Allen Jackson: Reckless Leadership | Allen Jackson Now

December 9, 2025 | 21:59

Jonathan Fahey joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.

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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Reckless Leadership | Allen Jackson Now | December 9, 2025
  • Good evening and welcome to nashville.
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  • I'm alan jackson.
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  • I'm home and had some very good news to report recently.
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  • More than 60,000 children have been rescued by ice agents
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  • This year.
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  • Children that have been brought into the country
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  • With either no parent or no where to go,
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  • And they ended up in the hands of smugglers,
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  • Selling them to sweatshops and child molesters.
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  • You know, overall,
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  • 300,000 unaccompanied
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  • Children entered the country over the last four years.
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  • It's a nightmare at any time.
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  • But even more painful
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  • To know that they're hidden in our midst
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  • While we're seeing family and friends
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  • And getting ready for christmas.
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  • Well, if you add to that, the push
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  • Back on ice and the national guard
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  • As they work 24 seven to try to keep us safe.
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  • For example, here's the new york city
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  • Mayor elect giving out tips on how to resist ice.
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  • Well, we can all
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  • Stand up to ice if you know your rights.
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  • Ice is legally allowed to lie to you,
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  • But you have the right to remain silent.
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  • If you're being detained, you may always ask,
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  • Am i free to go repeatedly until i answer you?
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  • You are legally allowed to film ice
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  • As long as you do not interfere with an arrest.
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  • It is important to remain calm during any interaction with ice
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  • Or law enforcement.
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  • Do not, in their investigation resist arrest or run.
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  • One last thing.
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  • New yorkers have a constitutional right to protest.
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  • And when i i'm mayor, we will protect that right?
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  • You know, i don't think anyone is surprised to see mamdani
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  • Stirring up resistance, including our guest tonight.
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  • It's the former acting ice director, jonathan fahy.
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  • Welcome back, sir.
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  • Thank you. glad to be here.
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  • You know, it's not clear yet if mamdani
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  • Or any of the other city mayors who are pushing back
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  • Can be prosecuted for what they're doing,
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  • But how they're going to explain and defend the crime
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  • That comes from this reckless behavior.
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  • Yeah, that's the worst part of it all.
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  • We've seen in some places like both new york
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  • And in illinois,
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  • The number of criminals that have been let out in the streets
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  • That had ice detainers on them, meaning they should have they
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  • If they were cooperating with ice,
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  • They could have turned them over to ice
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  • And had them deported, but instead
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  • They remained in the country.
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  • And it just shows really, the democrats
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  • As a party are so radical on this issue.
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  • They'd rather have illegal alien criminals
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  • Remain in this country than deport them.
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  • And what's interesting about what mondale is doing,
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  • He's trying to, like, walk a fine line
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  • On the inside of obstruction.
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  • But what's really shameful about what he's doing?
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  • He's maligning ice agents, suggesting what they are doing
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  • Is illegitimate, when in fact they're keeping us safe.
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  • It would be a lot better if he if he said something like,
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  • They're only after illegal aliens and not legal immigrants,
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  • But he tries to scare the entire immigrant community,
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  • Which is very cynical.
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  • And you see that a lot with politicians.
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  • They try to conflate them both and scare the entire community.
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  • But yeah, we're really sort of new yorkers.
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  • Well, if you said
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  • Ice has a legitimate job to do enforcing federal law,
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  • We're not going to stand either way.
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  • But you could if you disagree with it, you're free to protest.
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  • But the best way to deal with it,
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  • If we want an open border, if we want mass amnesty,
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  • Which the democrats want,
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  • Is go to the ballot box and vote for it
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  • And ask to have it passed in congress.
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  • But they can't say that because they know
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  • The american people don't support it.
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  • So they use all of these, like i said, cynical moves
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  • To achieve their policy.
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  • And they're not really protesting ice.
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  • What they're actually doing is trying to prevent ice
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  • From doing their job, which is different altogether.
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  • Well, as i mentioned in my opening,
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  • You know, isis already been able to rescue
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  • More than 60,000 children from the hands of smugglers.
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  • Can you tell us what's next for them,
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  • Especially in this cold winter?
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  • Do they ever get matched back up with their parents?
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  • Yeah,
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  • I think a lot of what they are
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  • Going to try to do is figure out one who these kids were,
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  • Who were they were put with?
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  • Because when these unaccompanied minors come to the border,
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  • There's office of refugee resettlement
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  • Puts on with sponsors and a lot of times
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  • These sponsors weren't who they say they were.
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  • They didn't go where they said they were going to go.
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  • So they need a you know, they'll have, you know,
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  • Hopefully they could match them with their parents ideally
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  • Or responsible family members or other responsible
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  • Members of a community that can take care of them.
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  • And some of these, you know, we always talk about
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  • The unaccompanied minors and things of that nature.
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  • And a lot of times people sort of pictured
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  • Is just really little children
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  • Coming across, which is sometimes the case.
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  • But a lot of times the unaccompanied minors
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  • Or people that are 16, 17 years old or even adults,
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  • They were pretending to be children
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  • Because we had a policy where we'd let them in the country.
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  • So the whole thing is very
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  • Complicated, but it's really shameful
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  • On the biden administration, because they let the border
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  • Get so out of control that it was really impossible
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  • To keep track of any of these children,
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  • To make sure they were safe.
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  • And that really the
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  • The biden administration reduced sort of border patrol
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  • To a media processing, almost like they were the
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  • Maitre d of illegal aliens, and they really weren't able
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  • To be careful enough
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  • To make sure the people they were letting in
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  • Were who they say they were, the age
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  • They said they were,
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  • And that they were safe and that they were.
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  • If they were minors,
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  • They were being placed with people
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  • That were going to keep the minors safe.
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  • So the whole thing is such a mess.
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  • And tom holland, kristi noem, the white house, they've done
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  • Such a good job on stopping what's going on at the border
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  • So they could focus on getting these,
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  • Getting these kids, finding them, making sure they're safe.
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  • If they're not safe, put in somewhere that they can be safe.
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  • The maitre d of illegal immigration.
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  • That's a really good image. thank you for that.
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  • Peter schweitzer is government
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  • Accountability institute and his vice
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  • President of research, seamus bruner.
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  • They've reported on what they're calling the riot ink.
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  • That's their shorthand name for the many groups,
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  • Like the one funded by george soros,
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  • That's paying the protesters
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  • And moving them from city to city to cause trouble.
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  • That's in large part how these photo ops
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  • Are being driven behind the curtain.
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  • But what are you hearing from regular folks who clearly want
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  • The criminals arrested and evicted from the country?
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  • Yes, i think the the regular
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  • Rake at just sort of the average american, 85% of them.
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  • I think latest polling wants illegal aliens
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  • To commit crimes removed from the country.
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  • And these groups, like you said, they're they're funded by
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  • Sometimes these soros groups or these socialist groups.
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  • But again, they're funded not again to speak out
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  • And just raise their voices.
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  • They're actually being used to thwart ice to to intimidate
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  • Ice agents, to, to prevent them from doing their job.
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  • And again,
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  • Their job is not only getting the criminals out,
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  • But getting illegal aliens out and also preventing
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  • Other illegal aliens or coming into the country.
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  • And it's really, again, just so shameful
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  • Because these agents, these are people.
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  • They put their lives on the line
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  • For all of us every single day.
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  • And we don't even a lot of times.
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  • I mean, i know you do and all of your viewers do,
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  • But it's only many people don't appreciate.
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  • A lot of times the safety we have is because of something
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  • Somebody did maybe last year or last week or whatever,
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  • And we don't even know that our lives were saved
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  • And our loved ones lives were saved.
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  • So what's going on
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  • With these groups, again, is just to disrupt
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  • Ice, doing a lawful and legitimate job
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  • That was authorized by laws of congress and president trump
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  • With all the grief he gets.
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  • So one thing that's really inarguable
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  • Is he's responsible for enforcing the law.
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  • This isn't an elective as part of the presidency.
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  • You're required to enforce federal law.
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  • And just because people see,
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  • You know, the biden presidency, they really didn't
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  • Enforce immigration law in any serious way
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  • Because they had a disagreement on policy.
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  • And look at the mess we have the,
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  • You know, the trump administration's
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  • Doing one to care to clean up, but it's a lot of work to do.
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  • Well, the new york times ignored immigration
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  • For the last four years,
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  • But they've now posted a story that says biden's aides told him
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  • That his approach to immigration
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  • Could prove disastrous just as he took office.
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  • Joe biden obviously ignored them,
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  • But it's not yet clear what the paper's agenda is now
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  • That they've suddenly discovered
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  • The 20 million illegal immigrants is a big problem.
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  • I'm bringing it up because the tv news decision
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  • Makers still rely on the times for their nightly narrative,
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  • And i can only imagine how hard it's been
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  • For people in your position
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  • To get the truth out to the american people.
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  • How do you do it?
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  • Yeah, that's a good point, because we've been saying this,
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  • Like a lot of us have been saying this
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  • Since the beginning of the biden administration, one,
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  • That this was predictable, but also it was intentional.
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  • And i think when you go back to
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  • Why did the new york times do this, it's
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  • Sort of akin to what, you know, jake tapper
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  • And some of these other people have done with the joe biden,
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  • You know, cognitive decline or deficiency.
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  • They have to cover it now.
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  • So it's
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  • So it's almost covering themselves,
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  • But it's really shameful about it.
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  • Is this is sort of widely known.
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  • There should have been more digging into it.
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  • And my theory, which i think this proves it, is
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  • They did this intentionally
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  • Because their view was these illegal aliens would be more
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  • Likely to be democratic voters,
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  • And they would bring as many as they could in.
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  • And then at some point,
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  • They throw out their hands and say, well,
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  • The only way we could do to secure
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  • The border is if we, you know, give amnesty to everyone here.
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  • And which is exactly what they did.
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  • The only other option, which is sort of the new york times
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  • Narrative, is trying to suggest that was sort of
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  • Sort of more just incompetence within the administration
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  • That they they just didn't handle this well.
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  • But it's it's far too, you know, conveniently helpful
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  • For them for it not to have been intentional.
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  • I think their only real mistake on
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  • From what
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  • They were trying to do is it
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  • They were almost two successful in bringing
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  • So many illegal aliens in the country.
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  • The the public sort of got wind of it and saw how bad it was.
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  • But yeah, the new york times, people rely on them.
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  • But it's certainly,
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  • You know, a day late, the dollar short for them.
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  • But, you know, because a lot of us
  • 00:09:46.477 --> 00:09:47.979
  • Follow this knew this was going on.
  • 00:09:47.979 --> 00:09:49.814
  • But a lot of people do rely on the media, the mainstream media.
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  • And frankly, to the detriment of our country.
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  • Absolutely.
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  • Well, jonathan, we need to take a short break.
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  • Can you standby for another segment?
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  • Love to.
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  • We're back now with
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  • The former acting ice director jonathan fahy.
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  • Now that illegal traffic by land has been tightened up, u.s.
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  • Forces are working
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  • To stop the flood of drugs to our southern shores.
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  • Not surprisingly,
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  • The democrats are siding with two of the drug couriers
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  • Who were taken out with a second shot after their boat was hit.
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  • As a man who served in the us military, pete hegseth
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  • Has had to help educate them on what happens
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  • When you're at war with drug runners
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  • Who are killing americans with their poison.
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  • Listen to his comments.
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  • I fully support that strike.
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  • I would have made the same call myself.
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  • Those who were involved in 20 years of conflict in iraq
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  • And afghanistan or elsewhere, know that we attacks
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  • And strikes have combatants on the battlefield, happen often,
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  • You know, with traffic
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  • Getting tightened up on land and now at sea.
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  • Do you think
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  • We'll see an increase on drug running flights into the us?
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  • I think the drug runners will always sort of,
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  • You know,
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  • Wherever you can't get through, they always find
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  • The other option or look for the other option.
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  • Just when i was a federal prosecutor,
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  • You see what the airports want.
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  • One airport sort of had success.
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  • Lots of drugs would come through.
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  • And then once it was
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  • Cut down, they'd go through somewhere else.
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  • But the great thing about what the trump
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  • Administration is doing
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  • Is essentially we, i don't want to say
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  • Sealed the border
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  • Because there's always
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  • Ways to get it, but made it so much harder and now.
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  • So if you can't get over from land, it's harder.
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  • By by sea it's going to it's going to be harder
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  • By getting them through the air.
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  • And ultimately, the benefit will have one.
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  • It weakens the cartels.
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  • It makes, you know, they're only doing this to make money.
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  • So it makes it harder for them to make money.
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  • But we're going to see.
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  • I think in our country, a benefit in terms of
  • 00:12:03.846 --> 00:12:06.715
  • You look at these like the drug overdose death numbers.
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  • And i think they'll come out from the cdc maybe in february.
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  • We're going to see a massive decrease.
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  • And remember, we were averaging about 100,000 deaths
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  • Per year under the biden administration from drug deaths.
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  • And again, it's not just coincidental
  • 00:12:21.430 --> 00:12:23.465
  • Because remember, the border was wide open.
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  • And it wasn't just the illegal aliens coming through.
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  • It was that we basically turned over
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  • Our southern border to drug traffickers
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  • And human traffickers.
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  • So everything the trump
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  • Administration is doing on this is sending a message
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  • Not only to the people here,
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  • But to the people,
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  • You know, these drug traffickers were done
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  • Dealing with this, were done deal with the human traffickers.
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  • And it also sends a strong message
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  • To other countries, if you really think about it,
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  • You know, china with the precursors to fentanyl,
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  • When they see that
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  • Donald trump is serious
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  • About it to a level that they have not seen before.
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  • I think it's going to be a great deterrent.
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  • And also these countries in central and south america,
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  • It's going to be very encouraging
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  • To them to cooperate with us because they know
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  • We have a stronger and a play.
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  • So they're going to have to choose between us
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  • And the cartels.
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  • And the smarter move
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  • Is probably going to choose to be on our side.
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  • So all of these things,
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  • I think it's going to be a tremendous benefit
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  • To the american people. amen.
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  • Well, after the two national guard troops were shot
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  • In washington, d.c., the white house put travel
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  • Restrictions on 19 countries, including afghanistan.
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  • Now it seems clear that there's no good way
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  • To figure out who's safe to let in, especially when people come
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  • From countries where there's no real effective record keeping.
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  • Do you agree that the travel must be stopped,
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  • At least for now?
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  • And is there any better way to check on
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  • The people who want to come here
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  • So we don't just bring in more problems?
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  • Yeah, i agree that the travel should be stopped
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  • From the certain countries and the migration
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  • From the certain countries,
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  • And i don't know that we are in a position
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  • That we are ever going to be able to fully vet or even
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  • I don't say fully vet, but just meaningfully vet people
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  • From certain countries
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  • Because they don't have,
  • 00:14:02.097 --> 00:14:03.899
  • Like you said, record keeping or anything else.
  • 00:14:03.899 --> 00:14:06.135
  • And you think of somewhere like afghanistan.
  • 00:14:06.135 --> 00:14:08.337
  • It's not like you can call the local
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  • Afghanistan the taliban municipal office
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  • And ask somebody if somebody good
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  • To go to come here, you can't even
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  • Even if they were to
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  • Have the information, would they even share it?
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  • Would they be honest about it?
  • 00:14:21.116 --> 00:14:22.451
  • So whenever we're looking at these, you know, the,
  • 00:14:22.451 --> 00:14:25.187
  • You know, immigrants in any respect,
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  • Even though the american instinct
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  • Is to be kind of generous,
  • 00:14:29.158 --> 00:14:30.993
  • The responsibility still has to fall on american safety.
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  • And if we can't vet people meaningfully, unfortunately,
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  • They shouldn't get to come in.
  • 00:14:38.167 --> 00:14:39.535
  • And this person that came in, well,
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  • I don't know if there's anything
  • 00:14:41.470 --> 00:14:42.504
  • That could have been found out about it.
  • 00:14:42.504 --> 00:14:44.139
  • But the thing is, the default should be you don't come here
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  • And we don't wish ill on anyone, but we have to.
  • 00:14:47.743 --> 00:14:51.180
  • And the president
  • 00:14:51.180 --> 00:14:52.414
  • Trump understands this certainly better than his predecessor.
  • 00:14:52.414 --> 00:14:55.718
  • The american public safety is first and foremost.
  • 00:14:55.718 --> 00:14:58.220
  • And that what?
  • 00:14:58.220 --> 00:14:59.321
  • When there is a question and a close question,
  • 00:14:59.321 --> 00:15:02.091
  • You should always on the side of the american people.
  • 00:15:02.091 --> 00:15:05.894
  • One more brief question.
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  • It looks like it's going to take most
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  • Or all of the president's term to get all the people
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  • Who came here illegally either deported
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  • Or in the case of criminals, put in jail.
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  • Do you have any advice
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  • On what else could be done between now and then?
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  • I think the best thing that he is doing
  • 00:15:20.943 --> 00:15:24.079
  • Is one the deterrence aspect on the border,
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  • As well as deporting the criminals.
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  • But the other part is,
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  • You know, what they have. i think it's been about 1.6
  • 00:15:29.518 --> 00:15:32.221
  • Million people have self deported.
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  • So i think efforts
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  • To sort of increase that number, the self deportation number,
  • 00:15:36.058 --> 00:15:39.928
  • Might be a focus in the next few years
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  • Because once you sort of get the criminals under control,
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  • It might be sort of a,
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  • You know,
  • 00:15:46.301 --> 00:15:46.769
  • Once people know
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  • They're not going to get to stay,
  • 00:15:47.603 --> 00:15:48.504
  • They may take self-deportation option.
  • 00:15:48.504 --> 00:15:50.506
  • So i think that that might be a shift
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  • That you see even more heavier on that in the next three years.
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  • Wouldn't that be a wonderful christmas gift
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  • If the media and the politicians
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  • Would cooperate at encouraging self-deportation?
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  • Exactly.
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  • I would take the arrival of the king.
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  • Jonathan frey, thank you for sharing your time with us today.
  • 00:16:04.787 --> 00:16:07.890
  • I hope
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  • You have a wonderful christmas with your family and friends.
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  • Thank you. merry christmas.
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  • When we come back, the hope that penetrates beyond
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  • All the news. we'll be right back.
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  • All the news. we'll be right back.
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  • You know, most of us are
  • 00:16:29.208 --> 00:16:30.309
  • Familiar with the characters in the christmas story.
  • 00:16:30.309 --> 00:16:33.112
  • One of my favorites or recorded in matthew's
  • 00:16:33.112 --> 00:16:34.980
  • Gospel there, the wise men, those three nameless,
  • 00:16:34.980 --> 00:16:37.950
  • Faceless characters that made it a long,
  • 00:16:37.950 --> 00:16:40.986
  • Difficult journey in search of the christ child.
  • 00:16:40.986 --> 00:16:44.857
  • They stopped enroute to bethlehem in jerusalem.
  • 00:16:44.857 --> 00:16:47.760
  • They found themselves in herod's palace.
  • 00:16:47.760 --> 00:16:49.995
  • Herod knew nothing about it, but they didn't.
  • 00:16:49.995 --> 00:16:52.865
  • They persisted,
  • 00:16:52.865 --> 00:16:54.033
  • And they found their way to bethlehem, following a star.
  • 00:16:54.033 --> 00:16:57.236
  • They arrive in bethlehem.
  • 00:16:57.236 --> 00:16:59.038
  • They don't find a king in a palace.
  • 00:16:59.038 --> 00:17:00.606
  • They find a baby in a manger, in a stable.
  • 00:17:00.606 --> 00:17:04.143
  • It would have been very easy
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  • To be disappointed, but they weren't.
  • 00:17:05.377 --> 00:17:07.046
  • It says they rejoiced with great enthusiasm.
  • 00:17:07.046 --> 00:17:10.382
  • The greek language is very, very clear.
  • 00:17:10.382 --> 00:17:13.018
  • There was a tremendous celebration
  • 00:17:13.018 --> 00:17:15.087
  • When the wisemen got to bethlehem
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  • And finally discovered mary and joseph and baby jesus.
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  • Well, i want to make a suggestion.
  • 00:17:20.392 --> 00:17:21.627
  • This christmas season,
  • 00:17:21.627 --> 00:17:22.995
  • You and i are working through our own journeys.
  • 00:17:22.995 --> 00:17:25.331
  • Maybe we didn't
  • 00:17:25.331 --> 00:17:26.365
  • Start in a distant land that we certainly didn't
  • 00:17:26.365 --> 00:17:27.466
  • Have to ride camels a great distance,
  • 00:17:27.466 --> 00:17:29.568
  • But we're on a journey nonetheless,
  • 00:17:29.568 --> 00:17:31.203
  • And i find oftentimes i'm disappointed.
  • 00:17:31.203 --> 00:17:34.306
  • You know, my expectations of following god
  • 00:17:34.306 --> 00:17:36.375
  • And the reality of that often leave me with some questions.
  • 00:17:36.375 --> 00:17:41.013
  • Well, the wisemen followed a star
  • 00:17:41.013 --> 00:17:42.615
  • And they ended up in a stable in a barn.
  • 00:17:42.615 --> 00:17:45.117
  • And yet they celebrated.
  • 00:17:45.117 --> 00:17:46.352
  • They found god's purposes for themselves.
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  • I want to suggest you and i can do the same.
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  • Don't give in to disappointment
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  • In the midst of a holiday season
  • 00:17:52.224 --> 00:17:53.792
  • Because it doesn't align perfectly with your dreams.
  • 00:17:53.792 --> 00:17:57.129
  • Let's determine
  • 00:17:57.129 --> 00:17:58.230
  • That the purposes of god are emerging in the earth,
  • 00:17:58.230 --> 00:18:00.099
  • And we've got the privilege of being a part of it,
  • 00:18:00.099 --> 00:18:02.168
  • Even if the moment it feels like we're standing in a
  • 00:18:02.168 --> 00:18:04.270
  • Stable up to our knees and stuff that needs cleaned out.
  • 00:18:04.270 --> 00:18:07.606
  • God's moving in the earth, and we get to be a part of that.
  • 00:18:07.606 --> 00:18:10.476
  • And that's a reason to celebrate.
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  • That's a reason for hope.
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  • William in katy, texas wrote,
  • 00:18:46.209 --> 00:18:49.178
  • There are laws on the books
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  • That would clean up the illegal problem
  • 00:18:50.413 --> 00:18:52.281
  • And crime in our cities,
  • 00:18:52.281 --> 00:18:53.616
  • But it's quite obvious that those who charge
  • 00:18:53.616 --> 00:18:55.618
  • Don't have the will to enforce them,
  • 00:18:55.618 --> 00:18:57.553
  • Whether they're conservative or liberal.
  • 00:18:57.553 --> 00:18:59.855
  • The state governors could, but they won't enforce the laws
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  • And create a safer environment.
  • 00:19:02.525 --> 00:19:04.427
  • Our christian churches have been too silent
  • 00:19:04.427 --> 00:19:06.495
  • As a group on the subject, so not to offend,
  • 00:19:06.495 --> 00:19:09.765
  • Speaking the hard truth and enforcing the law.
  • 00:19:09.765 --> 00:19:12.435
  • How do we get there?
  • 00:19:12.435 --> 00:19:14.203
  • Well, i think it starts with intent.
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  • I'm not a governor or the mayor of a city.
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  • I'm just a citizen. i am a pastor.
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  • You can start in the place
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  • You are with the intent to submit yourself
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  • To the discipline of the rule of law.
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  • If we will do that, if we'll start submitting to god's laws.
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  • Do the simple things.
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  • Get your family together once a week at the table for a meal.
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  • No devices.
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  • Read your bible on a regular basis.
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  • If we'll take those simple steps to start to
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  • Put back in place.
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  • Submitting to the law of god, i believe it'll
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  • Bring good things to the entire nation.
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  • It makes a difference.
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  • Russ, from michigan said, once again, i can't
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  • Thank you enough for all that you do to bring god's truth
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  • To a really messed up world in this season we're in.
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  • I would think rather than trying to put the world
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  • To get the world with christ back in christmas,
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  • I believe we'd be a whole lot better
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  • If we were to put christ back in christians.
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  • Russ, i couldn't agree more.
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  • If those of us
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  • That sit in the churches will start
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  • To act like christ followers again,
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  • The world will be a better place.
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  • We've got to stop pointing to the windows and accusing others.
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  • We have to decide to become the solution ourselves.
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  • Thanks for the reminder.
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  • Well, i'm alan jackson and i pray you have a wonderful
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  • Evening.
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