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Allen Jackson: Polling Accuracy | Allen Jackson Now

February 4, 2026 | 21:41

Allen Jackson: Polling Accuracy | Allen Jackson Now
Tom Bevan joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Polling Accuracy | Allen Jackson Now | February 4, 2026
  • Good evening and welcome to nashville.
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  • I'm alan jackson.
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  • We're going to begin tonight with what people know
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  • Versus what they think they know.
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  • 40% of the country didn't read a single book last year,
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  • A third of the country.
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  • They did read some stories on websites and newspapers.
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  • But an overwhelming number of people prefer to watch video
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  • And tv and just enjoy what they see.
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  • So if a picture is worth a thousand words, then
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  • Most of what we know is dependent on what we see.
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  • Well, such is the case with what's going on in minnesota,
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  • Where all the news cameras are all pointed at paid protesters.
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  • We see tear gas and pepper spray armored vehicles in handcuffs.
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  • And those images sink in even when there are no protest.
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  • The old video is played over and over again on a loop,
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  • With no explanation that there's nothing actually new.
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  • Well, the truth is,
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  • The federal authorities are there to arrest criminals,
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  • Child abductors, thieves, rapist people who belong in jail.
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  • But there are no pictures of what the bad guys have done,
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  • And very few pictures of the 10,000 criminal illegal
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  • Aliens living in and hiding around the state.
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  • And there's no video of the $9 billion that was stolen.
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  • So when we wonder
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  • Why there's so much confusion and distortion
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  • About the best way to make this country great again.
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  • Well, a big piece of that rests
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  • On how these impressions are made
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  • By that segment of the media that's more interested in
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  • Pushing a progressive agenda than it is in telling the truth.
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  • That constant national distortion covers nearly
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  • Every issue that makes the news each week,
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  • From washington to the middle east
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  • To wall street and main street.
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  • You know,
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  • Politics is typically framed as doing what's popular.
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  • That's the nature of politics, because they want the vote.
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  • Politicians will pander
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  • In order to remain popular and stay in their position.
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  • However, one of the traits i admire about our current
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  • Leadership is the willingness of president trump
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  • And his administration to do difficult things.
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  • I respect the cabinet that the president has assembled.
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  • These are a group of individuals who are trying,
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  • For the most part, to do what's best
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  • For the american people, even if it hurts politically.
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  • Whether you like him or not,
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  • Tom homan makes our children our families and our homes safer
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  • While making himself much more vulnerable.
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  • I'm quite sure he can't walk down the street alone.
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  • Bobby kennedy, a
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  • Democrat, is genuinely trying to help us get healthier.
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  • But in order to stand in that place, he's
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  • Been renounced by his own family and vilified by his friends.
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  • His political acquaintances.
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  • They consider him a traitor.
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  • Well, it's come as no surprise when the media is quick
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  • To discredit the fresh approaches made
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  • By bobby kennedy and hhs toward better health policies.
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  • No, i'd like to imagine that in a couple of years
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  • We'll see positive results
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  • Due to the fresh approaches taken now,
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  • Perhaps even a decrease
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  • In the rate of autism amongst our children.
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  • That would be a tremendous win, even in the likely event
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  • That he gets no credit for it.
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  • Pete hegseth is ushered in a
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  • Change of mindset for our military.
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  • The attitude and readiness to do difficult things,
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  • They are demonstrating it in performance.
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  • And he's done this while being disparaged by the media
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  • For sending a clear message to our troops like, no more die,
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  • No more dudes in dresses, no more distractions.
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  • We're done with that.
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  • But we're getting a lesson what it means to stand up for
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  • What's right.
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  • We shouldn't get caught up in the politicized
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  • Narratives by the media that lead with
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  • Which party you are affiliated with.
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  • This administration is making our country safer.
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  • They're making our economy better.
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  • They're making our military better.
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  • The military is not a social experiment,
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  • And it never should be.
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  • And improved global standing makes the world a safer place.
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  • The middle east is less threatened today by terrorists
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  • Than it has been in decades.
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  • If the communist influences from cuba and venezuela
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  • Are removed,
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  • This hemisphere will be the safest it's been since reagan.
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  • Now, i have a question for you.
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  • What can we do?
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  • You see, members of this administration
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  • Are making themselves vulnerable by standing up for good things
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  • And making tough decisions
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  • Towards better outcomes for our nation.
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  • Are we willing to do that for our own communities?
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  • Are we willing to be unpopular
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  • Even though we know it's the right thing to do?
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  • Well, unfortunately, the answer far too frequently is no.
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  • I believe the socialist mayor in new york city got elected
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  • Because a whole host of more talented people,
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  • They didn't want to be bothered with
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  • Being the mayor of new york.
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  • We have less than ideal people elected as mayors of major
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  • Cities across our country, sitting on city councils
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  • Because qualified people,
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  • They just don't want to deal with the hassle.
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  • It was what our communities to be better.
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  • Are we willing to be people that will make them better?
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  • There's a leadership shortage in our nation.
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  • We're not lacking people with titles or authority.
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  • We're lacking people with wisdom and understanding.
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  • People who are willing to intentionally use
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  • The godliness of their lives
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  • To demonstrate a biblical worldview.
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  • Whether you're a homemaker,
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  • A nurse, or a grocery store cashier.
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  • Almighty god
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  • Has given you a leadership role in this generation.
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  • This has nothing to do with your job title,
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  • But everything to do with how you use
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  • The influence of your life.
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  • There are people who care about your opinion.
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  • They want to know how you see the world around you.
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  • Are you using that influence for godliness?
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  • We begin to lead.
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  • It will impact the way we interact with other people.
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  • Let's have the courage to lead with our faith.
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  • It will change the atmosphere of our homes, our workplaces,
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  • Our communities, and ultimately our nation.
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  • Well, in just a moment,
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  • We're going to bring on a veteran of national politics,
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  • The president of real clear politics, tom bevan.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • Mr. gorbachev,
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  • Tear down this wall.
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  • Welcome back.
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  • Back when ronald reagan was president, one of his top
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  • Aides, mike deaver, was in charge of the reagan image.
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  • Reagan on the cliffs of normandy, reagan
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  • At the great wall of china, and reagan in berlin.
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  • The image maker was so successful,
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  • And the polls showed it
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  • That he told people he didn't care what they wrote
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  • Or said about reagan as long as they ran the video.
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  • He knew that the images would have far more impact.
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  • Well, we're joined now by the man
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  • Who knows a lot about what works
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  • And what doesn't work in politics.
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  • The co-founder and president of real clear politics, tom bevan.
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  • Welcome back.
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  • Alan, great to be with you.
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  • As you know, truth in news is hard to find these days.
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  • I want to start by asking
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  • How much of what you see in the polling
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  • Is the result of the constant images on our phones, versus
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  • The truth of what the story really might be.
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  • Well, that is a great question.
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  • I know a lot of people are skeptical of polls, and we had
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  • Comments from people all the time saying,
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  • I'm, you know, i, i'm 70 years old.
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  • I've never been polled once.
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  • I think the polls are fake.
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  • And it is one of those things.
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  • I mean, polling is still,
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  • It is an art,
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  • As much as a science when you're when you're taking 500 or 1000
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  • Or 1500 respondents and trying to extrapolate that to judge
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  • The public opinion for 330 million americans.
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  • Oftentimes you can get a picture that that is at odds
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  • With reality. and i think,
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  • But it is the best tool that we have.
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  • And one of the things
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  • That we do, a real clear politics is aggregate polls,
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  • As many polls as we can to to try and give the the broadest
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  • And best picture where the public is or where,
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  • An election,
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  • Horse races at any given point in time and also show
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  • Sort of how that picture is trending over time.
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  • So, i understand the skepticism of polls, but,
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  • It is the best tool that we have.
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  • And it is what, quite frankly, the president,
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  • His administration and others they react to when they see
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  • Their numbers moving in the polls.
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  • Well, the news from minnesota started out with ice going there
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  • To clear out the criminals
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  • And whoever was involved in the fraud,
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  • But there's been almost no reporting of what
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  • The criminals have done,
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  • Even though two thirds
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  • Of the country believes crime is a major problem.
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  • The protesters have driven the narrative.
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  • But i'm wondering
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  • How much of that is driven by the protest image makers,
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  • And how much of it is their anti-trump reporting?
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  • Well, i think it's a combination.
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  • I mean, you can't really disassociate the two,
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  • The media, the legacy media, which,
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  • Like it or not, still does drive a lot of public opinion
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  • And a lot of narratives, in this country is still
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  • Leans to the left, is still sympathetic
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  • To the narratives that come from from democrats
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  • And the left. and,
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  • I think the what's gone on in minnesota
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  • Over the last couple of weeks
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  • Is, is a very good example of that.
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  • And the american public reacts to that.
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  • The american public, while
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  • They've been very supportive of donald trump
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  • And his administration's
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  • Policy on illegal immigration and mass deportation.
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  • They also don't like to see chaos,
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  • On their screens, whether it's on their phone
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  • Or their tv screens.
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  • It's unsettling, unsettling.
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  • It's anxiety inducing, and they recoil from that.
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  • And i think what, what we've seen is that the,
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  • The scenes from minnesota, have caused, i think people to,
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  • Take a different approach to reaction to, to
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  • Trump's, immigration plans and the mass deportation plans.
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  • And you've seen trump adjust accordingly.
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  • I mean, he sent
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  • Tom homan in there to sort of reset
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  • And recalibrate,
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  • Because i think
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  • The administration recognized that that had become
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  • Somewhat of a tipping point,
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  • That they had lost the public opinion battle.
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  • And so they're trying to regain, footing there
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  • Or helping to propel the media's one sided view.
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  • Or the democrats,
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  • Even though some of them are running on the same anti-crime
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  • Agenda that president trump launched.
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  • Listen to minnesota senator,
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  • We know coming out of minnesota right now and really all over
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  • The country is that they want places that are safe.
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  • And he is making them less safe.
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  • People want to have safe communities.
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  • And instead of putting this funding into local
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  • Law enforcement this summer with that big, beautiful bill,
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  • The republicans put $75 billion into ice.
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  • Does she really think that the american people can't see
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  • That the president is doing
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  • Everything he can to make america safe?
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  • Well, again, democrats are reacting to they're seeing,
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  • They're reacting to public opinion also,
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  • And they're seeing that
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  • Ice has become a winning issue, being against ice.
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  • Remember, this is not new.
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  • They they wanted to abolish the police
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  • And they wanted to abolish ice.
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  • That didn't go so well for them the first time around.
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  • But now it is back.
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  • It has become
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  • I think it's actually
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  • Even replaced affordability, which was what they had been
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  • Almost solely focused on.
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  • And now if you look at the advertisements,
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  • If you look at democratic pronouncements
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  • Around the country, those that are in office,
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  • Those are that are running for office.
  • 00:11:35.753 --> 00:11:37.555
  • It is all about attacking, attacking ice.
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  • What i think democrats, should be concerned about is the
  • 00:11:40.725 --> 00:11:44.962
  • The overreach, because they're
  • 00:11:44.962 --> 00:11:46.464
  • They're sort of riding this tiger, this wave of anti ice,
  • 00:11:46.464 --> 00:11:50.268
  • Protesting.
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  • And what you end up seeing is chaos
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  • In the streets of minnesota. we now see it in portland.
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  • We're seeing it in la.
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  • And again, going back to what i just said,
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  • The public does not like to see chaos on their screens
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  • And they recoil from it.
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  • And so, this, this issue, while democrats think it's a
  • 00:12:04.582 --> 00:12:08.486
  • It's a winner for them right now as we head into the midterms,
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  • If if this kind of
  • 00:12:12.490 --> 00:12:15.560
  • Lawlessness and chaos continues on the streets,
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  • It could very well turn around and become a losing issue
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  • For them once again in pretty short order.
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  • Well, immigration was a top issue
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  • When trump was reelected, right up there with the economy.
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  • But now that the border is closed
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  • And we don't see people wading through the rio grande,
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  • Does the polling indicate
  • 00:12:34.445 --> 00:12:35.513
  • That the public moved on to something else?
  • 00:12:35.513 --> 00:12:38.883
  • Well, economy is still the number one issue.
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  • And, you know, pollsters ask this question in different ways.
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  • They'll ask just about the economy,
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  • Or they'll ask about the economy and jobs.
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  • They'll ask maybe a separate question
  • 00:12:47.658 --> 00:12:49.060
  • About inflation and affordability.
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  • And you can sort of
  • 00:12:51.963 --> 00:12:53.264
  • You can look at how a pollster approaches that and sort of dump
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  • Them all into one bucket.
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  • When you're talking about,
  • 00:12:57.101 --> 00:12:58.769
  • Economy and jobs, it is far and away the number one issue.
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  • Immigration is still on the list.
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  • It has, risen, a little bit recently based
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  • On what's gone on democrats,
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  • Consider it
  • 00:13:10.748 --> 00:13:11.849
  • A little bit more of a, an issue now than they used to.
  • 00:13:11.849 --> 00:13:15.519
  • Republicans still think it's a fairly important issue.
  • 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.723
  • And beyond that,
  • 00:13:18.723 --> 00:13:19.924
  • You get into things like health care and climate and abortion,
  • 00:13:19.924 --> 00:13:22.960
  • But those are all pretty far down the list.
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  • It is.
  • 00:13:25.096 --> 00:13:25.663
  • The economy still is in
  • 00:13:25.663 --> 00:13:26.898
  • Or by an order of magnitude, the most important issue,
  • 00:13:26.898 --> 00:13:30.268
  • That voters say
  • 00:13:30.268 --> 00:13:31.402
  • They are concerned about and have been for some time,
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  • The time we need to take a short break.
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  • Can you stay for another segment?
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  • Absolutely.
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  • For those of you watching, i'd love
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  • To have you log on to aj now.
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  • Dot com during the break.
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  • Send me your thoughts on these issues.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We're back now
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  • With the president of real clear politics, tom bevan.
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  • As you know, president trump has a lot going on each week.
  • 00:14:03.469 --> 00:14:06.639
  • And a lot of what he does never shows up in the news.
  • 00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:09.609
  • Recently, he signed an executive order
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  • That established
  • 00:14:11.611 --> 00:14:12.845
  • What he's calling the great american recovery initiative.
  • 00:14:12.845 --> 00:14:16.149
  • Not the economic recovery, but the recovery.
  • 00:14:16.149 --> 00:14:18.484
  • So many people go through
  • 00:14:18.484 --> 00:14:19.585
  • To stop alcohol and drug addictions.
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  • Listen to
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  • How he spoke about his brother fred,
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  • Who struggled with alcohol until he died in 1981.
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  • Many of those
  • 00:14:28.561 --> 00:14:29.729
  • With me today have personally known
  • 00:14:29.729 --> 00:14:31.965
  • The heartache of a loved one
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  • Taken by drug or alcohol addiction.
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  • I do just like millions of american families.
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  • Every year we lose
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  • An estimated 300,000 people to drug and alcohol abuse,
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  • And the real number is probably much, much higher than that.
  • 00:14:43.943 --> 00:14:48.381
  • You know,
  • 00:14:48.681 --> 00:14:49.749
  • It's a side of the president we don't often see.
  • 00:14:49.749 --> 00:14:51.584
  • But alcohol and drug abuse obviously
  • 00:14:51.584 --> 00:14:53.486
  • Cuts across party lines.
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  • So i'd like to ask if you think programs like these
  • 00:14:55.288 --> 00:14:57.957
  • Will ultimately be good for him
  • 00:14:57.957 --> 00:14:59.926
  • When historians write about his place in history,
  • 00:14:59.926 --> 00:15:02.462
  • Even if they may mostly go unnoticed right now.
  • 00:15:02.462 --> 00:15:06.065
  • I think so, and this is when donald trump talks
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  • About his brother
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  • And talks about the fact that he doesn't drink,
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  • And doesn't smoke.
  • 00:15:14.040 --> 00:15:15.208
  • And, you know, he talks
  • 00:15:15.208 --> 00:15:16.242
  • About how he really imparted that to his kids.
  • 00:15:16.242 --> 00:15:19.979
  • He's at probably his, his most human.
  • 00:15:19.979 --> 00:15:22.915
  • And and he always comes off in my opinion, very, very well
  • 00:15:22.915 --> 00:15:26.953
  • When he speaks about this.
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  • Look, i think part of his legacy certainly
  • 00:15:28.688 --> 00:15:31.524
  • Is going to be the decrease in fentanyl that is coming.
  • 00:15:31.524 --> 00:15:35.595
  • If you look at the number of fentanyl deaths
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  • In this country, it is down dramatically.
  • 00:15:36.963 --> 00:15:38.865
  • Just a couple of years ago,
  • 00:15:38.865 --> 00:15:40.033
  • We were losing over 100,000 people a year to fentanyl.
  • 00:15:40.033 --> 00:15:43.603
  • And because of his policies on the border
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  • And what he's been doing, with venezuela and the like,
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  • That that number is down dramatically.
  • 00:15:50.209 --> 00:15:52.845
  • And so i think that's going to be a real part of his legacy.
  • 00:15:52.845 --> 00:15:56.349
  • That and not an unimportant part of his legacy.
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  • If those numbers continue to go down, he will have saved,
  • 00:15:58.684 --> 00:16:01.788
  • Thousands upon thousands upon thousands of lives.
  • 00:16:01.788 --> 00:16:04.857
  • No, i'm glad you brought that up.
  • 00:16:04.857 --> 00:16:06.392
  • The fentanyl deaths are at an all time low,
  • 00:16:06.392 --> 00:16:08.895
  • You know, in part because the president
  • 00:16:08.895 --> 00:16:10.229
  • Pushed china to stop exporting so much of the drug,
  • 00:16:10.229 --> 00:16:13.099
  • But also because of what he's done
  • 00:16:13.099 --> 00:16:14.534
  • With the drug runners from venezuela.
  • 00:16:14.534 --> 00:16:16.903
  • It's just another one of those
  • 00:16:16.903 --> 00:16:17.770
  • Bipartisan issues that might help
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  • Congressional republicans this fall.
  • 00:16:19.472 --> 00:16:22.208
  • You know,
  • 00:16:22.508 --> 00:16:24.544
  • Democrats just they they do not give trump
  • 00:16:24.544 --> 00:16:27.613
  • Any sort of, credit for for anything.
  • 00:16:27.613 --> 00:16:32.018
  • Whenever you look at his approval ratings,
  • 00:16:32.018 --> 00:16:33.619
  • Even when he even
  • 00:16:33.619 --> 00:16:34.454
  • When he's doing things
  • 00:16:34.454 --> 00:16:35.621
  • That they agree with,
  • 00:16:35.621 --> 00:16:36.989
  • They still refuse to give him credit for it.
  • 00:16:36.989 --> 00:16:39.125
  • So i'm not sure how much of a bipartisan issue, this is,
  • 00:16:39.125 --> 00:16:42.929
  • Or how much credit he'll get from democrats for this.
  • 00:16:42.929 --> 00:16:45.965
  • But if you look at the murder rates around the country,
  • 00:16:45.965 --> 00:16:49.102
  • You know, especially in some of these large cities
  • 00:16:49.102 --> 00:16:50.903
  • Where he's sending the national guard, they're down.
  • 00:16:50.903 --> 00:16:53.506
  • He's he's helped contribute to that.
  • 00:16:53.506 --> 00:16:55.108
  • Although, again, democrats take credit for it.
  • 00:16:55.108 --> 00:16:57.009
  • Don't give him any credit for it.
  • 00:16:57.009 --> 00:16:58.244
  • So, i'm not sure how much is this is going to,
  • 00:16:58.244 --> 00:17:01.647
  • Help electorally, but it certainly does.
  • 00:17:02.482 --> 00:17:05.485
  • I mean, it certainly does make,
  • 00:17:05.485 --> 00:17:07.887
  • The country feel like we're moving in the right direction
  • 00:17:07.887 --> 00:17:11.324
  • When you see those numbers going down, as opposed to
  • 00:17:11.324 --> 00:17:13.292
  • When they were skyrocketing, quite frankly.
  • 00:17:13.292 --> 00:17:15.495
  • And you're looking around the country
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  • And seeing,
  • 00:17:16.496 --> 00:17:17.997
  • The stories, the headlines in local papers
  • 00:17:17.997 --> 00:17:19.999
  • About the tragedies, of all of these fentanyl deaths.
  • 00:17:19.999 --> 00:17:22.935
  • So it does it definitely adds to,
  • 00:17:22.935 --> 00:17:24.770
  • I think, sort of civic morale, writ large.
  • 00:17:24.770 --> 00:17:28.407
  • Well, there's a flip
  • 00:17:28.875 --> 00:17:30.076
  • Side to what's being done by the authorities about crime.
  • 00:17:30.076 --> 00:17:32.745
  • At the trial of luigi mazzini, the biden appointed judge ruled
  • 00:17:32.745 --> 00:17:36.182
  • Against any prosecution that would include the death penalty.
  • 00:17:36.182 --> 00:17:39.485
  • Despite what we've seen on the video,
  • 00:17:39.485 --> 00:17:41.154
  • Where the health care ceo was shot and killed.
  • 00:17:41.154 --> 00:17:43.923
  • The judge said her ruling would seem tortured
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  • And strange and even absurd to the average person.
  • 00:17:46.692 --> 00:17:50.596
  • Well, i consider myself an average person
  • 00:17:50.596 --> 00:17:52.632
  • And her ruling is tortured, strange and absurd.
  • 00:17:52.632 --> 00:17:56.202
  • I wonder if this is just another reason why regular folks
  • 00:17:56.202 --> 00:17:58.437
  • Continue to lose faith in their government.
  • 00:17:58.437 --> 00:18:01.774
  • It certainly does.
  • 00:18:02.208 --> 00:18:03.576
  • I mean, if there was ever a case where you would think
  • 00:18:03.576 --> 00:18:08.247
  • That the death penalty would would apply.
  • 00:18:08.247 --> 00:18:11.517
  • And, you know,
  • 00:18:11.517 --> 00:18:12.718
  • I've been critical of the death penalty at certain points
  • 00:18:12.718 --> 00:18:15.221
  • During career. i mean, it's probably,
  • 00:18:15.221 --> 00:18:17.590
  • Almost certainly we've executed someone in this country
  • 00:18:18.624 --> 00:18:21.294
  • Over the course of the last, you know, 40
  • 00:18:21.294 --> 00:18:22.929
  • Or 50 years who was innocent and sent them to death.
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  • I think it's it's,
  • 00:18:25.731 --> 00:18:27.533
  • It is the ultimate punishment, and it should be treated as such
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  • And treated very carefully.
  • 00:18:30.002 --> 00:18:31.637
  • But here you have an instance where the man literally is
  • 00:18:31.637 --> 00:18:33.606
  • Caught on camera shooting, murdering
  • 00:18:33.606 --> 00:18:36.676
  • Someone in broad daylight, shooting them in the back.
  • 00:18:36.676 --> 00:18:39.779
  • There is no mystery about what happened here.
  • 00:18:39.779 --> 00:18:43.216
  • And so certainly
  • 00:18:43.216 --> 00:18:44.150
  • You would think that this would be a case
  • 00:18:44.150 --> 00:18:45.251
  • Where the death penalty would apply.
  • 00:18:45.251 --> 00:18:47.386
  • But, look, i think the judiciary in
  • 00:18:47.386 --> 00:18:51.524
  • This country has not done itself any favors during
  • 00:18:51.524 --> 00:18:56.162
  • Donald trump's tenure, both the first time around
  • 00:18:56.162 --> 00:18:58.331
  • And the second time around.
  • 00:18:58.331 --> 00:18:59.599
  • In terms of instilling confidence, in the public,
  • 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:02.602
  • That they are simply adjudicating the law,
  • 00:19:02.602 --> 00:19:06.205
  • Without letting any of their political biases creep in.
  • 00:19:06.205 --> 00:19:09.375
  • We've we've seen it's actually been the opposite.
  • 00:19:09.375 --> 00:19:12.445
  • Well, tom berman, thank you for joining us again today.
  • 00:19:12.445 --> 00:19:14.847
  • I hope you'll come back again soon.
  • 00:19:14.847 --> 00:19:16.949
  • Absolutely. thank you.
  • 00:19:16.949 --> 00:19:18.684
  • In a moment, your emails, there are plenty of them.
  • 00:19:18.684 --> 00:19:21.387
  • And i'll answer as many as we can fit in.
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  • I'll be right back.
  • 00:19:23.823 --> 00:19:31.009
  • I'll be right back.
  • 00:19:31.009 --> 00:19:36.135
  • Thank you for taking the time
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  • To share your thoughts and your emails with us.
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  • Johnny from north
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  • Carolina wrote i'm thankful god is longsuffering,
  • 00:19:42.208 --> 00:19:45.611
  • But it's time
  • 00:19:45.978 --> 00:19:47.213
  • For all those calling themselves pastors to rise up and support
  • 00:19:47.213 --> 00:19:49.649
  • What president trump and his team are doing.
  • 00:19:49.649 --> 00:19:52.151
  • Congregations in my area need to hear what you teach
  • 00:19:52.151 --> 00:19:54.654
  • Your sheep. thank you.
  • 00:19:54.654 --> 00:19:56.322
  • It's obvious god is using president
  • 00:19:56.322 --> 00:19:57.923
  • Trump and great changes are taking place.
  • 00:19:57.923 --> 00:20:00.359
  • As christians,
  • 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:01.460
  • We need to come together in unity, praying, voting,
  • 00:20:01.460 --> 00:20:04.096
  • Reaching those out there, teaching them to also do so
  • 00:20:04.096 --> 00:20:07.800
  • Well.
  • 00:20:08.034 --> 00:20:08.734
  • Thanks for the encouragement.
  • 00:20:08.734 --> 00:20:09.669
  • You know, i do believe that we should
  • 00:20:09.669 --> 00:20:11.003
  • Be engaged in shaping culture and not be shaped by it.
  • 00:20:11.003 --> 00:20:14.774
  • I am grateful for biblical studies
  • 00:20:14.774 --> 00:20:16.842
  • And all the things i learned
  • 00:20:16.842 --> 00:20:18.077
  • About the first century, or maybe even the 10th century bc.
  • 00:20:18.077 --> 00:20:21.747
  • But at the end of the day, i believe we're called to take
  • 00:20:21.747 --> 00:20:23.883
  • The message of the gospel and impact the 21st century.
  • 00:20:23.883 --> 00:20:27.653
  • That means we have to have
  • 00:20:27.653 --> 00:20:28.821
  • The courage to talk about what's happening in our world.
  • 00:20:28.821 --> 00:20:31.524
  • The goal isn't to be expressly political,
  • 00:20:31.524 --> 00:20:33.993
  • But is to engage the issues that are shaping our world.
  • 00:20:33.993 --> 00:20:37.129
  • And i, too, am
  • 00:20:37.129 --> 00:20:38.064
  • Grateful for so much of what president trump
  • 00:20:38.064 --> 00:20:40.433
  • And his administration are doing.
  • 00:20:40.433 --> 00:20:42.234
  • They've been advocates for biblical worldviews
  • 00:20:42.234 --> 00:20:44.103
  • In ways that are shaping our future.
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  • I am most thankful.
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  • Earl cannon in virginia commented.
  • 00:20:48.808 --> 00:20:50.643
  • Jim duffy, cbs news miami had a documentary piece
  • 00:20:50.643 --> 00:20:55.348
  • Around 2014 about russian women being accommodated in miami
  • 00:20:55.348 --> 00:20:59.618
  • Until they gave birth, received birth certificates
  • 00:20:59.618 --> 00:21:03.022
  • And social security cards.
  • 00:21:03.022 --> 00:21:04.790
  • Then, returning to russia.
  • 00:21:04.790 --> 00:21:06.759
  • I find it difficult to believe that our government
  • 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:08.561
  • Isn't fully aware of what russia, china
  • 00:21:08.561 --> 00:21:10.496
  • And other countries are doing.
  • 00:21:10.496 --> 00:21:12.131
  • Apparently, trump is the only president.
  • 00:21:12.131 --> 00:21:13.833
  • Understand the risks and attempt to stop it.
  • 00:21:13.833 --> 00:21:16.635
  • The question is, why would anyone not support
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  • Trump's efforts to protect u.s.
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  • Citizens?
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  • Well, tragically, we're often political more than we are
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  • In support of the policies best for our nation.
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  • I pray we have the courage to face that change.
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  • Thank you for sharing your thoughts
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  • With us and for spending a few minutes of your day.
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  • God bless you and good night.
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