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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Shutdown Showdown | October 20, 2025

Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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I'm alan jackson.
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If a picture is worth a thousand words,
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Then this is all we need to say
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About the political times we're in.
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First, a rare photo from cairo, egypt 30 world leaders
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Demonstrating their support
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For president trump's peace plan for the mideast versus this,
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The democratic leader in the u.s.
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Senate,
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He's trying to defend
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What's been called the schumer shutdown, claiming
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That his leverage gets stronger every day.
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The government shutdown goes on
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Even while people are not working and not getting paid.
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So while president trump was signing a plan to stop a war.
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The senate democratic leader was taking a one man victory lap
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For shutting down the us government.
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Well, our guest tonight
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Is the veteran political editor, bob cusack.
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Welcome back, bob.
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Thanks for having me, allen.
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The gap between chuck schumer and president trump is as wide
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As the eye can see.
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The senate republican leader, john
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Thune, had this to say about why it's happening.
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And chuck schumer saying this is getting better for us
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Every day.
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That's not somebody who wants to see this get resolved.
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And they are pandering
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To the left
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Wing special interest groups out there who have demanded this
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And demanded this showdown
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With the president of the united states.
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Bob, it's hard to imagine why anyone would think
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A shutdown is a winning strategy.
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Do you agree?
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Yeah, i would.
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I mean, i've covered
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A lot of shutdowns, but the way schumer is handling
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This one is a bit head scratching
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Because democrats, as republicans have noted,
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Have supported this type of bill,
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A so-called clean bill, many times, 13 times before.
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But democrats want their health care provisions in there.
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And, of course, republicans want their,
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Certain things that they want in the bill.
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But they're saying, no, we just let's fund the government.
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And this is interesting.
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I mean, this is the democrats are the party of government, and
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And the government is going to be shut down, i think, for,
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For quite some time.
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I think it could go, to halloween or maybe thanksgiving.
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This could be the longest one ever.
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As speaker johnson has said, i agree with him.
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Or cairo's a long way from washington,
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But do you think the leadership that the president has shown
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Internationally will eventually have an effect on
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At least some of the democrats
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Who are holding up the funding bill?
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Possibly.
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I mean, democrats thought that they were going to be able
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To pressure trump into folding,
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And in, in prior shutdown.
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Some of that strategy has worked.
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It's not going to work here.
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Trump is flying high, after his peace deal in the middle east.
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And, certainly some democrats, including,
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Senator fetterman from pennsylvania,
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Have sided with, republicans
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On this that don't agree with their leadership.
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You know, even without the additional health care spending,
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The latest budget still adds $2 trillion
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To a national debt that's closing on $38 trillion.
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The committee continues to make cuts,
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And the president says there will be more cuts.
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But is there anything on the table
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That will not just slow the spending,
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But help us genuinely shrink the debt?
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I don't think, i don't hold your breath.
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Alan, i mean, when you think about
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Compromises between the two parties
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Over the last couple decades, 25 years, what happens?
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One side gets what it wants
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And the other side get what it wants.
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And what happens is the debt goes up, as you mentioned.
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We're going to soon be headed for 40 trillion.
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So unless congress gets serious,
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And deals with entitlement programs
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Like medicare and medicaid and social security, medicare
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And social security headed for bankruptcy,
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We're going to have a big debt problem.
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But it's not going to be tackled anytime soon.
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You know, there was a time and it's been a season
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When congress actually worked together to solve problems.
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Do you have any hope that we're going
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To return to that kind of a functional approach
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To congressional activity?
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I don't i don't think so.
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It's just a basically a game of shirts and skins right now.
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And i
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Don't think
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The parties are in a situation
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Where they can actually work together,
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Because it's become so polarizing.
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And you're
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Right, ten, 15 years ago, it was a different situation.
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You know, as usual, it's really hard
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To sort the truth from the spin on the shutdown.
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But isn't the heart of it the fact that the democrats
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Are trying to extend government
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Health care at the higher limits
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That were put in place for the covid crisis
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And for some additional health
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Care for people who are here illegally.
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Well, without a doubt, it's a complicated issue.
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And definitely subsidies went up during covid.
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Democrats say, hey,
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No, we're not paying for money for for illegal immigrants.
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But in their proposal, they're counterproposal to republicans.
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They didn't explicitly say that.
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And that's what republicans have said.
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Well,
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If you weren't going to put the money in there
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For that reason, then why didn't you say explicitly?
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And it also, when you're dealing with emergency treatment,
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Experts have said, yes,
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There would be some money for illegal immigrants
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In there for health care.
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Well, let's stay on the topic of people who are here illegally.
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The white house says that there have been
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A record number of arrests.
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It's up 250%.
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And that crime is down about 20%
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Have been cleaned up. washington
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And now working on memphis, los angeles and chicago.
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The president has raised
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The idea of moving it on san francisco next.
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You would think that keeping people safe
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Would be a winning agenda in any political race.
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But schumer and others continue to push back.
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Do you see any political benefit for the democrats
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As they fight the plans for a safe america?
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Not in the big picture.
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I don't, and it's interesting.
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Chuck schumer
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Has this fictional couple from long island
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That he's written about in his book,
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And he acknowledged, after the 2024 election,
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That that fictional couple that's kind of an independent
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Minded couple voted for trump y because of crime.
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This is what schumer said.
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So, this is a winning issue for republicans.
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And i think democrats who are going to,
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Go after trump on this.
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I think it's a losing issue for them.
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And that's why the white house has been so aggressive on it.
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They're it's confusing to me.
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I'm certainly an outsider when it comes to dc.
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But with the last election results
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And the move towards the center,
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It seems the democrats have moved even further left.
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You know, are they just ignoring the trend from the public?
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What is driving that shift?
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Allen, i've been baffled.
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You know, we've seen both parties after elections
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When they lose and both parties have lost big time, wave
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Elections, over the last few decades.
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What they do is they analyze why they lost.
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I haven't seen a lot of, introspection
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From democrats of why they lost the 2024 election.
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I keep hearing from,
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Kamala harris and other democrats
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Like nancy pelosi saying, well, we only
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We only
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We picked up
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One seat in the house, but they didn't win the house
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And they didn't win the presidency.
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And they haven't come up with a winning strategy yet.
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They're still flailing.
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And it's been a while since trump won a second term.
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It is, but there's a lot more to discuss.
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Can you stay for another segment?
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Absolutely.
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All right.
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Well, if you want to jump in on this conversation
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With bob cusack, you can log on to aj now.com.
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Send me an email.
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We can use your ideas for our future shows.
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I'll be right back.
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I'll be right back.
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We're back
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Now with the veteran political editor, bob cusack.
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I'd like to ask about a couple of off year races, beginning
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With the one in your state of virginia.
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The democrats have been setback with the public release
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Of some very damaging text from their candidate
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That said he wanted to put two bullets
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In the head of his opponent.
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I know the text were from three years ago,
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But he hasn't dropped out of the race.
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What does the race look like now?
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With just a few weeks to go?
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It's a close race.
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It's closer than i expected.
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And, as you mentioned, the jones, controversy is
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Is really hurting abigail spanberger, who is
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Who is a democrat in the race.
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She is winning right now.
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And virginia has gotten more blue over the years.
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Now, remember, like virginia and new jersey,
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I know we'll talk about new jersey a little bit.
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Democrats have to win both of these.
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These are blue states for the most part.
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New jersey has gone a little more red, but it's still blue.
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And democrats have to sweep these races.
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But at the same time, in virginia,
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You got to watch this race because spanberger has not,
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Really distanced herself, i think effectively from the jay
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Jones controversy. and he's running for office.
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He's in a tight race.
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And and he's dragging her down
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Right now that there's no doubt about it.
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Well, it seems like with some
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Of the very public expressions of violence we've seen,
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That kind of rhetoric would just not be tolerated.
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But they seem to be managing
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To sweep that under the rug for the most part.
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Yeah, that's another issue where i just don't understand
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Why democrats and some do.
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But but why can't all of them say violence is not right?
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And violence is something
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That we condemn all the time.
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And what jay jones was texting was,
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Was violence and the threat of violence.
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And that has,
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Really dominated politics and how i think people have
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Soured on politics and politics in recent years
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Because it's become more violent.
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And that's extremely unfortunate,
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Has led to a lot of tragedies,
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Including the assassination of charlie kirk.
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Well, the new york mayor's
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Race has tightened since we last spoke.
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The current mayor dropped out.
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Now andrew cuomo has pulled
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Closer to his socialist communist opponent.
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Zoran mamdani has found himself getting pressed on his negative
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Comments about the mideast peace plan.
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He said it offers only a glimmer of hope,
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But that we've watched our tax dollars fund genocide.
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Even cnn has tried to press him on giving president trump
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Some credit. listen to their comment.
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So at what point would you decide
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That he does deserve credit for it if the genocide ends?
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And i think that's something worthy to be praised.
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And if the hostages are returned,
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Those things together have to be done in tandem.
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You know, he's getting
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Tougher questions, but there are still two others in the race.
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Cuomo and curtis sliwa.
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So i guess
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Unless one of them drops out,
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The anti-socialist vote will be split.
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Do you think new york city will eventually have a socialist
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In charge?
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Probably.
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Allen and mamdani is, he's leading in the race,
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As you mentioned.
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The other two candidates, cuomo and steve, are dividing
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The anti-socialist vote.
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This is a really a win win for republicans.
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If if mamdani somehow loses his lead, while republicans
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Can say, well, democrats at least came to their senses,
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If, danny wins,
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That's going to be the story of the 2025 election.
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Is that,
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They're going to say he's the face of the democratic party
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Now, and he's a socialist.
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And that i mean, there are a number of,
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Prominent, politicians that as we speak,
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Chuck schumer is still not, endorsed, him. why?
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Because he doesn't
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He wants to distance himself from the socialists.
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So this is really dividing the democratic party.
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And republicans are, are enjoying, that division.
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It baffles me.
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What's the mindset of new yorkers?
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I mean, giving serious consideration
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To electing someone
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That has no life experience
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To lead the largest city in america?
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That's confusing to me.
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It is.
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I mean, cuomo has some baggage.
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There's no doubt about it.
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Cuomo made a big mistake, alan.
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He just thought he was going to glide, to the victory,
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And he was not out there shaking hands.
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He's doing that now as an independent.
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But he should have been doing that in the democratic party.
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He just thought he was going to win.
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And new york city,
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Especially parts, certain boroughs of new york city,
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Are, are very, very liberal and obviously
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Some of them are socialists.
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And they want to see this guy win.
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So this is a base election only.
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Usually people
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Who vote in these type of elections are hard core.
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And that's usually the extreme voters.
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And in new york that's extreme left.
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So madani that's why he's winning in the polls right now.
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Well, the new jersey governor's race is getting closer.
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The blue state voters are apparently having
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Second thoughts about the democratic candidate,
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Mikey sherrill, after a number of
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Questionable issues about her time
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At the naval academy have surfaced.
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Issues that she hadn't cleared up publicly.
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Is the state getting purple enough
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Where the republicans could take new jersey?
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Well, one of the most surprising results of the 2024
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Presidential election was that trump
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Only lost by a handful of votes in new jersey.
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He's always eyed a win in new york.
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That was not going to happen.
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And he's talked about winning jersey.
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He almost won new jersey.
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So it's getting certainly more purple.
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And as you mentioned, there are some controversies
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With sheryl taxes
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A big issue in new jersey as they've gone up over the years.
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She's also made a lot of money as a member of congress.
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Had to pay a fine, relatively small fine, for,
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A law that prevents, insider trading.
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And she's dodged some questions about how much money
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She's made.
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As a member of congress.
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Over the last several years.
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And that has hurt her.
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And that's why i think this is if you're looking for an upset
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In new jersey is more likely, the republican wins than
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In virginia.
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But again,
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If democrats don't win both of these races,
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It is a devastating night for democrats.
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Well, if we
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Will look down the road a bit,
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The midterms are just about a year away.
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But while the president is on a roll right now,
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I wonder if the voters will remember that next november
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When they're only voting for house and senate members
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And not the president?
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What do you think?
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Yeah, it's a problem that the white house
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And the president have to deal with.
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He lost the house, in 2018, in his first term.
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And it does have an effect
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On when you don't have trump on the ballot,
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When you have trump on the ballot, he usually wins.
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So this is going to be a challenge.
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It's going to come down a lot to what the courts say.
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And these redistricting fights that both parties are engaged
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Right now.
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I think the senate is likely to stay in republican hands.
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I would i would bet on that.
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The house is a toss up.
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That could go either way.
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And again, if democrats don't win the house
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Based upon historical trends, it's a rough night for them.
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They should pick up at, if you look at the party
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Not in power of the white house, they should pick up, 20.
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Maybe 24 seats.
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All they need is a handful of seats.
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So if they don't get it,
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There could be some changes in democratic leadership.
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I think we all remember the line.
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It's about the economy, stupid.
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Do you think there will be
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Enough economic momentum to carry the republicans to hold?
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I love that question.
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And the white house has said there are a lot of people.
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And you look at polls,
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They're not satisfied inflation is still there.
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But the white house says 2026 is going to be a banner year
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For the economy.
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So, they want to make sure
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That they're doing the things, whether it's deregulation,
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Or certainly lowering interest rates with president
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Trump has certainly
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Pressured, jay powell at the federal reserve,
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To lower interest rates.
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They're saying the economy's going to get better.
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And i think that's going to be the one to watch
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Where we're going to be.
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Where is the economy in one year from now?
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Remember, trump just got started.
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So that's what the white house says.
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We just got started. give us a little more time.
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Well, bob cusack, thank you for your time again today.
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We all benefit from your inside washington view.
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Thanks, i appreciate it.
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And in a moment, the hope that exists well beyond
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The beltway.
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I'll be right back.
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I'll be right back.
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You know,
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While democrats insist on spending more than $1
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Trillion of your money to expand health care coverage,
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Including money for people who are here illegally,
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There was a real concern
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That our military community might not get paid.
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Well, i'm grateful that the trump administration
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Intervened and reshuffled some pentagon funds in order
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To provide a temporary reprieve for active duty troops.
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They didn't have to miss their first paychecks as a result.
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Well, unfortunately, we as christ followers,
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We have some complicity with this out-of-control
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Spending that has taken place over recent years and decades.
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We didn't pay enough attention to all the foolish things
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That our taxpayer money was being allocated toward.
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Recently, house speaker mike johnson called out
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Some of these line items,
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Listing a few demands the democrats are insisting on
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In order to win the government shutdown.
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These include 3.9 million of your hard earned tax dollars
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For lgbtq plus democracy grants in the western balkans,
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2 million on organizing for feminist
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Democratic principles in africa, 24.6 million
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To climate resilience in honduras.
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I'm grateful that speaker johnson
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Has exposed these expenditures,
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But i caution you
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Not to look to the politicians to be the agents of change.
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Let's just add value to what we represent in the culture.
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Be informed.
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Be engaged. speak up.
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Use your voice. pray.
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We are god's ambassadors in the world.
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So let's be bright lights in the darkness
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And have the courage to stand up for biblical values.
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If we'll do that, i assure you there will be more reasons
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For hope than despair.
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We'll be back in just a moment
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With your emails.
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With your emails.
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Just a quick reminder.
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If you miss a live broadcast, you can always go to aj.
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Now.com.
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There's a full archive of our programs there.
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You can watch them at your leisure
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Choose your favorite and share it with somebody else.
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Thank you for your emails.
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They're always a highlight.
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Jonathan wrote
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Thank you for standing firm on the word
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And traditional values in america.
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I love to watch.
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Well, jonathan, i appreciate it.
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Our biblical worldview, our judeo-christian values
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Have brought strength to our nation,
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And it's going to take courage
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To live them out in this current climate.
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But it is worthwhile.
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A viewer on youtube noted the current shutdown is nothing
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More than partizan gamesmanship and the blame game.
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The democrats want to continue funding things
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That should not be funded.
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The republicans are going to use this shutdown
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To reduce the size of government.
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The republicans could have prevented this
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By changing the vote threshold to a simple majority,
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Like they did during the trump nominee's confirmation vote,
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To avoid obstruction by the debates.
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Scratch.
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Change the vote threshold now.
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You know, i'm not sure about the vote
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Threshold, but changing the words keeps me focused.
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Just now learned to spell republican or democrat,
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And you've given me a whole new set of vocabulary words.
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But thank you.
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Aubrey from texas wrote.
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Why did it appear the major tv news channels
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Were showing the release of palestinian prisoners
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Instead of the hostages from hamas?
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Well, i think there's probably several components to that.
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There's a reluctance to allow president
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Trump to take a victory lap.
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They would rather try to remind us
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That there was a genocide they've been promoting,
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And not celebrate the release of people
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Who have been brutally held for more than two years
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In tunnels beneath gaza.
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It's been fashionable and chic for a bit
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To be anti-semitic, even in mainstream format.
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It's unfortunate,
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But i think in spite of all of that,
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We can all be celebrating the release
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Of those hostages, their return to their families,
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The joyful sights of those emotional reunions.
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God is moving in the earth, and we've had front row
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Seats to be witnesses to that this week.
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It should bring all of us a note of hope.
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God's watching over us,
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And he'll bring victories
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In the face of horrible expressions of evil.
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Thank you for spending a few minutes with us,
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And i pray you have a good evening.
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Allen Jackson: Shutdown Showdown

October 20, 2025 | 21:37

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