Joseph Prince - Have We Replaced Sonship With Discipleship?

November 19, 2025 | 29:45

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Joseph Prince | Joseph Prince - Have We Replaced Sonship With Discipleship? | November 19, 2025
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  • Joseph prince: i've heard people say,
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  • To be a christian is not enough.
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  • You must be a disciple.
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  • We have just downgraded what was a revelation
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  • Peculiar to the new covenant.
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  • It's greater.
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  • Because you say, i'm a follower of jesus,
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  • I'm a disciple.
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  • You are just christians, all of you.
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  • You are sons of god, yes.
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  • But i'm more than a son, i'm a disciple.
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  • Like you have achieved something greater.
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  • No, you are regressing.
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  • And if you don't watch it, you'll catch
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  • The spirit of discipling and lose the spirit of sonship.
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  • Sonship is greater.
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  • The greater has come.
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  • Are you listening?
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  • All the bible is for us.
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  • I repeat, all the bible is for us.
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  • You want to quote me, quote me saying that?
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  • Every scripture is god-breathed.
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  • So here, the disciples in the book of acts,
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  • And by the way,
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  • The book of acts is the one
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  • That ends the word "disciples."
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  • You don't find them anymore.
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  • Does that mean there's no more students?
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  • No, we, like i said, we continue to be students.
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  • It's a dignity to be a son of god,
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  • I'm telling you, hallelujah.
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  • Announcer: what is grace?
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  • What if that's not the right question?
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  • What if grace is not a what, but a who,
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  • With a heartbeat, a voice, and a face?
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  • In today's message, joseph prince takes us
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  • Into the scriptures to encounter
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  • The lovely person of grace, jesus himself.
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  • Grace. it is not just a teaching.
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  • It is the teacher.
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  • It is not just a subject.
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  • It is our savior.
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  • To truly understand grace is to truly know jesus.
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  • In his book, "glorious grace," joseph invites you
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  • And now, here's pastor joseph prince
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  • With today's program.
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  • Joseph prince: jesus said in the great commission,
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  • "go into all the world."
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  • Now many of your bibles says, "make disciples of all nations."
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  • But actually the word down there is "make students."
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  • Make students of all nations.
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  • Make disciple--
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  • The word "disciple," okay, learn this.
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  • The word "disciple," people, is from the greek, mathetes.
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  • Mathetes. say, "mathetes."
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  • Congregation: mathetes.
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  • Joseph prince: okay, mathetes.
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  • Now in the hebrew, it is talmud.
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  • Say talmud.
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  • Talmud from the hebrew, limmud.
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  • There's a, you know, the hebrew alphabet a to z,
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  • There's a letter there called lamed.
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  • Lamed is actually to teach.
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  • That's where you get the word "disciple."
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  • Limmud.
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  • So a disciple is nothing more than someone who is learning.
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  • Okay, someone who is learning.
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  • The unfortunate thing today is that disciples,
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  • Discipleship programs and all that are portrayed
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  • As if it's something that makes you
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  • A superior christian, makes you a greater christian
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  • Than what you really are.
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  • Actually, it's nothing more than always be a learner.
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  • Always be a student of god's grace, amen.
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  • Long before there were christians,
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  • There were disciples.
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  • You find them in matthew, mark, luke, and john.
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  • Jesus's disciples were disciples
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  • Long before they were christians,
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  • Long before they were called new creations.
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  • Then something interesting happened.
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  • I challenge you to look in the scriptures.
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  • Look at all the spirit-inspired epistles of christ
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  • Through the apostle paul.
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  • All the letters to the church through peter, james, paul.
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  • Paul wrote most of it, jude, john.
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  • In all the spirit-inspired letters to the church
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  • After the book of acts,
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  • You don't find one single mention of disciples anymore.
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  • Does that mean we stop learning?
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  • No, but why did the holy spirit choose not to use that word?
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  • Because the holy spirit knows.
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  • We tend to put these kind of wrong ideas
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  • About being a student.
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  • We complicate it as it's something
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  • You have to do to progress further.
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  • Rather than, you know, and that's why
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  • The word "disciple" does not appear
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  • Because the holy spirit has replaced it with sonship.
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  • With sonship.
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  • You are now a son and daughter of god.
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  • Now what's the difference?
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  • Disciple, you can be a disciple, but it's not family.
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  • In fact, in those days, the rabbi is,
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  • Whichever rabbi it is, gamaliel and all that.
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  • To be a disciple, you have to renounce your family,
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  • You have to renounce your natural occupation,
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  • Whatever, and come and follow him.
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  • Now you are a follower of gamaliel.
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  • You know, now a follower of gamaliel.
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  • That's why i don't like to say, okay,
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  • Pastor mark is my disciple.
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  • I don't like to say pastor lawrence is my disciple.
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  • No, no, no.
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  • They are sons of god.
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  • But are they disciples in the sense
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  • Of the greek word, "mathetes"?
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  • Yes, they are students of god's grace.
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  • You look at the king james bible.
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  • It says, "go into all the world and teach," matheteuo.
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  • It just means teach.
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  • Make students, amen.
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  • All of you here, you got saved
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  • Because i taught and preached
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  • On the gospel of jesus christ, right?
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  • And then after that, you keep on coming
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  • Because you want to learn
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  • More about the new covenant, become a student
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  • Of god's grace, amen?
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  • That's why you keep on coming.
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  • You keep on hearing.
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  • Am i right?
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  • So we are making students of all nations.
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  • So the word "disciples" are there throughout matthew,
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  • Mark, luke, and john.
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  • And the word "disciples" are there
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  • In the book of acts throughout.
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  • But something happened in acts 11.
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  • Look at this. this is interesting.
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  • Acts 11: "when he had found--" barnabas found paul.
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  • Paul just got saved, you know, "he brought him to antioch.
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  • So it was that for a whole year they assembled with the church
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  • And taught a great many people.
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  • And the disciples were first called christians
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  • In antioch.
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  • What are you? you are not a disciple anymore.
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  • The disciples are now called christians.
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  • And from then on, in the books,
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  • In the letters of paul which is written directly
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  • To the church, all the bible is for us.
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  • I repeat, all the bible is for us.
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  • You want to quote me, quote me, saying that, huh?
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  • Every scripture is god-breathed.
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  • So here, the disciples in the book of acts,
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  • And by the way,
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  • The book of acts is the one
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  • That ends the word "disciples."
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  • You don't find them anymore.
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  • Does that mean there's no more students?
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  • No, we--like i said, we continue to be students.
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  • Paul taught--by the way, paul taught timothy, right?
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  • "yeah, paul discipled timothy, pastor prince, paul discipled."
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  • You can use that word, you won't be wrong.
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  • But again, i said, the idea of that word carries
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  • That connotation of like, the way
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  • It was taught by the rabbis.
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  • It's been brought back to the church.
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  • So did paul disciple timothy?
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  • I said the word "disciple" didn't appear.
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  • Then how did paul regard timothy?
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  • My disciple? no, my son.
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  • It's a family thing now.
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  • It's sonship. the focus is on sonship, amen.
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  • Look at 1 timothy chapter 1: "to timothy my true son
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  • In the faith," not my disciple.
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  • Disciple is less.
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  • Son is greater.
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  • Today, we have reversed the whole thing.
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  • We have regressed into discipleship, amen?
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  • And the spirit of sonship has suffered.
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  • My greatest concern is that the spirit of sonship
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  • Has suffered.
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  • Because you say, i'm a follower of jesus.
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  • I'm a disciple.
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  • You are just christians, all of you.
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  • You are sons of god.
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  • Yes, but i'm more than a son. i'm a disciple.
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  • Like you have achieved something greater.
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  • No, you are regressing.
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  • And if you don't watch it, you'll catch
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  • The spirit of discipling and lose the spirit of sonship.
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  • Sonship is greater.
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  • The greater has come.
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  • Are you listening? so we have this.
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  • Now, in--he discipled timothy, right?
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  • But he never used the word "disciple."
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  • Disciple means teach.
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  • Because why?
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  • Why did holy spirit didn't--how many of you know--
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  • Not one instance in the new test--in the epistles
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  • Did the holy spirit choose the word "disciple,"
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  • Be it the noun or the verb.
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  • You don't find it.
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  • In fact, in 2 timothy chapter 2, it says that
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  • "you therefore, my son," again, my son, "be strong."
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  • Paul is writing on timothy.
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  • "you therefore, my son, be strong in the grace
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  • That is in christ jesus."
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  • Strong in grace. the focus is on grace.
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  • Strong in grace.
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  • Then he tells him--he teaches him mentorship, all right?
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  • You can call it disciple, student, apprentice.
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  • Then you get the right definition
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  • Of the word "disciple."
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  • Why did the holy spirit not use the word "disciples"
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  • In all the spirit-inspired letters to the church?
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  • Because he knows that sonship has come.
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  • So he renamed the disciples for the first time in acts, again.
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  • He named them what?
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  • The disciples were first called christians in antioch.
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  • So which is more important?
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  • The disciples are now, the names are changed to christians.
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  • We should be calling each other sons of god or christian.
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  • The word, you know what's christian or not?
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  • Once upon a time, there was the christ.
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  • You know what it means?
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  • Messiah in hebrew.
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  • The anointed one.
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  • That means whatever he touches that is evil, evil departs.
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  • Anointing praise.
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  • You know what the lord said to me?
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  • All right, study the word.
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  • The disciples were first called christian
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  • And i found out this word is no ordinary word.
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  • It is the word, chrematizo.
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  • All right, it's pronounced chrematizo
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  • Is a guttural sound.
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  • Chrematizo.
  • 00:11:00.311 --> 00:11:01.646
  • Now this word, divinely called, "chrematizo."
  • 00:11:01.646 --> 00:11:02.981
  • Look at the young's.
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  • Young's is the only one that saw this.
  • 00:11:04.315 --> 00:11:05.717
  • I noticed, i searched the whole thing.
  • 00:11:05.717 --> 00:11:07.819
  • Young's put down there, the disciples also
  • 00:11:07.819 --> 00:11:10.021
  • Were divinely called in antioch, christians.
  • 00:11:10.021 --> 00:11:15.426
  • Have you noticed the holy spirit changed the name?
  • 00:11:15.426 --> 00:11:18.596
  • And how often do we say christians?
  • 00:11:18.596 --> 00:11:20.098
  • Now i think i've heard people say,
  • 00:11:20.098 --> 00:11:22.834
  • To be a christian is not enough.
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  • You must be a disciple.
  • 00:11:24.836 --> 00:11:28.406
  • We have just downgraded what was a revelation peculiar
  • 00:11:28.406 --> 00:11:35.847
  • To the new covenant.
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  • It's greater.
  • 00:11:37.949 --> 00:11:40.151
  • It's like this.
  • 00:11:40.151 --> 00:11:41.486
  • Remember last time i taught you all that israel,
  • 00:11:41.486 --> 00:11:43.588
  • They were under the law?
  • 00:11:43.588 --> 00:11:44.989
  • Right, when they were under the law, what were they?
  • 00:11:44.989 --> 00:11:46.591
  • Real quick, galatians 3: "before faith came,"
  • 00:11:46.591 --> 00:11:50.328
  • Before justification by faith came,
  • 00:11:50.328 --> 00:11:51.696
  • Before jesus came, before grace came,
  • 00:11:51.696 --> 00:11:54.299
  • Now before faith came, that's the idea of faith,
  • 00:11:54.299 --> 00:11:56.668
  • Justification by faith.
  • 00:11:56.668 --> 00:11:58.002
  • "before faith came, we were held captive under the law,"
  • 00:11:58.002 --> 00:12:01.206
  • Under the ten commandments, "in prison
  • 00:12:01.206 --> 00:12:03.007
  • Until the coming faith would be revealed.
  • 00:12:03.007 --> 00:12:04.809
  • So then the law was our guardian until christ came,"
  • 00:12:04.809 --> 00:12:09.480
  • Watch this now, "in order that we might be justified by faith.
  • 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:12.750
  • But now that faith has come, we are no longer
  • 00:12:12.750 --> 00:12:15.220
  • Under a guardian."
  • 00:12:15.220 --> 00:12:16.955
  • And who is this guardian?
  • 00:12:16.955 --> 00:12:18.289
  • The law, the ten commandments, right?
  • 00:12:18.289 --> 00:12:23.161
  • It says that very clearly.
  • 00:12:23.161 --> 00:12:25.763
  • If you go on, it says, "but now faith has come,
  • 00:12:25.763 --> 00:12:27.732
  • We are no longer under guardian,
  • 00:12:27.732 --> 00:12:29.100
  • For in christ jesus, you are all sons of god through faith."
  • 00:12:29.100 --> 00:12:31.936
  • Now people, sons of god here is the word "huios."
  • 00:12:31.936 --> 00:12:34.539
  • Say huios.
  • 00:12:34.539 --> 00:12:35.974
  • Now keep this in mind, there are different words for sons,
  • 00:12:35.974 --> 00:12:39.110
  • Different periods of growth.
  • 00:12:39.110 --> 00:12:42.847
  • Baby stage is nepios. say nepios.
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  • Think of nappy, nepi, diapers, nepi, all right?
  • 00:12:45.717 --> 00:12:50.154
  • Nepios, all right?
  • 00:12:50.154 --> 00:12:51.990
  • Nepios is infant.
  • 00:12:51.990 --> 00:12:53.391
  • Huios is full-grown sons.
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  • They can drive their father's car.
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  • They can run his business, amen.
  • 00:12:58.363 --> 00:13:01.699
  • Pastor mark or mark and sons private limited, all right?
  • 00:13:01.699 --> 00:13:06.037
  • Except that the word "limited" is there but for god,
  • 00:13:06.037 --> 00:13:08.439
  • God and sons unlimited.
  • 00:13:08.439 --> 00:13:12.176
  • So you are a son, a full-grown son, amen.
  • 00:13:12.176 --> 00:13:17.515
  • Then we go to chapter 4 real fast.
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  • It says that, "i mean that the heir,
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  • As long as he is a child,"
  • 00:13:22.020 --> 00:13:23.788
  • A nepios infant.
  • 00:13:23.788 --> 00:13:26.524
  • As long the heir, the heir.
  • 00:13:26.524 --> 00:13:29.661
  • Let's say there's a billionaire.
  • 00:13:29.661 --> 00:13:31.262
  • He has only one son.
  • 00:13:31.262 --> 00:13:32.830
  • The son is the heir, right?
  • 00:13:32.830 --> 00:13:34.732
  • But as long as he's a child, he is no different from a slave.
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  • Though he's the owner of everything, am i right?
  • 00:13:38.603 --> 00:13:40.805
  • He cannot enjoy filet mignon.
  • 00:13:40.805 --> 00:13:42.907
  • He's a baby.
  • 00:13:42.907 --> 00:13:44.309
  • He cannot enjoy the father's private jet plane, right?
  • 00:13:44.309 --> 00:13:47.912
  • He can be on board, but he cannot enjoy it.
  • 00:13:47.912 --> 00:13:49.814
  • It takes maturity to enjoy, right, things like this.
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  • He cannot drive his father's car, amen.
  • 00:13:53.484 --> 00:14:00.558
  • Why? not mature.
  • 00:14:00.558 --> 00:14:03.761
  • So his father is saying, as long as you are a child, infant,
  • 00:14:03.761 --> 00:14:07.065
  • You are no different from a slave, though you are
  • 00:14:07.065 --> 00:14:08.967
  • The owner of everything.
  • 00:14:08.967 --> 00:14:10.735
  • Technically speaking, you are the owner of everything.
  • 00:14:10.735 --> 00:14:12.070
  • "but he is under guardians and managers
  • 00:14:12.070 --> 00:14:13.671
  • Until a date set by his father."
  • 00:14:13.671 --> 00:14:15.873
  • Now this is referring to the time of israel under law.
  • 00:14:15.873 --> 00:14:18.743
  • When israel was under law, under the guardian,
  • 00:14:18.743 --> 00:14:20.845
  • They were nepios, infants.
  • 00:14:20.845 --> 00:14:23.982
  • "in the same way we also, when we were children,
  • 00:14:23.982 --> 00:14:26.217
  • Nepios, we were enslaved to the elementary principles
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  • Of the world."
  • 00:14:29.687 --> 00:14:31.022
  • Real fast, i'm going to tell you this greek word
  • 00:14:31.022 --> 00:14:32.390
  • For elementary principles is the abc.
  • 00:14:32.390 --> 00:14:34.993
  • It is the ten commandments.
  • 00:14:34.993 --> 00:14:36.928
  • The ten commandments actually is the abc.
  • 00:14:36.928 --> 00:14:40.865
  • You read up. it's referring to the law.
  • 00:14:40.865 --> 00:14:43.468
  • We were under that.
  • 00:14:43.468 --> 00:14:45.003
  • Now again, i said, it doesn't mean to become lawless,
  • 00:14:45.003 --> 00:14:50.341
  • Without moral.
  • 00:14:50.341 --> 00:14:51.809
  • No, when god writes on your heart, okay?
  • 00:14:51.809 --> 00:14:55.646
  • Not only you don't commit adultery,
  • 00:14:55.646 --> 00:14:57.782
  • But very thought down here, all right?
  • 00:14:57.782 --> 00:15:00.785
  • It's like you're averse to it.
  • 00:15:00.785 --> 00:15:02.487
  • More than that, you fall in love with the woman that you married.
  • 00:15:02.487 --> 00:15:05.423
  • Because you can don't commit adultery
  • 00:15:05.423 --> 00:15:06.791
  • And not love the woman that you married.
  • 00:15:06.791 --> 00:15:09.293
  • That comes from the lord.
  • 00:15:09.293 --> 00:15:11.496
  • And all of a sudden you realize that god forgave me
  • 00:15:11.496 --> 00:15:13.031
  • So much of my sins,
  • 00:15:13.031 --> 00:15:14.465
  • Why can't i forgive her for her mistakes,
  • 00:15:14.465 --> 00:15:17.301
  • For her failures?
  • 00:15:17.301 --> 00:15:18.669
  • People need grace in their marriage.
  • 00:15:18.669 --> 00:15:22.106
  • And we'll be sharing grace as well
  • 00:15:22.106 --> 00:15:23.441
  • As part of the curriculum, amen, in marriage.
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  • Praise god, hallelujah.
  • 00:15:27.412 --> 00:15:30.248
  • So the word used is sonship.
  • 00:15:30.248 --> 00:15:32.517
  • What are you all? sons.
  • 00:15:32.517 --> 00:15:35.353
  • You know, one time i was praying.
  • 00:15:35.353 --> 00:15:38.322
  • I was praying and i don't know
  • 00:15:38.322 --> 00:15:39.891
  • What happened to me but somehow maybe
  • 00:15:39.891 --> 00:15:41.692
  • I had a stressful season at the time.
  • 00:15:41.692 --> 00:15:44.328
  • I start praying with, like, i think it's earnestness.
  • 00:15:44.328 --> 00:15:46.798
  • People think earnestness means you...
  • 00:15:46.798 --> 00:15:48.900
  • You are very, you know?
  • 00:15:48.900 --> 00:15:50.234
  • But actually earnestness is the power
  • 00:15:50.234 --> 00:15:51.569
  • Of the holy spirit generating in you.
  • 00:15:51.569 --> 00:15:53.271
  • But--so i prayed more like kind of intense, you know,
  • 00:15:53.271 --> 00:15:55.940
  • I said, "god, please, god, god, please.
  • 00:15:55.940 --> 00:15:57.575
  • You know, i need this to be done, lord.
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  • Lord, father, i pray in jesus's name,
  • 00:15:59.343 --> 00:16:01.145
  • Father, please," you know?
  • 00:16:01.145 --> 00:16:02.613
  • And all of a sudden, i felt the holy spirit correct me.
  • 00:16:02.613 --> 00:16:06.451
  • This was years ago. he correct me.
  • 00:16:06.451 --> 00:16:08.419
  • And from this came the teaching of sonship.
  • 00:16:08.419 --> 00:16:11.122
  • He said this to me: "why are you praying to me like that?
  • 00:16:11.122 --> 00:16:17.428
  • I'm your father.
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  • Why do you talk to me like a son?"
  • 00:16:19.630 --> 00:16:22.733
  • If you know a father loves you, it's a family thing.
  • 00:16:22.733 --> 00:16:25.736
  • Sometimes some things you take, you don't even ask your father.
  • 00:16:25.736 --> 00:16:28.773
  • The father already say you can take.
  • 00:16:28.773 --> 00:16:30.108
  • You go to the fridge, you take, you drink, right?
  • 00:16:30.108 --> 00:16:34.812
  • It's a family relationship.
  • 00:16:34.812 --> 00:16:36.314
  • A family relationship is that you know the father's heart.
  • 00:16:36.314 --> 00:16:40.618
  • It's a family.
  • 00:16:40.618 --> 00:16:41.953
  • It speaks of love.
  • 00:16:41.953 --> 00:16:43.287
  • The word "huios" for full-grown sons has the idea of dignity
  • 00:16:43.287 --> 00:16:50.061
  • Of the relationship.
  • 00:16:50.061 --> 00:16:51.629
  • Disciples, no.
  • 00:16:51.629 --> 00:16:54.065
  • Sons means you are in the-- it's a dignity
  • 00:16:54.065 --> 00:16:56.801
  • To be a son of god,
  • 00:16:56.801 --> 00:16:58.136
  • I'm telling you, hallelujah.
  • 00:16:58.136 --> 00:17:02.173
  • It carries the idea of dignity and character, sons of god.
  • 00:17:02.173 --> 00:17:06.244
  • So i was praying. and all of a sudden, i stop.
  • 00:17:06.244 --> 00:17:08.579
  • Yes, i checked myself.
  • 00:17:08.579 --> 00:17:10.248
  • I feel a sense of distance. like god is far away.
  • 00:17:10.248 --> 00:17:12.884
  • All of a sudden, become god, not father.
  • 00:17:12.884 --> 00:17:17.421
  • So i slowed down and i said
  • 00:17:17.421 --> 00:17:19.524
  • That i'm trying to get the answer.
  • 00:17:19.524 --> 00:17:21.592
  • I'm trying. it causes stress.
  • 00:17:21.592 --> 00:17:23.561
  • So i stopped and i reestablished
  • 00:17:23.561 --> 00:17:25.730
  • The sense of consciousness of son.
  • 00:17:25.730 --> 00:17:29.734
  • And i say, father, father.
  • 00:17:29.734 --> 00:17:31.802
  • Sometimes the word father alone is enough.
  • 00:17:31.802 --> 00:17:33.704
  • Just to say father a few times.
  • 00:17:33.704 --> 00:17:35.072
  • Father, father. see, notice?
  • 00:17:35.072 --> 00:17:38.910
  • He might be el shaddai to jacob.
  • 00:17:38.910 --> 00:17:42.346
  • He might be yahweh to abraham.
  • 00:17:42.346 --> 00:17:46.017
  • He might be el elyon to melchizedek.
  • 00:17:46.017 --> 00:17:52.256
  • But he is father.
  • 00:17:52.256 --> 00:17:54.959
  • The name that jesus came to reveal is a family feel.
  • 00:17:54.959 --> 00:18:01.966
  • It's loved.
  • 00:18:01.966 --> 00:18:04.302
  • Love.
  • 00:18:04.302 --> 00:18:06.270
  • The answers to prayers like that when you pray
  • 00:18:06.270 --> 00:18:08.206
  • In the spirit of sonship is amazing.
  • 00:18:08.206 --> 00:18:11.342
  • And i always have to guard myself because you see,
  • 00:18:11.342 --> 00:18:13.444
  • The prodigal son, right?
  • 00:18:13.444 --> 00:18:14.979
  • Remember the prodigal son? two sons.
  • 00:18:14.979 --> 00:18:18.316
  • There was two sons. say two sons.
  • 00:18:18.316 --> 00:18:20.218
  • And then they left.
  • 00:18:20.218 --> 00:18:21.552
  • One of them, sorry, they actually both left
  • 00:18:21.552 --> 00:18:23.254
  • In a way.
  • 00:18:23.254 --> 00:18:24.589
  • One left in heart, one left in presence, all right?
  • 00:18:24.589 --> 00:18:26.757
  • The younger son went to his father's inheritance and
  • 00:18:26.757 --> 00:18:29.727
  • Squandered to his father, give me my inheritance now.
  • 00:18:29.727 --> 00:18:31.596
  • I can't wait for you to die.
  • 00:18:31.596 --> 00:18:32.930
  • Give me now. so the father gave it to him.
  • 00:18:32.930 --> 00:18:34.265
  • He went to a far country and spent money
  • 00:18:34.265 --> 00:18:36.534
  • On harlots and all kinds of riotous living and all that.
  • 00:18:36.534 --> 00:18:39.804
  • And then when his money ran out, his friends ran out
  • 00:18:39.804 --> 00:18:41.939
  • And then the only job
  • 00:18:41.939 --> 00:18:43.274
  • He could have to feed his stomach was to feed
  • 00:18:43.274 --> 00:18:45.509
  • The pigs in the pig pen.
  • 00:18:45.509 --> 00:18:48.012
  • That is really the worst place to be, that place for a jew.
  • 00:18:48.012 --> 00:18:54.418
  • And he says, "my father's house is more than enough.
  • 00:18:54.418 --> 00:18:57.488
  • I know what i'll do.
  • 00:18:57.488 --> 00:18:58.823
  • I'll go back to my father and tell him.
  • 00:18:58.823 --> 00:19:00.224
  • Because the servants in my father's house,"
  • 00:19:00.224 --> 00:19:02.326
  • And the word there is hired servants, all right,
  • 00:19:02.326 --> 00:19:04.061
  • "the employees in my father's house,
  • 00:19:04.061 --> 00:19:05.830
  • They are well fed.
  • 00:19:05.830 --> 00:19:09.267
  • I'll go to my father, make me an employee."
  • 00:19:09.267 --> 00:19:11.769
  • The word literally is wage earner in the greek.
  • 00:19:11.769 --> 00:19:13.904
  • "i'll go to my father."
  • 00:19:13.904 --> 00:19:15.306
  • He rehearsed his speech.
  • 00:19:15.306 --> 00:19:16.641
  • I'm no more worthy to be called your huios.
  • 00:19:16.641 --> 00:19:18.509
  • Make me a wage earner, all right?
  • 00:19:18.509 --> 00:19:20.978
  • But hardly did those words come out of his mouth.
  • 00:19:20.978 --> 00:19:22.480
  • The father saw him from afar. the father ran.
  • 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:24.882
  • And who is the one telling this story?
  • 00:19:24.882 --> 00:19:26.217
  • Jesus. and the father hugged him.
  • 00:19:26.217 --> 00:19:28.386
  • The father kissed him all over, amen?
  • 00:19:28.386 --> 00:19:31.088
  • And before he can say his rehearsed speech,
  • 00:19:31.088 --> 00:19:33.357
  • "make me--i'm no more worthy to be called your son, amen.
  • 00:19:33.357 --> 00:19:35.926
  • Make me your wage earner."
  • 00:19:35.926 --> 00:19:38.229
  • He never got the last part out.
  • 00:19:38.229 --> 00:19:40.031
  • The father says, "bring forth the best robe!
  • 00:19:40.031 --> 00:19:42.300
  • Bring forth the ring!"
  • 00:19:42.300 --> 00:19:43.634
  • In those days, the ring is your, like, credit card, right?
  • 00:19:43.634 --> 00:19:46.404
  • Your checkbook.
  • 00:19:46.404 --> 00:19:47.872
  • You just punch the clay tablet, it is a sale.
  • 00:19:47.872 --> 00:19:51.709
  • It's greater than those things actually.
  • 00:19:51.709 --> 00:19:53.411
  • It's a direct sale, amen.
  • 00:19:53.411 --> 00:19:55.579
  • It carries your family emblem.
  • 00:19:55.579 --> 00:19:57.748
  • "bring forth the ring and put shoes on his feet."
  • 00:19:57.748 --> 00:20:00.584
  • Under the law, god told moses, "take off your shoes.
  • 00:20:00.584 --> 00:20:03.988
  • The place you are standing is holy."
  • 00:20:03.988 --> 00:20:05.556
  • Under grace, the father says, "put shoes on his feet.
  • 00:20:05.556 --> 00:20:08.759
  • He has a right to stand in my presence," amen.
  • 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:11.929
  • So now then, the father said this, listen carefully.
  • 00:20:11.929 --> 00:20:14.532
  • "my son," but pastor, by now he's back
  • 00:20:14.532 --> 00:20:17.201
  • To a nepios already.
  • 00:20:17.201 --> 00:20:18.536
  • This guy is back to a nepios.
  • 00:20:18.536 --> 00:20:19.870
  • But the father says, my huios was lost.
  • 00:20:19.870 --> 00:20:24.375
  • But now he's found.
  • 00:20:24.375 --> 00:20:26.844
  • The prodigal son came home and found grace.
  • 00:20:26.844 --> 00:20:29.347
  • When the father says, my son was lost and now he's found,
  • 00:20:29.347 --> 00:20:32.149
  • Bring forth the best robe,
  • 00:20:32.149 --> 00:20:33.484
  • Bring forth the ring, put shoes on his feet,
  • 00:20:33.484 --> 00:20:35.720
  • You know what the son who came back,
  • 00:20:35.720 --> 00:20:37.855
  • You know what he said after he saw
  • 00:20:37.855 --> 00:20:39.323
  • All these things put on him?
  • 00:20:39.323 --> 00:20:40.658
  • You know what he said?
  • 00:20:40.658 --> 00:20:41.992
  • Nothing.
  • 00:20:41.992 --> 00:20:43.894
  • That means he accepted what was given.
  • 00:20:43.894 --> 00:20:46.831
  • Some people cannot accept the best robe,
  • 00:20:46.831 --> 00:20:49.967
  • The robe of righteousness.
  • 00:20:49.967 --> 00:20:51.769
  • I'm just telling you, come back to sonship spirit.
  • 00:20:51.769 --> 00:20:56.941
  • And i'll show you another one, all right?
  • 00:20:56.941 --> 00:20:58.576
  • And with this, we close.
  • 00:20:58.576 --> 00:20:59.910
  • John 6: "and jesus said, 'therefore i have said to you
  • 00:20:59.910 --> 00:21:04.682
  • That no one can come to me unless
  • 00:21:04.682 --> 00:21:06.350
  • It has been granted to him by my father.'"
  • 00:21:06.350 --> 00:21:08.252
  • Wow, god drew you.
  • 00:21:08.252 --> 00:21:10.788
  • But many of the disciples that followed jesus, not the 12,
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  • There were 70 that followed jesus in those days.
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  • Do you know that?
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  • Not just the 12, there were 70 others.
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  • And they were disciples.
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  • The holy spirit used the word, "mathetes."
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  • But look at this, "and jesus said to them,
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  • 'no one can come unless the father draws you,' right?
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  • From that time, many of his disciples
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  • Went back and walked no more."
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  • So is it possible to be a disciple
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  • And not be saved?
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  • Yes!
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  • Do you know why they were offended?
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  • I'm here to learn from you.
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  • I came because i was very smart.
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  • I saw you have good teachings.
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  • So i come to learn.
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  • Maybe there are some things i can learn.
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  • Can you see how humble i am?
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  • But then you come and tell me
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  • That no one can come to you unless the father draw me.
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  • No, i came to you because i see how smart
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  • And intelligent you are.
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  • How erudite a scholar you are of the torah.
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  • So i come because i want to learn more.
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  • I have a few other rabbis also i follow.
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  • This is disciple in those days.
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  • They were disciples, and they walked away.
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  • It doesn't mean it gives you special status above sonship.
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  • From that time, many of his disciples--
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  • I like this because you know why?
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  • It's john 6:66.
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  • "many of his disciples went back and walked no more."
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  • 6:66, in the spirit of antichrist.
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  • You know why?
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  • They cannot take grace.
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  • Grace is always the demarcation line.
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  • And then, i'll close with this, jesus turned, 67,
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  • "then jesus said to the twelve,"
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  • Now the twelve are left, all the seventy gone.
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  • How to grow a church?
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  • I told you, jesus is not interested in crowds.
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  • He's interested whether you come to me
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  • Because you see your need of me.
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  • I am your bread and life.
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  • I am your--the truth.
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  • The truth is not precept or whatever you apply.
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  • It is me.
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  • And i'm the life.
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  • If you are sick, i am the life, amen.
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  • I am the resurrection.
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  • He's got to be everything to us.
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  • Like the sinners, when they come to him,
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  • They don't come to learn.
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  • Although they did learn.
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  • They learned of god's grace.
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  • But they came to see him as savior.
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  • The rest see him as teacher.
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  • Then jesus turned to the twelve, all right?
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  • And said, "hey, you guys want to go also?"
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  • I love it.
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  • And simon peter says, "lord, to whom shall we go?
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  • You have the words of eternal life.
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  • Also, we have come to believe
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  • And know that you are the christ,
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  • The son of the living god," amen?
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  • Have you believed that jesus is the christ,
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  • The son of the living god?
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