Kirk Cameron is joined by Pastor Jack Hibbs, along with author and speaker Sharon Jaynes, to discuss a biblical perspective on thanksgiving and choosing to see life’s circumstances through a lens of gratitude.
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Takeaways with Kirk Cameron | Jack Hibbs & Sharon Jaynes: Cultivating an Attitude of Gratitude | Takeaways with Kirk Cameron | November 25, 2024
- Kirk cameron: what does it look like to live out the biblical
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- Call to be thankful in all circumstances?
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- And how would making time to give thanks to god each day
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- Change us.
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- We're gonna answer all these questions and more as we dive
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- Into the topics of gratitude and thanksgiving with pastor jack
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- Hibbs and author and speaker sharon jaynes.
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- Let's talk about it all right now on "takeaways."
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- Jack hibbs: i always stake my flag of thankfulness in the fact
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- That he is our immovable god.
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- The god of jacob, the scripture says in psalm 47, is our refuge.
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- Every day i rejoice in his steadfastness.
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- Sharon jaynes: when we have that attitude of complaining and
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- Grumbling, it is like we are looking at life through the
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- Wrong lens.
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- So when you look at life through the sovereignty of god rather
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- Than the selfishness of man, everything becomes more clear.
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- ♪♪♪
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- Kirk: hey, everybody, we're kicking off today's
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- Conversations with jack hibbs, the senior and founding pastor
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- Of calvary chapel chino hills.
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- Jack, thank you so much for joining us on "takeaways."
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- Jack: listen, kirk, thank you for having me.
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- Thrilled to be with you again always.
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- Kirk: you know, you're doing such amazing
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- Things in chino hills.
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- I love coming to your church, my kids love coming to your church,
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- And i love the way that you have just obliterated this lie of the
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- Separation of church and state, understood wrongly, and you're
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- Getting christians to permeate every aspect of local government
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- And school boards and everything else.
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- And you're seeing wins everywhere
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- After this last election, right?
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- Aren't there christians who are now hugely influential
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- As salt and light?
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- Jack: thirty-five years, kirk, of doing this.
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- We've always been engaged in the culture.
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- We have always had our heartbeat, as it were, or our
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- Pulse on the community.
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- We believe that that's what a real new testament church is, to
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- Be that--of salt and light.
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- And now after all these years, the rewards the lord blessed
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- With in this last election from local school boards, mayor
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- Races, city council, county, and then of course, in california
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- The data is overwhelmingly that the church got up and voted
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- In california.
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- Kirk: wow, this is so exciting.
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- Well, jack, we're moving into the holiday season with
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- Thanksgiving and christmas.
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- What's something that you're particularly thankful for
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- Right now?
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- Jack: i'm thankful for this, no matter how the election goes and
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- No matter how my health might be, no matter what the economy
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- Looks like, no matter what, this is what i'm always thankful for.
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- This is where i stake my flag, kirk, and that is in the fact
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- That our lord never changes.
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- He's not subject to elections.
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- He's not subject to the weather.
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- He's not subject to seasons.
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- I always take my flag of thankfulness in the fact that he
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- Is our immovable god.
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- The god of jacob, the scripture says in psalm 47, is our refuge.
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- And i revel in that every day.
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- I'm thankful for him and his immovable attributes.
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- Every day i rejoice in his steadfastness.
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- Kirk: yes, well, jack, as you're teaching your flock there at
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- Calvary chapel chino hills, what scriptures do you like to point
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- Your congregation to, to get them thinking about gratitude?
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- Jack: there's so many.
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- Obviously, the go-to: jeremiah 29:11, god knows the thoughts
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- That he thinks towards us regarding our future, and that
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- Is for us to have a hope and to have a full and complete
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- Fulfilled life.
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- I--we always talk about titus 2:13, i wiggle that into every
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- Sermon as much as possible, that "while we wait for the blessed
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- Hope and the glorious appearing of our great god and savior,
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- Jesus christ."
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- That gets me excited because we don't know when he's coming
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- Back, so i wanna live every day as though it's so urgent.
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- And then of course, i revel in the fact that "as far as the
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- East is from the west, so far the lord has removed our sins
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- From us."
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- He's gonna complete the work that he started within us.
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- I mean, it's endless.
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- And so i wanna hide these promises of his in my heart and
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- That's what fires up my life, yeah, totally.
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- Kirk: so, jack, is there a difference, do you think, about
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- The gratitude that the sons of disobedience, those who are
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- Wrapped up and enslaved to this godless world system that we see
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- Around us, and the gratitude in the heart of a believer?
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- Because the secular culture can say, "yeah, i'm thankful.
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- I'm thankful for a lot of things."
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- But what's the difference between that and being thankful
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- To god?
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- Jack: the difference is infinite for this reason, number one,
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- Let's say my neighbor's really happy because he just got a
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- Brand-new corvette, okay?
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- And he's so happy.
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- He doesn't want anything to do with god because he, listen,
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- He's got the wealth right now, kirk,
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- I'm being kind of sarcastic.
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- He's got the wealth of being very healthy.
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- He's got the wealth of being able to make money.
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- He's got the wealth that his family's okay.
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- Everything's fine.
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- But the difference happens is when the job is gone, the car is
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- Repossessed, or he's got a lump, you know, in his chest or in his
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- Liver, then his world falls apart because he's got
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- No foundation.
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- And for me, on the other hand, they can take away this--they
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- Can come and steal my '67 volkswagen that i have.
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- You know what, it's just a piece of metal.
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- It was cool, but i can live without it.
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- My house could burn down.
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- That's okay.
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- The place where lisa and i are heading is eternal.
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- Do i thank god for the things that he has given us?
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- Absolutely.
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- But i thank him for these things.
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- These things are not the things that determine my thankfulness.
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- It's him that determines my thankfulness.
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- Everything i have, the health that i have at this moment,
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- Kirk, to be speaking with you, i owe that to him, and my body
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- Belongs to him.
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- If he decides to do other things with my body, i rejoice.
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- I'm here to serve him in life and in death.
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- Kirk: well, that just brings a consistency to your emotions.
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- It takes you off the roller coaster ride of, now we're up
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- And now we're down, and it gives you this peace.
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- I have a wise old owl in my life who likes to remind me, i
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- Believe it's of psalm 73, wherein it says, "the goodness
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- Of the lord"--i'm sorry, "the nearness of the lord is
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- My good."
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- And we're always thankful for the good
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- Things, not for the bad things.
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- But if the epitome of my good is the nearness of god, well, he's
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- Told me he's never gonna leave me, he's never gonna forsake me.
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- The lord is near to me always.
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- That means it's always a good day.
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- It means i can always be thankful no matter what's
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- Happening circumstantially.
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- Jack: so powerful what you just said.
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- I hope everyone grasped what you just announced because as soon
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- As you said that, kirk, my mind went to matthew 6:33: "seek
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- First the kingdom of god, and all these other
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- Things will be added to you."
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- We don't need to worry. we don't need to sweat.
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- We don't need to panic.
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- We need to present ourselves to the lord and, listen, like keith
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- Green used to say way back in the '70s, he would say this--oh
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- Yeah, i got--listen, i got saved at a church event at calvary
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- Costa mesa where greg laurie was preaching the gospel, i didn't
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- Even know who he was, and keith green was playing the piano and
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- Worship, i didn't know who he was.
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- But keith green used to say, "listen, commit ourselves to the
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- Lord, do our best, and he'll take care of the rest."
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- And i love that. it's simple, i'm simple.
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- It's what i need, it's what i do.
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- I revel in him, not in my circumstances.
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- That those change all the time, but he never changes.
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- Kirk: when we understand the sovereignty of god and the
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- Character, his faithfulness, his love for us, his promises that
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- He's working all things together for good, that changes
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- Everything because, you know, sometimes, i don't know about
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- You, jack, but sometimes i'm looking forward and i say,
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- "well, how could that be a good thing?
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- How can i be thankful for that?
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- How can i be thankful that," you know, let's just say--i was
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- Thinking about this this morning, about the assassination
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- Attempt of ronald reagan back in the day, and in the
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- Assassination attempt of donald trump more recently, and yet i
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- Remember ronald reagan essentially pointed out that it
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- Was that very event where he referred to it almost as though
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- God had shot him and to woke him up so that he would understand
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- Why he put him there in the white house.
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- And essentially, president-elect trump is saying the same thing.
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- I mean, he's saying, "i know why god saved me."
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- I mean, he was this close from it being all over.
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- And you know what, i think that the united states of america was
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- Also this close for it being all over.
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- We dodged a bullet collectively as a nation and narrowly escaped
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- 50 years of marxism and socialism in america.
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- And i can turn around now and say, "thank you, god.
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- Thank you for this."
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- This is like a great movie where things seem like they're going
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- Bad, and then it turns out that these are the plot points that
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- Make the heroic ending so exciting.
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- Jack: okay, listen.
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- Yes to everything you just said, and this: and maybe, maybe
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- God moved.
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- From chino hills to knoxville, tennessee--i know this 'cause
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- We linked up with calvary chapel knoxville, calvary chapel chino
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- Hills, people were joining us from vietnam, canada, england,
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- Australia, new zealand.
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- We fasted and prayed for 21 days regarding god's will to be done
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- For the election.
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- Every day, three times a day we gathered, remarkably, and we
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- Weren't the only ones, kirk.
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- There were people praying all over for this election.
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- We know for a fact, kirk, we have friends in israel who were
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- Praying in prayer groups in israel for this election.
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- Listen, bottom line is this: i believe that god heard the
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- Prayer of the remnant of his people, and
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- What you said is so true.
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- I have to confess,
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- Everybody was asking me, "who's gonna win the election?
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- Who's gonna win the election?"
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- I actually felt that it would be right for god to give us kamala
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- Harris because we deserve that, because we've treated god so
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- Terribly as a nation.
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- I'm not talking about you or me.
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- I'm talking about as a nation.
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- But god heard the cry of his people, he spared us by giving
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- Us--yes, trump's imperfect; so am i.
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- But god raises up, daniel
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- Chapter 2, god raises up kings and he takes kings down.
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- Boy, friends, listen, this overwhelming victory for donald
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- Trump has more to do with god being merciful than
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- Donald trump.
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- It has more about god being good to us even when we don't deserve
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- It than it has to do with the republican party.
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- Forget--don't get bogged down in that's--in the side issues.
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- God moved, and, kirk, here's the thing.
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- What are we gonna do with that act of grace and mercy?
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- You and i need to run the race like we've never run it before.
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- We've been given a reprieve.
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- What are we gonna do with it?
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- It's an end of the moment.
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- God stayed the hand of judgment.
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- Justifiably, he could have just fried us.
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- We've been murdering babies, we've been mocking god, we've
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- Been allowing satanism and all kinds of things to
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- Be represented.
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- God could have just flicked us on into space.
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- He could have. he didn't.
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- Why didn't he?
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- Because "if my people, who are called by my name, will pray,
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- Humble themselves, seek their--seek my face, repent of
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- Their sins, i'll hear
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- From heaven and i'll heal their land."
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- I believe god did that because he's merciful.
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- Now, what are we gonna do about this reprieve?
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- We've got a little window to do righteousness.
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- Let's do it.
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- Kirk: and there's no better fuel to fill our veins
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- Than gratitude.
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- After the break, we're gonna talk with jack about what it
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- Really looks like to be thankful in every season.
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- Kirk: hey, everybody, we're back with pastor jack hibbs,
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- Talking about the biblical case for thanksgiving and gratitude.
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- I have a friend, jack, who likes to say that gratitude is the
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- Attitude that determines the altitude for living.
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- And i just love that, i can't think of anything that makes me
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- A happier person, a kinder person, a more forgiving and
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- Jesus-like person than if i can be thankful in all situations.
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- How do you get angry when you're actually feeling grateful?
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- Jack: you know, it's amazing.
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- You just made me have a little epiphany.
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- I just realized with what you just said that the people i
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- Enjoy being around the most just happen to be people who are
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- Very thankful.
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- I'm seeing them right now in my mind, kirk.
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- I know them by name, i see them by face, i talk to them, we go
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- Out to dinner, we have events together.
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- And what has caused them to be so attractive to me and
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- To lisa in our lives?
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- They are a grateful people, incredible, thankful all
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- The time.
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- And that causes me--you know, when somebody's thankful it
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- Causes me to take stock of my own life.
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- And for crying out loud, living in america, we've got shoes on
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- Our feet, we've got clothes on our body.
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- We should be so thankful.
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- The greatest cacophony of praise, worship, and
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- Thanksgiving should be rising up from the nation of america.
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- We should be a witness to the world of being thankful.
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- And--but, yeah, i just love it.
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- I love how it--your friend is right.
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- It totally changes your attitude.
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- Because if you're not thankful to god in the midst of difficult
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- Times, here's the sad thing, you'll become angry,
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- Questioning, bitter.
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- You'll accuse god of why things are wrong, and that's a
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- Dangerous, dark place to be.
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- Because the bottom line, my goodness, when the things shake
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- And when things are burning and everything else is looking wrong
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- In the world, even those things, kirk, the bible announces that
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- He's in control, he's got you, you don't need to worry, just
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- Keep giving it to him.
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- And listen, praise and worship is the most precious to him when
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- The times in our lives are most difficult.
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- Kirk: yeah, and it makes me think about how god is able to
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- Govern his world because he's not caught in the trees.
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- He's up high, he sees the forest, you know, through the
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- Trees--or for the trees.
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- And if that gratitude really is the attitude that determines the
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- Altitude for us, we wanna get up as high as we can above the
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- Clouds so that we can step back, see the big picture, and go,
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- "oh, wait a minute, now i get it.
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- God's in charge of all of this.
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- He's working all things together for good."
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- That's how it's done.
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- Here's a lesson: god knows best, not me.
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- How does gratitude help me learn that god knows best, not me?
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- Jack: gratitude puts you in the position of being able to
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- Receive from god.
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- Think about it, do i have reception?
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- Do you have a signal?
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- Let's stand over here.
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- What about here?
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- Wait a minute.
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- When we determine "i'm gonna be grateful, i'm gonna express
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- Gratitude toward god," that changes, listen, it changes the
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- Entire view that is being processed out of my eyes and my
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- Ears and my mind.
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- What i see, what i hear, what goes around in my life
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- Externally is first, now, processed with a thankful heart.
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- My god--and i like to put it this way, kirk.
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- In the morning when i get up, i literally do this, i say,
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- "lord," before my feet hit the earth, 'cause i'm getting out of
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- Bed, my feet not been on earth, "this is your day.
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- Fill me with your holy spirit and cause me to walk in your
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- Way, that whatever happens today i will give you praise and honor
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- For it because you are sovereign, and i follow you now
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- In jesus's name."
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- I get out of bed, and from that moment on, kirk, i promise you,
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- I do not look back.
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- I look for him, i search for him, i'm expecting to hear
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- From him.
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- I live a very, very pregnant life of hope.
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- My life is full of expectation.
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- The god of the bible spoke to elijah, he spoke to john
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- The baptist.
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- He says he's not a respecter of persons, so i am so ready for
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- Him to speak to me that it causes me to mitigate the things
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- Of life every day.
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- And that gratitude is--it's--it determines everything.
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- Trajectory, it sets it straight every time.
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- Kirk: jack, how does gratitude help the person that says, "life
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- Isn't fair," and they need to understand that we actually
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- Don't want life to be fair, and that it's good that life is not
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- Always fair?
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- Jack: yeah, first of all, there's nothing fair about god
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- Coming to earth and being born as a baby and then being
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- Mistreated and rejected and crucified, beaten.
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- There's nothing fair--listen, salvation, redemption,
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- The cross?
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- There's nothing fair about that.
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- But god doesn't operate in the area of fairness.
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- If you think about it, you say "well, my--you know, that
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- Wasn't fair.
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- I lost my job or my car got stolen or my dog died."
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- Listen, this life is brutal.
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- Jesus christ came to save us from it.
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- But for the believer, the moment i come to christ, here's what's
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- Cool: all this stuff makes sense.
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- I'm not exempt from hardship, pain, and sorrow, but my bible
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- Promises me that god walks with me through these things.
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- And here's the big difference, and i'm grateful for this, what
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- Might destroy the nonbeliever causes the believer to be
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- Galvanized and equipped and matured so that we, with god,
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- Can survive anything.
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- We can survive any imprisonment, any hatred, any rejection, any
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- Illness, any situation.
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- I know he's with me.
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- Jesus said this world--satan has come to rob us, to kill us, and
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- Destroy us, "but i have come to give you eternal life,"
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- Abounding life.
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- And i believe that because i've seen it true in my life.
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- And so, that's what i think people need to do, is realize,
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- Wait a minute, what's going on, god knew about it before he hung
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- The moon out into space.
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- He knew that i was here at this moment before i was ever born.
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- So, god, show me the answer in this situation right now.
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- Cause me not to panic, just have me be still and discover to know
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- That you are god in this situation.
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- Kirk: jack, i--don't you just love charles spurgeon?
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- Now, there's a guy that i just can't--i can't help but think
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- He--he was probably quotable when he was talking in
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- His sleep.
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- I mean, the things that come out of his mouth were just always
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- Worth writing down.
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- And i love how he says in one of his writings that "in the
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- Strictest sense of the word, no evil can come to the christian."
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- And of course, he's not saying that bad things don't happen.
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- But what he's saying is that everything that comes to the
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- Christian is coming from the hand of god and that it is good
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- In a mysterious form.
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- And so everything from sickness to financial loss to everything
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- Else that could possibly happen, while he doesn't endorse sin,
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- He's not the author of sin, he sinlessly weaves all things,
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- Including sinful things, together to bring about his
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- Purposes in the life of a believer.
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- And so it only draws us closer to him.
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- It only sanctifies us and it only--even death quickens us to
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- The final redemptive act where we get to see him face-to-face.
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- I mean, it's like there's no worst-case scenario for a
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- Christian, only best-case scenarios.
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- Jack: with what you just said, that's not hyperbole, that's
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- Not exaggeration.
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- You're 100% correct.
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- Listen, every--first of all, everybody should own, "morning
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- And evening," by charles spurgeon.
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- But what people don't realize is charles spurgeon fought with
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- Bouts of depression.
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- He had severe gout in his feet.
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- He had severe allergies.
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- His lungs would often--that's right.
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- And he would often have lung infections because of the london
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- Soot and the smoke from the furnaces.
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- He suffered so much, but when you read him, it's like, how
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- Could this guy think so deep?
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- Oh my goodness, the depth of that man's spirituality came out
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- Of great suffering.
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- But, you know, it's amazing because--i'm thrilled about what
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- You're saying because nothing can come to us but that which
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- Has been father-filtered.
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- Christian, listen, in your life, nothing can come to you unless
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- It's been filtered by the father.
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- Job, we learned this from job, that satan couldn't touch job
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- Unless he got permission from god.
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- We know this about peter.
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- The bible says that satan came to jesus and asked for peter
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- By name.
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- He wanted to destroy peter.
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- And i wish i was there at that moment, kirk.
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- Can you imagine?
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- Jesus tells peter, "hey, peter,
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- Satan came to me last night and he asked me
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- If he could have you."
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- And you can almost see peter like, "yeah,
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- Well, wow, that's heavy.
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- You told him no, right?"
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- And jesus said, "well, actually, when you return from your trial,
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- Strengthen your brothers."
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- You and i go through difficulties to strengthen our
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- Families, to strengthen our churches, to strengthen
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- Our brothers.
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- Satan--listen, in god, he'll use satan as a tool to perfect
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- My sanctification.
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- Satan becomes a tool.
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- Kirk: that's right, isn't that amazing?
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- God can use anything.
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- Jack, how about the other--the ditch on the other side
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- Of gratitude?
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- You know, we've talked about how to give thanks to god even when
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- Challenging, difficult things happen, but how when things are
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- Going well?
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- Let's say i did a great job at work and i just got a raise.
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- Let's just say that everything is going my way.
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- That might be a time where pride could well up and i'm not
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- Thanking god, i'm just proud of myself.
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- Why is it important to thank god even in those times?
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- Jack: you know, listen, absolutely.
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- I'm gonna give you one reporter's opinion.
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- It's my opinion because this is what i can report to you because
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- This is what's happened and happens in my life.
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- When everything's going great, you know what keeps my heart in
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- The right place, kirk?
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- Is ministering to other people.
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- I may be doing fine, my kids may be fine, my grandchildren may be
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- Fine, lisa and i are both on top of the world, things are
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- Going fine.
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- But, kirk, here's the--in my opinion, this is the secret
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- Weapon to christianity and the success of the believer.
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- When you're doing fine, keep going, make yourself available
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- To serve other people who are hurting and injured and sick and
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- Wounded because it causes you, in your high point, when
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- Everything's going great, it causes you to remember, lord,
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- Thank you as i pray for mike and all of his situations that i
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- Just saw him going through, and i visited him at the hospital,
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- Or he's--whatever it might--god, thank you for this food we
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- Have tonight.
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- Thank you, lord god, that we're here around our table and we're
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- Not plugged into a machine at the hospital.
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- Thank you, god, that we're able to be together as a family this
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- One night because, lord, that family that has been broken up
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- By this horrible situation.
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- Christian, be a servant and you'll always be thankful no
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- Matter how smooth things are going in your life.
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- When we stop serving, that's when we get big headed, we
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- Lose sight.
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- We think it's somehow our doing.
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- That's not good.
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- Stay in the ministry, christian, and you'll be thankful because
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- You'll see what good you have in your own life.
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- Kirk: yeah, jack, right now you're making me think of jesus
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- Who said, "i thank you, father, that you've hidden this from the
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- Wise and the prudent but you've revealed this to babes."
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- Jesus had a thankful heart and he was the ultimate servant who
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- Didn't come for other people to take care of his needs but he
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- Came to wash their feet and he came to give them what
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- They needed.
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- And i think you're right, gratitude is the fuel that
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- Keeps us serving other people.
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- Jack, i'm so, so thankful for you.
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- I'm so thankful that god has given you the microphone and
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- Platform that you have to get out to all of us.
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- You're filling me with gratitude and, man, happy thanksgiving,
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- Merry christmas, happy new year.
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- And i can't wait to see all that's gonna take place this
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- Coming year.
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- Jack: brother, the same back to you.
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- So grateful for your witness.
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- I love you, you already know that, and i look forward to
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- Whenever we get together again.
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- It's not soon enough.
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- Kirk: when we come back, we're going to be joined by returning
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- Guest sharon jaynes to talk about the enemies of gratitude
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- And thanksgiving.
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- Entitlement, grumbling, and complaining.
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- How do we stop these habits in their tracks and work to stay
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- Thankful in our everyday lives?
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- Sharon has a lot of practical tips for us, so stay right here.
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- ♪♪♪
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- ♪♪♪
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- Kirk: it's great to have best-selling author
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- And women's conference and event speaker sharon jaynes
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- Joining us again on "takeaways."
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- Sharon, thanks so much for being here.
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- Sharon: thanks for having me back.
- 00:26:11.779 --> 00:26:13.113
- Kirk: well, i wish you were here in person, but we'll take you
- 00:26:13.113 --> 00:26:16.683
- Any way that we can get you.
- 00:26:16.683 --> 00:26:18.318
- And this is the time of year where, i don't know about you,
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- But i just find people are a little nicer, they're a little
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- More grateful.
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- The food just smells so good coming out of everybody's
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- Kitchen, the music starts to turn toward christmas, and i
- 00:26:29.463 --> 00:26:32.666
- Absolutely love it.
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- How about you?
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- Sharon: me too.
- 00:26:36.637 --> 00:26:38.038
- I do too, i do, too.
- 00:26:38.038 --> 00:26:39.606
- And i love the fall colors, and now you're in tennessee and
- 00:26:39.606 --> 00:26:42.910
- You're getting to see the beautiful fall foliage in the
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- Carolinas and tennessee.
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- Isn't it great?
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- Kirk: it's just beautiful.
- 00:26:48.549 --> 00:26:49.883
- I was just up in black mountain and i had just a great time over
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- The weekend.
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- Well, we're talking about thanksgiving, we're talking
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- About giving thanks, and the power and importance of
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- Gratitude this time of year.
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- It's important, god tells us in the bible, and i've experienced
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- It myself.
- 00:27:03.997 --> 00:27:05.365
- Sharon, talk to us a little bit about how an attitude of
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- Gratitude has impacted your life.
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- Sharon: you know, what i've come to find out over the past
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- Several years is that we live in a very ungrateful culture,
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- Don't we?
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- I mean, there's just complaining everywhere we turn.
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- But when we start giving thanks and having that attitude of
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- Gratitude that you just mentioned, everything begins
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- To change.
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- We start to hear from god, we start to sense his presence.
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- And you know, right smack-dab in the middle of my bible, psalm
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- 100 says, "enter his gates with thanksgiving, and his courts
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- With praise."
- 00:27:41.268 --> 00:27:42.636
- And i think many times we feel like we're far away from god.
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- I mean, it says in the bible that he's always with us, he's
- 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.508
- Omnipresent, that's for sure.
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- He'll never leave us or forsake us.
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- But we can feel far away from god, and right the middle of our
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- Bible it tells us how to feel close to him.
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- We enter his gates with thanksgiving, we enter his
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- Courts with praise; be thankful to him, bless his holy name.
- 00:28:00.954 --> 00:28:04.224
- It really helps us to feel closer to god and to sense his
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- Presence in our lives.
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- Kirk: i have a friend who likes to say that gratitude is the
- 00:28:08.595 --> 00:28:12.399
- Attitude that determines the altitude for living.
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- And i--isn't that great?
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- It really is true.
- 00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:21.608
- I mean, when i'm filled with gratitude, it's like jet fuel
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- That allows me to climb up over and transcend the gravity of,
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- And the downward drag, of whiners and complainers and
- 00:28:31.318 --> 00:28:35.689
- Critics, and get up above the clouds where, you know, the air
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- Is fresh, the sun is shining, and the future looks bright.
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- Sharon: and we see that with david in the psalms, don't we?
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- Many times in the psalms he'll start out and he'll be in a bad
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- Situation, he'll be complaining.
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- "oh lord, i feel like i'm just drying up.
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- Where are you, lord?"
- 00:28:53.573 --> 00:28:55.008
- And then he says, you know, "awake, my soul," wait a minute.
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- Then he starts praising god for who he is and what he's done,
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- And everything changes.
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- I mean, his circumstances don't change, but his attitude changes
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- Because his problems start to grow smaller and his lord begins
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- To--his vision of the lord begins to grow larger.
- 00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:15.996
- So that's what happens when we have gratitude.
- 00:29:15.996 --> 00:29:18.098
- And i love that--i looked at the hebrew word for gratitude
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- Actually means recognizing the good.
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- Don't you love that?
- 00:29:25.372 --> 00:29:26.707
- So when we're having that attitude of gratitude, we're
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- Recognizing the good that is in our lives, the good that god has
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- Given us.
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- Kirk: i really think that gratitude is a superpower.
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- I mean, if you and i can learn to be grateful in all
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- Circumstances, like the scripture tells us to do, give
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- Thanks in all circumstances and in all things give thanks to the
- 00:29:44.925 --> 00:29:48.528
- Lord, if i can learn how to do that, it really transforms
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- Everything that you're looking at, whether it's something that
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- Is easy to be grateful for or it's something that is a hard
- 00:29:56.737 --> 00:30:00.574
- Thing and a difficult thing.
- 00:30:00.574 --> 00:30:02.576
- So, sharon, why do you think it's so difficult for us to feel
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- Gratitude, or at least, to say thanks when we know it is the
- 00:30:05.445 --> 00:30:10.183
- Very thing that changes everything?
- 00:30:10.183 --> 00:30:12.152
- Why do we struggle?
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- Sharon: well, i think, you know, some people would say that the
- 00:30:13.520 --> 00:30:15.689
- Opposite of gratitude is ingratitude, but i think the
- 00:30:15.689 --> 00:30:19.259
- Opposite of gratitude is entitlement because we think
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- We're entitled for something more.
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- And you know, we can go back and look in the bible, and i love
- 00:30:25.932 --> 00:30:28.668
- Looking at the story of how moses brought the israelites out
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- Of egypt, and they were so thankful.
- 00:30:33.540 --> 00:30:36.043
- Remember when they crossed the red sea on dry land, and then
- 00:30:36.043 --> 00:30:38.678
- The enemies came, and god brought the water back and they
- 00:30:38.678 --> 00:30:42.015
- All drowned, and they had the big praise party afterwards?
- 00:30:42.015 --> 00:30:45.452
- And they were so thankful for about a minute, and then they
- 00:30:45.452 --> 00:30:48.922
- Got to a place, and it says they grumbled because the water
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- Was bitter.
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- God told moses to put that stick in the water, it made it sweet,
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- And they were so happy for about a minute.
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- And as they go through that journey to the promised land,
- 00:30:58.732 --> 00:31:01.568
- They grumbled and they grumbled.
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- They grumbled because there wasn't food.
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- They grumbled because they were tired of manna.
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- They grumbled because, again, there wasn't water, and the
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- Water came from the rock.
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- And they grumbled again about the water.
- 00:31:11.678 --> 00:31:13.947
- And then they got to the promised land, and god sent in
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- The 12 spies, and they came back out and ten said, "we can't go
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- In because there are giants in the land and we look like
- 00:31:21.121 --> 00:31:23.557
- Grasshoppers to ourselves and to them."
- 00:31:23.557 --> 00:31:25.692
- But two said, "we can go in because god's
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- Already given it to us."
- 00:31:28.829 --> 00:31:30.163
- You know, when i've--i've read that story for so long and i
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- Thought, yep, they didn't get in because of unbelief, and that is
- 00:31:32.866 --> 00:31:35.902
- True, but what is so poignant there, kirk, is that it says god
- 00:31:35.902 --> 00:31:40.340
- Said to them, "all of you who have grumbled against me will
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- Not go in."
- 00:31:44.945 --> 00:31:46.279
- So the generation didn't go into the promised land because of
- 00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:50.283
- Their grumbling, and that can keep us from our personal
- 00:31:50.283 --> 00:31:53.320
- Promised land, keep us from seeing what god wants us to see,
- 00:31:53.320 --> 00:31:57.224
- From hearing what god wants to hear.
- 00:31:57.224 --> 00:31:59.392
- And it just is really a block in our relationship with the lord.
- 00:31:59.392 --> 00:32:03.396
- And it's so contagious.
- 00:32:03.396 --> 00:32:05.398
- I think about when they started grumbling, i don't know how it
- 00:32:05.398 --> 00:32:09.069
- Went, but i imagine it was something like this.
- 00:32:09.069 --> 00:32:11.238
- Someone walked out of their tent one morning and said, "you know,
- 00:32:11.238 --> 00:32:13.874
- I am sick of this manna."
- 00:32:13.874 --> 00:32:15.675
- And then the neighbor said, "you know what, i'm sick of it too."
- 00:32:15.675 --> 00:32:18.645
- And then the next person and the next person, and it
- 00:32:18.645 --> 00:32:20.780
- Just spreads.
- 00:32:20.780 --> 00:32:22.149
- And we have social media to do that today, but that negativity
- 00:32:22.149 --> 00:32:25.519
- Just spreads and spreads, and it's so contagious.
- 00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.355
- But here's the good news: just as ingratitude and grumbling is
- 00:32:28.355 --> 00:32:32.459
- Contagious, so is gratitude.
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- Kirk: yes, i think you're right.
- 00:32:35.595 --> 00:32:37.597
- And thank you for spelling that out for us and reminding us that
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- The enemy of gratitude is entitlement.
- 00:32:41.601 --> 00:32:45.572
- And i can't think of a better word to describe the way so many
- 00:32:45.572 --> 00:32:49.376
- People feel today after being fed the message that, "you
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- Deserve this, you ought to have this.
- 00:32:54.915 --> 00:32:56.917
- Don't let anybody tell you that you can't do what you want.
- 00:32:56.917 --> 00:33:00.187
- You ought to have--" and people just have this idea that they
- 00:33:00.187 --> 00:33:05.992
- Deserve all good all the time, the way that they want it, when
- 00:33:05.992 --> 00:33:12.065
- In truth, we don't want what we are entitled to.
- 00:33:12.065 --> 00:33:15.001
- I mean, as a christian we understand that the only thing
- 00:33:15.001 --> 00:33:17.771
- God is entitled to give us is not his love, it's not his
- 00:33:17.771 --> 00:33:22.342
- Mercy, it's not his grace.
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- These things are lavish gifts that we do not deserve.
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- If he was entitled to give us anything, it would be that which
- 00:33:29.049 --> 00:33:32.352
- Falls in accordance to his justice, and that would be his
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- Wrath because of my sin, because of my selfishness and my pride.
- 00:33:36.690 --> 00:33:41.094
- So i don't want entitlement.
- 00:33:41.094 --> 00:33:43.096
- Being an entitled person is the awfullest thing you could be.
- 00:33:43.096 --> 00:33:46.933
- I wanna be a grateful person because he offers me something
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- That i'm not entitled to.
- 00:33:50.971 --> 00:33:52.339
- Right, that's the message of the gospel.
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- Sharon: and when you think about it, when we are grumbling and
- 00:33:54.441 --> 00:33:56.643
- Complaining, it is a casual despising of the sovereignty
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- Of god.
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- And that's what we see with the people of israel, and that's
- 00:34:01.748 --> 00:34:04.918
- What we see with us today.
- 00:34:04.918 --> 00:34:06.620
- When we are complaining and grumbling, it's like we think we
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- Deserve better and we think we can do it better.
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- So that's what--we're kind of despising god's sovereignty and
- 00:34:12.892 --> 00:34:15.528
- Saying, "you know what, let me handle this.
- 00:34:15.528 --> 00:34:17.163
- I can do it."
- 00:34:17.163 --> 00:34:18.531
- Kirk: yeah, it's almost like saying, "you know, god, if i
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- Were on the throne, i wouldn't have gone--let it go down
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- That way."
- 00:34:22.636 --> 00:34:23.970
- Now, we don't think we're saying that, but essentially we are
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- Because we're getting frustrated, we're bowing up
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- Against the sovereign decrees and ordinances of god, who in
- 00:34:29.676 --> 00:34:34.347
- His wisdom and providence decreed that things would go
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- Down this way.
- 00:34:36.916 --> 00:34:38.251
- And we've got to remember that he's working all things together
- 00:34:38.251 --> 00:34:42.055
- For good and that trials and challenges are actually brought
- 00:34:42.055 --> 00:34:45.692
- To us on purpose to train within us the kind of character
- 00:34:45.692 --> 00:34:51.131
- Qualities that will conform us more to the image of his son.
- 00:34:51.131 --> 00:34:55.535
- So if we don't get gratitude right, we are--we're not going
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- To get there.
- 00:35:00.507 --> 00:35:01.875
- We're just going to stay in kindergarten christianity.
- 00:35:01.875 --> 00:35:04.711
- Sharon: and honestly, it's like, you know, when you go to get
- 00:35:04.711 --> 00:35:07.047
- Your eyes examined and they bring down the lens, which do
- 00:35:07.047 --> 00:35:10.083
- You see better, lens one, or lens two?
- 00:35:10.083 --> 00:35:12.085
- Lens three, or lens four?
- 00:35:12.085 --> 00:35:13.887
- And when we have that attitude of complaining and grumbling, it
- 00:35:13.887 --> 00:35:17.691
- Is like we are looking at life through the wrong lens.
- 00:35:17.691 --> 00:35:21.027
- So when you look at life through the sovereignty of god rather
- 00:35:21.027 --> 00:35:23.897
- Than the selfishness of man, we are looking through a very
- 00:35:23.897 --> 00:35:27.600
- Blurry lens.
- 00:35:27.600 --> 00:35:28.968
- But when we look at life through the sovereignty of god and
- 00:35:28.968 --> 00:35:31.971
- The--and gratitude and thanksgiving, everything becomes
- 00:35:31.971 --> 00:35:35.475
- More clear.
- 00:35:35.475 --> 00:35:36.810
- We can see it better.
- 00:35:36.810 --> 00:35:38.178
- And the thing is, god is always working behind the scenes to
- 00:35:38.178 --> 00:35:41.514
- Bring about our better good.
- 00:35:41.514 --> 00:35:42.849
- As you just mentioned, we have trials in our life, we
- 00:35:42.849 --> 00:35:45.151
- Have troubles.
- 00:35:45.151 --> 00:35:46.519
- But where we see trials, god sees training.
- 00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:49.556
- So you got trials and training.
- 00:35:49.556 --> 00:35:51.291
- Which lens are we looking at the situation through?
- 00:35:51.291 --> 00:35:54.828
- And when we look at it through the right lens, then we will be
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- Grateful, even in the struggles that we have.
- 00:35:58.098 --> 00:36:00.967
- Kirk: how do we go to god with specific requests?
- 00:36:00.967 --> 00:36:04.104
- He tells us in his word, "rejoice in the lord always.
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- Don't worry about anything, but in all things be grateful, be
- 00:36:08.408 --> 00:36:11.644
- Thankful, and bring your requests to the lord with a
- 00:36:11.644 --> 00:36:15.382
- Thankful heart."
- 00:36:15.382 --> 00:36:17.016
- How do i go to god with the--with my requests and not
- 00:36:17.016 --> 00:36:21.654
- Become filled with a spirit of entitlement?
- 00:36:21.654 --> 00:36:25.392
- Because he says whatever i ask in his
- 00:36:25.392 --> 00:36:28.027
- Name he's gonna give it to me.
- 00:36:28.027 --> 00:36:29.362
- So what if god doesn't give that to me?
- 00:36:29.362 --> 00:36:31.698
- Should i stop asking him for things and just be content and
- 00:36:31.698 --> 00:36:34.234
- Grateful for what i have, or can i come to him with requests and
- 00:36:34.234 --> 00:36:37.670
- Still be content?
- 00:36:37.670 --> 00:36:39.038
- Sharon: well, the bible does tell us when we pray to knock
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- And keep knocking.
- 00:36:40.940 --> 00:36:42.308
- So we--don't say anything in scripture that tells us to stop
- 00:36:42.308 --> 00:36:45.578
- Praying a certain prayer.
- 00:36:45.578 --> 00:36:47.547
- However, there comes a point where we get an answer and, you
- 00:36:47.547 --> 00:36:50.884
- Know what, kirk, the answer might be no.
- 00:36:50.884 --> 00:36:53.019
- And if we get that answer that is no, then we're still going to
- 00:36:53.019 --> 00:36:56.189
- Thank god for that.
- 00:36:56.189 --> 00:36:57.557
- We're going to thank him because we know that he's got a better
- 00:36:57.557 --> 00:37:00.059
- Plan, something that we can't see, and we might never know why
- 00:37:00.059 --> 00:37:04.931
- That answer was no, but no is an answer.
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- Kirk: we're gonna talk more with sharon about the importance of a
- 00:37:08.268 --> 00:37:10.937
- Biblical attitude of gratitude and how to avoid the habit of a
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- Grumbling and complaining spirit that robs us of
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- Joy, so stay with us.
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- Kirk: we're back with author and women speaker sharon jaynes.
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- Sharon, we've been talking all about gratitude and having a
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- Heart full of thanks even for things that are difficult.
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- And i loved how you talked about the different lenses.
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- You know, lens number one, or lens number two?
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- Lens number three, or lens--what--at what point does
- 00:37:45.539 --> 00:37:48.108
- It come clear?
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- And you say that the lens of gratitude changes everything.
- 00:37:49.443 --> 00:37:52.880
- Can you just unpack that for us a little bit more?
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- Sharon: you know, i love that illustration because, first of
- 00:37:56.283 --> 00:37:59.253
- All, i just had an eye exam and just brought it all back to me.
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- But when i wrote the book, "when you don't like your story: what
- 00:38:02.289 --> 00:38:05.526
- If your worst chapters could become your greatest victories?"
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- One thing that i realized as i was talking to different people
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- About their difficult stories and what they learned from them,
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- That the people who looked at their stories, the difficult
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- Parts of their lives through that lens of gratitude and what
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- They learned from it and what they got from it, they had an
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- Entirely different perspective.
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- Now, one gal that i talked to had a very difficult marriage,
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- But she said, "i am so thankful for the three children that i
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- Have and i am so thankful for the way my faith
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- Grew during that time."
- 00:38:38.125 --> 00:38:39.459
- She said, "if i hadn't gone through that struggle, i would
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- Have had a very lazy, simple faith.
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- But because of those struggles, i know what it means to depend
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- On jesus when you can't depend on anybody else.
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- I know what it means to have jesus as my rock and my savior.
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- I know what it means to have jesus as my provider when i
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- Didn't have anyone else providing for me."
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- And you see what she's doing there, kirk.
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- She's looking at her difficult chapter through that lens of
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- Gratitude, of what god did for me to get me
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- On the other side of it.
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- And something you mentioned in the first segment about how when
- 00:39:10.457 --> 00:39:13.660
- We go through difficulties, we can then use what we've gone
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- Through to help other people.
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- What a praise and thankful heart we can have to do that.
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- You know, it tells us in 1 corinthians that god comforts us
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- In all of our struggle so that we can comfort others with the
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- Struggles we've gone through as well.
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- And that's basically saying that god doesn't comfort us just to
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- Make us comfortable, but god comforts us to make us
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- Comfort-able so we can then use what we've gone through to help
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- Someone else.
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- And that is wonderful, that's the power of our story.
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- And we can be so grateful that god has allowed us to go through
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- Those difficulties.
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- And in my own life, just being raised in a home with an
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- Alcoholic father, difficulties there, and i now use all of that
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- To help other women who are going through difficulties
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- As well.
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- And i just praise god for that.
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- I don't look back on the difficulties and i'm not bitter
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- Or resentful about it.
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- I'm praising god for it, and we can praise god for those
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- Difficulties, how he got us through it, how he got us over
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- It so then that we can still, now, use that to help
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- Other people.
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- And that is so much joy, to be able to do that.
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- Kirk: that's it, i love it, that god's not looking to make us
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- Comfortable, he's looking to make us more comfort-able, to
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- Comfort those--and gratitude is the key.
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- We've got to grab ahold of gratitude.
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- You know, and--you say, you know what, it--we can't say, you
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- Know, "i don't like my annoying mother-in-law," or, "i'm
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- Just--god, why did you give me an alcoholic father?"
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- We need to be able to say, "i'm thankful for my
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- Alcoholic father.
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- I'm not thankful that he is involved in alcoholism, but,
- 00:40:49.423 --> 00:40:52.592
- God, you have something very important in the story that
- 00:40:52.592 --> 00:40:56.396
- People are reading about my life and his life," or, "i'm grateful
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- For my annoying mother-in-law and i'm so thankful for what
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- You're going to teach me through this.
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- Maybe i need to learn how to love my enemies.
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- Maybe i need to learn how to be more patient and kind with those
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- Who are irritating, and maybe i'm able to help bring that
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- Person some comfort with my patience that's going to change
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- Their life, and love and care for them the way, god, that
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- You've cared for me when i was your enemy
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- And when i was annoying."
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- All of these things are part of the process that make us into
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- The people he wants us to be, aren't they?
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- Sharon: right, and you know, that's how i became a christian
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- As a teenager, through a woman in my neighborhood.
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- Then three years later my mom came to christ.
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- But my father, that mean alcoholic man, he did come to
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- Christ, too, but the way he came to christ was that he met a man
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- In pennsylvania.
- 00:41:52.652 --> 00:41:53.987
- I'm in north carolina, he went to pennsylvania, he met a man
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- And he asked this man to pray for him, and the man said,
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- "well, tell me your story."
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- And then what my father told me, this man who happened to be a
- 00:42:01.862 --> 00:42:04.831
- Pastor, he said, "after i told this man everything i've done,
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- That pastor told me his story.
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- He had done everything i had done.
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- And i knew that if god could forgive him, that he could
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- Forgive me too."
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- And see, that's the joy of it, isn't it?
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- God--this a man that's not ashamed to tell what he's gone
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- Through, told what god had done for him, and my father saw jesus
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- In that man.
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- So it's so important that we use what we've gone through, and be
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- Thankful for it, because there's somebody that needs to hear
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- That story.
- 00:42:32.826 --> 00:42:34.194
- But i would love to go back to that whole lens thing a minute.
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- I want to go back to that because i think when we look at
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- Life through the lens of gratitude, we do see
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- Things differently.
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- And i was so convicted of this one day when i was traveling
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- From pennsylvania back to north carolina.
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- I had done a speaking thing on a christmas--i mean, on a--it was
- 00:42:50.544 --> 00:42:54.214
- A good friday easter service.
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- And when i was traveling back, it was supposed to be quick
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- Flight, and there were storms and it was delayed and delayed
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- And delayed.
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- Flights were canceled.
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- And finally, about 12 hours after i was supposed to get on
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- The plane, we finally got on the plane, got to north carolina,
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- And then we were--couldn't land because of a storm.
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- We had to land 90 miles away, and then the time timed out for
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- The crew and they couldn't fly anymore.
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- So then they put us on these eight vans to drive us the rest
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- Of the way home, an hour and a half, and there was a woman and
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- Her daughter sitting in front of me.
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- And i'll be honest with you, kirk, i was not praising
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- The lord.
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- I was grumbling, i was mad about it, and i was saying, "lord,
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- What are you doing here?"
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- I was not happy.
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- I had a bad attitude of ingratitude and entitlement, i
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- Might add.
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- But as we were coming towards charlotte, the heater was
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- Broken, it was really hot, the woman in front of me drew a
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- Smiley face on the glass.
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- And i thought to myself, what does she have to be
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- Smiling about?
- 00:44:03.116 --> 00:44:04.484
- There is nothing smily about this situation.
- 00:44:04.484 --> 00:44:07.287
- Well, i had gotten to know them a little bit, and when we
- 00:44:07.287 --> 00:44:10.056
- Finally got to charlotte and they--we got out of the van
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- About midnight.
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- I turned to the girl, her name was beth, and it was beth and
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- Her mom and they were coming to visit the second daughter.
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- I said, "beth, y'all have a great time visiting with
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- Your sister."
- 00:44:25.071 --> 00:44:26.406
- And she said, "oh, we will.
- 00:44:26.406 --> 00:44:28.074
- My mom just found out she has cancer for the second time and
- 00:44:28.074 --> 00:44:32.679
- It looks like she's not gonna make it this time, so we're
- 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:36.283
- Gonna have one more girls weekend together and it might be
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- Our last."
- 00:44:40.153 --> 00:44:41.521
- And, kirk, then i looked back at that van with a smiley face
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- Drawn on the window by a dying woman and i was so convicted
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- About how i had been so ungrateful all day because i
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- Was inconvenienced.
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- But this woman was grateful because she had another day
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- Of life.
- 00:45:02.976 --> 00:45:04.678
- You see, that's the difference when we look through--are we
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- Looking through the right lens?
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- Am i looking through the lens of the selfishness of sharon who
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- Wants it to go my way all the time, or am i looking at it
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- Through the lens of just being grateful that i have
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- Another day?
- 00:45:19.192 --> 00:45:20.827
- And you see those two women, me and that woman, and the
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- Difference it made in our attitude that day.
- 00:45:24.030 --> 00:45:26.866
- Kirk: attitude is everything, it changes the way that we live.
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- Sharon, talk with us about how, in practical terms, we can cast
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- Our cares upon the lord, that's what scriptures say, because he
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- Cares for us, and not have that be a backdoor into complaining?
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- "lord, these are my cares.
- 00:45:45.418 --> 00:45:47.020
- Oh god, why are these things happening to me?
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- I want to cast my cares upon you without complaining about
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- Those cares."
- 00:45:52.826 --> 00:45:54.261
- You see what i'm saying?
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- Sharon: well, you mentioned a--yes, you mentioned a
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- Verse in the first segment.
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- It says to give--pray about everything with thanksgiving,
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- And i think that's it right there.
- 00:46:06.206 --> 00:46:08.041
- It's you're praying about everything, but you're doing it
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- With thanksgiving.
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- So it's not just--we're not just giving a list of all our
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- Complaints and our ailments.
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- And if we are, we need to rethink that.
- 00:46:16.816 --> 00:46:19.386
- Yes, we do cast all our cares upon the lord.
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- And i love that word "cast," it really means throw.
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- Throw them, throw them at, you know, just throw them
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- Jesus's feet.
- 00:46:27.327 --> 00:46:28.695
- And we're not meant to carry those, but we're still--we have
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- A--still have an attitude of thanksgiving, because if the
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- Answer is no, if we're going back to that, you know, that is
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- An answer, and praising god, again, for that as well.
- 00:46:37.304 --> 00:46:40.407
- But i think that we tend to have the prayer list with everything
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- That we want and all of our needs, but we're forgetting that
- 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:48.448
- Very first part.
- 00:46:48.448 --> 00:46:49.783
- And for me, when i pray, i always spend the first part of
- 00:46:49.783 --> 00:46:53.586
- It in--doing what it says in psalm 100.
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- Says, "enter his gates with thanksgiving, and his courts
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- With praise."
- 00:46:59.492 --> 00:47:00.827
- So i begin by praising god for who he is and then thanking god
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- For what he does.
- 00:47:05.131 --> 00:47:07.200
- And then i have my list of prayer requests and then i close
- 00:47:07.200 --> 00:47:10.970
- It back up and i end, again, with thanking god for what he
- 00:47:10.970 --> 00:47:14.941
- Does and praising him for who he is.
- 00:47:14.941 --> 00:47:17.243
- So it's a sandwich, basically a sandwich.
- 00:47:17.243 --> 00:47:20.246
- We've got the praise and thanksgiving on the beginning
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- And the end.
- 00:47:22.549 --> 00:47:23.883
- And i think when we do that, it helps us remind us, again, of
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- The sovereignty of god.
- 00:47:26.553 --> 00:47:28.021
- Yes, we've got our needs and we've got our desires in there,
- 00:47:28.021 --> 00:47:31.858
- But still, god's in control, god is in his throne--on his throne,
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- And he is gonna do--do what is best, whether we think it's best
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- For us or not.
- 00:47:41.067 --> 00:47:42.435
- Kirk: that's right, and if we think about it, it's not like he
- 00:47:42.435 --> 00:47:46.239
- Hasn't taken care of us in the past.
- 00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:48.675
- If i've got a memory of the things he's done for me in the
- 00:47:48.675 --> 00:47:51.544
- Past, that's gonna help me to be thankful now.
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- Not just because of his sovereignty, although
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- That's--that is enough.
- 00:47:55.248 --> 00:47:57.384
- Not just because he's faithful and kind, in theory, but because
- 00:47:57.384 --> 00:48:01.921
- He's demonstrated his kindness and his faithfulness to me in
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- The past.
- 00:48:05.158 --> 00:48:06.493
- He saved me, he found me when i wasn't looking for him.
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- He has gotten me this far in my life.
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- He has given me promises that i can stand on.
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- He's granted me with friends and family and he's taken hard
- 00:48:14.134 --> 00:48:18.037
- Things and turned it into the best things in the past.
- 00:48:18.037 --> 00:48:20.740
- Why wouldn't he do it again in this thing now?
- 00:48:20.740 --> 00:48:24.344
- Isn't that a good reason to be grateful?
- 00:48:24.344 --> 00:48:26.546
- Sharon: absolutely, and you mentioned, what are some
- 00:48:26.546 --> 00:48:28.515
- Practical things that we can do?
- 00:48:28.515 --> 00:48:30.483
- What you just said right there, that list, that's a great list.
- 00:48:30.483 --> 00:48:33.353
- But you know what?
- 00:48:33.353 --> 00:48:34.687
- We have a very short memory.
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- And when you go through and you read in exodus about how they
- 00:48:36.055 --> 00:48:38.725
- Were grateful and then they complained, how they were
- 00:48:38.725 --> 00:48:40.727
- Grateful and then they complained?
- 00:48:40.727 --> 00:48:42.095
- They had a very short memory, and we have a very short memory.
- 00:48:42.095 --> 00:48:45.532
- So what do you do about that?
- 00:48:45.532 --> 00:48:46.866
- I think we write it down.
- 00:48:46.866 --> 00:48:48.368
- And people have been doing this for years and years and years,
- 00:48:48.368 --> 00:48:51.438
- But have a gratitude journal, or have something that you write
- 00:48:51.438 --> 00:48:55.041
- Down something every day that you're grateful for, or with
- 00:48:55.041 --> 00:48:57.844
- Your family as you come together at the dinner table and you say
- 00:48:57.844 --> 00:49:00.814
- Your blessing over your food, have each one say
- 00:49:00.814 --> 00:49:04.317
- That--something that you're grateful for that day.
- 00:49:04.317 --> 00:49:06.619
- You know, we're getting ready to go into thanksgiving.
- 00:49:06.619 --> 00:49:08.855
- Have people go around the table, say what they're thankful for,
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- Make a list of what you're thankful for.
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- And--but i think that journal thing is such a good idea.
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- You can just jot down what you're thankful for that day and
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- It's a great way to help us to remember and not forget all the
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- Ways that god has blessed us and all that we have to be
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- Thankful for.
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- Kirk: sharon, thank you so much for joining us.
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- I'm thankful for you.
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- We all have so much to be thankful for this year.
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- After the break we'll review some of our takeaways from our
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- Conversations with sharon and jack hibbs, so don't go away.
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- Kirk: i really appreciated hearing more about the
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- Importance of gratitude from pastor jack and sharon today.
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- Let's review our takeaways.
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- Gratitude positions us.
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- Pastor jack shared such a great insight.
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- He said that gratitude puts us in a position to receive
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- From god.
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- That's because expressing gratitude changes the view of
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- What's being processed through our senses.
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- We actually see, hear, and experience life differently.
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- If we understand that nothing comes to us that hasn't been
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- Father-filtered, then we have the right view every time.
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- Serving others is a pathway to gratitude.
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- It's easy to be thankful when everything is going our way, but
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- The way to stay thankful is to serve others.
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- Pastor jack said that being a servant to those who are
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- Suffering is what keeps his heart right.
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- Serving others reminds us that life can be difficult but god
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- Walks with us through it all, and that allows us to be
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- Grateful no matter the circumstances.
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- Gratitude is a superpower.
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- My friend likes to say gratitude is the attitude that determines
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- The altitude for living.
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- Sharon reminded us that we need to see all of life through the
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- Lens of gratitude.
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- So if gratitude is a superpower, that also means that grumbling
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- Is kryptonite.
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- Grumbling kept the children of israel out of the promised land,
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- And it keeps us out from our personal promised lands.
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- Choosing gratitude is choosing life.
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- Make gratitude your bookends, sharon shared that the way to
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- Feel close to god during tough times is to enter his gates with
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- Thanksgiving, like it says in psalm 100.
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- But she also encouraged us to exit his gates the same way.
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- We first thank god for his goodness, and then we bring our
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- Very real cares and concerns to him, casting our cares upon the
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- Lord, then we end the prayer the same way we entered,
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- With gratitude.
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- So even in difficult times, it's important to remember that god
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- Doesn't comfort us to make us comfortable, but to make
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- Us comfort-able.
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- That is, more able to offer comfort to others.
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- That's all for this episode of "takeaways."
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- Thanks for watching.
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- And if you've enjoyed this show, don't forget to set your dvr so
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- You never miss an episode.
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- Searching for "takeaways" on tbn+, or by visiting the "kirk
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- We'll see you here next time for more great conversations.
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