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Allen Jackson: Youth Response | Allen Jackson Now

September 18, 2025 | 22:12

Allen Jackson: Youth Response | Allen Jackson Now
Alex Marlow joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Youth Response | Allen Jackson Now | September 18, 2025
  • Good evening and welcome to nashville.
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  • I'm alan jackson.
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  • Charlie kirks message of truth
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  • Had been quite influential in the last several years,
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  • But it was nothing like the reach
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  • His message had this past week.
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  • Churches are reporting record numbers from this past sunday,
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  • With many reports of baptisms, bible sales
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  • And even organic prayer vigils
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  • Being held all over the united states.
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  • People young and old are inspired to carry
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  • On the torch of the gospel and standing for the truth.
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  • Over 38,000 inquiries have been made to begin new
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  • Turning point chapters at high schools
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  • And on college campuses, with more still coming in.
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  • You know, it's
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  • Not just an american outpouring around the globe.
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  • People have been honoring charlie and his mission.
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  • Young people put down their phones
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  • And picked up their bibles.
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  • Good is reigning over evil.
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  • Listen to how charlie's wife, erica described it.
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  • If you thought that my husband's mission
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  • Was powerful before,
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  • You have no idea.
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  • You have no idea what you just have
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  • Unleashed across this entire country.
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  • In this world, you have no idea.
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  • You have no idea.
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  • The fire that you have ignited within this wife.
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  • The cries of this widow
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  • Will echo around the world like a battle cry.
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  • Well, with that, i want to bring in our guest tonight.
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  • Alex marlow,
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  • The editor in chief of breitbart news
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  • And the host of the alex marlow show.
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  • Alex, millions of people are gathering
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  • And celebrating what charlie stood for today.
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  • I imagine he would be thrilled with the turning point
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  • We're witnessing.
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  • At the same time, some people are
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  • Afraid to have their voice heard.
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  • Given the hate that is also surfaced now,
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  • Do you see the majority of young people responding?
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  • Yeah, i think overall people understand that murdering people
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  • In front of their family on 4k video is not good.
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  • And so i don't think that that one,
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  • I think that god has left a lot of corners of our country.
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  • Pastor, and we need to work on getting it back in.
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  • But i don't think that people have lost
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  • A moral compass for the most part,
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  • In that they can't see that clearly.
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  • I think, unfortunately, it's not everyone,
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  • But i think as most people,
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  • I think
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  • Young people are not satisfied by the direction of the country
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  • In a lot of ways, but they certainly don't
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  • See the solution as preaching up on a roof
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  • And assassinating public speakers.
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  • And so
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  • I do think that that message,
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  • I think we've got a lot of people's attention
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  • Now that we may we might not have had in the past.
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  • People who are weeping for charlie as a man and his family,
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  • And considering maybe why was his voice so powerful
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  • That people needed it snuffed out.
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  • And i think that that is something that charlie would
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  • Charlie would be welcoming
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  • To these new people, to be open minded to his message
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  • Now that they're here.
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  • Well, i want to hear your thoughts on
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  • What's been a normalization of violence
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  • In a generation so numb that they're treating the video
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  • Clips of charlie's assassination,
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  • The stabbing video of arina, zara, jessica and
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  • The murder of the health care ceo in the streets of new york.
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  • Like movie clips or a video game.
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  • Some people are calling it an assassination culture.
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  • Well, social media just becomes an echo chamber of hate.
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  • Do we need stronger guardrails?
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  • Do you think the big tech titans will do that on their own?
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  • Yeah,
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  • The guardrails is always a tough question
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  • Because i'm a free speech person,
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  • But it's still alarming to me
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  • That the government is unaware of the threat to charlie.
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  • It seems like we're going to learn that this is premeditated
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  • For some time.
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  • And there were chats where it was fairly out
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  • In the open that this guy was plotting
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  • To assassinate my friend.
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  • And i think that that's something
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  • That we do need to have.
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  • We already have this big surveillance state.
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  • How do we miss something like this?
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  • It kind of shocks me.
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  • And in an era where there are cameras everywhere,
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  • How come we weren't able to ascertain
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  • That this guy was camped out on a roof
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  • And getting ready to shoot someone?
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  • All of that, to me, is deeply disturbing and alarming.
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  • The universities are so hostile
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  • To conservative speakers, to it's been this way.
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  • I was hosting speakers on campus 20 years ago, and violence
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  • Would routinely break out.
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  • And you're always concerned when you would a speech.
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  • There was never any
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  • High profile assassinations, but there was violence.
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  • And i was at an event with charlie,
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  • I'd say, about a year ago, and people smashed in to the
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  • To the basketball gym where he was
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  • Speaking at a state school in california.
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  • It's just one of those things where we've accepted this
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  • As normal.
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  • It is absolutely not normal, and incitement to violence
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  • Is not legal.
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  • You don't need big hate speech laws.
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  • You can't incite people to violence.
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  • And that's obviously what's happening
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  • On a lot of these corners of the internet.
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  • Well, bobby kennedy spoke about charlie
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  • At a memorial prayer vigil on sunday evening.
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  • It took place at the theater that was named for his uncle,
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  • President kennedy, who was also assassinated.
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  • Bobby was nine years old at the time.
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  • Listen to what he said about filling the void of loss
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  • In this case after the death of his younger brother.
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  • Oh, and my brother david died.
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  • I had a
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  • Conversation with my mother, who had been through more
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  • Than her share of loss and tragedy.
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  • And i said, i asked her, i said, does the hole
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  • They leave in you when they die?
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  • Does it ever get any smaller?
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  • And she said, no, it never gets any smaller.
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  • But our job is to build herself
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  • Bigger around the hole.
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  • You know, of course, bobby's mother lost her husband
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  • To a gun shot.
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  • But i think this loss of charlie
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  • Has the potential to not just build bigger
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  • Around the hole, but to spark an awakening across our nation.
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  • How do you see this playing out?
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  • I do, and i like that he incorporated this
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  • Personal story because i've done,
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  • I don't know,
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  • Maybe 50 interviews since charlie passed
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  • Because he and i were very close.
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  • And i've done my podcast and i'll tell you, i've been
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  • Able to keep public composure privately.
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  • I'm not as composed,
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  • But i've been able to keep public composure.
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  • The one time i really lose
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  • It is when i talk about things like how i got to introduce my
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  • My son, my eldest son to charlie just a couple of months ago.
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  • And it's really meaningful for us to have that moment.
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  • And that's the type of stuff that just
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  • It gets your attention because you remind you
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  • That charlie was a flesh and blood, flesh and bone man.
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  • And i think that he was an activist, and he was
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  • Occasionally said things specifically because he knew
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  • It would maximize attention
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  • And on his values and on his movement.
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  • But he was a genuinely great person,
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  • And it is just important to understand that.
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  • And that's a big part of what we talk about the him
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  • As the husband and the father,
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  • Because that will make normal people sit up and listen.
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  • And i think there's a lot of normal people
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  • Listening right now.
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  • And so hard.
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  • And i keep getting these reports
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  • Or my friends
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  • At turning point
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  • That there's tens of thousands of new requests for chapters.
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  • We're in a turning point, a chapters in,
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  • I don't know, maybe every school in america,
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  • Probably on every campus where, i'm
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  • Sorry, every continent where people live in this world.
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  • It's going to be a huge phenomenon
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  • Where people are going to
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  • Stand up not just for american values,
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  • But judeo-christian values as well,
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  • Because that was integral to charlie's message.
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  • You know, alex, i want to ask
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  • You to speculate for just a minute.
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  • We've had some disruptive episodes
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  • In recent years when covid came ashore.
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  • I was surprised at the political attitudes
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  • Of the cdc and then the ama
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  • After the october 7th attacks from hamas on israel.
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  • I was surprised at the depth of the anti-semitism in america.
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  • So here's the question.
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  • After charlie's assassination,
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  • Do you have any sense of the surprises
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  • That are awaiting us on the other side of this?
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  • Yeah,
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  • I am i'm concerned about it because unfortunately,
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  • It doesn't take a big network of people.
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  • And i think we're going to find there was some
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  • Sort of a network that was behind this individual.
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  • But it doesn't take a very big network to do irreparable damage
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  • To the fabric of our nation, the soul of our nation.
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  • And i think that that's something
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  • That we'll probably see more like this.
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  • And i think that's really unfortunate.
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  • And you brought up israel.
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  • I think it's really important
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  • That you're already seeing voices online
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  • To try to, to try to divide the conservative movement
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  • From israel, which i entirely pro zionist person.
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  • And i don't want to see that.
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  • And charlie,
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  • I think, was a pretty effective broker
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  • Between the various factions of the conservative movement,
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  • Some of which are increasingly anti-semitic and anti-israel.
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  • And he was a very powerful voice in that regard.
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  • And people are going to have to fill that void because,
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  • Our tradition of standing with israel
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  • As a conservative movement in america,
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  • Is a noble one, and it's one that we need to continue.
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  • And we're going to have some headwinds in that regard.
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  • Well, alex, there's a lot more to start to discuss.
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  • Could you stay with us for another segment?
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  • Yeah, i'd be great.
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  • And if you have some thoughts on this
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  • That you want to share with me and our viewers,
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  • You can just jump on to aj now.com and send me an email.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We're back now
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  • With alex marlow as the editor in chief of breitbart news.
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  • I couldn't help
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  • But notice that the headlines are jammed
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  • With the trials of luigi mangione,
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  • As well as the man who planned to shoot
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  • President trump on his golf course.
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  • And now, of course, tyler robinson.
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  • It's a trifecta
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  • Of human dysfunction aimed at conservatives and capitalism.
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  • Do you see any influential media trying to set a better example
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  • Instead of stoking the haters?
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  • It's very challenging, and this is something i struggle
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  • With as editor of a big website,
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  • As i always try to avoid naming these murderers, these killers,
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  • Because i do think that the more press they get, it does
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  • Inspire people with evil in their hearts
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  • To commit some of these violent acts.
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  • But then there becomes
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  • An element of it's in the public interest
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  • To keep them apprized of what's happening.
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  • And that's my obligation in my job.
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  • But it is very painful to do this,
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  • Especially when so much of the conversation
  • 00:10:04.628 --> 00:10:06.363
  • These days is dealing with senseless murder.
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  • And i believe the connective tissue here is satan.
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  • And i think we need to talk about it
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  • And satan's presence in this, in this country.
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  • I think he's here in a major way, and he's preying on people
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  • Who have
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  • Voids within their hearts and within their minds.
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  • I think people who spend a lot of time
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  • On the internet,
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  • Who have lost touch with god and are spending all
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  • Their time online.
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  • I think these people are the most vulnerable,
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  • And i think that that's why we've seen this pattern.
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  • If you take a look at what's happened,
  • 00:10:32.222 --> 00:10:34.491
  • The example that comes to mind is this shooter
  • 00:10:34.491 --> 00:10:37.594
  • Who killed children as they prayed a couple of weeks
  • 00:10:37.594 --> 00:10:40.697
  • Ago, very dark, and a person spent a lot of time online.
  • 00:10:40.697 --> 00:10:44.301
  • And it's one of these things where we need to start
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  • Identifying the root causes, and we need to start trying
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  • To discuss them in an open way and not just treat these
  • 00:10:48.739 --> 00:10:51.875
  • As tragedies. they're tragic, but they're not tragedies.
  • 00:10:51.875 --> 00:10:54.611
  • They're part of a pattern of us losing touch with god
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  • And replacing it with something far darker.
  • 00:10:57.247 --> 00:10:59.750
  • Well, you know, it's awkward,
  • 00:11:00.383 --> 00:11:01.585
  • But there's this growing expression
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  • That the trans movement is inspiring
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  • Young people towards violence.
  • 00:11:04.921 --> 00:11:06.757
  • Tyler robinson
  • 00:11:06.757 --> 00:11:07.991
  • Admitted to the assassination with his online friends, but
  • 00:11:07.991 --> 00:11:10.727
  • He also said that some hatred cannot be negotiated with.
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  • I don't think he's reflecting the thoughts of most young men,
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  • Do you?
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  • No, i don't, but this is exactly what i warned about
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  • In my writing in the past,
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  • Is that the alternative to free speech is much worse.
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  • And by much worse, i mean violence.
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  • That's the whole thing that we need to discuss.
  • 00:11:28.245 --> 00:11:30.514
  • And why america
  • 00:11:30.514 --> 00:11:31.681
  • Has been uniquely successful despite our disagreements,
  • 00:11:31.681 --> 00:11:35.085
  • Is that we do have free speech, and we don't infringe
  • 00:11:35.085 --> 00:11:38.121
  • On people's rights by jailing them or killing them.
  • 00:11:38.121 --> 00:11:41.691
  • Traditionally, we just debate them.
  • 00:11:41.691 --> 00:11:44.594
  • And that's what charlie stood for and what he was all about.
  • 00:11:44.594 --> 00:11:47.330
  • And to allow for people
  • 00:11:47.330 --> 00:11:48.598
  • To come up with this perverse idea
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  • That you can't negotiate with people
  • 00:11:50.500 --> 00:11:52.769
  • That's not american, that is anti-american
  • 00:11:52.769 --> 00:11:55.205
  • And anti-god, of course, as well.
  • 00:11:55.205 --> 00:11:56.807
  • But it's anti-american, and it's something that,
  • 00:11:56.807 --> 00:11:59.176
  • Is exactly it's interesting to see
  • 00:11:59.176 --> 00:12:03.313
  • Tyler robinson write it, because of course,
  • 00:12:03.313 --> 00:12:06.082
  • That's what he thought.
  • 00:12:06.082 --> 00:12:07.083
  • And in a way it's clarifying.
  • 00:12:07.083 --> 00:12:09.019
  • He also wrote it down.
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  • Alex, how have we carved out
  • 00:12:11.621 --> 00:12:13.156
  • Some aspects of speech to be more offensive?
  • 00:12:13.156 --> 00:12:17.027
  • You know, if i meet someone who tells me
  • 00:12:17.027 --> 00:12:18.195
  • They're agnostic, they don't believe in god.
  • 00:12:18.195 --> 00:12:19.830
  • They don't believe in church.
  • 00:12:19.830 --> 00:12:20.764
  • They think pastors are charlatans.
  • 00:12:20.764 --> 00:12:23.500
  • I don't hate them.
  • 00:12:23.500 --> 00:12:24.467
  • It's not a personal attack on me.
  • 00:12:24.467 --> 00:12:25.936
  • We have a different worldview.
  • 00:12:25.936 --> 00:12:28.138
  • And yet some of these opinions,
  • 00:12:28.138 --> 00:12:29.539
  • When they're expressed by charlie or anyone else,
  • 00:12:29.539 --> 00:12:32.209
  • They're labeled in the public square as hate speech bigotry.
  • 00:12:32.209 --> 00:12:35.679
  • You're labeled with the most heinous titles.
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  • I've some choices.
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  • Gotten this carve out for special protection.
  • 00:12:40.217 --> 00:12:43.053
  • Great question. this is a tactic.
  • 00:12:43.053 --> 00:12:45.088
  • This is a tactic that's used for political gain.
  • 00:12:45.088 --> 00:12:48.358
  • And so it's much easier to categorize
  • 00:12:48.358 --> 00:12:51.461
  • Someone as deplorable or irredeemable,
  • 00:12:51.461 --> 00:12:54.965
  • Or someone
  • 00:12:54.965 --> 00:12:56.299
  • Who's unacceptable in polite society
  • 00:12:56.299 --> 00:12:58.101
  • Because they hold a certain worldview that is easier to do
  • 00:12:58.101 --> 00:13:02.305
  • Than to debate the merits of their ideas, particularly
  • 00:13:02.305 --> 00:13:05.141
  • If you've got a guy like charlie who's
  • 00:13:05.141 --> 00:13:07.377
  • One of the best debaters of his generation.
  • 00:13:07.377 --> 00:13:09.346
  • And so that's specifically what they're doing
  • 00:13:09.346 --> 00:13:11.281
  • To try to shut us up.
  • 00:13:11.281 --> 00:13:12.682
  • They've done this to us at breitbart news,
  • 00:13:12.682 --> 00:13:14.284
  • Where they tried to take our advertisers from us.
  • 00:13:14.284 --> 00:13:16.987
  • They petitioned google so that our news stories,
  • 00:13:16.987 --> 00:13:19.489
  • Even if they were 100% accurate and original,
  • 00:13:19.489 --> 00:13:21.458
  • Won't show up in google news.
  • 00:13:21.458 --> 00:13:23.159
  • They do this because to debate with our ideas
  • 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:25.662
  • Is very dangerous for people who disagree with us,
  • 00:13:25.662 --> 00:13:27.664
  • Because our ideas are persuasive,
  • 00:13:27.664 --> 00:13:29.766
  • So they must act as though we don't exist
  • 00:13:29.766 --> 00:13:32.235
  • And try to cancel us and remove us from society
  • 00:13:32.235 --> 00:13:35.272
  • As an
  • 00:13:35.505 --> 00:13:36.439
  • Alternative, because they can't beat us,
  • 00:13:36.439 --> 00:13:37.574
  • They can't beat us on a level playing field of ideas.
  • 00:13:37.574 --> 00:13:39.876
  • So they try to silence us.
  • 00:13:39.876 --> 00:13:41.878
  • And in this case, they murder us.
  • 00:13:41.878 --> 00:13:45.115
  • Well, i want to move to something more positive.
  • 00:13:45.115 --> 00:13:47.117
  • Charlie kirk showed a lot of positive ideas.
  • 00:13:47.117 --> 00:13:49.219
  • Well, be on politics.
  • 00:13:49.219 --> 00:13:50.787
  • Listen to his thoughts on fatherhood.
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  • You need to understand
  • 00:13:52.889 --> 00:13:54.124
  • The biblical role of the father when it comes to your child.
  • 00:13:54.124 --> 00:13:57.727
  • You are tasked to protect them
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  • Both physically, spiritually and emotionally
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  • And really outside the house and obviously in other ways
  • 00:14:02.299 --> 00:14:04.968
  • As well.
  • 00:14:04.968 --> 00:14:06.169
  • Quality time is everything. you're not
  • 00:14:06.169 --> 00:14:08.104
  • Above any of the duties or the tasks of the roles.
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  • Alex.
  • 00:14:11.508 --> 00:14:12.575
  • There's a lot of missing fathers around the country
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  • And lonely children.
  • 00:14:14.210 --> 00:14:15.578
  • Do you think charlie's comments
  • 00:14:15.578 --> 00:14:16.713
  • Will resonate with some of the missing dads?
  • 00:14:16.713 --> 00:14:19.482
  • Absolutely.
  • 00:14:19.816 --> 00:14:20.784
  • And this is what i love most about charlie.
  • 00:14:20.784 --> 00:14:22.285
  • Charlie and i were i we consider as equals
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  • Politically and in terms of ideas,
  • 00:14:24.387 --> 00:14:26.823
  • And that's normally what
  • 00:14:26.823 --> 00:14:28.158
  • We would talk about in public when i was on his show.
  • 00:14:28.158 --> 00:14:30.427
  • But i always really admired charlie on faith issues,
  • 00:14:30.427 --> 00:14:33.797
  • And i really loved how he began to incorporate family values,
  • 00:14:33.797 --> 00:14:37.701
  • The traditional values, in into his messaging to young people.
  • 00:14:37.701 --> 00:14:42.472
  • Because i'll tell you, as someone
  • 00:14:42.472 --> 00:14:45.075
  • Who's a father of four children, that the my satisfaction
  • 00:14:45.075 --> 00:14:49.879
  • In life, the meaning of my life is derived from the family
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  • More than from work and not only from family.
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  • Work is incredibly important to me.
  • 00:14:56.119 --> 00:14:57.687
  • I am very blessed.
  • 00:14:57.687 --> 00:14:58.888
  • I get to fill my days with a lot of meaningful work
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  • Speaking to people like you, pastor,
  • 00:15:01.925 --> 00:15:03.626
  • But i'll tell you that at the end of my life,
  • 00:15:03.626 --> 00:15:07.097
  • What i'm going to look back on
  • 00:15:07.097 --> 00:15:08.298
  • And be most proud of for sure is are my children, my family,
  • 00:15:08.298 --> 00:15:12.002
  • And giving that message to young man that that is the goal.
  • 00:15:12.002 --> 00:15:15.438
  • That is how you win the game
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  • And all these good things come from it.
  • 00:15:17.307 --> 00:15:20.210
  • I think that was something that was so essential
  • 00:15:20.210 --> 00:15:22.245
  • To charlie's messaging in the last few months
  • 00:15:22.245 --> 00:15:25.382
  • And years of his life, and something
  • 00:15:25.382 --> 00:15:26.783
  • We cannot lose touch with that and only focus on the political.
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  • Well, alex marlowe, thank you for the truth.
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  • You tell a bride
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  • And for spending a few minutes with us today.
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  • Thank you pastor. appreciate you.
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  • Hope to see you again soon.
  • 00:15:37.961 --> 00:15:39.295
  • And in a moment
  • 00:15:39.295 --> 00:15:40.296
  • I'll share my thoughts on the light that shines
  • 00:15:40.296 --> 00:15:42.165
  • Through this very challenging time.
  • 00:15:42.165 --> 00:15:44.467
  • I'll be right back.
  • 00:15:44.467 --> 00:15:52.001
  • I'll be right back.
  • 00:15:52.001 --> 00:15:55.950
  • Charlie kirk was a friend.
  • 00:15:56.518 --> 00:15:58.086
  • I've had the opportunity to sit with him
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  • To do presentations with him.
  • 00:15:59.721 --> 00:16:01.456
  • We've shared platforms.
  • 00:16:01.456 --> 00:16:03.291
  • His death is personal.
  • 00:16:03.291 --> 00:16:05.427
  • Charlie was a young man with a young family.
  • 00:16:05.427 --> 00:16:07.729
  • He was a christian.
  • 00:16:07.729 --> 00:16:08.630
  • He was involved in politics.
  • 00:16:08.630 --> 00:16:10.799
  • He wasn't an elected politician.
  • 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:12.534
  • He didn't hold a government job.
  • 00:16:12.534 --> 00:16:14.436
  • He wasn't a minister serving a congregation.
  • 00:16:14.436 --> 00:16:17.439
  • He was simply a citizen, a christ follower.
  • 00:16:17.439 --> 00:16:20.341
  • Now, i don't believe either of those choices are wrong
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  • Or inappropriate.
  • 00:16:23.278 --> 00:16:24.612
  • In fact, i believe his christ followers
  • 00:16:24.612 --> 00:16:26.347
  • There are necessary for our well-being.
  • 00:16:26.347 --> 00:16:29.451
  • I believe to be involved in our nation, in the activities
  • 00:16:29.451 --> 00:16:32.120
  • As citizens, and to be very public with our faith.
  • 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:35.323
  • There are necessary expressions and responsibilities
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  • For every one of us.
  • 00:16:38.660 --> 00:16:40.628
  • We must not change our message
  • 00:16:40.628 --> 00:16:42.397
  • Because we're threatened or bullied or intimidated.
  • 00:16:42.397 --> 00:16:45.400
  • We just can't afford to do that.
  • 00:16:45.400 --> 00:16:47.569
  • Charlie kirk was hunted and killed,
  • 00:16:47.569 --> 00:16:50.538
  • And i don't understand it to be a political assassination.
  • 00:16:50.538 --> 00:16:53.808
  • You know,
  • 00:16:53.808 --> 00:16:54.976
  • We have a very diverse menu of political perspectives
  • 00:16:54.976 --> 00:16:56.277
  • In our nation, and that's okay with me.
  • 00:16:56.277 --> 00:16:57.846
  • I think it's pretty healthy, honestly.
  • 00:16:57.846 --> 00:16:59.881
  • The leading candidate currently
  • 00:16:59.881 --> 00:17:01.316
  • For mayor of new york city is a gleeful communist.
  • 00:17:01.316 --> 00:17:05.086
  • It's all right if that's their choice
  • 00:17:05.086 --> 00:17:06.521
  • For governance in their city.
  • 00:17:06.521 --> 00:17:08.022
  • God bless them.
  • 00:17:08.022 --> 00:17:09.624
  • That diverse spectrum is a part of who we are as a people,
  • 00:17:09.624 --> 00:17:12.794
  • And it always has been.
  • 00:17:12.794 --> 00:17:14.963
  • I believe what
  • 00:17:15.296 --> 00:17:16.364
  • Brought the angst to charlie was his willingness
  • 00:17:16.364 --> 00:17:19.033
  • To advocate clearly for a biblical worldview.
  • 00:17:19.033 --> 00:17:21.736
  • Biblical perspectives
  • 00:17:21.736 --> 00:17:23.071
  • On cultural issues like marriage, human sexuality.
  • 00:17:23.071 --> 00:17:27.142
  • The culture is increasingly intolerant of those views.
  • 00:17:27.142 --> 00:17:31.312
  • It's uncomfortable to say it, but the reality is charlie
  • 00:17:31.312 --> 00:17:34.115
  • Is a christian martyr in america in the 21st century.
  • 00:17:34.115 --> 00:17:38.553
  • That should be a call to prayer for all of us.
  • 00:17:38.553 --> 00:17:40.855
  • And i want to make a suggestion.
  • 00:17:40.855 --> 00:17:42.457
  • Let's begin by praying for charlie's family.
  • 00:17:42.457 --> 00:17:44.993
  • Then let's pray for turning point usa.
  • 00:17:44.993 --> 00:17:47.629
  • And then let's pray for our nation.
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  • If we will pray, god will respond.
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  • And there's reason for hope.
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  • I'll be back in just a moment with your emails.
  • 00:17:54.435 --> 00:18:04.004
  • I'll be back in just a moment with your emails.
  • 00:18:04.004 --> 00:18:07.655
  • Thank you for taking the time to send us your emails.
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  • There always a highlight on the program.
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  • Russ, from michigan noted, my wife and i try and
  • 00:18:13.227 --> 00:18:16.463
  • Watch your show, a.j.
  • 00:18:16.463 --> 00:18:17.498
  • Now every weeknight,
  • 00:18:17.498 --> 00:18:19.166
  • And i'm thrilled to hear a pastor
  • 00:18:19.166 --> 00:18:20.834
  • Not be afraid to speak the truth about what
  • 00:18:20.834 --> 00:18:22.870
  • The church and so-called christians are not doing.
  • 00:18:22.870 --> 00:18:25.606
  • The misinterpretation of the separation of church and state,
  • 00:18:25.606 --> 00:18:28.876
  • And pastors being afraid to speak truth
  • 00:18:28.876 --> 00:18:30.811
  • From the pulpit because of the corrupt political
  • 00:18:30.811 --> 00:18:33.013
  • Financial powers, threaten them with lawsuits
  • 00:18:33.013 --> 00:18:36.016
  • And possibly removing their church's tax exempt status.
  • 00:18:36.016 --> 00:18:39.653
  • Well, roger, i appreciate the encouragement,
  • 00:18:39.653 --> 00:18:41.355
  • But i think the primary fear
  • 00:18:41.355 --> 00:18:43.090
  • Is from angry people in the churches in front of them.
  • 00:18:43.090 --> 00:18:46.060
  • If we all use our voices in our churches
  • 00:18:46.894 --> 00:18:49.196
  • With our friends and our coworkers,
  • 00:18:49.196 --> 00:18:50.831
  • With our boards and administrative groups,
  • 00:18:50.831 --> 00:18:53.200
  • I think we'll find that pastors
  • 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:54.969
  • Have the courage to tell the truth.
  • 00:18:54.969 --> 00:18:56.971
  • Perhaps they should be willing to lose their jobs
  • 00:18:56.971 --> 00:18:58.772
  • And all their friends to tell the truth.
  • 00:18:58.772 --> 00:19:00.774
  • But that's a high bar, and people are reluctant to do that.
  • 00:19:00.774 --> 00:19:03.911
  • If we will use our voices.
  • 00:19:03.911 --> 00:19:05.646
  • Courage will grow around us.
  • 00:19:05.646 --> 00:19:08.215
  • Elizabeth, from atlanta, georgia, said,
  • 00:19:08.215 --> 00:19:09.850
  • I try to watch a.j. now episodes often.
  • 00:19:09.850 --> 00:19:12.586
  • Some of my views are different.
  • 00:19:12.586 --> 00:19:14.321
  • Nonetheless, i always revert to scripture
  • 00:19:14.321 --> 00:19:16.223
  • When differences are discussed.
  • 00:19:16.223 --> 00:19:17.858
  • It's reassuring to hear christian teachings
  • 00:19:17.858 --> 00:19:19.693
  • And viewpoints on issues concerning our nation.
  • 00:19:19.693 --> 00:19:22.196
  • Plus, we get insight on prayer points
  • 00:19:22.196 --> 00:19:23.931
  • For our land and neighboring countries.
  • 00:19:23.931 --> 00:19:25.633
  • Warmest regards for god's glory only and always.
  • 00:19:25.633 --> 00:19:29.703
  • Elizabeth, i think differing opinions are pretty good,
  • 00:19:29.703 --> 00:19:32.006
  • And i'm a big fan of going to the scripture
  • 00:19:32.006 --> 00:19:34.508
  • To sort out what we really believe.
  • 00:19:34.508 --> 00:19:36.410
  • My goal is not to get you to agree with me.
  • 00:19:36.410 --> 00:19:38.279
  • I'm not always right.
  • 00:19:38.279 --> 00:19:39.780
  • I don't even always agree with myself.
  • 00:19:39.780 --> 00:19:41.782
  • But in god's word, we do have a reliable source
  • 00:19:41.782 --> 00:19:44.618
  • For interpreting the world we live in.
  • 00:19:44.618 --> 00:19:46.820
  • Thanks for the reminder.
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  • Sue came from iowa, wrote in.
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  • Thanks again for all you do
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  • And thank you for your honest reporting.
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  • Your program helps me to see that through god.
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  • We can imagine what is possible
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  • Instead of what seems impossible.
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  • So i agree with you.
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  • Every time
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  • I take the time to allow god's thoughts into my heart.
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  • It redefines what the future can be.
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  • I tend to be far more aware of my limits and my frailties
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  • And my lack of resources or understanding.
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  • God's not limited in any of those ways.
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  • If we all learn to trust him more fully,
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  • He will write the future that's best for everyone of us.
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  • And that should be a reason for hope for our as individuals,
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  • As families, for our whole nation.
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  • Well, i'm alan jackson.
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  • I want to thank you for spending
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  • A few minutes of your day with us,
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  • And i pray that you have a wonderful evening.
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