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Harvest with Pastor Greg Laurie | Greg Laurie - Christmas B.C. | December 18, 2024
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- Greg laurie: christ was not born in a manger
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- So we could go shopping.
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- Christ was not born so that we could go to parties.
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- Christ was born so we'd realize
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- We don't have to be alone in life.
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- The message of christmas is you're not alone.
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- Emmanuel, god is with us, and god can be more than with you,
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- He can be in you.
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- ♪ this is the day, the day where life begins ♪
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- ♪ this is the day, the day where life begins ♪♪
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- Greg: the real story of christmas goes back really far,
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- Before mary and joseph, before bethlehem, before shepherds and
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- Wise men, before caesar augustus and herod, or the innkeeper.
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- In fact, the first mention of christmas is b.c.,
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- Which is before christ.
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- You say, "but how's that possible?"
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- Because it goes back long ago to a garden, the garden of eden,
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- And in that garden there was a tree.
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- We can call it the first christmas tree, if you like.
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- It wasn't decorated with lights and ornaments.
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- It was a mysterious tree called the tree of the knowledge
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- Of good and evil, okay?
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- So here's adam and eve.
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- They were in a literal paradise, radiant beauty at every turn,
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- Exotic wildlife, the perfect temperature, and best of all,
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- No sin or the guilt and shame that accompanies them.
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- So god's just saying to them, "here you are.
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- Enjoy all that i have created.
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- There's one restriction, only one: stay away from
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- The tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
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- Scene 2, adam and eve
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- At the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
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- Why are they there?
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- God says, "don't go there."
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- "all right, right, here we are."
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- The other day, my wife and i were with some of our grandkids
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- And they went home ahead of us and cathe says,
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- "don't look in my office. stay out of my office."
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- So i said, "cathe, now they're gonna go look in there,"
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- 'cause she had some presents there for 'em.
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- You tell someone, "don't do that, and the first thing we
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- Wanna do is do the thing we were told not to do, right?"
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- 'cause we think our parents are keeping us from something or
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- The reason they say you can't do it is because it's really cool.
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- That's what they thought.
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- But listen, if god tells you to not do something,
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- It's for your own good.
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- When are we gonna learn that?
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- The bible says: "no good thing will he withhold
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- From those that walk uprightly."
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- If god says, "no," then that's a bad thing.
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- He's keeping you away from it.
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- If it's a good thing, he'll give it to you.
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- But anyway, they went to that tree.
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- You know the rest of the story.
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- They enter into a conversation with the devil,
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- Which is never a good idea.
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- The bible says: "resist the devil and he will flee
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- From you," but no, adam and eve are conversing with the devil,
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- And he tells them, "go ahead and eat of this fruit because
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- In the day you eat thereof, you will be as a god,
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- Knowing good and evil."
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- And genesis 3:6 says: "the woman was convinced.
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- The fruit looked so fresh and delicious,
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- And it would make her so wise.
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- So she ate some of the fruit and gave some to her husband,
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- And he ate it too.
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- And their eyes were opened."
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- Yeah, their eyes were opened, all right.
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- But they did not become gods.
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- They realized they had been fools.
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- And they lost that sweet fellowship with god.
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- That's the worst thing about sin.
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- When your fellowship with god is stopped.
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- Not your relationship with god.
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- See, if you have a child that's disobedient, they're still your
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- Child but that communication has a breakdown.
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- In the same way, if we sin against god, we're still
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- A child of god but now our communication has a breakdown.
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- Every day the lord would show up in the garden when the sun was
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- Setting and he and his friend adam would talk about what adam
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- Had seen in the garden that day.
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- What a great opportunity.
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- But now, communication is severed.
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- You know, one of the worst things about having your
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- Fellowship with god broken down is you lose that joy.
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- That's why david said in psalm 51 after he had sinned,
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- "restore unto me the joy of my salvation."
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- Have you lost that joy?
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- Has your fellowship with god broken down in some
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- Way, shape, or form?
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- And so the lord comes for his daily appointment
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- With adam, calling out, "adam, where are you?"
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- And adam says, "well, we heard your voice and we're
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- Naked and we're hiding."
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- And then the lord says, "who told you you were naked?"
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- Question: did god know where adam was?
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- Of course.
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- God is omniscient, which means all-knowing.
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- Why did god say, "adam, where are you?
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- Have you eaten of this tree?"
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- Because god wanted confession.
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- The only way to get rid of your sin is to confess it to god.
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- Don't make excuses for it, don't try to cover it up.
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- Just own it, admit it, confess it, and be forgiven of it.
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- 1 john 1:9 says: "if we will confess our sin, he is faithful
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- And just to forgive us our sin and cleanse us
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- From all unrighteousness."
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- So god demands an explanation.
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- Adam said, "lord, it's the woman you gave me."
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- First excuse of all time.
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- "the woman you gave me."
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- Now, how did he say that?
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- Did he say, "lord, it's the woman you gave me.
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- It's her fault.
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- Lord, i was--i laid down to take a nap, i wake up,
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- A rib is missing, and she's here"?
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- Or did he say, "it's the woman you gave me,"
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- Placing the blame on god?
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- Well, whatever it was, he wasn't taking responsibility.
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- And then the woman, she doesn't take responsibility either.
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- She says, "well, that serpent tricked me.
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- It's the devil's fault."
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- And now god gives the first christmas verse.
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- It's not isaiah 9:6 which says: "unto us a child is born,
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- Unto us a son is given.
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- His name shall be called wonderful, counselor,
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- The mighty god, the everlasting father."
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- Nor is it micah 5:2 that says: "you bethlehem, though you
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- Be little among the thousands of judah, yet out of you shall
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- Come forth one whose origins have been from everlasting."
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- No, it's neither one of those verses.
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- The first christmas verse is genesis 3:15 where god now
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- Says to satan: "there's coming one who will bruise your head,
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- But you will bruise his heel."
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- Satan was on notice.
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- God was saying, "devil, i'm gonna send the messiah.
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- He's gonna crush your head.
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- You'll bruise his heel, but he'll crush you."
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- So, the devil knew, game on.
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- The battle lines have been drawn.
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- And satan knew specifically that the messiah
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- Was gonna come through the jewish people.
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- Antisemitism was born.
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- What is antisemitism?
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- It's a hatred of the jewish people
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- Who are god's chosen people.
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- And the devil declares war on what god loves,
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- And he tries to stop the jewish race and, specifically,
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- Stop the messiah from coming.
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- And that really is what christmas is all about.
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- You're saying, "this is not a very christmassy message, greg."
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- Well, we'll hear some messages a little bit later on that might
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- Be a little more to your liking, but i'm trying to pull
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- The camera back and give you the big picture.
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- Jesus was born to die that we might live.
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- Listen to this: "the shadow of the cross lay over the beauty
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- Of the first christmas night."
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- Jesus was coming to bridge the gap between god and humanity,
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- And he was going to restore what was lost in the garden.
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- And satan did not want there to be a first christmas.
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- You've heard about the grinch that stole christmas, right?
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- I think some people know that story better than the biblical
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- Story of the birth of christ.
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- Well, this is the devil who tried
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- To stop christmas from happening.
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- It goes clear back to the first books of the bible,
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- Like in the book of exodus.
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- Here we have the pharaoh give an order, saying,
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- "i don't want any of those jewish baby boys to live.
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- Put them all to death," and the hebrew midwives refused, of
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- Course, and moses was spared and ultimately became the one
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- Who would deliver israel in the great exodus.
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- Fast forward to the book of esther.
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- You have a plot hatched by a wicked man named haman
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- To wipe the jews off the face of the earth.
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- This plan was thwarted by queen esther who was jewish,
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- And haman ended up hanging on the very gallows
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- He had erected for others.
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- So all attempts to stop christmas were failing.
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- But now fast forward to the new testament and we're in
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- The gospel of matthew, and we have king herod sitting on
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- The throne, and these mysterious visitors come looking for
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- "he that had been born known as the king of the jews."
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- There's not a worse thing you could have said to a guy like
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- Herod than, "we're looking for the king of the jews."
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- Why? that was his title.
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- They're basically saying,
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- "you're not the king of the jews.
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- We're looking for the king of the jews.
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- We've seen his star in the east
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- And we have come to worship him."
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- So, herod gave the decree, "kill all those baby boys
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- Born in bethlehem."
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- He was trying to stop christmas, but listen to this.
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- That was never going to happen.
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- You can't stop messiah from coming and listen to this:
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- Nothing will stop christ from coming again.
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- He's gonna come again.
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- Because god will always have the last word.
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- And right on time, the messiah came,
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- Born in the manger in bethlehem.
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- Galatians says: "when the time was just right, god sent forth
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- His son, born of a woman, made under the law, to redeem those
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- That are under the law, that we might receive the spirit
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- Of adoption whereby we cry, 'abba father.'"
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- But listen, jesus did not begin his existence in bethlehem.
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- Jesus is god.
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- He has always existed.
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- He has neither beginning nor end.
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- He, like the father and the holy spirit, is co-equal, co-eternal.
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- He himself said, "i am the alpha and the omega,
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- The beginning and the end."
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- So the real christmas story does not begin in bethlehem
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- Or even on planet earth.
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- It begins in heaven where a decision was made
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- That christ would come to our world.
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- So, was there a christ before christmas?
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- Is there a jesus before bethlehem?
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- The answer is "yes," and that's what we're talking about.
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- Because really, the story of christmas is both about
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- An arrival and a departure.
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- We celebrate his birth at christmas,
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- But heaven was sending the messiah.
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- Isaiah 9:6 sums it up: "unto us a child is born,
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- Unto us a son is given."
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- Our perspective, a child was born.
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- God's perspective: a son was given.
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- And his name shall be called wonderful, counselor,
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- The mighty god, the everlasting father."
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- That was deity in diapers.
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- That was the almighty god coming to us as a helpless
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- Little baby born in that manger of bethlehem.
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- So now let's look at some christophanies.
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- You're going, "i don't know what you're talking about."
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- Well, theologians have a couple of terms.
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- One is a theophany which means an appearance of god.
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- Another is a christophany.
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- And i suggest to you christ appeared many times
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- In the old testament.
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- Listen, jesus is in the old testament concealed,
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- And he's in the new testament revealed.
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- So we read a lot about jesus in the new testament but
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- He was around in the old testament a lot as well.
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- Example, the story of abraham and isaac on mount moriah.
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- Now, we know that jesus and abraham met each
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- Other and communicated.
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- Jesus said that.
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- When did this happen?
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- Now, we're guessing but i think this is a pretty educated guess.
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- Genesis 22 is the story of abraham and his son, isaac.
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- As you'll recall, isaac was born in the later years of abraham
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- And his wife sarah.
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- God had promised them that they would have a son and from their
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- Son would come the jewish race.
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- But they were getting on in years and sarah
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- Was not pregnant.
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- Now she's, well, past the time when a woman should normally
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- Get pregnant and she, all of a sudden, is pregnant
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- With isaac and the child is born and, by the way,
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- The name "isaac" means laughter.
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- Because he filled their home with joy.
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- He was the light of their life.
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- Imagine how hard it must have been when god asked
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- The incomprehensible of abraham and said, "take that son of
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- Yours and offer to him--offer him to me as a sacrifice."
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- Genesis 22:1: "god tested abraham's faith and obedience.
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- 'abraham,' god called.
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- 'yes,' he replied. 'here i am.'
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- 'take your son, your only son--yes, isaac,
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- Whom you love so much-- and go to the land of moriah.
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- Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering.'
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- Isaac asked his father, 'where's the lamb for the sacrifice?'"
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- Now abraham prophetically says in genesis 22:8:
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- "'my son, god will provide for himself
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- The lamb for a burnt offering.'
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- And the two of them went together."
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- Now, sometimes in religious art you'll see this depicted
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- As a older man with a very young boy.
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- But that's really not the way it was.
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- Isaac was probably a young adult at this point,
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- Full grown and strong.
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- He knew what was coming down.
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- He wasn't stupid, okay?
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- He knew that he was gonna be sacrificed.
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- Potentially, he could have said, "dad, you're an old dude.
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- Why don't we sacrifice you instead of me?
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- 'cause i have a whole life ahead of me.
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- Most of your life is behind you, right?"
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- No, but he didn't do that.
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- Isaac went along with this which makes it so amazing.
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- And is this not a picture of what happened at the cross?
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- I love how genesis 22:8 says: "the two of them went together."
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- And this is exactly what happened when jesus died
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- On the cross for us.
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- The father, son, and the holy spirit working toward
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- This goal of the redemption of mankind.
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- The father making the ultimate sacrifice in giving his son,
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- Again, back to isaiah 9:6, "unto us a son is given,"
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- The son making the ultimate sacrifice
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- In laying his life down.
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- Jesus said, "no one takes my life from me.
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- I lay it down of my own accord.
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- Greater love has no man than this," our lord says,
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- Then he laid down his life for his friends.
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- Even what god said to abraham is reminiscent of what jesus did.
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- Genesis 22: "take your son, your only son,
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- Whom you love so much."
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- That gives you a glimpse of what happened at the cross
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- From the perspective of the father.
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- His only son.
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- What did jesus say in john 3:16?
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- "for god so loved the world, he gave his only begotten son
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- And whoever believes in him shall not perish,
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- But have everlasting life."
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- So, abraham's preparing now to plunge the knife into his son.
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- And by the way, he believed that if isaac died,
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- God would raise him again from the dead.
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- That's interesting considering that no one had been
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- Raised from the dead at this point, historically.
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- But still, abraham believed that and right before the knife
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- Comes down, genesis 22:11: "at that moment the angel of
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- The lord shouted to him from heaven, 'abraham!
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- Abraham!' 'yes,' he said.
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- The lord said, "lay down the knife.
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- Don't hurt the boy in any way, for now i know that you truly
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- Fear god, you've not withheld your beloved son from me."
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- Notice that it says: "the angel of the lord."
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- Not "an angel"; "the angel."
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- And to the point, who told abraham to offer his son, isaac?
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- Was it an angel or was it god himself?
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- It was god.
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- So it's worth noting here that the angel, so called, says,
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- "you did not withhold your beloved son from me."
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- I believe that this so-called angel was none other
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- Than christ himself.
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- I believe this is a christophany
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- And jesus stepped in to this situation.
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- And it reminds us that god is with us in our times of testing.
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- Are you going through a time of testing right now?
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- The bottom has dropped out,
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- Something unexpected has happened.
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- You're facing a time of crisis.
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- You feel as though god has abandoned you
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- Or forgotten about you.
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- Nothing could be further from the truth.
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- I love what the lord says over in isaiah 43:2, god speaking:
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- "when you go through deep waters, i'll be with you.
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- When you go through rivers of difficulties,
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- You will not drown.
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- When you walk through the fire of oppression,
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- You will not be burned up, the flames will not consume you."
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- God's saying, "i'm there with you."
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- And god is with you right now, whatever you're going through.
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- Okay, so let's go to christophany number two.
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- The wrestling match between jacob and the angel.
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- It's in genesis 32.
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- Jacob had made a mess of his life.
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- He had offended his brother esau, he had been a conniver,
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- Fell out with his father-in-law laban,
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- Was facing the consequences of all of his bad decisions.
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- In effect, he was rebelling against god.
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- And genesis 32:24 says that "jacob was alone in the camp,
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- And a man came and wrestled with him
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- Until the dawn began to break.
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- When the man saw he could not--or would not win the match,
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- He touched jacob's hips--hip and wrenched it out of its socket.
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- Then the man said, 'let me go, the dawn is breaking!'
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- Jacob said, 'i'll not let you go until you bless me.'
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- 'what is your name?' the man says.
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- Your name will no longer be called jacob,'"
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- Because jacob said what his name was.
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- "'from now on you'll be called israel,' and jacob called
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- That place peniel (which means 'face of god'),
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- For he said, 'i have seen god face to face.'"
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- I don't think jacob was wrestling with an angel.
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- I think he was wrestling with god,
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- And specifically he was having a wrestling match with jesus.
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- That's never going to end well.
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- Don't laugh too quickly; you've wrestled with him before.
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- Have you ever known the will of god and refused to do it?
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- Resisted it?
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- Maybe the lord nudged you, "why don't you go,
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- Share the gospel with that person over there?
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- Why don't you go apologize to your spouse
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- For what you just said?"
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- Why don't you do this or that, and we say
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- "no, i don't want to."
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- Or the lord shows his will to us and we refuse
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- To go in that direction.
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- And so here's what god is saying:
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- "jacob, when are you gonna discover that my plan for you
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- Is better than your plan for yourself?"
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- Let me ask you this question.
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- Do you feel like you're carrying the weight of the world on your
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- Shoulders right now, trying to figure out how to resolve
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- Problems that you have created?
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- It's time to surrender to god.
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- So now here's old jacob.
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- Of course, he's fighting. fighting with the lord.
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- And then toward the end, he's hanging on to him.
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- The lord's like, "i gotta go."
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- "you're not going anywhere 'til you bless me."
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- "okay." i like that, though.
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- You see, he went from resisting to resting.
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- He went from cunning to clinging.
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- He went from wrestling to nestling.
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- Now he's hanging on to god.
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- He had learned his lesson and he had surrendered his will to god.
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- Can you do the same?
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- Is this boring?
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- Too bad, i'm still going.
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- Okay, i have one more 'cause like, eight people, "no,"
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- The others like, "i need to go.
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- I gotta go christmas shopping."
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- All right, one more christophany for you: the story of
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- Shadrach, meshach, and abednego in the fiery furnace.
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- You know their story.
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- It's in the book of daniel.
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- These three young godly men who would not bow before
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- The false image of nebuchadnezzar.
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- So the people of israel were taken captive
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- By the babylonians.
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- Why--because they kept turning to false gods.
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- God warned them again and again,
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- "stop worshiping these false gods.
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- Stop turning to these idols.
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- Turn to me."
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- Yeah, whatever.
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- They went back to the false gods again and again.
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- The lord says, "okay, you want false gods, you want idols.
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- I'm sending you to idol central, babylon."
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- And they were taken captive.
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- And as they were being taken to this distant land,
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- Nebuchadnezzar noticed these four young men, shadrach,
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- Meshach, and abednego.
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- Those were not their jewish names or these were the names
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- He gave to them later.
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- And we know them best by those names.
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- And daniel.
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- He says, "i want you in my court.
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- I wanna school you at the babylonian university
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- And teach you the ways of babylon."
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- So that's a pretty sweet deal.
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- If they play their cards right, they would live
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- In the lap of luxury and affluence and influence.
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- But one day, nebuchadnezzar erects a giant image, covered
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- In gold, and commands everyone in the kingdom to worship it.
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- And as soon as the band cranked up the babylonian idol theme
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- Song, everyone bowed down before the idol except three men
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- Who stuck out like sore thumbs: shadrach, meshach, and abednego.
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- They were wearing black leather motorcycle jackets,
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- Wearing sunglasses, had their wallet on a chain 'cause if
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- You ride a motorcycle, you have to have a chain to your wallet
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- And i'm not sure why.
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- Who's gonna take a wallet from a biker?
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- I don't know.
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- But that, of course, i made that up, but they're,
- 00:22:13.069 --> 00:22:15.204
- "no, we won't bow."
- 00:22:15.204 --> 00:22:17.173
- They sent word to the king, "those guys,
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- Shadrach, meshach, and abednego, they serve in your palace.
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- They won't bow." "oh, they just misunderstood.
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- Give 'em another chance."
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- "c'mon, guys, bow before the image."
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- They said, "we're not bowing. we refuse."
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- He was so angry, he commanded that the furnace be heated
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- Seven times hotter and he told his men to throw
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- Shadrach, meshach, and abednego into the fiery furnace.
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- The flames were so hot, it killed the king's servants
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- As they came to the edge of the abyss, and in went
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- These three young men and here's what we read in daniel 3:23:
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- "shadrach, meshach, and abednego, securely tied,
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- Fell down into the roaring flames.
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- But suddenly, as he was watching, nebuchadnezzar
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- Jumped up in amazement and exclaimed to his advisers,
- 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:06.489
- 'wait, didn't we throw three men into the furnace?'
- 00:23:06.489 --> 00:23:09.925
- 'yes, your majesty, three men.'
- 00:23:09.925 --> 00:23:11.460
- 'look!' nebuchadnezzar said.
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- 'i see four men, walking around in the fire.
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- They're not hurt by the flames and the fourth one looks
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- Like the son of god--!'" a christophany.
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- Who was walking around with shadrach, meshach, and abednego
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- In the fiery furnace?
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- Jesus.
- 00:23:28.811 --> 00:23:30.146
- "hey, guys, need some sunscreen?
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- How's it going?"
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- And god is walking around with you in your fiery furnace.
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- Again, you are not alone.
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- He comes to us and he says,
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- "i'll never leave you or forsake you."
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- And if you were to translate that more literally, it would
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- Go as follows: jesus speaking, "i will never, no never,
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- No never, leave you or forsake you.
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- That's the essential message of christmas.
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- We're not alone in the world.
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- Jesus came to abraham, jacob, shadrach, meshach, and abednego
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- In pre-incarnate appearances.
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- But one day god will come again to this planet, but he was born
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- In that manger and he died on the cross, and he rose again.
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- He's always been there and he will always be there.
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- Jesus says: "i am with you to the end of the age."
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- So, yes, jesus appeared b.c.
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- And i wonder if there's somebody here right now listening to me
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- Or watching me or hearing me wherever you are, and you've
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- Been searching for god and he's here and he's ready
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- To come into your life.
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- You know, the holidays can be a hard time for a lot of people.
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- It can be a lonely time, it can be a depressing time.
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- Maybe they don't have family or maybe the holidays mark
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- The departure of a loved one that was with them last year
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- That is not with them this year, so there's a sadness attached.
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- So while everyone else is having a great time,
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- ♪ it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪
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- They're not feeling that way.
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- It's a depressing time for them.
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- But don't miss the essential message of christmas.
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- Christ was not born in a manger so we could go shopping
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- And spend half our life looking for a parking place at a mall.
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- Christ was not born so we could go to parties.
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- Christ was born so we'd realize
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- We don't have to be alone in life.
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- The message of christmas is you're not alone.
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- Emmanuel, god is with us, and god can be more than with you,
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- He can be in you.
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- A relationship with him, jesus who was born in the manger at
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- Bethlehem, and died in the cross of calvary, rose again from
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- The dead 3 days later and now he stands at the door of your life
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- And he knocks and he says if you'll hear his voice
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- And open the door, he'll come in.
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- Greg: hi, i'm greg laurie, i've got some good news for you.
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- God loves you, and god has a plan for your life.
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- Here's the problem: we're separated from god by our sin
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- Because we've all broken his commandments.
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- But the good news is that 2,000 years ago, god sent
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- His son, jesus christ, to die on the cross for your sin,
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- And then to rise again from the dead.
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- The same jesus who died and rose is alive and ready
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- To come into your life right now.
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- Would you like your sin forgiven?
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- Would you like to know that when you die you will go to heaven?
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- If so, pray this simple prayer with me right now.
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- Just say," lord jesus, i know i'm a sinner, but i believe
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- You're the savior who died on the cross for my sin.
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- I turn from my sin now, and i choose to follow you
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- From this moment forward."
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- Did you just pray that prayer with me?
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- If you did, god in heaven
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- Has heard you, and i wanna
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- Send you a new testament
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- To start reading.
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- Female announcer: jesus says that "where two or three
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- Are gathered in my name, there i am in the midst of them."
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- We are all different.
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- We have different interests, different personalities,
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- Different upbringings, and different ways we do life,
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- But here, we have a deep connection,
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- And you are welcome here.
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- This is harvest.
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