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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Terror Ties | Allen Jackson Now | October 22, 2025

Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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I'm alan jackson.
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And for all of president trump's success, the two big opponents
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That he's yet to get on board are russia and china
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With his mideast peace deal and 30 countries there for support.
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Yes, some very powerful weapons in his toolkit.
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But to deal with a stubborn putin,
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The president is arming ukraine with america's best weapons
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And with china, he's raising the tariffs
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And bringing american businesses that set up in china
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Back to this country.
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That's in addition to some of those companies
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Moving their production
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To places better than china and easier to work with,
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Including vietnam, cambodia, thailand, the philippines, india
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And mexico.
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$230 billion worth of u.s.
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Business now out of china.
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Now, china's president xi is firing back
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With new government controls on china's rare earth metals
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And a plan to try to mess with our stock market.
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Knowing that it's something
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President trump keeps a close eye on, was that.
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I want to bring back the country's
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Premier china expert, gordon chang.
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He's the author of plan red china's project
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To destroy america.
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Welcome back, gordon.
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Thank you so much, alan.
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If president xi
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Thinks that he's going to push president trump around,
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He should listen to what the vice president said
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About trying to upset america's growth.
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But he also think that we can have a positive relationship
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With the people's republic of china,
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But not if the chinese go down this pathway
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Of cutting off the entire world
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From access to some of the goods that they produce.
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The fact
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That the people's republic of china,
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The fact that they have so much control
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Over critical supply in the united states of america,
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That is the definition of a national emergency.
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Well, president trump just solved a global emergency
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In the middle east.
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Does he know that he and putin are his next targets?
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I'm sure he, jinping, knows that, and i'm sure that he knows
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That china has been tossed
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Out of the middle east by one donald, john trump.
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So i think the chinese are looking for revenge.
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They certainly have been backing putin in the war in ukraine
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From the get go.
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China's support is all in, including chinese soldiers
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At the front.
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And president trump
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Now has got to deal with both of these bad actors.
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And he's got to impose some costs on them,
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Because i think that that's about the only way
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That he's going to move this in a better direction.
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Well, china has been indirectly funding terrorists
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In the middle east by purchasing oil from iran.
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That, of course, includes hamas, hezbollah and the houthis.
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Do you think she has any idea
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That he's now on the wrong side of history?
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Well, certainly in the middle east, yeah,
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I'm sure he knows that.
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And china has also been
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Not only indirectly financing iran's attack on israel,
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But he's also been supplying
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Weapons to those three terrorist groups
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That you just mentioned.
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So china is really all in on this as well.
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And it's not been doing very well.
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If you go back 14 months, china look like it was driving
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Events in the middle east
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July of last year,
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We had the 14 palestinian factions
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Go to the chinese capital and sign the beijing declaration.
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But with president trump coming into office
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With that triumphal tour through the three gulf states
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In may, it's just changed the dynamic completely.
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And now the chinese are out of the middle east,
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And the united states is the one determining events.
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Well, i pointed out in my introduction
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How much american business has moved to other countries
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Where it's less expensive to operate.
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With his economy weakening.
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Do you think the chinese leader
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Has any sort of strategy on how to handle the exodus?
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Well, really, what he's been doing
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Is been trying to reserve the chinese market
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For chinese enterprises, especially state owned ones.
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So, i'm sure he doesn't like the foreigners leaving,
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But it's not really something that emotionally bothers him
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Because he doesn't really want,
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Foreigners in china in the first place.
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He's had to tolerate them
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Because he's wanted the money
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In technology, but he really doesn't like them.
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No. xi jinping, he has a very different
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A wrong view of the way
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That the chinese should integrate with the world.
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But that's the way that he is.
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We'll have a
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Similar question on the very competitive global
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Side to build the most effective ai china is pushing.
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But for now, the us is ahead.
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History tells us that what they don't have, they steal.
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So from what you know, does
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China have the internal talent to win the ai fight right now?
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They've got the internal talent,
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But they don't have some of
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The other things that are critically necessary,
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Which, for instance, are the computer chips.
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Nvidia is the reason why the united states is ahead.
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But right now china thinks its only real
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Card in the ai race is rare earths.
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Because to make those nvidia chips, you need rare earths.
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China controls the processing of them.
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92% of the world's processing of rare earths occurs in china.
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So that's basically xi jinping's strategy,
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In terms of ai
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And everything else is to deny the world what it needs
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In order for these microchips and for other uses,
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For all the promise of ai.
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It's also being used to create
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A lot of fake news and other disruptive content.
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China is attacking our infrastructure 24 hours a day.
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The wall street journal reports that she thinks
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He can take a shot at president trump
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By trying to disrupt our stock markets, even though his success
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Is in large part depended on the success of america.
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Is that why you said in your book
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Title, it's a project to destroy america?
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Well, yes.
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And also
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The communist party believes it is in an existential fight
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With us.
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And it's not because of anything that we say or do, alan,
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But it's because of who we are.
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You have an insecure regime in beijing
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That's worried about the inspirational impact
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Of america's
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Values and form of governance on the chinese people.
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So we will never have amicable relations with china
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As long as the communist party rules it.
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We've got to come to that realization,
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Because if we don't, we could very much lose our country.
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You know, i know there's a lot of thought
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That goes into the book titles,
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But when you
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When you chose the title china's project to destroy america,
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I don't think americans take it that seriously.
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They may think it's an economic conflict,
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But i think it really is a threat for
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The future of our nation. is that right?
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Well, absolutely.
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You know, we view it as, you know, our struggle
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With china as one for primacy or domination.
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The chinese don't view it that way.
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They view it as a fight for survival.
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So we need to view it the same way the chinese do.
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Because we will lose, and we will lose everything
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If we do not, oppose the chinese with the determination
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And the sense of urgency that they bring to this fight.
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Well, gordon, there's a lot more to discuss.
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Will you stay with us for another segment?
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Of course. thanks so much.
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You know, we always get a lot of feedback on email
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When gordon is on, so now's your chance.
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You can log on to aj now.com and send me an email.
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We'll be right back.
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We'll be right back.
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We're back now with gordon chang.
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The comprehensive report
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On china's infiltration of our computer systems
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Showed that they're working to take control
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Of our city water systems, electric and gas companies,
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And the security systems that we've installed
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To keep our public utilities safe.
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Well, she knows that.
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We know that what he's up to.
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How could he possibly think we're going to continue
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To work with china when he's tried to take us down?
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Well, i think the answer to that is because we've continued
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To work with china, even though we've known a lot of this.
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And he's also known that for various reasons.
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We have not defended our networks
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With the determination that is necessary.
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We've left them purposefully vulnerable as a society.
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So, you know, we americans, we should, of course,
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Should be angry with the chinese for attacking our networks.
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But we should also be angry with the people that we elect
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Because they have not defended the networks.
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This has been going on for decades, allen,
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And for decades we have left these networks open.
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So this is on us.
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With the chinese economy weakening, the former
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General counsel to the us trade representative had this to say
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About the internal pressure of president g.
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China is under a lot of pressure right now.
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They're they're running into trade barriers
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From other countries as as people start to realize,
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You know, how their system works.
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They've built up
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Way too much capacity and a lot of key industries,
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And they're finding it difficult to find markets for that.
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So there's overcapacity in business and an overcapacity
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In housing and a shrinking population,
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Particularly in working age people.
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That's a bad path to be on.
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So does that help president
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Trump in his negotiations with president g.
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Oh well, it certainly does because it gives us leverage.
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Now we have unbalanced
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Much more leverage over china than china has over us.
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And we americans need to remember that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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The chinese can withhold things that we need
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Like rare earths and pharmaceuticals,
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But we can also withhold things that china needs.
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But far more important.
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We are the trade deficit country.
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Last year, our merchandise trade deficit with
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China was $295.5 billion.
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In trade wars, it's the trade surplus countries that get hurt,
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Not the trade deficit wants.
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So we've got the cards.
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It's just a question.
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Do we have
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The political will to play them to defend our society?
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So far, xi jinping has shown much more will than we have.
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President trump has given the chinese off ramps.
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They've not taken them.
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At some point,
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The white house has got to impose those costs on china.
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If we're going to have a mutuall
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You know,
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It seems to me for
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Quite some time, decades, even this push towards globalism
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Has caused americans to cultivate
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An increasingly naive attitude about the nations of the world.
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We think that if will be nice and kind and polite, everybody
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Will be nice and kind of kind and polite to us.
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That's just not an accurate
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Reflection of the world we live in.
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What's necessary for americans to wake up to the global
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Realities?
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The answer to that, unfortunately, we know.
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We know about al qaida.
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You know, al qaeda,
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They've been
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They were talking about killing americans continually.
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They actually killed six americans
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With the bombing
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Of the north tower of the world trade center in 1993.
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And we did not pay attention.
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We didn't pay attention until 911.
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So we know the answer
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To that question, and it's an unfortunate one.
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But, you know, this is the way democracies work.
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Traditionally, tocqueville talked about this.
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We also saw this with britain and france in the 1930s.
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Democracies are very slow to react to obvious threats.
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And unfortunately, that's the way to.
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That's the reason why democracies
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Get into these enormous wars, because,
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They, you know, continue to act without the determination
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That is necessary until it's too late.
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You mentioned de tocqueville, and i've clearly got a bias,
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But he acknowledged that
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It was the faith of the american people
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That enabled this experiment in self-government to work.
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It seems like we're going to have to have something
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Of a cultivation or a reemergence of that faith
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To take our place in the world.
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Are we? yes.
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You know, and clearly, the american people
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Have got to understand the emergency that we're in.
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Because the way the chinese view this, they're malicious
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And as i mentioned,
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You know, i'd like to have a mutually beneficial relationship
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With china,
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Just as i would like to have that relationship
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With every other country in the world.
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But unfortunately,
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We've got to remember the lessons
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That ronald reagan
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Taught us about the evil nature of communism.
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That's in word that we don't like using.
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We're squeamish about using it.
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But, evil is present.
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Even if one is not a christian, one should understand
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Evil is present in this world,
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And christians should especially understand it,
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Because that is central to the bible
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And the stories that we learned as children in sunday school.
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You know, evil is not a christian concept.
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That's a concept that you see by observing human behavior.
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There's there's a lot of
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Young chinese men who came across our border
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When president biden opened the gates.
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But now the drug enforcement administration is tracking down
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The fentanyl plants the chinese built and blowing up
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The raw drugs coming by boat from venezuela
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Of the chinese, done
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Anything yet to slow their shipments
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Of fentanyl to our shores, or are they just doing
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A better job of hiding how they get it here?
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Yeah, they have not slowed it from all that we can tell.
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You know, fortunately, the number of fentanyl deaths
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In the united states declined last year from 2023.
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But that's not because the chinese
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Were shipping any less of it.
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It's because we've taken measures, to, prevent deaths.
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But, you know, this is going to continue.
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And fentanyl is, you know, it's it's supply driven.
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It's not demand driven.
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The chinese say, well, this is an american problem.
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Well, no it's not.
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This is caused by the the, abundant supply of fentanyl
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And other opioids.
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So we've got to understand that this is a project
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Of the communist party to kill americans.
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So when we see and hear about people dying from fentanyl,
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Those are not overdoses, alan.
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Those are murders.
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You know, trump has scheduled a meeting with putin.
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Do you think it would be a good thing if he scheduled one
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With the chinese premier as well?
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I think we need to impose costs on china
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Before we talk to them.
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You know, we always think, well, you know, we talk to china.
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They will we'll be able to settle things.
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I think that we need to impose severe costs on china
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To give them an incentive, to deal with us.
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And unfortunately, because of the way
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The communist party views us,
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I'm not sure that there's any agreement possible.
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At this point.
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Well, gordon chang, thank you for spending time with us today.
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Always helps clear up this issue.
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Well, thank you, alan.
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I really appreciate it.
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And if you want to read more, author whose newest book
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Plan, read china's project to destroy america.
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It's available wherever books are sold.
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In a moment, there is hope.
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Even with the challenges.
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Stay with us and i'll be right back.
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Stay with us and i'll be right back.
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Our experiences together since the start of this decade
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Have been very insightful and very different
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Than any previous experiences we've had.
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We faced a pandemic.
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China, the country where it originated,
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Hid the facts from the world.
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They denied it and did their best to cover it up.
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Then we were told by influential leaders
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That if you go home
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And shelter in place for a week, we'll be okay.
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Things that we thought were absolutely trustworthy proved
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Not to be, and unfortunately, that included churches.
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I never imagined that
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If someone said churches were non-essential,
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That we would say, okay and close our doors.
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Never occurred to me that could happen until it did.
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So i have a question.
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Is christ followers here in america?
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Have we learned our lesson?
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Well, we have the courage to speak up for truth.
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Or will we stay silent in fear again?
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But are the consequences of stating
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Our beliefs have changed over time?
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We know today that if we say we're christ
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Followers and intend to live by biblical values,
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That insults and persecution are a very possible part
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Of our future.
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Charlie kirk's martyrdom is an example of that.
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He was just a 31 year old man.
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He wasn't a politician or a leader in the christian church.
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Yet he was assassinated because he took
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A biblical worldview to college campuses in nigeria.
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Our christian brothers and sisters will gather
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This weekend,
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Even in the midst of brutal persecution by boko haram,
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Because in their assessment, the church is essential.
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When we as christ followers
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See troubling events, we don't need to be afraid.
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We can't afford to have an escapist mentality.
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We must persevere because we still have
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An assignment to be salt and light.
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There are good things ahead.
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There are opportunities.
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So let's be fully engaged in doing god's work
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Everywhere we go. no matter what.
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We'll be right back
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With your emails.
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With your emails.
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Thank you for taking the time to send your emails.
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They are always a highlight for us.
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Mary e in new jersey wrote thank you for the christian
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Perspective on the crucial issues of the day.
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I watch most every night.
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I also watch your sermons online.
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Thank you mary.
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My wife says that
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My sermons are better online because she has a mute button
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I don't understand.
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David from livermore, california.
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We watched a podcast where a pastor talked
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About the jewish people.
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Why? biblically we need to support them.
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He gave a historical presentation
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About israel, palestine, the roman empire.
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It was very comprehensive.
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I'd like to share it with my friends.
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How do i find the podcast?
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Well, wherever you watch your podcast,
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You can just search for culture and christianity.
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It should be there that way.
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It's on youtube as well.
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If that doesn't work, pray.
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But that usually works pretty well.
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Greg steve from spokane valley said, thank you for inviting you
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To your recent show.
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She exemplifies the divine partnership
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That we as christians
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Have with his chosen nation of israel and her people.
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Yeah, it's been fashionable for a season now to
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To rekindle that anti-semitism, a hatred for the jewish people.
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It's been expressed in some political ways.
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It's not a healthy place.
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And i pray the church will find their voice to tell the truth.
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Greg from washington wrote,
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I especially appreciate your interviewing style,
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Always letting your guests speak their thoughts to conclusion
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Without needless interruptions.
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Well, greg, it's not complicated.
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I've figured out that i learn more
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When i listen than when i'm talking,
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Unfortunately. i talk for a living,
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So i'm trying to become a better listener.
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I thank you for spending a few minutes for with us today.
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Just a reminder, if you ever miss a live broadcast,
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You could always go to aj. now.com.
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There's a full archive there of all the programs.
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You can rewatch them. it's easy to share them with a friend.
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There's a newsletter you can sign up for.
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It'll keep you up to date with all the things
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We're doing on the program.
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You know, god is moving in the earth.
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He's opening doors for the truth to be told.
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This show is one small example of that.
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I'm grateful that there are many examples.
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Don't be filled with despair.
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Pay attention to what god is doing in the earth.
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Use your voice. be an advocate for the truth.
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Don't be discouraged if the church you attend
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Is it messaging the way you want them to?
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Just stay focused on what god is doing.
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Use the influence god has put in your life.
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I'm quite confident.
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Jesus, who's the head of the church?
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He's got this.
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And if we keep saying yes to the lord,
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We'll all get to the best possible place.
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It's an exciting time to serve the lord.
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I'm grateful we can do it together.
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Thank you for spending a few minutes of your day with us.
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And for now. good night from nashville.
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October 22, 2025 | 21:27

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