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Defeat Terror

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July 19, 2016

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[ANNOUNCER] LIVE FROM WASHINGTON D.C. JAY SEKULOW
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LIVE. PHONE LINES ARE OPEN FOR YOUR QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
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AND NOW, CHIEF COUNSEL FOR THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW
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AND JUSTICE, JAY SEKULOW! JAY SEKULOW: WE'VE GOT A LOT TO TALK
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ABOUT FOLKS AND THAT STARTS WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE
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UNITED STATES WHO GOES TO ORLANDO DURING A VIGIL AND MAKES
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THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT SAYING THAT WE DEFEAT THIS EVIL WITH
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OUR HUMANITY, WHICH TRANSCENDS OUR DIFFERENCES. AND OUR MOST
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RESPECTIVE RESPONSE TO TERROR IS COMPASSION, IT'S UNITY, AND IT'S
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LOVE. I'M NOT KIDDING YOU. THIS IS WHAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF
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THE UNITED STATES HAS SAID. LET ME PLAY IT FOR YOU. -OUR MOST
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EFFECTIVE RESPONSE TO TERROR AND TO HATRED IS COMPASSION, IT'S
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UNITY, AND IT'S LOVE. -THIS IS ABSURD. POSITIVELY ABSURD COMING
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FROM OUR CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF
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THE UNITED STATES, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ISSUES INVOLVING
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TERRORISM. AND JORDAN, AND I'LL GO TO JORDAN AND THANN QUICKLY
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HERE, THE NATURE OF THIS STATEMENT THAT IT'S LOVE IS WHAT
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YOU NEED, QUOTING THE 1968 BEATLES SONG, IS ABSURD. BUT I
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MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE BEATLES SONG IS A SONG, IT'S NOT A METHOD
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UPON WHICH YOU ERADICATE TERRORISM. JORDAN SEKULOW: WELL,
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IT'S LIKE A WAR PROTEST WHEN, IN FACT, WHAT WE NEED IS WAR. I
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MEAN, IT'S JUST LIVING IN THIS OTHER REALITY, ROSE COLORED
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GLASSES, TO SAY THE LEAST. BUT HONESTLY WHAT I SEE IT AS IS THE
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THROWBACK. WE TALK ABOUT THAT THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATION THAT
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WAS EDUCATED AT THESE VERY HIGH LEVELS IN A RADICAL TIME PERIOD.
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AND NOW THEY'RE TAKING THAT RADICAL IDEOLOGY THAT THEY
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LEARNED IN COLLEGE IN THEIR IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS IN THE 60S AND
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70S AND APPLYING IT TO OUR FOREIGN POLICY OR OUR NATIONAL
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DEFENSE, OR OUR SECURITY, WHEN IT COMES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF
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JUSTICE, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND THAT LOVE WILL WIN OUT THE
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DAY. AND WE KNOW THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE WHEN YOU'RE DEALING
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WITH TERRORISTS. THEY ARE NOT EVEN LIKE A NORMAL ARMY THAT YOU
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CAN ULTIMATELY RECONCILE WITH. -RIGHT. -THEY ARE A FORCE THAT
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IS WILLING TO DIE FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE IN. THEY WANT TO BRING
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ABOUT THAT ULTIMATE DEATH FOR ALL OF THEM IF THEY CANNOT BE
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VICTORIOUS ON THE BATTLEFIELD. -WE'RE TAKING YOUR CALLS ON
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THIS ABSURD STATEMENT. YOUR POSITION; WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT
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YOU THINK ABOUT THIS REACTION FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE
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UNITED STATES, ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE. AS I SAID, THIS IS A
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RESPONSE BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ON THIS ISSUE OF COMBATING ISIS
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AND TERRORISM, I THINK, IS ABSURD. WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE
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ABOUT THAT. WE'RE GOING TO ANALYZE THE ISSUE AND WHAT IS
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THE APPROACH THAT WE SHOULD TAKE WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THE BRAK.
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JAY SEKULOW: THE PHILOSOPHY OF
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THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ON DEALING WITH TERRORISM IS, TO QUOTE THE
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BEATLES, ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE, EXCEPT THAT'S NOT A TERRORISM
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PHILOSOPHY, THAT WAS A SONG IN THE 1960S. SO THIS NATURE OF
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THIS HAS REACHED THE LEVEL OF ABSURDITY. AND FIRST OF ALL,
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NOBODY IN AMERICA IS BUYING THIS. NO ONE IS BUYING THAT THIS
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IS YOU CAN LOVE THEM INTO STOP KILLING US'. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT
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WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. THAT IS NOT THE WAY THIS WORKS. WE'RE
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GOING TO GO RIGHT TO OUR PHONES. BEFORE WE GO TO THE PHONES,
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THOUGH, LET ME GO TO THANN BENNETT. THERE IS ALSO A STORY
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THAT IS OUT RIGHT NOW, U.S. AFRICA COMMANDER NOMINEE IS A
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MAJOR LT. GENERAL. HE WAS ASKED, IS THERE A GRAND STRATEGY IN
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COMBATING ISIS? HE SAYS THERE'S NOT. HE SAID IS ISIS A THREAT IN
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LIBYA. HE WAS ASKED A QUESTION BY LINDSEY GRAHAM. HE SAID YES.
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ARE WE TAKING ACTION IN LIBYA? HE SAYS NO. I WANT TO PLAY FOR
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YOU THIS INTERCHANGE BETWEEN SENATOR GRAHAM OR, YOU WANT TO
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START WITH MCCAIN? LET'S START WITH JOHN MCCAIN FIRST. FOLKS,
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I'M PUTTING THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF, BECAUSE IT TIES INTO THE
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ORLANDO SITUATION. IT'S THE LACK OF A STRATEGY HERE. LET'S PLAY
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THIS SENATOR MCCAIN LANGUAGE. SENATOR MCCAIN: DO WE HAVE A
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STRATEGY FOR LIBYA OR ARE WE JUST ACTING IN AN AD HOC
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FASHION, WHICH HAS BEEN THE CASE AS WE'VE WATCHED ISIS ESTABLISH,
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METASTASIZE, AND GROW IN LIBYA. -WELL, AS INDICATED, THE 2
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STATEGIC OBJECTIVES THAT WE DO HAVE FOR LIBYA IS TO ASSIST THE
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-I KNOW THE OBJECTIVES. DO WE HAVE A STRATEGY? -TO CONTINUE
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TO SUPPORT THAT RIGHT AT THIS POINT IN TIME. I AM NOT AWARE OF
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ANY OVERALL GRAND STRATEGY AT THIS POINT. -PRETTY SHOCKING.
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NO OVERALL GRAND STRATEGY. NOW THIS IS GOING ON IN WASHINGTON
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RIGHT NOW. THANN, REACTION ON THE HILL? THANN BENNETT: JAY,
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THIS IS THE NOMINEE TO LEAD THE PRESIDENT'S PLAN TO ELIMINATE
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ISIS IN WHERE? AFRICA. WHERE IS LIBYA? AFRICA. AND HE TESTIFIES
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TO THE SENATE THAT THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T HAVE ANY PLAN OR ANY
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STRATEGY THAT HE IS AWARE OF TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. SO LET ME ASK
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THIS QUESTION, IF THE SENATE CONFIRMS THIS INDIVIDUAL TO LEAD
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THE PRESIDENT'S STRATEGY TO ERADICATE ISIS IN AFRICA, HOW IS
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HE GOING TO GO ABOUT THAT IF HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THE STRATEGY
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IS? JAY, LAST WEEK WE HEARD FROM DIRECTOR COMEY, -RIGHT.
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-DIRECTOR BRENNAN AND THOSE 51 STATE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES. EVEN
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THE PEOPLE THAT THE PRESIDENT IS NOMINATING THIS WEEK TO LEAD
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THIS STRATEGY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STRATEGY IS. -AND JORDAN,
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THIS POINTS TO THE FUNDAMENTAL FAILURE. IT'S LORETTA LYNCH IN
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ORLANDO SAYING WE NEED LOVE AND COMPASSION TO BEAT THE
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TERRORISTS. IT'S THE NOMINEE FOR AFRICOM, WHICH IS THE AFRICAN
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COMMAND OF THE U.S. MILITARY IN AFRICA, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE
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IS NO OVERALL STRATEGY. THIS IS THE PRESIDENT'S NOMINEE. THIS IS
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VERY, VERY TROUBLING. JORDAN SEKULOW: YES, IT'S THIS KIND OF,
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LIKE, LOVE YOUR ENEMY APPROACH AND MISSING THE POINT OF THAT,
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THAT YOU STILL DON'T STOP FIGHTING YOUR ENEMY AND YOU
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STILL HAVE TO DEFEAT YOUR ENEMY. AND THAT MEANS, OF COURSE, AS
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CHRISTIANS, WE PRAY THAT THIS SITUATION IS RESOLVED BUT WE
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ALSO DEAL WITH REALITY. AND AS MANY OF US WERE BLESSED TO BE
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BORN IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, A COUNTRY THAT HAS THE
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ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS WHEN WE EITHER FACE THESE
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ATTACKS AT HOME OR ABROAD WHEN THERE IS WAR WAGING AND IT IS
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IMPACTING OUR INTERESTS, IT'S GETTING TO THE LEVEL OF
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GENOCIDE, WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. WE ARE BORN INTO A
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COUNTRY WHERE WE HAVE DIRECT REPRESENTATION FROM OUR LEADERS
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AND CONGRESS. WE ELECT OUR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
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AND WE CAN DEMAND MORE. AND FORTUNATELY, AND I SAY THIS
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HONESTLY, FORTUNATELY, WE'VE GOT A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION COMING
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UP WHERE WE CAN SEE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE HOPEFULLY
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VERY SOON. -ALRIGHT, WE'VE GOT AN OPPOSING CALL COMING IN FROM
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ANGEL IN BROOKLYN, NY ON LINE 2. WE'RE GOING TO GO RIGHT TO IT.
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ANGEL, YOU'RE ON THE AIR. -HOW ARE YOU DOING GUYS? -GOOD.
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-I'M SORRY, BUT I OPPOSE WITH THE IDEA. I AGREE WITH THE
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ATTORNEY GENERAL. -WELL, WHAT IDEA WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
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DO YOU AGREE WITH? WHAT IS THE IDEA THAT YOU AGREE WITH?
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-WELL, WITH GOING WITH PEACE INSTEAD OF WAR; AN EYE FOR AN
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EYE. YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE, BUT WE CAN'T KEEP
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SENDING THE YOUNG CHILDREN OVER THERE AND PEOPLE KEEP DYING.
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-BUT YOU DON'T REALLY AGREE WITH HER THAT YOU WIN THIS WAR
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WITH RADICAL JIHADISTS BY LOVE, DO YOU? -EVEN IF WE GET RID OF
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THEM, BEFORE ISIS, -HOLD IT. ANGEL, I JUST ASKED MY QUESTION
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AND THEN I'LL LET YOU TALK, DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE CAN
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DEFEAT THEM BY LOVE? BECAUSE YOU ALSO SAID AN EYE FOR AN EYE. BY
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THE WAY, THAT'S RIGHT OUT OF THE SCRIPTURES. AN EYE FOR AN EYE IS
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PART OF IT, BUT LOVE'S IN THE SCRIPTURES TOO AND I UNDERSTAND
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THE PROCLAMATION OF THE GOSPEL. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH ALL OF
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THAT INTO THE ENTIRE WORLD, BUT DO YOU THINK WE BEAT RADICAL
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JIHADISTS BY LOVING THEM RATHER THAN FIGHTING THEM? -I DON'T
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THINK SO. I KNOW SO FOR A FACT. -YOU KNOW SO? -WITH THE LOVE
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OF GOD. -AND TELL ME THE FACT THAT YOU KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T
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UNDERSTAND THAT FACT. EDUCATE ME. I'M ALL EARS. -WELL, YEAH,
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I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SPECIAL SPIRITUAL THING THAT YOU'VE GOT
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TO DO. THAT YOU'VE GOT TO KNOW. -WELL, IT'S A SPECIAL SPIRITUAL
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THING THAT YOU HAVE AND NOBODY ELSE DOES? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU
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THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE, EXPLAIN TO ME THE SPECIAL
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SPIRITUAL THING, CAUSE I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND IT. -OPEN
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YOUR HEART AND OPEN YOUR MIND. -SO HOLD IT, I BELIEVE THAT
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JESUS IS THE MESSIAH, THE SAVIOR OF MANKIND. BUT I DON'T THINK
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THAT MEANS WE DON'T DEFEND OURSELVES AND ATTACK AN ENEMY
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THAT IS ATTACKING US. AND YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A SPECIAL SPIRITUAL
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THING THAT IF YOU LOVE THEM, THEY'LL STOP DOING THIS. -OH,
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YES. YES. I THINK THAT, -THE CONVERSATION IS NOW OVER. THANK
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YOU FOR LISTENING. I WILL PUT YOU WITH LORETTA LYNCH IN THE
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LAND, JORDAN, OF THE ABSURD. -YEAH, AND THE WHOLE EYE FOR AN
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EYE ANALOGY IS INCORRECT HERE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE NEED TO
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TOTALLY DEFEAT A GROUP. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A TIT FOR TAT
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SITUATION. -RIGHT. -WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING IN AND
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DESTROYING ISIS, WHICH NEEDS TO BE DONE TO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY,
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TO PROTECT OUR CHRISTIAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS AROUND THE
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WORLD WHO ARE FACING THEIR THREATS. AND TO RESTORE SOME
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STABILITY TO WHAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A DIFFICULT REGION IN THE
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WORLD, BUT IS RIGHT NOW RAGING IN WAR. AND IT'S BECOMING
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INCREASINGLY INTERNATIONAL, WHICH BECOMES A THREAT TO EVEN
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MORE COUNTRIES, MORE PEOPLE, WHO WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO ABOUT
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THEIR DAILY LIFE. THE FACT IS THAT IN THESE SITUATIONS YOU CAN
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SAY LOVE YOUR ENEMY, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO DEFEAT YOUR ENEMY.
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IT IS NOT TALKING ABOUT AN EYE FOR AN EYE. THIS IS NOT A
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JUSTICE SITUATION IN A PERSONAL MATTER. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OR
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A CRIMINAL MATTER EITHER, THIS IS ABOUT FULLY DEFEATING AND
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DESTROYING AN ENEMY. AND THAT IS STILL IN LINE WITH OUR BIBLICAL
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VALUES, WITH OUR AMERICAN VALUES. IT SOMETIMES HAS TO BE
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DONE. WE DON'T LIKE IT. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DO IT. BUT
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SOMETIMES PEOPLE BRING THE WAR TO US AND WE HAVE TO RESPOND.
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-YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING THERE'S A COMMENT BY REBECCA ON
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FACEBOOK, I'M MONITORING IT RIGHT NOW, IT SAYS AS SCRIPTURES
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SAY THERE IS A TIME FOR WAR AND A TIME FOR PEACE, BUT THERE'S
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ALSO THAT TIME FOR WAR. AND I THINK THIS WHOLE IDEA OF WHAT
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THEY'RE DOING IS RIDICULOUS. DARLENE ON FACEBOOK SAYS THERE'S
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NO LOVING THESE PEOPLE. ALL THEY UNDERSTAND IS THE EVIL THAT'S A
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PART OF THEM. THEY DON'T WANT LOVE. AND THAT'S, BY THE WAY,
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THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH. I MEAN, IF YOU WERE THE MESSIAH
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YOU COULD CHANGE IT. WE'RE NOT. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A
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PHONE CALL. ROGER IS CALLING FROM COLORADO SPRINGS, CO. HI,
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ROGER. -HI. I JUST HAVE A STATEMENT TO MAKE. OUR GOODY
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TWO-SHOE PRESIDENT IS NOT LIVING IN THE REAL WORLD. AND THIS
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ISN'T THE TIME FOR LOVE. -WELL, YOU KNOW, THE FACT OF THE MATTER
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IS THE PRESIDENT HAS JUST NOMINATED FOR THE AFRICOM
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COMMANDER, THANN, LET'S GO BACK OVER THIS, SOMEONE THAT IS
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ACKNOWLEDGING, DO WE HAVE THE LINDSEY GRAHAM COMMENTS? LET ME
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PLAY THIS IS SENATOR GRAHAM TALKING TO HIM. -FLY IN LIBYA.
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-THE ANSWER IS YES, IF THERE IS A TARGET THAT IS AN IMMINENT
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THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES. -OKAY. IS ISIL AN IMMINENT
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THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES? -YES. -IS ISIL IN LIBYA?
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-YES. -HOW MANY SORTIES HAVE WE FLOWN IN LIBYA? -TO MY
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KNOWLEDGE, NONE AT THIS TIME. -THAT MAKES NO SENSE, THEN,
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DOES IT? -IT DOES NOT. -THIS IS THE NOMINEE FOR THE PRESIDENT
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FOR AFRICOM. THANN? -AND HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE
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PRESIDENT'S STRATEGY IS. AND HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE
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PRESIDENT'S STRATEGY IS, JAY, AFTER ACKNOWLEDGING, -BECAUSE
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HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE. -YEAH, RIGHT, BUT AFTER ACKNOWLEDGING
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THAT THE THREAT IN LIBYA IS, INDEED, IMMINENT. LISTEN, TO GO
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BACK TO THE LAST CALLER'S POINT, I AM ALL ABOUT THE GOAL OF
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SPREADING THE LOVE OF CHRIST AROUND THE WORLD. BUT IT IS THE
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SACRED DUTY OF THE AMERICAN COMMANDER IN CHIEF TO DEFEND ITS
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CITIZENS. AND HIS NOMINEE TO LEAD THIS EFFORT IN AFRICA HAS
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JUST TESTIFIED THAT THERE IS AN IMMINENT THREAT TO THE CITIZENS
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AND YET, THIS PRESIDENT'S STRATEGY, JAY, AND THESE ARE THE
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DIRECT WORDS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE, IS TO SQUEEZE ISIS, TO
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SQUEEZE THEM. NOT TO CRUSH THEM, BUT TO SQUEEZE THEM. IT'S TIME
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FOR A PROFESSIONAL COMMANDER IN CHIEF AND WE DON'T HAVE ONE AT
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THIS POINT. -WE'VE GOT 5 MORE MONTHS OF THIS. HERE'S WHAT HE
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SAID, THIS LT. GENERAL SAID, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OVERALL
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STRATEGY AT THIS POINT. I MEAN, A PRETTY SHOCKING STATEMENT. I'M
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GOING TO GRAB ANOTHER CALL HERE BEFORE THE BREAK. SUE, VERY
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QUICKLY. YOU'RE ON THE AIR. LINE 3. HEY, SUE. -HI, YES, CAN YOU
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HEAR ME? -WE CAN. YOU'RE GREAT. YOU'RE ON THE AIR. -I JUST
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WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT. -SURE. -I HAVE SEEN THIS
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SITUATION ESCALATE AND THIS IS THE TIME TO STRIKE. WE HAVE AN
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ARMY THAT IS MOVING BY LAND VEHICLES WITH RUBBER TIRES AND I
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THINK THAT THIS IS THE TIME WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO BE VULNERABLE.
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AND WE NEED TO STRIKE. IT IS SAD, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE.
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-AND NOBODY WANTS WAR. I MEAN, I THINK THE POINT OF WHAT WE'RE
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SAYING HERE IS NOBODY WANTS, THIS IS NOT A SITUATION, JORDAN,
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WHERE WE WANT WAR. IT'S JUST THE REALITY. THEY'VE DECLARED WAR ON
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US AND THEY'RE EXECUTING THAT WAR IN THE UNITED STATES: SAN
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BERNARDINO, FT. HOOD, ORLANDO. -YEAH. -BOSTON. WE CAN'T
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IGNORE IT. -NO, WE CAN'T IGNORE IT. IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR
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DOORSTEP FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW AND THE THREAT IS
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INCREASING. AND DON'T JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT; TAKE THE CIA
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DIRECTOR'S WORD FOR IT. JOHN BRENNAN LAST WEEKEND, HIS
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TESTIMONY, THE THREAT POSED BY, SPECIFICALLY ISIS, NOT JUST
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GENERICALLY RADICAL ISLAM, BUT THIS GROUP THE ISLAMIC STATE IS
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GROWING INTERNATIONALLY. WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE
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BATTLEFIELD HERE AND THERE, THE REPORTS WE GET OUT OF THE
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PENTAGON, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEIR INTERNATIONAL TERROR
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EFFORTS. THEY ARE EXPANDING UNDER THE PRESIDENT'S STRATEGY.
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-WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE AHEAD INCLUDING YOUR CALLS SO STAY
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WITH US.
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[MUSIC]
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JAY SEKULOW: SO LET ME
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PLAY THE SOUND FROM THE LT. GENERAL WHO'S BEING NOMINATED
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FOR AFRICAN COMMAND WHERE HE SAYS THERE'S NO STRATEGY. I WANT
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TO PLAY THAT FOR YOU RIGHT NOW. -DO WE HAVE A STRATEGY FOR
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LIBYA OR ARE WE JUST ACTING IN AN AD HOC FASHION, WHICH HAS
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BEEN THE CASE AS WE'VE WATCHED ISIS ESTABLISH, METASTISIZE, AND
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GROW IN LIBYA? -WELL, AS INDICATED, THE 2 STRATEGIC
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OBJECTIVES THAT WE DO HAVE FOR LIBYA IS TO ASSIST, -I KNOW THE
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OBJECTIVES. DO WE HAVE A STRATEGY? -TO CONTINUE TO
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SUPPORT THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY
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OVERALL GRAND STRATEGY AT THIS POINT. -OKAY. SO THERE'S THE
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GUY THAT'S BEEN NOMINATED TO RUN IT FOR LIBYA, OR AFRICA, TO GET
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RID OF ISIS. NO GRAND STARTEGY AT ALL. JOSH EARNEST,
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PRESIDENT'S SPOKESPERSON, DIFFERENT VIEW. LISTEN TO #2:
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-WHAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS DONE, HAS PUT
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FORWARD A COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY TO SQUEEZE THE ISLAMIC STATE IN
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IRAQ AND IN SYRIA, TO INHIBIT THEIR ABILITY TO RECRUIT AND
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RADICALIZE PEOPLE AROUND THE GLOBE. -MAYBE HE SHOULD SHARE
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THAT WITH THE NOMINEE FOR THE AFRICAN COMMAND BECAUSE HE
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CERTAINLY HASN'T GOTTEN THAT SAME MESSAGE. AND THIS IS
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PROBLEMATIC. IT'S NOTHING AGAINST THE GENERAL, BY THE WAY,
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I THINK HE'S BEING HONEST, AS IS JOHN BRENNAN, AS IS JIM COMEY,
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BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE NOMINEE THAT THE PRESIDENT'S
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PUTTING FORWARD HAS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT VIEW OF THIS THEN THE
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PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND HIS ADMINISTRATION. AND
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JORDAN, THAT POINTS TO A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITHIN THIS
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LAST 5 MONTHS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. -YEAH, IT'S
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THAT THERE IS NO CLEAR STRATEGY TO DEFEAT ISIS WHEREVER THEY
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ARE. SO GET OUTSIDE OF SYRIA AND IRAQ WHERE WE HAVE AN AIR
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CAMPAIGN. AND WE KNOW FROM THE TESTIMONY LAST WEEK THAT ONE
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PLACE THAT ISIS IS EXPANDING SIGNIFICANTLY IS IN NORTH
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AFRICA, LIBYA, SPECIFICALLY. AND YOU HAVE THE NEW AFRICOM
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COMMANDER PUT FORWARD BY PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THERE'S
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NOTHING GOING ON. THERE'S LITERALLY NOTHING GOING ON,
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WHICH MEANS NOT ONLY IS THERE NOT A STRATEGY, THERE'S NOT EVEN
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AN ATTEMPT TO PUSH BACK AGAINST ISIS AND WE KNOW THAT THESE
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TERROR GROUPS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY START EXPANDING OUTSIDE OF
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THEIR REGIONS WHERE THEY'VE ENGAGED IN THEIR DIRECT
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CONFLICTS LIKE ISIS HAS IN SYRIA AND IRAQ, WHEN THEY START
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LOOKING FOR PLACES TO OPERATE FROM. REMEMBER DAMASCUS USED TO
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BE A MAIN OPERATION HUB UNTIL THIS WAR FOR A GROUP LIKE
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HEZBOLLAH. IT WAS A BETTER PLACE FOR THEM TO BE. -RIGHT. -IT
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WAS TOUGHER FOR ISRAELIS TO GET TO THEM, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE THE
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CONFLICT THAT COULD ENSUE THERE. THEY HAD THE MORE DIRECT IRANIAN
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AND ASSAD PROTECTION. SO THEY WOULD OPERATE OUT OF CITIES LIKE
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DAMASCUS. WELL, NOW LIBYA, TYPCIAL SITUATION, YOU KNOW,
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IT'S BEEN KIND OF A MUDDLED MESS POST GADDAFI, AND SO IT'S A
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SAFER PLACE TO BE IF YOU ARE TRYING TO PLAN THE INTERNATIONAL
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ATTACKS. THE GUYS WHO ARE THE ISIS FIGHTERS IN SYRIA AND IRAQ
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ARE DEALING DAILY WITH BATTLEFIELD ISSUES AND AIR
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COMPAIGNS. BUT IN LIBYA, AS WE NOW KNOW, THEY'RE NOT DEALING
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WITH ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THEY JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT
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THEY'RE VERY GOOD AT, JUST THE INTERNAL PROBLEMS GOING ON IN
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LIBYA. AND BASICALLY THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE GUNS SO
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THEY'RE PRETTY SAFE THERE RIGHT NOW. -EWAL ON PERISCOPE SAYS WE
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COULDN'T HAVE WON WORLD WAR II IF WE HAD SIMPLY HUGGED THE
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NAZIS OR THE EMPIRE OF JAPAN. AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF
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TRUTH TO THAT. WE ALSO HAVE A SITUATION, THOUGH, THANN, RIGHT
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NOW WHERE THE NOMINEE'S BEING HONEST, THE ADMINISTRATION HAS A
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DIFFERENT POSITION, BUT THIS IS THE ADMINISTRATION'S NOMINEE AND
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THIS POINTS TO A FUNDAMENTAL GOVERNANCE PROBLEM. THANN
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BENNETT: WELL, I LIKE THE WAY THE GENERAL PUT IT. HE SAID THAT
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THERE WAS AN OBJECTIVE BUT NO STRATEGY TO CARRY IT OUT. AND
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WHERE HAVE WE SEEN THAT BEFORE, JAY? THE OBJECTIVE TO CONTAIN
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ISIS, BUT OH, BY THE WAY, THEY SPREAD TO PARIS. THEN THEY
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SPREAD TO SAN BERNARDINO. THEN THEY SPREAD TO ORLANDO. THE
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CONTAINMENT STRATEGY HAS FAILED. SO WHAT DOES THIS ADMINISTRATION
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DO? THEY DON'T CHANGE THE OBJECTIVE OR THE STRATEGY, JAY,
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THEY JUST CHANGE THE WORD. NOW WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CONTAIN
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ISIS, WE'RE TRYING TO SQUEEZE THEM. -YEAH. -AND WE'RE TRYING
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TO LOVE THEM OUT OF EXISTENCE. JAY, IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO
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WORK. -BUT WE CAN LOVE THEM. IF WE LOVE THEM, MAYBE THEY'LL LOVE
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US BACK. AND THAT'S A THEORY. WHICH DARRELL, FROM GREENVILLE,
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SC, TENDS TO AGREE WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL I GUESS AND
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DISAGREES WITH ME. IT'S A FREE COUNTRY. DARRELL, GO AHEAD.
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-YEAH, I THINK IT'S A NARROW APPROACH TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO
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LOVE THEM WITH OPEN ARMS BUT LOVE ALSO REQUIRES RESILIENCY,
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COMMITMENT AND THE RESOLVE TO CARRY OUT THOSE GOALS. AND YOU
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KNOW, YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT, BUT I THINK APPLYING
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SANCTIONS, CONTINUING TO APPLY THOSE SANCTIONS AGAINST THOSE
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STATES THAT SUPPORT ISIS, ALONG WITH INTRODUCING THE FORCES IN
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THE AREA OF OPERATIONS WHERE THEY'RE AFFECTIVE. THAT'S WHAT
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HE'S DOING. NOW, IF YOU WANT TO -I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A
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FREE PASS, AND DARRELL, I APPRECIATE YOU CALLING, I'M NOT
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GOING TO GIVE YOU A FREE PASS ON THE SANCTIONS ISSUE BECAUSE THE
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PRESIDENT JUST LIFTED THE SANCTIONS ON THE LARGEST STATE
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SPONSOR OF TERROR IN THE WORLD. AND THAT IS THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC
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OF IRAN. -I AGREE. BUT THAT WAS IN ACCORD WITH NEGOTIATIONS FOR
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JUST A RECENT ARMS DEAL. SO -WELL, THAT RECENT ARMS DEAL,
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YOU'VE GOT THE IRANIANS, THE RUSSIANS, AND THE SYRIANS IN
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CAHOOTS. THIS DOES NOT BODE WELL FOR THE REGION. IT DOES NOT BODE
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WELL FOR ISRAEL AND IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T BODE WELL FOR THE UNITED
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STATES. SO I MEAN, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. I THINK WHERE YOU
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AND I HAVE A DISAGREEMENT, IT'S A FREE COUNTRY, WE CAN DISAGREE,
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THIS POLICY IS ABSURD. AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED
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STATES GOING DOWN TO ORLANDO AND SAYING, IN THE LIGHT OF THAT
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TERROR ATTACK, WE CAN WIN THIS BY HUMILITY AND LOVE. I'M
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PLAYING IT AGAIN. I WANT EVERYBODY TO HEAR IT, I LIKE
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LAYING OUT EVIDENCE, THIS IS HER OWN WORDS. TELL ME IF YOU AGREE,
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DARRELL, ONCE YOU HEAR THEM. -OUR MOST EEFECTIVE RESPONSE TO
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TERROR AND TO HATRED IS COMPASSION, IT'S UNITY, AND IT'S
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LOVE. -OUR MOST EFFECTIVE RESPONSE TO TERROR IS
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COMPASSION, UNITY, AND LOVE. DARRELL, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT?
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-I BELIEVE THAT WE UPHOLD THE IDEALS AND THAT WE, -NO, NO,
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THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION. DO YOU BELIEVE OUR MOST EFFECTIVE
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COMBATING OF TERRORISM IS COMPASSION, UNITY, AND LOVE? DO
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YOU BELIEVE THAT IS A CORRECT STATEMENT? -NO, NOT IN THAT
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CONTEXT, NO I DON'T. -AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK SHE MADE,
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AND DARRELL, THAT'S WHERE I THINK, I UNDERSTAND THE
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HEARTFELT NATURE OF WHAT SHE'S TRYING TO SAY, BUT THOSE
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STATEMENTS ONLY ENCOURAGE OUR ENEMIES BECAUSE IT SHOWS
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FUNDAMENTAL WEAKNESS. AND JORDAN, THAT'S ONE THING WE
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SHOULD NOT BE PROJECTING RIGHT NOW, WHICH, UNFORTUNATELY, WE
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ARE. -YEAH, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE PAST
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CONFLICTS THAT THE U.S. HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN ON A LARGE SCALE,
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OBVIOUSLY, ULTIMATELY, YOU DO WANT TO RECONCILE. SO THAT'S
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WHERE THAT LOVE AND COMPASSION I THINK IS UNIQUE EVEN TO OUR
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COUNTRY AND BECAUSE OF JUDEO-CHRISTIAN VALUES. THAT'S
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WHY WE HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH GERMANY AND JAPAN. IT TOOK
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TIME BUT WE HAVE THOSE NOW. THAT'S AN AFTER THE FACT. THAT'S
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AFTER YOU DEFEAT THE THREAT. AND ON THIS THREAT, WHICH IS
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DIFFERENT THAN EVEN THOSE, THESE ARE NOT ENLISTED SOLDIERS IN THE
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SENSE THAT THEY'RE FIGHTING FOR THEIR COUNTRY. THESE ARE PEOPLE
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WHO ARE ACTIVELY JOINING UP, TRAVELING FROM AROUND THE WORLD,
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TO ENGAGE IN THIS BATTLE. AND THEY DO NOT MIND BEING KILLED.
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THEIR ULTIMATE GOAL IS SUICIDE ATTACKS, ETC. SO OUR #1 WAY TO
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DEFEAT THIS, THE BEST WAY TO DEFEAT THIS IS TO KILL THE
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ENEMY. IT'S JUST AN UNFORTUNATE REALITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
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TO KILL THESE INDIVIDUALS TO DEFEAT THEM. LOVE IS NOT GOING
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TO CARRY OUT VICTORY. LOVE IS HOW YOU RECONCILE ONCE THIS
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CONFLICT IS OVER -VERY GOOD POINT. -WITH THOSE INDIVIDUALS
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WHO CAN GO BACK INTO NORMAL SOCIETY, WHICH IS NOT EASY IN
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THE MIDDLE EAST BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE WANT TO
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DO ULTIMATELY. -OUR FRIEND ANDREW WHITE, CERTAINLY WHO
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MINISTERS IN THIS REGION AND IS FULL OF LOVE AND COMPASSION BUT
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KNOWS THAT'S NOT THE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO DEFEAT THIS ENEMY. TAKE
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A LISTEN: WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THREAT OF ISIS, WHEN YOU FIRST,
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WHEN ISIS FIRST RAISED ITS HEAD, I HAD YOU IN AN INTERVIEW IN
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JERUSALEM. YOU SAID THIS IS A GROUP THAT YOU CANNOT, AND
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YOU'RE A GUY THAT DEALS WITH RECONCILIATION AND NEGOTIATION,
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THAT THIS WAS NOT A GROUP YOU COULD NEGOTIATE WITH. -YOU
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CAN'T AT ALL. I AM A GREAT BELIEVER IN MEETING WITH
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ENEMIES. I MEET WITH BAD PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. I CALL THEM THE
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BAD GUYS. AND I INVITED THE BAD GUYS FROM ISIS TO COME AND HAVE
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LUNCH WITH ME. AND THEY SAID IF WE COME TO YOU, WE'LL KILL YOU.
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SO THEY DIDN'T COME. YOU CAN'T ENGAGE. THESE PEOPLE ARE SO
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EVIL, THESE TERRORISTS ARE SO EXTREME THAT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO
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ENGAGE WITH THEM. -YOU KNOW, I WAS, LAST YEAR WE WERE AT
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OXFORD, WE HAVE OUR OXFORD CENTER FOR THE STUDY OF LAW AND
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PUBLIC POLICY, AND WE HAD A PROGRAM THAT WE WERE INVOLVED IN
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AT EXETER COLLEGE AND HARRIS MANCHESTER, AND IT WAS
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INTERESTING BECAUSE THE TUTOR, THE PROFESSOR, THAT WAS THE HEAD
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OF THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM WHERE I WAS GIVING PAPERS, AND OTHERS
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WERE AS WELL, IS A GUY THAT'S VERY MUCH A NEGOTIATOR, AND
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POLITICALLY LEFT OF CENTER. BUT HE SAID THAT WHEN IT COMES TO
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ISIS, HE'S THE ONE WHO TOLD ME THERE'S ONE WAY TO DEAL WITH
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THEM, CRUSH THEM. DO YOU SHARE THAT SENTIMENT? THAT THEY HAVE
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TO BE ELIMINATED AS A THREAT? -SADLY, YES. IN THE NICE WORLD,
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WORKING WITH PEACE RECONCILIATION AND FORGIVENESS,
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I STILL SAY TO MY PEOPLE WE MUST PRAY FOR THEM. WE MUST PRAY THAT
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THEY CHANGE. BUT I HAVE SEEN NO CHANGE. AND UNLESS THEY ARE
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REMOVED, UNLESS THEY ARE OVERPOWERED, THEY WILL DEFEAT US
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TOTALLY. -FOLKS, THAT'S GOING TO DO IT FOR THE BROADCAST THIS
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WEEK. AGAIN AS WE SAY EACH AND EVERY WEEK, WE WANT TO THANK THE
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ENTIRE TBN FAMILY BECAUSE WE'RE ON THIS BROADCAST EACH AND EVERY
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WEEK AND WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE AIRTIME. THAT ALLOWS US TO
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HAVE MORE LAWYERS IN THE FIELD, WE HAVE MORE LAWYERS ENGAGED
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AROUND THE GLOBE, BUT WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO BRING YOU THIS
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INFORMATION. SO PRAY FOR AND SUPPORT THE GREAT WORK AT TBN.
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AND PRAY FOR OUR LAWYERS HERE AND OUR TEAM AT THE ACLJ. WE'LL
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SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.
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