God's Appointed Times with Rabbi Jason Sobel

Jason Sobel & Bobby Chandler: Yom HaShoah | God's Appointed Times

February 5, 2026 | S3 E5 | 26:19

God’s Appointed Times is an eight-week journey that explores seven of the most sacred times of the year. The series is led by renowned author and teacher Rabbi Jason Sobel. Raised in a traditional Jewish home, Rabbi Jason has seen the beauty of the biblical Jewish holidays from the perspective of Judaism. After a tangible encounter with Jesus, Rabbi Jason dedicated his life to Messiah. Rabbi now helps believers across the world reconnect to the Jewish roots of their faith.

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God's Appointed Times with Rabbi Jason Sobel | Jason Sobel & Bobby Chandler: Yom HaShoah | God's Appointed Times | February 5, 2026

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- we're about to journey
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Into a day of remembrance and reflection.
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This is incredibly important to the jewish people.
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Yom hashoah is the day that commemorates tragedy,
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Experienced during the holocaust.
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This day allows us not only to reflect on history
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And see the pain experienced by god's people,
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But also informs us about god's character today.
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Let's take a look at yom hashoah,
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How it connects the past and present, old and new,
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Jew and gentile.
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I'm rabbi jason sobel, and this is god's appointed times.
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For generations, there have been existential threats
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To the children of israel, to the jewish people,
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From haman's plot to kill the jews in persia
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To the nazi party in the 20th century,
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There have always been people
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Who wanna see the covenant people
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Of god wiped from the face of the earth.
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The holocaust left a wake of trauma in pain
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For the jewish people, not only from the millions
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Of jewish people brutally murdered by nazi germany,
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But by the lives destroyed by the fracturing of families.
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The wounds of the holocaust still run very deep.
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I lost most of my family during the holocaust.
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My grandmother had to make an unthinkable decision.
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She was forced to decide who she was going to save,
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Her parents or her brother, his wife,
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And their newborn baby.
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She rescued her brother and the newborn baby.
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The nazis murdered her mother and father.
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They were killed in transit
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To a concentration camp on my great-grandmother's birthday.
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The jewish people have never stopped feeling the trauma
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Of the holocaust.
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Even until this day, that pain is still so very real.
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It echoes throughout history.
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And while the holocaust is maybe the most tragic event
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In the history of the human race,
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It is not an isolated incident.
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There have been numerous full-scale attacks
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Against the jewish people,
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Even as recently as the attack on october 7th, 2023.
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Looking at history as a whole, we have to ask ourselves,
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Why have the jewish people, when the target of persecution
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And oppression in so many different places
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And across so many different time periods?
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War is an unfortunate reality of our fallen world.
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When haman wanted to wipe out the jews in persia,
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He was willing to pay a ton of money and put countless lives
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On the line just because he had a bruised ego.
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He wanted to see the children of israel gone at all costs,
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Even though he wouldn't gain anything.
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When hitler was facing defeat,
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About to lose the second world war,
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He took vital military resources and assets
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That he needed to defend himself
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And diverted those resources
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To murdering even more jewish people.
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This wasn't a strategic decision. it was purely evil.
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Satan has been attacking the jewish people for centuries.
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I want us to unpack why.
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Yom hashoah is about reflecting on the terror
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And tragedy of the holocaust.
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And i want to do this through a spiritual lens.
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I want to explore why satan is so determined
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To see the covenant people of god destroyed,
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And what that means for gentile believers today.
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And what that means for gentile believers today.
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- i'm pastor bobby chandler,
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And i'm the lead pastor of authentic church.
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It's important for believers to value the old,
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The old testament 'cause it's the old covenant,
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And we see what god's people went through,
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And what they had to experience.
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But it also leads us to the new covenant in jesus christ,
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That he died for our sins,
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That because of his blood, we can be forgiven and set free,
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And that none of us are perfect,
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But that we can come to him.
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And it's just a better understanding of god's grace
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And hope for the future.
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- i am so excited that you're here.
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- yes.
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- thank you so much for joining us.
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I love watching all of the content that you create.
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- thank you.
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- on social media. it's absolutely so encouraging.
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And i know that you are from north carolina.
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- yes. yes.
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- and i lived in north carolina for a time,
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And that's where i learned to say, shalom, y'all. (laughs)
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- yes. yes. - and bless your heart.
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- yes, bless your heart. you gotta watch out for those.
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They could be a little dangerous sometimes.
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- you know, we're talking about a serious topic here,
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Yom hashoah, israel independence day.
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But i want to start by asking you a question.
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You know, what would you do and how would you feel
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If someone were to attack your family?
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- mm.
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I would be extremely upset,
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And do everything that i can to defend my family, you know,
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These are people that i love.
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These are people that i care about.
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These are people that i know god's promise is for.
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And so it would hurt my heart,
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But also the fear of going day after day of thinking,
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Who's going to attack?
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Who's gonna come after me? who's gonna say something?
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What do people think? you know, it's gotta be haunting.
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- what you have said is exactly
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How the jewish people have felt throughout history,
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And we're talking about yom hashoah.
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So i think a question oftentimes people raise is, you know,
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Why have the jewish people been attacked?
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- yeah.
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- throughout history, 'cause it doesn't seem to make sense.
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I mean, we're relatively small.
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We're one half of 1% or less of the world's population.
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- yeah. yeah.
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- and yet, there is such a historic antisemitism.
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And i think the simple answer to that is it's satanic.
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- it is, yes.
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- western civilization is built
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On the judeo-christian worldview.
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And the foundation of that is the old testament.
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It is the hebrew scriptures. it is the 10 commandments.
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And god makes promises to israel.
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So if you attack the jewish people,
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If you destroy the jewish people,
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Basically what you prove is that god's word is not true.
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The whole thing is false. - yes.
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- you can throw it out the window.
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And it undermines the morality and the ethics that we have,
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That has been so powerful in shaping our culture
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And our country.
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And i think we're seeing the demise of that.
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I'm sure you're seeing
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That of what's going on in our culture.
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- and when you say that, i think, you know, in genesis,
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When god is speaking to abraham, he said, listen,
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I'm gonna make you and you're gonna become a nation,
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And i wanna bless you,
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And i'm gonna bless those that bless you,
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And i'm gonna curse those who curse you.
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And there's a physical aspect of it,
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But there's also a spiritual aspect of it.
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- absolutely.
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- and we're seeing the physical, we're seeing the violence,
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We're seeing the hatred, we're seeing people attack.
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And at the same time, as christians, as believers,
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We need to be praying over the spiritual,
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Like ephesians 6:12 talks about the spiritual warfare,
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These principalities.
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- we're not fighting against flesh and blood.
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This goes back all the way to the garden of eden
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Where the serpent tempted adam and eve.
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And god says, there's gonna be this perpetual battle
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Between the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent
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That is gonna go on throughout the end of time
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Until ultimately, you know, messiah returns.
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- [pastor bobby] yes.
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- and i think that is another key to understanding
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Why there is a satanic root to this spirit of antisemitism,
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Because jesus is very clear in the new testament.
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He's with his disciples, they're overlooking jerusalem.
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And he says to them, you will not see me again,
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Until you say baruch ha-ba b'shem adonai.
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Blessed is he who comes in the name of the lord.
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- yeah.
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- and that's so significant to understand that expression.
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If you go to a jewish home on the welcome mass,
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It'll say b'ruchim haba'im or, you know,
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You've been to israel.
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When you go to ben gurion airport,
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There's a big sign that says, b'ruchim haba'im, welcome.
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And so it's the same phrase also,
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That when the groom walks down the aisle,
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It says, baruch ha-ba, welcome.
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So until the jewish people welcome yeshua, jesus,
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As their messiah, he's not going to return
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And establish the kingdom.
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And so that's part of the reason why jewish people
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In part have been attacked in the name of jesus
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Throughout church history
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Because the enemy wants to do false things.
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- yes. - evil things.
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- yes. - in the name of jesus.
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- [pastor bobby] yes.
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- so that jewish people won't believe,
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So he could either delay the second coming,
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Or if he can destroy the jewish people,
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Theoretically he could prevent the second coming,
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Which we know he can't, or prove god is a liar,
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That he's not faithful to his promises.
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And you know, i think that's one of the reasons
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Why the enemy attacks in general,
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Like, to get jewish people to not believe,
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And to get all people to not believe.
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- yeah, yeah. you know, you're speaking about that.
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So when i got to visit israel
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And saw the holocaust museum out there, watching the,
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Or looking at the agendas that they placed on the walls,
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So the nazis would use magazines and the media today,
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And what they would do with that,
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Is they would put jewish people on the covers.
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But if you look at those covers,
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You notice that the nazis would always look
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Like a superhero, strong and good-looking.
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And then the jewish people,
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They would make usually very short,
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Kind of evil looking, kind of wicked.
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And so it was propaganda, the day.
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And they were slowly, again, this is what satan does,
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He gets into the minds of people, manipulates the truth.
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And they were turning people against the jewish people.
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And i believe it's the same demonic spirit
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We're seeing today.
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- there was a saying, you know, when we were growing up,
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We used to say, sticks and stones, they break my bones,
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But names will never hurt me.
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But that's not true,
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Because those lies and those negative words
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Actually can lead to sticks and stones. (laughs)
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- yeah. yeah.
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- is what we, and again,
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We see that against the jewish people.
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We see that even on the political spectrum with,
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You know, people trying to create fear against one party
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Or another, and a lot of lies and propaganda.
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And i think we have to overcome that with the truth.
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And i think that there's another thing i think
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That's key to understanding with this kind of satanic attack
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Against israel, which i think it goes back
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To a mafia mentality, you know, i grew up in new jersey.
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We're both the mall state and the mafia state,
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You know, the sopranos, forget about it.
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You're talking to me, you know what i'm talking about.
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(pastor bobby laughs)
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- yeah, yeah, yeah.
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- i grew up with some of those guys.
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- [pastor bobby] yeah.
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- and you know, satan is the ultimate gangster,
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And if a gangster or a cartel, you know, can't get to you,
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They'll go after your family.
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And that's what i see going on as well,
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Like, satan knows he can't defeat god.
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He can't hurt jesus. he's all powerful.
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So what does he do? he goes after god's children.
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And i think that is what we see going on today.
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The enemy is going after the children of israel,
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The jewish people who have these promises by god,
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They are the physical, biological descendants.
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- yes.
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- [rabbi jason] you know, of jesus.
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- yeah.
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- and you know, jesus loves his family. (laughs)
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- yeah. yeah.
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- you know, and he cares for them.
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- [pastor bobby] he does.
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- and you know, i think that's one of the things we see,
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Is that when we talk about the incarnation,
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The incarnation is ultimately about identification.
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God takes on flesh and blood
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Because he identifies with the pain of humanity.
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We tend to focus on the crucifixion and
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The resurrection,
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But the incarnation was as great a sacrifice of the lord
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To come outta heaven into earth, into human flesh,
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And to experience everything
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That this fallen world has in it, all the pain,
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The suffering, and the rejection.
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He does that to identify with humanity.
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But he also does it to identify with the jewish people.
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- yes.
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- because he comes not just as a generic human being,
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But he comes as a son of david.
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- [pastor bobby] yes.
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- and so the jewish people suffering is his suffering.
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You can't say you love the king of the jews
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And hate his family.
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- exactly. exactly.
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(intense music)
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- glad we can continue our conversation.
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- yes.
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- i've really enjoyed our time so far.
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You know, this is such an important subject.
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You know, the holocaust was horrible,
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But there's another aspect to it as well.
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You know, jeremiah 31:36 says,
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"israel will never cease from before me."
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And it's easy,
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And we should focus on the lives that were lost,
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And the tragedy of the 6 million, i lost
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Much of my family,
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You know, during the holocaust as well.
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But there was also god, there was also god's hand
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In that the jewish people were not destroyed,
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The genocide was not completed.
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And that god kept his promise that israel would not cease
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To exist from before him.
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And that it was actually out of the ashes of auschwitz,
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That god births the modern state of israel.
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And so what hitler
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And the forces of darkness meant for evil,
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God ultimately brought good out of the evil,
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And the loss and tragedy wasn't pointless.
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- yeah.
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- but god brought purpose
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And he had a plan even out of the pain.
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And i think that's so important, you know, to remember,
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Like when you look at the holocaust
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Or you look at the modern state of israel,
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How do you see god's faithfulness and promises
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To the jewish people and to us in the midst of it?
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- yeah. well, look at the miracles.
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It's a miracle.
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It's a miracle that the nation of israel is here today.
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It's a miracle that the people speak hebrew. it's a miracle.
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And it's also, it's seeing god's promises like come to life,
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You know?
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And sometimes it's hard to see it through the trials
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And through the battles.
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And i know even from my family
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And some of the battles that we faced in planning a church,
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Reaching people all over the world for the kingdom of god,
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There's different battles that you face, different trials
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That you go through, but you hold on to the promises of god.
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And so here we have the bible
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And the biblical text out of the old testament telling us
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That god spoke to abraham, that god spoke to the israelites,
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Hey, i got a better land for you flowing with milk
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And honey.
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And even though pharaoh's coming after you,
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And it feels like you're at a dead end right now,
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I'm gonna open up the sea and you can get on the other side.
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And so what i'm seeing right now is this miracle.
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It's the other side, but yet we're not fully there yet too.
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There's still a lot of fulfillment to take place.
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And yes, there will be more trials and more battles,
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But again, it gets me excited about jesus coming back.
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And i believe,
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I personally believe we are very near to that.
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And that's what's so exciting
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About watching what's happening in israel.
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- yeah, i think it is important
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That in our conversation we're tying yom hashoah,
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Shoah being the hebrew word for holocaust.
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- [pastor bobby] yes.
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- to the birth of the modern state of israel,
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Both from the perspective of we can't just focus
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On the tragedy,
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We have to look at what god brought out of it.
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- [pastor bobby] yeah.
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- but i think there's another important connection
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That we need to address as well, because today,
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One of the things that we see happening is holocaust denial.
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There's a number of people out there on social media,
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And it is actually scary, it is a growing movement.
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- yeah.
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- that wants to say that either it was a zionist conspiracy
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That, you know, either jews wanted it to happen,
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Let it happen, because they knew that was the only way
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They were going to get sympathy for the birth
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Of the modern state of israel to justify it,
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To turn world opinion.
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- yeah.
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- in favor of it.
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Or there are those who are saying, well, some jews died,
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But it wasn't 6 million, jews made that number up.
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And so there is a real sense in which holocaust denial
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Is a new form of antisemitism.
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- [pastor bobby] yeah.
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- but it's also connected to anti-israel
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Because by trying to diminish the reality of the holocaust,
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They're trying to delegitimize the modern state.
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- [pastor bobby] yeah.
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- of israel.
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And i know when you went to israel,
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You went to yad vashem, the holocaust-
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- yes. - museum.
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- yeah.
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- i mean, is there any doubt in your mind
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Of the scale and the scope of the holocaust?
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I mean, and how did it impact you, what you saw?
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- yeah, like i said, just being able to see the stories,
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And there's a certain section in the museum
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Where they have all the shoes of all the victims.
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And you see these shoes and to me as a pastor too,
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Each shoe is a story, each shoe is a person.
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Each shoe represents somebody who is living for god
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That was in torment.
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And the historical evidence is there,
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Just like it is with jesus, you know,
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When jesus was on the cross and rose from the dead,
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They were trying to say, no, no, no.
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You know, the disciples took his body down.
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They were trying to deny the truth.
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And that's what the enemy has always done.
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When i say enemy, i'm talking about satan.
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I mean, he has always tried to twist the truth
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That this is not of god, this is something manmade.
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This is an agenda.
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This is something that's not true for your life. why?
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Because it keeps you enslaved to this bondage.
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But the truth is, when you look at god's word, right,
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The hope is that jesus is coming back.
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And again, it all points to jerusalem.
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But being at the museum, like i said,
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It opened my eyes to the stories.
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And so there's so many pictures there of people,
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And they try to give you their story,
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Try to let you see their life through their eyes
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And what they experienced.
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There's so much film documentation too, as well.
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Historical evidence.
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The shoes and just, there's no way you can deny it.
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And the fact that people want to deny it again,
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Is an agenda from the enemy.
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But i believe too,
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It's what the bible speaks about is spiritual blindness.
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It's in some sense,
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It's wanting to live however you want to live.
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Do what you wanna do.
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- [rabbi jason] yeah.
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- listen to the world instead of listening to god.
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And you're gonna be manipulated in that way
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Because jesus also stated it like this,
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You can't serve two masters, okay?
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You're gonna love one. you're gonna hate the other.
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And so that's what we're seeing right now in our culture.
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Those that don't know god,
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Don't have a relationship with jesus,
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Are paying attention to what's happening in israel.
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What if you're just paying attention
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To what the worldview is, what the world is telling you,
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Then guess what?
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You are gonna love one and you're gonna hate the other.
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And so that's what we're seeing.
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But historical evidence, it's all there.
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Go to israel, touch it. it's amazing.
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- yeah, i think it's so meaningful and moving
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That you mentioned that each shoe represents a story.
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- yeah.
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- and you know,
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I can just tell you from my own personal experience,
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I lost my great-grandparents.
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I lost, you know, uncles and cousins, you know,
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Going back and, you know,
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My family would've been radically different, you know,
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Had i not lost the majority of it on my mom's side
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In the holocaust, when i hear people denied,
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It's just so sad.
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- [pastor bobby] yeah.
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- so heartbreaking.
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And that form of historical relativism and revisionism,
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I think which you are alluding to,
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Ultimately they will apply that to the bible.
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- yes.
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- you're right.
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If we don't take objective truth and history seriously,
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And we think we can deny, you know, whatever,
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That's where ultimately goes to a delegitimization,
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Not only of israel and the jewish people,
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But if god in the bible.
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- yes.
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(gentle music)
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Yeah, i believe it's very important to always be poured
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Into by other pastors.
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It can be easily a draining ministry
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To pour into other people,
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So i need other people to speak into my life,
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But at the same time, all of us, we don't know everything.
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And so there's somebody else
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That's gonna bring a new revelation, a new insight,
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And something that can change your life.
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And so meeting with rabbi jason today
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Was a wonderful experience, learning new things.
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And now, i get to preach those things.
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And now, i get to preach those things.
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(gentle music)
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- yom hashoah is a day of tragedy.
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It's important for us to remember history
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Because if we don't, we are doomed to repeat it.
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The pain of the holocaust is still felt today by my family
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And by so many other jewish families,
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Especially when we remember those that we've lost.
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But for gentile believers, there is a call to action.
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Yom hashoah is a modern day remembrance,
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But it is ancient spiritual roots.
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The spiritual forces that compelled haman
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And hitler still exist today.
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The enemy wants to see the covenant people
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Of god destroyed even to this very moment in history.
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As gentile believers, you know this,
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So it becomes your responsibility to
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Resist the enemy
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And reject the spirit of antisemitism.
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You don't have to look far to find antisemitism.
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Turn on the news
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And you'll see jewish people being harassed,
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Assaulted, persecuted.
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A sad fact is that oftentimes
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That hatred can even come from followers of yeshua.
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Replacement theology has told certain believers
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That the church has replaced the jewish people
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In god's eyes.
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This simply is not true.
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In romans 11, paul says,
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"but if some of the branches were broken off in you,
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Being a wild olive, were grafted in among them,
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And became a partaker of the root of the olive tree
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With its richness, do not boast against the branches.
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But if you do boast, it is not you who support the root,
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But the root who supports you."
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He's talking about jews and gentiles.
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If you're a gentile believer,
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You have been grafted in to the people of god.
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We feed from the same root.
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This means an attack on the jewish people is an attack
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Against your spiritual family.
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Satan would love nothing more than for us
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To forget the role,
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The children of israel play in god's prophetic plan.
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He would love for us to dismiss the jewish people.
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This has been the enemy's tactic for a very long time.
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And exodus 1, it says, "now, there arose a new king
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Over egypt, who did not know joseph."
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He said to his people, look,
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The children of israel are too numerous
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And too powerful for us.
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Come, let us deal with them shrewdly,
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Or else they will grow even more numerous,
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So that if war breaks out, they may join our enemies,
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Fight against us, and then escape from the land.
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The king didn't remember what joseph,
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A hebrew man had done for egypt.
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He had forgotten the history.
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And because of this, he oppressed the children of israel.
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Their identity was forgotten, their humanity stripped away,
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And they became like slaves.
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Hitler's first step in oppressing the jewish people
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Was spreading anti-jewish propaganda.
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Why?
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Because he knew that if he could create enough lies
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About the jewish people,
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Then the german public would accept them as less than human,
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And the door would be left open for evil.
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Yom hashoah should be a call to gentiles
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To remember the tragedy of the holocaust,
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But also the value and identity of god's chosen people.
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It's an opportunity for you to stand shoulder to shoulder
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With the jewish people, to visit israel,
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To donate to humanitarian causes for those living in israel,
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And to pray for the jewish community.
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We can't afford to forget the past,
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And we should embrace the opportunity to shape the future.
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I'm rabbi jason sobel,
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And this has been god's appointed times.
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Jason Sobel & Bobby Chandler: Yom HaShoah | God's Appointed Times

February 5, 2026 | S3 E5 | 26:19

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