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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Strategic Strike | Allen Jackson Now | January 6, 2026
- Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- Now, the world is a much safer place tonight,
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- Now that the dictator of venezuela has been captured
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- For months,
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- The white house has been warning nicolas maduro to step aside
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- For a lot of reasons, including the fact
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- That his so-called election victories,
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- They were fixed,
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- They were never recognized by the international community.
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- But he carried on for decades, fueled by selling drugs
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- And by the oil he sold at cut
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- Rates to the enemies of the united states.
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- It was a bad guy by every measure, and millions
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- Of venezuelans fled the country to get out from under his rule.
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- One minute he was driving around with friends,
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- Singing and dancing, and 90 minutes later
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- He was handcuffed and blindfolded in operation
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- Absolute resolve and on his way to a high security jail
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- In new york.
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- He's facing
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- Life in prison
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- For conspiring with the big drug cartels
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- And for arming his paramilitary teams
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- With military grade weapons to move his poison
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- All around the world.
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- Well,
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- It was a dramatic ending for a regime
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- That's been responsible
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- For hundreds of thousands of drug deaths a year.
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- And when he finally had the chance to acknowledge
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- What he did before, a judge,
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- Nicolas maduro, pleaded not guilty, arguing
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- That he's entitled to immunity because he's a head of state.
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- So what exactly happened and what's next?
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- Well, with us is the former bush presidential adviser
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- And navy intelligence officer, don bremer.
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- Welcome back sir.
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- Thank you, sir. allen.
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- Always a pleasure to be back in here.
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- Please begin by telling us what you know
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- About operation absolute resolve.
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- It seemed to be a masterfully
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- Planned operation that went off with no american casualties.
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- You know why?
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- You're absolutely right.
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- You know this thing, this about this time last week,
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- We had seals, delta force, army rangers, just a few hours
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- North of you in kentucky, practicing this mission
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- That went off and without incident,
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- You know, 2.5 hours, probie and sergeant to extraction.
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- I applaud our pilots, our warriors and our operators
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- Who did this without loss of lives, without injury.
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- Job well done.
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- That's what we're going to start with, that.
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- I think it was from an operation that i've been a part of.
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- I applaud every person that was a part of.
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- That's.
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- Well, the president and the secretary of state
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- Have been warning maduro to step down for months.
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- Here's how marco rubio described it.
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- Nicolas maduro had multiple opportunities to avoid this.
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- He was provided multiple very, very, very generous offers
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- And chose instead to act like a wild man, chose
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- Instead to play around.
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- And the result is what we saw tonight.
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- This guy had multiple opportunities
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- To find his way somewhere else and figure out another.
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- He could have been living somewhere else right now.
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- Very happy.
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- But instead he wanted to play big boy.
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- And so now you know he's got other
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- Sets of problems on his hands.
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- You know, i know it's hard to get inside the head of a madman,
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- But do you think maduro thought the warning was an idle
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- Threat, given all the protection he had around him?
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- No. i think that in his own
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- Mind, he thought he was untouchable.
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- You know what a lot of people are taking into consideration
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- Here is the back door channels that we were using
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- To communicate with maduro.
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- They didn't start under president trump.
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- They started under president biden.
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- And this has been going on for several years.
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- You know, when the democrats when the liberals also agree
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- That maduro was a bad match,
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- But we've been trying to work with them, play
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- A way to move forward for the people of venezuela
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- And for this government for a very long time.
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- It was until trump became it when it all fits
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- And when barrack thought it was better for him
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- To to mock the united states, to mock the president
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- So that he could build his alliances with this ties to
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- To cuba and to russia and to both china.
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- You know, as with all things trump,
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- The democrats are predictably pushing back
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- With senator schumer talking out of both sides of his mouth.
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- New york's liberal governor
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- Calling the maduro arrest a flagrant abuse of power,
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- And aoc claiming that maduro is drug
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- Running was not the real reason for arresting him.
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- You work with mitch mcconnell, so you're used to the noise
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- They make.
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- Does any of it really matter?
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- You know,
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- I actually have to ask myself sometimes, especially
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- As i watch, chuck schumer and some of the other democrats.
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- You know, which part of their base
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- Are they talking to, or do they even know,
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- Schumer will start a sense talking about
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- How important this mission was and then
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- Turn around and talk about that was a good guy.
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- So, honestly, i don't know who writes world
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- Or if they just get lost in there.
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- They're all tweets about likes,
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- The same people that we see protesting in the streets
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- Right now that are pro venezuela, pro maduro.
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- If you look really close, they're the exact same people.
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- They just got on amazon and bought some new flags.
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- And i you know, they're just getting paid by somebody else.
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- But they're all paid protesters.
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- They don't know what they're protesting against.
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- It's another day in the new career
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- That the united states has created and made a protester.
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- But it wasn't just the democrats who were hesitant
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- About endorsing maduro's arrest.
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- The british prime minister said
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- That he wanted to make clear
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- That he was not involved in the operation
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- And that we should uphold international law
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- While establishing the facts first.
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- Well, here's a fact.
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- We already know great britain as one of the been europe's
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- Biggest markets for illegal drugs from venezuela.
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- So it sounds like the prime minister
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- Is trying to be all things to all people.
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- Well, america leads the charge.
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- I'm misunderstanding it.
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- No you're not.
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- And you know, as the labor party moves forward, you know it is.
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- It is pulling britain away from its traditions
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- And the livelihood that that people of that island
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- Have known for so many years.
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- You know, a country that's gone through,
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- What, six prime minister in five years?
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- I think he's got a lot more to worry
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- About than american policy and american products.
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- You've got, immigrants
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- Flowing into the country, taking over social system,
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- And now you've got a part of,
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- You know, they're more worried
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- About getting rid of fox hunting than they are
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- About making sure that they keep jobs
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- And they keep services on their counter.
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- Well, president trump has
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- No such mixed feelings about why maduro had to be stopped.
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- Listen to what he said.
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- As alleged in the indictment,
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- He personally oversaw the vicious cartel known as
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- Cartel de la solis,
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- Which flooded our nation with lethal poison
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- Responsible for the deaths of countless americans.
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- The many, many americans, hundreds of thousands
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- Over the years of americans died because of him.
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- Maduro and his wife will soon face the full might of american
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- Justice and stand trial on american soil.
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- Don, do you think the effectiveness of the us
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- Operation will resonate
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- With our other enemies around the world?
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- Well, you know, if it doesn't, it should.
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- And if you look at this
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- Play by play and you know, alan, you've seen this before.
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- If you look at 1988, 1989, herbert walker bush
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- And the operation with, nicolas, noriega.
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- You know, it's almost the exact same thing.
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- And. well, but, if i were the shah of iran.
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- I'm sorry, the ayatollah, i would think twice about about
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- How we're moving forward and how he's treating his people
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- Because, you know, his people and even his own police force.
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- They're tired of being oppressed.
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- People die because they don't have enough to eat.
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- When you have, you know, maduro, who lives like a king.
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- Well,
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- Venezuela has the world's largest known oil reserves,
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- But a relatively small part of the market globally.
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- You know, chevron's still there, but no other american
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- Oil companies are there since their equipment was seized
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- By the venezuelan government a few decades ago.
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- President trump says that the big oil
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- Companies are going to get back in the game.
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- They'll fix the drilling infrastructure
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- And start making money for the people of venezuela.
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- What do you think of the strategy
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- Of an economic incentive to get their democracy back on track?
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- I think that the united states,
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- But i also think our global
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- Partners should see this as an opportunity.
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- You could put
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- Oil trade back in balance with a lot of reserves there,
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- That has been controlled by china and, and has been, you
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- Know, it's
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- Been hurting our saudi neighbors and friends
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- Because they've been
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- Under bidding the market
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- Such way that it's, you know, a penalty for them.
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- You know, the people of might as well up.
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- I'm so happy for them.
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- When i saw them dancing in the streets and cheer.
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- It was kind of ironic that in venezuela,
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- They're cheering what the united states did.
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- But if you look in new york, chicago and d.c.,
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- American citizens are calling it a crime.
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- Well, do you have an opinion
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- On who's ultimately going to rule venezuela?
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- I think ultimately await the people of venezuela.
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- I don't think it'll be marco rubio.
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- I don't think it'd be like that.
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- El dorado. trump.
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- It will be a fairly elected government
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- That the people finally get to vote
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- For a send of having
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- Their election stole from that, like they did on january 10th.
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- But we need to take a short break.
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- We've got a lot more we'd like to talk about.
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- Can you stay for one more segment then, sir?
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- We'll be right back.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We're back now with the former navy
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- Intelligence officer and adviser to president bush.
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- Don bremer,
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- I'd like to go through
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- Two more trouble spots while we've got a bit of time.
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- First, iran, where protests are building
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- Against the ayatollah khomeini and president possession.
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- Basic goods are in short supply.
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- Inflation is extremely high,
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- And the overwhelming majority of the people, they want change.
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- Do you think they have enough
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- Momentum to topple the leadership?
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- You know, alan, i pray that they do.
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- You know, i remember in 1979 being in high school
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- And saying the reverse of this, when iran
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- Fell and the ayatollah, came into leadership.
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- And through the years of doing this, this comment,
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- I've seen so much about the people of iran,
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- You know, starving, inflation rising.
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- And even when president obama, you know, gave all that money
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- To iran, none of it went to the people,
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- It went to hezbollah, he went to hamas
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- And went to all the terror organizations across the world.
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- And everyone got richer and terror spread.
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- So so i hope this time we had the momentum.
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- I think it's extremely,
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- Optimistic when the people here, the president,
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- The united states saying that he supports them
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- And he backs down.
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- But what i really appreciate is finally,
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- You see the president of iran starting to distance himself
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- From the ayatollah.
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- But you see the, the, the police officers and abd
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- And on
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- Who are actually laying
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- Down their weapons and refusing to fight the protesters.
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- To me, that shows promise.
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- And but, you know, the internet's being shut off,
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- People are being killed or children are being killed.
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- I hope this time it's momentum
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- To make change in a positive direction.
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- But it's not just about iran here.
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- It'll it'll trickle down
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- And it'll take resolve against
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- A lot of the other terror organizations.
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- Well, the ayatollah has seemed far
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- More determined to keep promoting hate
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- Than they do to care for the people of iran.
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- Is there any hope they'll change? no.
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- When you have leadership
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- And you have power that is built on hate,
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- The more that you make yourself seem like the only thing
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- That distances, your way of life between those of others.
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- And that's what fuels you.
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- And that's what just constantly builds them up.
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- But i think the people are tired of fear.
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- They're tired of being oppressed.
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- And they those who do get out and travel, those who do tap
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- Into the dark web,
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- They see what the rest of the world is like,
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- And they don't want to live like that anymore.
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- They're tired of digging through trash and, you know, having
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- To sacrifice family members just for the festivities of life.
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- Well, if the
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- People did manage to overthrow the ayatollahs,
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- Do you think that would mean hamas would capitulate?
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- I think that it would have a dire effect on them.
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- You know, if you look at the
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- Amount of money that goes to hamas, hezbollah,
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- Across the globe.
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- You know,
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- That is a huge part of the way they sustain themselves.
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- So it would it would trickle down so that,
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- A lot of those organizations that have made,
- 00:12:41.988 --> 00:12:44.257
- You know, they've made a career,
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- They have profited from, from terror.
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- It would have a huge impact on them.
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- You know, president trump is using kind of the economic
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- Carrot as the imagination of rebuilding venezuela.
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- You suggested some similar things with gaza
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- About some economic opportunities there
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- That would benefit
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- Not only the gazan people, but the people of the region.
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- I think that's a realistic proposal.
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- I think it could be, you know,
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- They always say in real estate location, location, location.
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- Well, you know, you have to look.
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- You have, you know, very nice coastline all along gaza
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- That if you look just a short miles away,
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- You know, look at what's been done in tel aviv.
- 00:13:19.225 --> 00:13:21.327
- It's one of the top vacation spots in the world.
- 00:13:21.327 --> 00:13:23.930
- So look at where you're at. there's always opportunity.
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- You just have to invest in the land,
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- Invest in the infrastructure,
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- But most importantly, invest in your people.
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- You know, the abraham accords have been a big part of that
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- Kind of expanding conversation of peace in the region.
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- Do you think there's some more partners
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- To join those accords in the near future?
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- I think the more partners you can find,
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- You bring us, the better that we have.
- 00:13:46.152 --> 00:13:49.322
- You know, gaza is going to have a large problem.
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- Is there's going to be a huge void that is created when you do
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- Take, hamas out of the picture, because hamas has been
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- Law enforcement, they've been military,
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- They've been judge, jury, they've been everything.
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- And just like when we pulled out of iran, suddenly,
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- You know, you create a vacuum.
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- And when you take away,
- 00:14:09.008 --> 00:14:10.276
- Like we did in iran or iraq, i'm sorry, the police department
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- And the military, you know, people need that type,
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- Of guidance and stability to, to maintain daily life.
- 00:14:17.216 --> 00:14:20.486
- So we're going to have to have those partners
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- To help fill that, whether it's through,
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- Police organizations, whether it's through nato,
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- Any other organization
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- That can help bring that infrastructure back.
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- So that stability,
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- Is always there, and that void is not filled by
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- Another set of dictators or another terror organization.
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- You don't i think you bring up a really important point.
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- I've been in and out of the middle east for a long time.
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- There's generational hatred there.
- 00:14:44.677 --> 00:14:46.379
- We change the names from hamas to isis to whomever,
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- But they've been coaching that hatred for a long, long time.
- 00:14:50.984 --> 00:14:55.688
- What does it take to reverse that and actually begin
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- To have an imagination of living together?
- 00:14:58.291 --> 00:15:00.126
- You know, it takes generations to fix that.
- 00:15:00.994 --> 00:15:03.930
- I, i remember, doing intel operations in iraq
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- And some of the beliefs that they had that were just embedded
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- And ingrained in their thought process.
- 00:15:11.671 --> 00:15:13.439
- You could listen and and it was it was decades,
- 00:15:13.439 --> 00:15:16.409
- If not centuries old
- 00:15:16.409 --> 00:15:17.577
- That went back from, you know, when the english
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- And the british occupied that area.
- 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:22.482
- And the same thing with afghanistan.
- 00:15:22.482 --> 00:15:23.950
- You know, so much of why we had failures in afghanistan
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- Is because they blamed what happened with from russia.
- 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:30.423
- You know, occupation there.
- 00:15:30.423 --> 00:15:32.191
- It takes the it takes decades.
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- And i think here in the united states,
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- You know, we have
- 00:15:35.461 --> 00:15:36.896
- People who believe certain ways because,
- 00:15:36.896 --> 00:15:39.032
- You know, that's what they were taught in the 50s and 60s.
- 00:15:39.032 --> 00:15:41.167
- And it just takes a long time to fix that. education
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- And communication, i think, are the two biggest keys.
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- Well, dawn, thank you for joining us today.
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- We always appreciate your insights and expertise.
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- Thank you sir. it's been a blessing.
- 00:15:52.111 --> 00:15:53.980
- In a moment.
- 00:15:53.980 --> 00:15:55.081
- Other reasons for hope.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We'll be right back.
- 00:16:04.008 --> 00:16:07.796
- Nicolas maduro operated venezuela
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- Like a drug trafficking hub
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- Where cartels, military officials and political elites.
- 00:16:12.901 --> 00:16:16.404
- They work together to move dangerous drugs into our borders
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- And into our communities.
- 00:16:20.108 --> 00:16:21.943
- They committed tremendous resources
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- And cooperated
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- With our enemies in order to smuggle drugs into our country.
- 00:16:25.146 --> 00:16:28.416
- More than 100,000 fentanyl overdoses
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- Every year. families
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- Shattered in communities throughout our nation.
- 00:16:32.787 --> 00:16:35.523
- One of the most violent gangs in the world came from venezuela.
- 00:16:35.523 --> 00:16:39.427
- They flooded through our open borders,
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- And now they have a presence in all 50 american states.
- 00:16:41.162 --> 00:16:44.833
- It's a stunning reality
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- That we're going to have to live through.
- 00:16:46.267 --> 00:16:48.269
- Well, i don't
- 00:16:48.269 --> 00:16:48.937
- Imagine that the united states
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- Can or should be the policeman for the world.
- 00:16:49.938 --> 00:16:52.941
- But venezuela is not exactly the world.
- 00:16:52.941 --> 00:16:55.143
- It's our back door.
- 00:16:55.143 --> 00:16:57.145
- And we have to pay attention to what happens in our hemisphere.
- 00:16:57.145 --> 00:17:00.381
- Are we are extraordinarily vulnerable.
- 00:17:00.381 --> 00:17:03.351
- Well, something happened this past weekend
- 00:17:03.351 --> 00:17:05.153
- That i want to take just a moment and share with you.
- 00:17:05.153 --> 00:17:07.622
- I was trying to sort out the comments
- 00:17:07.622 --> 00:17:09.691
- That were appropriate about venezuela,
- 00:17:09.691 --> 00:17:11.593
- Trying to understand
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- Even how i felt about what was happening,
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- Because we were just hearing the news
- 00:17:14.095 --> 00:17:15.864
- About the time i was preparing for a worship service.
- 00:17:15.864 --> 00:17:19.134
- Well, after church, i was at the altar ministering
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- To people,
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- As i customarily do, and a couple
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- From the congregation that i knew from venezuela.
- 00:17:24.105 --> 00:17:27.642
- They approached and they didn't say anything to me
- 00:17:27.642 --> 00:17:30.278
- Except, do you have a minute to speak to a friend of ours?
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- And i said, sure.
- 00:17:33.615 --> 00:17:35.350
- And they held up their phone, and on the phone was a pastor.
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- He was facetiming me live from venezuela.
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- He had tears running down his face.
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- I didn't know the man.
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- He said, pastor, thank you.
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- He said, we are so grateful for what
- 00:17:48.930 --> 00:17:50.331
- The united states is doing,
- 00:17:50.331 --> 00:17:51.933
- And we wanted you to know so you can
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- Tell your congregation and whoever was listening.
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- We have a hope that we might have the
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- Freedom to preach the gospel.
- 00:17:58.072 --> 00:17:59.874
- Well, the prayer i have in my heart today,
- 00:18:00.742 --> 00:18:02.544
- I want you to join me
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- In that the changes in venezuela
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- Will bring freedom to those people
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- And that god will help orchestrate those changes.
- 00:18:07.882 --> 00:18:10.718
- I'm grateful for our president
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- And the government and those who have acted,
- 00:18:12.020 --> 00:18:13.988
- But now we need to see god bring a conclusion to that
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- That will promote freedom and liberty.
- 00:18:16.991 --> 00:18:19.360
- Your prayers.
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- They make a difference.
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- We'll be right back with your emails.
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- We'll be right back with your emails.
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- Thank you for spending a few minutes of your day with us.
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- Just a reminder that
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- If you ever miss a program live, you can always go to aj.
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- Now.com.
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- There's a full archive there of all the programs.
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- Your emails are always a highlight.
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- Judy. be in california.
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- I ask
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- In light of how front and center illegal immigration has been.
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- How do you respond
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- To those who say,
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- Well, we invaded the land of the american indians,
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- Especially with how poorly native americans
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- Were treated for so many years?
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- Well, that's a that's an important question.
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- And it's one that i don't think our,
- 00:19:12.850 --> 00:19:15.920
- Our educational elites have helped with for several decades.
- 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:18.856
- The reality of migrating people
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- Groups are a part of global history.
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- They're not unique to the americas or north america,
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- Or even to europe.
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- And that western migration during a period of colonialism,
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- People migration has been a part of the story
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- Of the unfolding of civilization.
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- That's a different chapter in global history
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- And the relationships
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- Between nation states and how those are conducted,
- 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:44.482
- And to conflate the true two,
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- And to imagine that it only happened
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- Or it primarily happened in north america
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- Is really a way of fostering hate.
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- I believe we have a
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- Responsibility to treat those indigenous peoples with respect.
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- But i don't believe fostering hate generation upon generation
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- Upon generation and discontent is doing
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- A is a favor or a blessing to anyone involved.
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- Rita commented on youtube, i can't believe the united states
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- Allows so much violence in new york city's in trouble.
- 00:20:13.577 --> 00:20:16.647
- So many precious children are being so abused by rapists.
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- Ice is doing a great job by rescuing them.
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- Great conversation and god bless.
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- Well, we've let lawlessness proliferate for far too long.
- 00:20:24.789 --> 00:20:27.992
- We're going to have to submit to the rule of law
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- Again.
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- It begins in our homes
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- And our hearts begins with our faith.
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- We'll do that. it'll affect the entire nation.
- 00:20:34.332 --> 00:20:36.701
- God's moving in the earth.
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- We want to be a part of that.
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- I'm alan jackson, and you have a good evening.
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