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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Reckless Leadership | Allen Jackson Now | December 9, 2025
- Good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- I'm home and had some very good news to report recently.
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- More than 60,000 children have been rescued by ice agents
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- This year.
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- Children that have been brought into the country
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- With either no parent or no where to go,
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- And they ended up in the hands of smugglers,
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- Selling them to sweatshops and child molesters.
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- You know, overall,
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- 300,000 unaccompanied
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- Children entered the country over the last four years.
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- It's a nightmare at any time.
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- But even more painful
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- To know that they're hidden in our midst
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- While we're seeing family and friends
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- And getting ready for christmas.
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- Well, if you add to that, the push
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- Back on ice and the national guard
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- As they work 24 seven to try to keep us safe.
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- For example, here's the new york city
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- Mayor elect giving out tips on how to resist ice.
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- Well, we can all
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- Stand up to ice if you know your rights.
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- Ice is legally allowed to lie to you,
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- But you have the right to remain silent.
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- If you're being detained, you may always ask,
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- Am i free to go repeatedly until i answer you?
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- You are legally allowed to film ice
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- As long as you do not interfere with an arrest.
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- It is important to remain calm during any interaction with ice
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- Or law enforcement.
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- Do not, in their investigation resist arrest or run.
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- One last thing.
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- New yorkers have a constitutional right to protest.
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- And when i i'm mayor, we will protect that right?
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- You know, i don't think anyone is surprised to see mamdani
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- Stirring up resistance, including our guest tonight.
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- It's the former acting ice director, jonathan fahy.
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- Welcome back, sir.
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- Thank you. glad to be here.
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- You know, it's not clear yet if mamdani
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- Or any of the other city mayors who are pushing back
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- Can be prosecuted for what they're doing,
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- But how they're going to explain and defend the crime
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- That comes from this reckless behavior.
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- Yeah, that's the worst part of it all.
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- We've seen in some places like both new york
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- And in illinois,
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- The number of criminals that have been let out in the streets
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- That had ice detainers on them, meaning they should have they
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- If they were cooperating with ice,
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- They could have turned them over to ice
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- And had them deported, but instead
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- They remained in the country.
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- And it just shows really, the democrats
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- As a party are so radical on this issue.
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- They'd rather have illegal alien criminals
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- Remain in this country than deport them.
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- And what's interesting about what mondale is doing,
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- He's trying to, like, walk a fine line
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- On the inside of obstruction.
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- But what's really shameful about what he's doing?
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- He's maligning ice agents, suggesting what they are doing
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- Is illegitimate, when in fact they're keeping us safe.
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- It would be a lot better if he if he said something like,
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- They're only after illegal aliens and not legal immigrants,
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- But he tries to scare the entire immigrant community,
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- Which is very cynical.
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- And you see that a lot with politicians.
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- They try to conflate them both and scare the entire community.
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- But yeah, we're really sort of new yorkers.
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- Well, if you said
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- Ice has a legitimate job to do enforcing federal law,
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- We're not going to stand either way.
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- But you could if you disagree with it, you're free to protest.
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- But the best way to deal with it,
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- If we want an open border, if we want mass amnesty,
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- Which the democrats want,
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- Is go to the ballot box and vote for it
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- And ask to have it passed in congress.
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- But they can't say that because they know
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- The american people don't support it.
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- So they use all of these, like i said, cynical moves
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- To achieve their policy.
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- And they're not really protesting ice.
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- What they're actually doing is trying to prevent ice
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- From doing their job, which is different altogether.
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- Well, as i mentioned in my opening,
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- You know, isis already been able to rescue
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- More than 60,000 children from the hands of smugglers.
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- Can you tell us what's next for them,
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- Especially in this cold winter?
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- Do they ever get matched back up with their parents?
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- Yeah,
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- I think a lot of what they are
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- Going to try to do is figure out one who these kids were,
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- Who were they were put with?
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- Because when these unaccompanied minors come to the border,
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- There's office of refugee resettlement
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- Puts on with sponsors and a lot of times
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- These sponsors weren't who they say they were.
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- They didn't go where they said they were going to go.
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- So they need a you know, they'll have, you know,
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- Hopefully they could match them with their parents ideally
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- Or responsible family members or other responsible
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- Members of a community that can take care of them.
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- And some of these, you know, we always talk about
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- The unaccompanied minors and things of that nature.
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- And a lot of times people sort of pictured
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- Is just really little children
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- Coming across, which is sometimes the case.
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- But a lot of times the unaccompanied minors
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- Or people that are 16, 17 years old or even adults,
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- They were pretending to be children
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- Because we had a policy where we'd let them in the country.
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- So the whole thing is very
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- Complicated, but it's really shameful
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- On the biden administration, because they let the border
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- Get so out of control that it was really impossible
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- To keep track of any of these children,
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- To make sure they were safe.
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- And that really the
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- The biden administration reduced sort of border patrol
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- To a media processing, almost like they were the
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- Maitre d of illegal aliens, and they really weren't able
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- To be careful enough
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- To make sure the people they were letting in
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- Were who they say they were, the age
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- They said they were,
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- And that they were safe and that they were.
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- If they were minors,
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- They were being placed with people
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- That were going to keep the minors safe.
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- So the whole thing is such a mess.
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- And tom holland, kristi noem, the white house, they've done
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- Such a good job on stopping what's going on at the border
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- So they could focus on getting these,
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- Getting these kids, finding them, making sure they're safe.
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- If they're not safe, put in somewhere that they can be safe.
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- The maitre d of illegal immigration.
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- That's a really good image. thank you for that.
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- Peter schweitzer is government
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- Accountability institute and his vice
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- President of research, seamus bruner.
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- They've reported on what they're calling the riot ink.
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- That's their shorthand name for the many groups,
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- Like the one funded by george soros,
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- That's paying the protesters
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- And moving them from city to city to cause trouble.
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- That's in large part how these photo ops
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- Are being driven behind the curtain.
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- But what are you hearing from regular folks who clearly want
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- The criminals arrested and evicted from the country?
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- Yes, i think the the regular
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- Rake at just sort of the average american, 85% of them.
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- I think latest polling wants illegal aliens
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- To commit crimes removed from the country.
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- And these groups, like you said, they're they're funded by
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- Sometimes these soros groups or these socialist groups.
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- But again, they're funded not again to speak out
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- And just raise their voices.
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- They're actually being used to thwart ice to to intimidate
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- Ice agents, to, to prevent them from doing their job.
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- And again,
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- Their job is not only getting the criminals out,
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- But getting illegal aliens out and also preventing
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- Other illegal aliens or coming into the country.
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- And it's really, again, just so shameful
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- Because these agents, these are people.
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- They put their lives on the line
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- For all of us every single day.
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- And we don't even a lot of times.
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- I mean, i know you do and all of your viewers do,
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- But it's only many people don't appreciate.
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- A lot of times the safety we have is because of something
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- Somebody did maybe last year or last week or whatever,
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- And we don't even know that our lives were saved
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- And our loved ones lives were saved.
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- So what's going on
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- With these groups, again, is just to disrupt
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- Ice, doing a lawful and legitimate job
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- That was authorized by laws of congress and president trump
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- With all the grief he gets.
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- So one thing that's really inarguable
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- Is he's responsible for enforcing the law.
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- This isn't an elective as part of the presidency.
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- You're required to enforce federal law.
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- And just because people see,
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- You know, the biden presidency, they really didn't
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- Enforce immigration law in any serious way
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- Because they had a disagreement on policy.
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- And look at the mess we have the,
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- You know, the trump administration's
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- Doing one to care to clean up, but it's a lot of work to do.
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- Well, the new york times ignored immigration
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- For the last four years,
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- But they've now posted a story that says biden's aides told him
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- That his approach to immigration
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- Could prove disastrous just as he took office.
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- Joe biden obviously ignored them,
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- But it's not yet clear what the paper's agenda is now
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- That they've suddenly discovered
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- The 20 million illegal immigrants is a big problem.
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- I'm bringing it up because the tv news decision
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- Makers still rely on the times for their nightly narrative,
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- And i can only imagine how hard it's been
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- For people in your position
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- To get the truth out to the american people.
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- How do you do it?
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- Yeah, that's a good point, because we've been saying this,
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- Like a lot of us have been saying this
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- Since the beginning of the biden administration, one,
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- That this was predictable, but also it was intentional.
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- And i think when you go back to
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- Why did the new york times do this, it's
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- Sort of akin to what, you know, jake tapper
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- And some of these other people have done with the joe biden,
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- You know, cognitive decline or deficiency.
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- They have to cover it now.
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- So it's
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- So it's almost covering themselves,
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- But it's really shameful about it.
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- Is this is sort of widely known.
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- There should have been more digging into it.
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- And my theory, which i think this proves it, is
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- They did this intentionally
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- Because their view was these illegal aliens would be more
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- Likely to be democratic voters,
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- And they would bring as many as they could in.
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- And then at some point,
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- They throw out their hands and say, well,
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- The only way we could do to secure
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- The border is if we, you know, give amnesty to everyone here.
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- And which is exactly what they did.
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- The only other option, which is sort of the new york times
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- Narrative, is trying to suggest that was sort of
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- Sort of more just incompetence within the administration
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- That they they just didn't handle this well.
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- But it's it's far too, you know, conveniently helpful
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- For them for it not to have been intentional.
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- I think their only real mistake on
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- From what
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- They were trying to do is it
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- They were almost two successful in bringing
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- So many illegal aliens in the country.
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- The the public sort of got wind of it and saw how bad it was.
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- But yeah, the new york times, people rely on them.
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- But it's certainly,
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- You know, a day late, the dollar short for them.
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- But, you know, because a lot of us
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- Follow this knew this was going on.
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- But a lot of people do rely on the media, the mainstream media.
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- And frankly, to the detriment of our country.
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- Absolutely.
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- Well, jonathan, we need to take a short break.
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- Can you standby for another segment?
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- Love to.
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- And during the break, you can log on to aj now.com
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- And see what's available,
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- We're back now with
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- The former acting ice director jonathan fahy.
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- Now that illegal traffic by land has been tightened up, u.s.
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- Forces are working
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- To stop the flood of drugs to our southern shores.
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- Not surprisingly,
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- The democrats are siding with two of the drug couriers
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- Who were taken out with a second shot after their boat was hit.
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- As a man who served in the us military, pete hegseth
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- Has had to help educate them on what happens
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- When you're at war with drug runners
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- Who are killing americans with their poison.
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- Listen to his comments.
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- I fully support that strike.
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- I would have made the same call myself.
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- Those who were involved in 20 years of conflict in iraq
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- And afghanistan or elsewhere, know that we attacks
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- And strikes have combatants on the battlefield, happen often,
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- You know, with traffic
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- Getting tightened up on land and now at sea.
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- Do you think
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- We'll see an increase on drug running flights into the us?
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- I think the drug runners will always sort of,
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- You know,
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- Wherever you can't get through, they always find
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- The other option or look for the other option.
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- Just when i was a federal prosecutor,
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- You see what the airports want.
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- One airport sort of had success.
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- Lots of drugs would come through.
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- And then once it was
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- Cut down, they'd go through somewhere else.
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- But the great thing about what the trump
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- Administration is doing
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- Is essentially we, i don't want to say
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- Sealed the border
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- Because there's always
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- Ways to get it, but made it so much harder and now.
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- So if you can't get over from land, it's harder.
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- By by sea it's going to it's going to be harder
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- By getting them through the air.
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- And ultimately, the benefit will have one.
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- It weakens the cartels.
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- It makes, you know, they're only doing this to make money.
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- So it makes it harder for them to make money.
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- But we're going to see.
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- I think in our country, a benefit in terms of
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- You look at these like the drug overdose death numbers.
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- And i think they'll come out from the cdc maybe in february.
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- We're going to see a massive decrease.
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- And remember, we were averaging about 100,000 deaths
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- Per year under the biden administration from drug deaths.
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- And again, it's not just coincidental
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- Because remember, the border was wide open.
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- And it wasn't just the illegal aliens coming through.
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- It was that we basically turned over
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- Our southern border to drug traffickers
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- And human traffickers.
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- So everything the trump
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- Administration is doing on this is sending a message
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- Not only to the people here,
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- But to the people,
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- You know, these drug traffickers were done
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- Dealing with this, were done deal with the human traffickers.
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- And it also sends a strong message
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- To other countries, if you really think about it,
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- You know, china with the precursors to fentanyl,
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- When they see that
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- Donald trump is serious
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- About it to a level that they have not seen before.
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- I think it's going to be a great deterrent.
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- And also these countries in central and south america,
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- It's going to be very encouraging
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- To them to cooperate with us because they know
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- We have a stronger and a play.
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- So they're going to have to choose between us
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- And the cartels.
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- And the smarter move
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- Is probably going to choose to be on our side.
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- So all of these things,
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- I think it's going to be a tremendous benefit
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- To the american people. amen.
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- Well, after the two national guard troops were shot
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- In washington, d.c., the white house put travel
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- Restrictions on 19 countries, including afghanistan.
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- Now it seems clear that there's no good way
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- To figure out who's safe to let in, especially when people come
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- From countries where there's no real effective record keeping.
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- Do you agree that the travel must be stopped,
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- At least for now?
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- And is there any better way to check on
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- The people who want to come here
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- So we don't just bring in more problems?
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- Yeah, i agree that the travel should be stopped
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- From the certain countries and the migration
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- From the certain countries,
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- And i don't know that we are in a position
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- That we are ever going to be able to fully vet or even
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- I don't say fully vet, but just meaningfully vet people
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- From certain countries
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- Because they don't have,
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- Like you said, record keeping or anything else.
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- And you think of somewhere like afghanistan.
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- It's not like you can call the local
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- Afghanistan the taliban municipal office
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- And ask somebody if somebody good
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- To go to come here, you can't even
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- Even if they were to
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- Have the information, would they even share it?
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- Would they be honest about it?
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- So whenever we're looking at these, you know, the,
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- You know, immigrants in any respect,
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- Even though the american instinct
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- Is to be kind of generous,
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- The responsibility still has to fall on american safety.
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- And if we can't vet people meaningfully, unfortunately,
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- They shouldn't get to come in.
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- And this person that came in, well,
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- I don't know if there's anything
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- That could have been found out about it.
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- But the thing is, the default should be you don't come here
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- And we don't wish ill on anyone, but we have to.
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- And the president
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- Trump understands this certainly better than his predecessor.
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- The american public safety is first and foremost.
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- And that what?
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- When there is a question and a close question,
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- You should always on the side of the american people.
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- One more brief question.
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- It looks like it's going to take most
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- Or all of the president's term to get all the people
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- Who came here illegally either deported
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- Or in the case of criminals, put in jail.
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- Do you have any advice
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- On what else could be done between now and then?
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- I think the best thing that he is doing
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- Is one the deterrence aspect on the border,
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- As well as deporting the criminals.
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- But the other part is,
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- You know, what they have. i think it's been about 1.6
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- Million people have self deported.
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- So i think efforts
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- To sort of increase that number, the self deportation number,
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- Might be a focus in the next few years
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- Because once you sort of get the criminals under control,
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- It might be sort of a,
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- You know,
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- Once people know
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- They're not going to get to stay,
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- They may take self-deportation option.
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- So i think that that might be a shift
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- That you see even more heavier on that in the next three years.
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- Wouldn't that be a wonderful christmas gift
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- If the media and the politicians
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- Would cooperate at encouraging self-deportation?
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- Exactly.
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- I would take the arrival of the king.
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- Jonathan frey, thank you for sharing your time with us today.
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- I hope
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- You have a wonderful christmas with your family and friends.
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- Thank you. merry christmas.
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- When we come back, the hope that penetrates beyond
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- All the news. we'll be right back.
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- All the news. we'll be right back.
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- You know, most of us are
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- Familiar with the characters in the christmas story.
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- One of my favorites or recorded in matthew's
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- Gospel there, the wise men, those three nameless,
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- Faceless characters that made it a long,
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- Difficult journey in search of the christ child.
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- They stopped enroute to bethlehem in jerusalem.
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- They found themselves in herod's palace.
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- Herod knew nothing about it, but they didn't.
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- They persisted,
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- And they found their way to bethlehem, following a star.
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- They arrive in bethlehem.
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- They don't find a king in a palace.
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- They find a baby in a manger, in a stable.
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- It would have been very easy
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- To be disappointed, but they weren't.
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- It says they rejoiced with great enthusiasm.
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- The greek language is very, very clear.
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- There was a tremendous celebration
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- When the wisemen got to bethlehem
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- And finally discovered mary and joseph and baby jesus.
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- Well, i want to make a suggestion.
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- This christmas season,
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- You and i are working through our own journeys.
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- Maybe we didn't
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- Start in a distant land that we certainly didn't
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- Have to ride camels a great distance,
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- But we're on a journey nonetheless,
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- And i find oftentimes i'm disappointed.
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- You know, my expectations of following god
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- And the reality of that often leave me with some questions.
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- Well, the wisemen followed a star
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- And they ended up in a stable in a barn.
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- And yet they celebrated.
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- They found god's purposes for themselves.
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- I want to suggest you and i can do the same.
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- Don't give in to disappointment
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- In the midst of a holiday season
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- Because it doesn't align perfectly with your dreams.
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- Let's determine
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- That the purposes of god are emerging in the earth,
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- And we've got the privilege of being a part of it,
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- Even if the moment it feels like we're standing in a
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- Stable up to our knees and stuff that needs cleaned out.
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- God's moving in the earth, and we get to be a part of that.
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- And that's a reason to celebrate.
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- That's a reason for hope.
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- I'll be right back with your emails.
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- I'll be right back with your emails.
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- Thank you for spending a few minutes of your day with us.
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- Just a reminder, if you ever miss a live episode,
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- You can always go to aj. now.com.
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- There's a full archive of all the programs.
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- You can watch them at your leisure.
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- You can share them with a friend.
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- Start a conversation.
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- We'd love to be a part of it.
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- Your emails are always a highlight.
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- William in katy, texas wrote,
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- There are laws on the books
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- That would clean up the illegal problem
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- And crime in our cities,
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- But it's quite obvious that those who charge
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- Don't have the will to enforce them,
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- Whether they're conservative or liberal.
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- The state governors could, but they won't enforce the laws
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- And create a safer environment.
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- Our christian churches have been too silent
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- As a group on the subject, so not to offend,
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- Speaking the hard truth and enforcing the law.
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- How do we get there?
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- Well, i think it starts with intent.
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- I'm not a governor or the mayor of a city.
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- I'm just a citizen. i am a pastor.
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- You can start in the place
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- You are with the intent to submit yourself
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- To the discipline of the rule of law.
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- If we will do that, if we'll start submitting to god's laws.
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- Do the simple things.
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- Get your family together once a week at the table for a meal.
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- No devices.
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- Read your bible on a regular basis.
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- If we'll take those simple steps to start to
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- Put back in place.
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- Submitting to the law of god, i believe it'll
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- Bring good things to the entire nation.
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- It makes a difference.
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- Russ, from michigan said, once again, i can't
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- Thank you enough for all that you do to bring god's truth
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- To a really messed up world in this season we're in.
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- I would think rather than trying to put the world
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- To get the world with christ back in christmas,
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- I believe we'd be a whole lot better
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- If we were to put christ back in christians.
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- Russ, i couldn't agree more.
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- If those of us
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- That sit in the churches will start
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- To act like christ followers again,
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- The world will be a better place.
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- We've got to stop pointing to the windows and accusing others.
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- We have to decide to become the solution ourselves.
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- Thanks for the reminder.
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- Well, i'm alan jackson and i pray you have a wonderful
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- Evening.
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