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Harvest with Pastor Greg Laurie | Greg Laurie - How To Divorce-Proof Your Marriage | May 28, 2025
- Greg laurie: the problem is we hold grudges
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- And we bring up stuff from a long time ago.
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- You're in a disagreement with your spouse and you say,
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- "well, i remember 20 years ago," wait, wait, what?
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- Stop with the "20 years ago."
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- Love keeps short accounts.
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- ♪ this is the day, the day where life begins ♪
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- ♪ this is the day, the day where life begins ♪♪
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- Greg: so i heard about a couple that was celebrating
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- Their 25th wedding anniversary.
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- Big event. friends and family were there.
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- Husband got in front of all of the folks and said to his wife,
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- "my dear wife, you've been such a great wife these 25 years and
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- To show you how much i love you, i wanna take you to australia
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- For our anniversary."
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- She was so excited.
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- She'd never been down under before.
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- She said, "australia, koala bears, kangaroos,
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- Shrimps on the barbie.
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- I can hardly wait. that's so great.
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- Man," she said to her husband, "if you're doing this
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- For our 25th anniversary, what will you do for our 50th?"
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- He said, "that's when i'll pick you up," he says.
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- It's not a good sign.
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- One of the richest men who ever lived,
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- J. paul getty, once made this statement:
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- "i would give my entire fortune for one happy marriage."
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- One happy marriage.
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- Is it actually possible?
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- I believe it is, if we do it god's way.
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- And i want to talk to you about
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- How to divorce-proof your marriage.
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- Now, this isn't foolproof.
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- There are exceptions, but overall, if we do what
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- God says in his word, you will have a long-lasting,
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- Happy and blessed marriage.
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- You see, after we walk down that aisle and say, "i do,"
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- There's a lot more to do.
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- If love is a dream, then marriage is the alarm clock.
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- And the real hard work of having a successful marriage begins.
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- And yes, it is work.
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- There's god's part and there's our part,
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- And it's sort of like a garden.
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- You know, if you want a garden to grow, you have to tend to it.
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- You have to weed it, you have to water it.
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- Same is true of marriage.
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- You could also liken it to your human body.
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- If you neglect your body, it'll break down.
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- Well, it's gonna break down, no matter what you do, but there
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- Are things you can do to be stronger and be healthier.
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- The same is true of marriage.
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- A well-known comedian once said, quote,
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- "the secret of a happy marriage remains a secret."
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- Is that true? i don't think it is.
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- I think it's right here in this scripture.
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- And there are threats against our marriages today,
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- And i'm going to identify some of them.
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- I certainly can't identify all of them.
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- But threats to our marriages.
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- The bible says it's the little foxes that spoil the vines.
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- Little things can become big things.
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- You think this won't become a problem.
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- This is what happened to eve in the garden of eden.
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- She engaged with the snake.
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- She entered into a conversation with the devil,
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- And ate of the forbidden fruit and shared it with adam
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- And he too ate of the forbidden fruit.
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- And all of the problems we have today stem
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- From that very bad decision.
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- So here is number one threat against your marriage:
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- Selfishness.
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- One word: selfishness.
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- If we were to sum up in one word what breaks most marriages
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- Apart, it would be this, because you walk into a marriage
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- Thinking that that person is going to meet all of your needs.
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- That person is, if there's a problem, is the one responsible.
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- Never you.
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- It's always them that is causing the problems.
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- Well, it's time to look in the mirror because
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- You're part of the problem as well.
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- James 4:2 says: "where do you think all these appalling wars
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- And quarrels come from?
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- Do you think they just happen?
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- Think again.
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- They come about because you want your own way,
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- And you fight for it deep inside yourselves."
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- That's it. i want my way.
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- I'm right, you're wrong.
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- That's how we see it.
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- We're not able to see the other person's point of view
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- And we enter into this conflict.
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- And we're such a self-absorbed culture today.
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- So let's think for a moment about the garden of eden.
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- So adam and eve eat of the forbidden fruit.
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- Sin came into the world.
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- Now here's part of what we call the curse.
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- God said in genesis 3:16 to eve, "your desire will be
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- For your husband and he will rule over you."
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- This is negative.
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- God is saying this is the ramification.
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- This is the result of your bad decision.
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- The word "desire" means to compel, urge,
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- Or seek control over.
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- So what god is saying is, "now, eve, from this moment forward,
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- You will have a sinful desire to control your husband.
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- You will want to dominate your husband."
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- And in the same way, he says to the husband,
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- "you will have a sinful desire to dominate the woman."
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- Neither is right.
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- We're to love one another, we're to put the needs of the other
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- First, we're to submit to one another in the reverence of god,
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- According to ephesians 5, but the nature that we have is women
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- Wanna dominate men, men want to control women,
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- So the battle of the sexes began.
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- It's all about self.
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- What's the antidote?
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- Do what god says.
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- Obey the word of god.
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- Ephesians 5:28: "so husbands are to love their wives
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- As their own bodies.
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- He that loves his wife loves himself."
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- Notice, it doesn't say husbands are to love their--
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- Themselves and then their wives.
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- It's assumed husbands love themselves, just like wives do.
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- We all love ourself.
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- So all paul is saying is, "hey, love your wife as much
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- As you already love yourself.
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- Love her as christ loves the church."
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- And what does that mean?
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- Husbands, it means you'd lay your life down for her.
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- What does that mean, specifically?
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- Philippians 2 says: "don't be selfish.
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- Don't live to make a good impression on others.
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- Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourself.
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- Don't think only of your own affairs,
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- Be interested in others as well."
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- But selfishness undermines so many marriages.
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- Number two, another threat against our marriage:
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- Communication breakdown.
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- Communication breakdown.
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- Do you ever text someone
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- And you don't hear from them for, like, a week?
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- And you're waiting for an answer.
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- Even worse, you text them and then you see
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- The little dot-dot-dot, dot-dot-dot, dot-dot-dot, stops.
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- Well, what was that all about?
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- You were going to send me a message and you decided not to?
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- But this happens in marriage.
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- We stop communicating with each other.
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- A survey was done among divorced couples.
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- They were asked why their marriage failed.
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- Eighty-six percent of them said, "deficient communication."
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- James 1:19 says, "let everyone be quick to listen,
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- Slow to speak, and slow to anger."
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- But instead, we do the opposite.
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- We're quick to anger and we're quick to speak,
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- And we're slow to listen.
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- Listen, if your spouse comes to you and says, "there's something
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- You're doing that i don't like," you may think it's ridiculous,
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- You may want to dismiss it, but if it matters to them,
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- It should matter to you, so you need to hear them out,
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- Try to see it from their point of view.
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- Maybe explain your position, and then work toward resolution.
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- Proverbs 18:13 says:
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- "only a fool answers a matter before he has heard it.
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- Avoid raising your voice.
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- If you feel anger bubbling up inside of you,
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- Sometimes you may need to walk away.
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- You may explode with rage and scream or do something else,
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- Even hit them and feel justified.
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- That's never justified.
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- And here's what the bible says.
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- Ephesians 4:31: "get rid of bitterness, rage, anger,
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- Harsh words, slander, all kinds of evil behavior.
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- Instead be kind to each other, tenderhearted, forgiving one
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- Another just as god through christ has forgiven you."
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- Ruth graham said, "a strong marriage is made up
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- Of two good forgivers."
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- The problem is we hold grudges and we bring up stuff
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- From a long time ago.
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- You're in a disagreement with your spouse and you say,
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- "well, i remember 20 years ago," wait, wait, what?
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- Stop with the "20 years ago."
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- Love keeps short accounts.
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- So when you fight or disagree,
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- You fight to resolve, not to win.
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- If you go into it to win, you've already lost.
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- And ephesians 4:26 says:
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- "don't let the sun go down on your anger."
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- Greg: hey, everybody, i'm here with my friend, tony clark,
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- From newport news, virginia, right?
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- Tony clark: yes, sir.
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- Greg: first of all, i like your hat.
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- Tony: oh, thank you. greg: that's a cool hat.
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- Now let me see if i wear the hat,
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- If i'll look as cool as you; can i try it?
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- I notice you have it sort of at an angle,
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- 'kay, so is this right?
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- Tony: you're gotta tilt it to the side.
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- Yeah, that's it. that is it.
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- I think it looks--i think that's good.
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- I think you ought to start wearing them.
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- Greg: yeah, i think it's better on you.
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- Okay, let's--let me ask you a quick question.
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- It has to be really a fast answer 'cause we used
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- All our time up with the hat.
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- What is the secret to a successful marriage?
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- Tell those people.
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- Tony: a secret to a successful marriage
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- Is making sure jesus is in the center of the marriage.
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- As you draw closer to jesus, you draw closer to one another.
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- Hands down.
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- Greg: great, now, how long have you been married?
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- Tony: thirty-three years.
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- Greg: he knows what he's talking about.
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- Greg: okay, number three, something that's a threat
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- To your marriage: adultery.
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- This is a big one.
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- This is a marriage killer, potentially.
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- Adultery.
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- It's so significant, it made it into god's top ten,
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- The ten commandments: "you shall not commit adultery."
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- Every one of us probably knows at least one person
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- Who has fallen into this sin.
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- Every one of us knows of a marriage that has come apart
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- Because of this sin.
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- Imagine if, in america, we just obeyed this single commandment,
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- How different things would be.
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- How many marriages would still be together because, as
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- I've said to you before, you can trace almost every social ill
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- And problem in america today to the breakdown of the family.
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- If we would just keep this one commandment,
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- But this is a real problem.
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- Unfaithfulness is one of the greatest threats
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- Against marriage today.
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- God warns us in the bible of the effect of adultery.
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- Solomon warned about going to the house of the prostitute
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- In proverbs 7.
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- Says: "listen to me, my sons.
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- Pay attention to what i'm saying.
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- Don't let your heart stray towards her.
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- Don't wander down her wayward path.
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- Her house is the road to the grave,
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- Her bedroom is the den of death," wow.
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- "road to the grave, bedroom of death.
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- And that's not just directed to men, but to women as well.
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- Now, jesus takes it to another level.
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- In the sermon on the mount, christ showed that
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- The heart of the matter is a matter of the heart.
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- And he says, "now, you have heard that it has been said,"
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- In matthew 5, "you shall not commit adultery, but i say unto
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- You if you even look at a woman with lust in your eyes you've
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- Already committed adultery with her in your heart."
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- Whoa, okay, that's getting pretty close to home.
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- Now, this word "look" doesn't just mean looking at a woman.
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- It's looking as in continual gazing with the desire
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- Of lusting after her, would be applied to a woman
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- Looking at a man in the same way.
- 00:12:36.054 --> 00:12:38.723
- Jesus is not speaking of unavoidable and unexpected
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- Exposure to sexual temptation.
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- He's talking about a person who intentionally puts himself
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- In the place of vulnerability and if they're exposed they give
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- The devil a foothold by letting it into their thought process.
- 00:12:54.172 --> 00:12:59.544
- It's been said you can't stop a bird from flying over your head,
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- But you can stop it from building a nest in your hair.
- 00:13:03.081 --> 00:13:06.684
- In my case, the bird better bring his own materials,
- 00:13:06.684 --> 00:13:10.088
- 'cause there's no hair here for a nest, but the idea is
- 00:13:10.088 --> 00:13:14.592
- I can't stop the thought from flying over,
- 00:13:14.592 --> 00:13:17.262
- But i can stop it from coming into my mind.
- 00:13:17.262 --> 00:13:20.165
- I have to let it in, i have to entertain it,
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- I have to welcome it.
- 00:13:22.700 --> 00:13:24.602
- Now the final serious threat to our marriage is divorce.
- 00:13:24.602 --> 00:13:29.073
- And that brings us to our text, matthew 19:
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- "the religious leaders came to jesus and they asked him,"
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- In matthew 19, verse 7,
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- "'why then did moses command to give a certificate of divorce
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- And to put her away?'
- 00:13:41.152 --> 00:13:43.121
- He said, 'moses, because of the hardness of your hearts,
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- Permitted you to divorce your wife;
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- But from the beginning it was not so.'
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- And i say to you, whoever divorces his wife,
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- Except for sexual immorality,
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- And marries another commits adultery.
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- And whoever marries her who is divorced, commits adultery.'"
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- It's interesting.
- 00:14:01.439 --> 00:14:02.874
- They say, "so jesus, why did moses
- 00:14:02.874 --> 00:14:05.043
- Command people to be divorced?"
- 00:14:05.043 --> 00:14:06.845
- Jesus said, "actually, he never did.
- 00:14:06.845 --> 00:14:08.880
- He permitted it."
- 00:14:08.880 --> 00:14:10.481
- And why did he permit it?
- 00:14:10.481 --> 00:14:12.050
- Because of the hardness of your heart.
- 00:14:12.050 --> 00:14:13.918
- See, sometimes people will say, "you know the bible is
- 00:14:13.918 --> 00:14:16.454
- Anti-woman, and the people who wrote it were misogynist
- 00:14:16.454 --> 00:14:20.658
- And chauvinistic and--" nothing could be further from the truth.
- 00:14:20.658 --> 00:14:24.629
- In jewish culture, and certainly roman culture,
- 00:14:24.629 --> 00:14:27.532
- A woman was not valued as she should be.
- 00:14:27.532 --> 00:14:31.369
- The bible exalts the woman to the position she should have
- 00:14:31.369 --> 00:14:34.772
- Always been in, in the first place, created and loved and--
- 00:14:34.772 --> 00:14:37.909
- By god himself.
- 00:14:37.909 --> 00:14:39.711
- But in this culture, a man can divorce his wife
- 00:14:39.711 --> 00:14:42.580
- For almost anything and cast her out on the street.
- 00:14:42.580 --> 00:14:46.251
- She'd have no source of income,
- 00:14:46.251 --> 00:14:47.952
- No way to make a living so jesus is saying,
- 00:14:47.952 --> 00:14:51.422
- "that's why it's allowed under certain circumstances."
- 00:14:51.422 --> 00:14:55.827
- When is divorce biblically allowable?
- 00:14:55.827 --> 00:15:00.298
- Number one, it's allowable when sexual immorality takes place.
- 00:15:00.298 --> 00:15:05.970
- Again, matthew 19:9: "if anyone divorces his wife, except for
- 00:15:05.970 --> 00:15:09.707
- Sexual immorality, and marries another he commits adultery."
- 00:15:09.707 --> 00:15:13.444
- So, if there's unfaithfulness, you technically,
- 00:15:13.444 --> 00:15:17.415
- According to jesus, have grounds for a divorce.
- 00:15:17.415 --> 00:15:20.585
- But let me add one other thing.
- 00:15:20.585 --> 00:15:22.987
- You also have grounds for forgiveness, don't you?
- 00:15:22.987 --> 00:15:25.390
- And i've seen marriages experience infidelity
- 00:15:25.390 --> 00:15:29.093
- And i've seen the marriages survive it.
- 00:15:29.093 --> 00:15:31.863
- It's not easy.
- 00:15:31.863 --> 00:15:33.364
- Trust is lost.
- 00:15:33.364 --> 00:15:35.300
- Takes a long time to regain again, but i've seen it happen.
- 00:15:35.300 --> 00:15:37.969
- I've also seen marriages devastated by infidelity and,
- 00:15:37.969 --> 00:15:42.140
- Especially if it's repeated infidelity on the part of
- 00:15:42.140 --> 00:15:45.977
- The man or the woman, it's a marriage killer for sure.
- 00:15:45.977 --> 00:15:50.682
- But let me offer a little hope.
- 00:15:50.682 --> 00:15:52.784
- My mom was married and divorced seven times and so i didn't have
- 00:15:52.784 --> 00:15:56.721
- A good example, but by god's grace, cathy and i have been
- 00:15:56.721 --> 00:16:00.291
- Married for almost 50 years now, so christ can break that sin.
- 00:16:00.291 --> 00:16:07.565
- Jesus can break a cycle of sin, because sometimes people say,
- 00:16:07.565 --> 00:16:10.768
- "well, divorce runs in my family."
- 00:16:10.768 --> 00:16:13.738
- And so that excuses you somehow.
- 00:16:13.738 --> 00:16:16.274
- Or "well, that's, you know, it's something beyond--
- 00:16:16.274 --> 00:16:18.743
- This is the way i'm wired.
- 00:16:18.743 --> 00:16:20.111
- We're all kind of angry people and we yell all the--"
- 00:16:20.111 --> 00:16:22.480
- No, that's just a way to rationalize bad behavior.
- 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:26.084
- When jesus enters the picture, everything changes.
- 00:16:26.084 --> 00:16:29.821
- And if it hasn't changed, has he really entered the picture?
- 00:16:29.821 --> 00:16:33.391
- The bible says: "if any man be in christ,
- 00:16:33.391 --> 00:16:35.793
- He is an altogether different kind of person.
- 00:16:35.793 --> 00:16:38.629
- Old things have passed away;
- 00:16:38.629 --> 00:16:40.565
- Behold, everything becomes fresh and new."
- 00:16:40.565 --> 00:16:44.502
- It rained last night, did you notice that?
- 00:16:44.502 --> 00:16:47.205
- We had a clap of thunder so loud,
- 00:16:47.205 --> 00:16:49.340
- I almost jumped out of my seat.
- 00:16:49.340 --> 00:16:51.576
- It felt like it happened right next to me, and everybody had
- 00:16:51.576 --> 00:16:55.179
- Their cars rained on, so it's the one time everyone finally
- 00:16:55.179 --> 00:16:59.650
- Washes their cars, right?
- 00:16:59.650 --> 00:17:01.786
- But i love when the rain is done and the sun comes out.
- 00:17:01.786 --> 00:17:06.924
- Everything is clean.
- 00:17:06.924 --> 00:17:08.659
- Maybe you might see a rainbow.
- 00:17:08.659 --> 00:17:10.194
- I love those.
- 00:17:10.194 --> 00:17:11.896
- And you know, you see all this rain and the storms
- 00:17:11.896 --> 00:17:14.665
- And you think, "oh, it's so awful," but god can work
- 00:17:14.665 --> 00:17:17.201
- And he can intervene and he can change the narrative.
- 00:17:17.201 --> 00:17:20.638
- So that's really if we want the narrative changed.
- 00:17:20.638 --> 00:17:23.941
- Here's the other reason god gives for divorce:
- 00:17:23.941 --> 00:17:26.711
- It's desertion.
- 00:17:26.711 --> 00:17:28.746
- Desertion.
- 00:17:28.746 --> 00:17:30.381
- 1 corinthians 7:13, paul says if a christian woman has a husband
- 00:17:30.381 --> 00:17:34.452
- Who's a non-believer and he's willing to continue
- 00:17:34.452 --> 00:17:36.954
- Living with her, she must not leave him.
- 00:17:36.954 --> 00:17:39.157
- Now we touched on this when we were in 1 peter 3
- 00:17:39.157 --> 00:17:41.559
- On how to get a new husband.
- 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:43.027
- Remember what peter said?
- 00:17:43.027 --> 00:17:45.296
- That the wife, who's a christian, if she's married
- 00:17:45.296 --> 00:17:47.565
- To a non-believer, should win him without a word
- 00:17:47.565 --> 00:17:50.468
- By the way that she lives, okay?
- 00:17:50.468 --> 00:17:53.171
- So the bible's very clear in pointing out if you're married
- 00:17:53.171 --> 00:17:56.274
- To a non-believer, you should not terminate the marriage
- 00:17:56.274 --> 00:17:59.777
- For that reason.
- 00:17:59.777 --> 00:18:01.546
- Now i don't know why you're married to a non-believer.
- 00:18:01.546 --> 00:18:04.315
- If you're not married at all, let me just say,
- 00:18:04.315 --> 00:18:06.317
- You want to marry a christian.
- 00:18:06.317 --> 00:18:09.353
- It's very important.
- 00:18:09.353 --> 00:18:11.189
- Marriage is hard enough, okay?
- 00:18:11.189 --> 00:18:13.724
- You don't wanna make it harder when you don't even
- 00:18:13.724 --> 00:18:15.993
- Believe the same way.
- 00:18:15.993 --> 00:18:17.829
- But maybe both of you were non-believers
- 00:18:17.829 --> 00:18:20.598
- When you got married and one of you became a christian.
- 00:18:20.598 --> 00:18:23.067
- Maybe you just said, "i don't care what the bible says,"
- 00:18:23.067 --> 00:18:25.336
- And you married a non-believer, and here you are and you're
- 00:18:25.336 --> 00:18:27.305
- Thinking, "i'm not so happy with this, and god spoke to me
- 00:18:27.305 --> 00:18:30.541
- The other day and said to me, 'dump your husband
- 00:18:30.541 --> 00:18:34.345
- Who's not a christian and marry that cute
- 00:18:34.345 --> 00:18:36.180
- Sensitive christian man you met at church.'
- 00:18:36.180 --> 00:18:38.983
- I heard god say this."
- 00:18:38.983 --> 00:18:41.586
- No, you did not.
- 00:18:41.586 --> 00:18:43.955
- Here's what god says.
- 00:18:43.955 --> 00:18:45.723
- I already read it to you.
- 00:18:45.723 --> 00:18:47.391
- If they wanna leave--or if they're a non-believer
- 00:18:47.391 --> 00:18:50.728
- And they're willing to live with you, don't leave them.
- 00:18:50.728 --> 00:18:53.865
- But then he goes on and says this in 1 corinthians 7:15:
- 00:18:53.865 --> 00:18:56.934
- "but if the husband or wife who is a christian
- 00:18:56.934 --> 00:18:59.604
- Insists on leaving, let them go.
- 00:18:59.604 --> 00:19:02.406
- In such cases, the christian husband or wife is not required
- 00:19:02.406 --> 00:19:05.843
- To stay with them, for god wants his children to live in peace."
- 00:19:05.843 --> 00:19:10.982
- So, if a non-believer leaves, and says, "i don't wanna be
- 00:19:10.982 --> 00:19:16.420
- Married to you anymore, i don't wanna live with you anymore.
- 00:19:16.420 --> 00:19:19.690
- I have a girlfriend," "i have a boyfriend," whatever,
- 00:19:19.690 --> 00:19:21.959
- "i'm out of here,"
- 00:19:21.959 --> 00:19:23.761
- You're no longer required to stay in that marriage.
- 00:19:23.761 --> 00:19:26.531
- You're free to remarry down the road.
- 00:19:26.531 --> 00:19:29.467
- You say, "well, what if they're a christian and they leave?"
- 00:19:29.467 --> 00:19:31.702
- Well, i would question if they're a christian,
- 00:19:31.702 --> 00:19:34.405
- If they would leave.
- 00:19:34.405 --> 00:19:35.973
- So i don't think the point is do they say they're a christian?
- 00:19:35.973 --> 00:19:38.476
- I think the big issue is did they leave you?
- 00:19:38.476 --> 00:19:41.112
- Did they abandon you?
- 00:19:41.112 --> 00:19:42.813
- Now, having said these things, there's so many complexities in
- 00:19:42.813 --> 00:19:45.950
- All of this stuff, 'cause some of you are thinking,
- 00:19:45.950 --> 00:19:47.885
- "yeah, but what about this and what about that?"
- 00:19:47.885 --> 00:19:49.420
- I can't deal with all of that.
- 00:19:49.420 --> 00:19:50.988
- You need biblical counseling and your situation
- 00:19:50.988 --> 00:19:54.025
- Needs to be looked at and see what the lord says,
- 00:19:54.025 --> 00:19:56.661
- 'cause sometimes there's a place for separation, not divorce.
- 00:19:56.661 --> 00:20:01.732
- Let's say you live in a home where there's an abusive spouse
- 00:20:01.732 --> 00:20:04.936
- And they hit, they get drunk,
- 00:20:04.936 --> 00:20:07.405
- They endanger you or your children.
- 00:20:07.405 --> 00:20:09.640
- "well, i guess god wants me to just stay here."
- 00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:11.742
- No, you are free to separate from that person.
- 00:20:11.742 --> 00:20:14.879
- If your life is in danger, aye, and challenge them
- 00:20:14.879 --> 00:20:19.283
- To get it together, and to get help and to change.
- 00:20:19.283 --> 00:20:23.321
- And so you need to keep yourself safe
- 00:20:23.321 --> 00:20:25.623
- And keep your children safe.
- 00:20:25.623 --> 00:20:27.725
- But having said that, the ultimate goal,
- 00:20:27.725 --> 00:20:31.862
- Even in separation, is reconciliation.
- 00:20:31.862 --> 00:20:35.399
- It's not like i'm taking a vacation from you 'cause you
- 00:20:35.399 --> 00:20:37.668
- Drive me crazy 'cause you don't put the, you know, cap back
- 00:20:37.668 --> 00:20:41.005
- On the toothpaste or what's the--it's more like, "hey,
- 00:20:41.005 --> 00:20:43.808
- We need time apart, and you need to get biblical counsel.
- 00:20:43.808 --> 00:20:47.144
- We can get it together so we can ultimately reconcile.
- 00:20:47.144 --> 00:20:50.348
- I find it interesting that there's no verse in the bible
- 00:20:50.348 --> 00:20:53.284
- That says, "also you can divorce
- 00:20:53.284 --> 00:20:55.386
- Because of irreconcilable differences."
- 00:20:55.386 --> 00:20:59.790
- And how many marriages have been dissolved
- 00:20:59.790 --> 00:21:01.859
- Because of "irreconcilable differences"?
- 00:21:01.859 --> 00:21:05.663
- Listen, i've told you this before.
- 00:21:05.663 --> 00:21:07.999
- I have had irreconcilable differences with my wife
- 00:21:07.999 --> 00:21:11.135
- For almost 50 years.
- 00:21:11.135 --> 00:21:13.170
- We're very different people, very different.
- 00:21:13.170 --> 00:21:17.308
- She's very neat, i'm kind of messy.
- 00:21:17.308 --> 00:21:20.578
- She's sometimes late, i'm often early.
- 00:21:20.578 --> 00:21:23.180
- She's cute and i'm fat.
- 00:21:23.180 --> 00:21:25.249
- It's irreconcilable.
- 00:21:25.249 --> 00:21:28.119
- No, but i'm kind of making light of it because, of course,
- 00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:30.688
- You're different.
- 00:21:30.688 --> 00:21:32.290
- It might have been that very difference
- 00:21:32.290 --> 00:21:34.058
- That drew you together.
- 00:21:34.058 --> 00:21:35.426
- Ever heard of opposites attracting?
- 00:21:35.426 --> 00:21:38.062
- So that strength that they bring is maybe a strength
- 00:21:38.062 --> 00:21:41.098
- You didn't have and vice versa, but this is what the bible says:
- 00:21:41.098 --> 00:21:44.835
- "but even if divorce happens, it doesn't mean there's no hope."
- 00:21:44.835 --> 00:21:49.874
- I received a letter from a listener to our radio broadcast
- 00:21:49.874 --> 00:21:52.610
- In new beginning.
- 00:21:52.610 --> 00:21:54.211
- And this lady writes, "dear greg,
- 00:21:54.211 --> 00:21:56.047
- I've been listening to your program for 15 years.
- 00:21:56.047 --> 00:21:58.582
- I was struggling with a marriage that was not going very well.
- 00:21:58.582 --> 00:22:01.786
- We'd been married for 25 years,
- 00:22:01.786 --> 00:22:03.821
- But my husband and i got a divorce.
- 00:22:03.821 --> 00:22:06.490
- However, as i was listening to your marriage series on air,
- 00:22:06.490 --> 00:22:10.494
- I was able to grow and be changed and i learned
- 00:22:10.494 --> 00:22:14.065
- To love my husband in a way i never knew was possible
- 00:22:14.065 --> 00:22:16.634
- And now we are married again."
- 00:22:16.634 --> 00:22:19.570
- Isn't that great?
- 00:22:19.570 --> 00:22:23.207
- She continues on: "for the past 5 years,
- 00:22:23.207 --> 00:22:25.910
- It's been such a blessing."
- 00:22:25.910 --> 00:22:28.679
- So divorce happens but here's a woman that remarried her husband
- 00:22:28.679 --> 00:22:33.451
- And it's better than ever.
- 00:22:33.451 --> 00:22:35.052
- We wanna divorce-proof our marriage.
- 00:22:35.052 --> 00:22:37.355
- How do we do that?
- 00:22:37.355 --> 00:22:38.923
- Here in california, we always have our predictable wildfires
- 00:22:38.923 --> 00:22:42.493
- In the summer, right?
- 00:22:42.493 --> 00:22:44.662
- And i remember a number of years ago, seeing a photo of a home
- 00:22:44.662 --> 00:22:49.300
- That was standing there and it was surrounded by all of these
- 00:22:49.300 --> 00:22:53.504
- Burned down homes, and i mean burned to their foundation.
- 00:22:53.504 --> 00:22:57.041
- Nothing left of these homes, and here stands this home still
- 00:22:57.041 --> 00:23:00.578
- Affected by some smoke damage, but the structure was fine.
- 00:23:00.578 --> 00:23:06.417
- And so, they did a little article about
- 00:23:06.417 --> 00:23:08.619
- Why did this home survive the wildfire?
- 00:23:08.619 --> 00:23:12.623
- They interviewed the owner of the home.
- 00:23:12.623 --> 00:23:14.658
- He said, "what did you do?"
- 00:23:14.658 --> 00:23:16.060
- He says, "well, i found out what was required
- 00:23:16.060 --> 00:23:18.796
- And went beyond it."
- 00:23:18.796 --> 00:23:20.731
- He did double-pane windows, extra thick stucco walls,
- 00:23:20.731 --> 00:23:24.402
- Sealed eaves, concrete tile roof, and abundant insulation.
- 00:23:24.402 --> 00:23:30.808
- So the firefighters went to that neighborhood and said,
- 00:23:30.808 --> 00:23:33.043
- "let's make a stand at this home.
- 00:23:33.043 --> 00:23:35.413
- We think it will withstand the fire."
- 00:23:35.413 --> 00:23:37.815
- I'm asking you to make a stand today for your marriage.
- 00:23:37.815 --> 00:23:41.419
- Only you can make it.
- 00:23:41.419 --> 00:23:43.320
- I can't make it for you, we can't make it for you.
- 00:23:43.320 --> 00:23:45.790
- Only you can stand up as a man, a woman, a husband or a wife,
- 00:23:45.790 --> 00:23:49.326
- And say, "as for me and my house, we will serve the lord.
- 00:23:49.326 --> 00:23:53.130
- It's not happening here.
- 00:23:53.130 --> 00:23:55.132
- This home is standing."
- 00:23:55.132 --> 00:23:59.470
- Infidelity is not coming into this home.
- 00:23:59.470 --> 00:24:03.541
- Divorce is not coming into this home.
- 00:24:03.541 --> 00:24:05.976
- You make that choice.
- 00:24:05.976 --> 00:24:12.550
- Greg: maybe god has spoken
- 00:24:16.153 --> 00:24:18.055
- To your heart and you have seen your need for jesus christ.
- 00:24:18.055 --> 00:24:22.960
- Jesus christ is the son of god who came from heaven
- 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:26.797
- To this earth.
- 00:24:26.797 --> 00:24:28.299
- He was born in a manger, he died on cross,
- 00:24:28.299 --> 00:24:31.669
- He rose again from the dead; why?
- 00:24:31.669 --> 00:24:33.938
- Because he loves you and he wants a relationship with you.
- 00:24:33.938 --> 00:24:37.575
- Listen, i'm not talking about religion.
- 00:24:37.575 --> 00:24:39.643
- I don't wanna be a religious person,
- 00:24:39.643 --> 00:24:41.645
- I don't think you wanna be one either,
- 00:24:41.645 --> 00:24:43.581
- I'm talking about relationship with god.
- 00:24:43.581 --> 00:24:46.917
- Jesus who died and rose again stands at the door of your life
- 00:24:46.917 --> 00:24:51.489
- And he knocks and he says, "if you'll hear his voice
- 00:24:51.489 --> 00:24:54.291
- And open the door, he will come in."
- 00:24:54.291 --> 00:24:56.494
- Question:
- 00:24:56.494 --> 00:24:57.995
- Have you asked jesus christ to come and live inside of you?
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- You might say, "well, i think so, i'm not sure."
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- Hey, if someone moved into your house in the middle
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- Of the night, do you think you would be aware of it?
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- I'm sure you would.
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- And in the same way, if christ has come to live inside of you,
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- You will know, and if you don't know,
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- Maybe he has not come in yet, he's just a prayer away.
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- All you need to do is say, "jesus, i want this relationship
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- With you, i want you to forgive me of my sin,
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- I wanna go to heaven when i die."
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- Would you like to do that?
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- Would you like christ to come into your life?
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- If so, why don't you just pray the simple prayer with me.
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- You can pray it out loud or you can pray it in the quietness
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- Of your heart.
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- But this is a prayer where you're asking jesus christ
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- To be your savior and lord, pray this with me now.
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- "lord jesus, i know that i'm a sinner,
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- But i know that you're the savior.
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- Who died on the cross for my sin and rose again from the dead.
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- Now come into my life.
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- I choose to follow you from this moment forward.
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- Thank you for hearing this prayer
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- And answering this prayer.
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- In jesus's name, amen."
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- Did you just pray that prayer with me?
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- If so, i want you to know in the authority of scripture
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- That christ himself has come to live inside of you.
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- And i would love to send to you, at no charge,
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- "the new believer's bible."
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- It's a very friendly translation of the new testament
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- You'll find very understandable, and it's filled with hundreds
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- Of notes that i wrote that will encourage you
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- In this commitment you've just made to follow jesus.
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- And let me be the first to say to you, "congratulations,
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- And welcome to the family of god."
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- Greg: greg laurie here.
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- You know, at harvest ministries we're committing to reaching
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- Unexpected people in unexpected places with an
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- Unexpected message.
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- And thanks to your financial support, we've been able to
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- Touch people all over the world with the hope of jesus christ.
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- Together we've been able to minister to so many people
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- Devastated by the fires in lahaina on the island of maui.
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- And also, your support has helped us partner to bring
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- Medical help in the ongoing conflict in israel.
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- So i'm asking you today to continue to support this
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- Ministry so we can do everything possible to fulfill the
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- Great commission.
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- Let's do this together, and let me say in advance,
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- Thank you and god bless you.
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