:20:15.207
  • From so many pulpits.
  • 00:20:15.207 --> 00:20:16.742
  • Christians have an escapist eschatology and are content
  • 00:20:16.742 --> 00:20:19.679
  • To just hunker down and wait to be raptured out.
  • 00:20:19.679 --> 00:20:23.215
  • Well, melvin, i think you're right.
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  • And i would encourage everybody,
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  • Regardless of your personal eschatology,
  • 00:20:26.218 --> 00:20:29.388
  • We want to stay fully engaged
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  • In the purposes of god until we can't.
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  • No sitting in the bleachers.
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  • I don't want to get caught
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  • Burying my talents when the lord returns.
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  • So don't let your opinion
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  • Of how this thing is going to come to an end
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  • Keep you from fully engaging in serving the king.
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  • I agree with melvin ross from connecticut,
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  • Said i was moved to do an online search
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  • For christian action groups in the state of connecticut.
  • 00:20:53.145 --> 00:20:56.215
  • I was hoping to find conservative
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  • Minded people of faith working within our political structure.
  • 00:20:57.983 --> 00:21:01.487
  • What came back depressed and shocked me.
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  • Green initiative, climate change.
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  • Illegal alien advocacy.
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  • Anti second amendment lobbyist, lgbtq rights,
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  • A host of other far left social and political movements.
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  • A huge number of churches in this state
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  • Are incredibly lost, demonically led.
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  • I should have known this, but i was shaken,
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  • Even chilled by how completely the church has fallen.
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  • I guess i now
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  • Have a whole new set of prayers to take to the lord.
  • 00:21:24.210 --> 00:21:26.779
  • Well, ross,
  • 00:21:26.779 --> 00:21:28.047
  • It feels to me like the lord is mobilizing you for a new place.
  • 00:21:28.047 --> 00:21:31.484
  • God has never demanded a majority.
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  • He just looks for people whose hearts
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  • Are fully committed to him and to that handful of people.
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  • God will move heaven and earth to see his purposes break forth.
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  • This determined to be that group of people.
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  • Finally, linda in ohio emailed,
  • 00:21:45.731 --> 00:21:47.666
  • I struggle with the fact that these people performing
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  • And getting abortions say it's a blob of tissue,
  • 00:21:50.069 --> 00:21:53.272
  • And yet how do they think they got here?
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  • It frustrates me
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  • That they can't see the truth about their own beginning.
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  • Linda, i think with the abortion discussion,
  • 00:21:59.378 --> 00:22:01.313
  • We have a lot of willful ignorance.
  • 00:22:01.313 --> 00:22:03.416
  • It's just too uncomfortable to deal with the plain truth.
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  • You keep telling the truth.
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  • I believe god will help us.
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  • Thank you for spending a few minutes of your day with us.
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  • God's moving in the earth. let's be a part.
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  • God bless you and good night.
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