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The Eric Metaxas Radio Show | Guest Rebecca Kiessling | May 16, 2021
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- - ERIC METAXAS: IN THE
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- - ERIC METAXAS: IN THE STUDIO HERE IN NEW YORK,
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- STUDIO HERE IN NEW YORK, REBECCA KIESSLING.
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- THAT DOES NOT DO HER
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- THAT DOES NOT DO HER JUSTICE.
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- JUSTICE. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
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- IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. I DON'T WANNA SAY IT.
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- I DON'T WANNA SAY IT. LET ME JUST SAY, REBECCA,
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- LET ME JUST SAY, REBECCA, FIRST OF ALL, WELCOME.
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- FIRST OF ALL, WELCOME. - REBECCA KIESSLING:
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- - REBECCA KIESSLING: THANK YOU.
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- THANK YOU. - ERIC: AND WHAT IS THE
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- - ERIC: AND WHAT IS THE ONE LINE ON YOU?
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- ONE LINE ON YOU? 'CAUSE I'D RATHER THAT YOU
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- 'CAUSE I'D RATHER THAT YOU SAY IT THAN I SAY IT.
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- - REBECCA: THANK YOU.
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- - REBECCA: THANK YOU. I WAS CONCEIVED WHEN MY
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- I WAS CONCEIVED WHEN MY BIRTH MOTHER WAS ABDUCTED
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- BIRTH MOTHER WAS ABDUCTED AT KNIFEPOINT BY A SERIAL
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- AT KNIFEPOINT BY A SERIAL RAPIST.
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- RAPIST. SHE WENT TO TWO ILLEGAL
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- SHE WENT TO TWO ILLEGAL ABORTIONS, AND I WAS
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- AND I OWE MY BIRTH TO THE
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- AND I OWE MY BIRTH TO THE MICHIGAN LAW WHICH
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- MICHIGAN LAW WHICH PROTECTED ME FOUR YEARS
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- PROTECTED ME FOUR YEARS BEFORE ROE VS. WADE.
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- BEFORE ROE VS. WADE. - ERIC: SO YOU'RE BRAVE
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- - ERIC: SO YOU'RE BRAVE ENOUGH TO PUT YOUR AGE OUT
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- ENOUGH TO PUT YOUR AGE OUT ON THE AIR.
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- ON THE AIR. MOST WOMEN WOULD NOT BE
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- MOST WOMEN WOULD NOT BE BRAVE ENOUGH TO DO THAT.
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- BRAVE ENOUGH TO DO THAT. LET ME JUST SAY, AGAIN,
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- LET ME JUST SAY, AGAIN, YOUR MOTHER WAS ABDUCTED
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- YOUR MOTHER WAS ABDUCTED BY A SERIAL RAPIST--
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- BY A SERIAL RAPIST-- YOU JUST SAID THIS,
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- YOU JUST SAID THIS, BUT I WANT MY AUDIENCE TO
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- BUT I WANT MY AUDIENCE TO BE CLEAR--
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- BE CLEAR-- AND SHE WAS RAPED.
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- AND SHE WAS RAPED. YOU WERE CONCEIVED, AND
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- YOU WERE CONCEIVED, AND DID YOUR MOTHER--
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- DID YOUR MOTHER-- YOUR MOTHER SOUGHT
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- YOUR MOTHER SOUGHT AN ABORTION.
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- AN ABORTION. - REBECCA: YEAH, SHE SAID
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- - REBECCA: YEAH, SHE SAID THERE WERE NO PREGNANCY
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- THERE WERE NO PREGNANCY RESOURCE CENTERS BACK
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- RESOURCE CENTERS BACK THEN, BUT IF THERE HAD
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- THEN, BUT IF THERE HAD BEEN, SHE WOULD'VE GONE,
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- BEEN, SHE WOULD'VE GONE, BUT NOBODY OFFERED HER ANY
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- BUT NOBODY OFFERED HER ANY OTHER HELP OR HOPE,
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- OTHER HELP OR HOPE, JUST ABORTION.
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- JUST ABORTION. - ERIC: SO SHE THOUGHT--
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- - ERIC: SO SHE THOUGHT-- WELL, THERE ARE MANY WOMEN
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- WELL, THERE ARE MANY WOMEN LIKE THAT TODAY.
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- LIKE THAT TODAY. THEY THINK, "I HAVE NO CHOICE."
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- THEY THINK, "I HAVE NO CHOICE." PEOPLE TALK ABOUT
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- PEOPLE TALK ABOUT CHOICE.
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- CHOICE. MOST WOMEN THINK, "I HAVE
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- MOST WOMEN THINK, "I HAVE NO CHOICE.
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- NO CHOICE. I HAVE TO GET AN ABORTION."
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- I HAVE TO GET AN ABORTION." AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
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- AND SO THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. SO WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR
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- SO WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR MOTHER?
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- MOTHER? SHE'S PREGNANT WITH YOU.
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- SHE'S PREGNANT WITH YOU. SHE'S, OBVIOUSLY, NOT
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- SHE'S, OBVIOUSLY, NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS.
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- HAPPY ABOUT THIS. THIS IS NOT THE SORT OF
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- THIS IS NOT THE SORT OF THING THAT ANYBODY WISHES
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- THING THAT ANYBODY WISHES ON THEMSELVES TO BE RAPED
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- ON THEMSELVES TO BE RAPED AND IMPREGNATED, AND SO
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- AND IMPREGNATED, AND SO YOU SAID SHE WENT TO TWO
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- YOU SAID SHE WENT TO TWO ABORTION CLINICS IN MICHIGAN.
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- ABORTION CLINICS IN MICHIGAN. WHAT HAPPENED?
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- WHAT HAPPENED? - REBECCA: WELL, FOR THE
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- - REBECCA: WELL, FOR THE FIRST, IT WAS A DOCTOR'S
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- FIRST, IT WAS A DOCTOR'S OFFICE, OB-GYN.
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- OFFICE, OB-GYN. SHE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE
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- SHE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE BACK DOOR, AND LIKE MANY
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- BACK DOOR, AND LIKE MANY LEGAL ABORTION CLINICS
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- LEGAL ABORTION CLINICS TODAY, IT WAS DEPLORABLE.
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- TODAY, IT WAS DEPLORABLE. THERE, YOU KNOW, WAS BLOOD
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- THERE, YOU KNOW, WAS BLOOD AND DIRT ON THE FLOOR AND
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- AND DIRT ON THE FLOOR AND ON THE TABLE, AND THOSE
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- ON THE TABLE, AND THOSE CONDITIONS AND THE FACT
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- CONDITIONS AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS ILLEGAL CAUSED
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- THAT IT WAS ILLEGAL CAUSED HER TO BACK OUT AS IT
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- HER TO BACK OUT AS IT DID WITH MOST WOMEN, AND
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- DID WITH MOST WOMEN, AND THEN IT WAS--
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- THEN IT WAS-- - ERIC: BUT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
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- - ERIC: BUT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. IN OTHER WORDS, IT WAS SO
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- IN OTHER WORDS, IT WAS SO HORRIBLE THAT SHE BACKED OUT?
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- HORRIBLE THAT SHE BACKED OUT? - REBECCA: YEAH.
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- - REBECCA: YEAH. - ERIC: I'VE HEARD THIS.
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- - ERIC: I'VE HEARD THIS. FRIENDS OF MINE HAVE TOLD
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- FRIENDS OF MINE HAVE TOLD ME STORIES ABOUT, YOU
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- ME STORIES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GETTING ABORTIONS OR
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- KNOW, GETTING ABORTIONS OR WHATEVER, AND IT CAN BE
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- WHATEVER, AND IT CAN BE GRUESOME, AND IT FEELS
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- GRUESOME, AND IT FEELS LIKE DEATH.
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- LIKE DEATH. IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW--
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- IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW-- IT'S NOT A HAPPY PROCEDURE.
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- IT'S NOT A HAPPY PROCEDURE. BUT SO IT WAS SO HORRIBLE
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- BUT SO IT WAS SO HORRIBLE THAT YOUR MOTHER LEFT.
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- THAT YOUR MOTHER LEFT. - REBECCA: YES, AND THIS
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- - REBECCA: YES, AND THIS WAS IN JANUARY OF 1969,
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- WAS IN JANUARY OF 1969, AND THEN IT WAS ARRANGED
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- AND THEN IT WAS ARRANGED FOR HER TO GO TO A MORE
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- FOR HER TO GO TO A MORE EXPENSIVE ABORTIONIST, AND
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- EXPENSIVE ABORTIONIST, AND SHE WAS TO MEET SOMEONE AT
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- SHE WAS TO MEET SOMEONE AT NIGHT BY THE DETROIT
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- NIGHT BY THE DETROIT INSTITUTE OF ARTS.
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- INSTITUTE OF ARTS. IRONICALLY, NEXT TO THE
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- IRONICALLY, NEXT TO THE FAMOUS "THINKER" STATUE,
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- FAMOUS "THINKER" STATUE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY PART OF
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- WHICH IS ACTUALLY PART OF A GREATER WORK, CALLED
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- A GREATER WORK, CALLED "THE GATES OF HELL,"
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- "THE GATES OF HELL," FROM DANTE'S "INFERNO,"
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- FROM DANTE'S "INFERNO," WHICH IT WARNS ABOUT ALL
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- WHICH IT WARNS ABOUT ALL WHO ENTER HERE.
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- WHO ENTER HERE. THERE'S NO GOING BACK.
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- THERE'S NO GOING BACK. - ERIC: SO RODIN'S
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- - ERIC: SO RODIN'S "THINKER" STATUE--
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- "THINKER" STATUE-- - REBECCA: OR REPLICA.
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- - REBECCA: OR REPLICA. - ERIC: -- I DIDN'T KNOW
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- - ERIC: -- I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
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- THAT. OKAY, SO SHE HAD TO--
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- OKAY, SO SHE HAD TO-- SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO MEET
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- SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO MEET SOMEONE TO GO TO A
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- SOMEONE TO GO TO A HIGH-END ABORTION CLINIC?
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- HIGH-END ABORTION CLINIC? - REBECCA: AND THEY WOULD
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- - REBECCA: AND THEY WOULD APPROACH HER, SAY HER
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- APPROACH HER, SAY HER NAME, BLINDFOLD HER, PUT
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- NAME, BLINDFOLD HER, PUT HER IN THE BACKSEAT OF A
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- HER IN THE BACKSEAT OF A CAR, TAKE HER SOMEWHERE TO
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- CAR, TAKE HER SOMEWHERE TO ABORT ME.
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- ABORT ME. BLINDFOLD HER, GONNA DROP
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- BLINDFOLD HER, GONNA DROP HER BACK OFF, AND SHE WAS
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- HER BACK OFF, AND SHE WAS TOLD, IF SHE WAS FURTHER
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- TOLD, IF SHE WAS FURTHER ALONG THAN THOUGHT OR IF
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- ALONG THAN THOUGHT OR IF THERE ARE ANY
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- THERE ARE ANY COMPLICATIONS, THEY WOULD
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- COMPLICATIONS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO KEEP HER
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- HAVE TO KEEP HER OVERNIGHT, AND SHE WAS
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- OVERNIGHT, AND SHE WAS TERRIFIED FOR HER SAFETY.
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- TERRIFIED FOR HER SAFETY. - ERIC: AND HOW FAR ALONG
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- - ERIC: AND HOW FAR ALONG WAS SHE?
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- WAS SHE? - REBECCA: ABOUT THREE
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- - REBECCA: ABOUT THREE MONTHS.
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- MONTHS. - ERIC: OKAY, IT'S JUST--
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- - ERIC: OKAY, IT'S JUST-- IT'S INTERESTING 'CAUSE
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- IT'S INTERESTING 'CAUSE HERE I AM, TALKING TO YOU,
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- HERE I AM, TALKING TO YOU, RIGHT?
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- RIGHT? AND YOU ARE ALIVE, AND YOU
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- AND YOU ARE ALIVE, AND YOU HAD EXACTLY THE SAME DNA.
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- HAD EXACTLY THE SAME DNA. YOUR BEAUTIFUL EYE COLOR
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- YOUR BEAUTIFUL EYE COLOR WAS ALREADY DETERMINED.
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- WAS ALREADY DETERMINED. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD
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- AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW,
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- SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, "YOU'RE NOT A PERSON.
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- "YOU'RE NOT A PERSON. YOU'RE A CLUMP OF CELLS,"
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- YOU'RE A CLUMP OF CELLS," BUT, OBVIOUSLY, HERE WE ARE.
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- BUT, OBVIOUSLY, HERE WE ARE. YOU SURVIVED THAT ABORTION
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- YOU SURVIVED THAT ABORTION ATTEMPT, SO TO SPEAK--
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- ATTEMPT, SO TO SPEAK-- HOW?
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- HOW? - REBECCA: SHE SPOKE WITH
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- - REBECCA: SHE SPOKE WITH THIS ABORTION DOCTOR ON
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- THIS ABORTION DOCTOR ON THE PHONE, EXPRESSED
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- THE PHONE, EXPRESSED CONCERN FOR HER SAFETY.
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- CONCERN FOR HER SAFETY. HE CALLED HER "STUPID,"
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- HE CALLED HER "STUPID," AND SHE SAID, "YOU'RE
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- AND SHE SAID, "YOU'RE GONNA CALL ME NAMES?
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- GONNA CALL ME NAMES? FORGET IT.
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- FORGET IT. AND HE WENT ON TO SWEAR AT
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- AND HE WENT ON TO SWEAR AT HER PROFUSELY, AND SHE
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- HER PROFUSELY, AND SHE FINALLY JUST HUNG UP THE
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- FINALLY JUST HUNG UP THE PHONE.
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- PHONE. HE CALLED HER BACK THE
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- HE CALLED HER BACK THE NEXT DAY, TRYING TO TALK
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- NEXT DAY, TRYING TO TALK HER INTO ALLOWING HIM TO
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- HER INTO ALLOWING HIM TO TAKE MY LIFE FOR $500, AND
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- TAKE MY LIFE FOR $500, AND THE SAME CONVERSATION TOOK
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- THE SAME CONVERSATION TOOK PLACE, AND SHE HUNG UP THE
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- PLACE, AND SHE HUNG UP THE PHONE.
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- PHONE. THERE'S ACTUALLY A
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- THERE'S ACTUALLY A DOCUMENTARY FILM THAT'S
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- DOCUMENTARY FILM THAT'S USED IN FEMINIST STUDIES
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- USED IN FEMINIST STUDIES ALL OVER THE U.S.
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- ALL OVER THE U.S. AND CANADA.
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- AND CANADA. IT'S THE ONLY FILM MADE
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- IT'S THE ONLY FILM MADE ABOUT THE BACK-ALLEY
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- ABOUT THE BACK-ALLEY NETWORK PRIOR TO ROE, AND
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- NETWORK PRIOR TO ROE, AND IT'S CALLED "BACK ALLEY
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- IT'S CALLED "BACK ALLEY DETROIT."
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- DETROIT." I CAN WATCH THIS FILM AND
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- I CAN WATCH THIS FILM AND SEE THE MEN WHO WERE GOING TO
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- SEE THE MEN WHO WERE GOING TO TAKE MY LIFE.
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- TAKE MY LIFE. I KNOW ALL THE DETAILS OF
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- I KNOW ALL THE DETAILS OF MY IMPENDING DEATH.
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- MY IMPENDING DEATH. YOU KNOW, THAT WAS MY
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- YOU KNOW, THAT WAS MY LIFE-CHANGING, NEAR-DEATH
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- LIFE-CHANGING, NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE, AND THE FACT
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- EXPERIENCE, AND THE FACT THAT I WAS YOUNGER DOESN'T
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- THAT I WAS YOUNGER DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY LESS REAL OR
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- MAKE IT ANY LESS REAL OR ANY LESS SIGNIFICANT THAN
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- ANY LESS SIGNIFICANT THAN SOMEONE WAKING UP OUT OF A
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- SOMEONE WAKING UP OUT OF A COMA TO FIND OUT THEY'RE
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- COMA TO FIND OUT THEY'RE ALMOST KILLED.
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- ALMOST KILLED. - ERIC: I HAVE A FRIEND
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- - ERIC: I HAVE A FRIEND PAUL MICHALSKI, A DEAR
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- PAUL MICHALSKI, A DEAR FRIEND.
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- FRIEND. HE WAS AT THE CHRISTIAN
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- HE WAS AT THE CHRISTIAN LEGAL SOCIETY NATIONAL
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- LEGAL SOCIETY NATIONAL CONFERENCE, AND HE HEARD
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- CONFERENCE, AND HE HEARD YOU SPEAK, AND HE'S THE
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- YOU SPEAK, AND HE'S THE ONE THAT URGED ME TO HAVE
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- ONE THAT URGED ME TO HAVE YOU ON, AND I REALIZE THAT
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- YOU ON, AND I REALIZE THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW WOMEN
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- THERE ARE VERY FEW WOMEN WHO WERE CONCEIVED IN
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- WHO WERE CONCEIVED IN RAPE, WHO ARE TALKING
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- RAPE, WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, AND, YOU KNOW,
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- ABOUT IT, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU BECOME THE POSTER
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- YOU BECOME THE POSTER CHILD FOR SOMETHING THAT
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- CHILD FOR SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT
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- WE DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT IN AMERICA.
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- IN AMERICA. YOU SAID THAT YOU CONVINCED
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- YOU SAID THAT YOU CONVINCED GOVERNOR RICK PERRY,
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- GOVERNOR RICK PERRY, THEN GOVERNOR OF TEXAS,
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- THEN GOVERNOR OF TEXAS, TO CHANGE HIS VIEWS
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- TO CHANGE HIS VIEWS ON THIS.
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- ON THIS. TELL US ABOUT THAT.
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- TELL US ABOUT THAT. - REBECCA: AND NEWT GINGRICH.
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- - REBECCA: AND NEWT GINGRICH. I'M IN THE CITIZENS UNITED
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- I'M IN THE CITIZENS UNITED FILM, "THE GIFT OF LIFE,"
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- FILM, "THE GIFT OF LIFE," WITH GOVERNOR MIKE
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- WITH GOVERNOR MIKE HUCKABEE, AND MINE IS ONE
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- HUCKABEE, AND MINE IS ONE OF SEVERAL FEATURED IN THE
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- OF SEVERAL FEATURED IN THE FILM.
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- FILM. IT'S WHAT THEIR PREMIER--
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- IT'S WHAT THEIR PREMIER-- THERE WERE FOUR
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- THERE WERE FOUR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES IN
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- PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES IN DES MOINES, AND I HAD
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- DES MOINES, AND I HAD BACKSTAGE PASSES.
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- BACKSTAGE PASSES. - ERIC: THIS IS BACK IN
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- - ERIC: THIS IS BACK IN 2012, OR WHEN?
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- 2012, OR WHEN? - REBECCA: YEAH, YES,
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- - REBECCA: YEAH, YES, AND SO I HAD BACKSTAGE
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- AND SO I HAD BACKSTAGE PASSES,
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- PASSES, INTRODUCED MYSELF TO EACH,
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- INTRODUCED MYSELF TO EACH, TOLD THEM THAT I'M THE
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- TOLD THEM THAT I'M THE NATIONAL SPOKESWOMAN FOR
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- NATIONAL SPOKESWOMAN FOR PERSONHOOD, AND RIGHT AWAY
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- PERSONHOOD, AND RIGHT AWAY YOU HAD TWO OF THEM
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- YOU HAD TWO OF THEM SAYING, BACHMANN AND
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- SAYING, BACHMANN AND SANTORUM SAID, "OH, I
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- SANTORUM SAID, "OH, I SIGNED THE PLEDGE."
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- SIGNED THE PLEDGE." THERE WAS A "NO EXCEPTIONS,
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- THERE WAS A "NO EXCEPTIONS, NO COMPROMISE" PLEDGE THAT
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- NO COMPROMISE" PLEDGE THAT CAME OUT--
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- CAME OUT-- - ERIC: BACHMANN--
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- - ERIC: BACHMANN-- - REBECCA: AND SANTORUM.
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- - REBECCA: AND SANTORUM. - ERIC: OKAY, SO MICHELE
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- - ERIC: OKAY, SO MICHELE BACHMANN AND SENATOR
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- BACHMANN AND SENATOR RICK SANTORUM.
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- RICK SANTORUM. YOU WOULD EXPECT THEM
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- YOU WOULD EXPECT THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY
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- BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY STAUNCHLY CLEARLY PRO-LIFE.
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- STAUNCHLY CLEARLY PRO-LIFE. SO WHO WAS NOT CLEAR ON
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- SO WHO WAS NOT CLEAR ON THIS ISSUE?
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- THIS ISSUE? - REBECCA: GINGRICH AND
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- - REBECCA: GINGRICH AND PERRY.
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- PERRY. - ERIC: OKAY, NEWT
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- - ERIC: OKAY, NEWT GINGRICH AND GOVERNOR
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- GINGRICH AND GOVERNOR RICK PERRY, OKAY.
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- RICK PERRY, OKAY. - REBECCA: YEAH, AND I
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- - REBECCA: YEAH, AND I INTRODUCED MYSELF TO EACH,
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- INTRODUCED MYSELF TO EACH, AND I HANDED THEM MY
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- AND I HANDED THEM MY BUSINESS CARD, "CONCEIVED
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- BUSINESS CARD, "CONCEIVED IN RAPE, TARGETED FOR
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- IN RAPE, TARGETED FOR ABORTION," YOU KNOW,
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- ABORTION," YOU KNOW, SUBTLE.
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- SUBTLE. - ERIC: ON THE CARD?
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- - ERIC: ON THE CARD? - REBECCA: YEAH.
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- - REBECCA: YEAH. - ERIC: JUST IN CASE THEY
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- - ERIC: JUST IN CASE THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME,
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- DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME, THEY GET IT RIGHT UP
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- THEY GET IT RIGHT UP FRONT.
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- FRONT. - REBECCA: YEAH, AND MY
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- - REBECCA: YEAH, AND MY DVDS, AND GOVERNOR PERRY
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- DVDS, AND GOVERNOR PERRY ASKED ME IF I WOULD
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- ASKED ME IF I WOULD AUTOGRAPH HIS DVD.
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- AUTOGRAPH HIS DVD. I TOLD HIM THAT "I'M IN
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- I TOLD HIM THAT "I'M IN TONIGHT'S FILM," AND SO I
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- TONIGHT'S FILM," AND SO I WROTE, "100% PRO-LIFE,"
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- WROTE, "100% PRO-LIFE," AND HE ASKED ME MORE
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- AND HE ASKED ME MORE QUESTIONS, AND I TOLD HIM,
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- QUESTIONS, AND I TOLD HIM, AS AN ATTORNEY, I'VE
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- AS AN ATTORNEY, I'VE LITIGATED NUMEROUS
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- LITIGATED NUMEROUS HIGH-PROFILE CASES
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- HIGH-PROFILE CASES DEFENDING HUMAN LIFE.
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- DEFENDING HUMAN LIFE. - ERIC: I DIDN'T KNOW
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- - ERIC: I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU ARE AN ATTORNEY.
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- THAT YOU ARE AN ATTORNEY. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
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- I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. YOU'RE NOT JUST A
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- YOU'RE NOT JUST A PRO-LIFE SPEAKER, BUT YOU
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- PRO-LIFE SPEAKER, BUT YOU ARE INVOLVED IN THIS
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- - REBECCA: YES, YES, AND
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- - REBECCA: YES, YES, AND I WROTE A PHILOSOPHICAL
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- I WROTE A PHILOSOPHICAL ABORTION ESSAY IN LAW
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- ABORTION ESSAY IN LAW SCHOOL THAT'S BEEN RANKED
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- SCHOOL THAT'S BEEN RANKED ANYWHERE FROM NUMBER ONE
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- ANYWHERE FROM NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER THREE, IF YOU
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- SO I'VE BEEN INTERESTED
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- SO I'VE BEEN INTERESTED IN FINDING A WAY TO END
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- IN FINDING A WAY TO END ABORTION FROM A VERY
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- THIS HAS BEEN MY PASSION.
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- THIS HAS BEEN MY PASSION. - ERIC: NOW, WHAT
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- - ERIC: NOW, WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU THEN?
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- HAPPENED TO YOU THEN? SO YOUR MOTHER OBVIOUSLY
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- SO YOUR MOTHER OBVIOUSLY HAD YOU UNDER VERY
- 00:07:46.549 --> 00:07:47.517
- HAD YOU UNDER VERY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES,
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- DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES, AND WHAT HAPPENED?
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- AND WHAT HAPPENED? SHE GAVE YOU UP FOR
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- SHE GAVE YOU UP FOR ADOPTION?
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- ADOPTION? - REBECCA: YES.
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- - REBECCA: YES. - ERIC: PEOPLE FORGET
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- - ERIC: PEOPLE FORGET THAT YOU CAN DO THAT, RIGHT?
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- THAT YOU CAN DO THAT, RIGHT? YOU CAN HAVE THE HUMAN
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- YOU CAN HAVE THE HUMAN BEING AND GIVE THE CHILD
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- BEING AND GIVE THE CHILD UP FOR ADOPTION, AND SO,
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- UP FOR ADOPTION, AND SO, OBVIOUSLY, YOU WERE RAISED
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- OBVIOUSLY, YOU WERE RAISED VERY WELL AND TURNED OUT
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- VERY WELL AND TURNED OUT SPECTACULARLY, AND NOW
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- SPECTACULARLY, AND NOW YOU'RE A MOTHER YOURSELF.
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- YOU'RE A MOTHER YOURSELF. - REBECCA: YES, I HAVE
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- - REBECCA: YES, I HAVE TWO ADOPTED CHILDREN AND
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- TWO ADOPTED CHILDREN AND THREE BIOLOGICAL
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- THREE BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTERS, AND I ALSO HAVE
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- DAUGHTERS, AND I ALSO HAVE AN ADOPTED DAUGHTER IN
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- AN ADOPTED DAUGHTER IN HEAVEN, CASSIE, WHO DIED.
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- HEAVEN, CASSIE, WHO DIED. SHE HAD A SERIOUS GENETIC
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- SHE HAD A SERIOUS GENETIC DISORDER, AND SHE WAS
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- DISORDER, AND SHE WAS ABSOLUTELY PRECIOUS; AND
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- ABSOLUTELY PRECIOUS; AND THEN TWO, WHO I MISCARRIED.
- 00:08:21.751 --> 00:08:23.987
- THEN TWO, WHO I MISCARRIED. - ERIC: YOU-- I MEAN,
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- - ERIC: YOU-- I MEAN, THAT'S, TO ME, A BIG PART
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- THAT'S, TO ME, A BIG PART OF THE STORY OF ABORTION
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- OF THE STORY OF ABORTION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN
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- IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT A
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- YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT A LIFE IS-- PEOPLE TALK
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- LIFE IS-- PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE INFINITE VALUE
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- ABOUT THE INFINITE VALUE OF LIFE.
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- OF LIFE. PART OF THE INFINITE VALUE
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- PART OF THE INFINITE VALUE OF LIFE IS THAT EVERY LIFE
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- OF LIFE IS THAT EVERY LIFE IS POTENTIALLY THE MOTHER
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- IS POTENTIALLY THE MOTHER OR FATHER OF INFINITE LIFE.
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- OR FATHER OF INFINITE LIFE. YOU ARE THE MOTHER OF
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- YOU ARE THE MOTHER OF BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, NONE
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- BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN, NONE OF WHOM WOULD EXIST, NOR
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- OF WHOM WOULD EXIST, NOR WILL THEIR CHILDREN EXIST,
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- WILL THEIR CHILDREN EXIST, UNLESS YOUR MOTHER HAD
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- UNLESS YOUR MOTHER HAD BEEN WILLING TO BRING YOU
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- BEEN WILLING TO BRING YOU INTO THE WORLD.
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- INTO THE WORLD. IT'S AN AMAZING THING.
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- IT'S AN AMAZING THING. - REBECCA: WELL, SHE
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- - REBECCA: WELL, SHE DIDN'T CHOOSE LIFE FOR ME.
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- DIDN'T CHOOSE LIFE FOR ME. WHEN WE MET, SHE WAS
- 00:09:00.323 --> 00:09:01.357
- WHEN WE MET, SHE WAS PRO-CHOICE AND TOLD ME IT
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- PRO-CHOICE AND TOLD ME IT SHOULD'VE BEEN HER RIGHT.
- 00:09:02.425 --> 00:09:03.092
- SHOULD'VE BEEN HER RIGHT. - ERIC: WAIT A MINUTE,
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- - ERIC: WAIT A MINUTE, YOU MEAN THAT YOU DID MEET
- 00:09:04.160 --> 00:09:05.862
- YOU MEAN THAT YOU DID MEET YOUR BIRTH MOTHER?
- 00:09:05.862 --> 00:09:06.629
- YOUR BIRTH MOTHER? - REBECCA: YES, WE HAVE A
- 00:09:06.629 --> 00:09:08.765
- - REBECCA: YES, WE HAVE A VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP
- 00:09:08.765 --> 00:09:09.432
- VERY CLOSE RELATIONSHIP TODAY, AND SIX YEARS AFTER
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- TODAY, AND SIX YEARS AFTER WE MET, SHE CHANGED HER
- 00:09:10.033 --> 00:09:11.568
- WE MET, SHE CHANGED HER MIND ABOUT ABORTION, BUT
- 00:09:11.568 --> 00:09:13.636
- MIND ABOUT ABORTION, BUT SHE WAS ABSOLUTELY CLEAR
- 00:09:13.636 --> 00:09:14.470
- SHE WAS ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
- 00:09:14.470 --> 00:09:15.104
- THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HER RIGHT.
- 00:09:15.104 --> 00:09:15.705
- HER RIGHT. - ERIC: SHE WAS UPSET
- 00:09:15.705 --> 00:09:17.173
- - ERIC: SHE WAS UPSET THAT SHE WASN'T ABLE TO
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- THAT SHE WASN'T ABLE TO HAVE THE ABORTION?
- 00:09:20.677 --> 00:09:22.979
- HAVE THE ABORTION? - REBECCA: RIGHT.
- 00:09:22.979 --> 00:09:23.646
- - REBECCA: RIGHT. - ERIC: AND YOU SAY SHE'S
- 00:09:23.646 --> 00:09:24.480
- - ERIC: AND YOU SAY SHE'S CHANGED HER MIND
- 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:26.783
- CHANGED HER MIND EVENTUALLY ON THAT?
- 00:09:26.783 --> 00:09:27.417
- EVENTUALLY ON THAT? - REBECCA: YEAH, AND
- 00:09:27.417 --> 00:09:29.519
- - REBECCA: YEAH, AND SHE'S SO THANKFUL NOW.
- 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:30.520
- SHE'S SO THANKFUL NOW. - ERIC: I WOULD THINK SO.
- 00:09:30.520 --> 00:09:31.087
- - ERIC: I WOULD THINK SO. BUT IT IS INTERESTING
- 00:09:31.087 --> 00:09:32.121
- BUT IT IS INTERESTING 'CAUSE SHE CHOSE, IT SEEMS
- 00:09:32.121 --> 00:09:34.857
- 'CAUSE SHE CHOSE, IT SEEMS TO ME, NOT TO HAVE THE
- 00:09:34.857 --> 00:09:36.059
- TO ME, NOT TO HAVE THE ABORTION, SO IT'S INTERESTING.
- 00:09:36.059 --> 00:09:36.859
- ABORTION, SO IT'S INTERESTING. - REBECCA: NO, SHE CHOSE
- 00:09:36.859 --> 00:09:38.328
- - REBECCA: NO, SHE CHOSE ABORTION.
- 00:09:38.328 --> 00:09:39.095
- ABORTION. SHE WAS ONLY AFRAID FOR
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- SHE WAS ONLY AFRAID FOR HER OWN SAFETY.
- 00:09:41.731 --> 00:09:42.298
- HER OWN SAFETY. - ERIC: OKAY, NOW I'M
- 00:09:42.298 --> 00:09:42.832
- - ERIC: OKAY, NOW I'M GETTING IT.
- 00:09:42.832 --> 00:09:44.701
- GETTING IT. SO THAT IS AMAZING.
- 00:09:44.701 --> 00:09:46.502
- SO THAT IS AMAZING. SO SHE WAS SIMPLY AFRAID
- 00:09:46.502 --> 00:09:47.337
- SO SHE WAS SIMPLY AFRAID FOR HER OWN SAFETY, AND
- 00:09:47.337 --> 00:09:48.471
- FOR HER OWN SAFETY, AND IT'S WHY SHE CARRIED YOU
- 00:09:48.471 --> 00:09:49.339
- IT'S WHY SHE CARRIED YOU TO TERM.
- 00:09:49.339 --> 00:09:50.173
- TO TERM. - REBECCA: YEAH, SO I
- 00:09:50.173 --> 00:09:51.708
- - REBECCA: YEAH, SO I LITERALLY OWE MY BIRTH TO
- 00:09:51.708 --> 00:09:52.675
- LITERALLY OWE MY BIRTH TO THE LAW WHICH PROTECTED ME.
- 00:09:52.675 --> 00:09:54.143
- THE LAW WHICH PROTECTED ME. LEGALITY MATTERS, AND I
- 00:09:54.143 --> 00:09:55.979
- LEGALITY MATTERS, AND I WASN'T LUCKY.
- 00:09:55.979 --> 00:09:58.181
- WASN'T LUCKY. I WAS PROTECTED.
- 00:09:58.181 --> 00:09:59.582
- I WAS PROTECTED. - ERIC: ISN'T THAT AMAZING?
- 00:09:59.582 --> 00:10:00.984
- - ERIC: ISN'T THAT AMAZING? THE LAW PROTECTED YOU FROM
- 00:10:00.984 --> 00:10:03.052
- THE LAW PROTECTED YOU FROM BEING "MURDERED LEGALLY,"
- 00:10:03.052 --> 00:10:05.722
- BEING "MURDERED LEGALLY," QUOTE, UNQUOTE, AND NOW WE
- 00:10:05.722 --> 00:10:07.924
- QUOTE, UNQUOTE, AND NOW WE HAVE A NATIONAL LAW CALLED
- 00:10:07.924 --> 00:10:08.758
- HAVE A NATIONAL LAW CALLED ROE V. WADE,
- 00:10:08.758 --> 00:10:11.294
- ROE V. WADE, THAT NO LONGER
- 00:10:11.294 --> 00:10:12.328
- THAT NO LONGER PROTECTS PEOPLE LIKE YOU
- 00:10:12.328 --> 00:10:13.363
- PROTECTS PEOPLE LIKE YOU FROM BEING KILLED.
- 00:10:13.363 --> 00:10:14.797
- FROM BEING KILLED. - REBECCA: NO, IN ROE V. WADE,
- 00:10:14.797 --> 00:10:16.432
- - REBECCA: NO, IN ROE V. WADE, FOOTNOTE 54, THE COURT
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- FOOTNOTE 54, THE COURT POINTED OUT HOW
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- POINTED OUT HOW EXCEPTIONS UNDERMINE THE
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- EXCEPTIONS UNDERMINE THE WHOLE ARGUMENT FOR
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- WHOLE ARGUMENT FOR PERSONHOOD.
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- PERSONHOOD. - ERIC: WELL, NOW THAT'S
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- - ERIC: WELL, NOW THAT'S A BIG-- THAT'S A BIG POINT.
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- A BIG-- THAT'S A BIG POINT. WE'RE GONNA GO TO A BREAK,
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- WE'RE GONNA GO TO A BREAK, BUT WHEN WE COME BACK.
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- BUT WHEN WE COME BACK. I WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT.
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- I WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT. WHAT IS THE WEBSITE?
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- WHAT IS THE WEBSITE? YOU HAVE A WEBSITE?
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- YOU HAVE A WEBSITE? - REBECCA:
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- - REBECCA: REBECCAKIESSLING.COM, AND
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- REBECCAKIESSLING.COM, AND SAVETHE1.COM, AND THAT'S
- 00:10:34.050 --> 00:10:34.751
- SAVETHE1.COM, AND THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE.
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- THE NUMBER ONE. - ERIC: OKAY, REBECCA
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- - ERIC: OKAY, REBECCA KIESSLING,
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- KIESSLING, K-I-E-S-S-L-I-N-G,
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- K-I-E-S-S-L-I-N-G, REBECCAKIESSLING.COM.
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- REBECCAKIESSLING.COM. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK TO
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- - [MUSIC]
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- - ERIC: HEY THERE, FOLKS,
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- - ERIC: HEY THERE, FOLKS, IT'S "THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."
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- IT'S "THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW." I'M TALKING TO
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- I'M TALKING TO REBECCA KIESSLING.
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- REBECCA KIESSLING. WHAT A STORY.
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- WHAT A STORY. REBECCA, YOU'RE THE
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- REBECCA, YOU'RE THE NATIONAL SPOKESWOMAN FOR--
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- NATIONAL SPOKESWOMAN FOR-- AND THE EXECUTIVE
- 00:10:56.233 --> 00:10:57.201
- AND THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE BOARD MEMBER OF
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- COMMITTEE BOARD MEMBER OF PERSONHOOD ALLIANCE.
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- PERSONHOOD ALLIANCE. WE WERE TALKING A MOMENT
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- WE WERE TALKING A MOMENT AGO ABOUT HOW THE
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- AGO ABOUT HOW THE EXCEPTIONS UNDERMINE THE
- 00:11:01.805 --> 00:11:04.074
- IN OTHER WORDS, IF I SAY,
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- IN OTHER WORDS, IF I SAY, "A HUMAN BEING CONCEIVED
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- "A HUMAN BEING CONCEIVED IN RAPE CAN LEGALLY BE
- 00:11:09.413 --> 00:11:11.248
- IN RAPE CAN LEGALLY BE KILLED IN AN ABORTION
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- KILLED IN AN ABORTION CLINIC," I'M REALLY SAYING
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- CLINIC," I'M REALLY SAYING THAT IT'S NOT A PERSON OR,
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- THAT IT'S NOT A PERSON OR, IF IT IS A PERSON, IT'S A
- 00:11:15.686 --> 00:11:16.653
- IF IT IS A PERSON, IT'S A PERSON THAT'S UNEQUAL TO
- 00:11:16.653 --> 00:11:18.355
- PERSON THAT'S UNEQUAL TO SOMEONE WHO IS NOT
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- SOMEONE WHO IS NOT CONCEIVED IN RAPE.
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- CONCEIVED IN RAPE. - REBECCA: RIGHT, BECAUSE
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- - REBECCA: RIGHT, BECAUSE THE 14TH AMENDMENT SAYS
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- THE 14TH AMENDMENT SAYS THAT "NO STATE SHALL DENY
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- THAT "NO STATE SHALL DENY A PERSON EQUAL PROTECTION
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- A PERSON EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS, AND NO STATE
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- OF THE LAWS, AND NO STATE SHALL DEPRIVE A PERSON OF
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- SHALL DEPRIVE A PERSON OF THEIR RIGHT TO LIFE
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- THEIR RIGHT TO LIFE WITHOUT DUE PROCESS."
- 00:11:32.836 --> 00:11:33.871
- WITHOUT DUE PROCESS." AND SO IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE
- 00:11:33.871 --> 00:11:34.872
- AND SO IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE 14TH AMENDMENT, THEN YOU
- 00:11:34.872 --> 00:11:36.407
- 14TH AMENDMENT, THEN YOU CAN'T DENY A PERSON EQUAL
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- CAN'T DENY A PERSON EQUAL PROTECTION, AND THAT'S
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- PROTECTION, AND THAT'S WHAT IT DOES.
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- WHAT IT DOES. WHEN YOU ALLOW EXCEPTIONS,
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- WHEN YOU ALLOW EXCEPTIONS, YOU ARE WILLING TO ENGAGE,
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- YOU ARE WILLING TO ENGAGE, REALLY, IN CHILD
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- REALLY, IN CHILD SACRIFICE.
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- SACRIFICE. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SAYING
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- YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE WILLING TO
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- YOU'RE WILLING TO SACRIFICE THE LIFE OF THIS
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- SACRIFICE THE LIFE OF THIS CHILD CONCEIVED IN RAPE.
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- CHILD CONCEIVED IN RAPE. - ERIC: PEOPLE DON'T
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- - ERIC: PEOPLE DON'T OFTEN SAY, YOU KNOW, THE
- 00:11:52.423 --> 00:11:53.590
- OFTEN SAY, YOU KNOW, THE MOST BASIC THING, "TWO
- 00:11:53.590 --> 00:11:54.691
- MOST BASIC THING, "TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT."
- 00:11:54.691 --> 00:11:55.993
- WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT." EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT
- 00:11:55.993 --> 00:11:58.362
- EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT RAPE IS EVIL AND
- 00:11:58.362 --> 00:12:00.230
- RAPE IS EVIL AND WRONG, BUT MURDER OR
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- WRONG, BUT MURDER OR KILLING AN INNOCENT HUMAN
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- KILLING AN INNOCENT HUMAN BEING IS ALSO EVIL AND
- 00:12:04.835 --> 00:12:05.769
- BEING IS ALSO EVIL AND WRONG, SO THE IDEA THAT
- 00:12:05.769 --> 00:12:08.038
- WRONG, SO THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN UNDO THE EVIL OF
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- YOU CAN UNDO THE EVIL OF RAPE BY DESTROYING THE
- 00:12:10.641 --> 00:12:11.775
- RAPE BY DESTROYING THE EVIDENCE, WHICH MEANS
- 00:12:11.775 --> 00:12:12.743
- EVIDENCE, WHICH MEANS KILLING A HUMAN BEING,
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- KILLING A HUMAN BEING, HOW DOES THAT WORK LOGICALLY?
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- HOW DOES THAT WORK LOGICALLY? - REBECCA: IT DOESN'T,
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- - REBECCA: IT DOESN'T, AND, OF COURSE, WE'RE TOLD
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- AND, OF COURSE, WE'RE TOLD IN SCRIPTURE THAT YOU'RE
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- IN SCRIPTURE THAT YOU'RE NOT TO PUNISH THE CHILD
- 00:12:19.082 --> 00:12:20.150
- NOT TO PUNISH THE CHILD FOR THE SINS OF THE
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- FOR THE SINS OF THE FATHER, THAT EACH SHALL BE
- 00:12:21.785 --> 00:12:22.686
- FATHER, THAT EACH SHALL BE PUNISHED ACCORDING TO
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- PUNISHED ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN SINS, AND PEOPLE
- 00:12:23.620 --> 00:12:24.988
- THEIR OWN SINS, AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT.
- 00:12:24.988 --> 00:12:26.690
- UNDERSTAND THAT. WE HAVE A FIVE-STATE STUDY
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- WE HAVE A FIVE-STATE STUDY THAT WAS DONE.
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- THAT WAS DONE. IT WAS COMMISSIONED BY
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- IT WAS COMMISSIONED BY PERSONHOOD AND GEORGIA
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- PERSONHOOD AND GEORGIA RIGHT TO LIFE, AND RIGHT
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- RIGHT TO LIFE, AND RIGHT TO LIFE MICHIGAN, THAT
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- TO LIFE MICHIGAN, THAT SHOWED THAT PEOPLE
- 00:12:31.962 --> 00:12:32.729
- SHOWED THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT, IN A
- 00:12:32.729 --> 00:12:33.864
- UNDERSTAND THAT, IN A CIVILIZED SOCIETY, YOU DO
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- CIVILIZED SOCIETY, YOU DO NOT PUNISH INNOCENT PEOPLE
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- NOT PUNISH INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S CRIME.
- 00:12:36.533 --> 00:12:38.502
- FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S CRIME. THAT'S BARBARIC.
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- THAT'S BARBARIC. - ERIC: WELL, I CONCUR,
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- - ERIC: WELL, I CONCUR, BUT THE ORGANIZATION IS
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- BUT THE ORGANIZATION IS SAVE THE 1, AND HOW DO WE--
- 00:12:44.241 --> 00:12:46.710
- SAVE THE 1, AND HOW DO WE-- WHAT'S THAT WEBSITE?
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- WHAT'S THAT WEBSITE? - REBECCA: THAT'S
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- - REBECCA: THAT'S SAVETHE1.COM, AND THAT'S
- 00:12:48.345 --> 00:12:49.480
- SAVETHE1.COM, AND THAT'S THE NUMBER "1,"
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- THE NUMBER "1," NOT THE WORD "ONE."
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- NOT THE WORD "ONE." - ERIC: OKAY, SO SAVE
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- - ERIC: OKAY, SO SAVE THE 1, NUMERAL "1,"
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- THE 1, NUMERAL "1," SAVETHE1.COM,
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- SAVETHE1.COM, AND TELL US WHERE YOU GET
- 00:12:54.218 --> 00:12:55.752
- AND TELL US WHERE YOU GET THAT IDEA FROM, SAVE THE 1.
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- THAT IDEA FROM, SAVE THE 1. - REBECCA: THERE'S AN
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- - REBECCA: THERE'S AN UNFORTUNATE MOTTO WITHIN
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- UNFORTUNATE MOTTO WITHIN THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT THAT
- 00:12:59.656 --> 00:13:00.891
- THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT THAT "YOU SAVE THE 99 IN
- 00:13:00.891 --> 00:13:02.493
- "YOU SAVE THE 99 IN EXCHANGE FOR THE 1,"
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- EXCHANGE FOR THE 1," AND THEY'LL SAY IT'S A
- 00:13:03.760 --> 00:13:05.062
- AND THEY'LL SAY IT'S A BURNING-BUILDING ANALOGY,
- 00:13:05.062 --> 00:13:08.031
- BURNING-BUILDING ANALOGY, AND, YOU KNOW, "WOULDN'T
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- AND, YOU KNOW, "WOULDN'T YOU SAVE AS MANY AS YOU
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- YOU SAVE AS MANY AS YOU CAN WHILE WORKING TO SAVE ALL?"
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- CAN WHILE WORKING TO SAVE ALL?" WELL, NOBODY'S WORKIN' TO
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- WELL, NOBODY'S WORKIN' TO SAVE ALL.
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- SAVE ALL. I'M FROM MICHIGAN WHERE
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- I'M FROM MICHIGAN WHERE WE'VE NEVER HAD A RAPE
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- WE'VE NEVER HAD A RAPE EXCEPTION.
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- EXCEPTION. YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE
- 00:13:14.838 --> 00:13:15.572
- YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE RAPE EXCEPTIONS.
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- RAPE EXCEPTIONS. MOST STATES HAVE PASSED
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- MOST STATES HAVE PASSED PRO-LIFE LEGISLATION
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- PRO-LIFE LEGISLATION WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS, AND
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- WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS, AND WHAT REALLY HAPPENS IS,
- 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:23.647
- WHAT REALLY HAPPENS IS, IN THE BURNING-BUILDING
- 00:13:23.647 --> 00:13:24.882
- IN THE BURNING-BUILDING ANALOGY, IS THAT YOU HAVE
- 00:13:24.882 --> 00:13:26.083
- ANALOGY, IS THAT YOU HAVE FIREFIGHTERS WHO GO IN FOR
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- FIREFIGHTERS WHO GO IN FOR JOB INTERVIEWS.
- 00:13:26.950 --> 00:13:28.085
- JOB INTERVIEWS. THE POLITICIANS TELL
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- THE POLITICIANS TELL PRO-LIFE LEADERS, "JUST SO
- 00:13:29.286 --> 00:13:30.287
- PRO-LIFE LEADERS, "JUST SO YOU KNOW, I DISCRIMINATE.
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- YOU KNOW, I DISCRIMINATE. YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO INTO A
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- YOU KNOW, WHEN I GO INTO A BUILDING, I'M NOT GONNA
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- BUILDING, I'M NOT GONNA SAVE THEM ALL, AND IF
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- SAVE THEM ALL, AND IF THERE'S A CHILD IN THE
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- THERE'S A CHILD IN THE MIDST OF THE FIRE, THEY'RE
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- MIDST OF THE FIRE, THEY'RE GONNA BE A HORRIBLE
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- GONNA BE A HORRIBLE REMINDER, AND I DON'T
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- REMINDER, AND I DON'T WANNA DO THAT TO THEIR
- 00:13:40.030 --> 00:13:40.731
- WANNA DO THAT TO THEIR PARENTS, SO I'M NOT GONNA
- 00:13:40.731 --> 00:13:43.267
- PARENTS, SO I'M NOT GONNA SAVE THEM."
- 00:13:43.267 --> 00:13:44.368
- SAVE THEM." LIKE, WHAT FIRE CHIEF IN
- 00:13:44.368 --> 00:13:45.469
- LIKE, WHAT FIRE CHIEF IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD
- 00:13:45.469 --> 00:13:46.370
- THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD HIRE THAT FIREFIGHTER?
- 00:13:46.370 --> 00:13:46.937
- HIRE THAT FIREFIGHTER? THEY JUST TOLD YOU
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- THEY JUST TOLD YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW.
- 00:13:47.771 --> 00:13:50.574
- EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW. AND I ALWAYS THINK OF THE
- 00:13:50.574 --> 00:13:51.842
- AND I ALWAYS THINK OF THE PARABLE OF THE LOST SHEEP
- 00:13:51.842 --> 00:13:54.244
- PARABLE OF THE LOST SHEEP BECAUSE JESUS SAID, YOU
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- BECAUSE JESUS SAID, YOU KNOW, "SEE THAT YOU DO NOT
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- KNOW, "SEE THAT YOU DO NOT DESPISE ANY OF THESE
- 00:13:56.547 --> 00:13:57.381
- DESPISE ANY OF THESE LITTLE ONES," AND WE ARE
- 00:13:57.381 --> 00:13:58.382
- LITTLE ONES," AND WE ARE DESPISED.
- 00:13:58.382 --> 00:13:59.683
- DESPISED. WE'RE CALLED "DEMON SEED,"
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- WE'RE CALLED "DEMON SEED," "EVIL SEED," AND THAT'S BY
- 00:14:00.817 --> 00:14:03.153
- "EVIL SEED," AND THAT'S BY PASTORS AND BY--
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- PASTORS AND BY-- CONSERVATIVES HAVE CALLED
- 00:14:05.656 --> 00:14:06.323
- CONSERVATIVES HAVE CALLED US THAT.
- 00:14:06.323 --> 00:14:08.892
- US THAT. THEY SAY THAT WE'RE A
- 00:14:08.892 --> 00:14:11.562
- THEY SAY THAT WE'RE A "HORRIBLE REMINDER."
- 00:14:11.562 --> 00:14:13.397
- "HORRIBLE REMINDER." I'VE BEEN CALLED "SATAN'S
- 00:14:13.397 --> 00:14:14.765
- I'VE BEEN CALLED "SATAN'S SPAWN," "THE DEVIL'S
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- SPAWN," "THE DEVIL'S CHILD," "MONSTER'S CHILD."
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- CHILD," "MONSTER'S CHILD." - ERIC: WELL, SEE, LOOK,
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- - ERIC: WELL, SEE, LOOK, I JUST WANNA BE
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- I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR THEOLOGICALLY.
- 00:14:21.338 --> 00:14:23.273
- CLEAR THEOLOGICALLY. THAT IS THEOLOGICALLY
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- THAT IS THEOLOGICALLY FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG.
- 00:14:26.143 --> 00:14:27.077
- FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG. IT'S UNBIBLICAL.
- 00:14:27.077 --> 00:14:30.147
- IT'S UNBIBLICAL. GOD SAYS EVERY HUMAN BEING
- 00:14:30.147 --> 00:14:31.582
- GOD SAYS EVERY HUMAN BEING IS EQUAL IN HIS SIGHT--
- 00:14:31.582 --> 00:14:32.649
- IS EQUAL IN HIS SIGHT-- PERIOD, NO EXCEPTION,
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- PERIOD, NO EXCEPTION, SO THERE ARE NO DEMONIC
- 00:14:34.351 --> 00:14:34.985
- SO THERE ARE NO DEMONIC PEOPLE.
- 00:14:34.985 --> 00:14:36.653
- PEOPLE. EITHER YOU ARE MADE IN
- 00:14:36.653 --> 00:14:38.121
- EITHER YOU ARE MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE AND HIS
- 00:14:38.121 --> 00:14:39.356
- GOD'S IMAGE AND HIS BELOVED CHILD FOR WHOM HE
- 00:14:39.356 --> 00:14:41.024
- BELOVED CHILD FOR WHOM HE DIED ON THE CROSS TO SAVE
- 00:14:41.024 --> 00:14:42.025
- DIED ON THE CROSS TO SAVE YOU AND BRING YOU INTO
- 00:14:42.025 --> 00:14:42.960
- YOU AND BRING YOU INTO HEAVEN FOREVER, OR YOU'RE
- 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:44.494
- HEAVEN FOREVER, OR YOU'RE NOT HUMAN-- PERIOD.
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- NOT HUMAN-- PERIOD. BUT YOU SAID THAT THERE
- 00:14:46.063 --> 00:14:48.432
- BUT YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE MANY, MANY PEOPLE IN
- 00:14:48.432 --> 00:14:49.633
- ARE MANY, MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ORGANIZATION WHO HAVE
- 00:14:49.633 --> 00:14:52.269
- THIS ORGANIZATION WHO HAVE BEEN CONCEIVED IN RAPE,
- 00:14:52.269 --> 00:14:53.804
- BEEN CONCEIVED IN RAPE, AND THEY'RE DOING PART OF
- 00:14:53.804 --> 00:14:54.972
- AND THEY'RE DOING PART OF THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
- 00:14:54.972 --> 00:14:55.772
- THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. - REBECCA: I HAVE A
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- - REBECCA: I HAVE A DATABASE OF OVER 900 OF US
- 00:14:57.674 --> 00:14:58.909
- DATABASE OF OVER 900 OF US NOW, WHO WERE CONCEIVED IN
- 00:14:58.909 --> 00:15:00.344
- NOW, WHO WERE CONCEIVED IN RAPE LIKE ME, AND MOTHERS
- 00:15:00.344 --> 00:15:02.512
- RAPE LIKE ME, AND MOTHERS WHO BECAME PREGNANT BY
- 00:15:02.512 --> 00:15:03.413
- WHO BECAME PREGNANT BY RAPE, WHO EITHER REGRET
- 00:15:03.413 --> 00:15:04.414
- RAPE, WHO EITHER REGRET ABORTING, THEY'RE RAISING
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- ABORTING, THEY'RE RAISING THEIR CHILDREN, MOSTLY
- 00:15:05.415 --> 00:15:06.016
- THEIR CHILDREN, MOSTLY RAISING THEIR CHILDREN;
- 00:15:06.016 --> 00:15:07.384
- RAISING THEIR CHILDREN; AND BIRTH MOTHERS FROM
- 00:15:07.384 --> 00:15:09.419
- AND BIRTH MOTHERS FROM RAPE, AND SOME WHO
- 00:15:09.419 --> 00:15:10.320
- RAPE, AND SOME WHO MISCARRIED AS WELL, AS
- 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:11.989
- MISCARRIED AS WELL, AS WELL AS HUNDREDS WHO WERE
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- WELL AS HUNDREDS WHO WERE TOLD BY DOCTORS TO ABORT.
- 00:15:13.090 --> 00:15:13.857
- TOLD BY DOCTORS TO ABORT. SO WE SPECIALIZE IN
- 00:15:13.857 --> 00:15:15.258
- SO WE SPECIALIZE IN REPRESENTING ALL OF THE
- 00:15:15.258 --> 00:15:16.393
- REPRESENTING ALL OF THE SO-CALLED "DIFFICULT
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- SO-CALLED "DIFFICULT CASES" IN THE ABORTION
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- CASES" IN THE ABORTION DEBATE THROUGH OUR
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- DEBATE THROUGH OUR PERSONAL STORIES.
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- PERSONAL STORIES. - ERIC: WELL, IT'S INTERESTING
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- - ERIC: WELL, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BY
- 00:15:23.233 --> 00:15:25.268
- BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, BY PUTTING A FACE ON THE
- 00:15:25.268 --> 00:15:26.136
- PUTTING A FACE ON THE ISSUE, YOUR FACE AND THE
- 00:15:26.136 --> 00:15:27.838
- ISSUE, YOUR FACE AND THE FACES OF ALL THESE OTHERS,
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- FACES OF ALL THESE OTHERS, IT DOES MAKE YOU ALL
- 00:15:29.840 --> 00:15:32.209
- IT DOES MAKE YOU ALL OBVIOUSLY HUMAN, AND IT
- 00:15:32.209 --> 00:15:32.976
- OBVIOUSLY HUMAN, AND IT MAKES THE ISSUE QUITE
- 00:15:32.976 --> 00:15:36.613
- MAKES THE ISSUE QUITE DIFFERENT FROM THIS
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- DIFFERENT FROM THIS ABSTRACT IDEA OF "OH, SOME
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- ABSTRACT IDEA OF "OH, SOME POOR WOMAN WAS RAPED,"
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- POOR WOMAN WAS RAPED," AND YOU GO,
- 00:15:38.915 --> 00:15:40.917
- AND YOU GO, "WELL, YES, THAT'S BAD,"
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- "WELL, YES, THAT'S BAD," BUT THEN, WHAT ABOUT
- 00:15:41.652 --> 00:15:43.053
- BUT THEN, WHAT ABOUT THE HUMAN BEING THAT
- 00:15:43.053 --> 00:15:45.956
- THE HUMAN BEING THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE
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- YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE THAT PERSON
- 00:15:47.491 --> 00:15:49.860
- NOT GONNA GIVE THAT PERSON A CHANCE TO LIVE?
- 00:15:49.860 --> 00:15:50.560
- A CHANCE TO LIVE? AND I THINK THERE ARE
- 00:15:50.560 --> 00:15:51.995
- AND I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY INNUMERABLE
- 00:15:51.995 --> 00:15:53.030
- PROBABLY INNUMERABLE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T EVEN
- 00:15:53.030 --> 00:15:54.531
- PEOPLE THAT AREN'T EVEN AWARE OF THIS ISSUE THAT
- 00:15:54.531 --> 00:15:56.466
- AWARE OF THIS ISSUE THAT WERE CONCEIVED IN RAPE,
- 00:15:56.466 --> 00:15:57.567
- WERE CONCEIVED IN RAPE, AND THEY'RE LIVING THEIR
- 00:15:57.567 --> 00:15:58.201
- AND THEY'RE LIVING THEIR LIVES, AND THEIR MOTHERS
- 00:15:58.201 --> 00:15:59.503
- LIVES, AND THEIR MOTHERS AND GRANDMOTHERS AND
- 00:15:59.503 --> 00:16:00.637
- AND GRANDMOTHERS AND FATHERS-- AND, YOU KNOW,
- 00:16:00.637 --> 00:16:01.204
- FATHERS-- AND, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK, "WOW, WHAT
- 00:16:01.204 --> 00:16:02.205
- YOU THINK, "WOW, WHAT ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE?"
- 00:16:02.205 --> 00:16:03.106
- ABOUT THOSE PEOPLE?" - REBECCA: THERE'S A LOT
- 00:16:03.106 --> 00:16:04.007
- - REBECCA: THERE'S A LOT OF FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO WERE
- 00:16:04.007 --> 00:16:04.708
- OF FAMOUS PEOPLE WHO WERE CONCEIVED IN RAPE.
- 00:16:04.708 --> 00:16:05.409
- CONCEIVED IN RAPE. JESSE JACKSON WAS
- 00:16:05.409 --> 00:16:10.013
- JESSE JACKSON WAS CONCEIVED A RAPE, EARTHA KITT,
- 00:16:10.013 --> 00:16:12.649
- CONCEIVED A RAPE, EARTHA KITT, A LOT OF GREAT HUMANITARIANS
- 00:16:12.649 --> 00:16:14.718
- A LOT OF GREAT HUMANITARIANS WHO ARE CONCEIVED IN RAPE AND--
- 00:16:14.718 --> 00:16:15.819
- WHO ARE CONCEIVED IN RAPE AND-- - ERIC: I JUST CAN'T
- 00:16:15.819 --> 00:16:16.520
- - ERIC: I JUST CAN'T APPLAUD YOU ENOUGH FOR BEING
- 00:16:16.520 --> 00:16:18.755
- APPLAUD YOU ENOUGH FOR BEING WILLING TO TAKE THIS ON,
- 00:16:18.755 --> 00:16:19.322
- WILLING TO TAKE THIS ON, BUT YOU'RE A PERSON OF
- 00:16:19.322 --> 00:16:19.856
- BUT YOU'RE A PERSON OF CHRISTIAN FAITH.
- 00:16:19.856 --> 00:16:22.359
- CHRISTIAN FAITH. YOU WERE NOT RAISED THAT WAY.
- 00:16:22.359 --> 00:16:23.260
- YOU WERE NOT RAISED THAT WAY. - REBECCA: NO, I WAS
- 00:16:23.260 --> 00:16:24.194
- - REBECCA: NO, I WAS ADOPTED AND RAISED IN A
- 00:16:24.194 --> 00:16:26.697
- ADOPTED AND RAISED IN A SECULAR JEWISH HOME.
- 00:16:26.697 --> 00:16:27.497
- SECULAR JEWISH HOME. I WENT TO FIVE YEARS OF
- 00:16:27.497 --> 00:16:29.533
- I WENT TO FIVE YEARS OF HEBREW SCHOOL, WAS BAT
- 00:16:29.533 --> 00:16:31.401
- HEBREW SCHOOL, WAS BAT MITZVAHED, AND EVERYTHING.
- 00:16:31.401 --> 00:16:31.902
- MITZVAHED, AND EVERYTHING. - ERIC: WOW.
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- - ERIC: WOW. - REBECCA: BUT I GREW UP--
- 00:16:32.869 --> 00:16:33.437
- - REBECCA: BUT I GREW UP-- YOU KNOW, SO MANY OF
- 00:16:33.437 --> 00:16:34.204
- YOU KNOW, SO MANY OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE
- 00:16:34.204 --> 00:16:34.905
- MY FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST,
- 00:16:34.905 --> 00:16:35.439
- BEEN KILLED IN THE HOLOCAUST, AND SO I GREW UP AT
- 00:16:35.439 --> 00:16:36.640
- AND SO I GREW UP AT A YOUNG AGE UNDERSTANDING
- 00:16:36.640 --> 00:16:39.142
- A YOUNG AGE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S PEOPLE IN THIS
- 00:16:39.142 --> 00:16:39.776
- THAT THERE'S PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD WHO HATE OTHERS TO
- 00:16:39.776 --> 00:16:40.410
- WORLD WHO HATE OTHERS TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY'D BE
- 00:16:40.410 --> 00:16:40.977
- THE EXTENT THAT THEY'D BE WILLING TO KILL OTHER
- 00:16:40.977 --> 00:16:42.145
- WILLING TO KILL OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE, AND
- 00:16:42.145 --> 00:16:45.582
- INNOCENT PEOPLE, AND SO I WAS PASSIONATE THAT
- 00:16:45.582 --> 00:16:46.416
- SO I WAS PASSIONATE THAT I WANTED TO BE AN ATTORNEY
- 00:16:46.416 --> 00:16:49.586
- I WANTED TO BE AN ATTORNEY FROM THE AGE OF TEN AND--
- 00:16:49.586 --> 00:16:50.187
- FROM THE AGE OF TEN AND-- - ERIC: IS THAT RIGHT?
- 00:16:50.187 --> 00:16:51.154
- - ERIC: IS THAT RIGHT? - REBECCA: -- WANTED TO
- 00:16:51.154 --> 00:16:51.655
- - REBECCA: -- WANTED TO DEFEND LIFE.
- 00:16:51.655 --> 00:16:52.189
- DEFEND LIFE. - ERIC: ISN'T THAT
- 00:16:52.189 --> 00:16:52.723
- - ERIC: ISN'T THAT AMAZING?
- 00:16:52.723 --> 00:16:54.458
- AMAZING? AT AGE TEN?
- 00:16:54.458 --> 00:16:55.092
- AT AGE TEN? WHEN DID YOU FIND OUT HOW
- 00:16:55.092 --> 00:16:56.693
- WHEN DID YOU FIND OUT HOW YOU HAD COME INTO THE
- 00:16:56.693 --> 00:16:57.861
- YOU HAD COME INTO THE WORLD?
- 00:16:57.861 --> 00:16:59.129
- WORLD? HOW OLD WERE YOU?
- 00:16:59.129 --> 00:16:59.763
- HOW OLD WERE YOU? - REBECCA: I WAS 18, AND
- 00:16:59.763 --> 00:17:01.832
- - REBECCA: I WAS 18, AND IT WAS DEVASTATING.
- 00:17:01.832 --> 00:17:02.799
- IT WAS DEVASTATING. I WAS NOT GIVEN A
- 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:03.867
- I WAS NOT GIVEN A FOUNDATION FOR DEALING
- 00:17:03.867 --> 00:17:05.268
- FOUNDATION FOR DEALING WITH THAT TRUTH.
- 00:17:05.268 --> 00:17:05.869
- WITH THAT TRUTH. - ERIC: SO YOU WERE NOT
- 00:17:05.869 --> 00:17:06.770
- - ERIC: SO YOU WERE NOT REALLY A CHRISTIAN AT THAT
- 00:17:06.770 --> 00:17:09.539
- REALLY A CHRISTIAN AT THAT POINT?
- 00:17:09.539 --> 00:17:10.140
- POINT? YOU HAD NOT ACCEPTED GOD
- 00:17:10.140 --> 00:17:11.675
- - REBECCA: I HAD, BUT I
- 00:17:14.511 --> 00:17:15.779
- - REBECCA: I HAD, BUT I HAD FIRST BEEN SAVED AT AN
- 00:17:15.779 --> 00:17:17.114
- HAD FIRST BEEN SAVED AT AN ALTAR CALL WHEN I WAS 15,
- 00:17:17.114 --> 00:17:18.315
- ALTAR CALL WHEN I WAS 15, AND THEN FELL AWAY AFTER
- 00:17:18.315 --> 00:17:19.382
- AND THEN FELL AWAY AFTER ABOUT NINE MONTHS, AND SO
- 00:17:19.382 --> 00:17:21.284
- ABOUT NINE MONTHS, AND SO I WAS KIND OF LOST DURING
- 00:17:21.284 --> 00:17:22.619
- - ERIC: YEAH, YOU WEREN'T
- 00:17:23.887 --> 00:17:24.721
- - ERIC: YEAH, YOU WEREN'T WALKING WITH GOD AND CAN
- 00:17:24.721 --> 00:17:25.322
- WALKING WITH GOD AND CAN REALLY LEAN ON HIM WHEN
- 00:17:25.322 --> 00:17:26.923
- REALLY LEAN ON HIM WHEN YOU GOT THIS NEWS AT AGE 18.
- 00:17:26.923 --> 00:17:27.557
- YOU GOT THIS NEWS AT AGE 18. HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT?
- 00:17:27.557 --> 00:17:28.358
- HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT? I MEAN, DID YOUR PARENTS
- 00:17:28.358 --> 00:17:29.025
- I MEAN, DID YOUR PARENTS JUST SIT YOU DOWN AND TELL
- 00:17:29.025 --> 00:17:29.593
- JUST SIT YOU DOWN AND TELL YOU THIS?
- 00:17:29.593 --> 00:17:30.293
- YOU THIS? - REBECCA: NO, I RECEIVED
- 00:17:30.293 --> 00:17:31.795
- - REBECCA: NO, I RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM THE
- 00:17:31.795 --> 00:17:32.596
- INFORMATION FROM THE COURT, AND IT HAD ALL
- 00:17:32.596 --> 00:17:33.597
- COURT, AND IT HAD ALL KINDS OF DETAILS ABOUT
- 00:17:33.597 --> 00:17:35.499
- KINDS OF DETAILS ABOUT HER, AND ALL IT SAID FOR
- 00:17:35.499 --> 00:17:36.233
- HER, AND ALL IT SAID FOR HIM WAS THAT HE WAS
- 00:17:36.233 --> 00:17:38.101
- HIM WAS THAT HE WAS CAUCASIAN OF LARGE BUILD,
- 00:17:38.101 --> 00:17:39.636
- CAUCASIAN OF LARGE BUILD, AND SINCE THEN, BY THE WAY,
- 00:17:39.636 --> 00:17:40.604
- AND SINCE THEN, BY THE WAY, THROUGH ANCESTRY DNA,
- 00:17:40.604 --> 00:17:42.305
- THROUGH ANCESTRY DNA, I KNOW WHO MY BIOLOGICAL
- 00:17:42.305 --> 00:17:42.806
- I KNOW WHO MY BIOLOGICAL FATHER IS.
- 00:17:42.806 --> 00:17:43.874
- FATHER IS. AS OF THREE AND A HALF
- 00:17:43.874 --> 00:17:45.208
- AS OF THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, I HAD A
- 00:17:45.208 --> 00:17:46.576
- YEARS AGO, I HAD A FIRST-COUSIN MATCH, AND AS
- 00:17:46.576 --> 00:17:49.179
- FIRST-COUSIN MATCH, AND AS OF JUST OVER A YEAR, ABOUT
- 00:17:49.179 --> 00:17:50.547
- OF JUST OVER A YEAR, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, I
- 00:17:50.547 --> 00:17:51.181
- A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, I KNOW WITH CERTAINTY WHO MY
- 00:17:51.181 --> 00:17:51.948
- KNOW WITH CERTAINTY WHO MY BIOLOGICAL FATHER IS, AND
- 00:17:51.948 --> 00:17:53.717
- BIOLOGICAL FATHER IS, AND HE NEVER SPENT A DAY IN JAIL.
- 00:17:53.717 --> 00:17:55.685
- HE NEVER SPENT A DAY IN JAIL. HE GOT TO LIVE HIS LIFE.
- 00:17:55.685 --> 00:17:56.286
- HE GOT TO LIVE HIS LIFE. - ERIC: HE PASSED AWAY?
- 00:17:56.286 --> 00:17:57.220
- - ERIC: HE PASSED AWAY? - REBECCA: NO, HE'S STILL
- 00:17:57.220 --> 00:17:57.621
- - REBECCA: NO, HE'S STILL ALIVE.
- 00:17:57.621 --> 00:17:59.089
- ALIVE. - ERIC: HE'S STILL ALIVE?
- 00:17:59.089 --> 00:17:59.589
- - ERIC: HE'S STILL ALIVE? - REBECCA: YEAH.
- 00:17:59.589 --> 00:18:00.857
- - REBECCA: YEAH. - ERIC: HE'S NEVER REPENTED?
- 00:18:00.857 --> 00:18:01.391
- - ERIC: HE'S NEVER REPENTED? - REBECCA: NO, NO.
- 00:18:01.391 --> 00:18:02.058
- - REBECCA: NO, NO. I HAVE A GREAT
- 00:18:02.058 --> 00:18:02.592
- I HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH MY
- 00:18:02.592 --> 00:18:04.060
- RELATIONSHIP WITH MY HALF-BROTHER THOUGH.
- 00:18:04.060 --> 00:18:04.828
- HALF-BROTHER THOUGH. - ERIC: UNBELIEVABLE.
- 00:18:04.828 --> 00:18:05.562
- - ERIC: UNBELIEVABLE. - REBECCA: SO, BUT AT THE
- 00:18:05.562 --> 00:18:06.263
- - REBECCA: SO, BUT AT THE TIME, I DIDN'T HAVE A
- 00:18:06.263 --> 00:18:07.364
- TIME, I DIDN'T HAVE A FOUNDATION FOR DEALING
- 00:18:07.364 --> 00:18:07.931
- FOUNDATION FOR DEALING WITH THE TRUTH, AND SO
- 00:18:07.931 --> 00:18:09.833
- WITH THE TRUTH, AND SO THOSE BIG-PICTURE
- 00:18:09.833 --> 00:18:10.767
- THOSE BIG-PICTURE QUESTIONS OF "WHO AM I?
- 00:18:10.767 --> 00:18:11.668
- QUESTIONS OF "WHO AM I? WHY AM I HERE?"
- 00:18:11.668 --> 00:18:12.836
- WHY AM I HERE?" YOU KNOW, "WHAT IS MY VALUE
- 00:18:12.836 --> 00:18:14.437
- YOU KNOW, "WHAT IS MY VALUE AND IDENTITY AND PURPOSE?"
- 00:18:14.437 --> 00:18:15.605
- AND IDENTITY AND PURPOSE?" WERE DIFFICULT, AND I
- 00:18:15.605 --> 00:18:17.741
- WERE DIFFICULT, AND I WANTED TO PROVE MY WORTH
- 00:18:17.741 --> 00:18:18.742
- WANTED TO PROVE MY WORTH TO OTHERS BY, YOU KNOW,
- 00:18:18.742 --> 00:18:20.110
- TO OTHERS BY, YOU KNOW, EXCELLING IN ACADEMICS.
- 00:18:20.110 --> 00:18:21.645
- EXCELLING IN ACADEMICS. I THOUGHT IF I WAS
- 00:18:21.645 --> 00:18:22.946
- I THOUGHT IF I WAS ATTRACTIVE THEN I COULD
- 00:18:22.946 --> 00:18:24.314
- ATTRACTIVE THEN I COULD PROVE MY WORTH AND FIND
- 00:18:24.314 --> 00:18:25.348
- PROVE MY WORTH AND FIND SOMEONE TO LOVE ME, THEN
- 00:18:25.348 --> 00:18:27.150
- SOMEONE TO LOVE ME, THEN I'D BE VALUABLE, AND I
- 00:18:27.150 --> 00:18:28.051
- I'D BE VALUABLE, AND I COULD SHOW PEOPLE THAT I
- 00:18:28.051 --> 00:18:29.753
- COULD SHOW PEOPLE THAT I DESERVE TO BE ALIVE, AND
- 00:18:29.753 --> 00:18:31.254
- DESERVE TO BE ALIVE, AND NOW I KNOW THAT I
- 00:18:31.254 --> 00:18:32.722
- NOW I KNOW THAT I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PROVE MY
- 00:18:32.722 --> 00:18:33.857
- SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PROVE MY WORTH TO ANYONE, AND I
- 00:18:33.857 --> 00:18:35.592
- WORTH TO ANYONE, AND I KNOW THAT I WAS CREATED BY
- 00:18:35.592 --> 00:18:36.860
- KNOW THAT I WAS CREATED BY GOD IN HIS IMAGE FOR A
- 00:18:36.860 --> 00:18:39.062
- GOD IN HIS IMAGE FOR A PURPOSE, WHICH WAS NOT TO
- 00:18:39.062 --> 00:18:40.030
- PURPOSE, WHICH WAS NOT TO BE ABORTED, AND I KNOW
- 00:18:40.030 --> 00:18:43.333
- BE ABORTED, AND I KNOW THAT I HAVE AN INFINITE
- 00:18:43.333 --> 00:18:45.602
- THAT I HAVE AN INFINITE WORTH, THAT I CAN POINT TO
- 00:18:45.602 --> 00:18:46.336
- WORTH, THAT I CAN POINT TO THE CROSS.
- 00:18:46.336 --> 00:18:46.870
- THE CROSS. THAT'S MY WORTH.
- 00:18:46.870 --> 00:18:47.504
- THAT'S MY WORTH. I DON'T HAVE TO PULL OUT
- 00:18:47.504 --> 00:18:48.872
- I DON'T HAVE TO PULL OUT MY CHECKBOOK.
- 00:18:48.872 --> 00:18:50.640
- MY CHECKBOOK. - ERIC: IT'S-- YES, WELL,
- 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:51.675
- - ERIC: IT'S-- YES, WELL, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SAY
- 00:18:51.675 --> 00:18:52.876
- IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SAY THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE
- 00:18:52.876 --> 00:18:53.844
- THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT THEY THINK
- 00:18:53.844 --> 00:18:54.744
- PEOPLE THAT THEY THINK THAT THEIR VALUE DOES COME
- 00:18:54.744 --> 00:18:55.612
- THAT THEIR VALUE DOES COME FROM SOMETHING OTHER THAN
- 00:18:55.612 --> 00:18:57.814
- FROM SOMETHING OTHER THAN GOD'S GIFT TO US OF MAKING
- 00:18:57.814 --> 00:18:58.982
- GOD'S GIFT TO US OF MAKING US IN HIS IMAGE.
- 00:18:58.982 --> 00:19:00.550
- US IN HIS IMAGE. THAT'S IT.
- 00:19:00.550 --> 00:19:01.084
- THAT'S IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO
- 00:19:01.084 --> 00:19:02.385
- YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING EXCEPT BE A HUMAN
- 00:19:02.385 --> 00:19:03.954
- ANYTHING EXCEPT BE A HUMAN BEING, AND ACCORDING TO
- 00:19:03.954 --> 00:19:05.255
- BEING, AND ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, WE HAVE
- 00:19:05.255 --> 00:19:07.457
- THE BIBLE, WE HAVE INFINITE WORTH.
- 00:19:07.457 --> 00:19:08.024
- INFINITE WORTH. - REBECCA: HE PAID A
- 00:19:08.024 --> 00:19:08.859
- - REBECCA: HE PAID A PRICE FOR MY LIFE.
- 00:19:08.859 --> 00:19:10.093
- PRICE FOR MY LIFE. - ERIC: AND, YES, AND
- 00:19:10.093 --> 00:19:12.629
- - ERIC: AND, YES, AND HERE WE ARE.
- 00:19:12.629 --> 00:19:14.831
- HERE WE ARE. NOW, WHAT DOES
- 00:19:14.831 --> 00:19:15.966
- NOW, WHAT DOES SAVETHE1.COM, THIS
- 00:19:15.966 --> 00:19:17.634
- SAVETHE1.COM, THIS ORGANIZATION SAVE THE 1,
- 00:19:17.634 --> 00:19:18.835
- ORGANIZATION SAVE THE 1, WHAT DO YOU DO?
- 00:19:18.835 --> 00:19:19.903
- WHAT DO YOU DO? IS THIS A LOT OF-- DO YOU
- 00:19:19.903 --> 00:19:20.670
- IS THIS A LOT OF-- DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF ADVOCATES
- 00:19:20.670 --> 00:19:21.638
- HAVE A LOT OF ADVOCATES DOING SPEAKING ON THE
- 00:19:21.638 --> 00:19:22.072
- DOING SPEAKING ON THE SUBJECT?
- 00:19:22.072 --> 00:19:23.139
- SUBJECT? - REBECCA: YEAH, WE'RE A
- 00:19:23.139 --> 00:19:24.140
- - REBECCA: YEAH, WE'RE A GLOBAL ORGANIZATION.
- 00:19:24.140 --> 00:19:27.544
- GLOBAL ORGANIZATION. WE HAVE ABOUT 70 SPEAKERS.
- 00:19:27.544 --> 00:19:28.645
- WE HAVE ABOUT 70 SPEAKERS. WE HAVE A COUPLE DOZEN
- 00:19:28.645 --> 00:19:30.080
- WE HAVE A COUPLE DOZEN NATIONAL, INTERNATIONAL
- 00:19:30.080 --> 00:19:31.548
- NATIONAL, INTERNATIONAL SPEAKERS LISTED ON OUR
- 00:19:31.548 --> 00:19:33.516
- SPEAKERS LISTED ON OUR WEBSITE, AND WE DO SPEAKER
- 00:19:33.516 --> 00:19:34.985
- WEBSITE, AND WE DO SPEAKER TRAINING, WE DO ADVOCACY.
- 00:19:34.985 --> 00:19:36.887
- TRAINING, WE DO ADVOCACY. WE SUED THE STATE OF IOWA
- 00:19:36.887 --> 00:19:38.388
- WE SUED THE STATE OF IOWA FOR THE RAPE EXCEPTIONS.
- 00:19:38.388 --> 00:19:40.724
- FOR THE RAPE EXCEPTIONS. I TESTIFY ALL OVER THE
- 00:19:40.724 --> 00:19:42.259
- I TESTIFY ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
- 00:19:42.259 --> 00:19:42.893
- COUNTRY. GLOBALLY, WE SPONSOR THE
- 00:19:42.893 --> 00:19:44.361
- GLOBALLY, WE SPONSOR THE RAPE SURVIVOR CHILD
- 00:19:44.361 --> 00:19:45.729
- RAPE SURVIVOR CHILD CUSTODY ACT TO TERMINATE
- 00:19:45.729 --> 00:19:46.529
- CUSTODY ACT TO TERMINATE THE PARENTAL RIGHTS OF
- 00:19:46.529 --> 00:19:47.264
- THE PARENTAL RIGHTS OF RAPISTS.
- 00:19:47.264 --> 00:19:48.665
- RAPISTS. WE WORK ON SIMON'S LAW SO
- 00:19:48.665 --> 00:19:52.435
- WE WORK ON SIMON'S LAW SO THAT YOU CAN'T PUT A DNR
- 00:19:52.435 --> 00:19:52.936
- THAT YOU CAN'T PUT A DNR ON A CHILD WITHOUT
- 00:19:52.936 --> 00:19:54.671
- ON A CHILD WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT.
- 00:19:54.671 --> 00:19:55.338
- PARENTAL CONSENT. - ERIC: I DON'T KNOW WHAT
- 00:19:55.338 --> 00:19:56.673
- - ERIC: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS-- A "DNR."
- 00:19:56.673 --> 00:19:57.207
- THAT IS-- A "DNR." - REBECCA: "DO NOT
- 00:19:57.207 --> 00:19:58.842
- - REBECCA: "DO NOT RESUSCITATE."
- 00:19:58.842 --> 00:20:00.076
- RESUSCITATE." SO WE ADVOCATE FOR ALL
- 00:20:00.076 --> 00:20:00.810
- SO WE ADVOCATE FOR ALL OF THE DIFFICULT CASES,
- 00:20:00.810 --> 00:20:02.078
- OF THE DIFFICULT CASES, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW,
- 00:20:02.078 --> 00:20:03.380
- INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, AFTER THEY'RE BORN,
- 00:20:03.380 --> 00:20:04.481
- AFTER THEY'RE BORN, TO PROTECT THEM, TO
- 00:20:04.481 --> 00:20:05.649
- TO PROTECT THEM, TO PROTECT THEIR PARENTS OR
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- PROTECT THEIR PARENTS OR PROTECT THE CHILDREN, TO
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- PROTECT THE CHILDREN, TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN,
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- PROTECT THE CHILDREN, THEIR MOTHERS, WHO WERE
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- THEIR MOTHERS, WHO WERE CONCEIVED IN RAPE SO THAT
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- CONCEIVED IN RAPE SO THAT THE RAPIST DOESN'T HAVE
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- THE RAPIST DOESN'T HAVE PARENTAL RIGHTS.
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- PARENTAL RIGHTS. SO WE DO ALL KINDS OF
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- SO WE DO ALL KINDS OF ADVOCACY FOCUSED ON ALL OF
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- ADVOCACY FOCUSED ON ALL OF THESE SO-CALLED HARD CASES.
- 00:20:18.361 --> 00:20:21.331
- THESE SO-CALLED HARD CASES. THROUGH SAVE THE 1, UGANDA,
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- THROUGH SAVE THE 1, UGANDA, I WAS JUST SENT A PHOTO
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- I WAS JUST SENT A PHOTO OF A BABY.
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- OF A BABY. THIS WOMAN GAVE BIRTH.
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- THIS WOMAN GAVE BIRTH. SHE WAS 16.
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- SHE WAS 16. HER MOTHER WANTED HER TO
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- HER MOTHER WANTED HER TO ABORT AFTER SHE WAS RAPED,
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- ABORT AFTER SHE WAS RAPED, AND OUR FRIEND KAKAIRE,
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- AND OUR FRIEND KAKAIRE, FROM SAVE THE 1, UGANDA,
- 00:20:32.709 --> 00:20:33.777
- FROM SAVE THE 1, UGANDA, MET WITH HER, AND SHE
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- MET WITH HER, AND SHE NAMED HER DAUGHTER
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- NAMED HER DAUGHTER REBECCA, AFTER ME, 'CAUSE
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- REBECCA, AFTER ME, 'CAUSE SHE WANTS HER DAUGHTER TO
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- SHE WANTS HER DAUGHTER TO SPEAK OUT SOMEDAY LIKE I'M
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- SPEAK OUT SOMEDAY LIKE I'M DOING.
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- DOING. - ERIC: WELL, IT'S JUST
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- - ERIC: WELL, IT'S JUST SO BEAUTIFUL.
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- SO BEAUTIFUL. I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN
- 00:20:45.322 --> 00:20:46.723
- I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN INTERVIEWED BY
- 00:20:46.723 --> 00:20:48.758
- INTERVIEWED BY DR. JAMES DOBSON.
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- DR. JAMES DOBSON. THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE
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- THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND THIS, AND,
- 00:20:53.229 --> 00:20:53.830
- THAT UNDERSTAND THIS, AND, YET THERE'S SO MANY THAT
- 00:20:53.830 --> 00:20:54.497
- YET THERE'S SO MANY THAT STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
- 00:20:54.497 --> 00:20:55.131
- STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. IT'S STARTLING TO ME THAT
- 00:20:55.131 --> 00:20:56.366
- IT'S STARTLING TO ME THAT GOVERNOR RICK PERRY AND
- 00:20:56.366 --> 00:21:00.737
- GOVERNOR RICK PERRY AND NEWT GINGRICH, OF COURSE,
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- NEWT GINGRICH, OF COURSE, WHO IS NOW, YOU KNOW, A
- 00:21:03.139 --> 00:21:04.808
- WHO IS NOW, YOU KNOW, A STAUNCH CATHOLIC, THAT YOU
- 00:21:04.808 --> 00:21:05.408
- STAUNCH CATHOLIC, THAT YOU WOULD THINK THAT THEY
- 00:21:05.408 --> 00:21:07.043
- WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD'VE GOTTEN THIS
- 00:21:07.043 --> 00:21:07.978
- WOULD'VE GOTTEN THIS BEFORE YOU SPOKE TO THEM,
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- BEFORE YOU SPOKE TO THEM, AND IT'S AMAZING THAT THEY
- 00:21:10.280 --> 00:21:11.815
- AND IT'S AMAZING THAT THEY DIDN'T, BUT THANK GOD,
- 00:21:11.815 --> 00:21:13.216
- DIDN'T, BUT THANK GOD, BECAUSE OF YOU, THEY DO.
- 00:21:13.216 --> 00:21:13.950
- BECAUSE OF YOU, THEY DO. - REBECCA: WELL,
- 00:21:13.950 --> 00:21:14.651
- - REBECCA: WELL, GOVERNOR PERRY SAID HE HAD
- 00:21:14.651 --> 00:21:15.552
- GOVERNOR PERRY SAID HE HAD JUST NEVER PUT A FACE TO THE
- 00:21:15.552 --> 00:21:16.619
- JUST NEVER PUT A FACE TO THE ISSUE BEFORE, THAT HE HAD
- 00:21:16.619 --> 00:21:18.154
- ISSUE BEFORE, THAT HE HAD NEVER CONSIDERED IT FROM
- 00:21:18.154 --> 00:21:19.189
- NEVER CONSIDERED IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEONE
- 00:21:19.189 --> 00:21:20.290
- THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOMEONE LIKE ME, BUT I ALSO HAD,
- 00:21:20.290 --> 00:21:21.291
- LIKE ME, BUT I ALSO HAD, YOU KNOW, MY "ESTHER
- 00:21:21.291 --> 00:21:22.659
- YOU KNOW, MY "ESTHER MOMENT," AND WE TALKED
- 00:21:22.659 --> 00:21:24.127
- MOMENT," AND WE TALKED ABOUT YOU'RE THE NARRATOR
- 00:21:24.127 --> 00:21:25.695
- ABOUT YOU'RE THE NARRATOR OF "ESTHER,"
- 00:21:25.695 --> 00:21:27.130
- OF "ESTHER," "VEGGIETALES," "ESTHER."
- 00:21:27.130 --> 00:21:27.597
- "VEGGIETALES," "ESTHER." - ERIC: OH, THE
- 00:21:27.597 --> 00:21:28.198
- - ERIC: OH, THE "VEGGIETALES," "ESTHER,"
- 00:21:28.198 --> 00:21:28.798
- "VEGGIETALES," "ESTHER," THAT'S MY CLAIM TO FAME,
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- THAT'S MY CLAIM TO FAME, RIGHT.
- 00:21:29.299 --> 00:21:29.899
- RIGHT. - REBECCA: I LOVE THAT,
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- - REBECCA: I LOVE THAT, YEAH.
- 00:21:30.433 --> 00:21:30.967
- YEAH. - ERIC: THANK YOU.
- 00:21:30.967 --> 00:21:32.702
- - ERIC: THANK YOU. - REBECCA: MY CHILDREN,
- 00:21:32.702 --> 00:21:33.370
- - REBECCA: MY CHILDREN, YEAH, THEY'LL THINK YOU'RE
- 00:21:33.370 --> 00:21:33.937
- YEAH, THEY'LL THINK YOU'RE FAMOUS 'CAUSE OF THAT.
- 00:21:33.937 --> 00:21:36.239
- FAMOUS 'CAUSE OF THAT. - ERIC: YES, WELL-- NO,
- 00:21:36.239 --> 00:21:36.873
- - ERIC: YES, WELL-- NO, IT'S A FUNNY THING 'CAUSE
- 00:21:36.873 --> 00:21:37.574
- IT'S A FUNNY THING 'CAUSE YOU TALK ABOUT AN "ESTHER
- 00:21:37.574 --> 00:21:38.174
- YOU TALK ABOUT AN "ESTHER MOMENT."
- 00:21:38.174 --> 00:21:39.876
- MOMENT." IT IS.
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- IT IS. I MEAN, HERE YOU ARE,
- 00:21:40.443 --> 00:21:41.244
- I MEAN, HERE YOU ARE, TALKING TO
- 00:21:41.244 --> 00:21:42.012
- TALKING TO GOVERNOR RICK PERRY.
- 00:21:42.012 --> 00:21:42.579
- GOVERNOR RICK PERRY. YOU KNOW, HE'S IN THE
- 00:21:42.579 --> 00:21:43.179
- YOU KNOW, HE'S IN THE PRESIDENT'S CABINET AT
- 00:21:43.179 --> 00:21:44.080
- PRESIDENT'S CABINET AT THIS POINT, AND YOU WERE
- 00:21:44.080 --> 00:21:46.182
- THIS POINT, AND YOU WERE ABLE TO CHANGE HIS MIND,
- 00:21:46.182 --> 00:21:46.850
- ABLE TO CHANGE HIS MIND, AND, YOU KNOW, ONE MIND AT
- 00:21:46.850 --> 00:21:51.021
- AND, YOU KNOW, ONE MIND AT A TIME, EVERYBODY IN THE
- 00:21:51.021 --> 00:21:51.821
- A TIME, EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND
- 00:21:51.821 --> 00:21:53.223
- WORLD NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS RIGHT AND TRUE,
- 00:21:53.223 --> 00:21:53.857
- WHAT IS RIGHT AND TRUE, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE
- 00:21:53.857 --> 00:21:57.027
- AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES THAT IT'S TOO
- 00:21:57.027 --> 00:21:57.594
- CASES THAT IT'S TOO IMPORTANT NOT TO KEEP
- 00:21:57.594 --> 00:22:00.096
- IMPORTANT NOT TO KEEP FIGHTING, AND SO I'M JUST--
- 00:22:00.096 --> 00:22:01.464
- FIGHTING, AND SO I'M JUST-- - REBECCA: AND, AFTER THIS,
- 00:22:01.464 --> 00:22:02.065
- - REBECCA: AND, AFTER THIS, THERE WERE NO MORE RAPE
- 00:22:02.065 --> 00:22:02.899
- THERE WERE NO MORE RAPE EXCEPTIONS IN
- 00:22:02.899 --> 00:22:04.167
- EXCEPTIONS IN TEXAS LEGISLATION.
- 00:22:04.167 --> 00:22:05.135
- TEXAS LEGISLATION. THERE HAD BEEN A RAPE
- 00:22:05.135 --> 00:22:06.469
- THERE HAD BEEN A RAPE EXCEPTION IN AN ULTRASOUND
- 00:22:06.469 --> 00:22:07.270
- EXCEPTION IN AN ULTRASOUND BILL, NINE MONTHS EARLIER.
- 00:22:07.270 --> 00:22:07.971
- BILL, NINE MONTHS EARLIER. - ERIC: OH, WAIT, SO
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- - ERIC: OH, WAIT, SO BECAUSE HE WAS THE
- 00:22:08.772 --> 00:22:09.672
- BECAUSE HE WAS THE GOVERNOR, YOU DIDN'T JUST
- 00:22:09.672 --> 00:22:10.407
- GOVERNOR, YOU DIDN'T JUST CHANGE THE MIND OF A MAN,
- 00:22:10.407 --> 00:22:11.441
- CHANGE THE MIND OF A MAN, YOU CHANGED THE MIND OF A
- 00:22:11.441 --> 00:22:12.275
- YOU CHANGED THE MIND OF A GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF
- 00:22:12.275 --> 00:22:12.742
- GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF TEXAS.
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- TEXAS. - REBECCA: YEAH, AND
- 00:22:13.376 --> 00:22:14.611
- - REBECCA: YEAH, AND THERE WERE NO MORE
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- THERE WERE NO MORE EXCEPTIONS AFTER THAT.
- 00:22:15.612 --> 00:22:16.713
- EXCEPTIONS AFTER THAT. - ERIC: WOW.
- 00:22:16.713 --> 00:22:17.313
- - ERIC: WOW. - REBECCA: THEY PASSED
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- - REBECCA: THEY PASSED SOME OF THE STRICTEST LAWS
- 00:22:18.048 --> 00:22:18.882
- SOME OF THE STRICTEST LAWS IN THE COUNTRY, RIGHT
- 00:22:18.882 --> 00:22:21.184
- IN THE COUNTRY, RIGHT AFTER, WITH NO EXCEPTIONS.
- 00:22:21.184 --> 00:22:21.751
- AFTER, WITH NO EXCEPTIONS. - ERIC: SO THERE ARE
- 00:22:21.751 --> 00:22:22.752
- - ERIC: SO THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA GET
- 00:22:22.752 --> 00:22:26.589
- PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA GET TO LIVE THEIR LIVES, AND
- 00:22:26.589 --> 00:22:27.490
- TO LIVE THEIR LIVES, AND THAT'S AMAZING.
- 00:22:27.490 --> 00:22:28.525
- THAT'S AMAZING. YOU MUST BE VERY PROUD.
- 00:22:28.525 --> 00:22:30.126
- YOU MUST BE VERY PROUD. - REBECCA: OH--
- 00:22:30.126 --> 00:22:31.194
- - REBECCA: OH-- - ERIC: I MEAN, SERIOUSLY,
- 00:22:31.194 --> 00:22:31.761
- - ERIC: I MEAN, SERIOUSLY, WHAT A WONDERFUL THING
- 00:22:31.761 --> 00:22:32.529
- WHAT A WONDERFUL THING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.
- 00:22:32.529 --> 00:22:33.229
- TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. - REBECCA: -- I MEAN, IT
- 00:22:33.229 --> 00:22:34.064
- - REBECCA: -- I MEAN, IT WAS A GOD-GIVEN
- 00:22:34.064 --> 00:22:34.464
- WAS A GOD-GIVEN OPPORTUNITY.
- 00:22:34.464 --> 00:22:35.331
- OPPORTUNITY. I MEAN, THE BATTLE WAS NOT
- 00:22:35.331 --> 00:22:35.865
- I MEAN, THE BATTLE WAS NOT MINE.
- 00:22:35.865 --> 00:22:36.866
- MINE. THE BATTLE WAS GOD'S, AND
- 00:22:36.866 --> 00:22:38.201
- THE BATTLE WAS GOD'S, AND I JUST HAD TO BE AVAILABLE.
- 00:22:38.201 --> 00:22:39.169
- I JUST HAD TO BE AVAILABLE. - ERIC: SO THE WEBSITE,
- 00:22:39.169 --> 00:22:41.137
- - ERIC: SO THE WEBSITE, REBECCAKIESSLING.COM, OR
- 00:22:41.137 --> 00:22:42.405
- REBECCAKIESSLING.COM, OR SAVE THE 1, AND IT'S
- 00:22:42.405 --> 00:22:43.273
- SAVE THE 1, AND IT'S THE NUMERAL "1,"
- 00:22:43.273 --> 00:22:46.609
- THE NUMERAL "1," SAVETHE1.COM.
- 00:22:46.609 --> 00:22:47.544
- SAVETHE1.COM. PEOPLE CAN BOOK YOU,
- 00:22:47.544 --> 00:22:49.145
- PEOPLE CAN BOOK YOU, OBVIOUSLY, AS A SPEAKER,
- 00:22:49.145 --> 00:22:50.847
- OBVIOUSLY, AS A SPEAKER, AND YOU'RE ALL OVER THE
- 00:22:50.847 --> 00:22:51.748
- AND YOU'RE ALL OVER THE INTERNET, SO THIS IS ALL
- 00:22:51.748 --> 00:22:53.316
- INTERNET, SO THIS IS ALL GOOD NEWS.
- 00:22:53.316 --> 00:22:53.950
- GOOD NEWS. REBECCA KIESSLING, JUST AN
- 00:22:53.950 --> 00:22:55.151
- REBECCA KIESSLING, JUST AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU.
- 00:22:55.151 --> 00:22:55.952
- HONOR TO HAVE YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
- 00:22:55.952 --> 00:22:56.586
- THANK YOU SO MUCH. - REBECCA: THANK YOU SO
- 00:22:56.586 --> 00:22:57.954
- [MUSIC]
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- - DONNA RICE HUGHES: WHAT
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- WE'RE FIGHTING FOR IS THE
- 00:23:10.600 --> 00:23:11.301
- SAFETY AND THE INNOCENCE
- 00:23:11.301 --> 00:23:13.103
- AND THE DIGNITY OF
- 00:23:13.103 --> 00:23:15.105
- - AMY ARTMAN: AND THEN
- 00:23:18.441 --> 00:23:19.275
- SHE GOES ON TO SAY THAT
- 00:23:19.275 --> 00:23:20.210
- IS I TELL PEOPLE HOW BIG
- 00:23:21.478 --> 00:23:22.078
- IS I TELL PEOPLE HOW BIG GOD IS, HOW GOOD GOD IS,
- 00:23:22.078 --> 00:23:23.313
- GOD IS, HOW GOOD GOD IS, AND THAT'S WHAT BRINGS
- 00:23:23.313 --> 00:23:24.814
- AND THAT'S WHAT BRINGS ABOUT THE HEALING.
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