Allen Jackson interviews Doctor Alveda King, the niece of Martin Luther King Jr., on the eve of the presidential inauguration. They discuss the importance of unity, forgiveness, and love in a divided nation. Alveda shares her personal experiences of overcoming challenges and offers wisdom on how to promote the pro-life movement. She reminds listeners of the power of prayer and the need to seek God's guidance in the days ahead. The episode ends with a reminder to read the Gospels and to share the message of hope and joy with others.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Doctor Alveda King: Healing a Divided Nation | Allen Jackson Now | January 17, 2025
- Good evening.
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- I'm alan jackson, and i
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- Welcome those of you who are at home to nashville.
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- A very warm welcome on our set here to doctor alveda king.
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- Welcome, welcome. and thank you.
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- I'm glad to be here.
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- And i accept your warm welcome.
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- Well, it is an honor for you to be here.
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- I want to thank you for making the trip.
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- The inaugural is just a few days away,
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- And so is the day that honors your uncle, doctor martin luther
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- King jr.
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- We're honored to have you here with us.
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- But i'll take just a moment and set the stage
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- For what's unfolding around us in these next few days.
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- It's a pretty important season
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- In our nation, and i pray for our future.
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- Ever since november the 5th,
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- There have been celebrations on the right
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- And a lot of finger pointing on the left.
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- I'm quite certain you have been privy to that.
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- The president elect is already putting out
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- A very ambitious agenda.
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- Sometimes i think he does that just to draw the fire away
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- From those people he's appointed,
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- So they can be busy with the jobs that they have.
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- We'll see how all of that plays out.
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- Part of it can be done with a simple signature.
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- There's a lot of promises
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- Around inauguration day and that first day in office.
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- So i think our prayers are as important as executive orders.
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- So i hope you haven't stopped praying for the administration
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- And all of those who are headed to washington.
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- There are others that are going to need the help of congress,
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- And that's not simple.
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- There's a very tight margin, one vote in the house,
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- Which means those people are elected to work on our
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- Behalf, are actually going to have to cooperate.
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- That will take the power of god.
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- We haven't seen that in a long time.
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- We the people, we can make them all work for our benefit.
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- But it starts in our hearts with our willingness to change.
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- Folks, changes are coming from washington
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- Until it starts within us, at our homes,
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- Around our kitchen tables, in our family circles.
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- If we do that, washington will be different.
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- But before we talk about how washington should work,
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- I want to ask you.
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- You lost your father shortly after your wedding.
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- You lost your uncle.
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- I know you had lost your grandmother as well.
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- You had
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- Three family members, including your father, murdered.
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- That's more than any individual or any family
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- Should have to overcome.
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- And yet you have a remarkable joy.
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- How have you done that?
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- Interestingly enough, especially as we go into this
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- Particular weekend, we are half way through january now.
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- Of course, and i think we lay president carter to rest.
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- And president carter
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- And my grandfather were very, very close.
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- They worked together on race relations, except each other,
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- As brothers, as members of the one black human race.
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- And so my grandfather, if he were here today,
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- He would say, make it plain.
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- And he'd also say, thank god for what we have left.
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- That's something i think about as i grew up.
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- Raised by baptist preachers,
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- My uncle, reverend doctor martin luther king jr.
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- Talked about the love of god.
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- My daddy, reverend
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- Eddie king, forgiveness and the miracles of god.
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- And so i learned forgiveness and all of that.
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- And i'm thinking
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- About this particular season in america especially.
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- And i think about when peripherals collide.
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- Convergence is imminent.
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- You've got carta laid to rest martin luther king's birthday
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- On the same day,
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- Just a couple of several hours from now,
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- On the inauguration day.
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- You have all of that, and then you have the march for life.
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- How could all of that occur at one time?
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- And yet, i still keep remembering
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- The voices of those who have gone on before me.
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- Thank god for what we have left.
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- Pray for those who are in authority.
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- Forgive so that god can forgive you.
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- And that's going to be very important.
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- I think, over the next few days. allen.
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- I really believe that.
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- Yeah, i agree with you.
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- I've had the privilege of hearing
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- You make presentations several times,
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- And one that really captured my attention is
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- You have made a very eloquent point
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- That we're far more alike than we are different.
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- How can you let those listening hear that?
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- There's a scripture in the spirit.
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- There's no male and female, no bond or free,
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- Only christ all in all.
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- And so there's a song that came out
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- Maybe last year or something two years ago.
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- I honestly, i think we just need jesus,
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- A little girl with singing that young lady.
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- And so people need the lord.
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- You might be familiar with that song as well.
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- So that's what we have in common.
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- The need for a savior, jesus christ is sheer black power,
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- Holy spirit, and a loving and forgiving father.
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- That's something that every human being
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- Has in common with every other human being.
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- Well, your uncle made the famous speech
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- On the mall in washington about i have a dream.
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- And he didn't get to live that lived to see that
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- Expressed in our nation.
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- Right.
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- But you've carried that torch forward and remind all of us.
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- It seems to me, whenever you have just
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- A small opportunity, that unity is important, right?
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- That we have to find the ways
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- To work together and not be divided.
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- What's the heart of that message?
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- What do you want to say to this generation?
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- We call this message all hands on deck right now.
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- That's what i'm saying to people.
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- It comes from john 17 that they all may be one.
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- Even fathers, you and i are one,
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- And that the world will know us by our love.
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- And so that all hands on deck message is so very important.
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- It's not easy to do, because often
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- We think about our insults and our injuries
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- And what we believe people owe us.
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- However, it's hard to remember and believe
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- That jesus actually canceled all those debts.
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- That's one line
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- And the i have a dream speech that people forget.
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- Martin luther king junior said, i have a dream.
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- It's rooted in the american dream,
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- Which gives us a thought that maybe he was a patriarch.
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- And a lot of people say, oh, no, king was this.
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- King was that.
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- He did honestly believe that we are one blood
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- And one human race.
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- X 1726 my father, david, my grandfather,
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- I've been raised that way.
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- And so right now, in this century and just days
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- Before and inauguration, i know inauguration.
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- How can we come together
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- As brothers and sisters and not perish as folds?
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- You said one blood, one human race.
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- Can you elaborate on that just a bit?
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- I'd like to in the bible.
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- As you read it, you'll see that
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- There was a man named noah and mrs.
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- Noah with three sons, ham, shem, and japheth.
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- And out of that particular bloodline,
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- You could go all the way back to adam and eve,
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- Of course, but you could go right through that.
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- So we have ethnicities.
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- That's very important.
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- And god puts us on different places
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- And different families around the globe.
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- But we are one blood and one human race.
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- Science actually agrees with that truth.
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- And so we are fighting sometimes.
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- And i say, i'm your sister.
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- You're my brother. you're my sister.
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- We're going to have to get this right.
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- And that's biological and spiritual, actually.
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- They both go together.
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- That's good preaching. thank you.
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- You have had a very rich life,
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- Certainly with activities and influence.
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- But sometimes you've had a lot and sometimes you've had
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- A lot less, right?
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- But it doesn't seem to have deterred you.
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- And through all of those seasons and all the things
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- You've had to overcome and the hate that's expressed
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- Towards you in the past and even today,
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- Not everybody loves your opinions. yeah.
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- Tell us a little bit of how you're sharing your ministry
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- And making an impact these days.
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- One thing that did happen to me, and it was so amazing
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- Politically and politics is around this down here.
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- The kingdom of god is so far above it.
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- I understand that i've been a democrat elected to office.
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- I've been an independent.
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- I've been given positions by two republican presiden.
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- All of this.
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- I've lived in many parts of the political realm,
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- And yet i have learned that it's important to learn
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- To get together, no matter where we are with that.
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- That's a lesson that i had to learn the hard way.
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- And i have been abased and about.
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- I've lived very, very well.
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- There have been times in my life
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- By my own choices that i was without.
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- Almost like the prodigal son.
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- And so when i got back home, i was glad to be back home.
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- Praise the lord.
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- I'm at home in jesus today
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- And i've had some hard times and some hard lessons.
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- However, we need to move forward.
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- I always do further and further into our relationship with god.
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- Believing in jesus christ as my lord and savior.
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- Relying on the holy spirit and accepting
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- God as my father by that blood sacrifice.
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- That's important.
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- That's such an important message.
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- If you're not familiar with doctor king, doctor
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- Martin luther king, jr.
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- S speech the i have a dream speech.
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- You need to go to rabbi google and he will unveil that for you.
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- That's a message we can't afford to give up in our nation.
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- We're going to take a short break.
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- It's a good time to write us an email,
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- And you can share your thoughts with alveda,
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- And we'll get them to her.
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- The address is comments at allen jackson now.com.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We'll be right back.
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- Well, we're back now with doctor alveda king.
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- You've lived through good times in a few challenges.
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- Regardless of that, there's a spirit about you
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- That is always filled with hope and joy.
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- I've never seen you when that wasn't present and obvious.
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- Whether it was in a small setting or a large room.
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- Can you tell us how you do that?
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- Many, many times i think about pleasant times in my life.
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- I'll think about some of the experiences with my family.
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- And as i'm talking right now, because
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- Like i say, we're kind of in some tumultuous times.
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- And my father, my grandfather and my uncle
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- Had waves of lightning.
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- Things were sort of jokes.
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- So i thought about one particular story,
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- And they would call these out a brother. brother?
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- Yeah, brother.
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- Yeah.
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- We say today. yeah, bro.
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- But back then it was brother.
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- So they said, brother,
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- The pig, the cow and the lamb.
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- We're going to a meeting and they had to cater
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- That meeting and all of them had to bring a sacrifice.
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- So the cow says, okay, i'll bring some milk.
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- The sheep says, the lamb says, i'm sorry.
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- I'll bring, you know, some of my coat and share that.
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- And the pig looked at both of them.
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- Okay.
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- Milk? yeah.
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- Your coat? yeah.
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- It says, but it's going to take a little skin from me, you see.
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- And so how far are we willing
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- To go with the sacrifices that are required
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- During these times?
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- What serious sacrifices?
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- Forgiveness, repentance and forgiveness.
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- Are we able to go past that?
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- Triggers sometimes when i see the image
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- Of my uncle martin luther king junior, i hear his words.
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- I remember so many things.
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- Not only the hope and the joy, but some of the pain.
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- Can i lay aside the hurt?
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- Can i remember that i've been taught to forgive.
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- So that i can stand up and say to my brother, sister,
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- And walk with my brother or sister?
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- That is very hard to do, but it is possible to do.
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- But we have to practice that.
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- Yeah.
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- That's so important that i don't want to move
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- Past it too quickly, because the idea is simple,
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- But the implementation of that takes tremendous strength
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- And determination when there's a real hurt to actually say,
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- I forgive to release that sense that i'm owed something, right?
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- That doesn't come easily.
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- But you have to fix your face, your heart, your intention.
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- I have decided to follow jesus.
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- No turning back.
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- And in the face of whatever comes to you,
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- We have to be ready.
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- No, just in your own life.
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- You're a man of the word.
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- You read your bible,
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- You encourage your congregation to do that.
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- And your viewers and your listeners,
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- When we read that word, it can't just be words on a book.
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- We have to apply it.
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- We have to practice it.
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- We have to do it.
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- And that's be doers of the word and not just hearers.
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- And that we have to be taught.
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- We have to be encouraged and we have to do it every day.
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- Absolutely. okay.
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- I want to change directions a little bit.
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- I know you have been a very powerful,
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- Persistent voice for the pro-life movement.
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- While the dobbs
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- Decision overturned roe after 50 years.
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- The abortion pill has become even more widely available.
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- Some abortion centers have been shut down, and mr.
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- Trump may well cut money
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- For planned parenthood's abortion centers.
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- What do you think can be done to get young women
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- To keep their babies?
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- Our greatest success in the pro-life
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- Movement has been, and for me, since 1983,
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- When i became a born again christian.
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- At that same time, i became very pro-life.
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- I had abortions myself,
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- Miscarries because of damage done to my body.
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- I repented of all of that.
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- But the most successful strategy,
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- And i've said it to so many women and men,
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- That's why i have so many children and grandchildren.
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- Don't abort the child. i'll be there.
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- I'll help you. we will help you.
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- So we have discovered that families,
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- Especially mothers and women, need love, not abortions.
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- So the most successful strategy.
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- You don't have to live like that.
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- You don't have to abort your child.
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- I'm here, we are here, and we're going to help you.
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- So when you say give the word, let's choose life.
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- We're not supposed to abort babies.
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- We certainly are not.
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- What's the alternative?
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- What's the other opportunity?
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- Give that opportunity every time.
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- Unwavering.
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- And we find that that's a very successful plan.
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- There's a lot of wisdom in that.
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- Thank you. thank you.
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- Before you go, is there
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- Anything you'd like to share as we move into this new season?
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- We have fresh leadership in our nation's capital.
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- At least they're headed that way.
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- Just a few hours from now. yes.
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- There's a beautiful scripture praying for those
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- Who are in authority that we may have a peaceful life.
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- It doesn't say pray for democrats
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- And republicans and independents,
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- Muslims, jews, christians.
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- John 316 does not say, for god so loved the world, except
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- It's not rich.
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- And so we have to with hope,
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- With repentance and forgiveness, with great expectation,
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- And move forward into these next days
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- Expecting god to hear.
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- Second chronicles 714.
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- He promised he would.
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- If we turn from stand and seek his face,
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- He'll hear from heaven, and he will heal this land.
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- Absolutely.
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- Well, i hope you have a great time at the inaugural
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- And all the parties that are around there are.
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- Parties but deep.
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- And my god, ball gowns as bags is a sword.
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- The sword of the spirit. i pulled it. out.
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- The sword of the spirit. we will be clear. the spirit.
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- I don't wanna get you. up there with the bible.
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- Let's be very clear. not a gun.
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- Not a sword.
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- You know, peter found out
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- That there was a more excellent way to.
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- After he cut the guard's ear off of thing, so.
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- No, the word of god.
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- But before you go, would you stay for one more short segment?
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- I've got something in mind. sure will.
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- Very good. yeah. we'll be right back.
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- Very good. yeah. we'll be right back.
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- Well, peter, i've asked you this question before,
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- But i want our audience
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- To get to hear your answer, or at least your perspective now.
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- You have had to overcome a lot.
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- You lost your grandmother, your uncle, and your father.
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- A king
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- To hatred and murder.
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- I wonder if they could see our nation today.
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- What do you think they would have to say to us?
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- They had a powerful message when they were here.
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- But do you think they would say now?
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- Very often, when i wonder
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- What someone who has gone on beyond would say,
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- I go back to their own words and i read their words.
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- And when their words align with the bible,
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- I know that they would say that same thing again today.
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- One of the greatest examples, of course, is evangelist
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- Billy graham.
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- And i say, if he were here today, what would you say?
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- I go get one of his speeches?
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- And if i want to know what my dad would say,
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- I'll listen to one of his sermons or my grandfather,
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- My uncle, reverend doctor martin luther king jr.
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- Had many speeches, and yet he had many sermons.
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- So i go to his own sermons, and he often would speak
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- Out of the word of god. and
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- His own
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- Salvation experience, which happened
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- Later in his young life.
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- He said he had come in from one of the marches.
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- I think he was in montgomery.
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- His home had been threatened, his family had been threatened.
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- And he said, i heard the voice of jesus say, martin
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- Luther, stand up for truth and up for justice.
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- And lo,
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- I will never leave you even until the ends of the earth.
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- He talked about his own experience with god.
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- So i believe if he were here today, he would still encourage
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- Us to pray, to forgive, to read us by our bibles.
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- He would do that.
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- My dad, my grandfather, my grandmother, my mom, any of us.
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- And they would encourage us to stand strong in the faith,
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- To confer
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- No longer with flesh and blood, get the job done at all cost.
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- And because they were imperfect men and women,
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- Those who have gone on before me, they love them, depended
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- On the lord. they were repentant.
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- They were forgiving, and they were loving.
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- And he just say, love your neighbor as yourself.
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- That's an important message.
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- Well, you have been invited to washington for the inaugural,
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- Not just as a witness, but to participate.
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- May you go with god's blessing and ours as well.
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- I will do it, sir. it's an honor to have you.
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- I hope you'll come back again. i will.
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- God bless you. god bless you. okay.
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- I'll be back with a final word.
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- Just a moment.
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- Just a moment.
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- Doctor alveda king was with us
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- Just a few weeks ago on our program,
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- And i have some emails you said in response to that.
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- Al from texas says just a note to share a heartfelt
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- Thanks for having alveda king on your show.
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- Her beautiful spirit was refreshing
- 00:19:25.325 --> 00:19:27.227
- Breath of hope and joy in our land.
- 00:19:27.227 --> 00:19:29.630
- Her memories of mlk faith reminded me
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- That we cannot be racist when we are committed
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- To loving the human race which god created in his image.
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- Amen. and god bless.
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- That's wisdom for all of us.
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- If we all remember, we have a creator to whom
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- We will answer.
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- It will help us overcome
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- All those things that would bring division.
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- And ron from michigan, he said, i watch every broadcast of
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- Alan jackson now that i dvd alan jackson ministries.
- 00:19:52.085 --> 00:19:56.256
- Your interview of alveda king was in fact a sermon, which i'm
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- Going to include with your own messages in my dvd library.
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- Ron, i agree with you.
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- She preached the preacher and every time i've been with her.
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- Her wisdom is truly remarkable.
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- I commend you for having the discernment to recognize that
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- I've been invited you to read your gospels with us
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- As we begin this new year.
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- I hope you've joined us in
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- That about 10 or 15 minutes a day,
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- And you can read through the whole new testament.
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- I'm sorry, through all four gospels in about 60 days.
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- Invite a friend to make that journey with you.
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- And just a quick reminder if you miss our program live,
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- You can see it
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- Every evening that today's episode on our youtube channel.
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- You go to youtube, there's an archive there
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- Of all these broadcast.
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