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Joseph Prince | Joseph Prince - Have We Replaced Sonship With Discipleship? | November 19, 2025
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- Joseph prince: i've heard people say,
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- To be a christian is not enough.
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- You must be a disciple.
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- We have just downgraded what was a revelation
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- Peculiar to the new covenant.
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- It's greater.
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- Because you say, i'm a follower of jesus,
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- I'm a disciple.
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- You are just christians, all of you.
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- You are sons of god, yes.
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- But i'm more than a son, i'm a disciple.
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- Like you have achieved something greater.
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- No, you are regressing.
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- And if you don't watch it, you'll catch
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- The spirit of discipling and lose the spirit of sonship.
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- Sonship is greater.
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- The greater has come.
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- Are you listening?
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- All the bible is for us.
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- I repeat, all the bible is for us.
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- You want to quote me, quote me saying that?
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- Every scripture is god-breathed.
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- So here, the disciples in the book of acts,
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- And by the way,
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- The book of acts is the one
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- That ends the word "disciples."
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- You don't find them anymore.
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- Does that mean there's no more students?
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- No, we, like i said, we continue to be students.
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- It's a dignity to be a son of god,
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- I'm telling you, hallelujah.
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- Announcer: what is grace?
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- What if that's not the right question?
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- What if grace is not a what, but a who,
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- With a heartbeat, a voice, and a face?
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- In today's message, joseph prince takes us
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- Into the scriptures to encounter
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- The lovely person of grace, jesus himself.
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- Grace. it is not just a teaching.
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- It is the teacher.
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- And now, here's pastor joseph prince
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- With today's program.
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- Joseph prince: jesus said in the great commission,
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- "go into all the world."
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- Now many of your bibles says, "make disciples of all nations."
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- But actually the word down there is "make students."
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- Make students of all nations.
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- Make disciple--
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- The word "disciple," okay, learn this.
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- The word "disciple," people, is from the greek, mathetes.
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- Mathetes. say, "mathetes."
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- Congregation: mathetes.
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- Joseph prince: okay, mathetes.
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- Now in the hebrew, it is talmud.
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- Say talmud.
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- Talmud from the hebrew, limmud.
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- There's a, you know, the hebrew alphabet a to z,
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- There's a letter there called lamed.
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- Lamed is actually to teach.
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- That's where you get the word "disciple."
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- Limmud.
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- So a disciple is nothing more than someone who is learning.
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- Okay, someone who is learning.
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- The unfortunate thing today is that disciples,
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- Discipleship programs and all that are portrayed
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- As if it's something that makes you
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- A superior christian, makes you a greater christian
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- Than what you really are.
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- Actually, it's nothing more than always be a learner.
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- Always be a student of god's grace, amen.
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- Long before there were christians,
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- There were disciples.
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- You find them in matthew, mark, luke, and john.
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- Jesus's disciples were disciples
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- Long before they were christians,
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- Long before they were called new creations.
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- Then something interesting happened.
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- I challenge you to look in the scriptures.
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- Look at all the spirit-inspired epistles of christ
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- Through the apostle paul.
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- All the letters to the church through peter, james, paul.
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- Paul wrote most of it, jude, john.
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- In all the spirit-inspired letters to the church
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- After the book of acts,
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- You don't find one single mention of disciples anymore.
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- Does that mean we stop learning?
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- No, but why did the holy spirit choose not to use that word?
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- Because the holy spirit knows.
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- We tend to put these kind of wrong ideas
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- About being a student.
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- We complicate it as it's something
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- You have to do to progress further.
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- Rather than, you know, and that's why
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- The word "disciple" does not appear
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- Because the holy spirit has replaced it with sonship.
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- With sonship.
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- You are now a son and daughter of god.
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- Now what's the difference?
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- Disciple, you can be a disciple, but it's not family.
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- In fact, in those days, the rabbi is,
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- Whichever rabbi it is, gamaliel and all that.
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- To be a disciple, you have to renounce your family,
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- You have to renounce your natural occupation,
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- Whatever, and come and follow him.
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- Now you are a follower of gamaliel.
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- You know, now a follower of gamaliel.
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- That's why i don't like to say, okay,
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- Pastor mark is my disciple.
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- I don't like to say pastor lawrence is my disciple.
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- No, no, no.
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- They are sons of god.
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- But are they disciples in the sense
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- Of the greek word, "mathetes"?
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- Yes, they are students of god's grace.
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- You look at the king james bible.
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- It says, "go into all the world and teach," matheteuo.
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- It just means teach.
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- Make students, amen.
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- All of you here, you got saved
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- Because i taught and preached
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- On the gospel of jesus christ, right?
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- And then after that, you keep on coming
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- Because you want to learn
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- More about the new covenant, become a student
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- Of god's grace, amen?
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- That's why you keep on coming.
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- You keep on hearing.
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- Am i right?
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- So we are making students of all nations.
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- So the word "disciples" are there throughout matthew,
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- Mark, luke, and john.
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- And the word "disciples" are there
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- In the book of acts throughout.
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- But something happened in acts 11.
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- Look at this. this is interesting.
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- Acts 11: "when he had found--" barnabas found paul.
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- Paul just got saved, you know, "he brought him to antioch.
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- So it was that for a whole year they assembled with the church
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- And taught a great many people.
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- And the disciples were first called christians
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- In antioch.
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- What are you? you are not a disciple anymore.
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- The disciples are now called christians.
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- And from then on, in the books,
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- In the letters of paul which is written directly
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- To the church, all the bible is for us.
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- I repeat, all the bible is for us.
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- You want to quote me, quote me, saying that, huh?
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- Every scripture is god-breathed.
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- So here, the disciples in the book of acts,
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- And by the way,
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- The book of acts is the one
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- That ends the word "disciples."
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- You don't find them anymore.
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- Does that mean there's no more students?
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- No, we--like i said, we continue to be students.
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- Paul taught--by the way, paul taught timothy, right?
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- "yeah, paul discipled timothy, pastor prince, paul discipled."
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- You can use that word, you won't be wrong.
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- But again, i said, the idea of that word carries
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- That connotation of like, the way
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- It was taught by the rabbis.
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- It's been brought back to the church.
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- So did paul disciple timothy?
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- I said the word "disciple" didn't appear.
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- Then how did paul regard timothy?
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- My disciple? no, my son.
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- It's a family thing now.
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- It's sonship. the focus is on sonship, amen.
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- Look at 1 timothy chapter 1: "to timothy my true son
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- In the faith," not my disciple.
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- Disciple is less.
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- Son is greater.
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- Today, we have reversed the whole thing.
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- We have regressed into discipleship, amen?
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- And the spirit of sonship has suffered.
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- My greatest concern is that the spirit of sonship
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- Has suffered.
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- Because you say, i'm a follower of jesus.
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- I'm a disciple.
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- You are just christians, all of you.
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- You are sons of god.
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- Yes, but i'm more than a son. i'm a disciple.
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- Like you have achieved something greater.
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- No, you are regressing.
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- And if you don't watch it, you'll catch
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- The spirit of discipling and lose the spirit of sonship.
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- Sonship is greater.
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- The greater has come.
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- Are you listening? so we have this.
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- Now, in--he discipled timothy, right?
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- But he never used the word "disciple."
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- Disciple means teach.
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- Because why?
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- Why did holy spirit didn't--how many of you know--
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- Not one instance in the new test--in the epistles
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- Did the holy spirit choose the word "disciple,"
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- Be it the noun or the verb.
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- You don't find it.
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- In fact, in 2 timothy chapter 2, it says that
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- "you therefore, my son," again, my son, "be strong."
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- Paul is writing on timothy.
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- "you therefore, my son, be strong in the grace
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- That is in christ jesus."
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- Strong in grace. the focus is on grace.
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- Strong in grace.
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- Then he tells him--he teaches him mentorship, all right?
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- You can call it disciple, student, apprentice.
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- Then you get the right definition
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- Of the word "disciple."
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- Why did the holy spirit not use the word "disciples"
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- In all the spirit-inspired letters to the church?
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- Because he knows that sonship has come.
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- So he renamed the disciples for the first time in acts, again.
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- He named them what?
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- The disciples were first called christians in antioch.
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- So which is more important?
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- The disciples are now, the names are changed to christians.
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- We should be calling each other sons of god or christian.
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- The word, you know what's christian or not?
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- Once upon a time, there was the christ.
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- You know what it means?
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- Messiah in hebrew.
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- The anointed one.
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- That means whatever he touches that is evil, evil departs.
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- Anointing praise.
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- You know what the lord said to me?
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- All right, study the word.
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- The disciples were first called christian
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- And i found out this word is no ordinary word.
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- It is the word, chrematizo.
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- All right, it's pronounced chrematizo
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- Is a guttural sound.
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- Chrematizo.
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- Now this word, divinely called, "chrematizo."
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- Look at the young's.
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- Young's is the only one that saw this.
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- I noticed, i searched the whole thing.
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- Young's put down there, the disciples also
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- Were divinely called in antioch, christians.
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- Have you noticed the holy spirit changed the name?
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- And how often do we say christians?
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- Now i think i've heard people say,
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- To be a christian is not enough.
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- You must be a disciple.
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- We have just downgraded what was a revelation peculiar
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- To the new covenant.
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- It's greater.
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- It's like this.
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- Remember last time i taught you all that israel,
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- They were under the law?
- 00:11:43.588 --> 00:11:44.989
- Right, when they were under the law, what were they?
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- Real quick, galatians 3: "before faith came,"
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- Before justification by faith came,
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- Before jesus came, before grace came,
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- Now before faith came, that's the idea of faith,
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- Justification by faith.
- 00:11:56.668 --> 00:11:58.002
- "before faith came, we were held captive under the law,"
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- Under the ten commandments, "in prison
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- Until the coming faith would be revealed.
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- So then the law was our guardian until christ came,"
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- Watch this now, "in order that we might be justified by faith.
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- But now that faith has come, we are no longer
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- Under a guardian."
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- And who is this guardian?
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- The law, the ten commandments, right?
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- It says that very clearly.
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- If you go on, it says, "but now faith has come,
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- We are no longer under guardian,
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- For in christ jesus, you are all sons of god through faith."
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- Now people, sons of god here is the word "huios."
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- Say huios.
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- Now keep this in mind, there are different words for sons,
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- Different periods of growth.
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- Baby stage is nepios. say nepios.
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- Think of nappy, nepi, diapers, nepi, all right?
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- Nepios, all right?
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- Nepios is infant.
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- Huios is full-grown sons.
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- They can drive their father's car.
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- They can run his business, amen.
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- Pastor mark or mark and sons private limited, all right?
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- Except that the word "limited" is there but for god,
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- God and sons unlimited.
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- So you are a son, a full-grown son, amen.
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- Then we go to chapter 4 real fast.
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- It says that, "i mean that the heir,
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- As long as he is a child,"
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- A nepios infant.
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- As long the heir, the heir.
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- Let's say there's a billionaire.
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- He has only one son.
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- The son is the heir, right?
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- But as long as he's a child, he is no different from a slave.
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- Though he's the owner of everything, am i right?
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- He cannot enjoy filet mignon.
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- He's a baby.
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- He cannot enjoy the father's private jet plane, right?
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- He can be on board, but he cannot enjoy it.
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- It takes maturity to enjoy, right, things like this.
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- He cannot drive his father's car, amen.
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- Why? not mature.
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- So his father is saying, as long as you are a child, infant,
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- You are no different from a slave, though you are
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- The owner of everything.
- 00:14:08.967 --> 00:14:10.735
- Technically speaking, you are the owner of everything.
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- "but he is under guardians and managers
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- Until a date set by his father."
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- Now this is referring to the time of israel under law.
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- When israel was under law, under the guardian,
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- They were nepios, infants.
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- "in the same way we also, when we were children,
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- Nepios, we were enslaved to the elementary principles
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- Of the world."
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- Real fast, i'm going to tell you this greek word
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- For elementary principles is the abc.
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- It is the ten commandments.
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- The ten commandments actually is the abc.
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- You read up. it's referring to the law.
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- We were under that.
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- Now again, i said, it doesn't mean to become lawless,
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- Without moral.
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- No, when god writes on your heart, okay?
- 00:14:51.809 --> 00:14:55.646
- Not only you don't commit adultery,
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- But very thought down here, all right?
- 00:14:57.782 --> 00:15:00.785
- It's like you're averse to it.
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- More than that, you fall in love with the woman that you married.
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- Because you can don't commit adultery
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- And not love the woman that you married.
- 00:15:06.791 --> 00:15:09.293
- That comes from the lord.
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- And all of a sudden you realize that god forgave me
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- So much of my sins,
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- Why can't i forgive her for her mistakes,
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- For her failures?
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- People need grace in their marriage.
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- And we'll be sharing grace as well
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- As part of the curriculum, amen, in marriage.
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- Praise god, hallelujah.
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- So the word used is sonship.
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- What are you all? sons.
- 00:15:32.517 --> 00:15:35.353
- You know, one time i was praying.
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- I was praying and i don't know
- 00:15:38.322 --> 00:15:39.891
- What happened to me but somehow maybe
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- I had a stressful season at the time.
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- I start praying with, like, i think it's earnestness.
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- People think earnestness means you...
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- You are very, you know?
- 00:15:48.900 --> 00:15:50.234
- But actually earnestness is the power
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- Of the holy spirit generating in you.
- 00:15:51.569 --> 00:15:53.271
- But--so i prayed more like kind of intense, you know,
- 00:15:53.271 --> 00:15:55.940
- I said, "god, please, god, god, please.
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- You know, i need this to be done, lord.
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- Lord, father, i pray in jesus's name,
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- Father, please," you know?
- 00:16:01.145 --> 00:16:02.613
- And all of a sudden, i felt the holy spirit correct me.
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- This was years ago. he correct me.
- 00:16:06.451 --> 00:16:08.419
- And from this came the teaching of sonship.
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- He said this to me: "why are you praying to me like that?
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- I'm your father.
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- Why do you talk to me like a son?"
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- If you know a father loves you, it's a family thing.
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- Sometimes some things you take, you don't even ask your father.
- 00:16:25.736 --> 00:16:28.773
- The father already say you can take.
- 00:16:28.773 --> 00:16:30.108
- You go to the fridge, you take, you drink, right?
- 00:16:30.108 --> 00:16:34.812
- It's a family relationship.
- 00:16:34.812 --> 00:16:36.314
- A family relationship is that you know the father's heart.
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- It's a family.
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- It speaks of love.
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- The word "huios" for full-grown sons has the idea of dignity
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- Of the relationship.
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- Disciples, no.
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- Sons means you are in the-- it's a dignity
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- To be a son of god,
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- I'm telling you, hallelujah.
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- It carries the idea of dignity and character, sons of god.
- 00:17:02.173 --> 00:17:06.244
- So i was praying. and all of a sudden, i stop.
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- Yes, i checked myself.
- 00:17:08.579 --> 00:17:10.248
- I feel a sense of distance. like god is far away.
- 00:17:10.248 --> 00:17:12.884
- All of a sudden, become god, not father.
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- So i slowed down and i said
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- That i'm trying to get the answer.
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- I'm trying. it causes stress.
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- So i stopped and i reestablished
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- The sense of consciousness of son.
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- And i say, father, father.
- 00:17:29.734 --> 00:17:31.802
- Sometimes the word father alone is enough.
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- Just to say father a few times.
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- Father, father. see, notice?
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- He might be el shaddai to jacob.
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- He might be yahweh to abraham.
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- He might be el elyon to melchizedek.
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- But he is father.
- 00:17:52.256 --> 00:17:54.959
- The name that jesus came to reveal is a family feel.
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- It's loved.
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- Love.
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- The answers to prayers like that when you pray
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- In the spirit of sonship is amazing.
- 00:18:08.206 --> 00:18:11.342
- And i always have to guard myself because you see,
- 00:18:11.342 --> 00:18:13.444
- The prodigal son, right?
- 00:18:13.444 --> 00:18:14.979
- Remember the prodigal son? two sons.
- 00:18:14.979 --> 00:18:18.316
- There was two sons. say two sons.
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- And then they left.
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- One of them, sorry, they actually both left
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- In a way.
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- One left in heart, one left in presence, all right?
- 00:18:24.589 --> 00:18:26.757
- The younger son went to his father's inheritance and
- 00:18:26.757 --> 00:18:29.727
- Squandered to his father, give me my inheritance now.
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- I can't wait for you to die.
- 00:18:31.596 --> 00:18:32.930
- Give me now. so the father gave it to him.
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- He went to a far country and spent money
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- On harlots and all kinds of riotous living and all that.
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- And then when his money ran out, his friends ran out
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- And then the only job
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- He could have to feed his stomach was to feed
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- The pigs in the pig pen.
- 00:18:45.509 --> 00:18:48.012
- That is really the worst place to be, that place for a jew.
- 00:18:48.012 --> 00:18:54.418
- And he says, "my father's house is more than enough.
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- I know what i'll do.
- 00:18:57.488 --> 00:18:58.823
- I'll go back to my father and tell him.
- 00:18:58.823 --> 00:19:00.224
- Because the servants in my father's house,"
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- And the word there is hired servants, all right,
- 00:19:02.326 --> 00:19:04.061
- "the employees in my father's house,
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- They are well fed.
- 00:19:05.830 --> 00:19:09.267
- I'll go to my father, make me an employee."
- 00:19:09.267 --> 00:19:11.769
- The word literally is wage earner in the greek.
- 00:19:11.769 --> 00:19:13.904
- "i'll go to my father."
- 00:19:13.904 --> 00:19:15.306
- He rehearsed his speech.
- 00:19:15.306 --> 00:19:16.641
- I'm no more worthy to be called your huios.
- 00:19:16.641 --> 00:19:18.509
- Make me a wage earner, all right?
- 00:19:18.509 --> 00:19:20.978
- But hardly did those words come out of his mouth.
- 00:19:20.978 --> 00:19:22.480
- The father saw him from afar. the father ran.
- 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:24.882
- And who is the one telling this story?
- 00:19:24.882 --> 00:19:26.217
- Jesus. and the father hugged him.
- 00:19:26.217 --> 00:19:28.386
- The father kissed him all over, amen?
- 00:19:28.386 --> 00:19:31.088
- And before he can say his rehearsed speech,
- 00:19:31.088 --> 00:19:33.357
- "make me--i'm no more worthy to be called your son, amen.
- 00:19:33.357 --> 00:19:35.926
- Make me your wage earner."
- 00:19:35.926 --> 00:19:38.229
- He never got the last part out.
- 00:19:38.229 --> 00:19:40.031
- The father says, "bring forth the best robe!
- 00:19:40.031 --> 00:19:42.300
- Bring forth the ring!"
- 00:19:42.300 --> 00:19:43.634
- In those days, the ring is your, like, credit card, right?
- 00:19:43.634 --> 00:19:46.404
- Your checkbook.
- 00:19:46.404 --> 00:19:47.872
- You just punch the clay tablet, it is a sale.
- 00:19:47.872 --> 00:19:51.709
- It's greater than those things actually.
- 00:19:51.709 --> 00:19:53.411
- It's a direct sale, amen.
- 00:19:53.411 --> 00:19:55.579
- It carries your family emblem.
- 00:19:55.579 --> 00:19:57.748
- "bring forth the ring and put shoes on his feet."
- 00:19:57.748 --> 00:20:00.584
- Under the law, god told moses, "take off your shoes.
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- The place you are standing is holy."
- 00:20:03.988 --> 00:20:05.556
- Under grace, the father says, "put shoes on his feet.
- 00:20:05.556 --> 00:20:08.759
- He has a right to stand in my presence," amen.
- 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:11.929
- So now then, the father said this, listen carefully.
- 00:20:11.929 --> 00:20:14.532
- "my son," but pastor, by now he's back
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- To a nepios already.
- 00:20:17.201 --> 00:20:18.536
- This guy is back to a nepios.
- 00:20:18.536 --> 00:20:19.870
- But the father says, my huios was lost.
- 00:20:19.870 --> 00:20:24.375
- But now he's found.
- 00:20:24.375 --> 00:20:26.844
- The prodigal son came home and found grace.
- 00:20:26.844 --> 00:20:29.347
- When the father says, my son was lost and now he's found,
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- Bring forth the best robe,
- 00:20:32.149 --> 00:20:33.484
- Bring forth the ring, put shoes on his feet,
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- You know what the son who came back,
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- You know what he said after he saw
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- All these things put on him?
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- You know what he said?
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- Nothing.
- 00:20:41.992 --> 00:20:43.894
- That means he accepted what was given.
- 00:20:43.894 --> 00:20:46.831
- Some people cannot accept the best robe,
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- The robe of righteousness.
- 00:20:49.967 --> 00:20:51.769
- I'm just telling you, come back to sonship spirit.
- 00:20:51.769 --> 00:20:56.941
- And i'll show you another one, all right?
- 00:20:56.941 --> 00:20:58.576
- And with this, we close.
- 00:20:58.576 --> 00:20:59.910
- John 6: "and jesus said, 'therefore i have said to you
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- That no one can come to me unless
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- It has been granted to him by my father.'"
- 00:21:06.350 --> 00:21:08.252
- Wow, god drew you.
- 00:21:08.252 --> 00:21:10.788
- But many of the disciples that followed jesus, not the 12,
- 00:21:10.788 --> 00:21:13.457
- There were 70 that followed jesus in those days.
- 00:21:13.457 --> 00:21:16.861
- Do you know that?
- 00:21:16.861 --> 00:21:18.195
- Not just the 12, there were 70 others.
- 00:21:18.195 --> 00:21:20.464
- And they were disciples.
- 00:21:20.464 --> 00:21:21.866
- The holy spirit used the word, "mathetes."
- 00:21:21.866 --> 00:21:23.801
- But look at this, "and jesus said to them,
- 00:21:23.801 --> 00:21:26.370
- 'no one can come unless the father draws you,' right?
- 00:21:26.370 --> 00:21:28.406
- From that time, many of his disciples
- 00:21:28.406 --> 00:21:30.574
- Went back and walked no more."
- 00:21:30.574 --> 00:21:34.578
- So is it possible to be a disciple
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- And not be saved?
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- Yes!
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- Do you know why they were offended?
- 00:21:42.520 --> 00:21:44.021
- I'm here to learn from you.
- 00:21:44.021 --> 00:21:46.924
- I came because i was very smart.
- 00:21:46.924 --> 00:21:50.194
- I saw you have good teachings.
- 00:21:50.194 --> 00:21:51.962
- So i come to learn.
- 00:21:51.962 --> 00:21:53.664
- Maybe there are some things i can learn.
- 00:21:53.664 --> 00:21:54.999
- Can you see how humble i am?
- 00:21:54.999 --> 00:21:58.302
- But then you come and tell me
- 00:21:58.302 --> 00:21:59.637
- That no one can come to you unless the father draw me.
- 00:21:59.637 --> 00:22:02.239
- No, i came to you because i see how smart
- 00:22:02.239 --> 00:22:05.009
- And intelligent you are.
- 00:22:05.009 --> 00:22:06.343
- How erudite a scholar you are of the torah.
- 00:22:06.343 --> 00:22:08.913
- So i come because i want to learn more.
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- I have a few other rabbis also i follow.
- 00:22:11.749 --> 00:22:14.552
- This is disciple in those days.
- 00:22:14.552 --> 00:22:19.657
- They were disciples, and they walked away.
- 00:22:19.657 --> 00:22:22.893
- It doesn't mean it gives you special status above sonship.
- 00:22:22.893 --> 00:22:31.101
- From that time, many of his disciples--
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- I like this because you know why?
- 00:22:32.770 --> 00:22:34.104
- It's john 6:66.
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- "many of his disciples went back and walked no more."
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- 6:66, in the spirit of antichrist.
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- You know why?
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- They cannot take grace.
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- Grace is always the demarcation line.
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- And then, i'll close with this, jesus turned, 67,
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- "then jesus said to the twelve,"
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- Now the twelve are left, all the seventy gone.
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- How to grow a church?
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- I told you, jesus is not interested in crowds.
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- He's interested whether you come to me
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- Because you see your need of me.
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- I am your bread and life.
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- I am your--the truth.
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- The truth is not precept or whatever you apply.
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- It is me.
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- And i'm the life.
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- If you are sick, i am the life, amen.
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- I am the resurrection.
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- He's got to be everything to us.
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- Like the sinners, when they come to him,
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- They don't come to learn.
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- Although they did learn.
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- They learned of god's grace.
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- But they came to see him as savior.
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- The rest see him as teacher.
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- Then jesus turned to the twelve, all right?
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- And said, "hey, you guys want to go also?"
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- I love it.
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- And simon peter says, "lord, to whom shall we go?
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- You have the words of eternal life.
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- Also, we have come to believe
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- And know that you are the christ,
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- The son of the living god," amen?
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- Have you believed that jesus is the christ,
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- The son of the living god?
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- Announcer: pastor joseph prince will return in a moment
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- In the chaos, he is still the calm.
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- In the panic, he is still the promise.
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- In the bad news, worse news, and fake news,
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- He is still the good news.
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- From feeding the 5000 to feeding your family,
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- He is still the supply.
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- From calming the sea of galilee to calming the storm
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- In your mind, he is still the peace.
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- Because when all else falters, fades,
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- And falls, he is still jesus above it all.
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- Of our people, still the same mission
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