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Allen Jackson: Tense Landing | Allen Jackson Now

May 20, 2026 | 22:46

Allen Jackson: Tense Landing | Allen Jackson Now
Charlie Duke joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Tense Landing | Allen Jackson Now | May 20, 2026
  • Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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  • I'm alan jackson.
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  • It's been 53 years since man walked on the moon.
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  • Neil armstrong got there first.
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  • Gene cernan, he was last.
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  • And charlie duke,
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  • He was the youngest of the 12 men
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  • Who left their footprints there.
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  • They made it look easy,
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  • But anyone at nasa could tell you how high the risks were
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  • And how great
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  • The chances were that they might not make it back to earth.
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  • In fact, the first time they went to land on the moon,
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  • They only had
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  • 17 seconds worth of fuel left before they would have crashed.
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  • Listen to mission control as it happened.
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  • You go to continue park.
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  • They say a year ago to continue our defense.
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  • I did anything go for landing 3500ft down to 1900 feet.
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  • Three and a half down.
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  • I'm forward 60s
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  • Base on that military base here.
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  • The eagle has landed.
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  • Roger, duane.
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  • Tranquility, we copy on the ground.
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  • You got a bunch of guys about to turn blue.
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  • We're breathing again.
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  • Thanks a lot.
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  • Well, that was 33 year old charlie
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  • Duke talking to neil armstrong.
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  • Three years later, it was his turn to walk on the moon.
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  • But even though in light only
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  • 12 astronauts got there, the achievement was not the end
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  • Of his journey.
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  • All 12 were treated as national heroes.
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  • But for charlie duke, there was a much more meaningful journey.
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  • He said that the moonwalk was exciting and satisfying,
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  • But it doesn't begin to compare with my walk with jesus.
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  • You know, the bible encourages us to think about things
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  • That are true, noble, right, pure, lovely, and admirable
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  • Things that are excellent and praiseworthy.
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  • I admire the people at nasa,
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  • Men and women who refuse to accept limits, who push past
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  • Every barrier, who choose to pioneer the unknown.
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  • So the rest of the world could see what's possible.
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  • It's the beauty of our nation,
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  • A nation filled with opportunities.
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  • We need to keep it that way.
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  • We need to protect the ideals that made our nation great.
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  • Let's see.
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  • The world is filled with opportunities,
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  • Not as if it were filled
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  • With obstacles that diminish our opportunities.
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  • You know, when you man.
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  • And he looked up at the sky and said, we'll never get there.
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  • America didn't debate it.
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  • We came together and did the impossible.
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  • For generations, the world peeked
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  • At the limited speed of a horse.
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  • Then henry ford stepped in
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  • And found ways to build cars faster and better.
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  • That didn't just improve transportation.
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  • It made the masses
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  • Mobile, unlocking opportunity and reshaping everyday life.
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  • Even in medicine,
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  • There was a time when surgery meant unbearable pain.
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  • Until doctors at massachusetts
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  • General hospital demonstrated anesthesia.
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  • The invention of the microchip launched the digital age.
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  • Everything you touch today, your phone,
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  • Your computer business, the economy,
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  • They all run on digital foundations.
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  • Think about it.
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  • When our local church congregation first
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  • Started decades ago, it began as a small bible study gathering
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  • In the home of my parents.
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  • And now, because of digital technology,
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  • Our sermons are being heard live in real time
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  • By people in their own homes thousands of miles away.
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  • Expressions of strength and exceptionalism
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  • Must continue,
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  • Or we will leave our young people
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  • In the generations that follow vulnerable.
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  • Socialism destroys exceptionalism.
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  • It penalizes the very things that make a nation strong.
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  • Innovation. hard work.
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  • Entrepreneurship.
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  • We've got to return unapologetically
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  • To the notion of exceptionalism.
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  • There's never been anything quite
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  • Like this experiment in self-government.
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  • It's brought freedom, liberty and prosperity
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  • In an unprecedented way.
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  • And i believe we can do it again if we will return
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  • To honoring god in our hearts, our lives, and our communities.
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  • Now, that's a goal worth pursuing in a moment.
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  • Former astronaut charlie duke
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  • Will join us from his home in south carolina.
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  • That's in t -two minutes and counting, to be exact.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • The united states is heading back to the moon again.
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  • It's been a long time since we were there.
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  • At last. there.
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  • Tonight we have a man who made it there.
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  • And back when he was only 36 years old, charlie duke.
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  • Welcome to our show, sir.
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  • Thank you very much.
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  • Alan, good to be with you.
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  • Before you went to the moon, you were the capsule
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  • Communicator for the first moon landing.
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  • This was the mission where it looked like
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  • They might run out of fuel before they landed.
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  • Can you tell us what you were thinking
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  • When it looked like neil
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  • Armstrong and buzz aldrin might crash into the moon?
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  • Well, it was,
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  • We were down to 13 seconds before we called them aboard.
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  • Fuel remaining.
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  • That doesn't mean they're going to be out of gas,
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  • But it's a reserve fuel
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  • We had down to our
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  • Reserve of fuel, which i think would like 4%.
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  • And so, we wanted to give them a go, and,
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  • But we were running up.
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  • We were still coming down to our limit.
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  • And so we,
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  • We called,
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  • Cold 30s and then quarter mile watch.
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  • It was about 13 seconds later, our contact engine stopped.
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  • I knew they were on the ground.
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  • Had we got to the end of the 30s, it would have been,
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  • Houston, abort.
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  • This is, eagle.
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  • Abort.
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  • I'm sure it would have been a little slight delay.
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  • It would have been near was they say again, houston.
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  • The, they had, they were 20 or 30ft off the ground.
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  • He had a final say on whether he was going to land that,
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  • Spacecraft were not.
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  • And so they did a great job.
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  • The tension, was really high in mission control.
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  • I was so excited,
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  • Couldn't even pronounce tranquility.
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  • He had told me before the landing
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  • That he was, before the flight, and,
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  • He was going to change his callsign to tranquility on
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  • The descent. and,
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  • So, i was
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  • Prepared for it, but it was, system tension was through
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  • The roof, as you can imagine, with the the,
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  • The fuel states,
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  • Approaching, abort.
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  • So anyway, we made it and, all those,
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  • Well, it's, looking back and,
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  • It was, tremendous opportunity for me
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  • And a great thrill and a great honor,
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  • To have been talking to the first,
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  • Landing neil and the forced landing on the moon,
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  • And then to have, you know,
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  • 70 to have my chance to go,
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  • With, another thank through, by the way,
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  • 54 years ago today, we were flight.
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  • Think we were still on the moon at this point, but,
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  • Maybe we have left.
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  • We had left it all at this.
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  • As you mentioned, it was just three years later, after that
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  • Initial landing,
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  • That you were on the moon. you were one of only
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  • 12 astronauts who made it there and back.
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  • You were the youngest two.
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  • But despite that success, you had something else on your mind.
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  • So i want to quote from your letter
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  • I used to say i could live 10,000 years and never have
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  • An experience as thrilling as walking on the moon,
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  • But the excitement and satisfaction of that walk
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  • Doesn't begin to compare with my walk
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  • With jesus, the walk that lasts forever.
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  • Can you share with us what came to you
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  • When you wrote that down?
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  • Well,
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  • When i was,
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  • In the space program, was not a, i was,
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  • I'd call myself a christian, but it was head knowledge.
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  • It was a heart situation with, with the lord and through
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  • Some marriage problems later on in, in our life and,
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  • Troubles in our marriage, and other things,
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  • My wife came to the lord and 76,
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  • I guess, those spring or no fall of 75.
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  • And, so, it was the, there's noticed
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  • A tremendous change in her, and,
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  • She forgave me and, was,
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  • Just, changed person,
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  • By the power of god.
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  • And so, after a couple of years,
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  • That was in november of 75 for her and a couple of years
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  • Later, we had moved and i was in business and,
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  • Was doing well with,
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  • Some and
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  • We had a we got an invite to bible study.
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  • I want to go, but it was, it was go.
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  • Oh, we can't go late.
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  • How do you study the bible week? yeah.
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  • So i was really resisting, but my this friend had invited me.
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  • It was so sweet and so nice, and, and so we,
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  • We met people around ten inch ranch
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  • And new braunfels, texas, and, all weekend.
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  • And at the end of that week and, i,
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  • Had this thought as, sitting in the front seat of my car,
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  • I said, you know, this is all true
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  • Or the biggest lie or lie ever perpetrated against humanity.
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  • And i said, lord, i believe.
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  • And i did said that,
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  • Experience the peace of god.
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  • It was i've done that many times since then,
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  • But that's the first time that just peace flooded over me.
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  • And he said it was i got it wrong.
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  • That's what i needed in my life.
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  • And jesus came in and laid all that was filled with the spirit.
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  • And it was
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  • And just started a walk, that we share all over the world
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  • Through, duke ministries for christ and my pastor.
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  • It's been,
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  • A tremendous opportunity to serve the lord,
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  • And to share the the good news of jesus,
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  • Around the world with not only christian sources,
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  • But, all kind of, invitations that we get.
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  • And, i do a lot of, just,
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  • Space talks, if you will, and,
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  • But i always pray it.
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  • And so this talk, i said, lord, has
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  • Somebody asked me a question, cashier jesus. and,
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  • So, the question you like, well,
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  • Then the walk on the moon change your life.
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  • And i said, no, that didn't.
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  • But let me tell you what does, and, i
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  • And i share jesus and, ten minutes. wow.
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  • I mean, it is whatever it is, but you can tell the promoter,
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  • The audience, changes and, it,
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  • So it's it's i'm just available
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  • To, to testify about the power
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  • And the life changing,
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  • Experience that you get when you open your heart and,
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  • And say, jesus, come into my life
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  • And let's begin our walk to eternity.
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  • Well, you have been a wonderful ambassador
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  • For the kingdom of god.
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  • One other thing you said that caught my eye.
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  • You said that if you had your life to do over again,
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  • The only difference would be that you would have put jesus
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  • At the center of your life from the beginning.
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  • But now we're into that.
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  • Well, i think it would have given me
  • 00:11:48.242 --> 00:11:50.444
  • A lot more.
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  • Peace.
  • 00:11:53.548 --> 00:11:54.982
  • A lot more stability in my, my life.
  • 00:11:54.982 --> 00:11:58.319
  • There were a lot of ups and downs in my career.
  • 00:11:58.319 --> 00:12:01.189
  • There was, you know, all, in the end. but,
  • 00:12:01.189 --> 00:12:04.826
  • With marriage problems and family problems
  • 00:12:05.726 --> 00:12:08.429
  • And things like that, it was,
  • 00:12:08.429 --> 00:12:13.401
  • A, a struggle,
  • 00:12:13.734 --> 00:12:17.572
  • You know, to balance everything, you know, when i came, lord,
  • 00:12:17.572 --> 00:12:22.276
  • The lord spoke to me and, from the scriptures, about,
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  • Husbands love your wives as,
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  • Like christ loved the church.
  • 00:12:29.817 --> 00:12:32.987
  • And, god spoke to my heart.
  • 00:12:32.987 --> 00:12:34.589
  • So, you know, love your wife, feel that way, and,
  • 00:12:34.589 --> 00:12:38.492
  • You repent.
  • 00:12:38.826 --> 00:12:40.328
  • And so, ask god to forgive me.
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  • I want to see daddy, and, i ask you to forgive me.
  • 00:12:43.197 --> 00:12:46.367
  • And, she already had in her heart, but she, also to me
  • 00:12:46.367 --> 00:12:51.939
  • Said i forgave you.
  • 00:12:51.939 --> 00:12:53.107
  • And, and so we began to build,
  • 00:12:53.107 --> 00:12:56.611
  • Marriage on that foundation of jesus.
  • 00:12:57.411 --> 00:13:00.548
  • And, it really made a difference over the last 50 years.
  • 00:13:00.548 --> 00:13:05.186
  • And, then,
  • 00:13:05.486 --> 00:13:08.923
  • Then the lord spoke to me from the scriptures and proverbs.
  • 00:13:08.923 --> 00:13:12.994
  • It says you have the power of life and death and of time,
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  • So you can speak
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  • Life or you can speak death.
  • 00:13:17.698 --> 00:13:20.801
  • And, so, and god
  • 00:13:20.801 --> 00:13:23.938
  • Spoke to my heart, says the
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  • You have cursed your own child.
  • 00:13:27.642 --> 00:13:30.945
  • Well, and that was a shock.
  • 00:13:30.945 --> 00:13:33.981
  • And, i was a military
  • 00:13:34.482 --> 00:13:36.450
  • Drill instructor, dad.
  • 00:13:36.450 --> 00:13:39.820
  • So i went to the boys, and, i think tom
  • 00:13:39.820 --> 00:13:42.757
  • Was nine at the time.
  • 00:13:42.757 --> 00:13:46.360
  • And i said, boys, forgive me.
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  • In the wrong kind of dad,
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  • I want to be the dad that god wants me to be.
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  • I love you.
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  • And, and help us to grow together.
  • 00:13:57.405 --> 00:14:00.608
  • Tom looked up.
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  • That's okay dad.
  • 00:14:02.376 --> 00:14:04.445
  • So they forgave me and his brother gave me,
  • 00:14:04.445 --> 00:14:06.814
  • Forgave me, and we began to build our relationship
  • 00:14:06.814 --> 00:14:09.917
  • On the of solid foundation of jesus.
  • 00:14:09.917 --> 00:14:12.987
  • And now, thankfully,
  • 00:14:12.987 --> 00:14:14.555
  • Our kids are doing that with our grandkids. and,
  • 00:14:14.555 --> 00:14:18.659
  • And then the other last night, god spoke to me.
  • 00:14:19.593 --> 00:14:22.463
  • That was a lot of sense in my own life.
  • 00:14:22.463 --> 00:14:24.098
  • But they saw the three biggies. and,
  • 00:14:24.098 --> 00:14:27.568
  • And, i read over and i think it's
  • 00:14:27.568 --> 00:14:30.304
  • Malachi says where god says, you're robbing me.
  • 00:14:30.304 --> 00:14:34.241
  • Oh. and i said, well, i say, i say, you not given tithes
  • 00:14:34.241 --> 00:14:38.346
  • And offerings and, and so, story
  • 00:14:38.346 --> 00:14:42.383
  • When i gave, started giving,
  • 00:14:42.383 --> 00:14:46.420
  • Out of my heart to the lord and other charities and stuff.
  • 00:14:46.420 --> 00:14:50.157
  • And so the more i give you can out, out give god
  • 00:14:50.157 --> 00:14:53.594
  • And the more i give, the more he gives.
  • 00:14:53.594 --> 00:14:55.796
  • And that's scripture's really true.
  • 00:14:55.796 --> 00:14:58.099
  • And so,
  • 00:14:58.099 --> 00:15:00.267
  • We have a,
  • 00:15:00.267 --> 00:15:03.804
  • We still have some bumps in the road, you know.
  • 00:15:03.804 --> 00:15:06.440
  • Well, they can in the getting the marriage gets in a ditch
  • 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:09.877
  • Every once in a while, but there's a way to get out
  • 00:15:09.877 --> 00:15:13.781
  • And that's through forgiveness and communications and,
  • 00:15:13.781 --> 00:15:19.387
  • And just loving
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  • One another and loving through it, dying.
  • 00:15:20.721 --> 00:15:24.425
  • We have disagreements.
  • 00:15:24.425 --> 00:15:25.593
  • We do not go to bed without settling,
  • 00:15:25.593 --> 00:15:30.297
  • Some of our disagreement.
  • 00:15:30.865 --> 00:15:33.667
  • So we always have a,
  • 00:15:33.667 --> 00:15:36.704
  • If we have a have disagreement
  • 00:15:36.704 --> 00:15:39.206
  • During the day, during
  • 00:15:39.206 --> 00:15:42.376
  • Our, scripture time when we read scripture together
  • 00:15:42.376 --> 00:15:45.212
  • And study the bible, we'll talk about
  • 00:15:45.212 --> 00:15:48.282
  • Whatever was the problem, and i, i said, and we both go
  • 00:15:48.282 --> 00:15:51.852
  • To sleep, turn out the lights with peace, in our hearts.
  • 00:15:51.852 --> 00:15:56.490
  • And out there for love for one another.
  • 00:15:56.490 --> 00:15:58.993
  • So what? it's always good,
  • 00:15:58.993 --> 00:16:01.996
  • To to communicate and,
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  • Hey, man, don't let you know, charlie,
  • 00:16:04.732 --> 00:16:07.268
  • That is a remarkable testimony that the god who watched over
  • 00:16:07.268 --> 00:16:10.438
  • You all the way to the moon and back
  • 00:16:10.438 --> 00:16:12.540
  • Cared enough about you to help you get your marriage
  • 00:16:12.540 --> 00:16:15.009
  • And your family on the right track to,
  • 00:16:15.009 --> 00:16:17.611
  • That is a remarkable story.
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  • We need to take a short break.
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  • If you stay with us for another segment, we'll be right back.
  • 00:16:20.514 --> 00:16:28.010
  • If you stay with us for another segment, we'll be right back.
  • 00:16:28.010 --> 00:16:33.692
  • We're
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  • Back now with apollo 16 and charlie duke.
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  • You know, a lot of us have read the story
  • 00:16:37.162 --> 00:16:38.864
  • About apollo 13 or seen the movie.
  • 00:16:38.864 --> 00:16:41.400
  • It's been called the successful failure.
  • 00:16:41.400 --> 00:16:44.236
  • Did you and your crew have any tough moments
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  • Along the way that we haven't heard about yet? and,
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  • Yeah, we did, as a matter of fact,
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  • We were on the backside of the moon
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  • One hour before we could land.
  • 00:16:55.981 --> 00:16:58.984
  • Mattingly reports of a major problem in us
  • 00:16:58.984 --> 00:17:02.955
  • And his spacecraft,
  • 00:17:03.422 --> 00:17:05.224
  • And he said, and john said, well, don't burn.
  • 00:17:05.224 --> 00:17:08.861
  • We're don john said that we weren't
  • 00:17:08.861 --> 00:17:11.430
  • Going to land the next hour around halfway around.
  • 00:17:11.430 --> 00:17:15.534
  • And that was when we were scheduled for our landing.
  • 00:17:15.534 --> 00:17:18.570
  • So we came around from the backside and told houston,
  • 00:17:18.570 --> 00:17:21.540
  • And they said, we'll stand by, we'll look at it.
  • 00:17:21.540 --> 00:17:24.810
  • And so we orbited two, two times,
  • 00:17:24.810 --> 00:17:28.280
  • Which is two hours per orbit.
  • 00:17:28.280 --> 00:17:30.849
  • And after the two hours, two orbits, we came around
  • 00:17:30.849 --> 00:17:35.587
  • From backside where the moon is rotating out from under us.
  • 00:17:35.587 --> 00:17:40.125
  • And this was the last revolution where we could still have the
  • 00:17:40.125 --> 00:17:43.495
  • Fuel to get back to our landing site.
  • 00:17:43.495 --> 00:17:45.931
  • And, mission control says,
  • 00:17:46.498 --> 00:17:49.902
  • We know what's wrong.
  • 00:17:49.902 --> 00:17:51.870
  • We can't fix it, but here's a workaround. so
  • 00:17:51.870 --> 00:17:54.506
  • Your go from landing man amanda
  • 00:17:54.506 --> 00:17:57.676
  • Joy and just erupted. and,
  • 00:17:57.676 --> 00:18:01.213
  • And the spacecraft, we got to get our chance.
  • 00:18:02.181 --> 00:18:05.384
  • And so, the next time around, we came around and fire
  • 00:18:05.384 --> 00:18:09.488
  • The engine. man. blake, fire his. and. no problem.
  • 00:18:09.488 --> 00:18:12.157
  • And, we,
  • 00:18:12.157 --> 00:18:13.792
  • We borrowed our engine and started our day
  • 00:18:13.792 --> 00:18:15.827
  • South and made a john
  • 00:18:15.827 --> 00:18:17.196
  • Made a fantastic landing right in the middle of the day.
  • 00:18:17.196 --> 00:18:20.332
  • Columns.
  • 00:18:20.332 --> 00:18:21.700
  • So that started a three day adventure, which we're just now
  • 00:18:21.700 --> 00:18:24.903
  • Getting over now 54 years ago.
  • 00:18:24.903 --> 00:18:27.406
  • Well, you know, once you landed, you and your partner, john
  • 00:18:27.406 --> 00:18:30.209
  • Young, spent more than 70 hours on the lunar surface.
  • 00:18:30.209 --> 00:18:33.278
  • The two of you set the driving record, going 16
  • 00:18:33.278 --> 00:18:35.847
  • Miles on a single journey in that lunar roving vehicle.
  • 00:18:35.847 --> 00:18:38.984
  • Tell us what it was like.
  • 00:18:38.984 --> 00:18:40.285
  • No traffic problems, i suspect.
  • 00:18:40.285 --> 00:18:42.654
  • Well, the, the.
  • 00:18:43.021 --> 00:18:45.657
  • I'm glad we had seatbelts on the rover.
  • 00:18:45.657 --> 00:18:47.759
  • It was bouncy.
  • 00:18:47.759 --> 00:18:50.295
  • The rover down here, up on the moon.
  • 00:18:50.295 --> 00:18:52.864
  • Only way to 80 pounds.
  • 00:18:52.864 --> 00:18:54.733
  • So if you didn't like your parking place,
  • 00:18:54.733 --> 00:18:56.401
  • You could pick up your rover on. god.
  • 00:18:56.401 --> 00:18:59.538
  • Johnny got on your side. i got a minus sign.
  • 00:18:59.538 --> 00:19:01.340
  • We just walked away with it
  • 00:19:01.340 --> 00:19:02.574
  • And turned it around or whatever we wanted to do, and,
  • 00:19:02.574 --> 00:19:06.378
  • So, you you wanted to work on your seatbelt because around
  • 00:19:06.378 --> 00:19:11.116
  • It was bouncy and, on the road, on the, on the moon.
  • 00:19:11.116 --> 00:19:15.354
  • And so, john drove i navigated and,
  • 00:19:15.354 --> 00:19:19.725
  • We hit every major,
  • 00:19:19.725 --> 00:19:23.795
  • Feature that we,
  • 00:19:24.196 --> 00:19:26.031
  • We had on our flight plan during the three day excursion.
  • 00:19:26.031 --> 00:19:29.601
  • Three day, three, day three excursions,
  • 00:19:29.601 --> 00:19:31.937
  • Way out on the lunar surface. and,
  • 00:19:31.937 --> 00:19:34.406
  • We probably set the,
  • 00:19:34.873 --> 00:19:36.908
  • Speed record on the moon for, rover and, like,
  • 00:19:36.908 --> 00:19:41.513
  • 15 miles an hour or 17 miles of off,
  • 00:19:41.513 --> 00:19:45.317
  • But, 70 miles an hour.
  • 00:19:45.784 --> 00:19:47.853
  • And and a vehicle was going like, this is really,
  • 00:19:47.853 --> 00:19:51.189
  • Really exciting.
  • 00:19:51.590 --> 00:19:52.891
  • You're glad you had your seatbelt on?
  • 00:19:52.891 --> 00:19:55.160
  • Well, charlie, we need to take another break.
  • 00:19:55.160 --> 00:19:56.895
  • I've got one last question.
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  • When we come back, stay tuned.
  • 00:19:58.196 --> 00:20:02.008
  • When we come back, stay tuned.
  • 00:20:02.008 --> 00:20:02.329
  • Well, astronaut gene cernan
  • 00:20:02.929 --> 00:20:04.765
  • Famously carved his daughter's initials on the lunar surface
  • 00:20:04.765 --> 00:20:07.601
  • Before coming home.
  • 00:20:07.601 --> 00:20:09.069
  • You left a family photo of you, your wife, and two sons.
  • 00:20:09.069 --> 00:20:12.639
  • Can you tell us what you said in the note?
  • 00:20:12.639 --> 00:20:17.210
  • When,
  • 00:20:17.444 --> 00:20:19.179
  • I left it on the on the moon and on the back of it,
  • 00:20:19.179 --> 00:20:22.115
  • I said, this is the family last mod dude, dude
  • 00:20:22.115 --> 00:20:25.519
  • From, planet earth who landed on the moon, and,
  • 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:30.390
  • What?
  • 00:20:30.624 --> 00:20:31.291
  • April and june, april 1972.
  • 00:20:31.291 --> 00:20:34.227
  • And, and so, they,
  • 00:20:34.227 --> 00:20:37.931
  • And it was, fortunately there was,
  • 00:20:37.931 --> 00:20:41.435
  • You know, it just fell straight down a
  • 00:20:41.435 --> 00:20:44.137
  • And so no atmosphere over the moon.
  • 00:20:44.137 --> 00:20:46.239
  • Anyway, it fell straight up.
  • 00:20:46.239 --> 00:20:47.874
  • And i took a picture
  • 00:20:47.874 --> 00:20:49.276
  • Of the temperature on the moon was about 130°f at that time.
  • 00:20:49.276 --> 00:20:53.980
  • And the picture began to curl up really quickly, but i did.
  • 00:20:53.980 --> 00:20:57.984
  • Before it did, i got a picture of the picture.
  • 00:20:57.984 --> 00:21:00.454
  • So it's very same, famous, but it's certainly,
  • 00:21:00.454 --> 00:21:05.525
  • Very strong, momentous,
  • 00:21:05.525 --> 00:21:08.662
  • Experience on the moon.
  • 00:21:09.162 --> 00:21:10.397
  • The families really enjoyed,
  • 00:21:10.397 --> 00:21:13.266
  • Reviewing their copy of it's
  • 00:21:13.266 --> 00:21:16.002
  • In the smithsonian,
  • 00:21:16.002 --> 00:21:19.239
  • Museum somewhere.
  • 00:21:19.239 --> 00:21:21.641
  • So anyway, we had, it was a great time for our family.
  • 00:21:21.641 --> 00:21:25.812
  • Taking your family to the moon brings
  • 00:21:25.812 --> 00:21:27.381
  • A whole new definition to summer vacation.
  • 00:21:27.381 --> 00:21:30.317
  • Yeah.
  • 00:21:30.550 --> 00:21:32.152
  • It has to be exciting to you to see nasa,
  • 00:21:32.152 --> 00:21:35.188
  • Picking up where you and your team left off.
  • 00:21:35.188 --> 00:21:38.291
  • Any hope that they're going to tag you
  • 00:21:38.291 --> 00:21:40.394
  • To be a part of one of these next trips?
  • 00:21:40.394 --> 00:21:43.663
  • Well, i told them i'm still physically qualified.
  • 00:21:43.663 --> 00:21:47.134
  • I guess i pass on that supply for the school,
  • 00:21:47.134 --> 00:21:50.804
  • But i've told them i'm ready to go.
  • 00:21:50.804 --> 00:21:52.672
  • But i said, don't call us, we'll call you. so,
  • 00:21:52.672 --> 00:21:57.077
  • I'm not sitting right by the phone,
  • 00:21:57.844 --> 00:21:59.846
  • So if they need any advice,
  • 00:21:59.846 --> 00:22:01.648
  • Though, i'll be happy to participate.
  • 00:22:01.648 --> 00:22:03.617
  • But, so,
  • 00:22:03.617 --> 00:22:06.620
  • I wish them all well.
  • 00:22:06.620 --> 00:22:08.088
  • Can't wait to get back.
  • 00:22:08.088 --> 00:22:09.289
  • Especially that south pole landing down there.
  • 00:22:09.289 --> 00:22:11.892
  • It's going to be really exciting.
  • 00:22:11.892 --> 00:22:13.727
  • I think, when they eventually get there.
  • 00:22:13.727 --> 00:22:16.530
  • Well, charlie duke, it was a pleasure to have you
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  • On our program.
  • 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:19.966
  • I hope you and your wife have many enjoyable years ahead.
  • 00:22:19.966 --> 00:22:22.769
  • All the best to you, sir.
  • 00:22:22.769 --> 00:22:24.371
  • Thank you very much.
  • 00:22:24.838 --> 00:22:25.806
  • Thumbs up to. yeah, okay.
  • 00:22:25.806 --> 00:22:28.408
  • What a wonderful reminder today that no matter
  • 00:22:28.408 --> 00:22:30.510
  • Where we are in the universe, almighty god's watching over us.
  • 00:22:30.510 --> 00:22:34.347
  • Thanks for spending a few minutes of your day with us.
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  • God bless you.
  • 00:22:36.249 --> 00:22:37.083
  • Have a good evening.
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