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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Spiritual Heritage | Allen Jackson Now | January 16, 2026
- My guest today is pastor rob mccoy.
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- You know him from a variety of ways and roles.
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- Perhaps most prominently
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- For the last few years as charlie kirk's pastor.
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- I had the privilege.
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- He visited our church, and we got to sit down
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- On a sunday morning and have a conversation.
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- And that's what i want to share with you.
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- It encouraged me, challenged me,
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- And it reminds me that each of us
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- Has to take our place with the truth, if we will do that.
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- I'm quite confident that the head of the church,
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- And that would be jesus, if you've forgotten,
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- Is overseeing
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- This initiative in a way
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- That will cause the kingdom of god to be extended.
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- It's an honor to welcome pastor mccoy to the church.
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- I think you'll enjoy the conversation.
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- I want to take a few minutes.
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- You know, there's some craziness
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- If you just watch the news and follow
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- The kind of the normal channels.
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- I think they're very anxious to pronounce the church dead.
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- Or at least that we're on life support.
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- And they've called hospice.
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- And there's some evidence of clearly obvious
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- Of some fractures.
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- But i'm of the opinion
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- That the church is flourishing in the earth.
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- The jesus is the head of the church.
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- The last directive i saw he gave was that
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- He said he would
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- Build his church and he wouldn't stop it,
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- And he sent us into all the world
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- With the message and the help of the holy spirit.
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- So we're the 21st century edition of all of that stuff.
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- So i'm curious, you live on the other coast.
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- You got a little different window into this.
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- I'm in the midst of hillbilly world,
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- And you're just in the midst of craziness.
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- Thousand oaks is just inland from malibu.
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- Exactly.
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- Such tough duty.
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- So tell me what you see god doing in the church.
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- I'll be anxious to hear your perspective.
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- Well, i'm in agreement with you.
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- And i believe that there is a revival occurring.
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- I was working with david barton and,
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- George barna, and, you know, you look at some of the news
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- Articles.
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- Major universities across the united states.
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- University of florida, university
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- Of arkansas, purdue, ohio state,
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- Thousands and thousands of students
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- Coming to christ and coming out for events.
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- And it's just remarkable what's occurring.
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- In addition,
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- There's there's been a 50% increase in bible sales.
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- We've also watched now
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- That 18 to 30 year olds, which was charlie's sweet spot.
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- These y and z generation, they now encompass and
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- Have become the largest segment of the church in america.
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- There's there's an awakening with young people.
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- And then
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- Finally, you know, there's been ten revivals in america, and
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- And all of them had an awakening attached to it up until 1870.
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- And that was d.l. moody.
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- And then following that,
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- Every awake
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- Or every revival hasn't led to an awakening,
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- Which means the church now changes culture.
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- So we had the jesus movement with calvary chapels,
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- And it was during the sexual revolution and nothing changed.
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- It didn't change culture.
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- I mean, people came to christ, but we didn't change culture.
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- And this is a different one
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- Because charlie has discipled these young people
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- And he's taught them in areas to contend for culture.
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- And now that they've
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- They're coming to the lord, they're the ones driving this.
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- It's it's,
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- The largest conservative movement
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- In american history for this age group.
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- And they're going to
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- That's an imprint of a chick to a mother hen.
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- They're going to vote
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- Conservative the rest of their life.
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- So this this is an awakening, and it's exciting.
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- Amen.
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- You brought up a point
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- That's been a talking point for us for a while.
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- I believe the church
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- Is intended to shape culture, not be shaped by it.
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- And we haven't done that in every generation that we can.
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- Like we can point out, many of us
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- Our lifetimes and we've seen the church concede the culture.
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- But it does seem to me there's a shift.
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- So what are we looking for? how do we recognize that?
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- What are you anticipating
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- The shift?
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- To me at least, what i've witnessed is prior to 1870,
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- If there was an issue that, that the citizens of your community
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- Were dealing with,
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- It would be a topic of a sermon that following sunday,
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- They would say,
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- What does the bible have to say on immigration?
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- And the pastor
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- Would give a lengthy sermon. you can see
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- These are all archived on the eastern seaboard.
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- Jonathan mayhew and and,
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- Whitfield all of these sermons dealt
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- With topics pertinent to the day
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- And what the bible has to say about it.
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- But in the 1870s, we went from the great commission,
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- Which says, make disciples of all nations to making converts.
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- We made it all about evangelism, where we,
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- You know, he didn't say make converts.
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- He said, make disciples.
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- And we've avoided the tough topics and we just say,
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- Oh, i don't do politics.
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- I just preach the gospel. that's gnosticism.
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- And so now you're watching these young people saying,
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- You know, they go to these churches
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- Saying,
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- Charlie taught me all this stuff
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- About transgenderism, homosexuality, abortion,
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- What the bible has to say about it.
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- They come to churches, we don't do politics.
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- Well, that's that's the difference between a revival
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- And an awakening
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- Is that we have to disciple these young people,
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- And we've got to make sure that
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- We're contending in the culture.
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- And that's our heritage, the church in america.
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- That's right.
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- The declaration of independence is a collection of ideas
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- That began in the pulpits of the colonies
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- That when the framers of
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- The declaration
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- Got together to work on that and then the constitution,
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- The ideas they put down on paper,
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- It wasn't some political theory
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- That they distilled from europe.
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- It was biblical world
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- View issues that had to do with the authority over
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- Human lives that they had learned inside their churches.
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- And i know they didn't teach that in school.
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- In your history class.
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- And for full confession, it's the bartons
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- That have reminded me of it.
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- I mean, i took history, but i
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- Didn't read all the things they read,
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- And i didn't learn to talk as fast as they do either.
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- But it's like drinking from a fire hydrant.
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- It is.
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- But it's our truth.
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- And you see, there's no other segment of our culture.
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- If you tried to separate
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- From them, from their heritage,
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- That our culture would stand before that,
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- If you took the native americans and said that their culture
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- Was illegitimate and shouldn't be recognized,
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- There'd be a hue and cry that would be deafening.
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- And they come to those of us with a biblical,
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- Judeo-christian worldview, and they try to deny it.
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- They try to separate us from our history.
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- Please don't walk quietly into that dark night.
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- So we should shape culture.
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- We have shaped culture. and,
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- Breitbart used to say that
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- That politics is downstream from culture.
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- While the church should be driving culture,
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- Which should be driving politics.
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- Politicians are just actors
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- Performing a script written by the audience.
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- We're supposed to be writing that script,
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- And and that's that's so important for the church.
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- The church isn't the slave of the state, nor is it its master.
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- It's the conscience of the state.
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- And we have to push that and drive that.
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- Jonathan mayhew, the eastern seaboard pastor,
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- That our second president, john adams,
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- Attributed the war of independence to.
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- They were telling him, you know, you can't you can't do this
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- Because romans 13 says, we're to submit
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- To all you know, god appoints all positions of authority.
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- We're to submit to them.
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- And they're saying, you can't go against king george.
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- Well, he's someone who coined the term
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- Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to god,
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- Because he said
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- Romans 13 says that those those authorities
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- Are there for our good.
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- And he said, when they cease to do good,
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- They cease to be the authority.
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- And that's why you have the declaration of independence,
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- Not for light or transient causes.
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- They go through all the violations of the word of god
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- That impelled them for this break from from a tyrant king
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- That's driving culture.
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- That's driving culture.
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- I think
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- 2020, in hindsight, was a huge transition point.
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- So we'd heard about pandemics before
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- The bird flu and the swine flu. and,
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- And they kind of fizzled.
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- But covid had some more momentum to it.
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- But, you know, from hindsight,
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- It seems to have changed everything.
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- There's there's
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- A whole set of new perspectives that have come since covid.
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- I mean, our relationship to authority
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- And how we've gathered people
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- And the people we see gather with us and talk about.
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- It didn't stop with covid.
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- I mean, those changes have just continued right up until today.
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- It's like a
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- I mean, you and i have both served the church for a bit,
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- And it's like so many aspects of what's happening
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- Today are different since 2020.
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- You see that too? absolutely.
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- You know,
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- I would hear people say that president trump is a divider.
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- I don't necessarily think he was a divider
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- As much as he was a highlighter.
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- He would
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- He would take a stand,
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- And then you could just see the room divided
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- Where everyone was on bright orange highlighter.
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- Yeah, yeah.
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- And, he's listening.
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- I mean that in a very loving way.
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- So i don't remember.
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- And i think covid was the same way.
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- You would have pastors thinking
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- That they're doing god's work by submitting to authority,
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- But then they realized, and they and they would
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- They would have the misconception of the separation
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- Of church and state, but then they'd watch the church
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- Insert them
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- As they watch the state insert themselves into the church,
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- And all the sudden
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- They were trying to be compliant, but they kept taking
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- And writes are like muscles.
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- If you don't exercise them, you lose them.
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- And they didn't know what those rights were.
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- They didn't even know what it meant to be an american.
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- The apostle paul knew roman citizenship.
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- He could contend for it.
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- Most americans have no idea how many
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- Articles are in the constitution,
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- How many amendments there are.
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- You don't even an america is not an ethnicity.
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- It's an idea.
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- You know, you can look around
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- The room and there's every race, creed, color,
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- And you're an american based on a set of ideas.
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- I can live in japan my whole life, become a japanese citizen.
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- But i'll never be japanese.
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- That's a that's a difference. with america.
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- It's a set of ideas.
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- But if you don't know what those ideas are,
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- What is an american?
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- And that's that's so critical
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- Because we're a nation conceived in liberty.
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- We have
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- We have this understanding for times in our
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- In our birth certificate, we list god
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- That rights don't come from man, they come from god.
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- And that's why we must be diligent
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- To preserve that liberty.
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- And so i think covid has awakened people to realize
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- They're going to do this again.
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- If i don't start understanding
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- What we've been given in a constitutional republic,
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- And i'm watching people become
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- Far more educated in that, especially in the church.
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- Your idea about being an american is absolutely right.
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- It's about a set of values.
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- It's not about the way we look or the accent
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- With which we speak, or the nation
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- From which we've come, or our dna.
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- It was we were bound together by a set of ideals
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- That have made us the most prosperous,
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- Blessed, free people in the history of civilizations.
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- And the church has an essential role in that.
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- Every everybody want want to be a part.
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- But we there's a core of that, that we have an assignment
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- To watch over.
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- And i thank you for those reminders.
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- Don't grow weary with that.
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- No, no, i'm you think about it.
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- America represents 4% of the world's population.
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- And in the 6000 years of recorded history,
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- We've been on the mat for 250 of those years.
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- And we're the oldest country under one articles
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- Incorporation in the history,
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- The 6000 years of recorded history.
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- But with 4% of the world's population.
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- We have more patents, nobel peace prize
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- Winners, more symphonies,
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- More accumulation of wealth
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- Of any other nation in the history of the world.
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- Now, because we have more natural
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- Resources, canada far surpasses us as a south america.
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- We were given freedom.
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- I mean, think about it.
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- If you're enjoying electricity, lighting.
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- It was invented by an american air conditioning
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- Invented by an american
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- Riding an elevator, invented by an american.
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- Flying an airplane invented by an american.
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- Enjoyed the internet. invented by an american, not al gore.
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- But this is all that stuff.
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- Because with freedom comes the ability
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- For for folks to to dream and the american dream.
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- But a government big enough to give you everything you want
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- Is big enough to take everything you have.
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- And so the title cycle of history goes
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- From bondage to faith, faith to freedom,
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- Freedom to abundance, abundance to apathy, apathy
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- To dependance, dependance into slavery.
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- Anywhere in that cycle, you can insert faith
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- And reset it in the 3 to 3 legs of the stool of america.
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- For us to flourish is
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- Faith, virtue and freedom.
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- Liberty because when you have faith, it provides virtue.
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- Freedom is not getting to do whatever you want.
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- Freedom is getting to do what god wants you to do.
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- Is absolutely true.
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- And somehow we got convinced in in church world,
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- We we took away those big rock ideas
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- And we started arguing about when we take communion
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- In the style of worship we prefer.
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- And what's the dress code for the presenter on the platform?
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- And, and we stopped engaging the world we live in.
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- We were made irrelevant,
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- But we voluntarily made ourselves irrelevant.
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- So we've got to walk that back
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- And it's like starting a workout program
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- When you've taken six months off.
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- That first week is awful
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- Because your body doesn't change,
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- But it's screaming at you
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- For changing your habits and behaviors and patterns.
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- And if you decide to be an advocate for jesus, everybody
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- In your sphere of influence won't cheer for you
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- In the first few days.
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- You start that journey,
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- You may not see the outcomes that you're looking for,
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- But honoring the lord isn't about comfort
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- And convenience and ease and always feeling good.
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- It's about pleasing the king.
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- And that is the assignment of the church.
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- Right it is.
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- And again, when the lord said,
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- All authority has been given to me in heaven
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- And on the earth,
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- Go therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing
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- The name of the father
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- And of the son and the holy spirit,
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- And teaching them to obey all that i have commanded you.
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- And i am with you always, even to the end of the age.
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- The reason why, especially in the in the 60s,
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- Young people checked out of church
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- And into eastern religions and experimental drug use
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- Is because the church
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- Abdicated its responsibility to disciple young people,
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- And they're watching
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- Their young friends die in hamlets and villages,
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- The name
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- They couldn't pronounce in a country so far away
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- In vietnam and all their their leaders, you know, martin
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- Luther king jr was murdered, bobby kennedy was murdered.
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- And so they check out of the church
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- In the eastern religions,
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- They end up a wash on the shores of california,
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- All burned out hippies and chuck begins chuck smith.
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- Calvary chapel
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- Begins to teach the bible, verse by verse, chapter
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- By chapter, book by book, but avoids politics.
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- Well, there's 10,000% growth to calvary chapels.
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- There's over 2000 worldwide fastest mission movement.
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- But he avoided politics, and the lion's
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- Share of those 2000 churches are in california.
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- So how does it change the state of california?
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- It started in 1967.
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- Chuck did in california.
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- Reagan was governor.
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- We had the fourth largest gdp.
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- We just completed
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- The california aqueduct, a marvelous civil engineering,
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- Most fertile farmland in the country.
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- And he preaches a gospel thrown out the net every sunday.
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- Death, burial, resurrection of christ.
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- I see your hand. god bless you.
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- And they avoid politics.
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- 50 plus years now doing this.
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- How does it change the state of california?
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- Well, california no longer has a fourth largest gdp.
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- We have the fifth, maybe six.
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- We have the highest gas tax, sales
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- Tax, income tax, corporate tax.
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- We lead the nation in debt.
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- You take the next four largest states debt combined.
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- It doesn't equal california's debt.
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- We're the authors of no fault divorce at reagan signed in 69
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- Became law and 70 decimated marriage across the country.
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- And i love reagan,
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- He said that was the worst piece of legislation.
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- And then you had transgender bathroom bills,
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- A secular, progressive, secular education sex
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- Education curriculum so vile you can read it in church.
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- But here's the kicker
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- Abortion was
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- Legal long before roe v wade in california,
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- And we lead the nation in abortion.
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- It's been estimated
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- That california's aborted more children
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- Than the current population of canada.
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- And we don't just rip the baby apart in the womb of its mother
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- And flush its parts in the sewer system of the state,
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- We harvest the organs on the down beat of the heart.
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- We make nazi germany look like girl scouts.
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- And i'm thinking, where's
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- The power of the gospel?
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- With the largest churches in america?
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- We're in california.
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- If the pastor can't give you a ready answer
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- And educate you
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- On the topics of the day where you can profess christ
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- And insert his truths into the midst of the issues
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- That your neighbors are dealing with.
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- That's problematic.
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- Pray for kings and those in authority.
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- We live quiet and peaceable
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- Lives in all godliness and reverence.
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- And the question would be, pastor, you're
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- Praying for your school board and your your city council.
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- And what are the issues are dealing with
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- In your community to allow your citizens
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- To have quiet, peaceable lives and all godliness and reverence?
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- You don't know their names.
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- You don't know the issues.
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- That's our job.
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- We're to love our neighbors ourselves.
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- Don't you want your kids to grow up
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- Knowing there's there's two sexes?
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- Listen, love isn't lying to somebody.
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- Oh, no. no. you be.
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- You can come out from the opposite sex.
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- No you can't. that's a lie.
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- And it's not loving to lie to them.
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- You're mutilating them.
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- I have to stop. no, no, sorry.
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- No, you don't.
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- No, you don't.
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- It's wrong to feel like we're impotent.
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- Like our voice is small and we can't do anything.
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- It starts at our kitchen table.
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- We got in this fine mess
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- Because we were winking at fornication
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- Around our kitchen table.
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- That we were grinning at adultery we were covering.
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- It was our kids and our grandkids,
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- And we didn't want to interrupt our holidays.
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- And then we found ourselves where perversion
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- Was being normalized and they're changing genders.
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- You're saying our biological sex is confusing,
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- But we lost our moral authority long ago
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- Because we quit standing up for the truth.
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- And if we'll bring the truth back to our homes.
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- See, it's illegitimate
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- To demand that the politicians have more courage than we have
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- If we want them to define their political careers
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- By the worldviews they hold.
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- And we're not willing to define
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- Our families by the values that we bring to our homes,
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- Then we're illegitimate in our faith.
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- We're trying to offload.
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- We're we're trying to,
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- Delegate somebody else
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- To go be a the light in the darkness
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- While we shelter our own lives in darkness.
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- And rather than have rage against people that you disagree
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- With, ask the spirit of god to bring a spirit of repentance
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- And the fear of the lord into our hearts and our homes.
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- And i'm confident
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- That with that, god will bring the changes we need.
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- That with that, god will bring the changes we need.
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- Books.
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- The church in the earth matters,
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- And we have an assignment, certainly,
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- That is attached to eternity,
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- But it's the only conversation we have is about eternity.
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- I don't think
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- Will be on the right side of it when we get there.
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- We're called to impact the world in which we live.
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- If you read the book of acts,
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- Have you read the gospels?
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- John the baptist could have
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- Lived much longer if he hadn't talked about current events.
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- Stephen the same, james the same.
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- Paul could have stayed out of a lot of prisons
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- And would have not suffered physically nearly as much.
- 00:19:35.026 --> 00:19:38.029
- He was accused of disrupting the economies
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- Of the communities where he preached the gospel,
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- Because the message he
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- Took about jesus changed how people spent their money,
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- And they beat him almost to death for it.
- 00:19:46.137 --> 00:19:49.374
- So we have adopted some approach to christianity.
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- That is, it's not about politics.
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- It's not about parties.
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- There's no perfect candidates.
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- But the worldview we hold has to be shaped in the world
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- In which we live,
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- Or we're abandoning in our children to demonic futures.
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