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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Threat Landscape | Allen Jackson Now | January 9, 2026
- Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- Tonight we're going to get to the bottom
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- Of something that's been disturbing to many americans.
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- The protest against the men and women
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- Who are trying to keep our cities safe,
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- And who are being
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- Literally shelled by protesters from coast to coast.
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- How can it be that well known criminals, rapists,
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- Child traffickers and dangerous murderers are being arrested
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- And sent to jail or sent back home?
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- Others come out and protest on their behalf.
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- They throw rocks at ice agents.
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- They run cars and trucks
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- Into the national guard and local police.
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- And they send cell phone alerts
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- To let the bad guys know that the good guys are coming.
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- Are the protesters actually in favor of more crime?
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- Do they want the illegal drugs spreading in our young people?
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- Are they okay with children as young as six
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- And eight being sold to sex traffickers?
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- And who's behind all of this?
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- How do they show up in such big numbers?
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- And why do their signs look so familiar from city to city?
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- And who pays for these people?
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- Well, tonight
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- We're joined by the vice president
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- And executive director of research
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- At the government accountability institute, seamus bruner.
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- Welcome back. seamus.
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- Hey, alan, it's great to see you.
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- Well, the recent
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- Shooting of the two national guard troops
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- From west virginia drove home the point about how bad things
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- Have gotten.
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- But the enemy is much bigger than those who came from
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- Afghanistan and venezuela's jails.
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- The enemy is here in many shapes and sizes,
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- With a lot of different names, but chief among them is antifa.
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- Seamus, you've done a lot of investigative
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- Reporting on this, and you were even asked
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- To give the president and other white house officials
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- A report on what you found.
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- So please start by telling us what you know about antifa
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- And what you told the white house.
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- Yeah, thank you so much.
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- So what we know about antifa, because, you know,
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- Peter schweitzer and our team, we follow the money.
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- We followed it all the way to the top of what we're calling
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- The protest industrial complex,
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- Or rioting is the shorthand we've given it.
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- And what i told
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- President trump is that, rioting is like many, corporations.
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- It has a lot of divisions.
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- It's got a legal division,
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- It's got the boots on the ground division.
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- That's the antifa.
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- But there are so many other parts of this beast,
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- That play a role in the protest industrial complex, though,
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- Like i mentioned,
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- The legal division, they've got lawyers
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- That get these rioters, these violent
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- Criminals out of jail as quickly as possible
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- And back on the streets to, perpetrate more chaos.
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- They've got a pr and media division,
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- That tells people,
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- All across the country, there's no such thing as antifa.
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- It's a figment of your imagination.
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- I mean, that's a major component in all of this, but
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- The most important part of riot inc is its investors.
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- The investors are names.
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- You've heard of people like george soros,
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- And the open society foundations.
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- But a lot of names that people haven't
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- Heard of, like the arabella
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- Funding network, the tides funding network,
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- People have heard of the rockefeller foundation.
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- They are major investors in this whole ecosystem of chaos.
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- How do groups with that much money
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- Causing this much chaos stay below the radar?
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- That's not an accident.
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- No. some of these groups have been at it for a very long time.
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- These ngos, things like the open society foundation, soros
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- Network, that's been that's been going for 50 years.
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- The rockefeller network and the carnegie, the
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- You know, these go back to the early 1900s.
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- Now, they weren't as radical back then.
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- I mean, back back when john d rockefeller
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- Set up the rockefeller foundation in 1904,
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- They were actually doing good works.
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- Libraries, schools, hospitals type stuff.
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- But generation by generation, power and money corrupts.
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- And so now we're on the fourth, fifth, sixth generation,
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- On some of these things.
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- And the children have gotten in the people running these ngos
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- Have gotten far more radical, radical left, even george soros.
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- I mean, people know that he's radical.
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- Well, his son, alex soros is even more radical than he is.
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- And that's the man who is poised to take over.
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- He's basically the heir apparent to the soros
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- Dark money empire. he's, if you can believe it.
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- Even more radical than his father.
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- So they've been doing it for a long time.
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- They've learned that
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- Staying out of
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- The headlines is best,
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- So they can do their dark schemes
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- Without all of the the accountability
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- And the transparency.
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- And so they've gotten really good at it over the years.
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- I know you've done a lot of research.
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- How many other of these loosely woven groups are there
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- Involved in causing trouble?
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- There are there are dozens if not hundreds.
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- I mean, we've got several hundred,
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- On our list of various groups now, not all of them are,
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- Assaulting law enforcement, perpetrating arson,
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- And all kinds of other mayhem and attacks.
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- You know,
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- Some of them, like the aclu and something
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- Called the national lawyers guild,
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- They're part of the what we call the legal division of rioting.
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- You know, they would say that
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- They're just doing first amendment activities.
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- But after bailing out
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- These protesters, rioters and violent criminals,
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- So many times, you have to you have to assume
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- That they know what they're doing here.
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- They're getting the violent
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- Criminals back out onto the streets.
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- And in one case, we looked at it was in atlanta.
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- It was called stop cop city.
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- In most of the vast majority of the rioters
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- And the people perpetrating
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- Mayhem, now, they were charged with domestic,
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- Domestic terrorism in that case.
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- I mean, there was weapons and assaults on law enforcement,
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- Shootings, arsons, all of that.
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- 48 out of 60 of these, people who got charged
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- Were not even from atlanta.
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- So they're getting shepherded in, shuttled around the country.
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- We know that the seattle rioters go to portland,
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- They go to chicago.
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- And it's basically a profession.
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- You know,
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- They're professional protesters
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- And they're getting paid by these investors in riot inc.
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- You know, it's not just these protesters.
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- It's also
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- A lot of democratic politicians
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- Who are supporting the protesters.
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- Is that simply trump derangement syndrome?
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- Because i can't imagine them
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- Running for reelection on more crime is good.
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- Listen to how stephen miller describes
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- What they're dealing with
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- Joe biden, the biden administration
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- The democrats have inflicted on this nation
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- The worst national security threat in our history.
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- We've never faced a threat like this.
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- 20 million people brought into our country
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- From the most failed societies on earth afghanistan,
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- Somalia, libya, iraq brought here.
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- No vetting, no conditions, no rules brought here on visas,
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- Brought here on earth as refugees.
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- Brought here is asylum, is brought here
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- As illegals, brought here in every way imaginable.
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- Now, even with the pushback in the mainstream media,
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- Do you think the american people on the whole understand
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- The importance of cleaning up this mess?
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- I think everybody
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- Understands it instinctively and deep down in their gut.
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- I think most americans just can't believe that such,
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- Lawlessness and and just chaos is intentional.
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- Unfortunately it is.
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- I mean, most good people
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- Like the people listening to this show.
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- Can't imagine
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- That there's billionaires who want to fund
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- The destruction of the country.
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- And yet they do it.
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- And so the rioting side, what we noticed,
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- After looking into this for a long time, about six months,
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- Even longer in some cases, is that the investors in riot
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- Inc are the exact same investors in what we call the,
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- The immigration industrial complex.
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- It's a huge business moving 10 million people from wherever
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- All over the world, south of the border,
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- But also somalia and everywhere else.
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- That costs a lot of money.
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- And yes, you are paying for it.
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- We taxpayers are paying for it, a lot of it.
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- But it also requires a bunch of private cash.
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- And so these same same type
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- Soros types, the arabella funding network,
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- The tides network, they invest in the same ngos
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- That, you know, that are bringing the migrants in the
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- Cities and parolees and all the different visa
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- Classes and illegals into the country.
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- And we thought, well, that's strange.
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- What's what's the, overlap there?
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- Well, when they've invested so much in bringing these people
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- In, when they see the trump administration
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- Starting to take, immigration seriously, starting to, mobilize
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- Ice and border patrol and get deportations going,
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- They they, unleash the shock troops.
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- They unleash these foot soldiers, the antifa types.
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- That's why, you see, all these protests
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- Have a very distinct anti ice flavor to them.
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- And, you know, the spoiler alert on this
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- Is that they're also the same investors, these ngos
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- And what we call the election industrial complex,
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- The get out the vote machine
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- That is eventually going to get these people.
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- And we've seen it millions of cases
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- Of all kinds of shenanigans in the elections,
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- Including getting non-citizens onto the voter rolls.
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- Even if you're
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- We're not talking about
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- Fraud here, we're also talking about apportionment,
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- Where california gets a dozen plus,
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- Us congressmen just because, they have all the non-citizens
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- They have in their country, in their, in their state.
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- You know, the progressives are trying to argue that they're
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- Protecting the first amendment, regardless of the violence.
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- Is their idea to try to show the entire country
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- Through the liberal media that the republican party
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- And president trump in particular,
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- Can't effectively govern with so much constant disruption
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- So that the idea just create
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- Action video for the shallow media.
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- Yeah.
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- And, well,
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- You know, all patriotic americans
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- And everybody watching this show, we
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- All support the first amendment right to peacefully protest.
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- We support, you know, love
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- And cherish the first amendment right to free speech.
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- And so but this is not that.
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- When you are funding criminal activity, arson,
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- Assaults on law enforcement, that is not peaceful protest,
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- That is not, you know, peaceful rights to assemble,
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- That is criminality.
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- And so when you've got these big ngos funding,
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- Arsons and riots and what president trump calls,
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- Domestic terrorism and what prosecutors
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- Have charged as domestic terrorism,
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- We've got a real criminal, conspiracy, it would appear.
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- Was it possible that these people think
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- If they get enough people involved,
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- They can start an insurrection?
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- That's what stephen miller is saying.
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- He's saying this is, this is seditious.
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- And when you see the video, you know, the
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- The famous seditious six video, where they're in court,
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- Where, you know, people like mark kelly
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- From arizona are encouraging, people within the military
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- And within the intelligence
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- Community to resist orders from president trump
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- And from the trump administration,
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- Giving no guidance as to whether, you know,
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- The orders are actually lawful or not.
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- They kind of keep it vague, intentionally.
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- So, and they say resist.
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- They don't say,
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- Go to your jag officer, if you're in the military
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- And ask if you're getting lawful orders
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- That that does seem and feel very seditious.
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- And then on top of that, you add in, all of the, activity
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- Of the either american citizen rioters or the non-citizens.
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- I mean, out in l.a.,
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- There were some earlier this year, really violent riots
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- With arsons, and they were burning the,
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- The waymo, taxi cars and all the rest,
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- These are perpetrated by non-citizens.
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- So we've got a basically an attack going on in this country.
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- Yeah.
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- Those videos suggest to the american people
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- There's something happening that's illegal.
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- It's inexcusable. shameless.
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- We need to take a short break.
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- Can you stay for another segment?
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- Absolutely.
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- I'll be right back.
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- I'll be right back.
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- We're back now with the vice president
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- Of the government accountability institute, seamus bruner.
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- Well,
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- As i mentioned, you were called
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- To the white house recently to brief the president
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- And his top staff on what you've learned.
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- Can you give us a sense of how
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- That went and what the president was most interested in?
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- Yeah, it was a surreal experience.
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- I had no idea that i'd be briefing
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- President trump
- 00:12:28.140 --> 00:12:29.174
- Until about three hours before the event itself.
- 00:12:29.174 --> 00:12:32.211
- Had 24 hour notice that i'd be going to, some,
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- Some building around the white house.
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- I didn't even know i'd be going to the white house.
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- And then i go, you know,
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- We take the prep call the morning of that day,
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- And they say, good news.
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- Caroline leavitt, press secretary, says, great news.
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- President trump's going to be there.
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- So obviously, my heart stopped for a second thought.
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- Oh, man, i better make this good.
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- And i, polished, you know, polished my notes.
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- And i was so encouraged to see that,
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- President trump and attorney general bondi, director patel,
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- Stephen miller was there, who, it was just, i think, carrying
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- So much of the load in the administration.
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- He's doing a great job.
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- Secretary noem of homeland security was there.
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- So it was a kind of a surreal experience.
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- And what was so encouraging about it
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- Is they all seem to be taking the this, very seriously.
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- You know, i've been in touch with their staff, sharing
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- All of our findings, the follow the money stuff.
- 00:13:21.894 --> 00:13:24.296
- I have to say that this is a this is a big problem.
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- The stuff we've just talked about, along with billionaires
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- Funding who they have armies of lawyers, and they hire
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- The best warriors, people who formerly worked at the doj.
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- They know exactly how to
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- To kind of
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- Walk a very fine line between legal and illegal activity.
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- So it's a tough nut to crack.
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- I mean, like many people,
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- You know, you want this to be fixed right away.
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- I understand that it takes time to, to build cases,
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- But we've seen several since the white house.
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- Event, the roundtable on antifa.
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- We've seen several arrests
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- On domestic terrorism charges of these antifa,
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- Rioters who have assaulted law enforcement.
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- You know, there's events where they, have a shot at ice,
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- You know, these these
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- These radical leftist in this culture of political
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- Violence and extremism coming from almost entirely
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- The last, especially since charlie kirk.
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- But i am encouraged
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- To see the administration taking it seriously.
- 00:14:21.954 --> 00:14:25.324
- Well, guy has made his name on following the money
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- And then coming up with facts that can't be disputed.
- 00:14:28.327 --> 00:14:31.496
- How much money is fueling this madness?
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- It's shocking.
- 00:14:35.467 --> 00:14:36.234
- Shocking amounts.
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- Alan.
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- It's, you know, it's in the billions.
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- Just on the just on the rioting side of the equation,
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- We're talking about 300 million
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- And something we haven't talked about yet.
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- And i was,
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- Telling the president trump is,
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- Your tax dollars are part of this
- 00:14:50.482 --> 00:14:52.985
- Because groups like the rockefeller foundation,
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- Even the soros open society foundations, they actually
- 00:14:55.387 --> 00:14:58.757
- Get taxpayer money now, they the grants are very vague.
- 00:14:58.757 --> 00:15:02.594
- You know, it's to to, you know, for,
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- You know, do education related activities.
- 00:15:04.696 --> 00:15:07.165
- But the money is fungible.
- 00:15:07.165 --> 00:15:08.367
- And so when you have a $30 million go into, let's say,
- 00:15:08.367 --> 00:15:11.903
- The tides network as is has come from the federal government.
- 00:15:11.903 --> 00:15:15.807
- They can take that 30 million and they can put it into
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- Whatever they want.
- 00:15:18.243 --> 00:15:18.977
- And they'll say that
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- It wasn't your taxpayer money funding this, but it freed up
- 00:15:20.245 --> 00:15:23.415
- The money that is funding this, coming from the soros types.
- 00:15:23.415 --> 00:15:27.319
- So, 300 million,
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- I'd say, is a good ballpark on just the rioting side of things.
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- But then when you get into the migrant resettlement,
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- It's all it's, well, north of $1 billion there of both private
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- And public funds.
- 00:15:39.064 --> 00:15:40.432
- And then when you get into the
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- Get out the vote in the election,
- 00:15:41.500 --> 00:15:43.835
- Meddling in the election, funding apparatus of of this,
- 00:15:43.835 --> 00:15:48.040
- This group of, financiers, it is again, north of $1 billion.
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- And these are conservative estimates.
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- These are just the, receipts that we can pretty
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- Much tie to irs form 990 filings.
- 00:15:58.350 --> 00:16:01.753
- But, the more we dig, we just keep adding more money
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- All the time,
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- Because there are just a dizzying number of groups
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- That are both involved
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- In the riots and the protests,
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- As well as the migrant resettlement
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- As well as the getting out the vote apparatus.
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- I want to be sure i understand.
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- I'm a simple guy.
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- You're saying there's billions of dollars
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- Being spent to undermine the rule of law
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- And to destabilize our government?
- 00:16:25.277 --> 00:16:28.647
- Yeah, that's absolutely right.
- 00:16:29.247 --> 00:16:31.216
- You know, there's good activities, too.
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- So i want to be fair.
- 00:16:33.285 --> 00:16:34.252
- I mean, the, the aclu will, you know,
- 00:16:34.252 --> 00:16:37.823
- I'm sure there's some good cases that they're taking up.
- 00:16:37.823 --> 00:16:39.891
- It's not that every single dollar,
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- Is going to criminality, but a large portion of it.
- 00:16:42.461 --> 00:16:46.064
- And it's really hard
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- To separate the good dollar spent from the bad dollar spent.
- 00:16:47.299 --> 00:16:50.235
- So we're using totals
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- In, amounts that these groups have at their disposal,
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- Whether they spend, you know, 90% on good activities
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- And or 90% on bad activities, that that requires
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- A deep, deep analysis, which we're doing right now.
- 00:17:01.847 --> 00:17:05.117
- Well, did the president and stephen miller
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- Seem confident that they can turn this around
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- Before it gets even more out of control?
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- Yeah.
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- Well, it was it was a great moment.
- 00:17:12.991 --> 00:17:13.992
- Secretary rubio walked into the room
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- And announced that the peace deal had been finalized.
- 00:17:16.061 --> 00:17:18.597
- He was not at the meeting the whole time,
- 00:17:18.597 --> 00:17:20.765
- But he had, come pull president trump away to sign the peace
- 00:17:20.765 --> 00:17:24.503
- Deal in the middle east, which was, really a historic moment.
- 00:17:24.503 --> 00:17:28.140
- But as, you know, secretary
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- Rubio was there, one of the reporters said,
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- That the government accountability
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- Institute's
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- Talking about the foreign money, which, by the way,
- 00:17:35.147 --> 00:17:36.448
- I and we haven't even talked about that.
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- We'll probably need a whole nother segment for that.
- 00:17:38.049 --> 00:17:40.285
- But the foreign money coming into this,
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- The reporter said, president trump, are you,
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- Willing to consider labeling antifa
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- A foreign terrorist organization?
- 00:17:48.426 --> 00:17:50.362
- And he said he and conveniently, marco rubio was there.
- 00:17:50.362 --> 00:17:53.365
- He said, marco, what do you think about that?
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- Stephen? what do you think about that?
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- Could we do that?
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- And they said, well, look into it, mr. president.
- 00:17:57.569 --> 00:17:59.604
- Not two weeks later, president trump had labeled,
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- Various branches of antifa
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- A foreign terrorist organization,
- 00:18:04.342 --> 00:18:06.411
- Which gives a lot more financial tools.
- 00:18:06.411 --> 00:18:08.580
- And i know that secretary besson at treasury is all over this.
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- They're looking in how to shut down
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- The funding streams,
- 00:18:13.785 --> 00:18:15.020
- Looking into the tax exempt status of the groups involved in
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- And funding chaos.
- 00:18:17.722 --> 00:18:18.823
- So, i'm confident
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- That the president trump and his administration
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- Are working on this night and day.
- 00:18:22.561 --> 00:18:25.363
- Well, seamus bruner, thank you for your time today.
- 00:18:25.363 --> 00:18:27.933
- Your guidance is right on target,
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- And i hope people are able to process it
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- And act on it appropriately.
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- We'll see you again soon.
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- Thank you sir, in a moment.
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- The hope that does exist through it all.
- 00:18:37.809 --> 00:18:47.004
- The hope that does exist through it all.
- 00:18:47.004 --> 00:18:50.952
- And one of the characteristics of this president's
- 00:18:51.953 --> 00:18:54.121
- Season is a dramatic increase in lawlessness.
- 00:18:54.121 --> 00:18:57.858
- It's as if we've been unchecked for so long that
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- Now we're just unwilling to submit to the rule of law.
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- Again,
- 00:19:03.631 --> 00:19:04.799
- I'd suggest to you that deception, lies,
- 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:07.101
- And a refusal to acknowledge the truth
- 00:19:07.101 --> 00:19:09.770
- Is a spiritual conflict more than it's a political one.
- 00:19:09.770 --> 00:19:13.007
- And we better wake up in this season.
- 00:19:13.007 --> 00:19:15.776
- I believe the circumstances that allow evil to flourish
- 00:19:15.776 --> 00:19:18.980
- Will also create an opportunity for the kingdom of god to grow
- 00:19:18.980 --> 00:19:22.617
- Deception, wickedness, immorality.
- 00:19:22.617 --> 00:19:24.452
- They're going to increase right alongside righteousness.
- 00:19:24.452 --> 00:19:28.289
- The spirit of god will move in dramatic ways.
- 00:19:28.289 --> 00:19:31.125
- And you and i, we're going to have to decide
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- Where to focus our attention and where to invest ourselves
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- In our current season.
- 00:19:36.497 --> 00:19:38.099
- Candidly, i don't think we'll be able
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- To sustain our faith without a heightened sense of purpose.
- 00:19:39.567 --> 00:19:42.903
- See, god created you for a unique purpose,
- 00:19:42.903 --> 00:19:46.407
- Determined to seek the lord like we have never done before.
- 00:19:46.407 --> 00:19:49.677
- We'll do that.
- 00:19:49.677 --> 00:19:50.645
- There's more reason for hope than despair.
- 00:19:50.645 --> 00:19:52.947
- I promise we'll be right back.
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- I promise we'll be right back.
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- Thank you for spending a few minutes of your day with us.
- 00:20:06.601 --> 00:20:09.270
- If you ever miss a live episode,
- 00:20:09.270 --> 00:20:10.538
- Just a reminder, you go to aj now.com.
- 00:20:10.538 --> 00:20:13.007
- There's a full archive there.
- 00:20:13.007 --> 00:20:14.242
- You can watch the programs at your leisure.
- 00:20:14.242 --> 00:20:16.511
- It's easy to share with a friend,
- 00:20:16.511 --> 00:20:18.246
- You know, in a season when there's a lot of confusion
- 00:20:18.246 --> 00:20:20.315
- And deception, a biblical worldview
- 00:20:20.315 --> 00:20:22.483
- Makes a great deal of difference.
- 00:20:22.483 --> 00:20:24.619
- Let's let's be certain we stay centered on what god is doing.
- 00:20:24.619 --> 00:20:28.256
- There's hope in that.
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- I'm alan jackson, and you have a wonderful evening.
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