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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: SCOTUS Decision | Allen Jackson Now | July 16, 2026
- Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm allen jackson.
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- One of the most
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- Consequential supreme court decisions in years has reignited
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- A debate over one of the
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- Most fundamental questions a nation can ask.
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- Who becomes an american citizen?
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- Well, the supreme court ruled that children
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- Born in the united states, even to parents who are here
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- Illegally or only temporarily, well, their citizens at birth.
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- President trump has called the decision
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- Absolutely insane, and announced that he'll ask the court
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- To reconsider.
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- At the same time, congressional republicans
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- Are exploring whether lawmakers can address
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- The issue through new legislation.
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- The trump administration is also expanding
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- Its crackdown on what is known as birth tourism.
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- It's a multimillion dollar industry built around
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- Bringing pregnant women to the united states
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- For the sole purpose of giving birth,
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- So their children automatically receive american citizenship.
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- Federal prosecutors uncovered
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- Sophisticated international networks,
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- Many serving clients from china, that charged families
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- Tens of thousands of dollars.
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- Coached women on how to deceive u.s.
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- Officials during visa interviews,
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- And even instructed them to fly into hawaii first
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- Because they believed customs inspections
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- There were less rigorous than those in the mainland.
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- Investigators say those same organizations
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- Helped clients overstay visas and launder millions of dollars.
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- Well, where does america go from here?
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- Is this simply about closing an abuse and immigration system,
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- Or is it something much bigger at stake?
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- If organized criminal networks have already found ways
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- To profit from it, what's to stop hostile foreign
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- Governments from exploiting the same system?
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- See, our nation is a unique experiment
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- In human civilization.
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- There's never been anything quite like it.
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- But that experiment came under attack
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- During the biden administration,
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- Where we witnessed
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- An intentional dismantling of boundaries and borders.
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- It was all wrapped in a great deal of language
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- That suggests an open border
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- Is the ultimate expression of compassion.
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- And unfortunately, too many churches picked up that mantra.
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- I don't think what we witnessed was compassion at all.
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- We can't live in complete defiance of the law
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- And imagine that will bring good things to us.
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- The changes that an open border has already made in
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- Our country are staggering.
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- Our health care system has fundamentally changed.
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- The emergency rooms don't provide the same function
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- They did a decade ago,
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- And that's changed primarily to accommodate
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- The tens of millions of people
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- Who are here without citizenship.
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- Now, there are disturbing reports
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- Coming to light, exposing a texas hospitals tactics
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- That started at the beginning of the biden administration.
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- Texas governor greg abbott has ordered
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- An investigation into michigan regional medical center
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- After it advertised on billboards in mexico
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- For birth packages in south texas.
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- These ads promoted childbirth services to pregnant
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- Foreign nationals near the us-mexico border.
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- The billboards also displayed
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- A telephone number beginning with 001.
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- That's the country code used to place
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- Calls to the united states from mexico.
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- The hospital admitted to being responsible
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- For the advertising campaign, which promoted deliveries
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- Starting at $3,950 for a natural birth
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- And $5,525 for a c-section.
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- And then directed viewers to a website, the website address.
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- It was literally half my baby in texas.
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- Dotcom.
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- Well,
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- That website's now been taken off line
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- After the launch of the investigation.
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- Governor abbott of texas wrote, american citizenship
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- Is not for sale.
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- We have a culture that wants to tell us what we determine
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- What's true, that no one can determine my truth,
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- That that's simply in a rational statement.
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- I'd like to remind you that anything that begins with
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- Illegal does not typically lead to a good outcome.
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- The lawlessness amongst us, the stealing, murder,
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- Slander, pride, the outward disobedience to god's design
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- Of family behaviors contrary to a biblical worldview.
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- They've become far too common, and the church,
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- For the most part, has been strangely silent.
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- It's as if we're not sure how to respond or what
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- The message should be.
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- Because at the end of the day, we don't want to be offensive.
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- We don't want to be labeled. we don't want to get canceled.
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- We don't want to step out.
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- We don't want our friends
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- To step away from us because of the ideas we express.
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- We'd much prefer to be labeled
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- As a person of grace and a person of mercy.
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- Well, i believe in the mercy and the grace of god.
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- But that's not the entire character of god.
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- We must determine to be champions of the truth,
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- No matter who we meet.
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- No matter how dark their story,
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- No matter how deep the pit they may have fallen into.
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- We can't commiserate with their sin.
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- It's not kindness to put your arm around them
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- And say it's a horrible thing, and then leave them in the pit.
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- That's not mercy.
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- That's passive hatred.
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- We have to teach people what the bible says.
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- And in conjunction with that,
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- We can teach them that pleasing god is important.
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- Lasting change begins with us.
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- We cannot abandon the places
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- We live to destructive influences.
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- As christ followers, we can't be silent
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- And stay out of the public square.
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- If our nation really is to ever regain strength,
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- It will be because the church has the courage
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- To bring our biblical worldview back into play.
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- Well, in a moment, we'll be joined
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- By the senior legal fellow at advancing american freedom.
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- Hans von spakovsky.
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- I'll be right back.
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- You may.
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- You may.
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- Well, tonight we're joined
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- By the senior legal fellow at advancing american freedom.
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- Hans von spakovsky, welcome to the show. hans
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- Alice, thanks for having me back.
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- Well, the supreme court has handed down multiple decisions
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- In june.
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- We'll cover several of them, but it seems to me at least that
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- The biggest one was the ruling on birthright citizenship.
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- It was a 6 to 3 decision, and they ruled against president
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- Trump's executive order that banned birthright citizens.
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- For those that were here.
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- It seems to me they got it wrong.
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- What's your perspective?
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- Although i think they did get it wrong.
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- You know, this was an opinion by chief
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- Justice roberts, joined by amy coney barrett and
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- The three liberals.
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- Yes. justice kavanaugh
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- Joined the judgment, but the difference was that,
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- Those other five justices said
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- That the constitution, the 14th amendment,
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- Specifies and requires birthright citizenship.
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- Kavanaugh said, no, that's not true.
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- It's required by federal immigration
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- Law, and therefore it could be changed by congress,
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- But that the president's executive order can't do that.
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- The three dissenters actually got it right.
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- In fact, justice thomas and justice alito,
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- They just completely devastated and took apart chief
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- Justice the chief justice's opinion, pointing out, frankly,
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- All the historical mistakes and errors he made.
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- And, looking at the 14th amendment, i have to tell you,
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- I think this is probably one of the worst mistakes
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- The court has made in its entire history.
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- Well,
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- You know, most of us are not aware
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- Of the inner workings of the supreme court.
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- Do the justices
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- Actually have conversations about these rulings
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- Before they present them publicly?
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- Well, they do,
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- But what they also do is they have a vote.
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- And then, for example,
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- Whoever's writing the majority circulates that draft
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- Opinion to the other justices so they can comment on it.
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- And usually the dissenting, justices do the same.
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- So everyone knows ahead of time,
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- What's going to be said in that written opinion.
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- And i've said that this, this was a huge mistake.
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- I mean, trump the trump administration won
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- A significant number of other cases and decisions
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- That came out.
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- But unfortunately,
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- This one almost eclipses those other victories.
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- Well, texas representative brandon gill had an opinion
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- On the ruling.
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- Listen to what he had to say.
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- Becoming an american citizen means
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- Not only that you have
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- Constitutional liberties, that you have legal
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- And economic protections
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- And social opportunities that nobody else in the world has.
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- But it also means that you are a part of the american body
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- Politic, that you have the rights and responsibilities
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- That come with being an american citizen,
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- Meaning you can influence
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- Our system of government, our rule of law,
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- How this country functions.
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- And that's not something
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- That we just simply hand out to our geopolitical adversaries.
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- You know, i've always imagined that citizenship gave me
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- Rights to be on the board of directors for america,
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- And it feels like this ruling cheapens our citizenship.
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- Can it truly be rectified with a law from congress,
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- Or do we have to amend the constitution?
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- Well, the best way would be an amendment,
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- Because we had, five justices say this is required
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- By the four to the ban.
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- But but, alan, you and i both know,
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- The chances of getting a constitutional amendment
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- Through are pretty much nil.
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- Not only would all the democrats in congress oppose it,
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- But every blue state would oppose it, too.
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- The, the problem with a,
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- A statute amending the current federal law
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- Is that while justice kavanaugh says that can be done,
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- And i'm sure the three dissenters would agree
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- With that, that's only four justices.
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- You ain't the first one to say that a change of the law
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- Is now valid.
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- The only way this is going to be changed,
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- I think, realistically, is if there is a change
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- In at least one of the justices who is currently on the court,
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- Who voted the wrong way on this case,
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- And will that happen any time in the future?
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- I don't know.
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- That's always unpredictable,
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- But that's about the only way this is going to get fixed.
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- Well, president trump said
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- He was going to ask the court to reconsider the case.
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- There's not much precedent for that.
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- Do you think that has any chance at all?
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- No i don't.
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- The other thing that the president can do
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- And should do is use his current power under the,
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- The federal immigration law to make it as difficult
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- As possible for aliens in this country to have babies.
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- I mean, for example,
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- Remember, we issue with a lot of student visas
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- To foreigners who come to our colleges and universities.
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- I think they ought to change that.
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- And put it a rule that says one, you can't get a student visa
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- If you're pregnant when you're coming to the united states.
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- And second,
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- If you get pregnant once
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- You're in the united states, that's grounds for immediate
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- Cancellation of your student visa and removal from the u.s.
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- It's things like that
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- That i think the president can do to try to counter this.
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- Well, we need to take a short break.
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- Can you stay with us for another segment?
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- Happy to do so.
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- If you've got your phone nearby, you can log on to aj now.com
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- And send me an email.
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- We'd like to hear your thoughts on this topic.
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- I'll be right back.
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- I'll be right back.
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- We're back now
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- With hans von spakovsky from advancing american freedom.
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- Well, there were other rulings involving immigration
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- That the supreme court seemed to get right.
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- Temporary protected status and asylum claims
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- Showing that at least six of the justices
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- Seem to be comfortable with executive authority.
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- That seemed to be affirming for us, doesn't it?
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- Yeah, it was, although actually those were really simple cases.
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- And unfortunately
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- They were examples of a rogue federal district court
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- Judges, really renegade judges, almost all biden appointees
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- Who had issued injunctions in violation of the law
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- Preventing the president from doing what i was doing.
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- The tps one is a typical example that,
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- You know, there's a federal law
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- That says that a that a president,
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- Through the secretary of homeland security can provide
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- Temporary protected status to aliens.
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- That makes them temporarily lawful in the u.s.
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- And a president can do that when, for example,
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- Their home country
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- Is hit by a natural disaster like an earthquake.
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- That's why haitians were granted tps back in 2010
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- By barack obama.
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- But what the supreme court
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- Pointed out when they threw out the injunctions
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- Against the end of tps for haitians and others, is that
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- The law, provided the president of this power says
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- No court shall have jurisdiction
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- To review the granting of tps or the termination of tps.
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- So all these judges were basically ignoring that law
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- When they got involved in this.
- 00:13:55.728 --> 00:13:58.398
- You mentioned these rogue federal judges.
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- What's the remedy for these judges
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- That take the initiative in creating law
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- When they don't happen
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- To like the ideology of the current president?
- 00:14:07.140 --> 00:14:10.043
- Well, let me tell you, that's a real problem.
- 00:14:10.910 --> 00:14:12.812
- And all federal judges, as you well know,
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- Because of our constitution, have lifetime appointments.
- 00:14:15.682 --> 00:14:18.284
- The only way that are removed is through impeachment.
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- This is an area that i think the chief justice,
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- John roberts, has really been neglectful of.
- 00:14:25.291 --> 00:14:29.062
- He needs to get involved in this.
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- And when judges,
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- Violate federal laws, as was done in this case,
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- They should have had very harsh words
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- For the lower courts, violating the law.
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- And frankly, if a judge continues to do that,
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- There are disciplinary proceedings
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- Under the judicial code of conduct that could be initiated
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- Against them.
- 00:14:55.521 --> 00:14:56.522
- And i think, unfortunately, the chief justice
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- Has been neglectful of this.
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- In fact, he's been critical
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- Of anyone who has raised concerns
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- About these lower court judges.
- 00:15:05.064 --> 00:15:07.300
- Well, the slaughter ruling
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- Hasn't received near
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- As much coverage,
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- But it does have a significant impact on executive authority.
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- Can you tell us
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- A bit more about that ruling and why it's so important?
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- Yeah, this was a very interesting case.
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- When when trump came in, he fired one of the commissioners
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- That helps run the federal trade commission, rebekah slaughter.
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- The federal trade commission
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- Is one of the so-called independent
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- Federal agencies, set up by congress.
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- And when congress did that,
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- They set up rules that said the president can't fire
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- A confirmed head of one of these commissions
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- Unless he has.
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- Cause, you know, they've they've,
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- Violated the public trust.
- 00:15:48.574 --> 00:15:50.009
- They've committed malfeasance.
- 00:15:50.009 --> 00:15:51.611
- Well, the president challenge that because he pointed out
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- That these independent agencies carry out executive
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- Branch functions.
- 00:15:59.952 --> 00:16:01.487
- You know, the ftc can sue you and find you.
- 00:16:01.487 --> 00:16:05.158
- That's a typical executive branch function.
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- That's what the department of justice does.
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- And he said
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- That's unconstitutional because constitutionally, i'm
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- The head of the executive branch.
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- And congress, while it can set up an agency like this,
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- That's part of the executive branch.
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- They can't limit
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- My supervisory authority or the ability to fire.
- 00:16:22.442 --> 00:16:25.578
- And the supreme court agreed, and in fact,
- 00:16:25.578 --> 00:16:29.282
- Overturned a 1935 precedent in which the supremes back
- 00:16:29.282 --> 00:16:35.021
- Then had said, oh, no, no, no, congress can do that.
- 00:16:35.021 --> 00:16:38.357
- The irony of this, alan, is that that case back in 1935
- 00:16:38.357 --> 00:16:44.497
- Involved the ftc, the federal trade commission,
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- When it had first been organized as a federal agency.
- 00:16:47.467 --> 00:16:51.604
- Well, we're witnessing something
- 00:16:52.238 --> 00:16:53.372
- I never thought i would see in america.
- 00:16:53.372 --> 00:16:55.374
- The platform of the democrats, socialists of america
- 00:16:55.374 --> 00:16:58.511
- Has come out this week.
- 00:16:58.511 --> 00:16:59.912
- It's pretty shocking what they're proposing.
- 00:16:59.912 --> 00:17:02.181
- Things like eliminating the u.s.
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- Senate, granting amnesty
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- To all illegal aliens, defunding the department of war.
- 00:17:05.151 --> 00:17:08.287
- And on it goes.
- 00:17:08.654 --> 00:17:10.289
- It seems to be a direct affront to the us constitution.
- 00:17:10.289 --> 00:17:14.227
- What are your thoughts on what the proposed.
- 00:17:14.227 --> 00:17:17.530
- Oh, it is they want to turn us into
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- Communist china or the old soviet union.
- 00:17:19.765 --> 00:17:22.902
- That would be the result
- 00:17:22.902 --> 00:17:24.871
- Of all the things that they are proposing.
- 00:17:24.871 --> 00:17:26.906
- We would go from a democratic republic to, an authoritarian
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- Dictatorship to whoever is, in the white house.
- 00:17:32.545 --> 00:17:36.315
- That would be the result of that platform
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- And the not just, complete loss of our freedom and liberties.
- 00:17:39.919 --> 00:17:45.091
- But it would be an economic disaster for the united states
- 00:17:45.091 --> 00:17:49.529
- With our quality of living dropping precipitously.
- 00:17:49.529 --> 00:17:52.665
- Well, they have dozens and dozens of
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- Candidates on the ballot this fall.
- 00:17:55.401 --> 00:17:57.703
- Do you think the american people are awake
- 00:17:57.703 --> 00:17:59.305
- Enough, or is the press willing to tell the truth,
- 00:17:59.305 --> 00:18:02.408
- Or is this going to continue to grow?
- 00:18:02.408 --> 00:18:04.777
- Right now, i think it's going to continue to grow.
- 00:18:05.778 --> 00:18:09.081
- Unfortunately, we have a lot of young people
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- Who, frankly, have been brainwashed.
- 00:18:11.918 --> 00:18:14.187
- Because while socialists
- 00:18:14.187 --> 00:18:15.988
- And the socialist boxes are trying to take over,
- 00:18:15.988 --> 00:18:19.825
- The big cities today, they had already taken over
- 00:18:19.825 --> 00:18:22.628
- Our academic institutions, particularly the ivy leagues,
- 00:18:22.628 --> 00:18:26.399
- And they have brainwashed a lot of kids
- 00:18:26.399 --> 00:18:29.068
- Today into thinking that this would be a good idea.
- 00:18:29.068 --> 00:18:32.572
- So this is this is a fight,
- 00:18:32.572 --> 00:18:36.242
- That's going to continue for quite a while.
- 00:18:36.242 --> 00:18:39.312
- Well, one last question.
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- You recently wrote an article
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- Discussing the original list for the bill of rights
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- That james madison submitted for review. right.
- 00:18:43.816 --> 00:18:46.652
- It was it.
- 00:18:46.652 --> 00:18:47.720
- Ultimately, all of them were ultimately included.
- 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:49.689
- Can you tell us a bit more about that
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- And how it might have changed our history?
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- Yeah.
- 00:18:54.093 --> 00:18:55.194
- You know, the the whole point of the slaughter case
- 00:18:55.194 --> 00:18:57.463
- You were just talking about was congress basically
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- Interfering with the president's power of the executive branch?
- 00:19:00.766 --> 00:19:04.937
- James madison proposed an amendment,
- 00:19:04.937 --> 00:19:08.407
- As part of the bill of rights that never got approved.
- 00:19:08.407 --> 00:19:11.510
- That very specifically said,
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- The legislative branch can only do legislative things,
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- And it can't intervene
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- Or interfere with the judiciary or the presidency.
- 00:19:19.385 --> 00:19:22.622
- And it had the same
- 00:19:22.622 --> 00:19:24.223
- Similar, phrase for each of the other branches.
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- In other words,
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- They had to stay within the boundaries
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- Of the language of their, branches that have been set up
- 00:19:31.030 --> 00:19:35.234
- By the constitution, that might have prevented
- 00:19:35.234 --> 00:19:38.771
- The kind of issues we've been dealing with
- 00:19:38.771 --> 00:19:40.773
- For the past
- 00:19:40.773 --> 00:19:41.907
- Hundred years, with all these administrative agencies
- 00:19:41.907 --> 00:19:45.378
- Being set up to interfere with our rights and liberties.
- 00:19:45.378 --> 00:19:49.081
- Well, hans, thank you for your time today.
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- Your insight, as always, has been very helpful.
- 00:19:51.717 --> 00:19:55.054
- Thanks for having me.
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- We'll be back in just a moment.
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- Do. you.
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- Do. you.
- 00:20:07.001 --> 00:20:12.406
- Thank you for taking the time to share your emails.
- 00:20:13.473 --> 00:20:15.542
- Your thoughts and opinions are always of interest.
- 00:20:15.542 --> 00:20:18.111
- Michael b from georgia said, i hear the democratic socialist
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- Party and numerous islamist
- 00:20:21.448 --> 00:20:22.983
- Imams and muslim elected officials
- 00:20:22.983 --> 00:20:25.352
- And those running for office in the u.s.
- 00:20:25.352 --> 00:20:26.953
- Say that their aim is to.
- 00:20:26.953 --> 00:20:28.588
- And he lists several things replace the senate.
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- Have the house of representatives select
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- The president, members of the supreme court,
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- Replace the entire constitution.
- 00:20:33.994 --> 00:20:36.163
- You're absolutely right, michael.
- 00:20:36.163 --> 00:20:37.197
- They published their platform this week.
- 00:20:37.197 --> 00:20:38.899
- They made it public, and they've included all of those things.
- 00:20:38.899 --> 00:20:42.569
- Michael went on to say, when our elected officials
- 00:20:42.569 --> 00:20:44.271
- Took the oath of office, which says, i do solemnly swear
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- Or affirm that i'll support and defend
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- The constitution of the united states
- 00:20:48.942 --> 00:20:51.244
- Against all enemies, foreign and domestic
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- And that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.
- 00:20:53.347 --> 00:20:56.283
- Where did they plan on doing that?
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- Those publicly
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- Threatening our constitution are here
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- And being allowed to run for office.
- 00:21:00.921 --> 00:21:03.290
- Do we need a new committee on un-american activities
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- In a way
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- To force our leaders to adhere to the oath
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- They took with their hand on the bible?
- 00:21:08.562 --> 00:21:11.098
- Well, i suppose that's what approach.
- 00:21:11.098 --> 00:21:12.332
- But i think it's simpler and more direct
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- To simply not elect people
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- That are advocating for unconstitutional platforms.
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- If we put them in office, we're handing them
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- The power to implement those ideas.
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- So we've got to look at where those ideas are being
- 00:21:24.044 --> 00:21:28.315
- Encouraged and cultivated, and see if we can change it
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- At that level.
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- Roslyn, from connecticut, said, is capitalism
- 00:21:32.986 --> 00:21:35.222
- Working for the average person?
- 00:21:35.222 --> 00:21:37.124
- Seems like it is working only for the rich.
- 00:21:37.124 --> 00:21:39.092
- The rich are getting richer,
- 00:21:39.092 --> 00:21:40.127
- And the average age for a new homebuyer is 40.
- 00:21:40.127 --> 00:21:43.296
- Well, roslyn, there's some truth to what you're saying.
- 00:21:43.296 --> 00:21:45.232
- The economy in recent years has been challenging
- 00:21:45.232 --> 00:21:48.368
- The standard of living for all of us
- 00:21:48.368 --> 00:21:49.936
- Is actually much better than it was 50 years ago.
- 00:21:49.936 --> 00:21:52.572
- But there have been a series of changes
- 00:21:52.572 --> 00:21:54.408
- That are impacting how
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- We see the world and how we engage with it.
- 00:21:55.675 --> 00:21:57.944
- The failure of our universities to prepare
- 00:21:58.812 --> 00:22:00.580
- The students for real jobs is a very significant challenge.
- 00:22:00.580 --> 00:22:04.151
- The debt with which they're coming out of school
- 00:22:04.151 --> 00:22:06.052
- With degrees that aren't helpful is a real problem.
- 00:22:06.052 --> 00:22:09.189
- Attitudes towards work that don't make it something
- 00:22:09.189 --> 00:22:12.159
- That we truly want to engage in.
- 00:22:12.159 --> 00:22:13.894
- All of those things collectively,
- 00:22:13.894 --> 00:22:15.996
- Are making it more difficult to reach the american dream.
- 00:22:15.996 --> 00:22:18.532
- We still have greater opportunities in this nation
- 00:22:18.532 --> 00:22:20.767
- That anywhere in the world, but we have work to do.
- 00:22:20.767 --> 00:22:24.304
- I do believe god is moving in the earth.
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- Let's decide to be a part.
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- Thank you for spending some time with us.
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- God bless and good night to.
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