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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Putin's Motives | Allen Jackson Now | August 21, 2025

Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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I'm alan jackson.
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When president trump published
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His first book, the art of the deal.
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He was writing about building
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The trump tower, big hotels and casinos in atlantic city.
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To do this right, he said, you need to think big.
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Well, 40 years later,
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He's thinking as big as any world leader can get.
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He's trying to put
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Together a deal to create peace between russia and ukraine.
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It's not just two countries.
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It's the potential for a deal
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That involves much of europe and possibly even china.
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Listen to the president's vision.
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We'll do the best to get it ended.
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And, i believe you have two willing parties.
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And usually that's good news.
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But two willing parties that want to make a deal.
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It's possible it might not be able to be done.
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On the other hand, is possible it will.
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We're going to save thousands and thousands of lives a week.
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And so is something we really have to do.
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And or at least we have to give it our best.
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Well, retired u.s.
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Navy captain chuck nash.
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He knows what peace looks like.
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He spent 25 years keeping the peace.
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Welcome back. captain.
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My pleasure. pastor.
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You know, you heard what the president had to say.
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It's possible, but it might not be able to be done.
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He's realistic.
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But you saw the photo op at the white house.
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European leaders, the head of nato,
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Vladimir zielinski, working together like never before.
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But since that extraordinary meeting,
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The russians are saying that they also need
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To be a part of any discussions about security guarantees
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In ukraine and that even china should be a part of that, too.
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So is putin stalling, lying?
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Negotiating?
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Or is it just all of the above?
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I think it's all of the above.
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He's trying to get as much up on the table as possible,
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Because you have
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To have a lot on the table if you're going to be perceived,
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Making a deal so you can give some things away.
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So i think what he's doing is he's trying to stack the deck
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With a bunch of impossibilities.
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Like the china.
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The ukrainians would never agree,
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Nor would the united states agree
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To have china at a peacekeeping table for a war
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That's taking place in europe.
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That's not. that's just not going to happen.
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He's also talking about, possibly bringing in
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The united nations security council.
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Now, that may have some play in there.
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But really, i think what's going to happen for,
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Zelensky to
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Agree to give up the territory
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That his constitution says he's not allowed to do.
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So he's got that domestic issue.
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But for him to even get close to that,
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It has to be an ironclad security arrangement,
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Which means foreign troops
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On the ground and a snap back agreement.
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That would include military action by those troops
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Should the russians renege on the deal.
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Well, let's get into some of the other details.
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Putin comes to talk about the potential for peace.
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And the very next day he's bombing ukraine again.
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Is that to try to turn up the heat on zelensky,
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Or do you think he's trying to secure the territory
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He's already taken?
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But i think he's trying to keep maximum pressure
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On zelensky, to keep him back on his heels.
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And at the same time, he's trying to solidify his gains
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So that he's in a strong bargaining position
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When it comes down to the tripartite meeting.
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If you look at
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The frequency of these attacks, drones and missile attacks,
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They ramped up in april to a max in july.
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And then, over the last several
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Days, there's been a flurry of activity.
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With attacks on ukraine, not nearly,
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As as intense as in june and july, though.
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President trump has made clear that
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No american troops will ever be deployed on the ground.
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But he has said that he's open
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To providing air support for european forces.
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Is that what's needed to keep russia in check?
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I think so the europeans need to step up
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With boots on the ground
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If it comes to that, and i think it will.
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But the united states could play a huge part with airpower.
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And one of the things that i hope is in consideration,
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As the us air force is looking at standing down
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The use of our a-10 warthogs,
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That would be the perfect platform
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To give to the ukrainians, transfer them the spare parts,
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Get the training done
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And let them have those tank killers because if putin does
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Try to come across again, he's going to do it with armor.
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And those aircraft were specifically designed
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To take out armor.
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You know, i know you've made the case for a long time now
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That the battle is something ukraine was unlikely to ever win
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Because putin has more troops.
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Is that still the case,
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Even given the big losses on russia's side?
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It is absolutely incredible how much the ukrainians
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Have been able to do with what they had going in,
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Which was a slow start with, ramp up with military equipment
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From the obama administration when president trump came in
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And started providing them with with stingers and anti-tank,
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Weapons, then that started to turn the tide of the battle.
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But before that,
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The russians had moved in, taken, the donbas region
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And, all the way down in mariupol, in kherson,
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Which gives them
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That land bridge that putin has always wanted to the crimea.
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So when you look at the casualties,
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It's it's been abysmal.
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And the president
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Is absolutely spot on when he says,
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We just have to stop the killing.
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The russians have lost 250,000 killed,
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Another 750,000 amputees and wounded.
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The ukrainians have lost probably 100,000,
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With a little over 300,000 wounded.
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So this has been bloodshed on a massive scale,
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Even for the russians.
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And the russians have suffering in their dna.
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This is 15 times the decade long war they fought in afghanistan
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And ten times the 13 year war they fought in chechnya.
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They have just been grinding up their young men.
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This has to stop.
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And i think putin has suddenly come
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To that realization that he can't go on forever,
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Because the europeans and the americans
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Are going to continue to back the ukrainians.
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And it's just going to be a meat grinder.
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You know, it's easy to understand zelensky's
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Reservations about giving up territory,
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But what about the ukrainian families
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That live in those areas.
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Are they supposed to just pick up and leave,
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Or do they become russian citizens?
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You know, what's the thinking about this?
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Well, looking at the demographics of,
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The luhansk and donetsk regions,
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Which are the collectively called the donbas.
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If you look at those, about 90%
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Are ethnic russian speaking peoples.
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So, that has always been putin's, thing.
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Just like it was hitler's taking care of,
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You know, the german people,
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In czechoslovakia and elsewhere.
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Putin has always been saying,
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I've got to take care of these russian people because
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They're not being taken care of by the ukrainian government.
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They're being abused. so,
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Who's right?
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Who's wrong on this? it doesn't matter.
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You just got to
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Stop the killing at this point and then sort it out.
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Well, president
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Trump is insisting that putin will have to meet
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Directly with zelensky wherever that happens.
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Do you agree that that's the way to do it?
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These two enemies talking face to face.
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Eventually, they're going to have to stare
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At each other across the table. they are.
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Because it's not like the united states can impose
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Its will on either side.
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They're going to the united states can broker that peace.
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And quite frankly,
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President trump is the only one that can do it.
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If you look at the world leaders on the stage,
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And they all came to washington at his invitation
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To be part of this, to show that kind of unity.
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And then you look at how the legacy media is treating that.
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They're treating it as if they came to washington
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To back zelensky and protect him from trump.
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It's it's absolutely
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Absurd what's going on in the media on this side of it.
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I hope people really take the
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Time to look into what's really going on over there,
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Because this is a crucial, crucial time for the world.
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If he can stop, he president trump can broker this peace
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And stop this war.
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It'll be what war number 5
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Or 6 that he's solved in the last couple hundred days.
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That is just absolutely incredible.
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Incredible. it's unprecedented.
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Captain, there's a lot more to discuss.
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Can you stay with us for another segment?
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Sure can.
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Well, if those of you at home
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Want to share your thoughts on these peace negotiations,
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You can just go to aj now.com.
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And on the upper right side of the page you'll see a link.
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You can click and you can send me an email.
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We'd love to hear from you. we'll be right back.
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We'd love to hear from you. we'll be right back.
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We're back now with captain chuck nash,
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Who had a very successful career in the navy.
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Some of you may have heard me say this before, but captain
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Nash had 965 aircraft carrier landings across his career.
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It means he brought his fighter jet down
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On those little runways 965 times on ships
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That were bobbing up and down on the ocean.
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We're grateful to you for your service, captain.
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Thank you.
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My pleasure.
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It was an honor
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To serve the country and wear the cloth of the nation.
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Well, let's get back to the trump factor.
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Senator lindsey graham thinks the president
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Has the upper hand in these talks,
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Because putin has seen
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The other peace settlements, that he's already taken care of.
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Listen to what the senator had to say.
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Donald trump, the only guy on the planet
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That can end this war.
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Putin fears trump.
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And he's been a, i think he's been tough.
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Azerbaijan and armenia has been going on for 30 years.
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He ended that war, pakistan.
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India just by force of will.
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So he's the right guy.
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And he's the right guy to allow business
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To be done with moscow.
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So how badly do you think that putin
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Wants to fire up the economy
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By making trump happy with the peace deal?
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I would hope that putin would set aside
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His ambitions for recreating imperial russia, or recreating
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The soviet union, and start to look at a reasonable future
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He has in the palm of his hand right now.
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If he can cut a deal with president trump and bro
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And let him broker
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This peace deal and put peace in western europe.
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The united states and russia
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Could merge together
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And really do some incredible things.
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It would be peace in europe,
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And that would set china off on its own
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And make them give them pause to what they're really doing.
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If he doesn't,
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The president has already you said he's going to crush
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The russian economy, and he can very easily.
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All he has to do is tell those who are doing business
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With the united states,
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If you want to continue to do business with us,
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You cannot do business with russia.
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And at that point, the russian economy implodes.
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It's already in trouble.
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It's staggering. it would implode.
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And then what would happen with domestic unrest
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Inside russia and putin's grasp on power?
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Well, i want to ask you about the china factor.
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You know, we we know that china has helped russia.
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China is building up its own military,
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And china has put out some big objections
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To president trump's plan for a strategic missile
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Defense system similar to israel's iron dome.
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So do you think that president trump
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Is right to try to pull putin away
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From china, as he's working on this peace deal with ukraine?
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Absolutely.
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It was initially thought, i believe, in the in the halls
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Of power in washington, that what would happen
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Is that nixon's visit to china would bring china
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Into the world economy,
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And that it would be the united states and china
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Against russia to outweigh russia.
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Now, i think those tables have turned,
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And it's in putin's opportunity.
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If he just would,
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It could be the united states and russia,
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And then china would be the outlier.
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And that would be for world peace.
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That would be absolutely huge, because this nonsense of talking
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About russia
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And china teaming up together against the united states.
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If you look deep into russian history
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And into the what i call their dna, their political dna,
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Their threat has always been from the far east.
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Now, of course, napoleon invaded
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And hitler invaded from the west.
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Yes, i get that.
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But they were always worried about what they called
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The yellow menace.
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It was the chinese because if you look at where
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The russian population is, it's all in the west.
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They have hardly anything in the east.
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All of that territory, all those 12 or 13 time zones.
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Most of them are unpopulated,
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And they're all sitting right above the landmass of china.
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So if the chinese wanted to go up and take
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All those natural resources and take that, that land,
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The only thing that they could do is resort,
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Resort to a nuclear confrontation
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Because they don't have the troops
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To cover that vast area of land.
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And the mass of the chinese military.
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Well, on the plus side, the general sense in washington
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Is that because nato is engaged
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In the negotiation with putin and zelensky,
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China is unlikely to try to move on taiwan,
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At least while president trump is in office.
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Do you agree with that thinking?
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I absolutely agree that the chinese will not
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Take kinetic action against taiwan
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As long as president trump is in office.
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I absolutely agree with that.
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And that's
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Because they've seen what he's done since he's been back.
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Not just his first term, but since he's been back.
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There's a whole new sheriff in town,
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And this is
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A different administration than that first administration.
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It wasn't the administration where he fell
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In on the washington apparatchiks.
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No, he's handpicked his people.
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And if you look at who's who's running this country now
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With the president and his cabinet.
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Solid.
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Really solid.
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And it's going to be a uniform response.
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There won't be any bickering.
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And the chinese know that when trump calls the shots.
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That's the way it's going to play out.
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And they're scared of that.
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Well, captain ash, it's really quite striking to witness
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How much president trump has accomplished
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In such a short time on the border.
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The economy, crime, cutting government
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Spending of the taxes that we pay.
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Do you think
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All of that momentum will serve him well in trying
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To get putin and zelensky to put down their weapons?
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I think so, because that's the other thing that
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Now that you bring that up, it's an important point
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Because these foreign adversaries
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Have to look at it and wonder, is this just trump acting alone,
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Or does he have the domestic political support
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That he needs to carry through on this?
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And he does.
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He now has the domestic political support
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To where it's not just trump acting alone
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With his with his hand-picked cabinet.
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You know, the american people are behind him.
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They're seeing what's happening.
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And look at what's happening just in dc
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Over the last week or so.
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You know, crime is way down.
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They found out they were fudging their crime
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Statistics to make it look like it wasn't so bad.
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And now the people in dc are happy.
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The only people who are protesting the the protesters
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That are camped out
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At the railroad station on capitol hill.
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Other than that, the people are happy
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That they're cleaning up the streets of washington.
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Well, he's not going to stop there.
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Like we talked about in the first segment.
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He's already solved four wars,
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Shut down the 35 year war that was going on.
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So cleaning up the streets of d.c.,
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That's chump change compared to what he's got planned for.
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For bringing peace to the rest of the world.
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Well, captain ash, thank you for joining us today.
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You always bring clarity to confusing circumstances.
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My pleasure. pastor. thank you.
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Enjoy the rest of your summer.
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Hope to see you again soon.
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In a moment, i'll share my sense of hope and all this.
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We can get to a better place.
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I'll be right back.
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I'll be right back.
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When the ukraine war first began.
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For several weeks, i was on zoom calls with leaders
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In the christian community in the ukraine.
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It was tragic to hear the stories
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Of the civilian populations being targeted.
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The residential buildings
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That were being decimated by rocket fire.
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You know,
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Here in the united states, we think about war differently.
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It's almost like it were a video game.
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It doesn't really feel real to us.
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Well, consider this for a moment.
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More than 2.5
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Million homes across ukraine have been damaged or destroyed,
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According to the united nations.
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The russian invasion of ukraine has forced 10 million
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Ukrainians to flee their homes, with over 3 million displaced
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Within the country and 7 million ukrainians displaced abroad.
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Just imagine what this war has done
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To the children of ukraine. how it's affected
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Them emotionally upended their educations.
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So many deaths on the battlefield, on both sides.
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The war is russia's deadliest conflict since world war two.
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You know,
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There's not a solution that's going to make everybody happy.
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But the bloodshed and the warfare, it needs to stop.
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So i'm thankful for the grown up voices like president
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Trump that are saying,
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We have to bring a resolution to this conflict.
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And i believe you and i have a role to play.
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We can pray.
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We can ask god in his mercy to let the participants
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Be willing to negotiate a conclusion.
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Prayers matter.
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Let's be a part of the solution
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And not just complain about the politicians.
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We'll do that.
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There's more reasons for hope than despair.
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I promise we'll be right back with your emails.
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I promise we'll be right back with your emails.
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Thank you for taking the time to send us your emails.
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They are always a highlight for us.
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Rhonda from indiana wrote in i'm watching the episode
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Now with a border agent from arizona,
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Art deco cato,
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And my heart is just breaking hearing all of this.
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I'll pray for art,
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His men and the children who did not ask for this injustice.
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May god protect them all.
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Well, rhonda, we will join you in those prayers
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And thank god that he has.
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We have secured our border and we brought some common sense
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Back to the immigration question.
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It is a safer place. what we've been doing in
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The previous years was not compassion.
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Suki, from cedar falls, iowa, emailed
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As i listened to all the information
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Regarding the russian collusion.
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Is there been any feedback from the russians?
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I mean, this has been going on for years,
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And i wonder if russia has ever responded
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To accusations one way or the other.
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Thank you for your program and all you do.
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God bless you.
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Well, sue, i don't know the answer
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To that officially, but i suspect
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The russians have been delighted to imagine
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They were contributing to chaos in america,
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And they had to have some good
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Laughs at the feckless nature of our legacy media,
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And their willingness to tell the lies and ignore the truth.
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God help us.
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Melanie.
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Melanie in tennessee ask after watching the episode
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With guest representative warren davidson,
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All i can say is, wow, i'm watching today's episode
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And there are so many issues i didn't realize.
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Where can my husband watch this episode after work?
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Well, melanie, i'm glad you asked.
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You can always go to aj now.
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Dot com there's a full archive of all the programs there.
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You can see any show you missed or share it with a friend.
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That'll help us all.
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Well, i'm alan jackson.
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Thank you for spending a few minutes with us.
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And i pray you have a wonderful evening.
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Allen Jackson: Putin's Motives | Allen Jackson Now

August 21, 2025 | 22:2

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