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Sekulow | Jay Sekulow - Biden Approves Use of Land Mines | December 11, 2024
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- - that we said it during the transition
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- From the obama team to the trump team,
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- We say it from the biden team to the trump team yet again.
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- In these days in between,
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- It can be very dangerous for the country.
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- It can be very dangerous for our military.
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- It can be very dangerous
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- For the actions we are engaged in abroad.
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- So we have seen some actions today by the icc indicting,
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- Putting out a warrant for arrest
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- Of prime minister netanyahu of israel.
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- We'll discuss that and we'll go to our office
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- In israel later on in the broadcast today, but first,
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- Landmines from the united states being sent to ukraine.
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- Now this is by the biden administration.
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- It's a policy shift in their last 60 days
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- In their administration.
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- While they know they've got an incoming administration
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- That wants to handle the ukraine-russia situation
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- And try to bring it to a close
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- So lest people lose arms and legs and their lives,
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- They are now shipping landmines out to the ukrainians.
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- Now this is interesting because,
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- When joe biden came into office,
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- He actually had a program in june of 2022.
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- Four months after the start of the war in ukraine,
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- Biden announced that they
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- Would not use any anti-personnel mines.
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- That's how they wanna call them now.
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- They don't wanna use landmines anymore, i guess.
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- They don't want to evoke princess diana
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- And the idea of going through countries
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- And having to remove those landmines.
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- If you've been to israel,
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- If you've been to parts of the world
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- Where landmines were used, there are still no go zones
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- Because there are still areas that were mined
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- That have not been cleared
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- And are too dangerous to be cleared.
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- So that is a real issue.
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- So the fact is, okay, the biden administration
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- Was going to destroy and curtail the use
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- Of anti-personnel mines worldwide,
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- That we no longer develop them, we no longer export them.
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- They have now reversed this decision
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- With just less than two months to go in office,
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- And ben ferguson,
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- Who is joining us today from "the verdict,"
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- And you see him on "outnumbered" as well
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- And from "the ben ferguson show,"
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- And ben, they've got two months left,
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- And now we're shipping landmines to ukraine so we can,
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- I guess, take arms and legs off of russian soldiers
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- 'cause that'll make it a lot easier
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- To bring this conflict to a close.
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- - you know, it's amazing when you saw donald trump meeting
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- With joe biden.
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- He said, "we want a smooth transition of power.
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- We wanna be here to make sure everything goes well.
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- We listen to the american people,"
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- And now what are they saying?
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- They're like, "and we're also gonna try
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- To hand you world war iii."
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- That's what this is.
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- You're trying to hand a dumpster's fire
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- To the trump administration,
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- Things that you don't believe in.
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- I don't believe they believed in this 'cause if they did,
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- They would've done it 1,000 days ago or 500 days ago.
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- This has been going on for, what, i mean, a very long time,
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- And it was something that, when it first started,
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- This conflict between russia and ukraine, you had,
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- "all right, we'll wrap it up quickly.
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- Oh, we're gonna, you know, do this diplomatically."
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- None of that worked, and now they say,
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- "okay, here's everything you want
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- That we said would escalate the situation."
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- This is an administration that said they were going
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- To deescalate, yet they send unlimited dollars to ukraine,
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- And they say, "here's more weaponry.
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- Here are things that put you into an actual world war,"
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- And i think this is honestly just hoping on the day
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- That donald trump is sworn in january the 20th,
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- That he and his foreign policy team are handed a disaster.
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- They can then point and say, "good luck with this."
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- - yeah, and we're 60 days out from the inauguration,
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- And they're shipping out landmines to zelenskyy
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- To utilize against russian troops.
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- Do you support the us shipping out landmines to anyone?
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- I mean, we're not using 'em for our own troops' protection.
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- We're just shipping them off for the ukrainians
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- To utilize against the russians.
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- Who's gonna be placing these landmines?
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- Is it gonna be us troops?
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- 'cause there's a lot of us troops training those ukrainians
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- Who now are in harm's way.
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- Ballistic missiles are being fired, and the debate on tv is,
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- Well, was it a mid-range ballistic missile,
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- Or was it an intercontinental ballistic missile?
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- Was it an icbm?
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- Well, both are test runs to use, of course, nuclear weapons,
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- And that is what russia is showing their capability,
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- That they could use a hybrid nuclear weapon.
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- Are they doing everything to prevent peace
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- Between ukraine and russia?
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- All right, welcome back to "sekulow."
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- We do wanna get calls up because i think, you know,
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- For members of our military, those who served,
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- Many of you who probably served
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- In conflicts where landmines were used,
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- This is something that, i mean,
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- The united nations has tried to make a move
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- Because they are so dangerous
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- Not just during conflicts but after conflicts.
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- Children end up, you know, years after conflicts are done,
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- Decades sometimes, and children end up stepping on them.
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- I mean, we've had big campaigns to try
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- And rid the world of landmines to say,
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- "this is not something we are going to utilize."
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- The biden administration
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- In 2022 said they're done producing 'em,
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- And they're gonna actually start destroying our stockpile
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- Of landmines or whatever.
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- I love the term that they use, anti-personnel mines,
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- Which is even more dangerous because i think that means
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- That there are landmines
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- That can actually take out an entire vehicle.
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- But now we're shipping them to ukraine.
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- So how does russia respond, ben?
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- They respond with a debate that's now on tv,
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- And i love these debates.
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- Some headlines are, "the russians have utilized an icbm
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- For the first time, an intercontinental ballistic missile. "
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- Now it was not armed with a nuclear warhead,
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- But it was fired, and then others are saying,
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- "no, no, no, it was mid-range,"
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- So a mid-range ballistic missiles,
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- Both of which are capable,
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- Very capable of carrying a nuclear payload,
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- Including a weapon that we really
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- Haven't seen utilized on the battlefield.
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- We have them or the russians have them.
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- Probably the chinese have them.
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- I don't know who else, maybe the israelis,
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- These tactical nuclear weapons,
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- And tactical nuclear weapons mean they have less of a,
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- You know, of a range of disaster, of nuclear fallout.
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- This is not how you take out an entire city,
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- But if you were going up against a massive force
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- Or you were trying to take out, you know,
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- A large amount of troops or vehicles,
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- You would utilize one of these weapons
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- And then hope that the nuclear fallout was contained.
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- Remember, they have been tested,
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- But they haven't been used in warfare.
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- The russians have just now told the world,
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- "listen, you're gonna throw out landmines on us?
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- You're gonna keep funding this till the very, very end
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- And sending over us troops to train how to fire into russia?
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- Then we're going to shoot off a couple of missiles
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- That have got the capability of carrying nuclear weapons."
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- - yeah, and that was the only point of this.
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- It was to say, "you wanna go there?
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- Get ready for this and see what happens."
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- I was talking this morning to somebody
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- That works in the military, and he said to me, he goes,
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- "i don't think people understand just how close this
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- Can take us to world war iii because if you don't think
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- That vladimir putin would use one of these nuclear weapons,"
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- The smaller ones, as you just described it,
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- Against people in ukraine and say,
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- "well, this is because we had to hit this ammunition area
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- Or this airport or this power grid or all these troops
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- Where zelenskyy was staging an invasion,"
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- They'll lie, right?
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- There's propaganda.
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- They will lie to their people,
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- And they will justify it to their people
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- Why they had to use a smaller nuclear weapon.
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- This is something, if they did it,
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- Then how does the world react?
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- That's the bigger question.
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- I mean, you noticed last week
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- That you had the german chancellor who called and said,
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- "hey, maybe we need to dial things down a little bit,"
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- Because do you bring in these other countries?
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- You have russia that has just shut off a natural gas to,
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- I think it was austria just a few days ago.
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- This is ratcheting up to the things
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- That happened in world war ii.
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- - yeah, that's what they do in winter time.
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- They get the natural gas. they try to freeze everyone out.
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- - they're trying to freeze people to death.
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- I mean, this is about freezing people to death,
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- And if you look at what they hit last week in ukraine
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- And hitting the power grid in ukraine,
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- It was to make sure they can maximize civilian casualties
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- Throughout the winter
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- Because when you don't have electricity
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- And you don't have the power and you don't have the gas,
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- People literally freeze to death.
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- We saw this last winter, we saw it the winter before,
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- And now they're saying, "we'll do it on a larger scale,
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- And there's no one that can save you."
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- - yeah, i wanna go to this
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- Because this is democrat jason crow.
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- He's a congressman from colorado, and he disagrees strongly.
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- He's a veteran, i think, with the biden administration.
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- Take a listen or watch it. fight number two.
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- - and on the landmine thing,
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- I disagree with that decision as well.
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- I think it would be setting a dangerous precedent.
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- There's an anti-landmine treaty.
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- These are weapons that united states should be leading
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- To prevent the use of around the world,
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- And i just don't like the idea
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- Of that precedent being set here
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- And creating permission for that.
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- - so you think this is a bad idea
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- That the president is doing this?
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- Just to make sure i've got that.
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- - i do disagree with that.
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- Yeah. i mean, i'm very clear about that.
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- I have pushed against the use of these weapons,
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- And i think the united states should be leading
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- To help prohibit the use of these weapons around the world,
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- Not enabling it. - i thought we were.
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- I knew again that there are ieds and things like that
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- That were used in iraq and afghanistan,
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- And those were developed by the iranians typically
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- To take out our humvees and other troop patrols,
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- And they were very deadly,
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- And that's why we say that the iranians have blood
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- On their hands from many conflicts we've been involved in.
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- But now we're shipping 'em out,
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- And i think when we're shipping 'em out to,
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- And the biden administration,
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- I say we because it is the us government,
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- And trump owns that when he comes into office
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- And the trump team,
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- And if they're already getting distributed-
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- - how do you pull 'em back? - right. how do you pull 'em?
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- - and that's- - and what do you tell putin?
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- That we're gonna go in there and demine it?
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- I mean that, first of all, which is a process that, again,
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- If you've traveled any places in the world,
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- They are still having issues
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- With going back to world war ii.
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- - and you also have the question of,
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- If you hand this to zelenskyy's guys
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- And they decide to put them out,
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- Are they gonna listen to us going,
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- "hey, you know, those weapons we sent you the other day?
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- Hey, we don't want you to use them anymore."
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- They could easily just lie and say,
- 00:10:19.022 --> 00:10:20.357
- "sorry, we've already deployed all of them,"
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- Even though they actually have not,
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- And that is where this is all about a dumpster fire.
- 00:10:22.926 --> 00:10:26.063
- This is the democratic party,
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- And i'm waiting for all of the democrats
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- Who are sensible and responsible
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- To stand up and say to this white house,
- 00:10:30.901 --> 00:10:33.237
- "this is not what we believe in, this is wrong,"
- 00:10:33.237 --> 00:10:36.840
- And starts saying no to this.
- 00:10:37.474 --> 00:10:39.009
- But notice it's basically crickets because this is about,
- 00:10:39.009 --> 00:10:42.312
- "we wanna hurt donald trump when he goes into office.
- 00:10:42.312 --> 00:10:44.448
- We wanna saddle him with a new conflict
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- And a new war that takes him off his domestic agenda,
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- And we don't care who dies in the process,"
- 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:53.724
- And people will die because of these decisions,
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- And they know that.
- 00:10:55.926 --> 00:10:57.194
- - yeah, and what they are trying to do,
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- What you say with the domestic politics is exactly right.
- 00:10:58.729 --> 00:11:00.430
- You know, they don't wanna talk about those.
- 00:11:00.430 --> 00:11:01.932
- They don't wanna talk about cutting federal spending.
- 00:11:01.932 --> 00:11:03.967
- They don't wanna talk about improving the economy,
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- Getting outta this inflation,
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- And getting people back to work, but also,
- 00:11:07.504 --> 00:11:10.808
- Just the fact that only 17% of the federal workforce
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- Is going into an office right now,
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- If you've gotten calls from any
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- Of these federal agencies- - can you say that again?
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- Can you say that- - 17%.
- 00:11:20.083 --> 00:11:21.218
- - i think people need to understand.
- 00:11:21.218 --> 00:11:22.119
- So you got 100 employees,
- 00:11:22.119 --> 00:11:23.420
- Only 17 of them are going into the office.
- 00:11:23.420 --> 00:11:25.589
- - yes, and the federal government has hundreds
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- Of thousands of them.
- 00:11:27.124 --> 00:11:28.692
- So imagine at like hhs and all of those places you drive by
- 00:11:28.692 --> 00:11:31.562
- When you're in washington dc, department of education,
- 00:11:31.562 --> 00:11:34.198
- All the ones that they'd like to cut or completely take,
- 00:11:34.198 --> 00:11:36.466
- You know, cut down to nothing eventually,
- 00:11:36.466 --> 00:11:39.236
- There's no one going in.
- 00:11:39.236 --> 00:11:40.704
- I mean, literally there's people that are, i guess,
- 00:11:40.704 --> 00:11:42.206
- Going in that have to to like turn something on.
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- This is why if you've been like contacted by the irs,
- 00:11:45.242 --> 00:11:47.477
- Even for like a normal thing, if you listen closely,
- 00:11:47.477 --> 00:11:50.948
- You'll hear like a dog in the background
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- Or kids in the background,
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- And that's because - calling from home.
- 00:11:53.650 --> 00:11:54.985
- - the agents are doing their work from home.
- 00:11:54.985 --> 00:11:56.520
- They're asking, you know, can you fax something to them?
- 00:11:56.520 --> 00:11:58.455
- Or they're using their gmail, and you're like,
- 00:11:58.455 --> 00:12:00.357
- "wait, i'm gonna send irs, send tax documents to gmail?
- 00:12:00.357 --> 00:12:02.993
- Is this even what i'm supposed to be doing?"
- 00:12:02.993 --> 00:12:05.796
- Covid does, it's not a problem anymore,
- 00:12:06.630 --> 00:12:09.166
- And yet no one went back to work,
- 00:12:09.166 --> 00:12:10.667
- And this is, again, part of-
- 00:12:10.667 --> 00:12:12.769
- - go back to '16, and you guys experienced this.
- 00:12:13.737 --> 00:12:16.340
- What did they do after donald trump was elected?
- 00:12:16.340 --> 00:12:18.275
- They immediately said, "we're gonna go steele dossier.
- 00:12:18.275 --> 00:12:20.210
- We're gonna impeach him.
- 00:12:20.210 --> 00:12:21.578
- We're gonna straddle him with," what was the issue?
- 00:12:21.578 --> 00:12:23.380
- Russia, and it worked. it got him off his game.
- 00:12:23.380 --> 00:12:26.750
- It got him distracted because you had to be distracted
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- When they're trying to impeach you.
- 00:12:30.020 --> 00:12:31.421
- You guys were involved in that in defending him.
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- - we were the attorneys for the mueller investigation,
- 00:12:33.757 --> 00:12:36.159
- And then when mueller was done, it had nothing,
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- And, you know, there was nothing to do.
- 00:12:38.028 --> 00:12:40.130
- Then they didn't- - and it worked.
- 00:12:40.130 --> 00:12:41.531
- - that was immediately they switched to ukraine,
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- And it was ukraine.
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- It was the phone call. - the perfect phone call.
- 00:12:45.402 --> 00:12:46.770
- - so we're gonna impeach someone over a phone call
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- Where he said, "hey, you know, we've had these issues
- 00:12:48.605 --> 00:12:51.108
- With hunter biden, joe biden, and the ukraine."
- 00:12:51.108 --> 00:12:53.844
- - [ben] and burisma.
- 00:12:53.844 --> 00:12:55.345
- - "this is something you should look at," and, of course,
- 00:12:55.345 --> 00:12:56.713
- Now we know you should've, but we did impeach him,
- 00:12:56.713 --> 00:12:58.248
- And then he got impeached when he wasn't even president.
- 00:12:58.248 --> 00:13:00.217
- - i mean, so-
- 00:13:00.217 --> 00:13:01.485
- - and you go back to that, and it worked.
- 00:13:01.485 --> 00:13:02.753
- It worked so well in '16, and it worked.
- 00:13:02.753 --> 00:13:06.256
- - democrat are hoping if they can get the house back
- 00:13:06.256 --> 00:13:08.492
- In a couple years, that's what they'll start again.
- 00:13:08.492 --> 00:13:10.928
- - and they'll straddle - we can't deal with him
- 00:13:10.928 --> 00:13:12.462
- - and they'll deal with him. - these first couple years.
- 00:13:12.462 --> 00:13:13.997
- - they'll have him pinned down in a world iii scenario.
- 00:13:13.997 --> 00:13:15.699
- - that he doesn't want, so he's gonna, again,
- 00:13:15.699 --> 00:13:18.602
- You'll have to bring in a whole new different team of people
- 00:13:18.602 --> 00:13:20.971
- And trust these military guys that, again,
- 00:13:20.971 --> 00:13:23.373
- He has had issues with because of iraq and afghanistan,
- 00:13:23.373 --> 00:13:27.210
- "the endless wars," as he calls them,
- 00:13:27.210 --> 00:13:29.046
- And it looks like they're trying to create another one right
- 00:13:29.046 --> 00:13:31.515
- Before he comes into office,
- 00:13:31.515 --> 00:13:33.317
- One that there are ways to see out of this conflict.
- 00:13:33.317 --> 00:13:36.720
- There were ways to see
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- How to get outta this conflict a year ago,
- 00:13:38.021 --> 00:13:41.491
- And yet we've kept ratcheting it up
- 00:13:41.491 --> 00:13:43.827
- Instead of trying to put a deal together
- 00:13:43.827 --> 00:13:47.831
- That gives zelenskyy a way to walk away and putin a way.
- 00:13:47.831 --> 00:13:51.301
- He can walk away - to save face.
- 00:13:51.301 --> 00:13:52.569
- - and tell his people whatever.
- 00:13:52.569 --> 00:13:53.937
- - they won. - they're not gonna know,
- 00:13:53.937 --> 00:13:55.305
- And by the way, zelenskyy,
- 00:13:55.305 --> 00:13:57.507
- His people stops the destruction ukraine.
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- They gotta rebuild.
- 00:14:00.010 --> 00:14:01.311
- There's lots of us companies
- 00:14:01.311 --> 00:14:02.512
- That want those contracts to rebuild.
- 00:14:02.512 --> 00:14:04.648
- Let 'em rebuild.
- 00:14:04.648 --> 00:14:05.782
- - well, you look at the phone calls,
- 00:14:05.782 --> 00:14:07.184
- And if you look at the calls that were going out
- 00:14:07.184 --> 00:14:09.119
- From the trump transition team,
- 00:14:09.119 --> 00:14:10.687
- It was very clear they were calling everyone in conflicts,
- 00:14:10.687 --> 00:14:13.123
- Whether it was israel, whether it is russia,
- 00:14:13.123 --> 00:14:15.892
- Whether it's ukraine, saying,
- 00:14:15.892 --> 00:14:17.494
- "hey, we wanna dial everything back when we get into office.
- 00:14:17.494 --> 00:14:21.064
- That is our foreign policy,"
- 00:14:21.064 --> 00:14:23.066
- And so the game that was played
- 00:14:23.066 --> 00:14:25.769
- Was the democrats immediately said, "no, no, no."
- 00:14:25.769 --> 00:14:27.838
- If that's what you want, whether it's the right policy
- 00:14:27.838 --> 00:14:30.407
- For the world or for the united states of america
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- Or even respecting the voters,"
- 00:14:32.342 --> 00:14:33.744
- And the voters need to realize this right now
- 00:14:33.744 --> 00:14:35.545
- More than ever before.
- 00:14:35.545 --> 00:14:36.947
- The democratic party does not respect your vote,
- 00:14:36.947 --> 00:14:40.717
- They do not respect who you voted for,
- 00:14:40.717 --> 00:14:43.020
- And they are going to do everything they can
- 00:14:43.020 --> 00:14:44.654
- To undermine donald trump every day in washington.
- 00:14:44.654 --> 00:14:47.190
- - breaking news.
- 00:14:47.190 --> 00:14:48.592
- Also, the icc, the international criminal court,
- 00:14:48.592 --> 00:14:50.360
- Where we've argued before, has just issued an arrest warrant
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- For israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu.
- 00:14:53.497 --> 00:14:56.299
- This is not only outrageous and illegal,
- 00:14:56.299 --> 00:14:58.902
- It violates international law, and, again, the oslo accords.
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- We'll get into some of that.
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- All right. welcome back to "sekulow."
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- We are taking your calls.
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- Let's go to mary in maryland on line three.
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- Hey, mary, welcome to "sekulow." you're on the air.
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- - [mary] thank you very much. i'm just concerned.
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- And i was wondering if there was any way that the senate
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- And or the house, i don't know how that works,
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- But whoever could do it (laughs) would do it
- 00:15:31.052 --> 00:15:33.855
- Since some of the democrats are against this move
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- By biden for the landmines, if they couldn't
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- Demand an immediate emergency medical mental exam
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- For biden 'cause he's- - he's on the way out.
- 00:15:46.033 --> 00:15:49.537
- You're kind of saying like, "who's running this?"
- 00:15:49.537 --> 00:15:50.838
- The problem is they've authorized the funding,
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- And when they've authorized the funding,
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- Then the funding gets to be utilized
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- By president biden and his team.
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- I'm not saying he's necessarily going
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- And picking out and choosing all these things to do,
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- But this is a big reversal
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- On just the landmine issue to say-
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- - he wouldn't have gotten the funding,
- 00:16:07.054 --> 00:16:08.322
- I don't believe, if they would've said,
- 00:16:08.322 --> 00:16:09.790
- "this is gonna be used - well, could you imagine them
- 00:16:09.790 --> 00:16:10.925
- For landmines." - going to congress
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- And saying to the democrats,
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- The democrats who were gonna have to be up for reelection,
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- All of the house members, many of the senate members.
- 00:16:14.929 --> 00:16:16.564
- It was tough, which they lost the senate,
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- And they lost the white house,
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- If they were going to add to that campaign
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- That they wanna be the party who brings landmines
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- - landmines. - back to conflicts.
- 00:16:25.473 --> 00:16:26.707
- - you and i were talking during the break.
- 00:16:26.707 --> 00:16:28.242
- This was a cnn headline, just to put it in perspective,
- 00:16:28.242 --> 00:16:30.945
- About how dangerous landmines are.
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- Quote, "an unexploded american bomb from world war ii
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- That had been buried at a japanese airport exploded
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- On wednesday, causing a large crater in a taxiway
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- And the cancellation more than 80 flights but no injuries,
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- Japanese officials said."
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- This is a american landmine we used in world war ii
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- That just exploded a week ago.
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- So the idea, and i think to the caller's point,
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- She made a great point, mary, like, can they not stop him?
- 00:16:55.970 --> 00:16:59.073
- I don't think democrats wanna stop him.
- 00:16:59.073 --> 00:17:00.775
- - i don't think they do either.
- 00:17:00.775 --> 00:17:02.310
- Some will say that they're against it,
- 00:17:02.310 --> 00:17:04.478
- But they are not against the bigger idea here, ben,
- 00:17:04.478 --> 00:17:08.015
- Which the bigger idea here
- 00:17:08.015 --> 00:17:09.517
- Is we wanna escalate this conflict so that president trump
- 00:17:09.517 --> 00:17:12.453
- Cannot go in as easily and negotiate a way out of this
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- For putin and zelenskyy that they can both accept.
- 00:17:18.759 --> 00:17:21.462
- I think both of their people,
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- If you poll most of the russian people,
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- They would like to reenter the world again.
- 00:17:24.932 --> 00:17:26.834
- I mean, we had an office there for 20-plus years.
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- It survived during the invasion of crimea
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- Because the sanctions weren't put in place completely
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- By the obama administration.
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- So we didn't have to cut that office off,
- 00:17:39.614 --> 00:17:42.283
- But the sanctions that were put in place
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- When they invaded ukraine this time, by the way,
- 00:17:43.985 --> 00:17:46.687
- Nothing happened in the trump administration.
- 00:17:46.687 --> 00:17:48.856
- So, you know, no invasions of russia by russia then.
- 00:17:48.856 --> 00:17:51.959
- Then they go into the full invasion ukraine
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- When biden takes president,
- 00:17:53.394 --> 00:17:54.729
- But, you know, we had to cut off.
- 00:17:54.729 --> 00:17:56.497
- I mean, so after 20-plus years of work
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- In a post-communist russia,
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- The slavic center for law and justice
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- Has been able to survive some on its own,
- 00:18:03.437 --> 00:18:06.107
- But i think most russians would like to rejoin the world.
- 00:18:06.107 --> 00:18:08.442
- Most ukrainians would like to stop this conflict
- 00:18:08.442 --> 00:18:10.911
- That they didn't even want with their russian neighbors,
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- Many of which are, i mean,
- 00:18:14.215 --> 00:18:15.850
- This is like family versus family,
- 00:18:16.617 --> 00:18:17.618
- A lot of these fights, too,
- 00:18:17.618 --> 00:18:19.153
- Especially when you get towards the eastern side of ukraine.
- 00:18:19.153 --> 00:18:20.788
- - well, the number of casualties,
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- Russia has lied about that,
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- And there's been a lot of disinformation.
- 00:18:25.026 --> 00:18:27.094
- But if you look at the number-
- 00:18:27.094 --> 00:18:28.529
- - the mothers know, the families know,
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- And you can see that- - they know,
- 00:18:29.864 --> 00:18:31.165
- And that's where i think there's a genuine want
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- By the people in russia, "can we please stop this?
- 00:18:33.701 --> 00:18:36.470
- Because this doesn't make any sense,
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- And it doesn't make any sense
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- To our family and friends in ukraine.
- 00:18:39.907 --> 00:18:41.442
- It doesn't make any sense why you're trying to do this
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- For the rest of the world,"
- 00:18:43.778 --> 00:18:45.313
- And they wanna reenter the world, as you described it.
- 00:18:45.313 --> 00:18:47.114
- - yeah, i think, again, we see ways out of this,
- 00:18:47.114 --> 00:18:51.852
- But every biden decision,
- 00:18:51.852 --> 00:18:53.921
- Or let's just say every biden white house,
- 00:18:53.921 --> 00:18:56.390
- Every decision they're making in these next 60 days
- 00:18:56.390 --> 00:19:00.394
- Is going to make it more difficult for president trump
- 00:19:00.394 --> 00:19:03.631
- To be able to end this conflict quickly.
- 00:19:03.631 --> 00:19:06.434
- Now i think he's gonna use creative ways.
- 00:19:06.434 --> 00:19:08.569
- He's gonna have to look at every one of these situations,
- 00:19:08.569 --> 00:19:10.938
- And we know this is on the top of his list to do
- 00:19:10.938 --> 00:19:13.174
- Because it's the only real hot war in the world right now.
- 00:19:13.174 --> 00:19:17.111
- Of course, you've still got the actions going on in gaza,
- 00:19:17.111 --> 00:19:20.281
- And we're gonna talk about that right now with the icc.
- 00:19:20.281 --> 00:19:24.385
- Again, so if you woke up to the news,
- 00:19:24.385 --> 00:19:27.321
- And you may have said, "well, is this new, jordan?
- 00:19:27.321 --> 00:19:28.956
- Is it really new that the international criminal court
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- Has issued an arrest warrant
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- Against prime minister benjamin netanyahu
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- And the former defense minister of israel?"
- 00:19:35.496 --> 00:19:37.732
- They only issued it against one member of hamas
- 00:19:37.732 --> 00:19:40.468
- Because the other two that would've actually been,
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- The other two they would have issued the warrants against
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- Are no longer with us.
- 00:19:46.407 --> 00:19:47.908
- Ismael haniyeh and sinwar. - yeah, they're deceased.
- 00:19:47.908 --> 00:19:50.211
- - yeah, yahya sinwar and ismael haniyeh,
- 00:19:50.211 --> 00:19:51.812
- You're no longer with us, but their minister of defense is.
- 00:19:51.812 --> 00:19:54.548
- So they did issue a warrant for him,
- 00:19:54.548 --> 00:19:57.118
- But hamas is praising this action, of course, and-
- 00:19:57.118 --> 00:20:00.221
- - and by the way, that guy's not trying to travel
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- And do international diplomacy the way that israel is.
- 00:20:01.922 --> 00:20:04.825
- - he's living in tunnels. - and let's-
- 00:20:04.825 --> 00:20:06.660
- - probably not even in gaza anymore.
- 00:20:06.660 --> 00:20:08.896
- - let's paint a picture. - at least what we know.
- 00:20:08.896 --> 00:20:11.232
- - yeah, he's hiding out.
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- Let's paint this picture, and i wanna ask you this, jordan,
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- 'cause i think this is important for people to understand.
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- When you have an icc-issued arrest warrant
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- And you are an actual leader of a country like israel,
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- It is clearly to handcuff you and to put you, in essence,
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- A jail where you cannot travel to many parts of the world
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- That you desperately need to travel to
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- As a world figure head. - yeah.
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- It treats you as almost a criminal already because yes,
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- You are a prisoner in at least your own country,
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- Especially when you are surrounded by mostly enemies.
- 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:49.970
- I mean, now israel has made new diplomatic deals
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- Through the abraham accords and, i think,
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- Through the trump administration
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- In the second round of the trump administration.
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- Those deals will be even more important for israel,
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- But right now, imagine this.
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- If you're benjamin netanyahu
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- And you think you needed to go to europe,
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- Most european countries are members of the icc.
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- They would be under an obligation to arrest you when you-
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- - [ben] and turn you over to the hague.
- 00:21:12.860 --> 00:21:15.129
- - now, are they definitely going to do that? no.
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- Could you negotiate out that they're not going to
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- And you're gonna still be allowed to, you know,
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- Attend this meeting or event or speech?
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- But then you're going to rely on that government,
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- And you have to rely- - to not double cross you.
- 00:21:28.275 --> 00:21:29.944
- - right, to not double cross you
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- Or that your plane doesn't have, you know,
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- Some kind of issue and you've gotta land somewhere
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- And then you land there.
- 00:21:35.049 --> 00:21:36.183
- I mean, this does cause trouble.
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- It causes problems internationally and diplomatically,
- 00:21:37.751 --> 00:21:40.654
- And, by the way,
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- The reason why the icc hasn't done it before is because,
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- Even in the oslo accords when palestine
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- Was somehow recognized and they let them join the icc,
- 00:21:49.463 --> 00:21:53.434
- They still said very clearly that the palestinians
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- And the icc have no jurisdiction over,
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- They cannot assert jurisdiction over israelis.
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- That means that they can refer cases to the icc.
- 00:22:04.912 --> 00:22:08.148
- So you've got all this international law telling the icc,
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- "you can't do this.
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- We filed this over a year ago when this conflict,"
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- You know, over much more over a year ago now,
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- When this conflict began,
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- After what happened on october 7th,
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- And you would think in the world
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- That the people who would be most worried
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- About an international criminal court
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- Would be the hama rapists and murders.
- 00:22:27.134 --> 00:22:29.503
- - yeah, not netanyahu. - i mean,
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- I'm still wearing a yellow ribbon
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- Because there's still americans being held hostage,
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- For god's sakes, in gaza.
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- But who's having to worry about being arrested
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- And going to the hague for the international criminal court?
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- It's the jews.
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- It's the israelis - it's-
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- - who are only fighting this battle
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- Because of what hamas did on october 7th.
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- They would not be in gaza.
- 00:22:48.522 --> 00:22:49.957
- This conflict would not have been going on.
- 00:22:49.957 --> 00:22:51.892
- No one was interested in starting a new conflict with hamas,
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- Including netanyahu.
- 00:22:54.762 --> 00:22:55.829
- Go back and look at his speeches.
- 00:22:55.829 --> 00:22:57.765
- He was trying to say, "you know what?
- 00:22:58.532 --> 00:23:00.034
- They don't look like they're bothering us right now.
- 00:23:00.034 --> 00:23:01.535
- Let's not bother them," and they planned this attack.
- 00:23:01.535 --> 00:23:04.705
- Israel has to respond. there are still americans there.
- 00:23:04.705 --> 00:23:07.641
- There's still hostages there,
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- And yet they are the criminals.
- 00:23:08.876 --> 00:23:10.010
- - and make no mistake.
- 00:23:10.010 --> 00:23:11.312
- The icc, this is clearly an anti-semitic move.
- 00:23:11.312 --> 00:23:14.982
- - i want to take us quickly to israel.
- 00:23:14.982 --> 00:23:17.518
- Jeff ballabon, who's our director of aclj jerusalem,
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- Is in israel right now.
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- Jeff, your reaction to these icc arrest warrants
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- On netanyahu and the former defense minister,
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- Hamas, i think their one surviving minister of defense
- 00:23:28.963 --> 00:23:33.100
- Was also indicted, though they think this is a great move.
- 00:23:33.100 --> 00:23:36.904
- We've been explaining to people
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- Why this is an illegal move by the icc.
- 00:23:38.238 --> 00:23:40.975
- We've already filed this at the icc once,
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- That they lack jurisdiction here,
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- But the icc has now decided to ignore those laws,
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- To ignore the rules, and i think it's time for the us
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- And israel's other allies to do what senator thune said they
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- Will do if democrats don't do,
- 00:23:55.856 --> 00:23:57.157
- Which is take action against the icc,
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- Which would mean sanctions with organizations
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- Who work with them as well as banning them
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- From travel to the us and maybe some other countries.
- 00:24:03.764 --> 00:24:07.167
- - jordan, this is incredibly important,
- 00:24:08.035 --> 00:24:10.237
- But i feel as though as many of enemies
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- Of just basic good are happening in the world,
- 00:24:12.840 --> 00:24:15.709
- They're self emulating.
- 00:24:15.709 --> 00:24:17.111
- They're really burning themselves up
- 00:24:17.111 --> 00:24:18.946
- Because by taking this action as opposed to, you know,
- 00:24:18.946 --> 00:24:21.548
- They're treating the good guys who are trying
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- To defend themselves as though they're the bad guys.
- 00:24:23.384 --> 00:24:25.819
- No country in modern recorded history has ever waged a war
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- With fewer non-combatant casualties, and indeed,
- 00:24:29.790 --> 00:24:34.328
- No country has ever faced this kind of a dug-in enemy
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- That uses a population as shields, and nonetheless,
- 00:24:37.364 --> 00:24:42.703
- The idf takes more care to prevent civilian casualties
- 00:24:43.804 --> 00:24:45.806
- Or non-combatant casualties than any army
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- On planet earth probably in recorded history.
- 00:24:49.043 --> 00:24:51.078
- And yet the icc is pursuing these claims against them,
- 00:24:51.078 --> 00:24:55.182
- And i believe that the incoming congress,
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- Along with the president, will do a great deal, hopefully,
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- To show, they've really savaged themselves, jordan.
- 00:25:02.056 --> 00:25:05.426
- So, yes, in israel here, this is being met with some degree
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- Of chagrin, concern, shock, horror,
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- But the truth is nobody suspects for a second
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- That this challenges the morality
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- And the decency and legality of israel.
- 00:25:16.003 --> 00:25:18.572
- It challenges the morality,
- 00:25:18.572 --> 00:25:19.707
- Decency, and legality of the icc,
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- And god willing, the new administration,
- 00:25:22.109 --> 00:25:25.379
- New congress will hopefully end this reign
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- Of terror against the jewish people.
- 00:25:28.282 --> 00:25:29.783
- - yeah, i mean, we've heard from the leadership
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- Of the new congress coming in
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- That they will put sanctions in place.
- 00:25:34.254 --> 00:25:35.622
- They want the sanctions in place now,
- 00:25:35.622 --> 00:25:36.924
- But if it's not done in these next 60 days
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- By senate democrats, and house republicans,
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- Of course, could work on that,
- 00:25:43.097 --> 00:25:44.398
- But they're not gonna be able to get it there
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- If the senate democrats oppose it,
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- That they will do it immediately,
- 00:25:47.501 --> 00:25:49.636
- And that would freeze icc organizations in the us
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- That have funds in the us from supporting the icc.
- 00:25:53.741 --> 00:25:57.244
- You could also ban the icc team from travel to the us
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- And work with some allies to ban them from traveling there.
- 00:26:01.982 --> 00:26:05.352
- - i do think, and, i mean, i hope and pray,
- 00:26:05.352 --> 00:26:07.054
- But i also think that the icc
- 00:26:07.054 --> 00:26:08.455
- Has essentially signed its own irrelevancy warrant,
- 00:26:08.455 --> 00:26:12.626
- Let's call it, by this action.
- 00:26:12.626 --> 00:26:15.062
- It's very plain that they're taking a side here
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- Without any real justification.
- 00:26:16.864 --> 00:26:18.699
- - [jordan] as always, let me thank everybody at tbn
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- For providing this time to us at no cost so we
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- Can update you on the most important issues of the day.
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- From all of us at the aclj, thanks, tbn.
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