Andrew Wommack - Don't Limit God

January 7, 2025 | S25:E5

God told Andrew he was limiting Him by his small thinking & the results of taking the limits off of God.

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Andrew Wommack: Gospel Truth | Andrew Wommack - Don't Limit God | January 7, 2025
  • Countdown
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  • Music
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  • >> welcome to gospel truth with
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  • Andrew wommack. celebrating 25
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  • Years of sharing god's
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  • Unconditional love and grace
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  • On television. and
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  • Now here's andrew.
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  • >> welcome to another gospel
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  • Truth broadcast. this is a very
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  • Special broadcast. this week
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  • Marks the 25th anniversary of
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  • When i started on television. i
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  • Tell you, that is a miracle.
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  • Most of you watching this don't
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  • Have a clue all of the things
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  • That have happened. but it is
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  • Totally god that has made this
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  • Happen. and so we're just
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  • Celebrating the goodness of god,
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  • And we're talking about things
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  • That will relate to you. i've
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  • Got this teaching on don't limit
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  • God. i've got all kinds of
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  • Things. i've got this little
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  • Sticker, this is a static cling
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  • Sticker that you peel off, and
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  • You can stick it to a mirror, to
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  • A windshield or something like
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  • That. i've got these little
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  • Books on imagination and don't
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  • Limit god, and we've got just
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  • A lot of stuff. we'll be
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  • Advertising it at the end of the
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  • Program. but i'm really blessed
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  • To have stephen bransford with
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  • To have stephen bransford with me. and stephen is the guy who
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  • Me. and stephen is the guy who put me on television and
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  • Put me on television and yesterday, if you missed any of
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  • Yesterday, if you missed any of the broadcast, we talked a
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  • The broadcast, we talked a little bit about what it was
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  • Little bit about what it was like to get started, but then
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  • Like to get started, but then we played a 12 minute, 25th
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  • We played a 12 minute, 25th celebration video and it's
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  • Celebration video and it's really powerful. so, if you
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  • Really powerful. so, if you haven't seen that, i encourage
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  • Haven't seen that, i encourage you to look at it. stephen put
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  • You to look at it. stephen put that together. but, but stephen,
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  • That together. but, but stephen, i want to go back and what i
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  • I want to go back and what i want to do today is talk about
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  • Some things even before i met
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  • You. but, you know, i had been
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  • On radio since '76 and we
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  • Started on television in 2000,
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  • So what's that? 24 years i had
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  • Been on radio, and we got to
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  • Been on radio, and we got to where we had like, i think it
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  • Where we had like, i think it was 120 something stations, and
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  • Was 120 something stations, and our... we were ministering to
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  • Our... we were ministering to people. there was good
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  • People. there was good things happening, but i was
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  • Things happening, but i was just barely keeping my nose
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  • Just barely keeping my nose above the water line. i mean,
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  • Above the water line. i mean, we were facing financial
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  • We were facing financial disaster all of the time.
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  • Disaster all of the time. and the lord spoke to me in the
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  • And the lord spoke to me in the summer of '96 or '90... what was
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  • Summer of '96 or '90... what was it, '99. must have been before
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  • It, '99. must have been before that. it was the summer of '98.
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  • That. it was the summer of '98. >> yeah, because we met in '99.
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  • >> yeah, because we met in '99. >> it was the summer of '98, and
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  • >> it was the summer of '98, and told me that i was supposed to
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  • Told me that i was supposed to go on television. and so, in
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  • Go on television. and so, in january of '99, i went to my
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  • January of '99, i went to my radio partners, which i don't
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  • Radio partners, which i don't even know how many i had then,
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  • Even know how many i had then, but it probably couldn't have
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  • But it probably couldn't have been over a... 500 or a 1000
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  • Been over a... 500 or a 1000 maximum. and i just told them,
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  • Maximum. and i just told them, i said, radio's one thing.
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  • I said, radio's one thing. television is a whole nother
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  • Television is a whole nother world. and i knew it was going
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  • World. and i knew it was going to be really expensive. and so i
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  • To be really expensive. and so i said, if we're going to do this,
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  • Said, if we're going to do this, i've got to have an increase in
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  • I've got to have an increase in finances. and rather than me
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  • Finances. and rather than me going on and expecting them to
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  • Going on and expecting them to come in arrears, i've got to
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  • Come in arrears, i've got to have them come in advance.
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  • Have them come in advance. that's just where my faith was.
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  • That's just where my faith was. so i advertised this, and i
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  • So i advertised this, and i forget exactly how much money. i
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  • Forget exactly how much money. i think i was asking for $115,000
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  • Is what i thought i needed. and,
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  • Is what i thought i needed. and, and when you came on,
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  • And when you came on, i told you that i had $75,000.
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  • I told you that i had $75,000. and it's not that i was
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  • And it's not that i was hiding anything from you, but
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  • Hiding anything from you, but the other was to buy a...
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  • The other was to buy a... >> well, of course, you
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  • >> well, of course, you had to buy television
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  • Had to buy television time to get started.
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  • Time to get started. >> yeah, and other things. but
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  • You, you helped ptl,
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  • You, you helped ptl, james robison get started.
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  • James robison get started. you worked for billy graham and
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  • You worked for billy graham and did a lot of stuff for them. and
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  • Did a lot of stuff for them. and when i told you that i had
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  • When i told you that i had $75,000 to get a set, to get
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  • $75,000 to get a set, to get equipment, to hire personnel,
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  • Equipment, to hire personnel, to do everything, how did
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  • To do everything, how did that compare with what
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  • That compare with what you'd done in the past?
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  • You'd done in the past? >> well, it was half my budget
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  • >> well, it was half my budget for the six-minute billy graham
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  • For the six-minute billy graham film that i was working on at
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  • Film that i was working on at the time. anyway... yeah, it was
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  • The time. anyway... yeah, it was a shock. and you asked me, you
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  • A shock. and you asked me, you said, you know, i have this
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  • Said, you know, i have this $75,000 for the production side
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  • $75,000 for the production side of television. can that be done?
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  • Of television. can that be done? and i, i was honest. i'm 50
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  • And i, i was honest. i'm 50 years old by then. i've got
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  • Years old by then. i've got nothing to prove. you're 50.
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  • Nothing to prove. you're 50. that's something that's
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  • That's something that's significant. we'd both been down
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  • Significant. we'd both been down the road aways. i was
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  • The road aways. i was going to just be honest...
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  • Going to just be honest... >> i'm just about what?
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  • >> i'm just about what? three months older than
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  • Three months older than you, something like that.
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  • You, something like that. >> yeah, yeah.
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  • >> yeah, yeah. >> so we're just about
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  • >> so we're just about the same age.
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  • The same age. >> so, so i was just going to be
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  • >> so, so i was just going to be honest there, and i was ser... i
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  • Honest there, and i was ser... i was there to serve the lord.
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  • Was there to serve the lord. that, that... coming in the
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  • That, that... coming in the door, and i'd already received a
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  • Door, and i'd already received a confirmation that this is it,
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  • Confirmation that this is it, but i didn't know all the
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  • But i didn't know all the details. so i, i said, i don't
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  • Details. so i, i said, i don't know if that can be done,
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  • Know if that can be done, 75,000 is not much.
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  • 75,000 is not much. >> i remember you saying that.
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  • >> i remember you saying that. that wasn't encouraging to me.
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  • That wasn't encouraging to me. >> no. and i... and i said, who
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  • >> no. and i... and i said, who told you? and... and you told me
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  • Told you? and... and you told me a friend of yours, bobby crow
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  • A friend of yours, bobby crow had told you you could do
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  • Had told you you could do television for that amount. so i
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  • Television for that amount. so i called bobby crow and he was
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  • Called bobby crow and he was giving me kind of prosumer
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  • Giving me kind of prosumer cameras, three, and a switcher,
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  • Cameras, three, and a switcher, and all the typical things you
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  • And all the typical things you do in a tv studio that you could
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  • Do in a tv studio that you could do with that... with that money.
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  • And i knew that somehow that
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  • And i knew that somehow that wasn't going to be right. so i,
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  • Wasn't going to be right. so i, i took that in, then i started
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  • I took that in, then i started researching, and boy, it was
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  • Researching, and boy, it was miraculous, andrew. i got to
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  • Miraculous, andrew. i got to tell you, the lord began leading
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  • Tell you, the lord began leading me to the right places. but i
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  • Me to the right places. but i want to bring something up. the
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  • Want to bring something up. the anniversary we're celebrating of
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  • Anniversary we're celebrating of your start on television is
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  • Your start on television is january. okay. but when i met
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  • January. okay. but when i met you, you said, i want to go on
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  • You, you said, i want to go on television in september.
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  • Television in september. >> well.
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  • >> well. >> i want to thank you for
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  • >> i want to thank you for giving me more time because by
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  • Giving me more time because by the time i got on board in
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  • The time i got on board in jet... in july and started the
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  • Jet... in july and started the process, we didn't have
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  • Process, we didn't have anything. i didn't have a... i
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  • Anything. i didn't have a... i didn't know if we could do it
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  • Didn't know if we could do it with that budget. but look what
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  • With that budget. but look what god did. i took... you, you gave
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  • God did. i took... you, you gave me the extra time to get on the
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  • Me the extra time to get on the air. and what that did was
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  • Air. and what that did was it allowed us to build
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  • It allowed us to build that first set, and people
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  • Saw glimpses of that first
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  • Set. and it's a nice looking
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  • Set. i mean, it wasn't bad.
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  • It's not this beautiful one
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  • That we upgraded to,
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  • That we upgraded to, what, in 2011. but it
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  • What, in 2011. but it served us for 11, 12 years.
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  • Served us for 11, 12 years. >> and it was miraculous
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  • >> and it was miraculous how we got that.
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  • How we got that. >> that was god, because i had
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  • >> that was god, because i had tried... here's the thing. i
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  • Tried... here's the thing. i wanted to build everything
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  • Wanted to build everything around what your gift in
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  • Around what your gift in ministry was and who you were.
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  • Ministry was and who you were. and i went to your home, if
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  • And i went to your home, if you'll remember that, and sat
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  • You'll remember that, and sat down and just saw how you lived,
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  • Down and just saw how you lived, and you had this $60,000 home on
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  • And you had this $60,000 home on top of a mountain in colorado.
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  • And so, i love colorado, i love
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  • And so, i love colorado, i love the outdoors, and you did. and
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  • So, i saw those kinds of things
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  • So, i saw those kinds of things as fitting who you were. they
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  • As fitting who you were. they weren't just something pasted
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  • Weren't just something pasted on. like this set right here is
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  • On. like this set right here is who you are. we built this based
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  • Who you are. we built this based on your personality and your
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  • On your personality and your ministry gifts. plus your
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  • Ministry gifts. plus your location. you look out the
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  • Location. you look out the window, you see the scene of
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  • Window, you see the scene of garden of the gods, and you see
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  • Garden of the gods, and you see pikes peak, which is where we
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  • Pikes peak, which is where we live. all of that started coming
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  • Live. all of that started coming together, but i couldn't find a
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  • Together, but i couldn't find a set builder to put that set in
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  • Set builder to put that set in the corner of that classroom
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  • The corner of that classroom once we got going.
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  • Once we got going. >> people wouldn't understand
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  • >> people wouldn't understand how we got started, but we
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  • How we got started, but we actually put that set in our
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  • Actually put that set in our charis bible college classroom,
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  • Charis bible college classroom, and the instructors had
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  • And the instructors had to teach on the set.
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  • To teach on the set. >> that's right.
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  • >> that's right. >> and i had to wait until
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  • >> and i had to wait until school was out before i could
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  • School was out before i could make programs, because we were
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  • Make programs, because we were having to use the same room
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  • Having to use the same room for studio and school.
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  • For studio and school. >> and the room had bad echoes
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  • >> and the room had bad echoes and sound. and so, we would hang
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  • And sound. and so, we would hang blankets around the, the set in
  • 00:07:28.304 --> 00:07:30.706
  • Blankets around the, the set in the classroom. just... we looked
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  • The classroom. just... we looked like, what, we looked like the
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  • Like, what, we looked like the beverly hillbillies getting
  • 00:07:34.176 --> 00:07:35.478
  • Beverly hillbillies getting started. it was great though,
  • 00:07:35.545 --> 00:07:37.914
  • Started. it was great though, because the program was the
  • 00:07:37.980 --> 00:07:39.215
  • Because the program was the same as it is today. you were
  • 00:07:39.282 --> 00:07:41.050
  • Same as it is today. you were teaching to that one camera,
  • 00:07:41.117 --> 00:07:43.185
  • Teaching to that one camera, which, you know, we got... and
  • 00:07:43.252 --> 00:07:45.288
  • Which, you know, we got... and by the way, just to let people
  • 00:07:45.354 --> 00:07:46.389
  • By the way, just to let people know, i got you on the air
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  • Know, i got you on the air actually for a little
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  • Actually for a little bit under that budget.
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  • Bit under that budget. >> and that's mira... because
  • 00:07:51.093 --> 00:07:52.328
  • >> and that's mira... because like when you were with ptl, how
  • 00:07:52.395 --> 00:07:54.196
  • Like when you were with ptl, how many people did you have in
  • 00:07:54.263 --> 00:07:55.398
  • Many people did you have in your television department?
  • 00:07:55.464 --> 00:07:56.632
  • Your television department? >> oh my goodness. we had like
  • 00:07:56.699 --> 00:07:57.900
  • >> oh my goodness. we had like you have here, what, almost 100.
  • 00:07:57.967 --> 00:08:00.536
  • You have here, what, almost 100. >> yeah. and you probably had
  • 00:08:00.603 --> 00:08:02.071
  • >> yeah. and you probably had multiple cameras and just all
  • 00:08:02.138 --> 00:08:04.040
  • Multiple cameras and just all kinds of stuff. and i, i'm
  • 00:08:04.106 --> 00:08:06.042
  • Kinds of stuff. and i, i'm guessing, but i bet you it was a
  • 00:08:06.108 --> 00:08:07.643
  • Guessing, but i bet you it was a million dollars or more,
  • 00:08:07.710 --> 00:08:09.078
  • Million dollars or more, something that you had. and here
  • 00:08:09.145 --> 00:08:10.613
  • Something that you had. and here you started with $75,000, set,
  • 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:13.916
  • You started with $75,000, set, equipment, salaries, everything.
  • 00:08:13.983 --> 00:08:17.553
  • Equipment, salaries, everything. >> yeah. here it was... it was
  • 00:08:17.620 --> 00:08:19.689
  • >> yeah. here it was... it was a... it was god. how can i say
  • 00:08:19.755 --> 00:08:22.391
  • A... it was god. how can i say it otherwise? because... and,
  • 00:08:22.458 --> 00:08:24.527
  • It otherwise? because... and, and i began to get thrilled. i
  • 00:08:24.594 --> 00:08:26.062
  • And i began to get thrilled. i got to tell you, i knew as we
  • 00:08:26.128 --> 00:08:27.530
  • Got to tell you, i knew as we started putting things together
  • 00:08:27.597 --> 00:08:28.931
  • Started putting things together and you let me take the
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  • And you let me take the little more time to get the
  • 00:08:30.433 --> 00:08:32.668
  • Little more time to get the post-production together. i
  • 00:08:32.735 --> 00:08:35.204
  • Post-production together. i can't explain to the audience
  • 00:08:35.271 --> 00:08:36.706
  • Can't explain to the audience the technical miracles that
  • 00:08:36.772 --> 00:08:38.574
  • The technical miracles that happened one after another. but
  • 00:08:38.641 --> 00:08:39.842
  • Happened one after another. but i'll say the one thing about the
  • 00:08:39.909 --> 00:08:41.010
  • I'll say the one thing about the set. i needed something that
  • 00:08:41.077 --> 00:08:43.379
  • Set. i needed something that looked like you because i'd been
  • 00:08:43.446 --> 00:08:44.847
  • Looked like you because i'd been to your home. and so i began to
  • 00:08:44.914 --> 00:08:47.249
  • To your home. and so i began to describe it as, as something
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  • Describe it as, as something i'd seen at christmas.
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  • I'd seen at christmas. kathie lee gifford did a
  • 00:08:51.821 --> 00:08:53.489
  • Kathie lee gifford did a christmas special that year.
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  • Christmas special that year. >> i saw that.
  • 00:08:55.358 --> 00:08:56.225
  • >> i saw that. >> that was in beaver creek,
  • 00:08:56.292 --> 00:08:57.593
  • >> that was in beaver creek, colorado, and i had seen her
  • 00:08:57.660 --> 00:09:00.262
  • Colorado, and i had seen her special, and i'd seen how the
  • 00:09:00.329 --> 00:09:01.664
  • Special, and i'd seen how the set had been built there, and i
  • 00:09:01.731 --> 00:09:04.000
  • Set had been built there, and i said, i want that kind of look
  • 00:09:04.066 --> 00:09:06.602
  • Said, i want that kind of look for andrew. and so, i began to
  • 00:09:06.669 --> 00:09:09.972
  • For andrew. and so, i began to bring in from focus on the
  • 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:11.707
  • Bring in from focus on the family and other christian
  • 00:09:11.774 --> 00:09:13.042
  • Family and other christian organizations, set, set
  • 00:09:13.109 --> 00:09:14.443
  • Organizations, set, set designers and people, and i'm
  • 00:09:14.510 --> 00:09:15.645
  • Designers and people, and i'm telling them that, and they
  • 00:09:15.711 --> 00:09:16.812
  • Telling them that, and they would draw things for me. and
  • 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:18.447
  • Would draw things for me. and nothing. nothing was working. i
  • 00:09:18.514 --> 00:09:21.150
  • Nothing. nothing was working. i went to a broadway designer in
  • 00:09:21.217 --> 00:09:23.185
  • Went to a broadway designer in denver. he couldn't do it. i'm
  • 00:09:23.252 --> 00:09:27.023
  • Denver. he couldn't do it. i'm sitting there wondering, how are
  • 00:09:27.089 --> 00:09:29.225
  • Sitting there wondering, how are we going to go forward? this is
  • 00:09:29.291 --> 00:09:30.793
  • We going to go forward? this is august. and, in my door
  • 00:09:30.860 --> 00:09:36.032
  • August. and, in my door literally walked two, two men
  • 00:09:36.098 --> 00:09:39.201
  • Literally walked two, two men and they said, we hear that
  • 00:09:39.268 --> 00:09:40.302
  • And they said, we hear that you're looking for someone to
  • 00:09:40.369 --> 00:09:41.704
  • You're looking for someone to design and build a set. and i
  • 00:09:41.771 --> 00:09:43.973
  • Design and build a set. and i said, yes, i am. and the one guy
  • 00:09:44.040 --> 00:09:47.677
  • Said, yes, i am. and the one guy said, well, i have a warehouse
  • 00:09:47.743 --> 00:09:49.845
  • Said, well, i have a warehouse where i build sets just five
  • 00:09:49.912 --> 00:09:51.480
  • Where i build sets just five blocks from your building here
  • 00:09:51.547 --> 00:09:52.948
  • Blocks from your building here on robinson. and the other
  • 00:09:53.015 --> 00:09:57.286
  • On robinson. and the other gentleman said, and i'm the
  • 00:09:57.353 --> 00:09:58.454
  • Gentleman said, and i'm the designer. and he said, i
  • 00:09:58.521 --> 00:09:59.555
  • Designer. and he said, i designed kathie lee gifford's
  • 00:09:59.622 --> 00:10:01.090
  • Designed kathie lee gifford's christmas beaver creek set. you
  • 00:10:01.157 --> 00:10:05.895
  • Christmas beaver creek set. you try to calculate those odds.
  • 00:10:05.961 --> 00:10:08.064
  • Try to calculate those odds. when that happened, i knew this,
  • 00:10:08.130 --> 00:10:10.499
  • When that happened, i knew this, the lord had spoken. because you
  • 00:10:10.566 --> 00:10:12.902
  • The lord had spoken. because you can't make that happen.
  • 00:10:12.968 --> 00:10:14.003
  • Can't make that happen. >> plus, all of the other people
  • 00:10:14.070 --> 00:10:15.504
  • >> plus, all of the other people that you'd contacted, the sets
  • 00:10:15.571 --> 00:10:17.440
  • That you'd contacted, the sets were much more expensive. we got
  • 00:10:17.506 --> 00:10:19.608
  • Were much more expensive. we got that set d... designed...
  • 00:10:19.675 --> 00:10:21.744
  • That set d... designed... >> 8,000.
  • 00:10:21.811 --> 00:10:22.478
  • >> 8,000. >> 8,000, and it was because...
  • 00:10:22.545 --> 00:10:23.279
  • >> 8,000, and it was because... >> designed and built.
  • 00:10:23.345 --> 00:10:24.747
  • >> designed and built. >> it was because they were out
  • 00:10:24.814 --> 00:10:26.248
  • >> it was because they were out of work. they were in between
  • 00:10:26.315 --> 00:10:27.349
  • Of work. they were in between jobs, and they said, we just
  • 00:10:27.416 --> 00:10:29.018
  • Jobs, and they said, we just need something to fill a gap.
  • 00:10:29.085 --> 00:10:30.653
  • Need something to fill a gap. and so, they basically
  • 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:31.854
  • And so, they basically built it nearly at cost.
  • 00:10:31.921 --> 00:10:33.222
  • Built it nearly at cost. >> they did. and they did some
  • 00:10:33.289 --> 00:10:34.724
  • >> they did. and they did some extras on it that just, you
  • 00:10:34.790 --> 00:10:36.726
  • Extras on it that just, you know, subtle little things that
  • 00:10:36.792 --> 00:10:38.160
  • Know, subtle little things that they put their heart and soul
  • 00:10:38.227 --> 00:10:40.162
  • They put their heart and soul into that first set. and so, for
  • 00:10:40.229 --> 00:10:42.898
  • Into that first set. and so, for 12 years, praise god, it, it
  • 00:10:42.965 --> 00:10:45.568
  • 12 years, praise god, it, it served us. and then it
  • 00:10:45.634 --> 00:10:47.403
  • Served us. and then it was time to, to go up.
  • 00:10:47.470 --> 00:10:48.704
  • Was time to, to go up. >> but you know, let me go back
  • 00:10:48.771 --> 00:10:49.739
  • >> but you know, let me go back that... to my radio partners
  • 00:10:49.805 --> 00:10:53.809
  • That... to my radio partners because before i went on
  • 00:10:53.876 --> 00:10:55.244
  • Because before i went on television, radio partnerships,
  • 00:10:55.311 --> 00:10:58.047
  • Television, radio partnerships, i could... i would have to
  • 00:10:58.114 --> 00:10:59.115
  • I could... i would have to guess. but i am sure that our
  • 00:10:59.181 --> 00:11:01.684
  • Guess. but i am sure that our income was probably never over a
  • 00:11:01.751 --> 00:11:04.253
  • Income was probably never over a million dollars a year on radio.
  • 00:11:04.320 --> 00:11:06.756
  • Million dollars a year on radio. and that's with me being on like
  • 00:11:06.822 --> 00:11:08.157
  • And that's with me being on like 120 radio stations. we had 20
  • 00:11:08.224 --> 00:11:10.926
  • 120 radio stations. we had 20 something employees, and that
  • 00:11:10.993 --> 00:11:13.829
  • Something employees, and that was bare bones. we had
  • 00:11:13.896 --> 00:11:15.030
  • Was bare bones. we had collection agencies that would
  • 00:11:15.097 --> 00:11:16.432
  • Collection agencies that would come after us. we would go in
  • 00:11:16.499 --> 00:11:18.167
  • Come after us. we would go in feast and famine mode and stuff.
  • 00:11:18.234 --> 00:11:21.070
  • Feast and famine mode and stuff. and so, we were struggling, and
  • 00:11:21.137 --> 00:11:23.305
  • And so, we were struggling, and we had no extra money. zip.
  • 00:11:23.372 --> 00:11:25.574
  • We had no extra money. zip. zero. nada. and when i went to
  • 00:11:25.641 --> 00:11:27.843
  • Zero. nada. and when i went to my radio partners, for them to
  • 00:11:27.910 --> 00:11:30.513
  • My radio partners, for them to supply an extra 115,000 or
  • 00:11:30.579 --> 00:11:33.182
  • Supply an extra 115,000 or 20,000, whatever it was, for me
  • 00:11:33.249 --> 00:11:35.017
  • 20,000, whatever it was, for me to get the... to hire you, to
  • 00:11:35.084 --> 00:11:37.887
  • To get the... to hire you, to get the set built, the
  • 00:11:37.953 --> 00:11:39.021
  • Get the set built, the equipment, and then pay i think
  • 00:11:39.088 --> 00:11:41.390
  • Equipment, and then pay i think it was three or four months
  • 00:11:41.457 --> 00:11:42.792
  • It was three or four months airtime i was thinking of, it
  • 00:11:42.858 --> 00:11:45.728
  • Airtime i was thinking of, it was... i'd never had that kind
  • 00:11:45.795 --> 00:11:47.963
  • Was... i'd never had that kind of a response in my life to
  • 00:11:48.030 --> 00:11:49.965
  • Of a response in my life to anything. and in january of '99,
  • 00:11:50.032 --> 00:11:52.802
  • Anything. and in january of '99, i just went to my partners and
  • 00:11:52.868 --> 00:11:55.037
  • I just went to my partners and told them what god had laid on
  • 00:11:55.104 --> 00:11:56.372
  • Told them what god had laid on my heart and asked if they would
  • 00:11:56.438 --> 00:11:57.740
  • My heart and asked if they would support it. and i think we had
  • 00:11:57.807 --> 00:11:59.408
  • Support it. and i think we had $150,000 come in, and we
  • 00:11:59.475 --> 00:12:03.512
  • $150,000 come in, and we designated 75,000 of that
  • 00:12:03.579 --> 00:12:05.648
  • Designated 75,000 of that towards all of these production
  • 00:12:05.714 --> 00:12:07.817
  • Towards all of these production things. and it was just the
  • 00:12:07.883 --> 00:12:10.085
  • Things. and it was just the greatest miracle that i had ever
  • 00:12:10.152 --> 00:12:12.721
  • Greatest miracle that i had ever experienced financially. and
  • 00:12:12.788 --> 00:12:14.790
  • Experienced financially. and then when we started, we started
  • 00:12:14.857 --> 00:12:16.325
  • Then when we started, we started on the old ptl network.
  • 00:12:16.392 --> 00:12:18.127
  • >> insp.
  • 00:12:19.161 --> 00:12:20.329
  • >> and we started on that,
  • 00:12:21.664 --> 00:12:22.832
  • >> and we started on that, and it only covered 3% of
  • 00:12:22.898 --> 00:12:24.233
  • The u.s. population, and, and
  • 00:12:25.534 --> 00:12:27.336
  • The u.s. population, and, and again, i'm guessing. don't hold
  • 00:12:27.403 --> 00:12:29.205
  • Again, i'm guessing. don't hold me to these things, but i think
  • 00:12:29.271 --> 00:12:30.506
  • Me to these things, but i think that the cost was about like
  • 00:12:30.573 --> 00:12:31.774
  • That the cost was about like $26,000 a month is what that
  • 00:12:31.841 --> 00:12:35.911
  • $26,000 a month is what that cost for 3% of the u.s.
  • 00:12:35.978 --> 00:12:38.080
  • Cost for 3% of the u.s. population. and that was
  • 00:12:38.147 --> 00:12:39.515
  • Population. and that was stretching us to the max. and
  • 00:12:39.582 --> 00:12:42.518
  • Stretching us to the max. and yet within, i'd say two months,
  • 00:12:42.585 --> 00:12:44.720
  • Yet within, i'd say two months, three months, we had that much
  • 00:12:44.787 --> 00:12:46.655
  • Three months, we had that much income coming in from those
  • 00:12:46.722 --> 00:12:48.157
  • Income coming in from those programs, which it just defies
  • 00:12:48.224 --> 00:12:50.459
  • Programs, which it just defies all of the logic that we've ever
  • 00:12:50.526 --> 00:12:52.795
  • All of the logic that we've ever had. and of course, you know,
  • 00:12:52.862 --> 00:12:54.096
  • Doug neece, integrity media,
  • 00:12:54.697 --> 00:12:56.932
  • They were our media buyers, and
  • 00:12:56.932 --> 00:12:59.134
  • They were the ones that bought
  • 00:12:59.201 --> 00:13:00.069
  • They were the ones that bought the time for kenneth copeland
  • 00:13:00.135 --> 00:13:01.303
  • The time for kenneth copeland airtime, at that time i think it
  • 00:13:01.370 --> 00:13:02.638
  • Airtime, at that time i think it was creflo dollar. many, many of
  • 00:13:02.705 --> 00:13:04.240
  • Was creflo dollar. many, many of the people, they had probably 40
  • 00:13:04.306 --> 00:13:06.508
  • The people, they had probably 40 million a year that they spent
  • 00:13:06.575 --> 00:13:08.744
  • Million a year that they spent on television airtime. and we
  • 00:13:08.811 --> 00:13:10.112
  • On television airtime. and we were just little tiny, but they
  • 00:13:10.179 --> 00:13:12.982
  • Were just little tiny, but they were shocked at the response
  • 00:13:13.048 --> 00:13:15.150
  • Were shocked at the response that we had. and it was, it was
  • 00:13:15.217 --> 00:13:17.686
  • That we had. and it was, it was just god in every single way.
  • 00:13:17.753 --> 00:13:20.155
  • Just god in every single way. >> well, you know, andrew, i
  • 00:13:20.222 --> 00:13:21.090
  • >> well, you know, andrew, i asked you one thing in that,
  • 00:13:21.156 --> 00:13:22.391
  • When we started, and i said to
  • 00:13:23.659 --> 00:13:26.161
  • When we started, and i said to you, i said, now once we had
  • 00:13:26.228 --> 00:13:29.431
  • You, i said, now once we had decided on the table. by the
  • 00:13:29.498 --> 00:13:31.200
  • Decided on the table. by the way, we bought this table
  • 00:13:31.267 --> 00:13:32.701
  • Way, we bought this table without this top for, for...
  • 00:13:32.768 --> 00:13:34.637
  • Without this top for, for... this is the same table
  • 00:13:34.703 --> 00:13:35.804
  • This is the same table that you started with 25
  • 00:13:35.871 --> 00:13:37.373
  • That you started with 25 years ago on television.
  • 00:13:37.439 --> 00:13:38.507
  • Years ago on television. >> but when we built this...
  • 00:13:38.574 --> 00:13:39.708
  • >> but when we built this... >> same chairs. we just
  • 00:13:39.775 --> 00:13:40.209
  • >> same chairs. we just redressed them.
  • 00:13:40.276 --> 00:13:40.910
  • Redressed them. >> yeah. when we built this set,
  • 00:13:40.976 --> 00:13:42.444
  • >> yeah. when we built this set, they wanted to make it a little
  • 00:13:42.511 --> 00:13:44.213
  • They wanted to make it a little bit more compatible, so they,
  • 00:13:44.280 --> 00:13:46.415
  • Bit more compatible, so they, they recovered the chairs and
  • 00:13:46.482 --> 00:13:48.017
  • They recovered the chairs and put a top on the table. other
  • 00:13:48.083 --> 00:13:49.451
  • Put a top on the table. other than that, it's the one we've
  • 00:13:49.518 --> 00:13:50.486
  • Than that, it's the one we've been using for 25 years.
  • 00:13:50.552 --> 00:13:51.220
  • Been using for 25 years. >> but i asked you back then, i
  • 00:13:51.287 --> 00:13:52.655
  • >> but i asked you back then, i said, andrew, what have you done
  • 00:13:52.721 --> 00:13:53.789
  • Said, andrew, what have you done on radio that's successful? and
  • 00:13:53.856 --> 00:13:55.624
  • On radio that's successful? and you said something to me that
  • 00:13:55.691 --> 00:13:56.759
  • You said something to me that just jumped out. you said, i
  • 00:13:56.825 --> 00:13:59.061
  • Just jumped out. you said, i give product away. and when i
  • 00:13:59.128 --> 00:14:02.831
  • Give product away. and when i heard that, i really, really
  • 00:14:02.898 --> 00:14:05.401
  • Heard that, i really, really thought, this is going to be
  • 00:14:05.467 --> 00:14:07.236
  • Thought, this is going to be strong in your partners hearts.
  • 00:14:07.303 --> 00:14:10.973
  • Strong in your partners hearts. and as i went out, after we got
  • 00:14:11.040 --> 00:14:13.776
  • And as i went out, after we got going and when i would go with
  • 00:14:13.842 --> 00:14:15.277
  • Going and when i would go with you to meetings, i would talk to
  • 00:14:15.344 --> 00:14:17.680
  • You to meetings, i would talk to your partners. i would say, so
  • 00:14:17.746 --> 00:14:19.982
  • Your partners. i would say, so what is it that, that causes you
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  • What is it that, that causes you to be a partner. and again and
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  • To be a partner. and again and again and again i heard it,
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  • Andrew gives things away.
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  • Andrew gives things away. and, and in the beginning,
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  • And, and in the beginning, we, we actually received
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  • We, we actually received things free just to make
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  • Things free just to make sure he wasn't lying.
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  • Sure he wasn't lying. >> yep. a lot of
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  • >> yep. a lot of people say that.
  • 00:14:34.430 --> 00:14:35.064
  • People say that. >> and when we realized that
  • 00:14:35.130 --> 00:14:35.798
  • >> and when we realized that andrew meant that, then we want
  • 00:14:35.864 --> 00:14:38.701
  • Andrew meant that, then we want to be a part of it. we want to
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  • To be a part of it. we want to give to be a part of that. and
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  • Give to be a part of that. and so, i started putting on
  • 00:14:43.505 --> 00:14:44.907
  • So, i started putting on television, this phrase, we, we
  • 00:14:44.974 --> 00:14:48.344
  • Television, this phrase, we, we want to thank our grace partners
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  • Want to thank our grace partners for making these donations so
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  • For making these donations so that it's possible for us to
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  • That it's possible for us to give product away to people in
  • 00:14:54.383 --> 00:14:56.251
  • Give product away to people in need. and that one motivation is
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  • Need. and that one motivation is such a big one with your
  • 00:15:00.022 --> 00:15:01.490
  • Such a big one with your audience. and i don't know that
  • 00:15:01.557 --> 00:15:03.225
  • Audience. and i don't know that i've found it anywhere else in
  • 00:15:03.292 --> 00:15:04.760
  • I've found it anywhere else in ministry, wherever i've been.
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  • Ministry, wherever i've been. >> yeah, that one sentence
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  • >> yeah, that one sentence really says a lot right there.
  • 00:15:08.764 --> 00:15:10.532
  • Really says a lot right there. our partners have enabled us to
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  • Our partners have enabled us to do this. and like i said, i
  • 00:15:12.401 --> 00:15:13.769
  • Do this. and like i said, i don't remember the exact number
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  • Don't remember the exact number of radio partners, but i, i
  • 00:15:15.237 --> 00:15:16.672
  • Of radio partners, but i, i imagine it was around 500. now
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  • Imagine it was around 500. now we have over 70,000. and all of
  • 00:15:18.540 --> 00:15:21.577
  • We have over 70,000. and all of that has come through
  • 00:15:21.643 --> 00:15:23.245
  • That has come through television. our monthly bills
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  • Television. our monthly bills are a minimum of 8 million a
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  • Are a minimum of 8 million a month. and we used to get less
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  • Month. and we used to get less than a million in an entire
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  • Than a million in an entire year. it's just phenomenal what
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  • Year. it's just phenomenal what god has done, and television...
  • 00:15:34.957 --> 00:15:37.259
  • God has done, and television... you know, let me say to the
  • 00:15:37.326 --> 00:15:38.160
  • You know, let me say to the people watching. i don't always
  • 00:15:38.227 --> 00:15:40.129
  • People watching. i don't always say this, but i had... i started
  • 00:15:40.195 --> 00:15:42.297
  • Say this, but i had... i started in ministry in '68 is when the
  • 00:15:42.364 --> 00:15:45.234
  • In ministry in '68 is when the lord touched my life.
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  • Lord touched my life. immediately i started
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  • Immediately i started ministering. and i had been on
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  • Ministering. and i had been on radio since 1976. and so, for
  • 00:15:49.972 --> 00:15:54.209
  • Radio since 1976. and so, for all of those decades, i had been
  • 00:15:54.276 --> 00:15:56.211
  • All of those decades, i had been ministering. but the lord woke
  • 00:15:56.278 --> 00:15:57.613
  • Ministering. but the lord woke me up on july the 26th, i think
  • 00:15:57.679 --> 00:16:00.349
  • Me up on july the 26th, i think it was of 1999, and i had a
  • 00:16:00.416 --> 00:16:04.219
  • It was of 1999, and i had a dream. i won't go into the whole
  • 00:16:04.286 --> 00:16:05.387
  • Dream. i won't go into the whole thing, but he told me, he says,
  • 00:16:05.454 --> 00:16:07.289
  • Thing, but he told me, he says, your ministry is just now
  • 00:16:07.356 --> 00:16:08.690
  • Your ministry is just now starting. when you start on
  • 00:16:08.757 --> 00:16:10.459
  • Starting. when you start on television, january the 3rd,
  • 00:16:10.526 --> 00:16:12.161
  • Television, january the 3rd, 2000, that will be the start of
  • 00:16:12.227 --> 00:16:14.830
  • 2000, that will be the start of your ministry. so by that time i
  • 00:16:14.897 --> 00:16:16.932
  • Your ministry. so by that time i had been in ministry for 32
  • 00:16:16.999 --> 00:16:18.767
  • Had been in ministry for 32 years, and yet god was telling
  • 00:16:18.834 --> 00:16:21.136
  • Years, and yet god was telling me i was just getting started.
  • 00:16:21.203 --> 00:16:22.738
  • Me i was just getting started. which was a little discouraging
  • 00:16:22.805 --> 00:16:24.473
  • Which was a little discouraging to think that for 32 years i had
  • 00:16:24.540 --> 00:16:26.642
  • To think that for 32 years i had been in training, but it was
  • 00:16:26.708 --> 00:16:28.410
  • Been in training, but it was also encouraging at the same
  • 00:16:28.477 --> 00:16:29.912
  • Also encouraging at the same time, because that meant that
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  • Time, because that meant that all of the great things that we
  • 00:16:31.113 --> 00:16:32.214
  • All of the great things that we had seen, it, it was going to be
  • 00:16:32.281 --> 00:16:33.782
  • Had seen, it, it was going to be better. and it really did prove
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  • Better. and it really did prove to be that way. and when i
  • 00:16:36.185 --> 00:16:37.753
  • To be that way. and when i started on television, i don't
  • 00:16:37.820 --> 00:16:40.789
  • Started on television, i don't know how to describe it, other
  • 00:16:40.856 --> 00:16:42.024
  • Know how to describe it, other than that's the start of my
  • 00:16:42.091 --> 00:16:43.392
  • Than that's the start of my ministry. everything up until
  • 00:16:43.459 --> 00:16:44.960
  • Ministry. everything up until that time was to prepare me. but
  • 00:16:45.027 --> 00:16:47.596
  • That time was to prepare me. but when we started on television,
  • 00:16:47.663 --> 00:16:48.997
  • When we started on television, man, we just started seeing
  • 00:16:49.064 --> 00:16:50.466
  • Man, we just started seeing miraculous results. we broke
  • 00:16:50.532 --> 00:16:52.234
  • Miraculous results. we broke records all of the time.
  • 00:16:52.301 --> 00:16:54.470
  • Records all of the time. and, stephen, you've been
  • 00:16:54.536 --> 00:16:55.571
  • And, stephen, you've been an integral part of that.
  • 00:16:55.637 --> 00:16:57.639
  • An integral part of that. >> you know, i, i represent...
  • 00:16:57.706 --> 00:17:00.409
  • >> you know, i, i represent... i... i'm so honored to have
  • 00:17:00.476 --> 00:17:04.446
  • I... i'm so honored to have started at the beg... at the
  • 00:17:04.513 --> 00:17:05.647
  • Started at the beg... at the beginning when it was so small.
  • 00:17:05.714 --> 00:17:06.849
  • Beginning when it was so small. but to see it today, i'm
  • 00:17:06.915 --> 00:17:09.585
  • But to see it today, i'm representing, what, 800, 900
  • 00:17:09.651 --> 00:17:12.020
  • People who are behind the scenes
  • 00:17:13.155 --> 00:17:14.723
  • People who are behind the scenes here. i'm a behind-the-scenes
  • 00:17:14.790 --> 00:17:16.592
  • Here. i'm a behind-the-scenes person. you drug me out here.
  • 00:17:16.658 --> 00:17:18.994
  • Person. you drug me out here. now, now, now people will know
  • 00:17:19.061 --> 00:17:20.295
  • Now, now, now people will know who i am. and i also was
  • 00:17:20.362 --> 00:17:22.364
  • Who i am. and i also was the only employee...
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  • >> yeah, i was thinking...
  • 00:17:24.133 --> 00:17:24.666
  • >> yeah, i was thinking... >> ...for six months.
  • 00:17:24.733 --> 00:17:25.601
  • >> ...for six months. >> i was thinking about that
  • 00:17:25.667 --> 00:17:26.802
  • >> i was thinking about that because when we first started,
  • 00:17:26.869 --> 00:17:28.770
  • Because when we first started, you were the only employee. and
  • 00:17:28.837 --> 00:17:30.439
  • You were the only employee. and then we had a guy in our bible
  • 00:17:30.506 --> 00:17:32.341
  • Then we had a guy in our bible school who had been in
  • 00:17:32.407 --> 00:17:33.175
  • School who had been in prison. and in prison he
  • 00:17:33.242 --> 00:17:35.310
  • Prison. and in prison he learned how to run a camera.
  • 00:17:35.377 --> 00:17:36.378
  • Learned how to run a camera. >> that's right.
  • 00:17:36.445 --> 00:17:37.412
  • >> that's right. >> and he volunteered...
  • 00:17:37.479 --> 00:17:38.447
  • >> and he volunteered... >> dennis.
  • 00:17:38.514 --> 00:17:39.181
  • >> dennis. >> ...to run the camera. so, i
  • 00:17:39.248 --> 00:17:41.116
  • >> ...to run the camera. so, i don't think he was a
  • 00:17:41.183 --> 00:17:41.783
  • Don't think he was a paid employee, was he?
  • 00:17:41.850 --> 00:17:42.951
  • Paid employee, was he? he was a volunteer.
  • 00:17:43.018 --> 00:17:43.785
  • He was a volunteer. >> he was a volunteer.
  • 00:17:43.852 --> 00:17:44.953
  • >> he was a volunteer. >> and so you were the only
  • 00:17:45.020 --> 00:17:46.155
  • >> and so you were the only employee. and after you would
  • 00:17:46.221 --> 00:17:48.257
  • Employee. and after you would set up the set, control all of
  • 00:17:48.323 --> 00:17:51.660
  • Set up the set, control all of the lights, do everything, then
  • 00:17:51.727 --> 00:17:55.264
  • You would take the program, and
  • 00:17:55.931 --> 00:17:58.400
  • You did all of the editing.
  • 00:17:58.400 --> 00:17:59.902
  • >> i did all the editing.
  • 00:17:59.902 --> 00:18:00.636
  • >> which you had never
  • 00:18:00.636 --> 00:18:01.203
  • Done that before.
  • 00:18:01.270 --> 00:18:01.904
  • Done that before. >> and i had never done that
  • 00:18:01.970 --> 00:18:02.771
  • >> and i had never done that be... i'd always hired people to
  • 00:18:02.838 --> 00:18:03.639
  • Be... i'd always hired people to do that. so that's why i told
  • 00:18:03.705 --> 00:18:05.474
  • Do that. so that's why i told you i didn't know if this could
  • 00:18:05.541 --> 00:18:06.542
  • You i didn't know if this could be done. but to get it under
  • 00:18:06.608 --> 00:18:07.976
  • Be done. but to get it under budget, this is how it was. now
  • 00:18:08.043 --> 00:18:10.479
  • Budget, this is how it was. now i was willing to hire someone,
  • 00:18:10.546 --> 00:18:12.714
  • I was willing to hire someone, but, but i didn't have to...
  • 00:18:12.781 --> 00:18:13.649
  • But, but i didn't have to... >> we didn't have the money.
  • 00:18:13.715 --> 00:18:14.616
  • >> we didn't have the money. >> ...because i actually was
  • 00:18:14.683 --> 00:18:15.584
  • >> ...because i actually was able to do the programming. and
  • 00:18:15.651 --> 00:18:17.686
  • Able to do the programming. and so, i would... we... you had the
  • 00:18:17.753 --> 00:18:20.489
  • So, i would... we... you had the gift to sit down and deliver two
  • 00:18:20.556 --> 00:18:24.459
  • Gift to sit down and deliver two programs. or, i'm sorry, two
  • 00:18:24.526 --> 00:18:26.628
  • Programs. or, i'm sorry, two weeks of programs in one day. i
  • 00:18:26.695 --> 00:18:30.332
  • Weeks of programs in one day. i would take those two weeks, and
  • 00:18:30.399 --> 00:18:31.967
  • Would take those two weeks, and i would work on them over that
  • 00:18:32.034 --> 00:18:33.535
  • I would work on them over that next two-week period. i would
  • 00:18:33.602 --> 00:18:35.837
  • Next two-week period. i would get them ready for broadcast. i
  • 00:18:35.904 --> 00:18:37.806
  • Get them ready for broadcast. i would print out the labels, put
  • 00:18:37.873 --> 00:18:40.175
  • Would print out the labels, put it on there to insp and send it
  • 00:18:40.242 --> 00:18:43.979
  • It on there to insp and send it in the... in the mail out, in
  • 00:18:44.046 --> 00:18:45.614
  • In the... in the mail out, in the video. just one video.
  • 00:18:45.681 --> 00:18:47.316
  • The video. just one video. that's how we started.
  • 00:18:47.382 --> 00:18:48.750
  • That's how we started. one little beta sp.
  • 00:18:48.817 --> 00:18:51.086
  • One little beta sp. >> but, you know, the lord
  • 00:18:51.153 --> 00:18:51.753
  • >> but, you know, the lord had prepared me, too,
  • 00:18:51.820 --> 00:18:52.988
  • Had prepared me, too, because for 24 years i
  • 00:18:53.055 --> 00:18:55.090
  • Because for 24 years i had been doing radio, which even
  • 00:18:55.157 --> 00:18:58.093
  • Had been doing radio, which even though there's a big difference
  • 00:18:58.160 --> 00:18:59.027
  • Though there's a big difference between television and radio, i
  • 00:18:59.094 --> 00:19:00.629
  • Between television and radio, i learned how to talk to a mic.
  • 00:19:00.696 --> 00:19:03.232
  • Learned how to talk to a mic. >> oh, man.
  • 00:19:03.298 --> 00:19:03.966
  • >> oh, man. >> and i remember the very first
  • 00:19:04.032 --> 00:19:05.467
  • >> and i remember the very first week that we did television, i
  • 00:19:05.534 --> 00:19:08.837
  • Week that we did television, i might have had a ten-minute
  • 00:19:08.904 --> 00:19:10.906
  • Might have had a ten-minute adjustment, but within ten
  • 00:19:10.973 --> 00:19:13.075
  • Adjustment, but within ten minutes i was talking to that
  • 00:19:13.141 --> 00:19:14.776
  • Minutes i was talking to that camera just the same as i talk
  • 00:19:14.843 --> 00:19:17.246
  • Camera just the same as i talk to the radio. and it was a...
  • 00:19:17.312 --> 00:19:19.715
  • To the radio. and it was a... nearly a seamless transition.
  • 00:19:19.781 --> 00:19:21.283
  • Nearly a seamless transition. and you even said in that
  • 00:19:21.350 --> 00:19:22.484
  • And you even said in that little video that we played
  • 00:19:22.551 --> 00:19:23.585
  • Little video that we played yesterday that i learned how to
  • 00:19:23.652 --> 00:19:24.886
  • Yesterday that i learned how to take radio and put it on tv.
  • 00:19:24.953 --> 00:19:27.456
  • Take radio and put it on tv. >> absolutely.
  • 00:19:27.522 --> 00:19:28.156
  • >> absolutely. >> but, you know, god had
  • 00:19:28.223 --> 00:19:28.890
  • >> but, you know, god had prepared both of us for such a
  • 00:19:28.957 --> 00:19:30.392
  • Prepared both of us for such a time as this. and god brought us
  • 00:19:30.459 --> 00:19:32.694
  • Time as this. and god brought us together. and again, you are the
  • 00:19:32.761 --> 00:19:35.297
  • Together. and again, you are the only one. i wanted three
  • 00:19:35.364 --> 00:19:36.698
  • Only one. i wanted three cameras. i was just going to
  • 00:19:36.765 --> 00:19:37.933
  • Cameras. i was just going to model it after the way
  • 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:39.101
  • Model it after the way everybody else did it. and you
  • 00:19:39.167 --> 00:19:40.535
  • Everybody else did it. and you told me, says, no, your
  • 00:19:40.602 --> 00:19:41.870
  • Told me, says, no, your style is it's just like you
  • 00:19:41.937 --> 00:19:43.472
  • Style is it's just like you talking to a person one
  • 00:19:43.538 --> 00:19:45.240
  • Talking to a person one on one. and i remember
  • 00:19:45.307 --> 00:19:46.141
  • Doug neece, who we mentioned
  • 00:19:46.742 --> 00:19:48.176
  • Earlier, and he was our
  • 00:19:48.176 --> 00:19:49.177
  • Media buyer, and he bought
  • 00:19:49.177 --> 00:19:50.712
  • Millions of dollars' worth of
  • 00:19:50.712 --> 00:19:52.214
  • Time for everybody else. we sent
  • 00:19:52.214 --> 00:19:54.149
  • Him our first program to ask his
  • 00:19:54.216 --> 00:19:56.084
  • Him our first program to ask his critique, and he critiqued a
  • 00:19:56.151 --> 00:19:57.919
  • Critique, and he critiqued a couple of things. but then we...
  • 00:19:57.986 --> 00:19:59.721
  • Couple of things. but then we... i remember asking him, so what
  • 00:19:59.788 --> 00:20:00.922
  • I remember asking him, so what did you think about the one
  • 00:20:00.989 --> 00:20:01.857
  • Did you think about the one camera? and he just paused, and
  • 00:20:01.923 --> 00:20:05.160
  • Camera? and he just paused, and he says, what? and i said,
  • 00:20:05.227 --> 00:20:06.461
  • He says, what? and i said, what'd you think about the
  • 00:20:06.528 --> 00:20:07.162
  • What'd you think about the one... he said, was there
  • 00:20:07.229 --> 00:20:08.230
  • One... he said, was there only one camera?
  • 00:20:08.297 --> 00:20:09.498
  • Only one camera? he didn't realize it.
  • 00:20:09.564 --> 00:20:10.966
  • He didn't realize it. >> i had the very same
  • 00:20:11.033 --> 00:20:12.167
  • >> i had the very same conversation with the vice
  • 00:20:12.234 --> 00:20:13.335
  • Conversation with the vice president of billy graham. he
  • 00:20:13.402 --> 00:20:15.404
  • President of billy graham. he saw your program on the road
  • 00:20:15.470 --> 00:20:16.805
  • Saw your program on the road after he knew i'd come to your
  • 00:20:16.872 --> 00:20:18.173
  • After he knew i'd come to your ministry, and he called me and
  • 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:20.175
  • Ministry, and he called me and he says, well, i saw your
  • 00:20:20.242 --> 00:20:21.176
  • He says, well, i saw your program. and, and he said, i
  • 00:20:21.243 --> 00:20:23.312
  • Program. and, and he said, i really enjoyed it. and i said,
  • 00:20:23.378 --> 00:20:24.646
  • Really enjoyed it. and i said, so what did you think of the one
  • 00:20:24.713 --> 00:20:25.914
  • So what did you think of the one camera? it was silence.
  • 00:20:25.981 --> 00:20:28.116
  • Camera? it was silence. >> yeah.
  • 00:20:28.183 --> 00:20:28.850
  • >> yeah. >> it's like, you're kidding.
  • 00:20:28.917 --> 00:20:30.118
  • >> it's like, you're kidding. because it, it's,
  • 00:20:30.185 --> 00:20:32.721
  • Because it, it's, it's the content.
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  • >> when i was very young,
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  • With condemnation.
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  • >> i lost my father when i was
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  • Very young. i tried to pray for
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  • Him to be healed and he didn't,
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  • And instead of doing what
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  • Andrew did, i did exactly
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  • The opposite and became
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  • Very angry with god and
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  • Walked away from god.
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  • >> i said to god, god,
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  • Andrew believes that i can
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  • Be healed, but i need to
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  • Believe that. i need to
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  • Believe like he believes.
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  • >> part of my story is that i
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  • Terminated three children
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  • Before, before my healing.
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  • >> learning the truth about
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  • God's grace, learning the truth
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  • About god's love set me free
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  • From the condemnation.
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  • >> and it eventually led to the
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  • Fact that i got bold enough
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  • That i believe that i would be
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  • Able to pray for people.
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  • >> looking back, i see that
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  • God was renewing my mind
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  • And increasing my faith.
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  • >> and andrew taught me
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  • About god's love through his
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  • Teachings and through that
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  • I can't thank him
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  • Enough for changing my
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  • Life, for saving my life.
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  • Music
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  • >> as a nurse and nutritionist,
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  • Vonya's faith was
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  • In the medical community.
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  • Like the gospel's account of the
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  • Woman with the issue of blood,
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  • Vonya would suffer many things
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  • From many physicians until she
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  • Had the faith to reach out to
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  • Jesus for her healing.
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  • >> we went through
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  • That procedure and
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  • I just went to the follow-up
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  • Alone and he sat next to me
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  • Because these are my friends. he
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  • Said, you have cancer. he goes,
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  • I'm so sorry. on the way home, i
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  • Just said out loud in my car,
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  • You made me smart, god. i'm
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  • Going to get out of
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  • This on my own.
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  • >> months passed and vonya's
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  • Condition was only getting
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  • Worse. knowing her days
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  • Were numbered. she was desperate
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  • To try anything, and in the
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  • Middle of a detox session
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  • Researched bentonite clay at the
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  • Suggestion of a doctor. it was
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  • In this search that she would
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  • Find the key to her healing,
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  • Just not in the way
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  • She had ever imagined.
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  • >> i'm laying on the floor,
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  • So sideways, i hit the
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  • Wrong button, and niki ochenski
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  • Pops up on my screen. oh, she's
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  • So happy and she's so perky, and
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  • I am thinking, when is she going
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  • To start talking about clay?
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  • >> when the doctor finally
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  • Came out, he goes, oh, niki.
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  • What happened? jesus
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  • Healed me like i told
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  • You he was going to.
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  • >> i'm like, this is too good to
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  • Be true. you know, so i type
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  • In niki ochenski's obituary.
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  • When i typed that in i didn't
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  • Get anything except more
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  • Testamonies and this
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  • Guy andrew wommack.
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  • >> vonya looked up andrew
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  • Wommack and discovered
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  • A ministry full of resources
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  • Program and dozens
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  • Of healing testimonies.
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  • >> we have to assure
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  • Our heart with the word.
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  • Our heart will condemn us
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  • And our heart will say, well,
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  • You don't have solid proof that
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  • You're anything. well, i would
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  • Just get the word out and i
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  • Would assure my heart. no,
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  • This is what the word
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  • Says. this is my proof.
  • 00:26:46.461 --> 00:26:48.463
  • >> as she renewed her mind with
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  • Scripture, vonya saw radical
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  • Improvements. she took her
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  • Family to colorado to see
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  • The easter performace of god
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  • With us where she met andrew.
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  • >> andrew point-blanked her and
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  • Said, are you healed?
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  • >> i just go, yes i am.
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  • And man, if i could have
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  • Like pulled those words back or
  • 00:27:09.317 --> 00:27:12.353
  • Slapped myself, i would've, but
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  • I knew it was true.
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  • >> today, vonya is walking
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  • In her complete healing
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  • And is continuing in the
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  • Word her entire family is
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  • Experiencing god's
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  • Love like never before.
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