Veteran reporter Doug McKelway and host Allen Jackson delve into the shocking events unfolding in the country. From a terror attack in New Orleans to the impact of an open border policy, they navigate the complexities of trust, media integrity, and the need for truth in a divided nation. As they uncover hidden agendas and grapple with the consequences, they are determined to shed light on the pressing issues facing America and find a way to rebuild trust in its institutions.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Doug McKelway: Uncovering America's Hidden Crises | Allen Jackson Now | January 2, 2025
- Well.
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- Good evening, i'm alan jackson, and welcome to nashville.
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- Right here in our studio, we get to welcome back
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- The veteran reporter and anchor man, doug mcelroy.
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- Doug and i first met when he was hosting
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- Tv and centerpoint show, and i was his guest.
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- Well, i have to say, there are still days
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- Where i think it was better
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- When he was the one asking the questions.
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- Doug, you've been covering issues
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- On a national level for a long time now,
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- And we're always grateful for the insight that you bring.
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- We've got a lot to discuss today.
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- Thanks for coming
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- Back to nashville.
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- Oh, it's great to see you.
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- I hope you had a great christmas.
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- We had a great christmas. wonderful.
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- You know, i was determined
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- To begin this year with a focus on good news.
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- In fact, i wrote a good news journal to share with friends
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- And people in the congregation and beyond,
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- Determined to celebrate the good things happening.
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- When i woke up yesterday
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- Morning to the news of a terror event in new orleans,
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- I had a visceral response to the news reporting.
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- The first thing i heard
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- The fbi say was, this is not a terror event.
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- Never mind the fact that there's an isis
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- Flag on the back of the pickup truck.
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- You know, i'm pretty certain that if the kkk had been spray
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- Painted across the
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- Tailgate of that truck, they wouldn't have begun
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- By saying this isn't a racist event,
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- Then i was reminded that in spite of the determination
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- To find the good things happening around us,
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- We have a breach of trust in our nation
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- That has to be rebuilt.
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- If we're going to find a better way forward,
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- We're going to have to learn
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- To trust
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- Some institutions that are essential to our well-being.
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- The fbi, i think, is a part of that.
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- And i don't know what will come with the new administration
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- And new leadership, but a part of what has to happen
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- For us to get to a healthier places,
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- We have to trust them again.
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- You know, we still don't have the report on the shooting
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- In butler, pennsylvania, when, president elect trump was shot.
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- We don't really have an adequate explanation
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- Of what happened in las vegas with that mass shooting.
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- We had a shooting at a school in nashville
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- Where there was a written manifesto
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- That's never been released to the public,
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- And the list goes on.
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- So there is trust to be rebuilt.
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- The legacy media, the people we trust to tell us the truth,
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- They've spent the last 3 or 4 years
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- Either underreporting or ignoring,
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- Or try to convince us that the president's health
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- Wasn't failing, no matter what we could see with our own eyes.
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- Well, all of that seemed to bubble
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- To the top in me yesterday
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- When i heard the report that this is a terrorism.
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- We don't know what the outcome will be.
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- I'm sure it'll take days and weeks before
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- All of that news comes to the forefront.
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- But i want to begin this year.
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- I'm still watching. i'm still listening.
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- I'm still thinking.
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- And from that, i pray we can begin to reconstruct
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- Trust in these institutions
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- That are essential to our well-being.
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- We can't afford to be divided politically, folks.
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- We have to have a confidence that we can tell one another
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- The truth, even when we disagree on ideological issues.
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- That's my prayer for this year,
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- And i couldn't think of
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- Anybody better than doug to help us start this.
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- So we'll begin with the shock that took place in new orleans
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- On new year's day.
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- It was an inexplicable way to start a new year.
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- An isis inspired former u.s.
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- Military man used a truck to kill as many people as possible.
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- 14 people plus the shooter died at this point.
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- The second incident, a bomb filled tesla truck
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- Exploding in front of a trump hotel in las vegas.
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- The initial reports suggest that downtown new orleans
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- Had the resources allocated to prevented such an attack.
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- What do we know about the route of this kind of madness?
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- Well, you know, on the on the isis front,
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- I think i think it's really important to see how
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- This new orleans event really fits into
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- What their pattern was during their heyday
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- When isis was
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- Was most strong, before
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- Donald trump took them out
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- With a lot of missile strikes and things of that sort.
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- But their process was to go for the weak and vulnerable.
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- They use the internet to great effect
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- To lure young, disaffected men into their ranks.
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- Well, this wasn't a young man.
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- He was a, you know, reasonably successful human being, had,
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- Uneventful military career for the most part,
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- Served in afghanistan for a while.
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- Went into it work, went into financial services,
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- Was making over six k, but he had two divorces,
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- The last of which was,
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- Extremely stressful for him, from what
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- I've read initially here,
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- To the point where he was broke,
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- He was living in a mobile home, had,
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- You know, chickens and goats and animals out in his backyard.
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- He'd taken a very steep fall and looked at the world is,
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- In my estimation, here is a hopeless place.
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- There's no place for him at all.
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- He chose, rather than turn to goodness to get out of that
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- Dilemma, turned to evil to get out of that dilemma,
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- What kind of connections?
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- He had officially or formerly with isis?
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- We simply don't know.
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- But but to me, the the takeaway from that is
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- That there are a lot
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- Of organizations who are seeking out disaffected
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- Young people who feel a sense of hopeless ness
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- And lure them in to do more evil.
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- That's, an age old dilemma, as you well know.
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- And and so we got, we got to look out for isis
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- Recruitment videos, things of this.
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- We got to find out what this guy's history was with it.
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- Or was he just a lone wolf
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- Inspired by the kind of things that isis did?
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- We know that there was an earlier attack in germany
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- That may have been his inspiration for this.
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- And there have been many others like that,
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- And we've seen pleadings
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- From various terrorist leaders as if you don't
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- Have access to a gun or a weapon.
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- Use what you have at hand, a rock or a car,
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- In a car is is a vicious weapon.
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- I've.
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- I don't know if you've seen the actual video of that car
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- Building up speed, but he was moving at a huge pace.
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- You know, it's a really fast.
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- And, you're going to
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- Cause just terrible damage when when you have that access.
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- You know,
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- I know we don't want to create
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- Hatred toward islam, and we shouldn't.
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- Yeah, but don't we have to acknowledge
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- That too many islamic leaders globally encourage
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- This kind of destructive behavior and plant
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- The seeds in the hearts of those that are receptive to it?
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- I, i think there is a case to be made for that.
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- A very strong case we made for that.
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- And, again, i don't know what the way out is,
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- But but i think in the case
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- Of, of the fundamentalism of, of islam,
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- That a strict interpretation of,
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- You know, stoning people to death
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- And things of that sort, has outgrown its usefulness.
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- Can we say let's move on from there?
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- And i think, i think hope lies with a lot of moderate muslims
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- Who realize that there are certainly,
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- Any number of them here in the united states.
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- But at the same time,
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- I understand that his house in texas was right in adjacent,
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- To, a mosque.
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- I'm very curious to see what kin
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- What his neighbors knew about him,
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- What his neighbors knew about the teachings of that mosque
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- And who the imams were working there.
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- I had, in my neighborhood in falls church, virginia,
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- A, a mosque, not far away, which is where, one of the,
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- The great imams of of isis preached
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- And he instructed his disciples there to embark upon
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- This islamic fundamentalism, carnage.
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- And that's where many of the,
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- Perpetrators of the nine, 11 hijackings worshiped.
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- So, you know,
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- It's really going to be incumbent
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- Upon authorities in this country to keep a close eye
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- On that kind of thing.
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- I think in the case of the fbi,
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- During the biden administration, there was,
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- A misdirection where it was
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- Completely politicized, as i suspect it may have been.
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- I don't know,
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- But it was to focus on, on white lone wolf terrorists,
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- You know, the the hillbilly out in the woods with his rifle.
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- He wants to wreak damage.
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- And i could never quite understand that
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- Why that emphasis was put upon that,
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- Because it's never really come to fruition.
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- To my knowledge.
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- I suspect the january 6th may have had a lot to do with that.
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- But it seemed to me that it was misdirection, almost.
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- And this latest attack, these two latest attacks,
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- Are a reminder that, maybe something else is afoot.
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- You know, i think there's
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- We have had a focus, maybe in the wrong place.
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- We've been angry at parents at school board meetings,
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- Calling them domestic terrorists.
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- So true.
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- And ignoring people who are clearly
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- Misguided and misled.
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- One of the things i think we're looking for
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- Is a repudiation of this from the islamic community.
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- Right? right. i mean, i think so widespread.
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- I think we'll see it.
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- And when it comes
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- To authority figures in this country and the fbi,
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- I always like to point out in these cases,
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- Because i know fbi agents whose meaning and heart
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- And desire for good work is all in the right place.
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- I hate to, you know, you know,
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- Whitewash this whole thing with, with a paint, rather
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- With a broad brush about the dysfunction of the fbi.
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- Because i suspect there are a lot of field
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- Agents and special agents out there
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- Who want to see a change of leadership
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- And and see this kind of misdirection and question
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- Why is the bureau focusing on these kinds of things
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- When we could be focused on, more pressing issues?
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- Amen.
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- We'll be back in just a moment.
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- We've got a lot more to talk to doug about.
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- In the meantime, if you want to get in on the conversation,
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- You can send us your notes to comments at alan
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- Jackson now.com. we'll be right back.
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- Jackson now.com. we'll be right back.
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- Welcome back.
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- We're here with veteran reporter and newsman doug mcelwee.
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- They tell me that bourbon street has reopened,
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- And the playoff game tonight will go forward in new orleans.
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- That is some good news today.
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- We can use that.
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- But, doug, let's move to the border.
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- And the additional crime that's come with an open border.
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- Despite his public commitment to make the transition to mr.
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- Trump useful,
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- It seems that joe biden is still trying
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- To take shots at the incoming president,
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- Despite the multiple episodes
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- Of crime by those who are here illegally.
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- And that's on top of the state budgets
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- That are being drained of dwindling resources.
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- Mr. biden has even tried to sell pieces of the wall,
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- But the judge seems to have stopped him for now.
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- Do you really believe this is how president biden
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- Wants to be remembered as an open border?
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- That is welcome to all these people into the nation.
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- I don't know if he wants to be remembered for that, or
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- If he doesn't remember what he's being remembered for,
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- Or whether he's calling the shots.
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- We simply don't know.
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- I suspect it's the staff
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- Who are basically orchestrating all this stuff.
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- A lot of obama holdovers in the administration.
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- That's my guess.
- 00:10:53.379 --> 00:10:54.414
- But i have no great insight into that,
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- Just based on what i've read.
- 00:10:56.182 --> 00:10:58.084
- But, it makes no sense.
- 00:10:58.084 --> 00:11:00.587
- It really does not. he has opened the door.
- 00:11:00.587 --> 00:11:03.289
- Joe biden has to any number of potential avenues
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- For criminality or malfeasance on the part of,
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- People who are coming across that border.
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- For instance, not a lot of americans know
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- Because a lot of the media had never reported it,
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- That there are
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- Tens of thousands of chinese nationals
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- Who came across the southern border,
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- Tens of thousands of them.
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- What are they up to? who?
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- Why are they here? are they
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- Going to become
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- University professors, or are they going to become spies?
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- Are they going to become terrorists?
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- We don't know.
- 00:11:35.155 --> 00:11:35.989
- And, you know, this
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- This is not a, central and south american problem.
- 00:11:37.457 --> 00:11:40.460
- It's a worldwide problem.
- 00:11:40.460 --> 00:11:41.661
- People are coming to the united states.
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- It's got to stop.
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- And i think donald trump will do it.
- 00:11:44.697 --> 00:11:46.599
- That said, it's not going to be easy for him to do this
- 00:11:46.599 --> 00:11:49.602
- Because the, the, much despise mainstream media.
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- And people
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- Are fleeing in droves from watching mainstream
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- Networks in the aftermath of the election.
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- Now is not dead yet.
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- And i suspect that
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- One of the ways that they're going to resurrect
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- Themselves is
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- By intense coverage of this plan to deport illegal immigrants,
- 00:12:05.351 --> 00:12:08.888
- Because there's going to be a lot of opportunity for them
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- To find the grieving mother with their small child.
- 00:12:11.624 --> 00:12:16.429
- On the front page of the new york times
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- And the washington post day after day
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- After, do all the network newscasts are going to feature
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- Feature the crying children?
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- My daddy is being deported.
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- It's going to be.
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- They will tap into their
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- Emotive news coverage like nothing you've seen before.
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- So be prepared for that.
- 00:12:33.580 --> 00:12:35.315
- I think it's one of the reasons
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- That the trump administration seems to be focusing
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- Pretty much exclusively at this point
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- On deporting criminals, those who are already in jail
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- Or those who were on the lam from jail
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- Or those who have some, criminal record in this country.
- 00:12:48.795 --> 00:12:51.798
- I think that's where the focus is going to be.
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- I've heard them say that
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- Trump himself
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- Has been on camera saying that
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- He doesn't want to break up families.
- 00:12:56.569 --> 00:12:58.838
- So these are these are good things because i think the
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- The political consequences, the
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- The media, consequences of of him embarking on a wholesale,
- 00:13:04.811 --> 00:13:10.817
- Willy nilly deportation
- 00:13:10.817 --> 00:13:15.021
- Might be very destructive to his presidency.
- 00:13:15.021 --> 00:13:17.757
- One thing that seems to be
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- Very clear already
- 00:13:19.192 --> 00:13:20.460
- Is that the incoming borders are is going to get a lot of help.
- 00:13:20.460 --> 00:13:23.196
- Listen to what he's already saying.
- 00:13:23.196 --> 00:13:26.332
- I have received
- 00:13:26.699 --> 00:13:28.067
- Hundreds of emails from retired border patrol agents,
- 00:13:28.067 --> 00:13:31.471
- Retired ice agents, retired police officers,
- 00:13:31.471 --> 00:13:34.841
- People who have just left the military
- 00:13:34.841 --> 00:13:36.910
- That are begging to come in and be a part of this.
- 00:13:36.910 --> 00:13:39.212
- So we got to really see what is the money available,
- 00:13:39.212 --> 00:13:42.382
- What can we buy as resources through to arrest as many people
- 00:13:42.382 --> 00:13:45.652
- As it can buy based on priority?
- 00:13:45.652 --> 00:13:48.755
- This seems to be a far cry different
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- From our previous borders.
- 00:13:51.491 --> 00:13:54.327
- You know, i think we're both waiting
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- To see
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- How the american public will respond,
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- But it does seem hopeful that we at least close the border.
- 00:13:57.697 --> 00:13:59.933
- I'm not sure who you refer to as the borders.
- 00:13:59.933 --> 00:14:02.001
- Unless it was a kamala harris. i guess that's.
- 00:14:02.001 --> 00:14:04.604
- That's your time to.
- 00:14:04.604 --> 00:14:06.639
- But everybody involved with, immigration
- 00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:09.842
- And illegal immigration and the biden
- 00:14:09.842 --> 00:14:12.078
- Administration was at fault for this is disastrous.
- 00:14:12.078 --> 00:14:14.781
- It was a disastrous night.
- 00:14:14.781 --> 00:14:16.182
- I was looking at some numbers of the number of people
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- Who have crossed the border,
- 00:14:17.917 --> 00:14:19.052
- Compared to the great migrations to the united states
- 00:14:19.052 --> 00:14:21.621
- In the early part of the 20th century and
- 00:14:21.621 --> 00:14:23.756
- And earlier in the in the 19th century,
- 00:14:23.756 --> 00:14:26.025
- The great irish migration, a drop in the bucket
- 00:14:26.025 --> 00:14:29.762
- Compared to the number of people
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- Who have crossed the border
- 00:14:31.597 --> 00:14:32.432
- Illegally, and all those people from
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- Ireland and the other from italy, from from from eastern
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- And western europe.
- 00:14:37.837 --> 00:14:39.472
- Came here legally at ellis island,
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- As opposed to what we're seeing today.
- 00:14:42.542 --> 00:14:44.644
- So at least that was legal.
- 00:14:44.644 --> 00:14:46.446
- And what we're seeing today completely dwarfs the numbers
- 00:14:46.446 --> 00:14:49.716
- Of the early 20th century.
- 00:14:49.716 --> 00:14:51.150
- Did it does.
- 00:14:51.150 --> 00:14:52.585
- Well, here's something that seems pretty new to me.
- 00:14:52.585 --> 00:14:54.454
- The liberal media has actually begun
- 00:14:54.454 --> 00:14:56.422
- To accept some blame for not doing enough
- 00:14:56.422 --> 00:14:58.858
- Real reporting about president biden's health.
- 00:14:58.858 --> 00:15:01.627
- You know, whether they hit it,
- 00:15:02.228 --> 00:15:03.629
- They didn't recognize it for whatever reason.
- 00:15:03.629 --> 00:15:05.765
- Do you think they're going to continue to
- 00:15:05.765 --> 00:15:08.468
- Build some integrity with the american public?
- 00:15:08.468 --> 00:15:10.136
- Again, as i,
- 00:15:10.136 --> 00:15:11.270
- As i alluded to earlier, they're losing ratings, right.
- 00:15:11.270 --> 00:15:16.142
- Right and left, the numbers have dropped
- 00:15:16.142 --> 00:15:18.745
- Precipitously since the election.
- 00:15:18.745 --> 00:15:20.146
- Now, some of that is to be expected
- 00:15:20.146 --> 00:15:21.447
- Because the election is over.
- 00:15:21.447 --> 00:15:23.049
- People were watching that intensely.
- 00:15:23.049 --> 00:15:24.584
- They want to see what the latest is.
- 00:15:24.584 --> 00:15:25.918
- And in the horse race coverage that all the networks did.
- 00:15:25.918 --> 00:15:29.055
- But but there's something more afoot here.
- 00:15:29.956 --> 00:15:32.058
- People have lost trust in that institution,
- 00:15:32.058 --> 00:15:34.794
- The mainstream media.
- 00:15:34.794 --> 00:15:36.562
- And,
- 00:15:36.562 --> 00:15:38.297
- I know a lot of reporters
- 00:15:38.297 --> 00:15:39.732
- Who are licking their wounds right now.
- 00:15:39.732 --> 00:15:42.101
- Cheryl atkinson, the former cbs news reporter,
- 00:15:42.101 --> 00:15:45.505
- Has compiled a list of the major hoaxes and and mistakes
- 00:15:45.505 --> 00:15:50.443
- And misstatements that mainstream media partook
- 00:15:50.443 --> 00:15:53.813
- In over the past four years.
- 00:15:53.813 --> 00:15:55.114
- And i think the latest number she had was about 151.
- 00:15:55.114 --> 00:15:58.684
- I don't want begin to go through them all,
- 00:15:58.684 --> 00:16:00.653
- But we all you know what they are.
- 00:16:00.653 --> 00:16:02.655
- I know what they are.
- 00:16:02.655 --> 00:16:03.723
- And most of your viewers know what they are
- 00:16:03.723 --> 00:16:06.392
- And simply don't trust them anymore.
- 00:16:06.392 --> 00:16:08.961
- I can't pick up the new york times and read it
- 00:16:08.961 --> 00:16:11.164
- And take it at face value.
- 00:16:11.164 --> 00:16:12.532
- I look at it just to say, okay, what's wrong with this?
- 00:16:12.532 --> 00:16:15.935
- Or or the lead is buried 15 paragraphs down.
- 00:16:15.935 --> 00:16:19.072
- They finally,
- 00:16:19.072 --> 00:16:20.306
- They finally cut to the chase at 16 paragraphs down before
- 00:16:20.306 --> 00:16:22.942
- Setting their woke agenda all the way down line.
- 00:16:22.942 --> 00:16:25.845
- So they've got a lot to do if they want to,
- 00:16:25.845 --> 00:16:29.315
- Resurrect themselves.
- 00:16:29.315 --> 00:16:30.883
- You know, elon musk, on the other hand,
- 00:16:30.883 --> 00:16:32.819
- Says they're all dead. they'll never recover.
- 00:16:32.819 --> 00:16:35.088
- That the new way to go is x.
- 00:16:35.088 --> 00:16:37.290
- And as much as i admire elon tremendously, i think he's
- 00:16:37.290 --> 00:16:40.126
- He's he's the thomas edison of the 21st century.
- 00:16:40.126 --> 00:16:43.329
- He's also a good salesman.
- 00:16:43.329 --> 00:16:45.565
- And he paid $40 billion for x.
- 00:16:45.565 --> 00:16:47.567
- So, you know, he's got to
- 00:16:47.567 --> 00:16:49.735
- He wants to earn that money back to some degree.
- 00:16:49.735 --> 00:16:52.205
- Not that that's all that much money for him, but,
- 00:16:52.205 --> 00:16:54.807
- So because when you go to x, for example,
- 00:16:55.641 --> 00:16:58.377
- You have to,
- 00:16:58.377 --> 00:16:59.378
- There's a lot of chaff that you got to separate
- 00:16:59.378 --> 00:17:02.148
- From the wheat.
- 00:17:02.148 --> 00:17:03.082
- And i find that very, very frustrating.
- 00:17:03.082 --> 00:17:05.284
- So that's not the final solution here in terms of trusted,
- 00:17:05.284 --> 00:17:09.388
- Media sources.
- 00:17:09.722 --> 00:17:11.023
- Because there's just too much misinformation and all that.
- 00:17:11.023 --> 00:17:15.595
- You have to really sort through it all
- 00:17:15.595 --> 00:17:17.430
- To find the nuggets of truth.
- 00:17:17.430 --> 00:17:18.931
- That said, x is, the place where news breaks.
- 00:17:18.931 --> 00:17:23.936
- Now, if you really want to find breaking news, it's not the
- 00:17:23.936 --> 00:17:27.240
- The wire services, it's not the associated press,
- 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:29.742
- Which is veered leftward.
- 00:17:29.742 --> 00:17:31.244
- It is x because you just you put it in the search function
- 00:17:31.244 --> 00:17:35.448
- And what you're interested in,
- 00:17:35.448 --> 00:17:37.116
- And you will find something
- 00:17:37.116 --> 00:17:38.384
- Very legitimate there and fresh and new.
- 00:17:38.384 --> 00:17:40.586
- So so that's its real benefit.
- 00:17:40.586 --> 00:17:42.889
- I'm also really encouraged by the fact that you see a lot
- 00:17:42.889 --> 00:17:46.559
- Of independent news organizations
- 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:47.860
- Arising from the detritus of mainstream media
- 00:17:47.860 --> 00:17:50.963
- Like substack, is a wonderful thing.
- 00:17:50.963 --> 00:17:53.799
- It may not be your perfect political alignment,
- 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:57.870
- But you'll find that there, and you'll find, you know,
- 00:17:57.870 --> 00:18:01.741
- Contrary points of view, lengthy news articles
- 00:18:01.741 --> 00:18:05.444
- That will allow you to be really well informed in
- 00:18:05.444 --> 00:18:08.581
- A, in a neutral kind of a way.
- 00:18:08.581 --> 00:18:10.082
- And so where you're getting both perspectives
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- And you're not getting the spin
- 00:18:11.817 --> 00:18:13.619
- That we see in mainstream media, but this is fascinating to me
- 00:18:13.619 --> 00:18:17.890
- What's happened to mainstream media.
- 00:18:17.890 --> 00:18:19.392
- I don't know where it went wrong.
- 00:18:19.392 --> 00:18:21.260
- It was a gradual process,
- 00:18:21.260 --> 00:18:23.296
- But in many respects it is completely broken.
- 00:18:23.296 --> 00:18:25.965
- And trump's election is the potential
- 00:18:25.965 --> 00:18:29.135
- For a great realignment.
- 00:18:29.135 --> 00:18:30.670
- I pray you're a prophet.
- 00:18:30.670 --> 00:18:32.371
- We've got a 30 minute show, but there's a lot
- 00:18:32.371 --> 00:18:33.773
- We want to talk about.
- 00:18:33.773 --> 00:18:34.974
- Doug, can you stay around for another show? absolutely.
- 00:18:34.974 --> 00:18:36.943
- Thank you for being back in nashville. sure. okay.
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- Well, in a moment, i'll be back
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- With some thoughts of my own to share.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We'll be right back.
- 00:18:50.006 --> 00:18:51.524
- Thank you for taking the time to send us your emails.
- 00:18:52.592 --> 00:18:54.927
- Your thoughts and opinions do a great deal to shape our show.
- 00:18:54.927 --> 00:18:58.564
- And an email from bill, who said
- 00:18:59.198 --> 00:19:00.633
- I had an idea that perhaps you'd be interested
- 00:19:00.633 --> 00:19:02.435
- In doing a series like pbs ad, but with a biblical focus.
- 00:19:02.435 --> 00:19:06.806
- Steve allen hosted the show
- 00:19:06.806 --> 00:19:08.074
- Back in 1977, called meeting of the minds,
- 00:19:08.074 --> 00:19:11.143
- Where he had a panel of historical figures.
- 00:19:11.143 --> 00:19:13.145
- It was very interesting and quite educational.
- 00:19:13.145 --> 00:19:15.615
- Like i said, just a thought.
- 00:19:15.615 --> 00:19:17.783
- Well, bill, i appreciate your thought.
- 00:19:17.783 --> 00:19:19.485
- Makes me smile.
- 00:19:19.485 --> 00:19:20.586
- The thought of me on pbs that would be a god of it.
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- In the 21st century.
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- We've had several suggestions for programing and new programs.
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- We'll keep you posted.
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- If you stay with us, i'll be right back.
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- Eastern time so you can see it at your leisure.
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- Doug mcelroy
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- Will be back to talk about current events
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- And what's happening in our nation for now.
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- Good night from nashville.
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- God bless.
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