Sen. Marsha Blackburn joins Allen Jackson to discuss President Trump's bill.
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- Well.
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- Good evening.
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- I'm alan jackson, and welcome to nashville.
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- We have a neighbor with us
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- Today, the esteemed tennessee senator marsha blackburn.
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- And as you will hear, she's not only working
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- For the people of tennessee.
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- She's also doing a very good job
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- Of taking care of the american people as well.
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- Most recently, that included passing the big
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- Beautiful budget bill, the one the president said, will
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- And i, quote, make this country into a rocket ship.
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- Well, in it are billions of dollars for border security,
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- Lower taxes across the board, slower growth in medicaid
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- And food stamps,
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- Still providing help where needed, but
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- Cutting out the waste and abuse
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- And the elimination of the solar,
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- Wind and electric vehicle tax breaks
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- That joe biden approved in
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- His so-called inflation reduction act,
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- Which we now know had nothing to do with reducing inflation,
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- And also some substantial funding for our armed forces
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- And veterans.
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- With that, i want to introduce our very special guest,
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- Senator marsha blackburn. welcome.
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- I'm delighted to join you.
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- Thank you so much.
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- Well, senator,
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- You said this bill was
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- The result of promises made and promises kept.
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- Tell us what you did for the people of tennessee
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- And what you also did for the country as a whole.
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- Yes, indeed. of course.
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- This is the largest tax cut in u.s.
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- History.
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- And for tennesseans, they will save about $2,600
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- Per year in their taxes.
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- That is a great thing.
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- They're also going to see a raise in wages.
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- And the estimates from the council of economic advisers
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- Is that the average family will see about
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- A $10,000 increase in take home pay.
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- So that is positive.
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- Also, in addition to this, we have been able to restore
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- Bonus depreciation and expensing,
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- Which is so vitally important, alan, to so many of our nation's
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- Small businesses and main street merchants
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- That are in each of tennessee's 95 counties.
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- We also have no tax on tips, our overtime
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- And for those that have tipp income
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- And make much of their income through overtime,
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- The estimate is it will save those tipped
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- Or overtime workers about $2,000 every year.
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- I was pleased to shepherd through the provision
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- Of no tax on social security,
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- And i have worked on this for years and i'm so grateful.
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- President trump really championed this effort
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- And the way we achieved that is
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- To do a bonus deduction
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- For every senior every year.
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- So it will be a $6,000
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- Per year per senior income tax deduction
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- That they will be able to take when they file their income tax
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- Every year.
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- So a big win there for our nation's seniors.
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- In addition to that for tennessee of course, fort
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- Campbell and oak ridge, i see additional funding.
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- And the coast guard down in memphis
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- Is going to see additional funding.
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- One provision that i got into the bill
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- Is an employer provided child care tax credit.
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- And we know that so many families struggle
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- With finding someone to keep their children.
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- So we have a provision,
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- Whether you're a small, a medium or a large size business,
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- You will be able to have a tax credit
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- For providing child care for your workers.
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- And many companies and institutions
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- And organizations have started to do childcare centers,
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- And this will enable them to be able to provide more
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- Of a service for moms and dads that want to have somewhere
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- That is reliable, safe, convenient
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- For their children.
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- You know, the democrats
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- Put a lot of effort
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- Into making some thoroughly
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- Dishonest claims about what
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- The bill does for medicaid and social security.
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- But i saw your column in the tennessee star
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- That makes clear that by cutting out the waste and fraud,
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- There'll actually be more money
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- Available for those who truly need it.
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- Can you tell us a bit more about that?
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- Yes. you know,
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- One of the things that we found out through,
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- Actually, a government audit was that the medicaid program
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- Had about 25% get that number, 25%
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- Of all the payments
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- That were going out the door were improper payments,
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- Which meant it was for services that weren't rendered
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- Or companies that really didn't exist,
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- Or up coding from providers.
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- And so what we did was to begin to chase
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- Those improper payments and put in place
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- A structure in this bill that will prohibit that.
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- So if you're able to recoup those dollars
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- And if you're able to root out the waste, the fraud, the abuse
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- And remove people
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- Who are fraudsters and
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- Freeloaders and those that are illegally in the country,
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- They're not going to get benefits,
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- They're not going to get payments anymore, thereby,
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- You are going to be able to to make certain
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- The program is there for people that really need it
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- And depend on it.
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- For citizens who are counting on
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- Getting those medicaid services.
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- So it strengthens the program.
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- Well, last november's election
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- Clearly showed that the american people want a real border.
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- But even here in nashville, the mayor thought
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- He knew better.
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- He tried to stop the ice raids.
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- And then he even went further,
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- Publishing the names of the ice agents.
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- And he put them and their families at risk.
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- What is it about some of these democrats
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- That they want to attack the same people
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- Who are trying to keep us all safe?
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- Doesn't make sense to me.
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- Well, it does not make sense because every official
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- Takes that oath to protect
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- And defend the constitution and the public.
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- And and it is important that that be the first thing
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- That they do.
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- Now, these ice raids that were taking place,
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- The people that they were apprehended and they apprehended
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- Over 500 in the middle tennessee area.
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- They were trained.
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- They are aqua ms13.
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- And you know, allen, i don't know anybody that wants
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- Trend arugula or ms13 moving into their community.
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- I also know that there were people who were
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- Had been convicted of child sexual abuse and molestation.
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- There were people
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- Who had committed murder that had committed robbery.
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- There were people that had been convicted of assault.
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- So these are not individuals
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- That just walked across the border illegally.
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- These are criminal, illegal aliens.
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- They are people
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- That have had orders of deportation against them,
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- And it is appropriate that they be removed.
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- But it was our nashville mayors office that decided
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- To put these names out there, and also the operations
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- Where they were working and what they were doing.
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- So we introduced legislation that would add our federal law
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- Enforcement officers
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- To that list, to people
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- That are protected, that you cannot dox them
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- Because they are not on that list.
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- And so adding them to that list is going to help provide for
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- Their safety and their ability to continue to remove
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- Criminal, illegal aliens from our communities.
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- Well, you and i both know that
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- Nashville, the citizens of nashville,
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- Are both compassionate and caring,
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- But we need our law enforcement
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- And they need to feel our support.
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- So i'm grateful for your efforts.
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- I hope that message gets through.
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- Yes, indeed.
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- We think it is imperative
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- That they know we are going to stand with them
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- And we're going to support them.
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- And that, as one police chief told me,
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- He said the more criminal illegal aliens,
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- The more gang members you can get off the streets.
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- Then the streets are going to be safer
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- For the citizens, and the streets are going to be
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- Safer for our law enforcement officers.
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- Well, i'd like to end on something that you've done
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- That i don't think got all the headlines it should have.
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- You and several of your colleagues
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- Introduced a resolution
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- To honor the sometimes forgotten female veterans of our wars.
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- Women make up around 10% of our veterans already,
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- And nearly double that who are on active duty.
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- Now, tell us what you've done to get them the recognition
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- That i believe they deserve.
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- Yes. so
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- We need a day and a time that we are going
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- To recognize them and pay tribute to them.
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- As you said, our numbers have increased.
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- And when you think
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- About our nation's wars
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- And how women stepped up
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- To fight for and defend our nation's freedom,
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- How they stepped up to be that support element so many times
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- In the battlefields, and to care for our troops
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- And to fight for our freedom for our country.
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- They put that uniform on and they serve
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- Just as well, and we couldn't do without them.
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- And honoring these female veterans,
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- Recognizing their service, paying tribute to them
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- Is something we should do every single year.
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- And we're trying to establish the ability to do that.
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- Well, senator blackburn, thank you for your time today.
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- You're welcome on our show anytime.
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- And if you're in nashville, come by. we'll have you on set.
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- I would love that.
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- And thank you so much for the great work that you are
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- Doing, and thank you for how you reach forward
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- To so many families in how you bless them with inspiration.
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- We're grateful for the service you provide.
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- Well, you were kind. thank you.
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- When we come back, we'll be joined by the veteran
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- Republican strategist, jeffrey lord.
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- Stay right there because i'll be right back.
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- Stay right there because i'll be right back.
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- Well, we're joined now by another frequent
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- Guest of ours, a political veteran
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- With a great eye on how to sort the truth
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- From the noise that comes from washington.
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- Jeffrey lord, welcome back.
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- It's good to see a man.
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- Is there noise coming from washington?
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- Well, let's start right in.
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- You know, it's been many years now,
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- But some things never seem to change.
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- I went back to look at the news coverage
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- When president reagan went to washington.
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- He was clearly not part of the beltway insiders club.
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- So just about everything he did, they criticized headlines
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- Such as these trickle down tax cuts, favor of the wealthy,
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- Budget cuts harm the poor and elderly in the students,
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- An accelerating arms race is destabilizing diplomacy.
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- So here we are today with the passage of the big
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- Beautiful budget bill,
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- But legitimate start on cutting waste, fraud and abuse.
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- The end of the war with iran and its proxy terrorist.
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- The end of the india-pakistan flare up, and the strength
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- To stand up to the lawfare abuse
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- Until the supreme court stepped in.
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- Is it just a democrat instinct
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- That they can't deal with change,
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- Even when it's improving things
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- For the majority of the country?
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- They can't deal with outsiders.
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- Therein lies the problem.
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- And i remember vividly when president reagan was first
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- Elected between the time of his
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- Winning the election and his inauguration in january,
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- He made his first trip to washington.
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- This in this case, he was president elect.
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- And because he was president, i like tip o'neill,
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- The long time
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- Democrat speaker of the house, very courteously received him.
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- And one of the things, first things he said to reagan as they
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- Sat down on the sofa was, you're in the big leagues now.
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- As if being governor of california, the largest state in
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- The country,
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- Was not the big leagues, but it was indicative of the mindset
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- That people in washington have insiders versus outsiders.
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- And we have, in many ways, a very similar situation here
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- Where when donald trump first appeared on the scene,
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- They went after him because he was an outsider.
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- And and therein lies his problem.
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- And he's made even more dangerous, in their view now
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- Because of the oddity that, like grover cleveland,
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- He got elected once, then he lost his reelection bid.
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- But then he came back, and the second time around,
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- He was a whole lot wiser because he'd been there
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- The first time and had been through all of the
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- Shenanigans that the, insiders club puts up.
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- So, this is why i think he has been doing so superlatively
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- Well here since the beginning of his second term.
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- Well, you know,
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- They made a lot of fun of the fact
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- That president reagan was a former actor,
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- But they did eventually call him the great communicator.
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- And the more time passes, the more
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- His legend seems to grow, doesn't it?
- 00:14:08.740 --> 00:14:11.643
- Yes, it does.
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- And, you know, in terms of his being an actor after,
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- I don't know, his first year, i guess it was in office.
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- He sat down for an end of year interview with nbc's tom brokaw,
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- And tom brokaw brought that up,
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- Brought up the fact that he had been an actor, etc..
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- And reagan, in his typical reaganesque style, says,
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- Well, i don't know how i could have done the job without it.
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- And, you know, so true.
- 00:14:39.604 --> 00:14:42.140
- I, you know, this began to change in terms
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- Of the presidency when franklin roosevelt was president.
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- And, for those of us not around of the day,
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- Which is just about all of us, what we're so unique in his case
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- Was what they began to call his fireside chats,
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- Which was the first time the american people
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- Had been addressed on some sort of regular basis by a president
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- Of the united states through an electronic medium.
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- In this case radio.
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- And then by the time eisenhower was president,
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- You began to see a little television.
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- And then, of course, the master of it was john f
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- Kennedy, who who looked the part, sounded the part,
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- All of that sort of thing.
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- And now we've gotten to this whole social media
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- Craziness out there where, you know, your aunt martha can
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- Turn on, turn on facebook or something for 20s and go,
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- Oh, yeah, right.
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- I've heard that before and shut it off
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- Or oh, i haven't heard that and wanted, wanted to go on.
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- So it's a different world, but electronic communication
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- Really does mean a great deal in this day and age.
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- Well, it looks as though some
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- Of the real deep state figures
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- Are going to have their methods exposed.
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- John brennan and james comey are now being investigated
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- For their various roles in trying to take candidate
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- Trump down, particularly with the russia collusion effort
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- And comey's recent special episode.
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- Do you think they should be prosecuted?
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- Well, i think at a minimum, they should be investigated.
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- And then we'll see in the prosecution.
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- But, you know, there's
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- There seems to be no question
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- That they went out of their way to use
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- Their respective positions that the cia and the fbi to,
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- You know, influence
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- An election outcome because they didn't like donald trump.
- 00:16:30.182 --> 00:16:34.419
- So this was their answer here was to try and spread the word
- 00:16:34.419 --> 00:16:38.790
- That, well, he was the tool of the russians,
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- And they had all this stuff on him and all this.
- 00:16:41.226 --> 00:16:43.395
- None of it was true.
- 00:16:43.395 --> 00:16:44.763
- Not a word of it was true.
- 00:16:44.763 --> 00:16:46.364
- So in that sense, yes.
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- I mean, i think that, you know, when you get to the point where
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- You were trying to influence a presidential election,
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- There's a problem and a legal one.
- 00:16:55.941 --> 00:16:59.344
- Well, with all the president trump has done already.
- 00:16:59.344 --> 00:17:01.713
- He still wants to finish
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- Setting up the new tariff rates and settle the war in ukraine.
- 00:17:02.948 --> 00:17:06.685
- Putin seems less interested in a ceasefire.
- 00:17:06.685 --> 00:17:09.488
- But given the state of american politics these days,
- 00:17:09.488 --> 00:17:12.357
- Do you see a time down the road when president trump
- 00:17:12.357 --> 00:17:14.759
- Might be better appreciated
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- For what he's already accomplished globally?
- 00:17:16.228 --> 00:17:19.297
- Oh, absolutely.
- 00:17:19.297 --> 00:17:20.265
- I mean, for those of us
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- Who don't have blinders on, i think
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- That that day has already come.
- 00:17:24.302 --> 00:17:25.937
- A lot of us appreciate what he has been doing.
- 00:17:25.937 --> 00:17:28.840
- But i do think and, you know,
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- I can just tell you, as somebody who is a sort of a student
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- Of presidents and having worked for one, i think the classic,
- 00:17:34.312 --> 00:17:38.183
- Case along these lines was president harry truman,
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- Who left office in january of 1953.
- 00:17:42.687 --> 00:17:47.025
- He his polls had him at 35%.
- 00:17:47.025 --> 00:17:50.795
- He was vastly unpopular.
- 00:17:50.795 --> 00:17:52.931
- Ten years later, on the eve of his death in 1972,
- 00:17:52.931 --> 00:17:57.169
- He was being ranked as one of america's great presidents.
- 00:17:57.169 --> 00:18:00.605
- So i think that, you know, with the passage of time,
- 00:18:00.605 --> 00:18:04.142
- The people who were not around when donald trump was president
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- Are going to look back and go, wow, he really did a great job.
- 00:18:07.479 --> 00:18:11.550
- Well, jeffrey, lord, we appreciate your very long
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- View of the fast moving political world
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- That we're in the middle of.
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- It's a challenge
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- To see down the road when it's hard enough
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- To keep up with it all each week.
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- Thank you for your time today.
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- You bet. anytime.
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- In a moment, i'll have some thoughts
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- Of my own signs of hope as we move forward.
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- We'll be right back.
- 00:18:31.803 --> 00:18:39.006
- We'll be right back.
- 00:18:39.006 --> 00:18:43.950
- It is.
- 00:18:44.150 --> 00:18:44.850
- Farewell. address to the nation.
- 00:18:44.850 --> 00:18:46.085
- President ronald reagan
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- Called america the shining city on a hill.
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- Well, unfortunately,
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- Our nation has been on the wrong trajectory for a season.
- 00:18:51.824 --> 00:18:54.760
- You know, growing up, i never imagined that
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- In this great nation of ours, there would be a day
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- When we would have mayors of major cities
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- Refusing to cooperate with federal law enforcement
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- And governors using their power to resist
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- Elected government officials picking and choosing the laws
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- They would like to enforce
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- Even when it went against the will of the voters,
- 00:19:11.244 --> 00:19:13.913
- Or that we would have judges ignoring the very laws
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- They were sworn in to uphold.
- 00:19:16.349 --> 00:19:18.684
- Consider these words from george
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- Washington, the father of our nation.
- 00:19:20.052 --> 00:19:22.255
- It's in his farewell speech in 1796.
- 00:19:22.255 --> 00:19:25.057
- He said, it's impossible
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- To govern the world without god and the bible.
- 00:19:26.192 --> 00:19:29.295
- Of all the dispositions and habits
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- That lead to political prosperity.
- 00:19:31.097 --> 00:19:33.232
- Our religion and morality are the indispensable supporters.
- 00:19:33.232 --> 00:19:37.036
- Now, today, as christ followers,
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- Let's not take the easy way out.
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- When we have opportunities to speak the truth
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- Or to share our commitment about our faith.
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- Let's have the courage to stand up for our convictions
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- And declare our allegiance to the lord.
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- He's done a lot for us.
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- May i remind you
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- That the only thing necessary for evil to triumph
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- Is for good people to do nothing.
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- We must take our place
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- In the arena, speak truth, and not worry about the pushback
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- For that.
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- There's more reason with hope than despair.
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- We'll be right back with a final thought.
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- We'll be right back with a final thought.
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- Thank you for sharing a few minutes of your day with us.
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- It's an always an honor
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- And a privilege to spend a bit of time
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- Reviewing what is happening in our world.
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- I'm alan jackson, and i pray you have a wonderful
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- Evening.
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