Fleur Hassan-Nahoum joins Allen Jackson to discuss the ongoing war in the Middle East.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Ongoing War | Allen Jackson Now | June 23, 2025
- Good evening.
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- I'm alan jackson, and welcome to nashville.
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- It's not going to happen overnight,
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- But it's becoming more and more clear
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- That the citizens of israel are on the verge of a new day.
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- The leadership in iran,
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- Or what's left of it, is being wiped out.
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- One fighter jet, one missile launcher, one nuclear plant
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- And one evil public statement at a time.
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- The ayatollah khomeini is 86 years old.
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- He's in declining health.
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- Much of his senior staff are now gone.
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- Yet running a repressive regime that he took over
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- When ayatollah khomeini died in 1989.
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- Khamenei was the one in charge when our embassy was overrun
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- And our diplomats held hostage for 444 days.
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- They were let free only after ronald reagan took office.
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- Describing both of these so-called supreme
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- Leaders with the word evil doesn't seem like enough to me.
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- The only supreme thing they've done is frighten
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- The iranian population into living in fear for decades.
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- Generations of good people are terrified
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- That if they say or do the wrong thing,
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- They'll be thrown in prison, never to be seen again.
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- And it
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- Isn't just the people of israel
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- That they've been showering their hate on.
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- It's the citizens of that nation of israel,
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- The american military troops base throughout the mideast,
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- And anyone else
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- Who didn't fit their agenda of a world takeover.
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- Well, now the end seems near for this hateful harmony.
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- He spent his years building up hamas, hezbollah
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- And the houthis, as well
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- As the equally tyrannical assad regime in syria.
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- But the landscape has changed, and he knows it.
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- Assad was toppled.
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- Hezbollah and hamas have been decimated.
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- And the houthis, they're next on the chopping block.
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- The people of israel,
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- It seems like they've seen it all.
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- It's been their most stressful
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- Period possible since that attack on october 7th
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- On those innocent concert goers.
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- But this is a strong population.
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- They're survivors. they never give up.
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- Well,
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- Joining us today is the former deputy mayor of jerusalem
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- And now a special envoy for israel's foreign ministry.
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- Our friend flora's on the home.
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- Welcome back to our show.
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- Thank you so much.
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- It's great to be with you.
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- You know, this interview
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- Was supposed to happen with me and israel.
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- We're going to get to sit down face to face.
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- But as you know, the flights were canceled.
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- I'll be back.
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- We'll get to meet again in jerusalem.
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- But for now, perhaps
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- We can start with telling us how you've been surviving
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- Through this constant shelling from iran.
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- Well, it's been a week, but you have to understand
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- How exhausted we all are
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- Because we've been at war since october 7th.
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- We've been receiving rockets here since october 7th.
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- From gaza.
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- From october 8th. from hezbollah.
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- And then last year,
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- Just for kicks, the hottest decided to join in.
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- And they've been sending rockets for over a year and a half.
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- So we're a country under attack already for a year and a half.
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- But last thursday night was different.
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- I was at a wedding.
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- We got how we went to sleep,
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- And all of a sudden we got woken up
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- At three in the morning by our own government
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- Telling us, not that there were attacks coming in,
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- But that israel had actually attacked iran
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- And that the retaliation could be very wrong.
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- And so we should all stay in shelters.
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- That was last thursday night.
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- And it's been a week.
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- And it's almost unbelievable that every single night
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- We've had a terrible rocket attack with
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- More than 1,000 pound
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- Bombs on these missiles.
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- They have 1,000 pound warheads on these missiles.
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- It's kind of crazy to think, 24 people have died.
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- There's over 100 injured.
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- And this morning,
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- They hit a hospital, a surgical unit, and.
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- And the children's part of the hospital.
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- It was a miracle.
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- That hospital protocol was changed yesterday.
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- Imagine this yesterday in order to get everybody
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- Out of the way and not have them in the surgical unit.
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- So it's nothing.
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- We're seeing miracles every day.
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- Well, it may be too early to feel
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- Any real sense of relief, but are the people you live around?
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- Are they aware that iran and
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- Harmony is about to be yesterday's news?
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- Well, i'm praying that that's true.
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- We've managed to kill a lot of the senior military.
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- The whole of the air force.
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- I mean, and so create history as well.
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- Israel faked
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- A meeting,
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- Invited them all to this meeting,
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- And then when they were in the same room, they got eliminated.
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- The head of military intelligence is.
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- Reports that whoever's
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- Been able to escape to moscow is escaping to moscow.
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- But you still have that very toxic khomeini
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- Who is the head of this snake.
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- And i have to add, is responsible
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- For the murder of 600 american servicemen and women.
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- This is a guy who it.
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- Like any of us, not jews, not christians,
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- Not any infidels, as far as you see
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- That he's an apocalyptic, genocidal,
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- Extremist jihadi, a danger to the world.
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- The hitler of our time.
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- And this regime has to fall if we're going to be having any,
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- Peace, of, prosperity in this region,
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- But not just this region.
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- The minute that this regime has a weapon of mass
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- Destruction, has a nuclear weapon,
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- They will not only use it on israel and the region,
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- But as soon as they have intercontinental capabilities,
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- They will be using it on america because they say very clean.
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- Death to israel. death to america.
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- Little satan, big satan.
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- And when people keep telling you they want to kill you,
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- It is our obligation to believe them.
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- When we last met in israel.
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- You made a very convincing point about how much of the world
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- Doesn't understand
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- The breadth of the multifaceted population in israel.
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- You were the deputy mayor, and you did quite a lot
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- To build a thriving coexistence among many cultures.
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- Tell us a little bit more
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- About how you did it and how things are now.
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- So jerusalem is the most diverse city in the state of israel.
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- 40% of the population here is muslim.
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- And we have orthodox
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- Jews, christian communities,
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- We have regular,
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- Secular and religious of different types.
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- It's a very, very diverse city here in jerusalem,
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- And a lot of people see it as the core of the challenge
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- Because of the holy sites, etc.
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- But i actually see it as the laboratory
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- For this generation, because
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- We've done so much bridge building economic development
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- Between communities.
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- I myself, had founded a number of stations
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- To advance women, arab and i'm jewish women alike.
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- And it, and the proof of that past
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- Is that on the 7th of october, yael sinwar
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- Actually believed that he would do this massacre.
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- He would inspire the
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- Arabs in israel and the arabs specifically in jerusalem,
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- To rise up and kill their jewish nodes.
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- And it didn't happen.
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- And i want to believe
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- That part of the reason why it didn't happen
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- Is because of all of the bridge building work
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- That we have been doing for
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- The last ten years here in the city.
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- Amen.
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- There's no place in the world quite like jerusalem.
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- That's right.
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- We need to take a short break.
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- But we'd like you to stay for another segment if you can.
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- Sure. we'll be right back.
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- Sure. we'll be right back.
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- We're back
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- Now with the special envoy from israel's foreign ministry.
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- Floor. hassan, the room.
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- There's so much progress that was being made prior
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- To october the 7th.
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- Several countries in the region have been looking for peace.
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- And more than just a coexistence with their neighbors.
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- What do you think could develop once iran and its proxies
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- Are totally eliminated?
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- Well, it's going to be a different region.
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- And in a also a digital world.
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- Iran has been essentially,
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- Like i said earlier, the head of a snake.
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- They have been
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- They their strategy was not to get their hands dirty,
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- But to create proxies around israel to choke israel.
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- So they were funding, aiding and abetting, from us
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- In, in the southern part
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- In our southern border with israel, hezbollah,
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- In the northern border with israel.
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- Hezbollah was actually their main proxy.
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- So very powerful proxy that they had just
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- Borrowed was doing the dirty work for them.
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- They were also funding and helping the hotels.
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- And they also have, shiite militias in iraq that in fact
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- Attacked, the american embassy in baghdad not so long ago.
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- So this was always
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- Iran structured in the islamic republic of iran strategy.
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- And what happened was what started on october 7th,
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- They believed would be the beginning of the end of israel.
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- And and in the end, miraculously, it's the beginning
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- Of the end of them of the islamic republic.
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- Because once we managed to,
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- Go in and eliminate much of, some us,
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- But actually much more significantly,
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- When it comes to iran, we killed nasrallah.
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- Nasrallah was a very powerful figure, almost irreplaceable
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- In, in, in the hezbollah organization.
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- Nobody's replaced him.
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- And in fact, people think that iran influenced nasrallah,
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- But in fact, national was actually a very,
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- Very significant influence in the islamic republic of iran.
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- He was an extremist that actually pushed the agenda
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- In iran.
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- And imagine where we're at right now.
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- That after the operation was the beginning of the end
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- Of crystal ball, we then killed nasrallah,
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- And then after that, as a result of that, syria,
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- The assad regime in syria fell because it was
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- Hezbollah propping them up.
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- So you've got syria now with the entire air
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- Space that we can slide through,
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- Because they don't want to pick a fight with us.
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- And you've got hezbollah gone
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- And incredibly on
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- Last friday, after we started the attack, hezbollah
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- Came out and said, oh, we're going to skip this fight.
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- I mean, that is something that in a million years
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- You wouldn't believe would happen.
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- And the reason is because we've completely dry them out
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- And we've completely cut their legs off with their hands
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- And they've got nothing to fight with.
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- And so the whole
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- Set of circumstances, in order for us to be successful in iran,
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- It's all of those circumstances,
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- All of us beginning to eliminate the proxies around
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- Israel that iran set up in order to do this.
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- And again, we see the miracles every day.
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- I think the surprise attack on iran was a little odd.
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- I think flawlessly, i want to believe that
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- President trump and, and netanyahu,
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- You know, played the sleight of hand here
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- Because they didn't see it coming.
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- There were, you know, there were, reports of a rift
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- Between a president trump and netanyahu.
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- And it is very clear the dishes or,
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- You know, manufactured change so that,
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- So that the power of surprise,
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- Would remain, which is a very important part
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- Of of trying to start a war where the.
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- I don't want to make this about american politics,
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- But do you think your neighbors
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- Understand the change in support since mr.
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- Trump and jd vance took over?
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- Oh, i mean, there's no doubt.
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- There's no doubt.
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- Look, how did this way past up?
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- One of the hostages came out.
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- Thank god came out in one of the last deals,
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- And she was interviewed by an american mainstream journal.
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- And he said in this interview, hamas wanted kamila to win.
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- What does that tell you?
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- That's enough.
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- Well, let's build on that message.
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- You're speaking to the american people.
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- What do you want to tell them?
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- What do you say to the american people
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- That i think overwhelmingly
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- Support israel and understand that we share values
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- And that our values are what civilization is about?
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- It's these values that will take us into the next century.
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- And they are they are at risk.
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- There are play.
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- And israel is standing as a lone voice.
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- Yes. with american help in our defense.
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- But we don't win wars by stepping away from the fight.
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- And you don't get rid of evil
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- By waiting for something to happen.
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- If we get rid of evil, it's
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- Because we have to get rid of the evil, not cells.
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- We have to, do the action.
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- We have to act in the face of evil because it's
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- Not actually in the face of evil that is enabling evil.
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- And that's why israel has been today.
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- Amen.
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- Well, thank you for sharing your time with us today.
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- Sure.
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- I very much look forward to being back in jerusalem
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- And getting to see you and your neighbors in person.
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- Me too.
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- So looking forward to having you back.
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- God bless you. we are praying.
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- God bless you.
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- In a moment
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- I'll have some thoughts of my own about our future together.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We'll be right back.
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- The nations of the earth
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- Are calling for a cease fire between israel and iran.
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- But the reality is to have a legitimate peace deal
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- Between israel and iran. you have to have
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- People of integrity with which to negotiate.
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- And iran doesn't meet that standard.
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- Hamas, which is funded and supported by iran, attacked
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- Israel on october the 7th, 2023.
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- I was later invited to the israeli embassy
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- In washington, d.c., to view footage of that attack.
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- What i saw was just horrific things.
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- I can't i wouldn't describe in this format.
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- It wasn't human behavior.
- 00:14:32.622 --> 00:14:34.590
- I grew up around animals and animals treat each other
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- Better than what i watched in those videos.
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- They abused wives and daughters while their husbands watched,
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- And then they murdered the husbands
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- As the wives and daughters watched.
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- They said, babies on fire.
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- We've always known that
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- Some in the muslim world hated the jews.
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- That was a news.
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- But what shocked me was the depth of anti-semitism
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- In our own nation.
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- I wasn't prepared for academic institutions, politicians
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- And cultural leaders to defend hamas and their behavior.
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- Well, now,
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- Israel's been at war for over 600 days.
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- They were caught in a multi-front war,
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- Surrounded by hezbollah in the north.
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- Syria, iranian backed forces.
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- 20 months ago, survival seemed truthfully impossible.
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- Yet today, hamas has been decimated.
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- Hezbollah has lost influence.
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- Syria's leadership is gone.
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- Iran's defenses are weakened.
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- What's happened in the last 20 months was impossible,
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- With just a secular natural perspective.
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- It just couldn't be done.
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- And yet it has been done.
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- That alone should lead us to seek a deeper understanding.
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- There's something happening here more than just politics.
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- As christians,
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- We need an awareness to what's happening
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- And to recognize that israel does matter.
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- I don't believe that you can understand the bible
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- If you don't have some insight and understanding
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- Into the role of israel and the jewish people.
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- I think the most significant principle
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- Is that the jewish people, the nation of israel,
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- Are a chosen people, chosen by god.
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- Whether we like it or not. it's just true.
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- In the new
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- Testament, the word israel occurs 77 times.
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- The word jew occurs
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- 75 times in the old testament, 188 times in the new testament.
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- As a matter of comparison, the term christian.
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- It appears three times.
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- Well, this gives us some sense of the significance god attaches
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- To the people in the nation of israel.
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- Israel is a unique people.
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- Listen to the words of king david.
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- It's first chronicles 17.
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- He said, you made your people israel your very own forever.
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- And you, o lord, have become their god.
- 00:16:34.977 --> 00:16:38.014
- See, there's just no one else like the people of israel
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- In history and god's economy and god's relationship
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- With adam and his descendants, the jewish people were chosen.
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- So when we pray, let's just all pray for israel
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- As if she were like all the other nations.
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- Let's instead pray in alignment with the word of god.
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- If we do that,
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- I promise there are more reasons for hope than despair.
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- And we will see them.
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- I'll be back with your emails in just a moment.
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- Stay with us.
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- Stay with us.
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- Just a reminder that if you
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- Ever miss an episode, you can go to aj now.com.
- 00:17:17.985 --> 00:17:21.255
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- I always appreciate your emails.
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- Diane from massachusetts wrote the judge.
- 00:17:30.664 --> 00:17:32.933
- Good episodes were so compelling that i viewed them twice.
- 00:17:32.933 --> 00:17:36.237
- The caveats he so astutely voiced
- 00:17:36.237 --> 00:17:38.172
- That there is no democracy without morality and no truth,
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- If it's cultural and not god's absolute truth are jarring.
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- The only remedy to restore the king to his rightful throne
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- Everywhere, especially in the public arena.
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- Diane, you are so right.
- 00:17:51.719 --> 00:17:53.687
- And i think that has to fundamentally begin
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- With the people of faith. it has to be carried into our churches.
- 00:17:55.723 --> 00:17:57.191
- Don't sit in a church
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- That denies the authoritative truth of the word of god.
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- It's not helpful.
- 00:18:04.765 --> 00:18:06.834
- Then a
- 00:18:07.034 --> 00:18:08.135
- Youtube viewer commented on the ron dermer episode.
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- Thank you for your staunch support of israel, pastor allen,
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- And your explanation of why
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- Christians should be supporting and praying for israel.
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- Well, you're welcome.
- 00:18:18.245 --> 00:18:19.146
- I believe it's a part of our assignment,
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- And it's a very important time
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- To know the places god has asked us to stand.
- 00:18:22.983 --> 00:18:26.754
- The difference in christians and non-christians
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- Should be more than where we sit
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- For a few minutes on a sunday morning.
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- Then dwight from virginia wrote, every elected official
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- Has to swear to the best of their ability
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- To do all to ensure our safety, security, common good,
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- And the pursuit of liberty and happiness.
- 00:18:41.235 --> 00:18:43.337
- Why would a judge be held to a lower standard?
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- I think that's a very good question, dwight.
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- Unfortunately, we're seeing far too many judges of late
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- Who pursue
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- Their personal preferences before they uphold the law.
- 00:18:53.647 --> 00:18:56.483
- That's malpractice.
- 00:18:56.951 --> 00:18:58.586
- And we're going to have to have the courage to say it.
- 00:18:58.586 --> 00:19:00.588
- God is moving in the earth.
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- He's realigning the roles of nations,
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- And i want to be certain that i'm moving with him.
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- And i hope you are as well.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- I want to thank you for spending a few minutes
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- With us for the program today, and i pray that you
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- Have a wonderful evening.
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