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Allen Jackson: Political Landscape | Allen Jackson Now

June 2, 2026 | 22:41

Allen Jackson: Political Landscape | Allen Jackson Now
Jeffre Lord joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Political Landscape | Allen Jackson Now | June 2, 2026
  • Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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  • I'm alan jackson.
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  • There's an old saying that those who cannot remember
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  • The past are condemned to repeat it.
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  • As i look at the headlines today, i can't help but wonder
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  • If america is living through one of those moments
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  • When history has something important to teach us.
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  • When ronald reagan took office in 1981,
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  • The country was facing a series of challenges.
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  • Economic growth was sluggish,
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  • Inflation was squeezing family budgets,
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  • And there was a growing sense that government
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  • Spending and regulation were making it harder
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  • For businesses to grow and create jobs.
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  • While overseas, the soviet union had invaded afghanistan.
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  • Tensions with iran.
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  • They remained high after 52 americans had been held
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  • Hostage for more than 440 days in washington.
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  • While they were deeply divided as congressional democrats
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  • Pushed back aggressively against much of reagan's agenda.
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  • And then came the unthinkable.
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  • A young man attempted to assassinate the president
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  • Of the united states outside the washington hilton.
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  • Sound familiar?
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  • Well, authorities recently prevented
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  • What could have been a devastating attack
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  • At the same washington hilton where reagan was targeted.
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  • This time, during the annual white house correspondents
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  • Dinner, one of washington's most high profile events.
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  • In one room where the president, the vice president, cabinet
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  • Officials, members of congress, and hundreds of journalists.
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  • This was the third attempt targeting president trump
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  • Following the shooting in butler, pennsylvania,
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  • And a separate alleged plot at one of his golf courses.
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  • What makes this story particularly unsettling
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  • Is that the suspect was not someone living
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  • On the fringes of society.
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  • He was a teacher with degrees
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  • In mechanical engineering and computer science.
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  • Someone who, on paper at least appeared to be educated
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  • And accomplished.
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  • Which brings us to the larger question.
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  • At what point does heated rhetoric create an environment
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  • Where individuals begin
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  • To view violence as a legitimate answer?
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  • We see spiritual forces of darkness expressed
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  • With increasing boldness and frequency.
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  • It seems, in very tangible ways.
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  • What happened at the white house? correspondents dinner?
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  • It's not something new.
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  • God's protection is clearly been upon president trump.
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  • I'm grateful for that.
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  • But shortly after that incident, the correspondents dinner,
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  • While watching the news for just a few minutes,
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  • I saw a collection of talking heads on mainstream media,
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  • And they were saying
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  • It was trump's fault that his rhetoric is so mean.
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  • These so-called experts blamed him.
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  • They were blaming the intended victim.
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  • It's bizarre.
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  • How many attempts on
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  • President trump's life will it take
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  • For mainstream media to start treating it
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  • With the same weightiness that it deserves?
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  • Just days before the shooting at the correspondents dinner.
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  • Late night host jimmy
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  • Kimmel mocked president trump and first lady melania trump.
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  • It's the white house correspondents dinner parody.
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  • Kimmel said melania had the look of an expectant widow.
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  • We have powerful voices, celebrities,
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  • Influential people who call evil good and good evil.
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  • If you're a christ follower, i'm here to tell you it's wicked.
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  • Those are not appropriate responses.
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  • They wrap themselves
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  • In the garments of tolerance and kindness.
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  • Well, they say trump is mean, he's
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  • Nasty, and his language is inappropriate.
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  • But we must recognize
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  • The lawlessness and violence we are seeing.
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  • It goes further than just hateful rhetoric.
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  • In this season of change.
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  • We are watching
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  • A very visible demonstration of a spiritual conflict.
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  • We're seeing collision of kingdoms.
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  • And i'm not talking about politics.
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  • It's a collision of worldviews,
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  • Of values, of good and evil, of dark and light.
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  • It was back in 1963.
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  • Republicans were initially blamed
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  • For the assassination of democrat president
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  • John f kennedy.
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  • But as it turned out, he was assassinated
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  • By a communist loving lee harvey oswald.
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  • Senator robert f kennedy,
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  • Father of our hhs secretary today, rfk jr.
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  • Well, in 1968, he was assassinated by a
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  • Pro-palestinian zealot angry over rfk support for israel.
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  • There's a
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  • Downstream consequence to a person's worldview.
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  • Now, that's not saying that every communist is an assassin
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  • Or every palestinian supporter is an assassin.
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  • But a person's worldview, it matters.
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  • I heard an interview recently with some democratic strategist,
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  • And one said, well, of course we're never in favor
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  • Of violence.
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  • My reaction to that is, and you must condemn it.
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  • You can't have it both ways.
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  • There are enormous attempts to normalize
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  • The most perverse behavior.
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  • Evil is often celebrated.
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  • Our culture is plummeting into the abyss.
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  • And we as the church
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  • Have been distracted by secondary issues long enough.
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  • We must use our voices
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  • When we see something that is patently evil.
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  • We can't be silent and act like we don't notice.
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  • We become so intimidated by the pressure of the culture
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  • That we won't say the truth that we know.
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  • You see, jesus was either a liar or he is who he says he is.
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  • Jesus said he was the way, the truth, and the life,
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  • And that no one comes to the father except through him.
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  • If we don't believe in the exceptionalism
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  • Of the christian faith, we should abandon it.
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  • We must have a determination that's equal to
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  • Or greater than our adversary, or we're surrendering.
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  • We've been apologizing
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  • For our biblical worldview for far too long.
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  • As christians, if we will use our voices,
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  • We can give courage to the general public.
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  • Well, coming up next,
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  • We're going to be joined by the political director
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  • In the reagan white house,
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  • Jeffrey lord, right after this short break.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • Well, tonight we're joined by a man
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  • That had a front row seat
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  • To one of the greatest presidents
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  • When he was a political advisor for president ronald reagan.
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  • Jeffrey lord, welcome to the show.
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  • Good to be here. good to be here.
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  • Time has moved on. it certainly has.
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  • You know,
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  • We're in the middle of another election cycle,
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  • But you've been navigating
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  • Political campaigns and the ways of washington for many years.
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  • What are your thoughts on the current political climate
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  • We're experiencing versus what we've seen in past seasons?
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  • Well, you always have to watch these midterm elections.
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  • President reagan, as i vividly
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  • Remember, was elected in a 44 state landslide in 1980.
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  • And come 1982, we had absolutely clobbered
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  • In the midterm elections.
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  • And then the cycle repeated.
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  • He carried 49 states in 1984.
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  • And in 1986, when i was seriously involved
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  • As a white house political director,
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  • We got clobbered again.
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  • Midterms, generally speaking,
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  • Can be a tough road to haul for, an incumbent president.
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  • And and they are subject incredibly to,
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  • You know, what, what is going on or what is not going on.
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  • That begins, first of all, always with the economy.
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  • And then when you go from there, heaven forbid that
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  • There's some sort of drastic, foreign policy event.
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  • I think back to when i was a little kid
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  • And just watching all this from a distance and,
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  • Learning that the 1962 elections were going to be expected
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  • To go heavily for republicans in the off year election.
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  • And all of a sudden, president kennedy was faced
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  • With what we now know in history as the cuban missile crisis,
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  • Which brought the country to the brink of nuclear war.
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  • He was on tv saving the country, the world.
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  • It was quite a different thing.
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  • And lo and behold, the elections turned out very differently.
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  • So not that
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  • I think we're going to have
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  • A missile crisis on the way, but i am saying
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  • That you never know what's going to happen here.
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  • And foreign policy.
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  • And it is, all too frequently behind beyond
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  • The president's control.
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  • Well, i was a college student
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  • When president reagan was in office.
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  • And i remember even then
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  • Being captivated by the courage that i felt like he displayed
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  • In addressing the challenges in the world.
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  • I saw a video clip from president reagan in 1983.
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  • I want to show it to you and then ask for a reaction.
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  • Let's watch the clip first.
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  • I urge you to be aware of the temptation of pride,
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  • The temptation of blithely,
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  • Declaring yourselves above it all and and label both sides
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  • Equally at fault
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  • For not
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  • To ignore the facts of history and the aggressive impulses
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  • Of an evil empire,
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  • To simply call the arms race a giant misunderstanding,
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  • And thereby remove yourself from the struggle between
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  • Right and wrong and good and evil.
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  • You know, he was speaking to a group of faith
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  • Leaders challenging them to engage culture.
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  • Well, you know, it's you know,
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  • One of the interesting things about that speech
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  • Is that speech went in courtesy, i think, of some of our,
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  • Reagan speechwriters
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  • And some of the other staff or senior staff who were not on
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  • The political staff,
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  • Saw it, thought it was awful, and took it out.
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  • And then then it went back in and then out.
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  • And the president was on the way to deliver the speech
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  • And notice it wasn't in, and turned to his chief of staff
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  • At the moment, and said, what do i do?
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  • To which the chief of staff replied.
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  • I think it was jim baker, said, mr.
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  • President, sir, you're the president.
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  • And with that back in it, when?
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  • Well, his courage still speaks to us.
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  • You know, president trump's
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  • Had a pretty remarkable track record in endorsing candidates.
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  • As we walk through this continued election season,
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  • Do you think he's going to be able
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  • To sustain that momentum of influencing the party?
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  • It's possible.
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  • It is possible.
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  • We are
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  • I mean, i know it seems like the election is tomorrow,
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  • But in point of fact,
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  • We've got a ways to go before we get to november.
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  • And as i was saying, anything can happen here.
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  • And, if things remain status quo, it could be a bit
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  • Bit of a rough ride if, in fact, things change.
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  • If, in fact, there is a problem that suddenly requires his
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  • His personal attention, which is
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  • Which is something that happens often enough
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  • Where the president then, wow, you know, look out.
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  • So, be prepared is all i can say.
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  • Well, reagan came
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  • From his political platform in california, and california
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  • Is front and center today in the election news.
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  • Have you got any feeling for what's going to happen?
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  • There's some pretty significant races there these days.
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  • Yeah, i think that'll be very interesting.
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  • It's going to be very interesting to see whether
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  • There it is still a thoroughly democratic state.
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  • And i tend to think that it may be, but, if
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  • There is a change of any kind, we will see it in california.
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  • Has become sort of the barometer for,
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  • What goes on in the rest of the country.
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  • And, i'm not so sure at the moment that this bodes
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  • Well for republicans. but we will see.
  • 00:11:10.128 --> 00:11:12.697
  • We have a ways to go here.
  • 00:11:12.697 --> 00:11:14.866
  • And, you know, just again, to get back to president reagan
  • 00:11:14.866 --> 00:11:17.468
  • By way of one anecdote, i read this story.
  • 00:11:17.468 --> 00:11:21.239
  • I went back, did a little research in 1965, in the,
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  • New york times.
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  • There was a front page story that said that the california
  • 00:11:28.880 --> 00:11:32.517
  • Republican party establishment was panicked
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  • Because actor ronald reagan was saying
  • 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:38.556
  • He was going to run for governor of california.
  • 00:11:38.556 --> 00:11:41.259
  • And the establishment republicans said,
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  • If that happens, we'll get clobbered,
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  • Just like barry goldwater had been clobbered for president
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  • A year earlier.
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  • And, oh, what are we going to do?
  • 00:11:50.067 --> 00:11:51.335
  • What are we going to do?
  • 00:11:51.335 --> 00:11:52.570
  • Well, of course, the situation turned out a lot differently.
  • 00:11:52.570 --> 00:11:56.440
  • It sure did.
  • 00:11:56.774 --> 00:11:58.075
  • You know, political actions in controlling the media narrative
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  • Have a sizable outcome on the impact of elections.
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  • But can you tell us a story about a time
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  • You saw this play out at some point in your history
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  • In politics
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  • That that which the how it plays out
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  • And how those narratives shape those outcomes so dramatically?
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  • Yeah, yeah.
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  • Well, what happens is that, you know, i'll go back
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  • To another election cycle from when i was a kid
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  • And lbj wins in a landslide over goldwater in 1964.
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  • And two years later,
  • 00:12:30.741 --> 00:12:32.276
  • Of all people, there is richard nixon,
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  • Who had been defeated for president in 1960,
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  • Running all over america,
  • 00:12:38.783 --> 00:12:41.118
  • Campaigning for republican candidates,
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  • Including, i might add, actor ronald reagan,
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  • But all kinds of candidates.
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  • And, to the astonishment of all the political seers of the day,
  • 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:53.264
  • Suddenly the election in 1966 goes overwhelmingly republican.
  • 00:12:53.264 --> 00:12:58.703
  • And it was a big deal and a big change.
  • 00:12:58.703 --> 00:13:01.739
  • Which just goes to show you that that, you know, when it set
  • 00:13:01.739 --> 00:13:04.775
  • The stage two years later for nixon himself
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  • To win the presidency.
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  • So you just can't say.
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  • And i just would caution everybody, we are in,
  • 00:13:11.415 --> 00:13:14.986
  • Now in june.
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  • We have a ways to go.
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  • Buckle in.
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  • Well, jeffrey, we need to take a short break.
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  • Can you standby for another segment?
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  • Sure. absolutely.
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  • 00:13:38.006 --> 00:13:43.815
  • Well we're back now with
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  • A former white house political adviser, jeffrey lord.
  • 00:13:45.450 --> 00:13:49.121
  • President trump has been consistent
  • 00:13:49.121 --> 00:13:50.789
  • In his messaging throughout the iran war
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  • That they cannot have a nuclear weapon.
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  • I read where you said that this indicates
  • 00:13:56.061 --> 00:13:57.896
  • That he takes his role as commander in chief
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  • With deadly seriousness.
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  • Can you tell us a bit more about that perspective?
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  • Yeah.
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  • You know, i think it's very interesting
  • 00:14:06.738 --> 00:14:08.040
  • With president trump that he is the first president we've had,
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  • Maybe ever who who has not spent his life
  • 00:14:11.076 --> 00:14:14.446
  • In politics before he got to the white house.
  • 00:14:14.446 --> 00:14:18.183
  • And i think that this has given him a unique perspective
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  • In engaging the political scene,
  • 00:14:22.387 --> 00:14:25.624
  • Not just domestically in the country,
  • 00:14:25.624 --> 00:14:27.225
  • But foreign policy and dealing with america's enemies.
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  • He's not shy about speaking out.
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  • He's not shy about taking action.
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  • I think he felt that, and still feels
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  • That iran was trying to get a nuclear weapon
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  • And that if they were successful
  • 00:14:42.341 --> 00:14:44.076
  • In getting it, they would in fact use it.
  • 00:14:44.076 --> 00:14:46.712
  • So i think that that drives his,
  • 00:14:46.712 --> 00:14:49.548
  • His energy and his motivation
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  • And his thought process as we go along here with this.
  • 00:14:51.984 --> 00:14:55.620
  • I mean, this is a really bad situation.
  • 00:14:55.620 --> 00:14:58.090
  • And one of the things
  • 00:14:58.090 --> 00:14:59.024
  • That he has to deal with is, i suspect that
  • 00:14:59.024 --> 00:15:02.728
  • We will probably find out more as we go along, but i suspect
  • 00:15:02.728 --> 00:15:05.597
  • The iranian government is not as united as we might.
  • 00:15:05.597 --> 00:15:09.401
  • Some people on our side might think that it is.
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  • And that being the case. wow.
  • 00:15:12.137 --> 00:15:14.806
  • You know, they've got all kinds of problems.
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  • Who's the leader? who's not the leader?
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  • Who's in charge?
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  • Who's not in charge, etc..
  • 00:15:20.078 --> 00:15:22.447
  • That's going to play a big role in all of this, too.
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  • You know, sometimes it's too easy
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  • For americans to think that they're
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  • Dealing with the united enemy.
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  • And quite frequently that's not the case.
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  • Well, you know, there have been many opinions expressed
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  • That president trump,
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  • In comparison to president reagan
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  • And other policies, have lined up.
  • 00:15:38.764 --> 00:15:41.066
  • You certainly had a front row seat with president reagan.
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  • Do you see any of those parallels?
  • 00:15:43.235 --> 00:15:45.704
  • Absolutely.
  • 00:15:45.704 --> 00:15:46.438
  • And as a matter of fact,
  • 00:15:46.438 --> 00:15:47.906
  • When president trump first ran for for offer, the presidency,
  • 00:15:47.906 --> 00:15:52.277
  • I was on another network and i would be asked from time
  • 00:15:52.277 --> 00:15:54.679
  • To time about this and i would compare,
  • 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:58.350
  • Private citizen donald trump to
  • 00:15:58.984 --> 00:16:01.086
  • And candidate donald trump to president reagan.
  • 00:16:01.086 --> 00:16:04.389
  • And at one point,
  • 00:16:04.823 --> 00:16:06.758
  • He said to me, you know, you're always comparing me
  • 00:16:06.758 --> 00:16:08.927
  • To president reagan.
  • 00:16:08.927 --> 00:16:09.795
  • And i kind of like it.
  • 00:16:09.795 --> 00:16:13.031
  • Which, which
  • 00:16:13.031 --> 00:16:14.533
  • I was certainly glad to hear that, there's no question.
  • 00:16:14.533 --> 00:16:18.203
  • But i do think that there are a lot of similarities,
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  • And i think one of them is that both of them
  • 00:16:20.672 --> 00:16:23.008
  • Came into the political world from outside of politics.
  • 00:16:23.008 --> 00:16:26.578
  • And in doing that, they they had already formed an opinion
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  • And a belief on how to act in the political world.
  • 00:16:31.550 --> 00:16:35.220
  • I remember when i first got to know donald trump
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  • As a private citizen and he would talk about this,
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  • That and the other decision being made by republicans
  • 00:16:40.892 --> 00:16:44.129
  • Of the day that he was not all that,
  • 00:16:44.129 --> 00:16:47.966
  • Happy about,
  • 00:16:48.300 --> 00:16:50.068
  • And insisted that, you know, the things could be done
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  • In a different way.
  • 00:16:52.204 --> 00:16:53.038
  • And by the time he got there,
  • 00:16:53.038 --> 00:16:54.673
  • He did do things in a different way.
  • 00:16:54.673 --> 00:16:56.374
  • And i think, frankly, i think that's the key to his strength.
  • 00:16:56.374 --> 00:16:59.144
  • I think that's why so many americans like him.
  • 00:16:59.144 --> 00:17:02.314
  • You know, my one of my memories of president reagan
  • 00:17:02.314 --> 00:17:04.883
  • Was he restored a sense of celebration of our nation.
  • 00:17:04.883 --> 00:17:08.753
  • And i think president trump has tried to do that,
  • 00:17:08.753 --> 00:17:10.922
  • Certainly with his make america great again ideology.
  • 00:17:10.922 --> 00:17:14.259
  • And as we're celebrating our 250th anniversary,
  • 00:17:14.259 --> 00:17:16.995
  • Even with some of the things he's
  • 00:17:16.995 --> 00:17:18.130
  • Doing to kind of remodel dc, but it seems like he's
  • 00:17:18.130 --> 00:17:21.399
  • Criticized at every step for that.
  • 00:17:21.399 --> 00:17:24.002
  • Did reagan get that same kind of consistent criticism?
  • 00:17:24.002 --> 00:17:27.005
  • Oh my goodness, yes.
  • 00:17:27.472 --> 00:17:29.541
  • They went after him all of the time. and,
  • 00:17:29.541 --> 00:17:33.678
  • It was just something that, you know, he finally got used
  • 00:17:33.678 --> 00:17:36.414
  • To, but he, he was such a, happy soul, if you will.
  • 00:17:36.414 --> 00:17:41.153
  • And he was unafraid to stand up to his critics.
  • 00:17:41.153 --> 00:17:45.123
  • And, you know, this business, for instance,
  • 00:17:45.123 --> 00:17:47.993
  • With the with the evil empire and, he was going to
  • 00:17:47.993 --> 00:17:51.930
  • He was bound and determined that he was going to
  • 00:17:51.930 --> 00:17:54.266
  • Call the soviet union what?
  • 00:17:54.266 --> 00:17:55.800
  • He thought it was an evil empire.
  • 00:17:55.800 --> 00:17:57.936
  • And, there were people, as i said, who wanted
  • 00:17:57.936 --> 00:18:00.672
  • To take that out of the speech.
  • 00:18:00.672 --> 00:18:02.140
  • And he put it back in.
  • 00:18:02.140 --> 00:18:04.576
  • He had a very strong views.
  • 00:18:04.576 --> 00:18:06.745
  • And it was helped
  • 00:18:06.745 --> 00:18:08.013
  • That not unlike donald trump, with his own personal background
  • 00:18:08.013 --> 00:18:11.349
  • And in his case, that matched his activities
  • 00:18:11.349 --> 00:18:14.052
  • With the screen actors guild
  • 00:18:14.052 --> 00:18:15.620
  • And fighting communists in the screen actors guild.
  • 00:18:15.620 --> 00:18:18.990
  • That was a very big deal to him.
  • 00:18:18.990 --> 00:18:21.126
  • And in president trump's case, it's dealing with,
  • 00:18:21.126 --> 00:18:23.762
  • You know, all the bureaucracies and all that kind of thing
  • 00:18:23.762 --> 00:18:26.798
  • That he's had to deal
  • 00:18:26.798 --> 00:18:27.966
  • With in his private life to build the trump organization.
  • 00:18:27.966 --> 00:18:31.670
  • You know,
  • 00:18:31.670 --> 00:18:32.904
  • He once told me that when he was starting out in his career,
  • 00:18:32.904 --> 00:18:36.274
  • His father said to him, donald, we are queens people.
  • 00:18:36.274 --> 00:18:41.246
  • And so we you know, you gotta stick to queens.
  • 00:18:41.246 --> 00:18:44.349
  • And this is the way we do things.
  • 00:18:44.349 --> 00:18:46.418
  • And and trump said to me
  • 00:18:46.418 --> 00:18:48.320
  • That as much as he loved his father, he, he decided to
  • 00:18:48.320 --> 00:18:52.224
  • Go to manhattan, which he did, to rent a room
  • 00:18:52.224 --> 00:18:55.393
  • In manhattan and print up business cards on them.
  • 00:18:55.393 --> 00:18:58.496
  • That said the trump organization.
  • 00:18:58.496 --> 00:19:00.665
  • And he, in fact, was the only person in the organization.
  • 00:19:00.665 --> 00:19:05.170
  • And what you see now was what he went on to do
  • 00:19:05.170 --> 00:19:08.173
  • And build on his own, because he was had that
  • 00:19:08.173 --> 00:19:12.010
  • Kind of vision in that drive.
  • 00:19:12.010 --> 00:19:13.445
  • And that is very much like president reagan himself.
  • 00:19:13.445 --> 00:19:17.616
  • Well, jeffrey,
  • 00:19:17.949 --> 00:19:19.050
  • I thank you for the reminders in your time today.
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  • We very much appreciate your thoughtful insight.
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  • You've been my friend. be well.
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  • Wanda from florida wrote i can't believe that
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  • A politician
  • 00:19:58.723 --> 00:19:59.858
  • Would actually hesitate
  • 00:19:59.858 --> 00:20:01.259
  • When to ask if an illegal should be able to vote.
  • 00:20:01.259 --> 00:20:03.828
  • The term illegal should say something
  • 00:20:03.828 --> 00:20:05.997
  • As in other words, it's illegal for them to vote.
  • 00:20:05.997 --> 00:20:08.967
  • They're not a citizen of the united states.
  • 00:20:08.967 --> 00:20:11.503
  • Voting is for citizens of the united states
  • 00:20:11.503 --> 00:20:14.139
  • Only, not for those that sneaked into our country
  • 00:20:14.139 --> 00:20:17.075
  • And are sucking money out of our economy
  • 00:20:17.075 --> 00:20:19.177
  • Without paying their fair share.
  • 00:20:19.177 --> 00:20:21.279
  • Wanda, i agree,
  • 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:22.480
  • But we've lost some fundamental notions of civics,
  • 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:25.183
  • And we've got to begin
  • 00:20:25.183 --> 00:20:26.284
  • To state the plain truth clearly and consistently.
  • 00:20:26.284 --> 00:20:29.087
  • Maybe we will regain our balance.
  • 00:20:29.087 --> 00:20:32.090
  • Sophia from broad channel, new york.
  • 00:20:32.857 --> 00:20:35.493
  • I ask more and more.
  • 00:20:35.493 --> 00:20:36.561
  • I see confused people here in the new york area,
  • 00:20:36.561 --> 00:20:39.331
  • Especially gender wise, and i really think
  • 00:20:39.331 --> 00:20:41.966
  • The spirit is expanding well beyond just new york.
  • 00:20:41.966 --> 00:20:45.070
  • What advice do you have and how to address
  • 00:20:45.070 --> 00:20:46.738
  • Those under this influence?
  • 00:20:46.738 --> 00:20:48.239
  • Because it's also deeply rooted in my
  • 00:20:48.239 --> 00:20:50.008
  • And my husband's families.
  • 00:20:50.008 --> 00:20:51.609
  • Your guidance as well received and regarded.
  • 00:20:51.609 --> 00:20:53.411
  • Thank you.
  • 00:20:53.411 --> 00:20:55.547
  • Well, sophia, i think it's a it's an astute observation.
  • 00:20:55.547 --> 00:20:58.283
  • I assure you, it's not just a new york issue.
  • 00:20:58.283 --> 00:21:01.152
  • That spirit has been unleashed.
  • 00:21:01.152 --> 00:21:03.388
  • It's unsettling.
  • 00:21:03.388 --> 00:21:04.756
  • And i don't think we as christ followers
  • 00:21:04.756 --> 00:21:06.257
  • Should respond with anger or hostility.
  • 00:21:06.257 --> 00:21:08.493
  • Certainly not with violence, but with compassion.
  • 00:21:08.493 --> 00:21:11.229
  • If you're confused about
  • 00:21:11.229 --> 00:21:12.230
  • Something as fundamental as your biological sex,
  • 00:21:12.230 --> 00:21:15.467
  • It's it should be distressing.
  • 00:21:15.467 --> 00:21:17.502
  • It is widespread.
  • 00:21:17.502 --> 00:21:19.070
  • And we've got to begin to tell the truth
  • 00:21:19.070 --> 00:21:20.638
  • In our families and help one another back to a
  • 00:21:20.638 --> 00:21:23.441
  • A more balanced place. there's some hopeful things.
  • 00:21:23.441 --> 00:21:25.910
  • You know, june's been celebrated
  • 00:21:25.910 --> 00:21:27.112
  • As pride month nationally for a while,
  • 00:21:27.112 --> 00:21:29.080
  • But there are some states establishing a new pattern.
  • 00:21:29.080 --> 00:21:31.316
  • Tennessee.
  • 00:21:31.316 --> 00:21:32.350
  • I'm grateful to say, is one, we're celebrating
  • 00:21:32.350 --> 00:21:34.085
  • Nuclear family month and we're not alone.
  • 00:21:34.085 --> 00:21:36.221
  • Arkansas, indiana, alabama.
  • 00:21:36.221 --> 00:21:38.390
  • Maybe it'll grow nationwide.
  • 00:21:38.390 --> 00:21:40.492
  • Keep praying.
  • 00:21:40.492 --> 00:21:41.659
  • The kingdom of god is alive and well on planet earth.
  • 00:21:41.659 --> 00:21:45.363
  • A viewer on youtube noted.
  • 00:21:45.930 --> 00:21:47.365
  • Great questions, great conversations.
  • 00:21:47.365 --> 00:21:50.068
  • This could be a mainstream network.
  • 00:21:50.068 --> 00:21:52.170
  • Three crosses network national.
  • 00:21:52.170 --> 00:21:54.572
  • I like it.
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  • Well, i appreciate the affirmation.
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  • We have a bit of a day job.
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  • We will do what god asks.
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  • I'll keep you posted.
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  • And finally, roman from frederick, colorado.
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  • I tried to watch this year's k-love awards show.
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  • Can you explain why christian artists go woke?
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  • It seems that
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  • They are pandering to hollywood and this is not necessary.
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  • I guess money corrupts said that is happening.
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  • Well, i think everybody is subject to the temptation
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  • And the allure of fame and what it promises.
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  • We have to pray for one another that we mean the humility
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  • We maintain, the humility and the obedience to honor the lord.
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  • If we do that, the world will be a better place.
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  • Thanks for spending a few minutes of your day
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  • With us, folks. god's moving in the earth.
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  • Let's go with it. god bless you. good night.
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