John Bradshaw - Overcoming Obesity

December 1, 2024 | S1:E17159

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It Is Written with John Bradshaw | John Bradshaw - Overcoming Obesity | December 1, 2024

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>>john bradshaw: this is it is written.
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I'm john bradshaw. thanks for joining me today.
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You don't have to go too terribly far,
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Read too many web pages or open too many newspapers
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To discover that health care is a major issue
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In these united states and all around the world.
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Major health care challenges are affecting
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Millions and millions of people today.
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And, remarkably,
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There are often some very simple things that you can do
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To minimize your risk or to get out
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From under that health burden.
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The bible is a book that encourages us
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To take our health seriously.
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The bible tells us that our bodies
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Are the temple of the holy spirit.
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Jesus came into this world to give us life more abundantly.
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Back in the old testament, god said,
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"i am the lord who healeth thee."
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Well, we're going to talk about a health subject
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That relates to just about all of us,
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And my guest today is a good friend,
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Dr. david derose from compasshealth consulting.
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Dr. derose, thanks for joining me.
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>>dr. david derose: great to be with you, john.
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>>john: this is not our first discussion together,
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But this is the first time we've discussed here
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The subject of obesity.
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>>dr. derose: extremely important subject.
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Some three-quarters of americans,
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And many people throughout the world,
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Impacted by this disorder.
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And what's interesting to me, though, john--
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We throw out this figure, three-quarters--
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I mean, that's not just obesity, medically speaking;
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It's also overweight.
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But the problem is something that is getting
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So much attention because it's affecting our youth.
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Something like, uh, 1 in 5 youth
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Now meeting the definitions for being significantly overweight.
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>>john: so there's overweight, and there's obesity.
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When does overweight become obesity?
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What's the threshold?
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>>dr. derose: well, you know, we use numbers
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Based on body mass index, which is, you know,
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Based on kilograms per meter squared,
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And a lot of people, you know, their eyes kind of glaze over.
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But the simple point i like to make to people, john, is this.
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You know, we're speaking from a biblical perspective.
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The first thing i like people to know is, you know what,
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We can come to jesus just as we are.
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>>john: that's right.
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>>dr. derose: jesus is not saying, you know,
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Once you lose enough weight,
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Then you're good enough to come to me.
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He says, "whosoever will take of the water of life freely."
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And so that encourages me,
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As we're coming from a biblical perspective.
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>>john: now, uh, we're going to have to talk about
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Some pretty obvious things.
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Uh, if someone is obese, what they can do about it.
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But let's talk about some of the causes for obesity.
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Perhaps they're obvious.
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But let's walk through some of them anyway.
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>>dr. derose: well, let's talk about the ones that often
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Don't come onto the radar screen.
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>>john: okay.
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>>dr. derose: first of all, there are early life history
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Factors that affect our weight.
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Some people in the womb were exposed to stresses
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That predisposed them to high blood pressure
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Or to diabetes or to obesity.
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Maybe in early life-- one, 2 years of age--
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Your feeding practices, not of your own choosing,
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Were such that it primed you with more fat cells,
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So it's easier for you to be obese.
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Hormonal factors can affect you.
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There are actually metabolic hormonal causes.
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One of the classic ones is cushing's disorder,
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Or cushing's disease or cushing's syndrome,
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That actually can cause you to put on excess weight,
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Even if you're doing everything right.
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And so here at the very beginning,
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I want to tell people you can't just look at someone and say,
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"oh, you, you know, you didn't listen to it is written;
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You didn't listen to dr. derose and john bradshaw.
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Otherwise you wouldn't have this problem."
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>>john: we're going to do our best to talk about this
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Respectfully and in a nonjudgmental way.
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And i think, i hope, we're going to talk about this redemptively.
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>>dr. derose: most definitely.
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>>john: what can someone do?
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We don't need to point the finger and be critical,
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But we do want to help people who want to be helped,
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Or will help themselves,
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Or receive the help that comes from god.
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So where do we begin with this?
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>>dr. derose: the premise i take, john,
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Is in the very beginning, when god created us,
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He knew what kind of environment,
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What kind of setting we needed to be in to live for eternity.
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That was god's original intention.
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So although we're not going to live eternally
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On our own devices, god still, in the very beginning,
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Gives us clues about what the ideal diet,
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What the ideal activity level, other elements in lifestyle
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That can actually help us to avoid obesity,
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At least to a large extent.
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>>john: you mentioned a moment ago that the challenge
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That we're seeing with kids who are overweight--
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That is on the rise, is it?
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>>dr. derose: most definitely.
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>>john: what do we put that down to?
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>>dr. derose: well, there's a lot.
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I mean, there's studies showing that the more time
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We spend in front of a television--i hate to say it--
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But even it is written.
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If someone is just watching it is written nonstop,
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They, the research actually suggests it's not just sitting
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In front of the tv and not doing activity that's a problem,
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But it's also the commercials and the other messages.
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So it is written gets, you know, the green light on that basis.
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>>john: oh, i'm glad to know. all right. all right.
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>>dr. derose: but we're spending far too much time
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Doing inactive activities.
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Our kids are being pulled away from physical activity,
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And that's a huge determinant of how much we weigh.
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>>john: surely it's true-- i have not read the study;
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I didn't write the study-- but my, i have a hunch that, um,
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Everybody's connected to the internet;
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Everybody has a device;
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There's so much you can do online.
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You can explore the world, connect with people,
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Play games, veg out.
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Before, to get your entertainment,
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You had to run outside and play with your friends.
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Now you can sit in front of a screen.
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That's just true, isn't it?
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>>dr. derose: it just is true,
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And it is something that is contributing
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To the obesity epidemic.
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>>john: what can we do about that?
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>>dr. derose: basically, it's turning back the clock.
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It's, uh, not having so much screen time.
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It's parents telling their kids,
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You know, here are some limits on the television,
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On the electronic devices,
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And helping to do activity with them.
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There's nothing as powerful as what a parent models
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In his or her life.
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>>john: okay, so, now that we're adults,
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What can we do to begin to turn this back?
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Let's just start scratching the surface
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And come back to this in a moment.
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What can we do?
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>>dr. derose: let's start with a simple one,
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And i say it's simple because i've seen my own patients do it.
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I've got a patient in my practice right now.
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He lost 60 pounds over the course of probably six months.
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I said to him, "what did you do?"
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One simple change.
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>>john: what was that?
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>>dr. derose: he got rid of the sugar-sweetened beverages,
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And he's drinking primarily water.
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Now, he's a big guy.
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>>john: i have a friend-- i can tell you this--
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Who lost 130 pounds.
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He was a big guy, too, big, tall guy.
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And, uh, i asked him, same question, "what did you do?"
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He said, "i used to carry soda with me everywhere i went.
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I got rid of it."
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Never realized quite how much he was drinking.
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And that was the thing that really,
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The, the primary component of him losing 130 pounds.
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>>dr. derose: isn't that amazing?
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>>john: yeah, it's amazing.
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>>dr. derose: but many, many of my colleagues
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Have told me the same thing, just that simple change:
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Go with the water instead of the caloric beverages.
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>>john: and that is a simple change.
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>>dr. derose: it is.
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>>john: okay, there are other simple changes, many of them.
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We want to get at this thing, obesity,
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And then we're going to turn it around and make
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Some spiritual parallels that will bless you in big ways.
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The very best for us.
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But at times that can be a challenge.
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What do you do about obesity?
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How do you get your weight to where you want it to be,
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Or maybe where god wants it to be,
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>>john bradshaw: thanks for joining me today
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On it is written.
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I'm john bradshaw.
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My guest today is dr. david derose
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Of compasshealth consulting.
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Dr. derose, as we talk about obesity today,
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I've got a question because, um...
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I have a challenge with my belt.
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>>dr. david derose: hmm.
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>>john: my belt.
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And with a couple of pairs of pants.
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They used to give me no trouble at all,
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And now i find they protest more than they used to
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When i put them on.
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I don't think i'm doing much that's very different
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To what i used to do, except, of course,
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When i was a kid, i was super active,
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And now i'm a little less active.
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How much does gaining weight
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Have to do with the natural aging process?
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>>dr. derose: in medical circles, the million-dollar word
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That is sometimes discussed is called "sarcopenia."
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And in, uh, simple language, it means, as we get older,
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We tend to lose muscle mass.
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So even if a person weighs the same at 60
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As they did when they were 30, the odds are,
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Unless they've been very deliberate
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With a fitness program, they've got less muscle mass.
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And here's where the rubber meets the road
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In the discussion of obesity.
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It's muscle mass, lean body mass,
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That drives metabolism.
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So as i lose that muscle mass, my metabolism is slowing down.
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So it's not just purely a function of age,
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But age does tend to go along with a slowing of metabolism
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And a decrease in lean body mass.
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>>john: unfortunately, i'm, uh, i'm seeing that.
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And so, so what that means is-- and most people are seeing that
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Because most people weigh too much.
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What that means is,
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We have to be intentional about this, don't we?
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>>dr. derose: it's so fascinating to me, john,
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That many times we take things for granted
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Until they get out of hand.
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It's sometimes the diagnosis of high blood pressure,
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A diabetes diagnosis,
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With so many of these chronic diseases
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Linked to gaining weight,
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And it doesn't have to be a huge amount.
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>>john: how much?
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>>dr. derose: i mean, even losing 5 percent
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Of one's weight can make a measurable difference
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In these metabolic diseases.
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>>john: five percent.
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So for a lot of people who are overweight,
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That'd just be 10 pounds.
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>>dr. derose: that's right.
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So someone who weighs in at 200,
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Dropping 10 pounds can make a significant difference.
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>>john: oh, no kidding? that's all?
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>>dr. derose: that's right.
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>>john: okay, so let's talk about that.
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Someone wants to drop 10 pounds. what should they do?
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>>dr. derose: in the beginning, in genesis chapter 1,
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God gave adam and eve a diet that was wholly plant-based.
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Those plant foods are loaded with fiber and water.
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So eating more of those whole plant foods
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Is going to fill me up,
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Going to satisfy me with much less calories.
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>>john: okay, so that's a simple place to start,
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Although for some people,
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They can't imagine making those kinds of changes.
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Do you have to change all at once,
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Or can you ease into this gradually?
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How do you go about changing what you eat?
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>>dr. derose: the idea is just start doing something, okay?
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So have one meatless day a week.
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Have one meatless meal a week, if that's novel for you.
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And start experimenting more with beans and whole grain.
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>>john: how quickly--you mentioned someone earlier,
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60 pounds in six months--
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If someone gives themself to some type of lifestyle change--
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And there's got to be a variance here--
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How quickly is it reasonable to assume a person
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Can see themselves losing weight?
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>>dr. derose: well, i've worked with intensive
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Lifestyle change programs.
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We'd have people come in for two to three weeks
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At a live-in facility,
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And we would typically see weight loss in the range
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Of 4-5 percent over that three-week time period.
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So a 200-pound person would drop 10 pounds over that,
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Over the course of just two or three weeks.
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So, again, it's attainable with a,
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And that's a very deliberate program.
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And, uh, you know, we're helping them exercise,
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We're helping them eat right; they're more active;
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They're removed from their stressors.
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Because stress and those stress hormones--
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Actually, by the way, they're the same hormones
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That are involved in cushing's syndrome.
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That syndrome that causes obesity?
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You ramp up your stress hormone levels,
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And you're moving yourself closer--
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I mean, i'm using a little bit of poetic license here--
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But closer to a more cushingoid state.
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>>john: so do something about what you drink.
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Watch what you eat.
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Uh, certainly, you've got to get moving
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And, and start burning some calories and be mobile.
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But let me ask you this question:
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Is there an unhealthy way to go about losing weight?
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What are some things that people should not do?
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>>dr. derose: i recommend that people make lifestyle changes
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That they're going to stick with for life.
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Don't go on these crash diets
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Because they're really not sustainable.
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And don't set yourself up for failure by,
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By setting some kind of a goal that's totally unrealistic.
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When i was running a hospital-based
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Weight-loss program, i would do a history.
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I'd ask a person,
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"well, what did you weigh when you were, you know, 15?"
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If a person told me they weighed 400 when they were 15,
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And they're setting a weight loss goal of 120,
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I'm thinking, you know what?
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At 600 pounds, this is not really likely to be attainable.
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Set the goals too high, and even if you make a lot of progress,
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You're going to throw in the towel because you think,
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Hey, i could never weigh 120 like my next-door neighbor.
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>>john: you mentioned the fad diets.
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They're not helpful, are they?
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>>dr. derose: they're generally not helpful at all.
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Now, some people say, "well, but, you know,
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It motivated me to do this."
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But the problem is when you get on a diet
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That causes rapid weight loss, you lose muscle mass as well,
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And we already talked about how that drives metabolism.
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So it makes it so easy when you go back
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To eating your old way of eating.
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Now your metabolism's slower,
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And you actually put on more weight than you originally lost.
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>>john: you mentioned, i think, a key thing: lifestyle change.
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>>dr. derose: huge.
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>>john: yeah, you can go on a six-week diet
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Or a six-month diet and make a change,
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But you're going to go back to what you were before,
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And what you were before got you to where you didn't want to be.
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So it's really important to keep in mind,
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Isn't it, the long haul?
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What changes can i adopt that i can stick with,
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That will continue to provide benefit?
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>>dr. derose: it's really important.
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And when i work closely with people, i say,
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"look at those things"--
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If we want to just use diet as an example--
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"look at the problem foods.
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What things do you have trouble
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Controlling your consumption of?"
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Believe it or not, the best strategy is the same strategy
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We give the alcoholic or the nicotine addict.
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We say, "leave that food out completely.
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Leave it out completely!"
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You know, they say, "it's my favorite food!"
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But that is the path to success if you have
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An addictive relationship with a certain food.
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>>john: the wonderful thing about attacking
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A diet-related issue is there's so much to eat.
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And if you, if you don't, if someone tells you,
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"lay off the m&ms,"
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Man, you could eat blueberries or carrot sticks.
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I know that didn't excite you, the carrot sticks.
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But you could, you could find all kinds of fruit,
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Your favorite fruit.
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You can find--
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Anyhow, there are lots of good alternatives, aren't there?
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>>dr. derose: there are, and the good news, john,
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Is god has created us with the ability to develop
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New enjoyments.
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We make a clean break with those things that are harmful.
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We can develop new enjoyments
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For the blueberries and the carrots.
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And i think it's so interesting, when god speaks,
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Typically--look at the ten commandments.
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He didn't say cut back on your stealing;
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Do a little bit less in the way of extra-marital relations,
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Right?
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>>john: right.
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>>dr. derose: clear-cut guidelines.
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Those are the most powerful when it comes to behavior change.
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>>john: the fact of the matter is that one's diet
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Or one's lack of following good health principles
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Ends up with obesity,
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Which will often just drag a person to an early grave.
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>>dr. derose: that's right.
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>>john: so one's motivation to want to make these changes
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Should be really pretty high
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Because the, not making the changes--disaster.
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Making the changes-- fantastic benefits.
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Fantastic benefits,
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Including a clearer mind that will more keenly hear
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The voice of god and discern the will of god.
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We'll discuss that more in just a moment.
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>>john bradshaw: thanks for joining me today
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On it is written.
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My guest is dr. david derose from compasshealth consulting.
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Dr. derose, as we discuss obesity,
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We're discussing, frankly, we're discussing a runaway train
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Because the problem has just got out of hand
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In the western world.
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That's true, isn't it?
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>>dr. david derose: it really is, and, you know, john,
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As we speak about the spiritual impact
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And the ministry impact, one of the sobering statistics is,
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If a person is overweight and has diabetes,
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That can increase their risk of dementia up to fourfold.
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So we're talking about things that not only
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Cut our life short,
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But they definitely impact our relationship
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With god and with other people.
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>>john: uh, we talked about diet,
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Making good choices with what you eat, what you drink.
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Uh, are there any other things
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That people ought to be thinking about?
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>>dr. derose: well, i would say have an accountability partner.
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>>john: okay.
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>>dr. derose: i mean, it could be a spouse,
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Could be a close friend, could be a church group.
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Because what we find about behaviors
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Is if you have a supportive environment,
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It's powerful.
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Fascinating study in one of the science journals.
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This is a family of journals, the science family of journals.
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The comment of the authors was that basically
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Who we keep company with is impacting our risk of obesity.
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>>john: one thing that i find fascinating
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Is that sugar consumption is linked to obesity.
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There's sugar in everything.
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Do you think people know,
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Even when they eat health foods,
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They're often eating way too much sugar?
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>>dr. derose: yeah, it's a sad commentary.
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I tell people when they look at those carbohydrate-rich foods,
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Shoot for one fifth of the calories of,
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From carbohydrates as being from simple sugars.
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So you're picking that granola because you think it's healthy,
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But that granola may have 50 percent
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Of its carbohydrate calories as simple sugars,
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Simple carbohydrates.
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>>john: found an interesting thing.
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Somebody gave me a snack at christmas,
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You know, as, as you'll do around the office.
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And it was a, it was a sugary snack.
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And i had this sugary snack food in my hand.
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I looked at the sugar content.
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My wife had a granola bar in her hand.
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I said, "do something for me.
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Look at the sugar content in that granola bar."
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What i had was obviously not a health food.
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What she had is taken to be a health food.
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It had more than double the sugar in the granola bar
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Than i had in the sugary snack food that somebody had given me.
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>>dr. derose: it is startling.
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And if you don't read labels, you'll get in trouble.
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And i've seen this happen with so many of the dessert options.
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You know, there's a low-fat dessert.
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You look at it; it's got twice the calories from sugar in it.
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>>john: mm, and calories from sugar is a real problem?
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>>dr. derose: it is, as are the problems from,
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You know, with fat calories.
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>>john: in most cases, not all, but in most cases
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We are dealing with a preventable health care crisis.
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>>dr. derose: in most cases, you're exactly right.
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And a person, again, doesn't have to reach some ideal number,
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But if they can trim down, adopt healthier behaviors,
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Their weight will come down,
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They'll feel better, they'll look better,
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And their ministry will be enhanced.
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You know, one paraphrase of a famous new testament text is,
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"don't let the world press you into its mold."
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And, uh, "be not conformed to this world."
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>>john: yeah.
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>>dr. derose: but, john, it's so interesting.
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You're right; it's often we slip into these habits.
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But it's being deliberate. it's refocusing our lifestyle.
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That's really where it starts.
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>>john: yeah, for sure. okay, now let's talk about this.
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You eat too much; you, there ends up being too much of you.
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What about people who, uh, consume the bible,
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Uh, read spiritual books, attend worship services?
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They, they receive, receive, receive, but don't give.
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I've heard of spiritual obesity being referred to,
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Where you consume and consume and consume.
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God wants for his children to be not just consumers
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Of spiritual things, but sharers, producers.
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Discuss that with me as a minister of the gospel.
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>>dr. derose: no, it's a great analogy,
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Because jesus, if you wanted to summarize
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His great commission in one word,
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The word is "go."
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And so it's, what we find in the obesity realm is true:
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It's not just the diet, but it's the activity.
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It's the going.
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And it's so true in the spiritual realm, john.
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You and i have seen it.
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You can have this lethargy, really,
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That comes over a person who just is so focused on
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"what can i get out of the bible?"
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And, in fact, their spiritual life suffers.
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They can be going to church meetings.
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They can be watching all the it is written programs.
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But it's not at the spiritual level where they could be
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Because they're not sharing.
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>>john: paul told timothy to learn these things
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And then teach them to others, so that they can teach others.
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>>dr. derose: that's right.
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>>john: yeah. so what would you say to that person who,
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Who maybe--and there's a, there's a massive amount
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Of people who've never shared their faith.
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Never.
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Never opened up the pages of the bible with somebody,
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Never witnessed,
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Never invited someone to a, a church or religious service.
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How do we help those people to become spiritually active
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Rather than spiritually obese?
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>>dr. derose: i think it begins with recognizing
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Jesus' call for each one of us.
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We're all called to be disciple-makers.
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When we recognize that, it should change our prayer life.
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Lord, how do you want me to fulfill that calling today?
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Give me an opportunity.
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Show me someone that i can encourage,
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Someone that i can share with.
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>>john: i want to read that passage that you mentioned
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Because it's just, it's just so important.
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In matthew chapter 28, the great commission,
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At the end of the chapter:
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"jesus came and spoke to them, saying,
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'all authority has been given to me in heaven and on earth.'"
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He said, "'go therefore.'"
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Go. you can't go and be inactive.
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"'and make disciples of all nations,
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Baptizing them in the name of the father
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And of the son and of the holy spirit,
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Teaching them to observe all things
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That i have commanded you.'"
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And then jesus promises us his presence with us.
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God has commissioned every one of us to be a disciple-maker.
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>>dr. derose: that's right.
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>>john: and perhaps we are gifted in various ways,
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And it seems to come more naturally to some
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Than to others.
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But you can't say,
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"oh, sharing my faith is not my spiritual gift."
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There's nothing to hide behind here.
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God brings us into contact with people.
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If we're prayerful and we're on the lookout,
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We can find people to share our faith with.
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And that's just good for us on a spiritual level.
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Not just good for them, but good for us.
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>>dr. derose: it is, and the way this all comes full circle
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Is pray for someone who has needs like yours.
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If you're trying to lose weight,
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Pray that god will bring you into contact
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With someone else who needs to trim down,
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And maybe that's a person not of your faith.
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Maybe they don't know what you know spiritually.
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But as you work together on your health,
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It opens up doors for you to share your faith.
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>>john: doing something about destructive lifestyle habits
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Is an insurmountable problem for many people.
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However, here's what we remember.
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Jesus said, "i am with you always."
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Paul wrote,
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"i can do all things through christ who strengthens me."
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And he wrote in the same chapter, philippians chapter 4,
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"my god shall supply all your need
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According to his riches in glory by christ jesus."
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So we don't want to be talking about righteousness by works
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Or health by works.
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Everything we do we want to do in association
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And cooperation with god,
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Who blesses you, who, who dwells in you,
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And will work in you
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"both to will and to do for his good pleasure."
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So we would encourage you today: take hold of the hand of god.
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If you're looking at losing some pounds,
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If you're looking at getting active,
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If you're dealing with a lifestyle condition
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That you know could be remedied or reversed,
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Simply by making some simple changes,
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If you've never been able to make them,
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You can go to god in prayer and say,
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"this is what i need.
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I am willing. work in my life."
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And jesus says, "ask and it shall be given.
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Seek and you shall find."
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So, if you have the knowledge in your head,
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Christ in your heart,
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It seems to me like you've got everything you need.
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>>dr. derose: you do, and, uh, all his biddings are enablings.
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God will give you the power to make the changes
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He impresses you to make.
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>>john: we both know that god wants the very best for us.
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But at times that can be a challenge.
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What do you do about obesity?
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How do you get your weight to where you want it to be,
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Or maybe where god wants it to be,
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And keep it there?
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>>john: thank you for remembering that it is written
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>>john bradshaw: dr. david derose,
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Thanks for joining me today.
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This has been fun. i appreciate it.
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>>dr. david derose: been great to be with you, john.
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>>john: i'm thankful for the practical advice
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That you're giving people.
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And, uh, just quickly, one, one or two words,
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What would you say to that person
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Wanting to do something about obesity?
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>>dr. derose: go for it.
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>>john: go for it. go for it.
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Well, let's pray together. can we do that?
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Let's pray now.
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Our father in heaven,
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We thank you that in jesus we can go for it,
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Knowing that you are with us.
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You haven't called us to fail.
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You haven't called us to stumble.
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You've called us to victory and success and deliverance.
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Lord, i know that you want to dwell in us.
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We are, our bodies are the temple of your holy spirit.
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So come, father, and bring your holy spirit's presence.
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Uh, if we're weak, seems to me that's okay
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Because you told paul that your strength
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Is made perfect in weakness.
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Unite our frailty to your might, our weakness to your strength,
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Our failure to your success.
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And in jesus allow us to be delivered
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From all the things that you know
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Are harmful to us physically and spiritually.
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We thank you today, and we pray in jesus' name.
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Amen.
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Thanks so much for joining me today.
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I'm looking forward to seeing you again next time.
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Until then, remember:
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"it is written, 'man shall not live by bread alone,
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But by every word that proceeds from the mouth of god.'"
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♪[theme music]♪
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John Bradshaw - Overcoming Obesity

December 1, 2024 | S1:E17159

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