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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Winning Strategy | Allen Jackson Now | August 19, 2025

Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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I'm alan jackson.
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I'm going to begin tonight the same way
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They do it on jeopardy each evening.
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Here's the answer.
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And you try to figure out the question.
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Thomas dewey, nelson
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Rockefeller, malcolm wilson and george pataki.
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Any idea what the question is?
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Hoover.
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The last four republican governors of new york.
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But you may already know that in the largely blue state
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Of new york, it's pretty hard to win a race
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If you're a republican.
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Democrats outnumber republicans nearly 2 to
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1, and the spread's even wider in new york city.
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But now the democrats are pushing
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The party further left with a socialist candidate for mayor.
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Is the 30 year, 33 year old zoran mamdani,
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Who beat out andrew cuomo and the current mayor,
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Eric adams, in the primary,
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All by running on programs
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That he wouldn't even be allowed to do.
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Free bus rides, city run grocery stores or rent freeze,
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And a lot of other things that just won't work.
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Even if he could implement them.
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Well, it's an interesting time in the big apple.
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So with that,
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I want to welcome one of the few republicans
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Who not only won new york
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But was reelected twice governor george pataki.
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It's great to see you again, sir.
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Alan, great being with you. thanks for having me on.
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Well,
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Please start by just telling us how you did it.
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You set a record,
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And we hope somebody is going to follow in your footsteps.
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Well, you know, i had to get way over a million democrats
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To actually pull the line for a republican governor.
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But i thought i could do it the whole way along.
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And it was because of issues.
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You know,
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Whether you're a republican or a democrat, you are safe.
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We did not have state streets while lower taxes.
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We had the highest in the country.
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You want the mentally ill
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Who are dangerous to be institutionalized.
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They were roaming the streets.
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So i just ran on an issue campaign,
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Based on the conservative policies that i believe in.
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And even then, believe it or not, live in new york state.
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A majority of the voters believe in that. in new york as well.
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You know,
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Politics seem to be a bit different back then.
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It was a time when the two parties would,
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At least on occasion, work together.
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Is there any chance of that happening again?
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Yeah, i think there is.
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But i'll tell you, it's just horrible to see
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What's happening in washington where,
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I the number of president trump's nominees that they
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Haven't been able to get a vote
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Because the democrats are just blocking them off
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Is unconscionable. yeah.
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Trying to extort
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$1 billion or whatever it was in order to approve nominees.
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And that's just not the american way.
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And i hope the voters take a look and say,
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We got to end this partizanship.
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It starts at the top with people like schumer and jeffries,
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Who are just,
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Doing everything they can to derail our president.
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Well, let's move to the
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Mayoral race and the sudden rise of a socialist.
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It's clear
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That joe mamdani is trying to sell
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A platform that would never work.
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Listen to how shark tank's kevin o'leary describes
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His weak spot.
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I'm not getting any policy.
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I'm one of many investors that have asked his staff
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For a meeting to get some idea on
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How he's planning to do this affordable housing thing.
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I would love to be part of that as an investor,
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But not if this rhetoric is true,
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Because you won't be able to raise any money.
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He's offering free everything.
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Well, that doesn't work in real estate.
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You have to give investors a market return.
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Governor, do you know if his supporters know or even care
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That he's selling something he can't deliver?
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No, i don't think they care.
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I think they know that the idea of free busses
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And free subways and grocery stores
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Run by the government that have never worked anywhere,
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All have is, bare shelves and, nonexistent supplies.
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It's not going to work.
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But, alan, what you said is important.
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That is
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Most of what he's trying to do or talking about, though.
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He can't.
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He wants to raise taxes.
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He can't do it. he needs albany to do that.
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He wants to change the criminal justice laws.
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He can't do that. he needs albany to do that.
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So i think the democratic party in new york city has lost
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His mind.
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You're too polite calling him a socialist.
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He's really a marxist who, tries to protect them
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For himself as a socialist
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And conveys some sense of moderation.
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But there's nothing moderate about this guy.
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I don't think,
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New york can afford him for the four months,
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Let alone four years.
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And hopefully it's still early enough that, he can be defeated.
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Well, you, sir, are in an elite club
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Of successful republicans in new york politics.
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You know, mayor bloomberg started out
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As republican, and rudy giuliani served several terms
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To democrats.
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Andrew cuomo and eric adams are still in the race
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Running as independents.
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So is there a path for the republican, curtis?
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There is.
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That's one of the things that i hope
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We see evolve in the right way over the next couple of months.
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You have two democrats and a democratic socialist,
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Really a marxist in the race.
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So they're going to split votes
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And inslee work and get his message out there.
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I think he has a chance.
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No one knows the city better.
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For 40 years,
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He led the guardian angels that when the politicians
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Couldn't do anything about crime,
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He and his volunteers went to the subways, went
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To every corner of the city, and helped keep new yorkers safe.
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So he has the right ideas and crime
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Is not going to raise taxes.
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He also has a great plan to expand housing.
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Not by giving it away for free, but by encouraging
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And intelligent, development on government owned properties
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That aren't being used.
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So, he's got the right message.
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He just has to get it out there. and,
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I think he has a shot.
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I certainly am doing my best to try to help.
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Well, we had a guest from the west
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Coast on recently who pointed out
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That californians
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Have been dealing with socialist in government for years.
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And it's one of the reasons
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Why so many people have left the state.
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That said, i'd like to ask you, are these socialist ideas
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Spreading elsewhere, or is this just another example
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Of the media latching onto something
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Just to get more clicks?
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You know, no, i think it is a real phenomenon,
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The democratic party that,
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You have the traditional liberal democrats who are now
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Being outgunned by the far left marxist socialists,
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And you see it like you saw it in california.
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You see it now in new york, and you saw it in minneapolis,
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Where they just, nominated a marxist
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Islamist, to run for, mayor of that city.
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So this is a problem within the democratic party.
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And when you have one party state, so one party cities,
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The lunatic fringe who wins the democratic primary ends
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Up not having a serious opponent in the general election.
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Which is why in states like california and new york,
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You need a two party system.
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You have to have a viable republican party,
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Because when the democratic party goes nuts,
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As they're doing in large parts of the country right
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Now, you have to have an alternative that democrats,
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Moderate democrats, conservative democrats can look at and say,
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I can't vote for my party's nominee.
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I'm voting for the republican
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Governor.
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I'm curious.
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You know,
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There was a time when the difference
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Between democrat
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And republican was about how we implemented policies,
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But there wasn't a great chasm in ideologies that separated us.
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We were bound together by our national history
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And heritage of a judeo-christian nation.
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We seem to have lost that.
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You know, how do we divide?
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You know, allen, i think in a large sense we have lost it.
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And the divide.
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You see it in new york,
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You know, the democratic left, the socialist marxists.
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You would think that's the working class
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Rising up against the capitals. it's not.
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It's the college educated young people,
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The people who went to
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Our so-called institutions of higher learning
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And learned that america is a horrible
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Country, it's a racist country, it's an exploitive country,
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And it's the college educated
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Young people who have had everything given to them,
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Through most of their lives, who are supporting the far
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Left candidates and the blue collar communities,
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The ones who ride the subway,
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The ones who have to go to work every day
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Because they can't sit on the laptop at home.
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They're the ones who are voting
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For the more conservative republican candidates.
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So i think president trump is absolutely right.
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And going after the higher education universities that are
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So bigoted and anti-semitic and anti-white in many ways,
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But has to be more
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You have to have intellectual diversity, political diversity
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Among the faculty.
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How that's going to happen, i don't know.
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But in the meantime,
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You know, i wouldn't mind it a bit
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If instead of going to harvard or yale,
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My grandkids become plumbers, electricians or carpenters,
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They'd be doing
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Something productive, and they wouldn't
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Go through those four years of brainwashing
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That are really hurting the next generation
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Of americans, helping to cause this divide.
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Amen.
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Well, governor pataki, i'd like to ask you
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About the fight in texas over the democrats
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Who have run and hidden.
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Can you stay with us for another segment?
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Sure.
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I love that fight. i'm happy to talk about it, alan.
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All right. we'll be right back.
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All right. we'll be right back.
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We're back
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Now with former new york governor george pataki.
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I'd like to get your thoughts on the fight in texas over
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Redrawing congressional districts.
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It's something both parties have done for years.
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But governor abbott says the blue states
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Can't respond now because they've already
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Gerrymandered as much as they can.
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Listen to how he describes it.
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All those big blue states they've already gerrymandered.
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Look at the map of illinois.
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Look at the map of california,
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New york and massachusetts and so many other blue states.
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They gerrymandered a long time ago.
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They got nothing left with regard to what they can do.
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Is what he said true about new york when his socialist
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New york republicans do something about it?
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He's absolutely right.
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You know, there's no question.
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And i think it's the height of irony that these texas democrats
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Fleeing the state go to, illinois and new york
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To the most gerrymandered states in america
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To oppose gerrymandering.
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If texas adopts its plan, it would create
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Five more republican leaning seats.
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It would still be less gerrymandered than illinois
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Or california.
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So this is the height of hypocrisy.
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And in new york, we had we have a democratic governor
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Welcoming these texas fugitives,
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Because they're standing up against reapportionment.
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That's unfair.
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When she twice
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Signed reapportionment laws that were declared unconstitutional
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As going to pass by the highest court
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And even having them thrown out by the court.
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The plan in places is too partizan as it exists.
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So, i mean, this is just the height of hypocrisy.
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And it's so ironic.
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They're pretending to be these high standards
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Standing up for truth and justice
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And fleeing to places that have the worst
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Gerrymandered maps in our country.
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I hope texas goes forward, gets this done.
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And we can move forward with, a more fair,
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Balanced playing field in states where texas can overcome
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Some of the hypocrisy and partizan
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Gerrymandering in illinois, california and new york.
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Well, president trump has jumped in by saying that he's
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Going to order a new census
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So that people who are here illegally won't be counted
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And won't be able to be added in
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To grow one party or the other.
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Do you think that would help?
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Well, you know, i don't know if the, the idea
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Of doing a mid-decade census makes a lot of sense.
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I'm not so sure about that, but i do think
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That people who have come here illegally, if you count them as,
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The equivalent of voters in american citizens
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Or people who have come here legally are diminishing
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The value of american citizenship.
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And that's something
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That we should all look at
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With tremendous pride, and understand that it's
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Something that we need to protect.
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We can't just ignore it
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And let millions come in from around the world
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Who don't share our values and don't respect the law,
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To, be
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Counted as part of the american political party.
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Well, president trump has accomplished
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So much already domestically and internationally,
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But he's still having trouble with russia and ukraine.
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Do you think he'll be able to stop the war there eventually?
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Well, i'll and let me say this.
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I want to give him tremendous credit for trying.
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You know that, this is a horrible thing.
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I mean, putin is an evil human being.
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He's just, the worst of the worst.
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Over a million russians have either been killed
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Or seriously wounded in his invasion of ukraine.
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And it's like he doesn't care.
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And the president is fighting hard for a ceasefire.
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And i think it's an important thing,
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Because i've been to ukraine six times since the war started
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Delivering humanitarian aid,
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And they're wonderful people just fighting
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For their independence, fighting to keep their freedom.
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And i hope the president is successful with putin.
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You never know.
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I don't think you can trust that when he lies constantly.
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But he's not going to get away with lies with president trump.
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And hopefully, he'll be able to do something
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To bring this horrible war to a close.
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Well, governor, any chance we could talk you into jumping
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Into the new york mayor's race just to save the best?
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Alan, i hate to say it,
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But first of all, i don't live in the city.
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But, of course, that doesn't matter.
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Hillary didn't live in new york.
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She ran for the senate.
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So, but no,
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I grew up on a farm hanging out in my farm.
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I love the city, but i don't tend to run from it.
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Well, those farm roots are good for character formation.
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We want to
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We want to see some of those values come back into politics.
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It would be a nice thing
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You learn the value of work, that's for sure.
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Well, i thank you for your leadership
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In the state of new york and much beyond that,
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And for spending a few minutes with us today.
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I hope you'll come back and see us
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Again when the voting begins.
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Well, thank you so much.
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Out and great being on with you.
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I appreciate the opportunity
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To try to answer these questions and, you know,
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For all the chaos, for all the fact
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That democrats have lost their mind, i'm still an optimist.
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I still believe in america and the american dream.
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We're going to be okay. amen.
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Thank you. sir.
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Well, in a moment, hope is there.
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And i'll give you the key on how to find it.
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Plus, we've got your emails to respond to.
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I'll be back with you in just a moment.
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I'll be back with you in just a moment.
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You know,
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The always shiny promise of free things.
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That seems to be the reason why there's such campaign momentum
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With the socialist candidate for mayor in new york city.
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Free busses, frozen rents, city run grocery stores.
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Mom. donnie's
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Campaign has appealed to a younger generation of voters.
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Well, it's not a complete surprise.
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Consider a recent survey by the cato institute.
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It found that 60% of new yorkers between the ages of 18
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And 29 had a favorable view of socialism.
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And what about university professors and faculty
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Who teach and indoctrinate our students?
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Now, a couple of years ago, harvard
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Conducted an internal survey that found over 80%
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Of harvard faculty self-identified as liberal.
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Just 1% of harvard faculty identified as conservative.
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You know, the same survey also found that only 6%
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Of the freshman class at harvard identified as protestant,
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While 50% identified as either atheist or agnostic.
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Well, mom, donnie's popularity reveals
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Not that socialism works, but that when society imagines
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Life without almighty god, they gravitate to ideologies
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That will ultimately prove hollow and destructive.
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How you understand resources has an enormous impact
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On our lives.
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It affects how we serve the lord.
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It affects how we interact with the world around us.
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I'd remind you a verse in second corinthians nine.
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It's verse eight.
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God is able to make all grace abound to you,
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So that in all things, at all times, having all that you
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Need, you'll abound in every good work.
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As christ followers, we can rest knowing that our future
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Is secure in our lord, not in our government.
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I would also suggest that the church
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Is going to have to become more
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Astute consumers of information.
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We're going to have to pay more attention
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To the world we're living in.
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If we're going to be effective as salt and light.
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We don't just have to capitulate to the culture.
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We have to have the courage to speak the truth.
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We are advocates for a king and the perspective of his kingdom.
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That worldview comes to us from the word of god.
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Well, we'll be right back with your emails.
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Well, we'll be right back with your emails.
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There's a full archive there of the program.
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You can watch them at your leisure.
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And thank you for taking the time to send your emails.
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They're always a highlight.
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Malcolm from south carolina emailed,
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The church needs to focus on praying for our nation.
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Pray not to be blinded by hollywood and happy
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Sappy church trials that blind them from truth.
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And pray that christians in the church
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Start looking at the heart of situations and people.
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Well mel,
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I agree,
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We need to get our bibles back out and start to read them again
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And start to follow
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The principles that are included there.
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It will change our lives, our ho
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Rockwell said on facebook,
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I speak the truth because this is a season of opportunity
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To be able to speak against lies and accusations.
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I agree, rockwell, you know, the bible puts it really plainly.
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It says liars will not inherit the kingdom of god.
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That's just not an option.
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We've got to be people of the truth,
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Even when it's uncomfortable
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Or awkward or often makes the circumstances
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We find ourselves in not the most pleasant.
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The truth is still the best path to choose.
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Sandra commented on youtube.
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Thank you for everything you and your staff
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Do to keep us informed on topics that actually matter.
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God bless you, your home and your generations.
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Pastor jackson.
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Well, sandra, it's an astute observation.
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It takes a whole team of people for us to do this.
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Many people working hard with an expertise far beyond my own.
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They just hand me the cards to read.
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I don't mess up too frequently.
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But thank you for your encouraging words.
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Mary commented on
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Youtube on the episode with alex marlow.
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The public does not have a long attention span.
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It is not okay to let it take years
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To get to the truth and justice.
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That's a ridiculous point of view.
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Only god can take his time.
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Well, you know my most consistent
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Complaint with god is over his sense of timing.
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I'm often a bit more anxious for his deliverance
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Than he seems to be in presenting it.
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But i can say he's always been faithful in my life.
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I think with our determination
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To get to the truth in our current culture,
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We're going to have to choose to love the truth
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And be committed to it.
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We've become too
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Comfortable and convenient with lies and deception.
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We've got a whole new vocabulary to excuse,
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Lying if we will repent and change our hearts.
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I believe god will continue to bring the truth to the forefront
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At the end of the day.
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He's the author of truth.
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Well, thank you for sharing a few
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Moments of your day with us.
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It's an always an honor to have that privilege.
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I'm alan jackson, and i pray you have a wonderful evening.
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