Doctor Alveda King: Healing a Divided Nation | Allen Jackson Now

January 17, 2025 | 20:56

Allen Jackson interviews Doctor Alveda King, the niece of Martin Luther King Jr., on the eve of the presidential inauguration. They discuss the importance of unity, forgiveness, and love in a divided nation. Alveda shares her personal experiences of overcoming challenges and offers wisdom on how to promote the pro-life movement. She reminds listeners of the power of prayer and the need to seek God's guidance in the days ahead. The episode ends with a reminder to read the Gospels and to share the message of hope and joy with others.

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Allen Jackson NOW | Doctor Alveda King: Healing a Divided Nation | Allen Jackson Now | January 17, 2025
  • Good evening.
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  • I'm alan jackson, and i
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  • Welcome those of you who are at home to nashville.
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  • A very warm welcome on our set here to doctor alveda king.
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  • Welcome, welcome. and thank you.
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  • I'm glad to be here.
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  • And i accept your warm welcome.
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  • Well, it is an honor for you to be here.
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  • I want to thank you for making the trip.
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  • The inaugural is just a few days away,
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  • And so is the day that honors your uncle, doctor martin luther
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  • King jr.
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  • We're honored to have you here with us.
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  • But i'll take just a moment and set the stage
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  • For what's unfolding around us in these next few days.
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  • It's a pretty important season
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  • In our nation, and i pray for our future.
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  • Ever since november the 5th,
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  • There have been celebrations on the right
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  • And a lot of finger pointing on the left.
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  • I'm quite certain you have been privy to that.
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  • The president elect is already putting out
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  • A very ambitious agenda.
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  • Sometimes i think he does that just to draw the fire away
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  • From those people he's appointed,
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  • So they can be busy with the jobs that they have.
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  • We'll see how all of that plays out.
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  • Part of it can be done with a simple signature.
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  • There's a lot of promises
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  • Around inauguration day and that first day in office.
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  • So i think our prayers are as important as executive orders.
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  • So i hope you haven't stopped praying for the administration
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  • And all of those who are headed to washington.
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  • There are others that are going to need the help of congress,
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  • And that's not simple.
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  • There's a very tight margin, one vote in the house,
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  • Which means those people are elected to work on our
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  • Behalf, are actually going to have to cooperate.
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  • That will take the power of god.
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  • We haven't seen that in a long time.
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  • We the people, we can make them all work for our benefit.
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  • But it starts in our hearts with our willingness to change.
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  • Folks, changes are coming from washington
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  • Until it starts within us, at our homes,
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  • Around our kitchen tables, in our family circles.
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  • If we do that, washington will be different.
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  • But before we talk about how washington should work,
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  • I want to ask you.
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  • You lost your father shortly after your wedding.
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  • You lost your uncle.
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  • I know you had lost your grandmother as well.
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  • You had
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  • Three family members, including your father, murdered.
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  • That's more than any individual or any family
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  • Should have to overcome.
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  • And yet you have a remarkable joy.
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  • How have you done that?
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  • Interestingly enough, especially as we go into this
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  • Particular weekend, we are half way through january now.
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  • Of course, and i think we lay president carter to rest.
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  • And president carter
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  • And my grandfather were very, very close.
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  • They worked together on race relations, except each other,
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  • As brothers, as members of the one black human race.
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  • And so my grandfather, if he were here today,
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  • He would say, make it plain.
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  • And he'd also say, thank god for what we have left.
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  • That's something i think about as i grew up.
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  • Raised by baptist preachers,
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  • My uncle, reverend doctor martin luther king jr.
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  • Talked about the love of god.
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  • My daddy, reverend
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  • Eddie king, forgiveness and the miracles of god.
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  • And so i learned forgiveness and all of that.
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  • And i'm thinking
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  • About this particular season in america especially.
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  • And i think about when peripherals collide.
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  • Convergence is imminent.
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  • You've got carta laid to rest martin luther king's birthday
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  • On the same day,
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  • Just a couple of several hours from now,
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  • On the inauguration day.
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  • You have all of that, and then you have the march for life.
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  • How could all of that occur at one time?
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  • And yet, i still keep remembering
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  • The voices of those who have gone on before me.
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  • Thank god for what we have left.
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  • Pray for those who are in authority.
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  • Forgive so that god can forgive you.
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  • And that's going to be very important.
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  • I think, over the next few days. allen.
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  • I really believe that.
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  • Yeah, i agree with you.
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  • I've had the privilege of hearing
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  • You make presentations several times,
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  • And one that really captured my attention is
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  • You have made a very eloquent point
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  • That we're far more alike than we are different.
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  • How can you let those listening hear that?
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  • There's a scripture in the spirit.
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  • There's no male and female, no bond or free,
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  • Only christ all in all.
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  • And so there's a song that came out
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  • Maybe last year or something two years ago.
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  • I honestly, i think we just need jesus,
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  • A little girl with singing that young lady.
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  • And so people need the lord.
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  • You might be familiar with that song as well.
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  • So that's what we have in common.
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  • The need for a savior, jesus christ is sheer black power,
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  • Holy spirit, and a loving and forgiving father.
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  • That's something that every human being
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  • Has in common with every other human being.
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  • Well, your uncle made the famous speech
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  • On the mall in washington about i have a dream.
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  • And he didn't get to live that lived to see that
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  • Expressed in our nation.
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  • Right.
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  • But you've carried that torch forward and remind all of us.
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  • It seems to me, whenever you have just
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  • A small opportunity, that unity is important, right?
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  • That we have to find the ways
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  • To work together and not be divided.
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  • What's the heart of that message?
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  • What do you want to say to this generation?
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  • We call this message all hands on deck right now.
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  • That's what i'm saying to people.
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  • It comes from john 17 that they all may be one.
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  • Even fathers, you and i are one,
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  • And that the world will know us by our love.
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  • And so that all hands on deck message is so very important.
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  • It's not easy to do, because often
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  • We think about our insults and our injuries
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  • And what we believe people owe us.
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  • However, it's hard to remember and believe
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  • That jesus actually canceled all those debts.
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  • That's one line
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  • And the i have a dream speech that people forget.
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  • Martin luther king junior said, i have a dream.
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  • It's rooted in the american dream,
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  • Which gives us a thought that maybe he was a patriarch.
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  • And a lot of people say, oh, no, king was this.
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  • King was that.
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  • He did honestly believe that we are one blood
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  • And one human race.
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  • X 1726 my father, david, my grandfather,
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  • I've been raised that way.
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  • And so right now, in this century and just days
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  • Before and inauguration, i know inauguration.
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  • How can we come together
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  • As brothers and sisters and not perish as folds?
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  • You said one blood, one human race.
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  • Can you elaborate on that just a bit?
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  • I'd like to in the bible.
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  • As you read it, you'll see that
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  • There was a man named noah and mrs.
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  • Noah with three sons, ham, shem, and japheth.
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  • And out of that particular bloodline,
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  • You could go all the way back to adam and eve,
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  • Of course, but you could go right through that.
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  • So we have ethnicities.
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  • That's very important.
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  • And god puts us on different places
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  • And different families around the globe.
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  • But we are one blood and one human race.
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  • Science actually agrees with that truth.
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  • And so we are fighting sometimes.
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  • And i say, i'm your sister.
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  • You're my brother. you're my sister.
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  • We're going to have to get this right.
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  • And that's biological and spiritual, actually.
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  • They both go together.
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  • That's good preaching. thank you.
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  • You have had a very rich life,
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  • Certainly with activities and influence.
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  • But sometimes you've had a lot and sometimes you've had
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  • A lot less, right?
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  • But it doesn't seem to have deterred you.
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  • And through all of those seasons and all the things
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  • You've had to overcome and the hate that's expressed
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  • Towards you in the past and even today,
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  • Not everybody loves your opinions. yeah.
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  • Tell us a little bit of how you're sharing your ministry
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  • And making an impact these days.
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  • One thing that did happen to me, and it was so amazing
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  • Politically and politics is around this down here.
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  • The kingdom of god is so far above it.
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  • I understand that i've been a democrat elected to office.
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  • I've been an independent.
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  • I've been given positions by two republican presiden.
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  • All of this.
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  • I've lived in many parts of the political realm,
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  • And yet i have learned that it's important to learn
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  • To get together, no matter where we are with that.
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  • That's a lesson that i had to learn the hard way.
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  • And i have been abased and about.
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  • I've lived very, very well.
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  • There have been times in my life
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  • By my own choices that i was without.
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  • Almost like the prodigal son.
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  • And so when i got back home, i was glad to be back home.
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  • Praise the lord.
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  • I'm at home in jesus today
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  • And i've had some hard times and some hard lessons.
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  • However, we need to move forward.
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  • I always do further and further into our relationship with god.
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  • Believing in jesus christ as my lord and savior.
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  • Relying on the holy spirit and accepting
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  • God as my father by that blood sacrifice.
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  • That's important.
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  • That's such an important message.
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  • If you're not familiar with doctor king, doctor
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  • Martin luther king, jr.
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  • S speech the i have a dream speech.
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  • You need to go to rabbi google and he will unveil that for you.
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  • That's a message we can't afford to give up in our nation.
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  • We're going to take a short break.
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  • It's a good time to write us an email,
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  • And you can share your thoughts with alveda,
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  • And we'll get them to her.
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  • The address is comments at allen jackson now.com.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • Well, we're back now with doctor alveda king.
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  • You've lived through good times in a few challenges.
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  • Regardless of that, there's a spirit about you
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  • That is always filled with hope and joy.
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  • I've never seen you when that wasn't present and obvious.
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  • Whether it was in a small setting or a large room.
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  • Can you tell us how you do that?
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  • Many, many times i think about pleasant times in my life.
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  • I'll think about some of the experiences with my family.
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  • And as i'm talking right now, because
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  • Like i say, we're kind of in some tumultuous times.
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  • And my father, my grandfather and my uncle
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  • Had waves of lightning.
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  • Things were sort of jokes.
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  • So i thought about one particular story,
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  • And they would call these out a brother. brother?
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  • Yeah, brother.
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  • Yeah.
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  • We say today. yeah, bro.
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  • But back then it was brother.
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  • So they said, brother,
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  • The pig, the cow and the lamb.
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  • We're going to a meeting and they had to cater
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  • That meeting and all of them had to bring a sacrifice.
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  • So the cow says, okay, i'll bring some milk.
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  • The sheep says, the lamb says, i'm sorry.
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  • I'll bring, you know, some of my coat and share that.
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  • And the pig looked at both of them.
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  • Okay.
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  • Milk? yeah.
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  • Your coat? yeah.
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  • It says, but it's going to take a little skin from me, you see.
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  • And so how far are we willing
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  • To go with the sacrifices that are required
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  • During these times?
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  • What serious sacrifices?
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  • Forgiveness, repentance and forgiveness.
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  • Are we able to go past that?
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  • Triggers sometimes when i see the image
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  • Of my uncle martin luther king junior, i hear his words.
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  • I remember so many things.
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  • Not only the hope and the joy, but some of the pain.
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  • Can i lay aside the hurt?
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  • Can i remember that i've been taught to forgive.
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  • So that i can stand up and say to my brother, sister,
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  • And walk with my brother or sister?
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  • That is very hard to do, but it is possible to do.
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  • But we have to practice that.
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  • Yeah.
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  • That's so important that i don't want to move
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  • Past it too quickly, because the idea is simple,
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  • But the implementation of that takes tremendous strength
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  • And determination when there's a real hurt to actually say,
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  • I forgive to release that sense that i'm owed something, right?
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  • That doesn't come easily.
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  • But you have to fix your face, your heart, your intention.
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  • I have decided to follow jesus.
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  • No turning back.
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  • And in the face of whatever comes to you,
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  • We have to be ready.
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  • No, just in your own life.
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  • You're a man of the word.
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  • You read your bible,
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  • You encourage your congregation to do that.
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  • And your viewers and your listeners,
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  • When we read that word, it can't just be words on a book.
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  • We have to apply it.
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  • We have to practice it.
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  • We have to do it.
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  • And that's be doers of the word and not just hearers.
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  • And that we have to be taught.
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  • We have to be encouraged and we have to do it every day.
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  • Absolutely. okay.
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  • I want to change directions a little bit.
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  • I know you have been a very powerful,
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  • Persistent voice for the pro-life movement.
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  • While the dobbs
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  • Decision overturned roe after 50 years.
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  • The abortion pill has become even more widely available.
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  • Some abortion centers have been shut down, and mr.
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  • Trump may well cut money
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  • For planned parenthood's abortion centers.
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  • What do you think can be done to get young women
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  • To keep their babies?
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  • Our greatest success in the pro-life
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  • Movement has been, and for me, since 1983,
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  • When i became a born again christian.
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  • At that same time, i became very pro-life.
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  • I had abortions myself,
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  • Miscarries because of damage done to my body.
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  • I repented of all of that.
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  • But the most successful strategy,
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  • And i've said it to so many women and men,
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  • That's why i have so many children and grandchildren.
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  • Don't abort the child. i'll be there.
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  • I'll help you. we will help you.
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  • So we have discovered that families,
  • 00:14:04.739 --> 00:14:08.043
  • Especially mothers and women, need love, not abortions.
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  • So the most successful strategy.
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  • You don't have to live like that.
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  • You don't have to abort your child.
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  • I'm here, we are here, and we're going to help you.
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  • So when you say give the word, let's choose life.
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  • We're not supposed to abort babies.
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  • We certainly are not.
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  • What's the alternative?
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  • What's the other opportunity?
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  • Give that opportunity every time.
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  • Unwavering.
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  • And we find that that's a very successful plan.
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  • There's a lot of wisdom in that.
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  • Thank you. thank you.
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  • Before you go, is there
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  • Anything you'd like to share as we move into this new season?
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  • We have fresh leadership in our nation's capital.
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  • At least they're headed that way.
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  • Just a few hours from now. yes.
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  • There's a beautiful scripture praying for those
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  • Who are in authority that we may have a peaceful life.
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  • It doesn't say pray for democrats
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  • And republicans and independents,
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  • Muslims, jews, christians.
  • 00:15:07.235 --> 00:15:08.870
  • John 316 does not say, for god so loved the world, except
  • 00:15:08.870 --> 00:15:13.575
  • It's not rich.
  • 00:15:13.908 --> 00:15:15.477
  • And so we have to with hope,
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  • With repentance and forgiveness, with great expectation,
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  • And move forward into these next days
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  • Expecting god to hear.
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  • Second chronicles 714.
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  • He promised he would.
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  • If we turn from stand and seek his face,
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  • He'll hear from heaven, and he will heal this land.
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  • Absolutely.
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  • Well, i hope you have a great time at the inaugural
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  • And all the parties that are around there are.
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  • Parties but deep.
  • 00:15:46.674 --> 00:15:48.209
  • And my god, ball gowns as bags is a sword.
  • 00:15:48.209 --> 00:15:53.348
  • The sword of the spirit. i pulled it. out.
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  • The sword of the spirit. we will be clear. the spirit.
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  • I don't wanna get you. up there with the bible.
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  • Let's be very clear. not a gun.
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  • Not a sword.
  • 00:16:02.190 --> 00:16:03.591
  • You know, peter found out
  • 00:16:03.591 --> 00:16:05.026
  • That there was a more excellent way to.
  • 00:16:05.026 --> 00:16:06.961
  • After he cut the guard's ear off of thing, so.
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  • No, the word of god.
  • 00:16:09.631 --> 00:16:12.834
  • But before you go, would you stay for one more short segment?
  • 00:16:12.834 --> 00:16:15.537
  • I've got something in mind. sure will.
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  • Very good. yeah. we'll be right back.
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  • Very good. yeah. we'll be right back.
  • 00:16:27.006 --> 00:16:28.516
  • Well, peter, i've asked you this question before,
  • 00:16:29.517 --> 00:16:31.453
  • But i want our audience
  • 00:16:31.453 --> 00:16:32.654
  • To get to hear your answer, or at least your perspective now.
  • 00:16:32.654 --> 00:16:35.924
  • You have had to overcome a lot.
  • 00:16:35.924 --> 00:16:37.158
  • You lost your grandmother, your uncle, and your father.
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  • A king
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  • To hatred and murder.
  • 00:16:41.996 --> 00:16:44.599
  • I wonder if they could see our nation today.
  • 00:16:44.599 --> 00:16:48.736
  • What do you think they would have to say to us?
  • 00:16:48.736 --> 00:16:50.505
  • They had a powerful message when they were here.
  • 00:16:50.505 --> 00:16:53.208
  • But do you think they would say now?
  • 00:16:53.208 --> 00:16:55.777
  • Very often, when i wonder
  • 00:16:55.777 --> 00:16:58.413
  • What someone who has gone on beyond would say,
  • 00:16:58.413 --> 00:17:01.950
  • I go back to their own words and i read their words.
  • 00:17:01.950 --> 00:17:05.787
  • And when their words align with the bible,
  • 00:17:05.787 --> 00:17:08.423
  • I know that they would say that same thing again today.
  • 00:17:08.423 --> 00:17:11.960
  • One of the greatest examples, of course, is evangelist
  • 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:15.130
  • Billy graham.
  • 00:17:15.130 --> 00:17:16.264
  • And i say, if he were here today, what would you say?
  • 00:17:16.264 --> 00:17:17.565
  • I go get one of his speeches?
  • 00:17:17.565 --> 00:17:19.701
  • And if i want to know what my dad would say,
  • 00:17:19.701 --> 00:17:21.970
  • I'll listen to one of his sermons or my grandfather,
  • 00:17:21.970 --> 00:17:25.140
  • My uncle, reverend doctor martin luther king jr.
  • 00:17:25.140 --> 00:17:27.275
  • Had many speeches, and yet he had many sermons.
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  • So i go to his own sermons, and he often would speak
  • 00:17:30.945 --> 00:17:35.717
  • Out of the word of god. and
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  • His own
  • 00:17:38.153 --> 00:17:39.020
  • Salvation experience, which happened
  • 00:17:39.020 --> 00:17:42.190
  • Later in his young life.
  • 00:17:42.190 --> 00:17:44.792
  • He said he had come in from one of the marches.
  • 00:17:44.792 --> 00:17:47.295
  • I think he was in montgomery.
  • 00:17:47.295 --> 00:17:49.063
  • His home had been threatened, his family had been threatened.
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  • And he said, i heard the voice of jesus say, martin
  • 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.871
  • Luther, stand up for truth and up for justice.
  • 00:17:56.871 --> 00:18:00.141
  • And lo,
  • 00:18:00.375 --> 00:18:01.576
  • I will never leave you even until the ends of the earth.
  • 00:18:01.576 --> 00:18:04.112
  • He talked about his own experience with god.
  • 00:18:04.112 --> 00:18:07.182
  • So i believe if he were here today, he would still encourage
  • 00:18:07.182 --> 00:18:10.418
  • Us to pray, to forgive, to read us by our bibles.
  • 00:18:10.418 --> 00:18:14.088
  • He would do that.
  • 00:18:14.088 --> 00:18:15.323
  • My dad, my grandfather, my grandmother, my mom, any of us.
  • 00:18:15.323 --> 00:18:18.860
  • And they would encourage us to stand strong in the faith,
  • 00:18:18.860 --> 00:18:23.164
  • To confer
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  • No longer with flesh and blood, get the job done at all cost.
  • 00:18:24.432 --> 00:18:28.670
  • And because they were imperfect men and women,
  • 00:18:28.670 --> 00:18:32.373
  • Those who have gone on before me, they love them, depended
  • 00:18:32.373 --> 00:18:36.010
  • On the lord. they were repentant.
  • 00:18:36.010 --> 00:18:38.279
  • They were forgiving, and they were loving.
  • 00:18:38.279 --> 00:18:41.015
  • And he just say, love your neighbor as yourself.
  • 00:18:41.015 --> 00:18:45.019
  • That's an important message.
  • 00:18:45.620 --> 00:18:47.355
  • Well, you have been invited to washington for the inaugural,
  • 00:18:47.355 --> 00:18:50.325
  • Not just as a witness, but to participate.
  • 00:18:50.325 --> 00:18:53.328
  • May you go with god's blessing and ours as well.
  • 00:18:53.328 --> 00:18:56.064
  • I will do it, sir. it's an honor to have you.
  • 00:18:56.064 --> 00:18:58.233
  • I hope you'll come back again. i will.
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  • God bless you. god bless you. okay.
  • 00:18:59.701 --> 00:19:02.537
  • I'll be back with a final word.
  • 00:19:03.171 --> 00:19:05.173
  • Just a moment.
  • 00:19:05.173 --> 00:19:08.005
  • Just a moment.
  • 00:19:08.005 --> 00:19:12.512
  • Doctor alveda king was with us
  • 00:19:13.113 --> 00:19:14.648
  • Just a few weeks ago on our program,
  • 00:19:14.648 --> 00:19:16.617
  • And i have some emails you said in response to that.
  • 00:19:16.617 --> 00:19:19.786
  • Al from texas says just a note to share a heartfelt
  • 00:19:19.786 --> 00:19:22.623
  • Thanks for having alveda king on your show.
  • 00:19:22.623 --> 00:19:25.325
  • Her beautiful spirit was refreshing
  • 00:19:25.325 --> 00:19:27.227
  • Breath of hope and joy in our land.
  • 00:19:27.227 --> 00:19:29.630
  • Her memories of mlk faith reminded me
  • 00:19:29.630 --> 00:19:32.199
  • That we cannot be racist when we are committed
  • 00:19:32.199 --> 00:19:34.434
  • To loving the human race which god created in his image.
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  • Amen. and god bless.
  • 00:19:38.372 --> 00:19:40.274
  • That's wisdom for all of us.
  • 00:19:40.274 --> 00:19:42.409
  • If we all remember, we have a creator to whom
  • 00:19:42.409 --> 00:19:44.745
  • We will answer.
  • 00:19:44.745 --> 00:19:45.912
  • It will help us overcome
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  • All those things that would bring division.
  • 00:19:47.281 --> 00:19:49.716
  • And ron from michigan, he said, i watch every broadcast of
  • 00:19:49.716 --> 00:19:52.085
  • Alan jackson now that i dvd alan jackson ministries.
  • 00:19:52.085 --> 00:19:56.256
  • Your interview of alveda king was in fact a sermon, which i'm
  • 00:19:56.256 --> 00:19:58.892
  • Going to include with your own messages in my dvd library.
  • 00:19:58.892 --> 00:20:02.896
  • Ron, i agree with you.
  • 00:20:02.896 --> 00:20:04.131
  • She preached the preacher and every time i've been with her.
  • 00:20:04.131 --> 00:20:07.834
  • Her wisdom is truly remarkable.
  • 00:20:07.834 --> 00:20:10.504
  • I commend you for having the discernment to recognize that
  • 00:20:10.504 --> 00:20:14.908
  • I've been invited you to read your gospels with us
  • 00:20:14.908 --> 00:20:16.910
  • As we begin this new year.
  • 00:20:16.910 --> 00:20:18.712
  • I hope you've joined us in
  • 00:20:18.712 --> 00:20:19.846
  • That about 10 or 15 minutes a day,
  • 00:20:19.846 --> 00:20:21.615
  • And you can read through the whole new testament.
  • 00:20:21.615 --> 00:20:24.017
  • I'm sorry, through all four gospels in about 60 days.
  • 00:20:24.017 --> 00:20:27.654
  • Invite a friend to make that journey with you.
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  • And just a quick reminder if you miss our program live,
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  • You can see it
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  • Every evening that today's episode on our youtube channel.
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  • You go to youtube, there's an archive there
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  • Of all these broadcast.
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