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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Xi's Goals | Allen Jackson Now | September 4, 2025

Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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I'm alan jackson.
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A lot of people tune in to the news this week
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And saw something pretty disturbing.
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It was a photo op from china that included a collection
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Of world leaders.
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Putin and ji were there, referring
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To each other as old friends.
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North korea and cuba and many more were also
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There, smiling, shaking hands.
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To what end? we don't know.
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But it's safe to assume they weren't
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Gathering to talk about how great the united states is.
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And that's despite the fact that so many of them
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Are dependent on our country.
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You know, obviously, china would have a much smaller market
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For what it produces. if it weren't for the us.
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And as for russia, that country actually buys
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More than $3 billion worth of goods from the us,
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Including medical devices, aircraft parts, food, high tech
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Equipment, the majority of which could not be found elsewhere.
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Well, putin and the
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Chinese leader would like to make people think
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That they're on the way to supplant the u.s.
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Leadership in the world, but that's just not true.
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And with that, i want to bring in this
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Country's leading expert on china, gordon chang.
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Welcome back, sir.
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Thank you so much, alan.
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What do you think the chinese leader believes
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He accomplished flexing his political and military muscle
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With a stage full of people that he calls friends.
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First thing they wanted to show to the chinese people
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That the communist party is strong
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And responsible for, as jinping says,
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The great rejuvenation of the chinese nation.
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And he also has the tagline china is unstoppable.
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But the second message is for the rest of the world
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That china is the dominant power and that the united states
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Is finished.
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The one thing we should remember is that the ancient chinese
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Military strategist, sun tzu, said,
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When we appear strong.
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And i think that's really what was in the back of xi
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Jinping's mind as he staged
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The largest military parade in communist party history.
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And so really, what we're talking about
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Is a regime that is deeply worried about events at home
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And wants to project to the world that it is
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The new superpower.
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Or pete hegseth says that it was the weak
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Biden years that helped drive china and russia together.
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Is that how he sees it, and is that
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Why he's trying to hold
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His ground against trump, who's nothing like his predecessor?
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Yeah, i think the secretary of defense
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Was right, that china and russia didn't
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Get closer together during the biden years,
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And biden had something to do with it.
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But even preceding biden's term in office,
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C jinping and vladimir putin were very close.
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It's just that we americans refused to acknowledge it.
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But putin and c jinping see the world in the same terms.
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They identify their interests more or less the same,
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And they see the same, which is the united states.
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So this is a long term problem for us.
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And we americans
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Have got to realize that we've got enemies
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And that those enemies can hurt us.
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And we need to talk about this in public in candid tones,
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Because clearly, the chinese
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And the russians and the north koreans
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And the iranians
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Are not mincing their words when they're in private.
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Well, she certainly has a lot of weapons
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And soldiers to show off by volume, at least.
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But given how dependent he is
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On the united states, what's his endgame?
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By having such a massive display for the world to see?
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I think that his endgame,
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As he sees it, is intimidating trump into submission.
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And actually,
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The chinese today think that they have accomplished that.
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I'm not saying they're right.
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I don't think they are.
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I don't think president trump is submissive,
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But the chinese think that.
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And until president trump disabuse us, jinping, of that,
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We're in trouble
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Because china's information warfare campaign is effective.
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Yes, it's narratives are absurd.
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But it is nonetheless effective.
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And president trump has the power to reach out
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And undermine those narratives in one stroke.
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But the president our president, hasn't done that yet.
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And until he does,
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This chinese narrative is going to be strong.
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Matter of fact, it was not only these hard
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Line states that were there,
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But they were countries that were friendly
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To the united states
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Or countries that we actually have an obligation to defend.
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Like turkey, president erdogan was there.
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And that's a problem for us because it shows you how
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Effective chinese propaganda can be.
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Look, the president has the ability
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With a single stroke to change the narrative.
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What stroke would you suggest that he take?
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I think that he actually
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Imposes, let's say, 25% tariffs
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Or higher tariffs on china for purchasing russian crude.
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India right now is really pissed at us for a number of reasons.
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But one of them is because on august 6th,
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The trump administration announced the imposition
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Of 25% tariffs on india for purchasing russian crude.
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Now the indians make the claim.
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Oh that's unjustified. no it's not.
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President, what president trump did was justified.
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But the indians have a point when they say it was unfair
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Because the chinese, we didn't impose those
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Same tariffs on the chinese.
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The chinese say, look,
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You didn't impose those tariffs on us.
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You're afraid of us.
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Trump needs
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To impose those tariffs more than 25% on the chinese.
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But see jinping in his place.
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Tell the chinese who's boss.
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You know, as an observer, president trump
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Doesn't seem to deal well with threats.
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So i'm wondering if the big photo
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Op is going to drive our president
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Towards this tougher deal with china.
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He's made clear what he thinks about this relationship.
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Listen to this short comedy made.
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China needs a us.
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And i have
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A very good relationship with president xi, as you know.
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But china needs us much more than we need them.
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Gordon, do you agree that china needs us
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Much more than we need them?
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And if so, what should the president do
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To stay ahead of this rather tense back and forth?
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President is right.
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China has now more,
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Export dependent than it has been
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Throughout the communist period.
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He said japan can,
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Do without america's consumer market,
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Which is about 34% of global consumer spending.
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I think president trump needs to load up the chinese
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On tariffs, really high tariffs for fentanyl, for money
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Laundering, for all sorts of things.
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These are things the president can do to show
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China that he's not afraid of the chinese.
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The other thing he can do,
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By the way, is unplug chinese banks from the dollar system,
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Because those chinese banks have been doing
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A lot of money laundering recently.
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And this is a bad story,
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Especially because some of that money laundering
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Relates to fentanyl.
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48,000 american fentanyl deaths last year.
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Alan.
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Well, the public display was impressive.
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Ji tried to make it sound
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Like the rest of the folks in the photo op are his friends.
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Iran, cuba, cambodia, vietnam, india, russia, and a lot more.
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Your most recent book is called plan red china's project
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To destroy america. are they actually friends?
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Or is this just part of his plan to destroy america?
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Yeah.
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It is part of china's plan to destroy america.
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China doesn't really have friends,
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But it does have countries
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That are willing to do china's bidding for various reasons.
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So, for instance,
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Russia would not be fighting in
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Ukraine right now were it not for china's support.
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Iran would not be able to continue its assault on
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Israel were it not for china's support.
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Cuba, certainly depends on it.
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These these countries do depend on china.
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Now, they don't like the chinese in many cases.
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They're afraid of the chinese in many cases.
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But xi jinping is able to wield coercive power
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In order to get them to do what he wants.
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And that's what's important.
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We need to take a short break.
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Gordon, can you stay with us for another segment?
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I would be honored to.
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So thank you, pastor.
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We're back now
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With china expert gordon chang, the successful
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Author of many books, including his most recent.
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It's called plan red china's project to destroy america.
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Gordon, what is it exactly about the united states that g.
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Fears?
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You know, that's a great question.
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Because china believes it is in an existential struggle
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With us.
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And it believes that not because of anything that we americans
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Say or do, but it's because of who we are.
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You have an insecure regime in beijing headed by xi jinping,
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Which is worried about the inspirational impact
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Of america's
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Values and form of governance on the chinese people.
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So the party believes
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It'll never be safe as long as the united states exists.
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And that means we will
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Never have amicable relations with china
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As long as the communist party rules it.
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So they're threatened by
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The existence of our freedom and liberty?
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Absolutely. absolutely.
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And that's why they, determined to destroy us.
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Because they realize
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That they will bend from their perspective.
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They realize that they have to get rid of, free societies.
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And the most important
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Of the free societies is the united states.
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It's the united states
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That blocks their expansive territorial ambitions.
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For instance, in the south china sea, against japan,
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Against the philippines, against taiwan, you name it.
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The united states is there to protect peace and stability.
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And that's another reason
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Why they believe that they've got to get rid of us.
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Well, i was struck by something i saw about how china prepared
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For the big summit.
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Not everyone knows how bad the pollution
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Is in china, but beijing especially.
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So authorities there ordered that no one could cook at home
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So that smoke wouldn't interfere with the parade visuals.
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So instead of bacon and scrambled eggs,
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The government handed out breakfast packs
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With hard boiled eggs, rolls in chinese pickles.
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My question is, if the
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Leadership was so concerned about the side of pollution,
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Why don't they actually do something about it?
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Given that they rank among the worst in global air quality?
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Yeah. i mean, they're obsessive.
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So, for instance,
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You know, when president trump had his military parade,
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You had the streets lined with people waving.
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And matter of fact, our soldiers waved back.
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It was a friendly atmosphere, an atmosphere of celebration.
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What we saw on september 3rd in beijing,
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There were no observers other than those
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On the reviewing stand.
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They were kept back about a block, a block and a half.
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Windows were closed.
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Businesses were told to shut, and send their employees home.
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This is a deeply insecure regime.
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And so you can see
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Why they, for instance, didn't want people to cook.
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They just did not want anything to interfere.
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Well, she is struggling with a weaker economy,
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But at the same time,
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He invited some of his closest competitors to the summit.
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Vietnam and indonesia are among those who are producing better
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And cheaper products, undermining some of the markets
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That china has held unilaterally for years.
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Do you have any idea how she's dealing
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With the competition from these other countries?
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Well, china is losing lower end manufacturing
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For a number of reasons, which gets a little bit complex.
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And vietnam,
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For instance, has been the big beneficiary of that.
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Vietnam was invited,
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I think because first of all, it's a neighbor.
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Second of all, the chinese view, the vietnamese as inferior.
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So they had to be summoned to the grand celestial court
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For the emperor's parade.
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So there was a certain amount
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Of, imperial arab mentality in that.
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And that's why you had countries in southeast asia
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Which have been used to, accepting an inferior position
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Going to beijing for that parade.
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And that is an indication of the power that china wields
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In its own region. now, these are countries
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That are deeply fearful of china.
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Vietnam and malaysia depend on the u.s.
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For their security.
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But nonetheless, they feel that when china calls,
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They got an answer.
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Well, as i
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Mentioned at the top of the show,
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The tariffs are far from settled.
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I have a sense that president trump
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Is going to come down hard on china and continue
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To try to pump up american products.
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If trump ask for your advice on what to do.
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What would you tell him?
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I would tell him to,
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Even before the end of the current
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90 day pause, which expires on november 9th.
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To say to china, look, i'm tired of you, just not dealing
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With us in good faith and impose really sky high tariffs
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And tell the chinese that if they cut off magnets
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And rare earths
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That we're going to cut off, boeing parts and services,
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We're going to make life really difficult for them.
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I think that president trump can intimidate the chinese
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Into submission
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Because the chinese are ruthlessly pragmatic,
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And they may tell us that they are, that
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Their country is unstoppable, but it's very stoppable.
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And president trump can do that.
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This is not going to be easy.
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It's not going to be something which is going to go
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Without friction.
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But at some point, we have got to show the chinese
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That we're not afraid of them, because once we do that,
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The rest of the world will sit up and take notice
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And they will see how weak china really is.
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That changes the global dynamic overnight.
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Well, before we run out of time,
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What should we be looking for as the next few months progress?
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I think the turmoil at the top of the communist
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Party is the most important developments in the world today.
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There are a lot of rumors flying around the,
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Chinese military about who controls it.
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And there are a lot of rumors about what's happening
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Among civilians in the communist party.
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We're going to find out a lot
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After the end of the communist party's, central
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Committee's fourth plenum, which is next month.
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And either all these rumors are going to go away because xi
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Jinping will still be in charge,
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Or we may see a new set of leaders in beijing.
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That, to me, is the most importa
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Well, gordon chang, your insights are extremely helpful
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To those of us without your expertise.
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And i know from our feedback that the viewers
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Faithfully watch when you're on.
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So thank you again for your time today.
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You always bring clarity.
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Well, thank you, pastor jackson.
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I very much appreciate the opportunity to talk to you.
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In a moment, the hope that exists
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Even around this complicated relationship with china.
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We'll be right back.
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We'll be right back.
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You know our experiences together.
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Since the start of this decade, they've been very insightful
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And very different than any previous experiences we've had.
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We faced a pandemic.
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China, the country where it originated,
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Hid the facts
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From the world, denied it, did their best to cover it up.
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Billions of lives affected around the earth
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Due to the virus
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And the mandated measures that were taken to try to stop
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The spread.
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And china never suffered any true consequences
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For the devastation they unleashed.
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The ukraine war was started by putin.
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It's caused
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Millions of people to endure tremendous suffering and death.
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Ballistic missiles the size of telephone
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Poles have struck apartment buildings in ukraine,
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Where only women and children live.
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Entire cities have been leveled to rubble.
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Open doors, an organization that raises awareness
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Of christian persecution around the world.
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They've ranked north korea as the number one
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Most dangerous country for christians.
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The regime considers christianity
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An existential threat.
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If a north koreans christian faith is discovered,
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It can lead to immediate execution
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Or a sentence to a labor camp, which very few survive.
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So when we see the recent
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Gathering of the leaders of these nations
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At the largest military parade the world has ever seen
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In china, it's more than a photo op.
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It's a projection of authoritarian ideology
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That practices social control and manipulation.
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Communism is not just another economic system.
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It's one of the most destructive,
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Murderous expressions of human authority in all of history.
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And the people who advocate for socialism and communism
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Today in our nation, in our biggest cities,
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They have to deny history to do so.
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And it's only our profound ignorance
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That gives them a place in the public square
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That when we see as christ
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Followers troubling events, we don't need to be afraid.
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And we really can't afford
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The luxury of just an escapist mentality.
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We must persevere because as christ followers,
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We still have an assignment to be salt and light.
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There are good things ahead.
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Jesus is still on the throne.
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There are opportunities.
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So let's be fully engaged in doing his work.
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Everywhere. we go.
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No matter what we see, if we'll do that,
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There's more reasons for hope than despair.
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I promise we'll be right back with your emails.
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I promise we'll be right back with your emails.
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Thank you for spending a few minutes of your day with us.
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It's always an honor to have this time together.
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If you ever miss it episode live,
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You can always go to aj now, dot com.
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There's a full archive there.
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You can watch the shows at your leisure.
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It makes them easy to share with the friend.
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And i thank you especially for your emails.
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They're always a highlight.
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A recent youtube viewer commented on the taya
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Kyle episode.
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Thank you pastor allen and tell you
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For this heartfelt interview. tell you.
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Thank you for sharing your profound
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And inspiring story of courage and hope.
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I've learned to be grateful
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To our lord at everything good and bad.
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We're thankful for chris's service and many
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Thanks to you today for all you do.
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May god continue to bless you and your family.
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Well, i thought his story was very encouraging.
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It reminds us that there are heroes.
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You know, there's a lot of clutter
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And chatter to the contrary.
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We've got to climb over that.
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I believe that our first first responders, our police officers,
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Our military, they truly are heroes.
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And they deserve our respect that our encouragement
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And our affirmation.
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I've got an idea
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For all those that are shouting we should defund the police.
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What if we defund the politicians?
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Let's defund all those people that hate our heroes
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And send them home
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And put our first responders and police and military
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Back on the front lines with our full support.
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That'll make our lives better.
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Judy b from palmdale wrote in.
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In one of your daily devotionals,
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You said reading the bible is not a religious chore.
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It's a privilege with a purpose.
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I love that statement.
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It would look great on a mug, t shirt or a magnet.
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Thank you again, pastor.
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You're truly a gift from god.
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Well, how about all the above mugs, t shirts and magnets?
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Here we go.
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Wayne w remarked the segment about big city crime was spot
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On. what i'm seeing
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Is the people running them are corrupt,
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And if the president sends in the military,
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They'll get exposed for their criminal activities.
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You know, the president can send
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In reinforcements for our police and first responders.
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But at the end of the day, it's
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The character of the american people
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That is being called into question.
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Well, we stand up for
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For the law to be honored and to be enforced once again,
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Or will we continue to capitulate to lawlessness?
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We have almost lost the idea that law should be enforced,
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That we should live under those boundaries.
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And so we have the courage to come back to that.
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The things that the president and his team are very willing
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People can do are just band-aids.
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We need a hard change, and if we'll do that,
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I believe we'll have a culture change.
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But without any question, god is moving in the earth.
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The truth is being spoken from the public square,
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From the white house to your house.
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Let's keep choosing the truth.
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I'm alan jackson, and i pray you have a wonderful
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Evening.
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