Kirk Cameron is joined by award-winning actor Gary Sinise celebrating the independence of our country and how we can continue to support and honor our veterans.
      
      
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          Takeaways with Kirk Cameron | Gary Sinise: Celebrating Our Freedoms & Supporting our Veterans | Takeaways With Kirk Cameron | June 30, 2025
            - Kirk cameron: what do you appreciate most about
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 - Our country?
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 - Think about all we take for granted living in the land
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 - Of the free and the home of the brave.
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 - God has truly blessed america and it's good to take a moment
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 - And be thankful for the many freedoms we have as we celebrate
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 - Our upcoming independence day.
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 - As we commemorate this occasion, we're gonna talk with award
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 - Winning actor and humanitarian gary sinise about his commitment
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 - And support over the years to our country's military personnel
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 - And first responders.
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 - Let's get to it right now on "takeaways."
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 - Gary sinise: we can never do enough for the men and women who
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 - Serve our country because where would we be if nobody wanted to
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 - Put on the uniform and defend us?
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 - Kirk: i'm so excited to welcome award-winning actor and
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 - Humanitarian gary sinise to "takeaways."
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 - Gary's stage, film, and television career has spanned
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 - More than four decades.
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 - His portrayal of lieutenant dan taylor in the landmark film
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 - "forrest gump" formed an enduring connection with
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 - Servicemen and women all throughout the
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 - Military community.
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 - Gary stood as an advocate on behalf of america's service
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 - Members for over 40 years and he's with us today as we look
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 - Forward to celebrating our own upcoming independence day.
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 - Gary, thanks so much for joining us on "takeaways."
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 - Gary: thanks for having me, kirk.
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 - Kirk: you know, i have a memory of the last time that we met and
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 - We were at an air force base in camarillo, california, i believe
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 - That's where it was near point magoo.
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 - And the blue angels were there and there was another group.
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 - I can't remember exactly who they were, they were like red
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 - And white planes.
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 - And they were doing this like this.
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 - Gary: the thunderbird.
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 - Kirk: the thunderbirds, that's right.
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 - And they were doing these amazing formations and your
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 - Band, lieutenant dan band was there and we got front row seats
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 - And you let us stay there in your box and it was awesome.
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 - I just...
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 - Gary: that's right, yeah, it was the air show out there.
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 - We've played there two or three times before.
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 - Kirk: and the music was awesome.
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 - I mean, the planes were awesome and then the music was awesome,
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 - The food was great, and people were so enthusiastic
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 - And grateful.
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 - It made me feel proud to be an american.
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 - Gary: yeah, that's a great event there.
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 - It was, you know, i love playing the air shows because the people
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 - That go to the air shows are just great, great americans.
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 - They're very patriotic themselves and the air shows you
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 - Just feel something.
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 - You know, when you see the blue angels flying and the
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 - Thunderbirds flying and they're doing all kinds of crazy things
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 - And the bands are playing and the music is playing,
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 - It's wonderful.
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 - It lifts you up.
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 - Kirk: it really does.
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 - Well, i've been looking forward to talking with you.
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 - Independence day is coming up and you've had a lot of
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 - Experience with military veterans in your own
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 - Family, right?
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 - You have relatives, uncles, grandparents.
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 - Can you give us a little of the background of that?
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 - Gary: yeah, yeah, many family members going all the--i had
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 - A--my grandfather served in world war i, great uncle in
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 - World war i as well.
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 - Kirk: world war i, wow.
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 - Gary: yeah, both in the army.
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 - And then my grandfather met my grandmother at a military base
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 - In rockford, illinois, and she was an army nurse and they had
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 - Three sons.
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 - Two of them went to world war ii, my two uncles and then my
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 - Dad served in the navy during the korean war.
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 - Then i met my wife.
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 - She has got multiple military members on her side of the
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 - Family, vietnam era and cold war era.
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 - And also a nephew who served in afghanistan.
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 - So a lot of military in the family.
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 - So a lot of what i'm doing, you know, it kind of just generates
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 - From the family and then just spreads out from there.
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 - Kirk: yeah, i've got a love for my grandfather who's passed away
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 - Now, but he was a navy corpsman and he was deployed with the
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 - Fourth marine division in world war ii and was on the island of
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 - Iwo jima.
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 - And i carry his driver's license in my wallet.
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 - And all the stories he would tell us and how one time we went
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 - On to google earth and showed grandpa the pillbox that he dove
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 - Into on the island of tinian during the war that saved his
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 - Life when they were shelling the beaches from up above.
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 - And his eyes just went like this because he hadn't seen that
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 - Since he was 17-years-old and he's like 85.
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 - And it was just, it was amazing.
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 - So, memorial day, veterans day, these are special times for us.
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 - Gary: my uncle jerry was on a ship in the pacific supporting
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 - The marines who were going into iwo jima at that time.
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 - So they were there at the same time, probably.
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 - Kirk: can you just share a little bit about your
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 - Brother-in-law's time in the vietnam war, how that
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 - Particularly affected and shaped your views toward veterans?
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 - Gary: yeah, three.
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 - My wife's two brothers, her older brother was a west
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 - Point graduate.
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 - Two tours in vietnam in the infantry.
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 - And then the younger of the two brothers was a helicopter pilot,
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 - Combat helicopter pilot in vietnam, 800 combat hours.
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 - And then my wife, my wife's sister, twin sister, fraternal
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 - Twin sister, she went into the army and married a vietnam
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 - Veteran who was a combat medic in vietnam.
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 - And i got to know them pretty, pretty well.
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 - Two of them are gone now, but i got to know them all pretty well
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 - And they really opened my eyes a lot to what it was like to serve
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 - In vietnam and then come home when the nation was very divided
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 - Over that war and the vietnam veteran kind of got c-- on
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 - And it was a difficult time.
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 - And i'll tell you that, just learning from them back in the
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 - '80s, early mid '70s and early '80s, it gave me a respect for
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 - Our vietnam veterans and an empathy and a desire to do
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 - Something to support our vietnam veterans.
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 - So that's when i really started jumping in back in the early
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 - '80s and helping our vietnam veterans out.
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 - Kirk: yeah, what was that tom cruise movie that was about the
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 - Vietnam war, "born in the us?"
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 - Gary: that's called "born on the fourth of july."
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 - Kirk: "born on the fourth of july."
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 - Gary: yeah, yeah, many vietnam movies that came out kind of
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 - Late '70s, early '80s.
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 - And you know what?
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 - It's interesting when you look at a lot of the films that came
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 - Out, like, well, let's say "platoon", for example, charlie
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 - Sheen, remember the end of "platoon", you know, the big bet
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 - Battle, a lot of people get killed.
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 - Charlie gets on the helicopter and he's taken off and the
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 - Camera's on his face and he's looking down and all these
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 - People are killed.
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 - And you just felt like this guy is gonna have a really rough
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 - Time coming home, you know.
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 - And so many of the films back then about vietnam, the vietnam
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 - Veteran and the experience, you always kind of felt like that.
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 - Like that veteran's just not gonna be okay.
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 - And then "forrest gump" came along.
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 - And you have the story of a vietnam veteran who actually we
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 - Hadn't seen that kind of story before.
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 - A happy ending of somebody who went off to war, gets wounded,
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 - Has a lot of post-traumatic stress, goes through alcohol
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 - Abuse and darkness and all that, but at the end of that story,
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 - He's standing up, he's moving on.
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 - He's a wealthy businessman.
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 - He's doing all right.
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 - And, you know, i think that resonated with a lot of vietnam
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 - Veterans who went through that.
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 - You know, they actually were okay when they came home and
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 - They were able to move on.
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 - Sure there's a lot that, you know, have always struggled, but
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 - We hadn't seen the story of people that were able to kind of
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 - Overcome that and move forward.
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 - Kirk: i know early on in your career as an actor you started
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 - Out doing plays as veterans, military veterans, and that led
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 - To movie roles as veterans.
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 - Talk about that.
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 - Gary: i think you're talking--yeah, i started
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 - A company with my pals called steppenwolf in chicago.
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 - And steppenwolf, very successful, it's over 50 years
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 - Old now, just celebrated his 50 year anniversary.
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 - Back in the early '80s, because of the vietnam veterans on my
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 - Wife's side of the family, i wanted to find a piece of
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 - Material to direct that would speak to the vietnam
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 - Veteran experience.
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 - So i found this play that was written by a group of
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 - Vietnam veterans.
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 - They were actually performing it in los angeles back in 1980.
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 - They had gotten together, only a couple of them were actors.
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 - One of them, one of the guys just put an ad in the paper,
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 - Said, "i'm looking for vietnam veterans.
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 - I want to make a play."
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 - And so a bunch of veterans came together and they all talked
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 - About their experiences.
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 - They made this play and then they started performing it
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 - On stage.
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 - And i read about it.
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 - So i flew out from chicago to see it and i asked them to let
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 - Me do it.
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 - Eventually, they gave me the rights to do it in chicago.
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 - We started rehearsing it in 1983.
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 - It went up in 1984.
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 - And veterans from everywhere were finding out about it and we
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 - Created a night that was free for veterans.
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 - And that started a program at the steppenwolf that has lived
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 - On for 40 years now where every single play we do at
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 - Steppenwolf, the first audience that comes in and sees it for
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 - Free, are our veterans and it's called our vet's night.
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 - That's what we call it.
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 - It came from the days when i was working with vietnam veterans
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 - In chicago.
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 - Kirk: and then obviously that led to lieutenant dan and
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 - "forrest gump" and the role that you played there.
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 - And can you talk a little bit about being lieutenant dan and
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 - How that has continued to shape your attitude of service toward
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 - Veterans and military members.
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 - Gary: that play and the vietnam veterans on my wife's side of
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 - Family, that really started something for me back in
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 - The '80s.
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 - I just felt a lot of compassion.
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 - And i felt badly, you know, for what happened to our vietnam
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 - Veterans when they came home from war.
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 - It was a divided time in our nation over the war where there
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 - Were a lot of protests, there was a draft going on, you know,
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 - It was a difficult time.
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 - We're losing, you know, 500 to 1000, you know, service members
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 - A week were getting killed.
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 - It was a difficult time.
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 - And the vietnam veteran kind of got caught in the middle
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 - Of that.
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 - So i wanted to do something to support them.
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 - And so i started supporting them in chicago.
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 - And ten years later, ten years goes by and then i have this
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 - Opportunity to audition to play a vietnam veteran in "forrest
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 - Gump" and having veterans in my family, having been through
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 - Those experiences in chicago, i just wanted to like, i wanted
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 - That part that badly.
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 - I was lucky to get it.
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 - That led to me starting to work with our wounded because
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 - Lieutenant dan was a wounded service member and a soldier and
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 - So i started working with our wounded through the disabled
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 - American veterans organization.
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 - And those are the early seeds that were planted that
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 - Eventually led to, you know, kind of a full-time mission and
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 - The creation of a full-time foundation.
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 - Kirk: that's awesome.
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 - Gary: yeah, it's good, it's good stuff.
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 - Kirk: that's awesome.
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 - But, you know, i just have a sense about you.
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 - We don't know each other that well, but there's an
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 - Authenticity about you and just a realness.
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 - I don't feel like i'm talking to an actor who does some good
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 - Benevolent things, but a top shelf human being who likes to
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 - Act on the side too and i'm really, really honored by that.
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 - Listen, after the break, gary's gonna share more about his
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 - Efforts to support our military veterans and first responders
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 - Through his work at his foundation.
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 - So stay with us.
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 - Kirk: welcome back.
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 - We're talking with gary sinise and his commitment in supporting
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 - All those who protect our freedoms and serve our country.
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 - Gary, i mentioned earlier about seeing your band and listening.
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 - And man, i didn't wanna leave.
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 - It was so good.
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 - You have so many great talented people surrounding you in
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 - That band.
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 - And man, it was just awesome.
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 - Can you tell us.
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 - Gary: i'm no fool.
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 - I'm the only, i'm the only amateur non-professional
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 - Musician in the band.
 - 00:12:07.697 --> 00:12:09.065
 - Kirk: i don't know about that, no, no, no.
 - 00:12:09.065 --> 00:12:12.268
 - Everybody was just fantastic.
 - 00:12:12.268 --> 00:12:14.003
 - And give us the story.
 - 00:12:14.003 --> 00:12:15.738
 - How did the lieutenant dan band get started?
 - 00:12:15.738 --> 00:12:18.140
 - Gary: it was just, you know, i was doing a play in chicago back
 - 00:12:18.140 --> 00:12:24.947
 - In the late '90s.
 - 00:12:24.947 --> 00:12:26.983
 - And the guy who composed the music for the play, his name was
 - 00:12:26.983 --> 00:12:34.056
 - Kimo williams, and he heard that i had played bass.
 - 00:12:34.056 --> 00:12:37.793
 - And he was a bass player, but he liked to play guitar too.
 - 00:12:37.793 --> 00:12:40.963
 - So he invited me over to his house to just kind of jam when
 - 00:12:40.963 --> 00:12:45.034
 - The show was over.
 - 00:12:45.034 --> 00:12:46.435
 - And he invited some of his musician pals and we started--we
 - 00:12:46.435 --> 00:12:49.805
 - Would get together every once in a while and jam.
 - 00:12:49.805 --> 00:12:52.842
 - And then september 11 happened and i wanted to, you know,
 - 00:12:52.842 --> 00:12:56.879
 - Having been involved with veterans in the '80s and '90s,
 - 00:12:56.879 --> 00:13:00.716
 - I wanted to get involved and support the men and women who
 - 00:13:00.716 --> 00:13:03.753
 - Were deploying to iraq and afghanistan.
 - 00:13:03.753 --> 00:13:05.888
 - And so i started visiting them and i would shake hands, take
 - 00:13:05.888 --> 00:13:09.558
 - Pictures, go out there and just sit with them and visit the war
 - 00:13:09.558 --> 00:13:14.063
 - Zones and all of that.
 - 00:13:14.063 --> 00:13:16.532
 - And the first tour i was on, kid rock was on that tour and lee
 - 00:13:16.532 --> 00:13:21.070
 - Ann womack and others that were performing, and i was just like
 - 00:13:21.070 --> 00:13:25.107
 - Lieutenant dan shaking hands and stuff, tagging along.
 - 00:13:25.107 --> 00:13:30.146
 - So i just kept doing tours and i finally talked to--i said to the
 - 00:13:30.146 --> 00:13:34.984
 - Uso folks, "you know, i play a little bit and i have some
 - 00:13:34.984 --> 00:13:37.887
 - People that i play with.
 - 00:13:37.887 --> 00:13:39.355
 - Could i take them on a tour?"
 - 00:13:39.355 --> 00:13:41.390
 - And eventually they gave in and said, okay, and they let me take
 - 00:13:41.390 --> 00:13:44.894
 - 'em on a tour.
 - 00:13:44.894 --> 00:13:46.262
 - And i started touring with the band 2004.
 - 00:13:46.262 --> 00:13:49.932
 - February of 2004, we went overseas.
 - 00:13:49.932 --> 00:13:53.069
 - And now we've done almost 600 shows on military bases and
 - 00:13:53.069 --> 00:13:56.572
 - Military hospitals.
 - 00:13:56.572 --> 00:13:57.940
 - The band's part of my foundation.
 - 00:13:57.940 --> 00:13:59.875
 - You know, we do about 25 to 30 shows a year on military bases
 - 00:13:59.875 --> 00:14:04.647
 - And the hospitals we have for years now.
 - 00:14:04.647 --> 00:14:07.950
 - Kirk: that's awesome.
 - 00:14:07.950 --> 00:14:09.285
 - Gary: oh, it's a great band.
 - 00:14:09.285 --> 00:14:10.653
 - And everybody, like i said, i mean, you heard it there,
 - 00:14:10.653 --> 00:14:12.121
 - The singers are all great, the musicians are all great.
 - 00:14:12.121 --> 00:14:15.091
 - Kirk: top shelf.
 - 00:14:15.091 --> 00:14:16.459
 - Gary: we play great songs.
 - 00:14:16.459 --> 00:14:17.793
 - Everybody loves the music we play.
 - 00:14:17.793 --> 00:14:19.161
 - Kirk: absolutely, yeah.
 - 00:14:19.161 --> 00:14:20.496
 - I mean, it gives you this great just feeling of, you know,
 - 00:14:20.496 --> 00:14:22.264
 - You love your country.
 - 00:14:22.264 --> 00:14:23.632
 - It just fills your heart with gratitude.
 - 00:14:23.632 --> 00:14:24.967
 - It's like faith, family, country, freedom.
 - 00:14:24.967 --> 00:14:27.236
 - It's actually--
 - 00:14:27.236 --> 00:14:28.571
 - Gary: the whole thing is about lifting people up.
 - 00:14:28.571 --> 00:14:30.239
 - I mean, that's what my whole mission is.
 - 00:14:30.239 --> 00:14:32.475
 - You know, whether i'm walking into a hospital room or,
 - 00:14:32.475 --> 00:14:36.245
 - You know, rocking out in front of a crowd with a band.
 - 00:14:36.245 --> 00:14:38.948
 - It's all about just lifting people up and making them
 - 00:14:38.948 --> 00:14:41.417
 - Feel better.
 - 00:14:41.417 --> 00:14:42.785
 - Kirk: and as part of of your efforts to support our troops
 - 00:14:42.785 --> 00:14:44.820
 - And our military and veterans, you've established the gary
 - 00:14:44.820 --> 00:14:47.056
 - Sinise foundation, as you said.
 - 00:14:47.056 --> 00:14:48.691
 - Can you talk to us a little bit more about what the foundation
 - 00:14:48.691 --> 00:14:50.693
 - Is and what all you do?
 - 00:14:50.693 --> 00:14:52.761
 - Gary: the foundation kind of grew out of a lot of the things
 - 00:14:52.761 --> 00:14:55.664
 - I was doing in the '80s and '90s and early 2000 post september 11
 - 00:14:55.664 --> 00:15:02.638
 - And all of that.
 - 00:15:02.638 --> 00:15:05.074
 - You know, like i said, i got involved with veterans in the
 - 00:15:05.074 --> 00:15:07.977
 - '80s, i have veterans in my family, then i played the
 - 00:15:07.977 --> 00:15:11.647
 - Veteran in the '90s.
 - 00:15:11.647 --> 00:15:13.015
 - I got involved with supporting our wounded.
 - 00:15:13.015 --> 00:15:15.818
 - There's an organization called the d-a-v, disabled
 - 00:15:15.818 --> 00:15:18.354
 - American veterans.
 - 00:15:18.354 --> 00:15:20.389
 - They invited me to their national convention in 1994 and
 - 00:15:20.389 --> 00:15:24.426
 - I walk out on the stage.
 - 00:15:24.426 --> 00:15:26.228
 - They wanted to give me an award for playing lieutenant dan.
 - 00:15:26.228 --> 00:15:29.265
 - I walk out on the stage.
 - 00:15:29.265 --> 00:15:30.633
 - There's 2000 wounded veterans going all the way back to world
 - 00:15:30.633 --> 00:15:33.035
 - War ii that are in the ballroom and they're all cheering.
 - 00:15:33.035 --> 00:15:36.005
 - And it was very moving and i was impacted greatly by it.
 - 00:15:36.005 --> 00:15:40.242
 - And so i wanted to support them.
 - 00:15:40.242 --> 00:15:41.844
 - And then september 11 happened and we're deploying to iraq
 - 00:15:41.844 --> 00:15:45.114
 - And afghanistan.
 - 00:15:45.114 --> 00:15:46.448
 - People are getting hurt and killed.
 - 00:15:46.448 --> 00:15:47.816
 - I raised my hand for the usl.
 - 00:15:47.816 --> 00:15:49.485
 - I start saying, "just send me out, you know, i wanna go."
 - 00:15:49.485 --> 00:15:53.222
 - And so i started visiting the troops in the war zones and
 - 00:15:53.222 --> 00:15:56.025
 - Going to the hospitals and doing all that.
 - 00:15:56.025 --> 00:15:57.993
 - I started finding other nonprofits that i could as
 - 00:15:57.993 --> 00:16:02.398
 - An actor who has a little bit of the spotlight.
 - 00:16:02.398 --> 00:16:04.400
 - I could kind of help them raise money, do psas, raise awareness
 - 00:16:04.400 --> 00:16:09.772
 - For what they were doing.
 - 00:16:09.772 --> 00:16:11.140
 - I learned a lot about all these different needs in the military
 - 00:16:11.140 --> 00:16:14.510
 - And veteran first responder communities by getting involved
 - 00:16:14.510 --> 00:16:17.813
 - In a lot of other nonprofits.
 - 00:16:17.813 --> 00:16:19.481
 - And then, you know, ten, 12 years down the road, it just
 - 00:16:19.481 --> 00:16:23.786
 - Became clear that i should start my own organization.
 - 00:16:23.786 --> 00:16:26.889
 - So we launched the gary sinise foundation in 2011.
 - 00:16:26.889 --> 00:16:29.858
 - We're just about at the end of our 15th year.
 - 00:16:29.858 --> 00:16:33.562
 - We've raised hundreds of millions of dollars and deployed
 - 00:16:33.562 --> 00:16:35.965
 - It all over the place to help people.
 - 00:16:35.965 --> 00:16:38.000
 - Kirk: wow, that's awesome.
 - 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:39.368
 - Gary: it's a good thing.
 - 00:16:39.368 --> 00:16:40.703
 - Kirk: that's so good.
 - 00:16:40.703 --> 00:16:42.571
 - If you don't mind me asking a personal question, what are some
 - 00:16:42.571 --> 00:16:46.475
 - Of the things that in all of your visits with military
 - 00:16:46.475 --> 00:16:49.178
 - Members that you admire personally about servicemen
 - 00:16:49.178 --> 00:16:53.249
 - And servicewomen?
 - 00:16:53.249 --> 00:16:55.251
 - Gary: many are very selfless.
 - 00:16:55.251 --> 00:16:57.720
 - You know, they join the military for various reasons.
 - 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:01.657
 - Not everybody joins for the same reason.
 - 00:17:01.657 --> 00:17:04.226
 - They have different reasons for joining.
 - 00:17:04.226 --> 00:17:06.595
 - But as time goes on and you start to get to know people that
 - 00:17:06.595 --> 00:17:11.200
 - Are involved in military life, they've dedicated their
 - 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:16.238
 - Lives now.
 - 00:17:16.238 --> 00:17:17.606
 - Some people come in, they do their four years and they move
 - 00:17:17.606 --> 00:17:19.808
 - On, you know, but others make a career out of it.
 - 00:17:19.808 --> 00:17:22.278
 - And many of them that do, come from a long line of
 - 00:17:22.278 --> 00:17:26.382
 - Family history.
 - 00:17:26.382 --> 00:17:27.750
 - You know, my dad was in, my brother was in, my uncle was in,
 - 00:17:27.750 --> 00:17:30.552
 - You know, all that and they're following in the family
 - 00:17:30.552 --> 00:17:32.921
 - Foot footsteps.
 - 00:17:32.921 --> 00:17:34.623
 - So they're there to serve.
 - 00:17:34.623 --> 00:17:37.693
 - Service above themselves.
 - 00:17:37.693 --> 00:17:39.228
 - And that's an important aspect of it.
 - 00:17:39.228 --> 00:17:42.598
 - And i grew, you know, i've grown to admire quite a few members of
 - 00:17:42.598 --> 00:17:46.635
 - The military that i've gotten to know over the years and befriend
 - 00:17:46.635 --> 00:17:50.339
 - And become like great pals with.
 - 00:17:50.339 --> 00:17:52.908
 - Some of my best friends are veterans or first responders,
 - 00:17:52.908 --> 00:17:57.212
 - Firefighters, whatever.
 - 00:17:57.212 --> 00:17:59.081
 - And they all have this kind of this thing that unifies them as
 - 00:17:59.081 --> 00:18:02.084
 - This sense that they just wanna serve something that's larger
 - 00:18:02.084 --> 00:18:07.256
 - Than their own thing.
 - 00:18:07.256 --> 00:18:08.590
 - And i admire that.
 - 00:18:08.590 --> 00:18:10.759
 - I admire that a lot.
 - 00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:12.328
 - Kirk: i do too.
 - 00:18:12.328 --> 00:18:13.662
 - I feel compelled every time i see a vet with one of those hats
 - 00:18:13.662 --> 00:18:16.865
 - On from vietnam or somewhere or with, you know, an amputated
 - 00:18:16.865 --> 00:18:22.805
 - Limb to go up to them in an airport or wherever it is and
 - 00:18:22.805 --> 00:18:25.507
 - Just thank them for their service and it gives me
 - 00:18:25.507 --> 00:18:27.576
 - Goosebumps when see 'em, you know, and i always feel
 - 00:18:27.576 --> 00:18:30.979
 - So grateful for...
 - 00:18:30.979 --> 00:18:32.348
 - Gary: i get that.
 - 00:18:32.348 --> 00:18:33.682
 - Kirk: the sacrifices that they have made.
 - 00:18:33.682 --> 00:18:36.585
 - I'm thinking of jesus who said, "greater love has no one than
 - 00:18:36.585 --> 00:18:39.855
 - This that he'll lay down his life for his friends."
 - 00:18:39.855 --> 00:18:41.390
 - And i think of the military members, particularly the combat
 - 00:18:41.390 --> 00:18:43.492
 - Soldiers who are risking their own lives to protect my freedoms
 - 00:18:43.492 --> 00:18:47.296
 - And to protect your freedoms.
 - 00:18:47.296 --> 00:18:49.631
 - Are there any particular individuals whose stories have
 - 00:18:49.631 --> 00:18:53.369
 - Really impacted you through all of your visits.
 - 00:18:53.369 --> 00:18:56.405
 - Either something that they went through or an attitude after
 - 00:18:56.405 --> 00:19:00.709
 - They went through it that has been inspiring to you?
 - 00:19:00.709 --> 00:19:05.214
 - Gary: how much time do you have? [laughing]
 - 00:19:05.214 --> 00:19:06.715
 - Kirk: just, just one.
 - 00:19:06.715 --> 00:19:08.283
 - Just one.
 - 00:19:08.283 --> 00:19:09.618
 - Pick any one.
 - 00:19:09.618 --> 00:19:10.986
 - Gary: i mean, i've met so many who have inspired me and
 - 00:19:10.986 --> 00:19:13.055
 - Motivated me to do what i'm doing.
 - 00:19:13.055 --> 00:19:15.991
 - That's, you know, if i hadn't been inspired by that,
 - 00:19:15.991 --> 00:19:18.994
 - I wouldn't have kept at it or if i hadn't felt like what i was
 - 00:19:18.994 --> 00:19:22.598
 - Doing was making an impact.
 - 00:19:22.598 --> 00:19:25.567
 - Let me talk about some of the wounded soldiers that i've met.
 - 00:19:25.567 --> 00:19:32.207
 - We build specially adapted smart technology, mortgage-free houses
 - 00:19:32.207 --> 00:19:37.079
 - For those who have been badly wounded.
 - 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:39.214
 - And i got involved in that because there was a group of
 - 00:19:39.214 --> 00:19:44.386
 - Service members who had lost, they were quadruple amputees,
 - 00:19:44.386 --> 00:19:48.457
 - Both arms and both legs.
 - 00:19:48.457 --> 00:19:50.793
 - And we started raising money to build homes, specially adapted
 - 00:19:50.793 --> 00:19:55.164
 - Homes for them.
 - 00:19:55.164 --> 00:19:56.498
 - They were gonna obviously have life challenges going forward.
 - 00:19:56.498 --> 00:20:00.836
 - I'll pick one.
 - 00:20:00.836 --> 00:20:02.171
 - I mean, the first five homes i got involved with were all
 - 00:20:02.171 --> 00:20:06.208
 - Quadruple amputees.
 - 00:20:06.208 --> 00:20:08.677
 - The first one was, i actually met at walter reed in 2009,
 - 00:20:08.677 --> 00:20:16.418
 - April of 2009.
 - 00:20:16.418 --> 00:20:18.720
 - He was the first to survive, losing both arms and both legs.
 - 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:22.658
 - His name is brendan morocco.
 - 00:20:22.658 --> 00:20:25.561
 - And i got involved in helping to raise money with a concert with
 - 00:20:25.561 --> 00:20:29.531
 - My band for brendan to build him a special house.
 - 00:20:29.531 --> 00:20:33.902
 - While i was getting ready to do that concert, there was another
 - 00:20:33.902 --> 00:20:36.271
 - Wounded marine that came in.
 - 00:20:36.271 --> 00:20:37.706
 - He had the same injury in both arms and both legs.
 - 00:20:37.706 --> 00:20:40.709
 - We built a house for him.
 - 00:20:40.709 --> 00:20:42.644
 - And we ended up then there ended up being five of them and we
 - 00:20:42.644 --> 00:20:47.049
 - Built five houses for five quadruple amputees.
 - 00:20:47.049 --> 00:20:50.986
 - And then just went from there and just started addressing the
 - 00:20:50.986 --> 00:20:54.156
 - Needs where we could of all those who were being
 - 00:20:54.156 --> 00:20:57.359
 - Catastrophically very severely injured from their service.
 - 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:01.964
 - And we didn't want them to struggle and these, you know,
 - 00:21:01.964 --> 00:21:06.602
 - These homes are specially designed to meet their needs,
 - 00:21:06.602 --> 00:21:10.572
 - To make things a lot easier for them and for their families.
 - 00:21:10.572 --> 00:21:14.142
 - Kirk: yeah, gary, how can people better support veterans in
 - 00:21:14.142 --> 00:21:19.014
 - Simple ways and how can they support the gary
 - 00:21:19.014 --> 00:21:21.383
 - Sinise foundation?
 - 00:21:21.383 --> 00:21:23.418
 - Gary: well, there are multiple organizations out there that you
 - 00:21:23.418 --> 00:21:27.489
 - Can support that are doing good things for the military.
 - 00:21:27.489 --> 00:21:30.626
 - Gary sinise foundation, i'd recommend people go to our
 - 00:21:30.626 --> 00:21:33.595
 - Website and see what we're doing.
 - 00:21:33.595 --> 00:21:35.497
 - But you know what, kirk?
 - 00:21:35.497 --> 00:21:36.832
 - What i always say to somebody is to kind of do what i did in
 - 00:21:36.832 --> 00:21:42.638
 - The beginning.
 - 00:21:42.638 --> 00:21:43.972
 - I mean, not everybody has a public platform that, you know,
 - 00:21:43.972 --> 00:21:46.475
 - You can use it to do this or that or not everybody can go to
 - 00:21:46.475 --> 00:21:51.346
 - The war zones or visit the hospitals, but there are
 - 00:21:51.346 --> 00:21:55.217
 - Veterans in every community, in every neighborhood, and every
 - 00:21:55.217 --> 00:21:58.487
 - Town and city across this country.
 - 00:21:58.487 --> 00:22:00.389
 - And there are veterans and military families who may be
 - 00:22:00.389 --> 00:22:03.792
 - Struggling and may be having some difficulties.
 - 00:22:03.792 --> 00:22:07.696
 - And i always recommend people just to do the local thing,
 - 00:22:07.696 --> 00:22:11.600
 - To start locally.
 - 00:22:11.600 --> 00:22:12.968
 - You can always donate, but if everybody in every neighborhood,
 - 00:22:12.968 --> 00:22:16.872
 - You know, every town and city, made it--took on some
 - 00:22:16.872 --> 00:22:20.542
 - Responsibility to identify and support those who have served
 - 00:22:20.542 --> 00:22:25.547
 - Our country and who may be having some challenges, the
 - 00:22:25.547 --> 00:22:30.052
 - Veteran difficulties in the veteran community would be
 - 00:22:30.052 --> 00:22:33.889
 - Greatly reduced if we all took a little bit of responsibility to
 - 00:22:33.889 --> 00:22:37.292
 - Reach out and touch these military families.
 - 00:22:37.292 --> 00:22:39.728
 - They are, after all, our freedom providers.
 - 00:22:39.728 --> 00:22:43.131
 - They sacrifice, they willingly go and put their life on the
 - 00:22:43.131 --> 00:22:47.536
 - Line for us.
 - 00:22:47.536 --> 00:22:48.870
 - They all know that that's what they're signing up for.
 - 00:22:48.870 --> 00:22:52.374
 - Sometimes they get hurt, sometimes families lose them.
 - 00:22:52.374 --> 00:22:55.744
 - And i feel like, okay, if i'm a beneficiary of what they do to
 - 00:22:55.744 --> 00:23:00.549
 - Protect us and defend us, i can do something to give back.
 - 00:23:00.549 --> 00:23:04.086
 - And i would, i would just recommend to everybody just look
 - 00:23:04.086 --> 00:23:07.489
 - Within your own town, you know, there are veterans everywhere
 - 00:23:07.489 --> 00:23:10.826
 - And they may be in need of some support and chances are they
 - 00:23:10.826 --> 00:23:15.097
 - Won't ever ask for it.
 - 00:23:15.097 --> 00:23:16.732
 - So being proactive about reaching out to them is
 - 00:23:16.732 --> 00:23:19.568
 - Something that we can do to help.
 - 00:23:19.568 --> 00:23:21.436
 - Kirk: thank you.
 - 00:23:21.436 --> 00:23:22.938
 - We're gonna talk more with gary about how we can all better
 - 00:23:22.938 --> 00:23:25.674
 - Support our veterans right after the break.
 - 00:23:25.674 --> 00:23:27.609
 - Don't go away.
 - 00:23:27.609 --> 00:23:33.482
 - Kirk: joining me now is elan sobel, the ceo of bio harvest
 - 00:23:36.918 --> 00:23:40.956
 - Sciences, the makers of vinia, the red grape circulation
 - 00:23:40.956 --> 00:23:45.127
 - Superfood that affects our blood flow, our brain, our gut health,
 - 00:23:45.127 --> 00:23:49.631
 - And every aspect of our well-being.
 - 00:23:49.631 --> 00:23:52.567
 - Elan, i'm really intrigued by bio harvest sciences and the
 - 00:23:52.567 --> 00:23:57.839
 - Fact that you have invested 17 years and over $100 million to
 - 00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:03.879
 - Innovate this product, vinia.
 - 00:24:03.879 --> 00:24:06.281
 - What is it and why is everyone so excited about it?
 - 00:24:06.281 --> 00:24:08.517
 - Elan sobel: wow, vinia is probably the best manifestation
 - 00:24:08.517 --> 00:24:12.854
 - Of how scripture and science come together.
 - 00:24:12.854 --> 00:24:15.957
 - So let's go back to creation, if you don't mind, for
 - 00:24:15.957 --> 00:24:18.827
 - A moment, kirk.
 - 00:24:18.827 --> 00:24:20.195
 - On day three of creation, god gave us 500,000 plants and each
 - 00:24:20.195 --> 00:24:25.434
 - Of those plants are like treasures.
 - 00:24:25.434 --> 00:24:28.303
 - Every plant has critical phytonutrients that are so
 - 00:24:28.303 --> 00:24:32.140
 - Important for our health and wellness.
 - 00:24:32.140 --> 00:24:34.076
 - We at bio harvest sciences have spent more than $100 million on
 - 00:24:34.076 --> 00:24:38.246
 - A technology that we call botanical synthesis.
 - 00:24:38.246 --> 00:24:41.516
 - And we're able to understand exactly where inside the plant
 - 00:24:41.516 --> 00:24:44.286
 - Are the critical cells that produce those very important
 - 00:24:44.286 --> 00:24:47.923
 - Phytonutrients for the human body.
 - 00:24:47.923 --> 00:24:50.292
 - So in the case of the red grape, we took cells from the
 - 00:24:50.292 --> 00:24:53.762
 - Red grape.
 - 00:24:53.762 --> 00:24:55.130
 - The critical cells that produce the important phytonutrients,
 - 00:24:55.130 --> 00:24:58.066
 - In this case it's the piceid resveratrol.
 - 00:24:58.066 --> 00:25:00.035
 - So in the case of vinia, we magnified the piceid resveratrol
 - 00:25:00.035 --> 00:25:04.673
 - 100 times and we're left with this amazing capsule, which has
 - 00:25:04.673 --> 00:25:09.377
 - The same amount of piceid resveratrol as 1000 red grapes,
 - 00:25:09.377 --> 00:25:12.781
 - Pretty much what we have here in the glass container and one
 - 00:25:12.781 --> 00:25:17.052
 - Bottle of red wine.
 - 00:25:17.052 --> 00:25:19.087
 - Of course, no sugar, no calories, no alcohol.
 - 00:25:19.087 --> 00:25:20.689
 - And as a science-based company, we conducted clinical trials and
 - 00:25:20.689 --> 00:25:26.394
 - We were able to demonstrate that after taking one capsule of
 - 00:25:26.394 --> 00:25:29.531
 - Vinia every single day, we increased the dilation of your
 - 00:25:29.531 --> 00:25:33.668
 - Arteries significantly.
 - 00:25:33.668 --> 00:25:35.637
 - You want that blood flow flowing 'cause more blood flow means
 - 00:25:35.637 --> 00:25:38.406
 - More oxygen and nutrients being delivered to all your body
 - 00:25:38.406 --> 00:25:41.977
 - Tissue cells and organs and that's more physical energy and
 - 00:25:41.977 --> 00:25:45.647
 - More mental alertness.
 - 00:25:45.647 --> 00:25:46.982
 - And in today's world, who doesn't need more physical
 - 00:25:46.982 --> 00:25:50.051
 - Energy and mental alertness?
 - 00:25:50.051 --> 00:25:51.386
 - Kirk: that's right. that's right.
 - 00:25:51.386 --> 00:25:53.755
 - I'm inspired by the way bio harvest sciences thinks and the
 - 00:25:53.755 --> 00:25:57.359
 - Motivation for a product like vinia.
 - 00:25:57.359 --> 00:25:59.928
 - I'm also inspired by your give back campaign that you have
 - 00:25:59.928 --> 00:26:04.232
 - Launched through vinia called vinia heroes.
 - 00:26:04.232 --> 00:26:06.768
 - Tell us about that.
 - 00:26:06.768 --> 00:26:08.136
 - Elan: it all starts with isaiah.
 - 00:26:08.136 --> 00:26:10.405
 - Isaiah talks about the nation of israel needing to be a shining
 - 00:26:10.405 --> 00:26:14.643
 - Light to all other nations.
 - 00:26:14.643 --> 00:26:16.978
 - And this is something that, you know, as a people we take very
 - 00:26:16.978 --> 00:26:20.182
 - Very seriously and it's something that we strive for all
 - 00:26:20.182 --> 00:26:22.918
 - The time.
 - 00:26:22.918 --> 00:26:24.252
 - It's something that we gotta do better and better at every
 - 00:26:24.252 --> 00:26:26.188
 - Single day and that's something that we at bio harvest sciences,
 - 00:26:26.188 --> 00:26:29.925
 - We take very very seriously as part of our own dna.
 - 00:26:29.925 --> 00:26:33.361
 - And with this mindset, i as ceo have the privilege of seeing
 - 00:26:33.361 --> 00:26:39.634
 - Every single customer review that comes into our company.
 - 00:26:39.634 --> 00:26:43.538
 - And i started to hear those beautiful stories of our
 - 00:26:43.538 --> 00:26:47.509
 - Customers that were utilizing vinia in their day to day lives,
 - 00:26:47.509 --> 00:26:52.247
 - In jobs where they served the community in ways that were just
 - 00:26:52.247 --> 00:26:56.017
 - So inspiring.
 - 00:26:56.017 --> 00:26:57.853
 - And this goes back to something culturally which is so unique
 - 00:26:57.853 --> 00:27:01.089
 - About the united states of america, which is the respect
 - 00:27:01.089 --> 00:27:03.158
 - That people have here for first response.
 - 00:27:03.158 --> 00:27:06.161
 - And when you think about it, first responders are the people
 - 00:27:06.161 --> 00:27:08.496
 - That are protecting empowering our community and building our
 - 00:27:08.496 --> 00:27:11.600
 - Community every single day.
 - 00:27:11.600 --> 00:27:13.368
 - And we started to see how first responders, firefighters, er
 - 00:27:13.368 --> 00:27:18.240
 - Personnel, veterans, military were utilizing our vinia every
 - 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:23.545
 - Single day to be able to do their jobs better, that more
 - 00:27:23.545 --> 00:27:27.849
 - Physical energy.
 - 00:27:27.849 --> 00:27:29.184
 - Think about an er, er nurse working in triage.
 - 00:27:29.184 --> 00:27:32.053
 - Need the physical energy and mental alertness you need when
 - 00:27:32.053 --> 00:27:34.756
 - You've got so many things coming at you.
 - 00:27:34.756 --> 00:27:36.491
 - And i remember reading a story about one of these amazing er
 - 00:27:36.491 --> 00:27:40.028
 - Heroes and how she was utilizing vinia to just get through such
 - 00:27:40.028 --> 00:27:44.132
 - A challenging day because of the need for more physical energy
 - 00:27:44.132 --> 00:27:46.968
 - And mental alertness coming from the better blood flow.
 - 00:27:46.968 --> 00:27:50.305
 - And i pulled the team together and i said, "look, we have to do
 - 00:27:50.305 --> 00:27:53.575
 - More to serve the community that we're doing business with every
 - 00:27:53.575 --> 00:27:57.712
 - Single day."
 - 00:27:57.712 --> 00:27:59.047
 - It's all about giving back to the community.
 - 00:27:59.047 --> 00:28:00.949
 - And we decided going back to isaiah that we need to be
 - 00:28:00.949 --> 00:28:03.418
 - A shining light and we needed to set the example here in the
 - 00:28:03.418 --> 00:28:06.354
 - United states of america.
 - 00:28:06.354 --> 00:28:07.822
 - And we decided to give all first responders a 20% discount
 - 00:28:07.822 --> 00:28:14.195
 - For life.
 - 00:28:14.195 --> 00:28:15.530
 - Kirk: for life?
 - 00:28:15.530 --> 00:28:16.898
 - Elan: so kirk, it's not one time, it's not two times,
 - 00:28:16.898 --> 00:28:18.366
 - It's not three times, it's for life.
 - 00:28:18.366 --> 00:28:20.669
 - Once you're a first responder, including veterans, you're
 - 00:28:20.669 --> 00:28:25.140
 - Getting 20% off your vinia for life.
 - 00:28:25.140 --> 00:28:27.575
 - We decided there's a critical occupation here in the united
 - 00:28:27.575 --> 00:28:31.546
 - States of america and all over the world, which really is
 - 00:28:31.546 --> 00:28:36.084
 - A catalyst for building the value system of our children.
 - 00:28:36.084 --> 00:28:39.854
 - And as a father of three and yourself having a big family, we
 - 00:28:39.854 --> 00:28:44.326
 - Decided to include teachers.
 - 00:28:44.326 --> 00:28:46.828
 - And this also, you know, comes back on a personal level.
 - 00:28:46.828 --> 00:28:50.298
 - My mother was a great school teacher in her day and i
 - 00:28:50.298 --> 00:28:54.469
 - Understood just the passion and the energy that you're putting
 - 00:28:54.469 --> 00:28:59.007
 - Into navigating 30, 40 kids in a class.
 - 00:28:59.007 --> 00:29:03.578
 - These teachers are amazing and they need the benefits of blood
 - 00:29:03.578 --> 00:29:07.949
 - Flow from vinia to have the physical energy and the mental
 - 00:29:07.949 --> 00:29:10.652
 - Alertness to bring out the best in our children because if we
 - 00:29:10.652 --> 00:29:13.688
 - Can bring out the best in our children, we're gonna bring out
 - 00:29:13.688 --> 00:29:16.424
 - The best in our communities and in our country.
 - 00:29:16.424 --> 00:29:19.094
 - And that's why we added 3.5 million teachers across the
 - 00:29:19.094 --> 00:29:23.531
 - United states of america into that pool who qualify for our
 - 00:29:23.531 --> 00:29:26.701
 - 20% off for life in addition to the first response.
 - 00:29:26.701 --> 00:29:30.739
 - Kirk: this is really exciting to me personally because my
 - 00:29:30.739 --> 00:29:32.874
 - Grandfather was a teacher, my grandmother was a teacher, and
 - 00:29:32.874 --> 00:29:35.176
 - My father is a teacher, and my aunt and uncle are first
 - 00:29:35.176 --> 00:29:37.812
 - Responders and my mother's father was a marine in world
 - 00:29:37.812 --> 00:29:41.750
 - War ii.
 - 00:29:41.750 --> 00:29:43.118
 - This is really incredible.
 - 00:29:43.118 --> 00:29:44.719
 - How do people get a hold of this 20% discount?
 - 00:29:44.719 --> 00:29:47.155
 - Elan: you go into our website, depending on if you're a teacher
 - 00:29:47.155 --> 00:29:50.358
 - Or you're a firefighter or a police officer, every single one
 - 00:29:50.358 --> 00:29:54.462
 - Of these critical first responder occupations have
 - 00:29:54.462 --> 00:29:58.466
 - A unique id.
 - 00:29:58.466 --> 00:29:59.801
 - You enter your id and you qualify.
 - 00:29:59.801 --> 00:30:01.736
 - And then off you go, kirk, 20% off for life.
 - 00:30:01.736 --> 00:30:04.939
 - And that's really our deep mission to really live the word
 - 00:30:04.939 --> 00:30:09.711
 - Of isaiah and to really bring the power of our technology to
 - 00:30:09.711 --> 00:30:14.382
 - People that deserve it the most.
 - 00:30:14.382 --> 00:30:16.985
 - Kirk: elan, thank you so much.
 - 00:30:16.985 --> 00:30:18.386
 - This is fantastic.
 - 00:30:18.386 --> 00:30:19.721
 - If you wanna learn more about vinia and the special heroes
 - 00:30:19.721 --> 00:30:23.291
 - Discount, please visit viniatbn.com.
 - 00:30:23.291 --> 00:30:26.628
 - Also, i want you to know that a significant portion of your
 - 00:30:26.628 --> 00:30:29.397
 - Purchase goes to tbn to support the mission of spreading the
 - 00:30:29.397 --> 00:30:33.701
 - Gospel around the world.
 - 00:30:33.701 --> 00:30:35.437
 - Stay with us after the break.
 - 00:30:35.437 --> 00:30:39.151
 - Stay with us after the break.
 - 00:30:39.151 --> 00:30:47.082
 - Kirk: we're back with producer, director, and award winning
 - 00:30:47.182 --> 00:30:48.216
 - Actor gary sinise.
 - 00:30:50.118 --> 00:30:51.719
 - Well gary, i've really been looking forward to the time we
 - 00:30:51.719 --> 00:30:54.856
 - Can talk about your son and about his music.
 - 00:30:54.856 --> 00:30:58.460
 - This album "max sinise resurrection and revival."
 - 00:30:58.460 --> 00:31:03.164
 - You had some tragic things happen and your son has been
 - 00:31:03.164 --> 00:31:11.306
 - Honored through your producing of some of his beautiful music.
 - 00:31:11.306 --> 00:31:14.509
 - Can you tell us a little bit about that and tell us how
 - 00:31:14.509 --> 00:31:16.478
 - You're doing through all of this?
 - 00:31:16.478 --> 00:31:19.147
 - Gary: well, this, yeah, it's been a challenging time.
 - 00:31:19.147 --> 00:31:22.951
 - He had a very rare cancer called cordoma.
 - 00:31:22.951 --> 00:31:26.654
 - And, you know, maybe, i mean, what he had is under 100 people
 - 00:31:26.654 --> 00:31:31.259
 - Per year in the us are diagnosed with the metastatic cordoma.
 - 00:31:31.259 --> 00:31:36.898
 - So it's incurable.
 - 00:31:36.898 --> 00:31:38.433
 - There's no drugs being developed for a cancer that affects
 - 00:31:38.433 --> 00:31:42.137
 - 90 people a year.
 - 00:31:42.137 --> 00:31:43.671
 - So they try to treat it with whatever, you know, they look at
 - 00:31:43.671 --> 00:31:48.109
 - The markers and try to throw other drugs at it.
 - 00:31:48.109 --> 00:31:51.846
 - But you're in a, you're in a tough spot, and mac was in
 - 00:31:51.846 --> 00:31:55.116
 - A tough fight for about six years after we discovered what
 - 00:31:55.116 --> 00:32:00.121
 - Was going on.
 - 00:32:00.121 --> 00:32:01.489
 - He's a tremendous musician and drummer.
 - 00:32:01.489 --> 00:32:05.059
 - He started drumming from the time he was 9-years-old.
 - 00:32:05.059 --> 00:32:09.063
 - I put him on the drum set when he was the first time put him
 - 00:32:09.063 --> 00:32:12.400
 - On the drum set and taught him the basic rock beat.
 - 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.937
 - And he could do it right away.
 - 00:32:15.937 --> 00:32:17.605
 - He could coordinate, you know, you'd do different things with
 - 00:32:17.605 --> 00:32:20.842
 - Different limbs, right?
 - 00:32:20.842 --> 00:32:22.277
 - And he could do it right away.
 - 00:32:22.277 --> 00:32:23.645
 - So he picked it up right away and he played drums from the
 - 00:32:23.645 --> 00:32:26.080
 - Time he was 9-years-old until he couldn't play anymore because of
 - 00:32:26.080 --> 00:32:29.484
 - His cancer fight.
 - 00:32:29.484 --> 00:32:31.853
 - But he was also somebody who wanted to write music, not just
 - 00:32:31.853 --> 00:32:36.524
 - Be a drummer, he went to usc music school, the thornton
 - 00:32:36.524 --> 00:32:40.528
 - School of music at usc.
 - 00:32:40.528 --> 00:32:43.731
 - He was a composer.
 - 00:32:43.731 --> 00:32:46.000
 - The cancer disabled him so much that he couldn't play anymore
 - 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:49.904
 - And he kind of stopped thinking about music.
 - 00:32:49.904 --> 00:32:53.441
 - But 2023, he wanted to revisit a piece of music that he wrote in
 - 00:32:53.441 --> 00:32:58.880
 - College that he never finished.
 - 00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.316
 - So he started working on it with a couple of my band members
 - 00:33:01.316 --> 00:33:06.254
 - Fleshing it out.
 - 00:33:06.254 --> 00:33:07.755
 - It's this piece here called "arctic circles."
 - 00:33:07.755 --> 00:33:12.994
 - Right here.
 - 00:33:12.994 --> 00:33:14.362
 - Kirk: "arctic circles."
 - 00:33:14.362 --> 00:33:15.697
 - Gary: it's right on the top and it was the piece that he
 - 00:33:15.697 --> 00:33:17.432
 - Wrote in college, he never finished it, and he wanted to go
 - 00:33:17.432 --> 00:33:20.235
 - Back and finish it.
 - 00:33:20.235 --> 00:33:21.603
 - And he teamed up with a couple of my band members to help him
 - 00:33:21.603 --> 00:33:25.006
 - Get it going and then he reconnected with a buddy from
 - 00:33:25.006 --> 00:33:28.076
 - College named oliver schney and oliver was a composer as well
 - 00:33:28.076 --> 00:33:31.746
 - And they went to work to finish the music.
 - 00:33:31.746 --> 00:33:34.749
 - And that led to the creation of an entire album of music here.
 - 00:33:34.749 --> 00:33:39.320
 - This is actually my grandfather in world war i, this
 - 00:33:39.320 --> 00:33:43.758
 - Photograph here.
 - 00:33:43.758 --> 00:33:46.327
 - Mac, one of the things he did for the foundation was kind of
 - 00:33:46.327 --> 00:33:49.497
 - Restore things, resurrect them, revive them.
 - 00:33:49.497 --> 00:33:52.934
 - This was an old photograph that he sort of brought back to life,
 - 00:33:52.934 --> 00:33:56.771
 - And he fell in love with it and wanted to put it on the record,
 - 00:33:56.771 --> 00:34:00.575
 - On the front of the record.
 - 00:34:00.575 --> 00:34:02.010
 - So he designed the record and everything.
 - 00:34:02.010 --> 00:34:05.480
 - He never got to see or hold the record, but he heard everything.
 - 00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:11.419
 - It was finished, you know, right before he died.
 - 00:34:11.419 --> 00:34:14.822
 - And then i went back in to his laptop.
 - 00:34:14.822 --> 00:34:19.260
 - And his iphone and all these places i just started looking,
 - 00:34:19.260 --> 00:34:23.698
 - You know, first things.
 - 00:34:23.698 --> 00:34:25.867
 - And i started to discover all this music that he'd written and
 - 00:34:25.867 --> 00:34:29.337
 - Tucked away, stuff i'd never heard before.
 - 00:34:29.337 --> 00:34:31.773
 - He never played it for me.
 - 00:34:31.773 --> 00:34:33.608
 - Beautiful, beautiful music and there was so much of it that i
 - 00:34:33.608 --> 00:34:37.645
 - Called his buddy oliver and i said, "oliver, there's, i got
 - 00:34:37.645 --> 00:34:41.316
 - Another record.
 - 00:34:41.316 --> 00:34:42.684
 - We have to do another--"
 - 00:34:42.684 --> 00:34:44.018
 - Kirk: we got enough for two.
 - 00:34:44.018 --> 00:34:45.386
 - Gary: we got a double album's worth here.
 - 00:34:45.386 --> 00:34:47.355
 - So this is "resurrection and revival."
 - 00:34:47.355 --> 00:34:50.325
 - Part two is a double album.
 - 00:34:50.325 --> 00:34:52.694
 - There's two discs in here.
 - 00:34:52.694 --> 00:34:54.262
 - Kirk: oh, wow.
 - 00:34:54.262 --> 00:34:55.596
 - Gary: there's 19 compositions on here.
 - 00:34:55.596 --> 00:34:58.766
 - Some of them, like the last song mac wrote and then the first
 - 00:34:58.766 --> 00:35:02.570
 - Song he wrote in college is on here.
 - 00:35:02.570 --> 00:35:05.006
 - He recorded it, wrote it in college, he plays drums on it.
 - 00:35:05.006 --> 00:35:09.077
 - And mac wanted, he thought, you know, if we ever sold any
 - 00:35:09.077 --> 00:35:12.647
 - Records, the proceeds could go to the gary sinise foundation.
 - 00:35:12.647 --> 00:35:15.616
 - He loved the foundation, he loved the mission of the
 - 00:35:15.616 --> 00:35:18.386
 - Foundation, and to help our mission to support our veterans.
 - 00:35:18.386 --> 00:35:21.622
 - And we've sold almost 7000 vinyl copies of these records at the
 - 00:35:21.622 --> 00:35:29.597
 - Gary sinise foundation.
 - 00:35:29.597 --> 00:35:33.835
 - It's beautiful.
 - 00:35:33.835 --> 00:35:35.169
 - It's a sad tale.
 - 00:35:35.169 --> 00:35:36.671
 - We lost our battle, you know, we're praying and praying and
 - 00:35:36.671 --> 00:35:39.707
 - Praying hard for the miracle that we wanted to come to help
 - 00:35:39.707 --> 00:35:45.680
 - Our son.
 - 00:35:45.680 --> 00:35:47.048
 - It was a difficult summer, the summer of 2018 when we found out
 - 00:35:47.048 --> 00:35:50.785
 - He had cancer.
 - 00:35:50.785 --> 00:35:52.120
 - A month before, i found out my wife had stage three
 - 00:35:52.120 --> 00:35:56.157
 - Breast cancer.
 - 00:35:56.157 --> 00:35:57.759
 - So it was like, you know, a double whammy there that summer
 - 00:35:57.759 --> 00:36:02.597
 - And now i've got two cancer patients and, you know,
 - 00:36:02.597 --> 00:36:06.534
 - Caregivers everywhere know what i'm talking about when, you
 - 00:36:06.534 --> 00:36:10.438
 - Know, you just become you get in the fight and you try to do
 - 00:36:10.438 --> 00:36:14.942
 - Whatever you can to help and to also try to provide some cover
 - 00:36:14.942 --> 00:36:22.150
 - So that someone like mac, who's dealing with an incurable
 - 00:36:22.150 --> 00:36:25.720
 - Cancer, doesn't have to think about cancer every single day.
 - 00:36:25.720 --> 00:36:29.223
 - I dealt with the doctors and i dealt with the nurses and i
 - 00:36:29.223 --> 00:36:32.560
 - Dealt with the appointments and i dealt with trying to research
 - 00:36:32.560 --> 00:36:35.363
 - The drugs and all that stuff so that he could just try to have
 - 00:36:35.363 --> 00:36:38.800
 - A happy day, you know, and not be thinking about that
 - 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.103
 - All the time.
 - 00:36:42.103 --> 00:36:43.538
 - That's what caregivers, you know, have to do.
 - 00:36:43.538 --> 00:36:46.641
 - You take--you're the battle buddy and you get in the trench
 - 00:36:46.641 --> 00:36:51.279
 - And you try to keep your battle buddy going, you know.
 - 00:36:51.279 --> 00:36:55.450
 - Kirk: that's so good.
 - 00:36:55.450 --> 00:36:56.818
 - It's so inspiring.
 - 00:36:56.818 --> 00:36:58.152
 - Thank you for sharing that story with us and sharing mac's music
 - 00:36:58.152 --> 00:37:01.789
 - With the whole world.
 - 00:37:01.789 --> 00:37:03.157
 - And i hope--
 - 00:37:03.157 --> 00:37:04.492
 - Gary: it's beautiful, it's beautiful stuff.
 - 00:37:04.492 --> 00:37:05.860
 - Kirk: many, many people listen to this.
 - 00:37:05.860 --> 00:37:07.195
 - Gary: you can go to his youtube channel and you can see videos
 - 00:37:07.195 --> 00:37:10.164
 - Of the recording sessions of some of the music and i
 - 00:37:10.164 --> 00:37:13.835
 - Recommend starting with arctic circles 'cause it's a
 - 00:37:13.835 --> 00:37:17.104
 - Magnificent piece and it really just it's very, very moving.
 - 00:37:17.104 --> 00:37:22.043
 - You know, you see me bring mac in the wheelchair and then he's
 - 00:37:22.043 --> 00:37:24.946
 - Sitting there listening to the orchestra play this piece of
 - 00:37:24.946 --> 00:37:27.548
 - Music and i'm, it was the first time i heard it and i was
 - 00:37:27.548 --> 00:37:33.688
 - Knocked out by it.
 - 00:37:33.688 --> 00:37:35.022
 - It's something.
 - 00:37:35.022 --> 00:37:36.357
 - Kirk: that's beautiful.
 - 00:37:36.357 --> 00:37:37.725
 - Thank you.
 - 00:37:37.725 --> 00:37:39.060
 - More with gary after the break.
 - 00:37:39.060 --> 00:37:40.428
 - Next we're gonna hear several people sharing their thoughts on
 - 00:37:40.428 --> 00:37:43.431
 - What they're most grateful for about our country as we
 - 00:37:43.431 --> 00:37:46.601
 - Celebrate our upcoming independence day.
 - 00:37:46.601 --> 00:37:48.769
 - Don't go away.
 - 00:37:48.769 --> 00:37:50.104
 - Kirk: with independence day right around the corner, sean,
 - 00:37:50.104 --> 00:37:52.273
 - What's something that you're thankful for about our country?
 - 00:37:52.273 --> 00:37:56.077
 - Sean mcdowell: my grandfather served in world war ii.
 - 00:37:56.077 --> 00:37:59.447
 - When i was, i think maybe a junior high or high school kid,
 - 00:37:59.447 --> 00:38:01.716
 - I was spouting off about how burning the flag doesn't
 - 00:38:01.716 --> 00:38:04.352
 - Mean anything.
 - 00:38:04.352 --> 00:38:05.720
 - It's just a piece of paper, freedom of speech.
 - 00:38:05.720 --> 00:38:07.388
 - And my grandfather took issue with that.
 - 00:38:07.388 --> 00:38:10.191
 - He goes, "that is not just a flag.
 - 00:38:10.191 --> 00:38:12.827
 - That represents our freedom."
 - 00:38:12.827 --> 00:38:15.263
 - People are willing to lay down their lives for that flag
 - 00:38:15.263 --> 00:38:19.400
 - Because that represents an ideal.
 - 00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.168
 - It's not perfect in the way we lived it out, but it's an ideal
 - 00:38:21.168 --> 00:38:25.172
 - About equality, it's an ideal about freedom, it's an ideal of
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 - What makes america great.
 - 00:38:29.343 --> 00:38:32.046
 - And i'll never forget that and never take my country
 - 00:38:32.046 --> 00:38:35.283
 - For granted.
 - 00:38:35.283 --> 00:38:36.651
 - Allen jackson: well, i'm grateful for the generations
 - 00:38:36.651 --> 00:38:38.252
 - Before us that honored god 'cause it brought god's
 - 00:38:38.252 --> 00:38:40.021
 - Blessings to us.
 - 00:38:40.021 --> 00:38:41.522
 - I can't understand my life apart from the blessings of god and
 - 00:38:41.522 --> 00:38:44.525
 - I think that's a response to choices that have been made.
 - 00:38:44.525 --> 00:38:47.295
 - So i wanna make choices that let god's blessings come to our
 - 00:38:47.295 --> 00:38:50.031
 - Children and grandchildren so god can bless us again.
 - 00:38:50.031 --> 00:38:53.267
 - Kirk: what's one thing that you're thankful for about
 - 00:38:53.267 --> 00:38:55.803
 - Our country?
 - 00:38:55.803 --> 00:38:57.171
 - Heidi st. john: this is a no brainer for me.
 - 00:38:57.171 --> 00:38:58.506
 - It's the constitution, probably the greatest governing document
 - 00:38:58.506 --> 00:39:01.442
 - Ever written in the history of the world and i'd like to see
 - 00:39:01.442 --> 00:39:04.745
 - You start to read it again, get to know it.
 - 00:39:04.745 --> 00:39:07.114
 - Jonathan mcreynolds: this country truly is the land
 - 00:39:07.114 --> 00:39:08.716
 - Of opportunity.
 - 00:39:08.716 --> 00:39:10.084
 - You have such an opportunity to do, to express what you feel
 - 00:39:10.084 --> 00:39:17.191
 - Called to do and express.
 - 00:39:17.191 --> 00:39:18.726
 - And i'm just really grateful that god put me in a place where
 - 00:39:18.726 --> 00:39:22.163
 - I can actually spread my wings, be the nerd, be the musician, be
 - 00:39:22.163 --> 00:39:28.502
 - The christian, be the millennial, be the black man
 - 00:39:28.502 --> 00:39:32.006
 - That i need to be.
 - 00:39:32.006 --> 00:39:33.341
 - Crystal paine: you know, one of the things i'm really grateful
 - 00:39:33.341 --> 00:39:34.809
 - For is the freedom that we have when it comes to education.
 - 00:39:34.809 --> 00:39:37.845
 - I was homeschooled, we have home schooled our kids some, and then
 - 00:39:37.845 --> 00:39:40.615
 - Also we have kids who are in private school.
 - 00:39:40.615 --> 00:39:42.416
 - We have a son who has disabilities who is in the
 - 00:39:42.416 --> 00:39:44.885
 - Public school system and they're special ed department and i am
 - 00:39:44.885 --> 00:39:48.489
 - Just so grateful that we have so many options.
 - 00:39:48.489 --> 00:39:50.791
 - And so i love that we get to choose as parents what is gonna
 - 00:39:50.791 --> 00:39:54.929
 - Work and what is gonna be best for each child.
 - 00:39:54.929 --> 00:39:57.798
 - William federer: i'm grateful for the ability to have the
 - 00:39:57.798 --> 00:40:01.369
 - Gospel preached freely.
 - 00:40:01.369 --> 00:40:03.170
 - That we can--in many countries around the world, it's illegal
 - 00:40:03.170 --> 00:40:07.608
 - To share the gospel.
 - 00:40:07.608 --> 00:40:09.276
 - I'm grateful for my family, my wife and my kids that they have
 - 00:40:09.276 --> 00:40:14.949
 - The freedom to choose their careers and choose their spouses
 - 00:40:14.949 --> 00:40:19.253
 - And if you were to sum america up into one word is individual.
 - 00:40:19.253 --> 00:40:22.823
 - That god has allowed us to have freedoms where we instead of the
 - 00:40:22.823 --> 00:40:29.196
 - King claiming divine right of kings, creator gives the power
 - 00:40:29.196 --> 00:40:33.234
 - To the king and he dispenses it to god's people.
 - 00:40:33.234 --> 00:40:35.636
 - Our founders left out the king and they said the creator gives
 - 00:40:35.636 --> 00:40:37.738
 - The rights to each citizen, right?
 - 00:40:37.738 --> 00:40:40.107
 - And so we in a sense are kings with a little k.
 - 00:40:40.107 --> 00:40:42.943
 - The word citizen means co-king co-ruler, co-sovereign.
 - 00:40:42.943 --> 00:40:46.247
 - And of course we have the voluntary opportunity to
 - 00:40:46.247 --> 00:40:48.582
 - Surrender our lives to jesus, the king of kings.
 - 00:40:48.582 --> 00:40:52.319
 - But i'm grateful for the freedoms that we have and i feel
 - 00:40:52.319 --> 00:40:57.224
 - A responsibility to pass them on to the next generation.
 - 00:40:57.224 --> 00:41:05.150
 - A responsibility to pass them on to the next generation.
 - 00:41:05.150 --> 00:41:12.284
 - Kirk: gary sinise has stayed with us to discuss the continued
 - 00:41:12.384 --> 00:41:13.418
 - Mission of supporting our military veterans and our
 - 00:41:15.454 --> 00:41:18.390
 - First responders.
 - 00:41:18.390 --> 00:41:19.925
 - Gary, fourth of july is coming up, independence day, and i
 - 00:41:19.925 --> 00:41:24.596
 - Always look forward to memorial day, veterans day, fourth
 - 00:41:24.596 --> 00:41:26.832
 - Of july.
 - 00:41:26.832 --> 00:41:28.233
 - Are there any special traditions that you hold on to when it
 - 00:41:28.233 --> 00:41:32.738
 - Comes to independence day?
 - 00:41:32.738 --> 00:41:35.574
 - Gary: well, you know, for many, many years, i've kind of made it
 - 00:41:35.574 --> 00:41:40.245
 - A tradition to play somewhere on a military base.
 - 00:41:40.245 --> 00:41:45.083
 - So i've played, you know, dozens of concerts over the years on
 - 00:41:45.083 --> 00:41:48.820
 - Military bases on the fourth of july.
 - 00:41:48.820 --> 00:41:50.922
 - It's always a very special kind of celebration.
 - 00:41:50.922 --> 00:41:54.392
 - Then there's fireworks.
 - 00:41:54.392 --> 00:41:55.727
 - I remember, fourth of july, 2010, we were in graffenveer,
 - 00:41:55.727 --> 00:42:00.999
 - Germany.
 - 00:42:00.999 --> 00:42:02.834
 - And, you know, massive crowd they're playing the fourth of
 - 00:42:02.834 --> 00:42:08.273
 - July concert.
 - 00:42:08.273 --> 00:42:10.041
 - And then after the concert, boom, boom, boom, the fireworks
 - 00:42:10.041 --> 00:42:13.145
 - Are going off and everything.
 - 00:42:13.145 --> 00:42:15.013
 - And i just got, you know, for years i just got very used to
 - 00:42:15.013 --> 00:42:19.017
 - Being away on the fourth of july playing a concert somewhere.
 - 00:42:19.017 --> 00:42:21.753
 - I don't go away as much.
 - 00:42:21.753 --> 00:42:24.756
 - Last fourth of july i played was actually out here at
 - 00:42:24.756 --> 00:42:27.392
 - Fort campbell.
 - 00:42:27.392 --> 00:42:28.727
 - So it was an easy drive and then i could drive home after
 - 00:42:28.727 --> 00:42:32.430
 - The concert.
 - 00:42:32.430 --> 00:42:33.765
 - That was good.
 - 00:42:33.765 --> 00:42:35.133
 - Kirk: one of the things i like to recommend and i like to do
 - 00:42:35.133 --> 00:42:37.068
 - On the fourth of july is to remember what it's actually all
 - 00:42:37.068 --> 00:42:41.473
 - About independence day.
 - 00:42:41.473 --> 00:42:42.808
 - And the battles that were fought in the revolutionary war and to
 - 00:42:42.808 --> 00:42:46.244
 - Even read the declaration of independence.
 - 00:42:46.244 --> 00:42:47.946
 - A lot of people have never even read the declaration
 - 00:42:47.946 --> 00:42:49.581
 - Of independence.
 - 00:42:49.581 --> 00:42:51.216
 - Go through it and understand and read about the stories of those
 - 00:42:51.216 --> 00:42:54.352
 - Who--why they did what they did.
 - 00:42:54.352 --> 00:42:57.088
 - And how we gained our independence and--
 - 00:42:57.088 --> 00:42:59.624
 - Gary: and thank god they did.
 - 00:42:59.624 --> 00:43:00.959
 - Kirk: and thank god that they had the courage and the faith
 - 00:43:00.959 --> 00:43:03.495
 - To do it, man.
 - 00:43:03.495 --> 00:43:06.031
 - Your book here, "grateful american: the journey from self
 - 00:43:06.031 --> 00:43:10.001
 - To service," you have a last chapter title, "why i'm still
 - 00:43:10.001 --> 00:43:14.539
 - On a mission."
 - 00:43:14.539 --> 00:43:16.875
 - Can you tell us why you called that your last chapter?
 - 00:43:16.875 --> 00:43:22.214
 - Gary: one thing that i say a lot and belief is that we can,
 - 00:43:22.214 --> 00:43:30.889
 - There's a few things, we can never do enough for the men and
 - 00:43:30.889 --> 00:43:33.425
 - Women who serve our country because where would we be if
 - 00:43:33.425 --> 00:43:37.662
 - Nobody wanted to put on the uniform and defend us, you know,
 - 00:43:37.662 --> 00:43:40.932
 - Against our enemies, protect us and whatnot.
 - 00:43:40.932 --> 00:43:44.236
 - So i'm grateful.
 - 00:43:44.236 --> 00:43:45.604
 - I'm a grateful american for sure for the people that have chosen
 - 00:43:45.604 --> 00:43:49.641
 - Military life and military service.
 - 00:43:49.641 --> 00:43:54.012
 - I'm thankful that we have people that are willing to volunteer
 - 00:43:54.012 --> 00:43:58.183
 - To do that.
 - 00:43:58.183 --> 00:43:59.551
 - We don't have a draft, so i'm thankful, i'm grateful.
 - 00:43:59.551 --> 00:44:03.154
 - And then i also say in the book that service work is a great
 - 00:44:03.154 --> 00:44:08.460
 - Healer for a broken heart.
 - 00:44:08.460 --> 00:44:11.029
 - And it's clear.
 - 00:44:11.029 --> 00:44:12.697
 - I mean, and you know, my heart was broken after september 11
 - 00:44:12.697 --> 00:44:17.936
 - And i remember going to our little church in malibu, and the
 - 00:44:17.936 --> 00:44:24.342
 - Friday after the tuesday, remember tuesday, september 11,
 - 00:44:24.342 --> 00:44:28.013
 - And friday, president bush had kind of stated that the friday
 - 00:44:28.013 --> 00:44:33.118
 - Was gonna be a national day of prayer and remembrance for the
 - 00:44:33.118 --> 00:44:36.755
 - Victims of september 11 attacks.
 - 00:44:36.755 --> 00:44:39.658
 - And so the churches were just packed.
 - 00:44:39.658 --> 00:44:41.793
 - Every house of worship in the country was just packed
 - 00:44:41.793 --> 00:44:44.930
 - With people.
 - 00:44:44.930 --> 00:44:46.264
 - We were standing there, there was no room to sit.
 - 00:44:46.264 --> 00:44:48.733
 - The priest came out and he did his homily and the first thing
 - 00:44:48.733 --> 00:44:53.238
 - He said was this has been a tough week and you saw everybody
 - 00:44:53.238 --> 00:44:56.975
 - Go like this 'cause everybody had the images in their head of
 - 00:44:56.975 --> 00:45:00.578
 - What had happened that day.
 - 00:45:00.578 --> 00:45:02.414
 - And then i walked out of that service either having heard
 - 00:45:02.414 --> 00:45:07.953
 - Something he said or just thinking it or something.
 - 00:45:07.953 --> 00:45:10.755
 - I'm not sure, but service was going to be something that if we
 - 00:45:10.755 --> 00:45:16.294
 - All applied ourselves to service and serving our fellow man in
 - 00:45:16.294 --> 00:45:21.633
 - This country that we were gonna heal a lot quicker because we're
 - 00:45:21.633 --> 00:45:25.804
 - All broken.
 - 00:45:25.804 --> 00:45:27.172
 - It was a terrible time and so i just thrust myself into
 - 00:45:27.172 --> 00:45:31.042
 - Service work.
 - 00:45:31.042 --> 00:45:33.011
 - And the more i did it, the more i wanted to do and the more
 - 00:45:33.011 --> 00:45:38.483
 - I could see the impact that was being made when you just simply
 - 00:45:38.483 --> 00:45:41.720
 - Show up to help somebody out.
 - 00:45:41.720 --> 00:45:44.556
 - So why am i still on a mission?
 - 00:45:44.556 --> 00:45:46.391
 - Because i see that the mission has helped people.
 - 00:45:46.391 --> 00:45:50.295
 - And once you get that kind of in your system.
 - 00:45:50.295 --> 00:45:53.965
 - It's just a part of your life.
 - 00:45:53.965 --> 00:45:55.300
 - It's just something that makes you feel better.
 - 00:45:55.300 --> 00:45:57.969
 - And through the cancer fight, kirk, i didn't stop going on the
 - 00:45:57.969 --> 00:46:02.774
 - Mission of--i stayed home a bit more, and i shifted
 - 00:46:02.774 --> 00:46:07.812
 - My priorities.
 - 00:46:07.812 --> 00:46:09.180
 - I stopped acting in 2019 to focus on the family, but i still
 - 00:46:09.180 --> 00:46:13.985
 - Continue to go out there and support the men and women who
 - 00:46:13.985 --> 00:46:16.154
 - Are serving our country and help build homes for them and do
 - 00:46:16.154 --> 00:46:20.058
 - Things for them because service is a great healer.
 - 00:46:20.058 --> 00:46:24.662
 - And i had a broken heart for what was going on at home now
 - 00:46:24.662 --> 00:46:28.033
 - With our son and seeing him.
 - 00:46:28.033 --> 00:46:30.301
 - But he didn't want me to stop doing that and i didn't wanna
 - 00:46:30.301 --> 00:46:33.271
 - Stop doing it because i would go out there and i would see that
 - 00:46:33.271 --> 00:46:36.875
 - Showing up can make a difference.
 - 00:46:36.875 --> 00:46:38.843
 - And i would replenish and then i'd come back to the fight for
 - 00:46:38.843 --> 00:46:42.347
 - Him and so it was helpful to keep on the mission and
 - 00:46:42.347 --> 00:46:47.852
 - To keep serving.
 - 00:46:47.852 --> 00:46:49.220
 - Kirk: i'm so grateful that you're a person of conviction
 - 00:46:49.220 --> 00:46:53.425
 - And you've committed yourself to a lifelong mission of serving
 - 00:46:53.425 --> 00:46:58.363
 - Other people and i hear what you're saying that it's healing
 - 00:46:58.363 --> 00:47:01.166
 - For you to be involved in service, but it's also healing
 - 00:47:01.166 --> 00:47:05.403
 - For the people that you're serving and it's also inspiring
 - 00:47:05.403 --> 00:47:08.039
 - And it's helping people to get a grasp on who we are, why
 - 00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:12.110
 - We're here, and a real sense of meaningful purpose in their life
 - 00:47:12.110 --> 00:47:15.180
 - If they engage on in a mission of service.
 - 00:47:15.180 --> 00:47:18.716
 - Gary: we lift ourselves up when we lift somebody else up.
 - 00:47:18.716 --> 00:47:22.954
 - There's no question about it then.
 - 00:47:22.954 --> 00:47:25.723
 - You know, that services are part of our faith and, you know, it's
 - 00:47:25.723 --> 00:47:30.628
 - A--why else are we here, you know, on this planet if not to
 - 00:47:30.628 --> 00:47:37.368
 - Help each other through our lives, you know.
 - 00:47:37.368 --> 00:47:41.106
 - And so i've found that, you know, there are different ways
 - 00:47:41.106 --> 00:47:46.377
 - That i can do that.
 - 00:47:46.377 --> 00:47:47.712
 - I can share my son's story and his courage and grace and in
 - 00:47:47.712 --> 00:47:51.416
 - Fighting his battle, maybe that will help somebody else who's
 - 00:47:51.416 --> 00:47:55.520
 - Going through their battle.
 - 00:47:55.520 --> 00:47:57.322
 - I can go out there and pat the men and women who serve our
 - 00:47:57.322 --> 00:48:00.325
 - Country on the back and let their families know that we
 - 00:48:00.325 --> 00:48:02.994
 - Appreciate them.
 - 00:48:02.994 --> 00:48:04.329
 - There's a lot that we can do and we're trying to do it at the
 - 00:48:04.329 --> 00:48:07.599
 - Gary sinise foundation every single day.
 - 00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:10.869
 - Kirk: despite all of our problems, all of our struggles,
 - 00:48:10.869 --> 00:48:14.172
 - The divisiveness that has characterized our country,
 - 00:48:14.172 --> 00:48:16.975
 - Particularly in the last several years, what are some of the
 - 00:48:16.975 --> 00:48:20.645
 - Things that you appreciate most about being an american?
 - 00:48:20.645 --> 00:48:25.116
 - Gary: oh, i am a grateful american.
 - 00:48:25.116 --> 00:48:28.019
 - There's no question about that.
 - 00:48:28.019 --> 00:48:30.221
 - Now, we are free in this country.
 - 00:48:30.221 --> 00:48:32.724
 - You know, when you go to places that don't really understand
 - 00:48:32.724 --> 00:48:35.393
 - What freedom is--
 - 00:48:35.393 --> 00:48:36.728
 - Kirk: and you've been there.
 - 00:48:36.728 --> 00:48:38.096
 - Gary: and it's hard, it's hard--
 - 00:48:38.096 --> 00:48:39.430
 - Kirk: on these military bases.
 - 00:48:39.430 --> 00:48:40.798
 - Gary: yeah, it's hard for us to conceive of that, but i'll tell
 - 00:48:40.798 --> 00:48:43.067
 - You one quick story.
 - 00:48:43.067 --> 00:48:44.402
 - Standing on the border between north and south korea, you go up
 - 00:48:44.402 --> 00:48:47.305
 - To the dmz.
 - 00:48:47.305 --> 00:48:49.007
 - And you can stand as close as i am right here, as you and i are
 - 00:48:49.007 --> 00:48:52.944
 - And there can be a north korean guard staring me in the face,
 - 00:48:52.944 --> 00:48:57.015
 - Right there.
 - 00:48:57.015 --> 00:48:58.349
 - And there's a little barrier, there's a little thing on
 - 00:48:58.349 --> 00:49:00.318
 - The ground.
 - 00:49:00.318 --> 00:49:01.653
 - I could step right over into north korea if i want and he's
 - 00:49:01.653 --> 00:49:03.721
 - On that side and he's a slave.
 - 00:49:03.721 --> 00:49:06.824
 - He's enslaved.
 - 00:49:06.824 --> 00:49:08.159
 - He has no concept of what freedom is.
 - 00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:10.261
 - And everybody behind me on this side, they've lived free because
 - 00:49:10.261 --> 00:49:14.199
 - The united states of america has been there defending and
 - 00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:18.536
 - Supporting the republic of korea.
 - 00:49:18.536 --> 00:49:21.873
 - This guy is a slave over there.
 - 00:49:21.873 --> 00:49:23.308
 - He has no concept of what living in a free society is.
 - 00:49:23.308 --> 00:49:27.045
 - So you value your freedom, you know, when you go to places that
 - 00:49:27.045 --> 00:49:30.515
 - Don't really understand it.
 - 00:49:30.515 --> 00:49:31.883
 - That's one of the great things i love about our country is
 - 00:49:31.883 --> 00:49:35.853
 - We are free.
 - 00:49:35.853 --> 00:49:37.188
 - We may be divided, we may have problems, all that.
 - 00:49:37.188 --> 00:49:39.457
 - There's no country on earth that doesn't have problems, but we're
 - 00:49:39.457 --> 00:49:42.527
 - Free here.
 - 00:49:42.527 --> 00:49:43.895
 - You know, we're free to worship and we're free to speak and
 - 00:49:43.895 --> 00:49:49.934
 - We're free to do things and we're free because there are men
 - 00:49:49.934 --> 00:49:53.037
 - And women who are willing to defend that and
 - 00:49:53.037 --> 00:49:55.540
 - I appreciate that.
 - 00:49:55.540 --> 00:49:57.375
 - Kirk: gary, thanks so much for being with us today.
 - 00:49:57.375 --> 00:49:59.244
 - Gary: thank you, kirk.
 - 00:49:59.244 --> 00:50:00.578
 - Kirk: appreciate you.
 - 00:50:00.578 --> 00:50:01.946
 - After the break, we'll review today's "takeaways."
 - 00:50:01.946 --> 00:50:10.154
 - After the break, we'll review today's "takeaways."
 - 00:50:10.154 --> 00:50:16.227
 - Kirk: what an incredible time with gary sinise.
 - 00:50:17.862 --> 00:50:20.632
 - His heart for our military and their families was both moving
 - 00:50:20.632 --> 00:50:24.502
 - And inspiring.
 - 00:50:24.502 --> 00:50:26.004
 - It was a gift to hear his personal stories and be reminded
 - 00:50:26.004 --> 00:50:29.574
 - That all of us have a part to play in caring for those
 - 00:50:29.574 --> 00:50:32.610
 - Who serve.
 - 00:50:32.610 --> 00:50:34.045
 - Here's a few key takeaways.
 - 00:50:34.045 --> 00:50:36.281
 - Thank you for your service.
 - 00:50:36.281 --> 00:50:38.650
 - Gary reminded us how much it matters to simply say,
 - 00:50:38.650 --> 00:50:41.886
 - "thank you."
 - 00:50:41.886 --> 00:50:43.221
 - The men and women in our military and their families live
 - 00:50:43.221 --> 00:50:45.957
 - Lives of incredible sacrifice and strength.
 - 00:50:45.957 --> 00:50:49.260
 - Their service deserves our deep gratitude, not just on holidays,
 - 00:50:49.260 --> 00:50:53.564
 - But every day.
 - 00:50:53.564 --> 00:50:54.932
 - So if you're a veteran or currently serving, please know
 - 00:50:54.932 --> 00:50:58.603
 - We see you, we honor you, and we are truly thankful.
 - 00:50:58.603 --> 00:51:02.974
 - Our team at "takeaways" says with full hearts, "thank you for
 - 00:51:02.974 --> 00:51:06.778
 - Your service."
 - 00:51:06.778 --> 00:51:08.780
 - Service is a healer.
 - 00:51:08.780 --> 00:51:10.915
 - One of gary's most powerful messages was that serving others
 - 00:51:10.915 --> 00:51:15.019
 - Can actually bring healing to our own hearts.
 - 00:51:15.019 --> 00:51:17.789
 - He's seen it in his own life and many of us have experienced
 - 00:51:17.789 --> 00:51:20.958
 - It too.
 - 00:51:20.958 --> 00:51:22.293
 - When we reach out to lift someone else up, something
 - 00:51:22.293 --> 00:51:25.096
 - Shifts in us.
 - 00:51:25.096 --> 00:51:27.332
 - God created us for community, for connection, and when we live
 - 00:51:27.332 --> 00:51:31.302
 - That out, it strengthens us too.
 - 00:51:31.302 --> 00:51:34.238
 - Like gary said so well, we lift ourselves up when we lift
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 - Someone else up.
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 - What's your mission?
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 - As we reflect on the sacrifices made by so many for our freedom,
 - 00:51:42.547 --> 00:51:47.018
 - It's worth asking, what is my mission?
 - 00:51:47.018 --> 00:51:50.054
 - Gary's story of how he began serving veterans is a reminder
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 - That it often starts with a simple burden on your own heart
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 - And a willingness to act.
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 - Maybe god is calling you to help a military family in
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 - Your neighborhood.
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 - Maybe it's volunteering locally or checking in with someone
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 - Who's struggling.
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 - Maybe using your gifts in a new way.
 - 00:52:08.606 --> 00:52:11.275
 - Just start where you are, look around, and then take the
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 - First step.
 - 00:52:14.278 --> 00:52:15.646
 - Like gary said, start locally.
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 - Big change often starts with small faithful actions.
 - 00:52:18.082 --> 00:52:23.654
 - On this independence day, let's make it personal.
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 - Let's be people who regularly ask god, "what's my mission,"
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 - And then step into it with courage and compassion until we
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 - See it through.
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 - That's all for this episode of "takeaways."
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 - Thanks for watching and if you've enjoyed this show, don't
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 - Forget to set your dvr to never miss an episode.
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 - And of course you can always catch up on past episodes by
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 - Searching for "takeaways" on tbn+ or by visiting the kirk
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 - Cameron on tbn youtube channel.
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 - We'll see you here next time for more great conversations.
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 - ♪♪♪
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