Jack Hibbs & Sharon Jaynes: Cultivating an Attitude of Gratitude | Takeaways with Kirk Cameron

November 25, 2024 | 52:59

Kirk Cameron is joined by Pastor Jack Hibbs, along with author and speaker Sharon Jaynes, to discuss a biblical perspective on thanksgiving and choosing to see life’s circumstances through a lens of gratitude.

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Takeaways with Kirk Cameron | Jack Hibbs & Sharon Jaynes: Cultivating an Attitude of Gratitude | Takeaways with Kirk Cameron | November 25, 2024
  • Kirk cameron: what does it look like to live out the biblical
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  • Call to be thankful in all circumstances?
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  • And how would making time to give thanks to god each day
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  • Change us.
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  • We're gonna answer all these questions and more as we dive
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  • Into the topics of gratitude and thanksgiving with pastor jack
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  • Hibbs and author and speaker sharon jaynes.
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  • Let's talk about it all right now on "takeaways."
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  • Jack hibbs: i always stake my flag of thankfulness in the fact
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  • That he is our immovable god.
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  • The god of jacob, the scripture says in psalm 47, is our refuge.
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  • Every day i rejoice in his steadfastness.
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  • Sharon jaynes: when we have that attitude of complaining and
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  • Grumbling, it is like we are looking at life through the
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  • Wrong lens.
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  • So when you look at life through the sovereignty of god rather
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  • Than the selfishness of man, everything becomes more clear.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Kirk: hey, everybody, we're kicking off today's
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  • Conversations with jack hibbs, the senior and founding pastor
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  • Of calvary chapel chino hills.
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  • Jack, thank you so much for joining us on "takeaways."
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  • Jack: listen, kirk, thank you for having me.
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  • Thrilled to be with you again always.
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  • Kirk: you know, you're doing such amazing
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  • Things in chino hills.
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  • I love coming to your church, my kids love coming to your church,
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  • And i love the way that you have just obliterated this lie of the
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  • Separation of church and state, understood wrongly, and you're
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  • Getting christians to permeate every aspect of local government
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  • And school boards and everything else.
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  • And you're seeing wins everywhere
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  • After this last election, right?
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  • Aren't there christians who are now hugely influential
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  • As salt and light?
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  • Jack: thirty-five years, kirk, of doing this.
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  • We've always been engaged in the culture.
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  • We have always had our heartbeat, as it were, or our
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  • Pulse on the community.
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  • We believe that that's what a real new testament church is, to
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  • Be that--of salt and light.
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  • And now after all these years, the rewards the lord blessed
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  • With in this last election from local school boards, mayor
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  • Races, city council, county, and then of course, in california
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  • The data is overwhelmingly that the church got up and voted
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  • In california.
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  • Kirk: wow, this is so exciting.
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  • Well, jack, we're moving into the holiday season with
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  • Thanksgiving and christmas.
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  • What's something that you're particularly thankful for
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  • Right now?
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  • Jack: i'm thankful for this, no matter how the election goes and
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  • No matter how my health might be, no matter what the economy
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  • Looks like, no matter what, this is what i'm always thankful for.
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  • This is where i stake my flag, kirk, and that is in the fact
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  • That our lord never changes.
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  • He's not subject to elections.
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  • He's not subject to the weather.
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  • He's not subject to seasons.
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  • I always take my flag of thankfulness in the fact that he
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  • Is our immovable god.
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  • The god of jacob, the scripture says in psalm 47, is our refuge.
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  • And i revel in that every day.
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  • I'm thankful for him and his immovable attributes.
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  • Every day i rejoice in his steadfastness.
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  • Kirk: yes, well, jack, as you're teaching your flock there at
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  • Calvary chapel chino hills, what scriptures do you like to point
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  • Your congregation to, to get them thinking about gratitude?
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  • Jack: there's so many.
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  • Obviously, the go-to: jeremiah 29:11, god knows the thoughts
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  • That he thinks towards us regarding our future, and that
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  • Is for us to have a hope and to have a full and complete
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  • Fulfilled life.
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  • I--we always talk about titus 2:13, i wiggle that into every
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  • Sermon as much as possible, that "while we wait for the blessed
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  • Hope and the glorious appearing of our great god and savior,
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  • Jesus christ."
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  • That gets me excited because we don't know when he's coming
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  • Back, so i wanna live every day as though it's so urgent.
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  • And then of course, i revel in the fact that "as far as the
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  • East is from the west, so far the lord has removed our sins
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  • From us."
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  • He's gonna complete the work that he started within us.
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  • I mean, it's endless.
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  • And so i wanna hide these promises of his in my heart and
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  • That's what fires up my life, yeah, totally.
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  • Kirk: so, jack, is there a difference, do you think, about
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  • The gratitude that the sons of disobedience, those who are
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  • Wrapped up and enslaved to this godless world system that we see
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  • Around us, and the gratitude in the heart of a believer?
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  • Because the secular culture can say, "yeah, i'm thankful.
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  • I'm thankful for a lot of things."
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  • But what's the difference between that and being thankful
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  • To god?
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  • Jack: the difference is infinite for this reason, number one,
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  • Let's say my neighbor's really happy because he just got a
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  • Brand-new corvette, okay?
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  • And he's so happy.
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  • He doesn't want anything to do with god because he, listen,
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  • He's got the wealth right now, kirk,
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  • I'm being kind of sarcastic.
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  • He's got the wealth of being very healthy.
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  • He's got the wealth of being able to make money.
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  • He's got the wealth that his family's okay.
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  • Everything's fine.
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  • But the difference happens is when the job is gone, the car is
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  • Repossessed, or he's got a lump, you know, in his chest or in his
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  • Liver, then his world falls apart because he's got
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  • No foundation.
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  • And for me, on the other hand, they can take away this--they
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  • Can come and steal my '67 volkswagen that i have.
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  • You know what, it's just a piece of metal.
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  • It was cool, but i can live without it.
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  • My house could burn down.
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  • That's okay.
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  • The place where lisa and i are heading is eternal.
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  • Do i thank god for the things that he has given us?
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  • Absolutely.
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  • But i thank him for these things.
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  • These things are not the things that determine my thankfulness.
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  • It's him that determines my thankfulness.
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  • Everything i have, the health that i have at this moment,
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  • Kirk, to be speaking with you, i owe that to him, and my body
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  • Belongs to him.
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  • If he decides to do other things with my body, i rejoice.
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  • I'm here to serve him in life and in death.
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  • Kirk: well, that just brings a consistency to your emotions.
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  • It takes you off the roller coaster ride of, now we're up
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  • And now we're down, and it gives you this peace.
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  • I have a wise old owl in my life who likes to remind me, i
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  • Believe it's of psalm 73, wherein it says, "the goodness
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  • Of the lord"--i'm sorry, "the nearness of the lord is
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  • My good."
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  • And we're always thankful for the good
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  • Things, not for the bad things.
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  • But if the epitome of my good is the nearness of god, well, he's
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  • Told me he's never gonna leave me, he's never gonna forsake me.
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  • The lord is near to me always.
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  • That means it's always a good day.
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  • It means i can always be thankful no matter what's
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  • Happening circumstantially.
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  • Jack: so powerful what you just said.
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  • I hope everyone grasped what you just announced because as soon
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  • As you said that, kirk, my mind went to matthew 6:33: "seek
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  • First the kingdom of god, and all these other
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  • Things will be added to you."
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  • We don't need to worry. we don't need to sweat.
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  • We don't need to panic.
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  • We need to present ourselves to the lord and, listen, like keith
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  • Green used to say way back in the '70s, he would say this--oh
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  • Yeah, i got--listen, i got saved at a church event at calvary
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  • Costa mesa where greg laurie was preaching the gospel, i didn't
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  • Even know who he was, and keith green was playing the piano and
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  • Worship, i didn't know who he was.
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  • But keith green used to say, "listen, commit ourselves to the
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  • Lord, do our best, and he'll take care of the rest."
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  • And i love that. it's simple, i'm simple.
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  • It's what i need, it's what i do.
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  • I revel in him, not in my circumstances.
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  • That those change all the time, but he never changes.
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  • Kirk: when we understand the sovereignty of god and the
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  • Character, his faithfulness, his love for us, his promises that
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  • He's working all things together for good, that changes
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  • Everything because, you know, sometimes, i don't know about
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  • You, jack, but sometimes i'm looking forward and i say,
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  • "well, how could that be a good thing?
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  • How can i be thankful for that?
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  • How can i be thankful that," you know, let's just say--i was
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  • Thinking about this this morning, about the assassination
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  • Attempt of ronald reagan back in the day, and in the
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  • Assassination attempt of donald trump more recently, and yet i
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  • Remember ronald reagan essentially pointed out that it
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  • Was that very event where he referred to it almost as though
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  • God had shot him and to woke him up so that he would understand
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  • Why he put him there in the white house.
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  • And essentially, president-elect trump is saying the same thing.
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  • I mean, he's saying, "i know why god saved me."
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  • I mean, he was this close from it being all over.
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  • And you know what, i think that the united states of america was
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  • Also this close for it being all over.
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  • We dodged a bullet collectively as a nation and narrowly escaped
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  • 50 years of marxism and socialism in america.
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  • And i can turn around now and say, "thank you, god.
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  • Thank you for this."
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  • This is like a great movie where things seem like they're going
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  • Bad, and then it turns out that these are the plot points that
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  • Make the heroic ending so exciting.
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  • Jack: okay, listen.
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  • Yes to everything you just said, and this: and maybe, maybe
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  • God moved.
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  • From chino hills to knoxville, tennessee--i know this 'cause
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  • We linked up with calvary chapel knoxville, calvary chapel chino
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  • Hills, people were joining us from vietnam, canada, england,
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  • Australia, new zealand.
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  • We fasted and prayed for 21 days regarding god's will to be done
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  • For the election.
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  • Every day, three times a day we gathered, remarkably, and we
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  • Weren't the only ones, kirk.
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  • There were people praying all over for this election.
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  • We know for a fact, kirk, we have friends in israel who were
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  • Praying in prayer groups in israel for this election.
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  • Listen, bottom line is this: i believe that god heard the
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  • Prayer of the remnant of his people, and
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  • What you said is so true.
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  • I have to confess,
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  • Everybody was asking me, "who's gonna win the election?
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  • Who's gonna win the election?"
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  • I actually felt that it would be right for god to give us kamala
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  • Harris because we deserve that, because we've treated god so
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  • Terribly as a nation.
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  • I'm not talking about you or me.
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  • I'm talking about as a nation.
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  • But god heard the cry of his people, he spared us by giving
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  • Us--yes, trump's imperfect; so am i.
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  • But god raises up, daniel
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  • Chapter 2, god raises up kings and he takes kings down.
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  • Boy, friends, listen, this overwhelming victory for donald
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  • Trump has more to do with god being merciful than
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  • Donald trump.
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  • It has more about god being good to us even when we don't deserve
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  • It than it has to do with the republican party.
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  • Forget--don't get bogged down in that's--in the side issues.
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  • God moved, and, kirk, here's the thing.
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  • What are we gonna do with that act of grace and mercy?
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  • You and i need to run the race like we've never run it before.
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  • We've been given a reprieve.
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  • What are we gonna do with it?
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  • It's an end of the moment.
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  • God stayed the hand of judgment.
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  • Justifiably, he could have just fried us.
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  • We've been murdering babies, we've been mocking god, we've
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  • Been allowing satanism and all kinds of things to
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  • Be represented.
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  • God could have just flicked us on into space.
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  • He could have. he didn't.
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  • Why didn't he?
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  • Because "if my people, who are called by my name, will pray,
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  • Humble themselves, seek their--seek my face, repent of
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  • Their sins, i'll hear
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  • From heaven and i'll heal their land."
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  • I believe god did that because he's merciful.
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  • Now, what are we gonna do about this reprieve?
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  • We've got a little window to do righteousness.
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  • Let's do it.
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  • Kirk: and there's no better fuel to fill our veins
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  • Than gratitude.
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  • After the break, we're gonna talk with jack about what it
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  • Really looks like to be thankful in every season.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Kirk: hey, everybody, we're back with pastor jack hibbs,
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  • Talking about the biblical case for thanksgiving and gratitude.
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  • I have a friend, jack, who likes to say that gratitude is the
  • 00:12:46.089 --> 00:12:50.227
  • Attitude that determines the altitude for living.
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  • And i just love that, i can't think of anything that makes me
  • 00:12:54.798 --> 00:12:58.001
  • A happier person, a kinder person, a more forgiving and
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  • Jesus-like person than if i can be thankful in all situations.
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  • How do you get angry when you're actually feeling grateful?
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  • Jack: you know, it's amazing.
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  • You just made me have a little epiphany.
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  • I just realized with what you just said that the people i
  • 00:13:13.684 --> 00:13:16.953
  • Enjoy being around the most just happen to be people who are
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  • Very thankful.
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  • I'm seeing them right now in my mind, kirk.
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  • I know them by name, i see them by face, i talk to them, we go
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  • Out to dinner, we have events together.
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  • And what has caused them to be so attractive to me and
  • 00:13:32.302 --> 00:13:36.206
  • To lisa in our lives?
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  • They are a grateful people, incredible, thankful all
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  • The time.
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  • And that causes me--you know, when somebody's thankful it
  • 00:13:41.845 --> 00:13:43.480
  • Causes me to take stock of my own life.
  • 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.149
  • And for crying out loud, living in america, we've got shoes on
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  • Our feet, we've got clothes on our body.
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  • We should be so thankful.
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  • The greatest cacophony of praise, worship, and
  • 00:13:54.658 --> 00:13:57.894
  • Thanksgiving should be rising up from the nation of america.
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  • We should be a witness to the world of being thankful.
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  • And--but, yeah, i just love it.
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  • I love how it--your friend is right.
  • 00:14:10.107 --> 00:14:12.008
  • It totally changes your attitude.
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  • Because if you're not thankful to god in the midst of difficult
  • 00:14:13.877 --> 00:14:17.614
  • Times, here's the sad thing, you'll become angry,
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  • Questioning, bitter.
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  • You'll accuse god of why things are wrong, and that's a
  • 00:14:23.754 --> 00:14:28.258
  • Dangerous, dark place to be.
  • 00:14:28.258 --> 00:14:30.794
  • Because the bottom line, my goodness, when the things shake
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  • And when things are burning and everything else is looking wrong
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  • In the world, even those things, kirk, the bible announces that
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  • He's in control, he's got you, you don't need to worry, just
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  • Keep giving it to him.
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  • And listen, praise and worship is the most precious to him when
  • 00:14:48.578 --> 00:14:53.450
  • The times in our lives are most difficult.
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  • Kirk: yeah, and it makes me think about how god is able to
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  • Govern his world because he's not caught in the trees.
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  • He's up high, he sees the forest, you know, through the
  • 00:15:02.092 --> 00:15:05.962
  • Trees--or for the trees.
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  • And if that gratitude really is the attitude that determines the
  • 00:15:07.497 --> 00:15:11.101
  • Altitude for us, we wanna get up as high as we can above the
  • 00:15:11.101 --> 00:15:14.471
  • Clouds so that we can step back, see the big picture, and go,
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  • "oh, wait a minute, now i get it.
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  • God's in charge of all of this.
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  • He's working all things together for good."
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  • That's how it's done.
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  • Here's a lesson: god knows best, not me.
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  • How does gratitude help me learn that god knows best, not me?
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  • Jack: gratitude puts you in the position of being able to
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  • Receive from god.
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  • Think about it, do i have reception?
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  • Do you have a signal?
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  • Let's stand over here.
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  • What about here?
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  • Wait a minute.
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  • When we determine "i'm gonna be grateful, i'm gonna express
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  • Gratitude toward god," that changes, listen, it changes the
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  • Entire view that is being processed out of my eyes and my
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  • Ears and my mind.
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  • What i see, what i hear, what goes around in my life
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  • Externally is first, now, processed with a thankful heart.
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  • My god--and i like to put it this way, kirk.
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  • In the morning when i get up, i literally do this, i say,
  • 00:16:11.061 --> 00:16:14.364
  • "lord," before my feet hit the earth, 'cause i'm getting out of
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  • Bed, my feet not been on earth, "this is your day.
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  • Fill me with your holy spirit and cause me to walk in your
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  • Way, that whatever happens today i will give you praise and honor
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  • For it because you are sovereign, and i follow you now
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  • In jesus's name."
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  • I get out of bed, and from that moment on, kirk, i promise you,
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  • I do not look back.
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  • I look for him, i search for him, i'm expecting to hear
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  • From him.
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  • I live a very, very pregnant life of hope.
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  • My life is full of expectation.
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  • The god of the bible spoke to elijah, he spoke to john
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  • The baptist.
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  • He says he's not a respecter of persons, so i am so ready for
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  • Him to speak to me that it causes me to mitigate the things
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  • Of life every day.
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  • And that gratitude is--it's--it determines everything.
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  • Trajectory, it sets it straight every time.
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  • Kirk: jack, how does gratitude help the person that says, "life
  • 00:17:12.689 --> 00:17:18.695
  • Isn't fair," and they need to understand that we actually
  • 00:17:18.695 --> 00:17:22.933
  • Don't want life to be fair, and that it's good that life is not
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  • Always fair?
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  • Jack: yeah, first of all, there's nothing fair about god
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  • Coming to earth and being born as a baby and then being
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  • Mistreated and rejected and crucified, beaten.
  • 00:17:37.280 --> 00:17:41.952
  • There's nothing fair--listen, salvation, redemption,
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  • The cross?
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  • There's nothing fair about that.
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  • But god doesn't operate in the area of fairness.
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  • If you think about it, you say "well, my--you know, that
  • 00:17:50.427 --> 00:17:52.495
  • Wasn't fair.
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  • I lost my job or my car got stolen or my dog died."
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  • Listen, this life is brutal.
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  • Jesus christ came to save us from it.
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  • But for the believer, the moment i come to christ, here's what's
  • 00:18:01.871 --> 00:18:05.976
  • Cool: all this stuff makes sense.
  • 00:18:05.976 --> 00:18:08.845
  • I'm not exempt from hardship, pain, and sorrow, but my bible
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  • Promises me that god walks with me through these things.
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  • And here's the big difference, and i'm grateful for this, what
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  • Might destroy the nonbeliever causes the believer to be
  • 00:18:20.924 --> 00:18:24.494
  • Galvanized and equipped and matured so that we, with god,
  • 00:18:24.494 --> 00:18:29.966
  • Can survive anything.
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  • We can survive any imprisonment, any hatred, any rejection, any
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  • Illness, any situation.
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  • I know he's with me.
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  • Jesus said this world--satan has come to rob us, to kill us, and
  • 00:18:40.410 --> 00:18:43.813
  • Destroy us, "but i have come to give you eternal life,"
  • 00:18:43.813 --> 00:18:46.716
  • Abounding life.
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  • And i believe that because i've seen it true in my life.
  • 00:18:48.151 --> 00:18:51.955
  • And so, that's what i think people need to do, is realize,
  • 00:18:51.955 --> 00:18:55.125
  • Wait a minute, what's going on, god knew about it before he hung
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  • The moon out into space.
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  • He knew that i was here at this moment before i was ever born.
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  • So, god, show me the answer in this situation right now.
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  • Cause me not to panic, just have me be still and discover to know
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  • That you are god in this situation.
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  • Kirk: jack, i--don't you just love charles spurgeon?
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  • Now, there's a guy that i just can't--i can't help but think
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  • He--he was probably quotable when he was talking in
  • 00:19:22.886 --> 00:19:25.755
  • His sleep.
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  • I mean, the things that come out of his mouth were just always
  • 00:19:27.123 --> 00:19:29.426
  • Worth writing down.
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  • And i love how he says in one of his writings that "in the
  • 00:19:30.760 --> 00:19:33.963
  • Strictest sense of the word, no evil can come to the christian."
  • 00:19:33.963 --> 00:19:37.967
  • And of course, he's not saying that bad things don't happen.
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  • But what he's saying is that everything that comes to the
  • 00:19:39.936 --> 00:19:42.338
  • Christian is coming from the hand of god and that it is good
  • 00:19:42.338 --> 00:19:46.676
  • In a mysterious form.
  • 00:19:46.676 --> 00:19:48.445
  • And so everything from sickness to financial loss to everything
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  • Else that could possibly happen, while he doesn't endorse sin,
  • 00:19:51.581 --> 00:19:54.417
  • He's not the author of sin, he sinlessly weaves all things,
  • 00:19:54.417 --> 00:19:59.322
  • Including sinful things, together to bring about his
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  • Purposes in the life of a believer.
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  • And so it only draws us closer to him.
  • 00:20:04.728 --> 00:20:07.630
  • It only sanctifies us and it only--even death quickens us to
  • 00:20:07.630 --> 00:20:12.869
  • The final redemptive act where we get to see him face-to-face.
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  • I mean, it's like there's no worst-case scenario for a
  • 00:20:16.573 --> 00:20:19.476
  • Christian, only best-case scenarios.
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  • Jack: with what you just said, that's not hyperbole, that's
  • 00:20:21.845 --> 00:20:24.748
  • Not exaggeration.
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  • You're 100% correct.
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  • Listen, every--first of all, everybody should own, "morning
  • 00:20:27.484 --> 00:20:30.487
  • And evening," by charles spurgeon.
  • 00:20:30.487 --> 00:20:32.555
  • But what people don't realize is charles spurgeon fought with
  • 00:20:32.555 --> 00:20:36.693
  • Bouts of depression.
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  • He had severe gout in his feet.
  • 00:20:38.027 --> 00:20:40.697
  • He had severe allergies.
  • 00:20:40.697 --> 00:20:42.632
  • His lungs would often--that's right.
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  • And he would often have lung infections because of the london
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  • Soot and the smoke from the furnaces.
  • 00:20:50.140 --> 00:20:53.910
  • He suffered so much, but when you read him, it's like, how
  • 00:20:53.910 --> 00:20:57.981
  • Could this guy think so deep?
  • 00:20:57.981 --> 00:20:59.783
  • Oh my goodness, the depth of that man's spirituality came out
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  • Of great suffering.
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  • But, you know, it's amazing because--i'm thrilled about what
  • 00:21:05.155 --> 00:21:09.125
  • You're saying because nothing can come to us but that which
  • 00:21:09.125 --> 00:21:14.731
  • Has been father-filtered.
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  • Christian, listen, in your life, nothing can come to you unless
  • 00:21:16.332 --> 00:21:19.836
  • It's been filtered by the father.
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  • Job, we learned this from job, that satan couldn't touch job
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  • Unless he got permission from god.
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  • We know this about peter.
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  • The bible says that satan came to jesus and asked for peter
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  • By name.
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  • He wanted to destroy peter.
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  • And i wish i was there at that moment, kirk.
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  • Can you imagine?
  • 00:21:40.423 --> 00:21:41.791
  • Jesus tells peter, "hey, peter,
  • 00:21:41.791 --> 00:21:43.126
  • Satan came to me last night and he asked me
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  • If he could have you."
  • 00:21:45.161 --> 00:21:46.496
  • And you can almost see peter like, "yeah,
  • 00:21:46.496 --> 00:21:48.331
  • Well, wow, that's heavy.
  • 00:21:48.331 --> 00:21:49.666
  • You told him no, right?"
  • 00:21:49.666 --> 00:21:51.301
  • And jesus said, "well, actually, when you return from your trial,
  • 00:21:51.301 --> 00:21:56.506
  • Strengthen your brothers."
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  • You and i go through difficulties to strengthen our
  • 00:21:58.541 --> 00:22:00.977
  • Families, to strengthen our churches, to strengthen
  • 00:22:00.977 --> 00:22:03.947
  • Our brothers.
  • 00:22:03.947 --> 00:22:05.315
  • Satan--listen, in god, he'll use satan as a tool to perfect
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  • My sanctification.
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  • Satan becomes a tool.
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  • Kirk: that's right, isn't that amazing?
  • 00:22:15.992 --> 00:22:17.727
  • God can use anything.
  • 00:22:17.727 --> 00:22:19.495
  • Jack, how about the other--the ditch on the other side
  • 00:22:19.495 --> 00:22:23.533
  • Of gratitude?
  • 00:22:23.533 --> 00:22:25.101
  • You know, we've talked about how to give thanks to god even when
  • 00:22:25.101 --> 00:22:28.104
  • Challenging, difficult things happen, but how when things are
  • 00:22:28.104 --> 00:22:31.975
  • Going well?
  • 00:22:31.975 --> 00:22:33.309
  • Let's say i did a great job at work and i just got a raise.
  • 00:22:33.309 --> 00:22:36.179
  • Let's just say that everything is going my way.
  • 00:22:36.179 --> 00:22:39.716
  • That might be a time where pride could well up and i'm not
  • 00:22:39.716 --> 00:22:45.688
  • Thanking god, i'm just proud of myself.
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  • Why is it important to thank god even in those times?
  • 00:22:47.957 --> 00:22:51.361
  • Jack: you know, listen, absolutely.
  • 00:22:51.361 --> 00:22:52.996
  • I'm gonna give you one reporter's opinion.
  • 00:22:52.996 --> 00:22:55.298
  • It's my opinion because this is what i can report to you because
  • 00:22:55.298 --> 00:23:00.603
  • This is what's happened and happens in my life.
  • 00:23:00.603 --> 00:23:03.406
  • When everything's going great, you know what keeps my heart in
  • 00:23:03.406 --> 00:23:07.944
  • The right place, kirk?
  • 00:23:07.944 --> 00:23:09.312
  • Is ministering to other people.
  • 00:23:09.312 --> 00:23:11.948
  • I may be doing fine, my kids may be fine, my grandchildren may be
  • 00:23:11.948 --> 00:23:16.619
  • Fine, lisa and i are both on top of the world, things are
  • 00:23:16.619 --> 00:23:19.389
  • Going fine.
  • 00:23:19.389 --> 00:23:20.723
  • But, kirk, here's the--in my opinion, this is the secret
  • 00:23:20.723 --> 00:23:23.927
  • Weapon to christianity and the success of the believer.
  • 00:23:23.927 --> 00:23:27.597
  • When you're doing fine, keep going, make yourself available
  • 00:23:27.597 --> 00:23:32.335
  • To serve other people who are hurting and injured and sick and
  • 00:23:32.335 --> 00:23:36.606
  • Wounded because it causes you, in your high point, when
  • 00:23:36.606 --> 00:23:41.878
  • Everything's going great, it causes you to remember, lord,
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  • Thank you as i pray for mike and all of his situations that i
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  • Just saw him going through, and i visited him at the hospital,
  • 00:23:50.453 --> 00:23:53.589
  • Or he's--whatever it might--god, thank you for this food we
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  • Have tonight.
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  • Thank you, lord god, that we're here around our table and we're
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  • Not plugged into a machine at the hospital.
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  • Thank you, god, that we're able to be together as a family this
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  • One night because, lord, that family that has been broken up
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  • By this horrible situation.
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  • Christian, be a servant and you'll always be thankful no
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  • Matter how smooth things are going in your life.
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  • When we stop serving, that's when we get big headed, we
  • 00:24:20.383 --> 00:24:24.120
  • Lose sight.
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  • We think it's somehow our doing.
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  • That's not good.
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  • Stay in the ministry, christian, and you'll be thankful because
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  • You'll see what good you have in your own life.
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  • Kirk: yeah, jack, right now you're making me think of jesus
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  • Who said, "i thank you, father, that you've hidden this from the
  • 00:24:39.335 --> 00:24:43.873
  • Wise and the prudent but you've revealed this to babes."
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  • Jesus had a thankful heart and he was the ultimate servant who
  • 00:24:47.477 --> 00:24:52.448
  • Didn't come for other people to take care of his needs but he
  • 00:24:52.448 --> 00:24:55.518
  • Came to wash their feet and he came to give them what
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  • They needed.
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  • And i think you're right, gratitude is the fuel that
  • 00:25:00.289 --> 00:25:04.293
  • Keeps us serving other people.
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  • Jack, i'm so, so thankful for you.
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  • I'm so thankful that god has given you the microphone and
  • 00:25:07.797 --> 00:25:10.900
  • Platform that you have to get out to all of us.
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  • You're filling me with gratitude and, man, happy thanksgiving,
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  • Merry christmas, happy new year.
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  • And i can't wait to see all that's gonna take place this
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  • Coming year.
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  • Jack: brother, the same back to you.
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  • So grateful for your witness.
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  • I love you, you already know that, and i look forward to
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  • Whenever we get together again.
  • 00:25:30.953 --> 00:25:32.955
  • It's not soon enough.
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  • Kirk: when we come back, we're going to be joined by returning
  • 00:25:34.791 --> 00:25:37.226
  • Guest sharon jaynes to talk about the enemies of gratitude
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  • And thanksgiving.
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  • Entitlement, grumbling, and complaining.
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  • How do we stop these habits in their tracks and work to stay
  • 00:25:44.067 --> 00:25:47.637
  • Thankful in our everyday lives?
  • 00:25:47.637 --> 00:25:49.772
  • Sharon has a lot of practical tips for us, so stay right here.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Kirk: it's great to have best-selling author
  • 00:26:04.004 --> 00:26:05.339
  • And women's conference and event speaker sharon jaynes
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  • Joining us again on "takeaways."
  • 00:26:08.208 --> 00:26:10.144
  • Sharon, thanks so much for being here.
  • 00:26:10.144 --> 00:26:11.779
  • Sharon: thanks for having me back.
  • 00:26:11.779 --> 00:26:13.113
  • Kirk: well, i wish you were here in person, but we'll take you
  • 00:26:13.113 --> 00:26:16.683
  • Any way that we can get you.
  • 00:26:16.683 --> 00:26:18.318
  • And this is the time of year where, i don't know about you,
  • 00:26:18.318 --> 00:26:23.090
  • But i just find people are a little nicer, they're a little
  • 00:26:23.090 --> 00:26:25.526
  • More grateful.
  • 00:26:25.526 --> 00:26:26.894
  • The food just smells so good coming out of everybody's
  • 00:26:26.894 --> 00:26:29.463
  • Kitchen, the music starts to turn toward christmas, and i
  • 00:26:29.463 --> 00:26:32.666
  • Absolutely love it.
  • 00:26:32.666 --> 00:26:35.169
  • How about you?
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  • Sharon: me too.
  • 00:26:36.637 --> 00:26:38.038
  • I do too, i do, too.
  • 00:26:38.038 --> 00:26:39.606
  • And i love the fall colors, and now you're in tennessee and
  • 00:26:39.606 --> 00:26:42.910
  • You're getting to see the beautiful fall foliage in the
  • 00:26:42.910 --> 00:26:45.579
  • Carolinas and tennessee.
  • 00:26:45.579 --> 00:26:47.181
  • Isn't it great?
  • 00:26:47.181 --> 00:26:48.549
  • Kirk: it's just beautiful.
  • 00:26:48.549 --> 00:26:49.883
  • I was just up in black mountain and i had just a great time over
  • 00:26:49.883 --> 00:26:52.519
  • The weekend.
  • 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:53.887
  • Well, we're talking about thanksgiving, we're talking
  • 00:26:53.887 --> 00:26:55.522
  • About giving thanks, and the power and importance of
  • 00:26:55.522 --> 00:26:58.859
  • Gratitude this time of year.
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  • It's important, god tells us in the bible, and i've experienced
  • 00:27:00.928 --> 00:27:03.997
  • It myself.
  • 00:27:03.997 --> 00:27:05.365
  • Sharon, talk to us a little bit about how an attitude of
  • 00:27:05.365 --> 00:27:09.036
  • Gratitude has impacted your life.
  • 00:27:09.036 --> 00:27:12.706
  • Sharon: you know, what i've come to find out over the past
  • 00:27:12.706 --> 00:27:15.509
  • Several years is that we live in a very ungrateful culture,
  • 00:27:15.509 --> 00:27:19.546
  • Don't we?
  • 00:27:19.546 --> 00:27:20.881
  • I mean, there's just complaining everywhere we turn.
  • 00:27:20.881 --> 00:27:22.716
  • But when we start giving thanks and having that attitude of
  • 00:27:22.716 --> 00:27:26.086
  • Gratitude that you just mentioned, everything begins
  • 00:27:26.086 --> 00:27:29.489
  • To change.
  • 00:27:29.489 --> 00:27:30.824
  • We start to hear from god, we start to sense his presence.
  • 00:27:30.824 --> 00:27:34.962
  • And you know, right smack-dab in the middle of my bible, psalm
  • 00:27:34.962 --> 00:27:38.365
  • 100 says, "enter his gates with thanksgiving, and his courts
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  • With praise."
  • 00:27:41.268 --> 00:27:42.636
  • And i think many times we feel like we're far away from god.
  • 00:27:42.636 --> 00:27:45.839
  • I mean, it says in the bible that he's always with us, he's
  • 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.508
  • Omnipresent, that's for sure.
  • 00:27:48.508 --> 00:27:50.143
  • He'll never leave us or forsake us.
  • 00:27:50.143 --> 00:27:51.778
  • But we can feel far away from god, and right the middle of our
  • 00:27:51.778 --> 00:27:55.649
  • Bible it tells us how to feel close to him.
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  • We enter his gates with thanksgiving, we enter his
  • 00:27:57.951 --> 00:28:00.954
  • Courts with praise; be thankful to him, bless his holy name.
  • 00:28:00.954 --> 00:28:04.224
  • It really helps us to feel closer to god and to sense his
  • 00:28:04.224 --> 00:28:07.160
  • Presence in our lives.
  • 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:08.595
  • Kirk: i have a friend who likes to say that gratitude is the
  • 00:28:08.595 --> 00:28:12.399
  • Attitude that determines the altitude for living.
  • 00:28:12.399 --> 00:28:16.904
  • And i--isn't that great?
  • 00:28:16.904 --> 00:28:20.240
  • It really is true.
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  • I mean, when i'm filled with gratitude, it's like jet fuel
  • 00:28:21.608 --> 00:28:25.545
  • That allows me to climb up over and transcend the gravity of,
  • 00:28:25.545 --> 00:28:31.318
  • And the downward drag, of whiners and complainers and
  • 00:28:31.318 --> 00:28:35.689
  • Critics, and get up above the clouds where, you know, the air
  • 00:28:35.689 --> 00:28:39.526
  • Is fresh, the sun is shining, and the future looks bright.
  • 00:28:39.526 --> 00:28:42.996
  • Sharon: and we see that with david in the psalms, don't we?
  • 00:28:42.996 --> 00:28:45.565
  • Many times in the psalms he'll start out and he'll be in a bad
  • 00:28:45.565 --> 00:28:48.669
  • Situation, he'll be complaining.
  • 00:28:48.669 --> 00:28:51.238
  • "oh lord, i feel like i'm just drying up.
  • 00:28:51.238 --> 00:28:53.573
  • Where are you, lord?"
  • 00:28:53.573 --> 00:28:55.008
  • And then he says, you know, "awake, my soul," wait a minute.
  • 00:28:55.008 --> 00:28:58.745
  • Then he starts praising god for who he is and what he's done,
  • 00:28:58.745 --> 00:29:02.316
  • And everything changes.
  • 00:29:02.316 --> 00:29:03.817
  • I mean, his circumstances don't change, but his attitude changes
  • 00:29:03.817 --> 00:29:08.555
  • Because his problems start to grow smaller and his lord begins
  • 00:29:08.555 --> 00:29:13.160
  • To--his vision of the lord begins to grow larger.
  • 00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:15.996
  • So that's what happens when we have gratitude.
  • 00:29:15.996 --> 00:29:18.098
  • And i love that--i looked at the hebrew word for gratitude
  • 00:29:18.098 --> 00:29:21.168
  • Actually means recognizing the good.
  • 00:29:21.168 --> 00:29:25.372
  • Don't you love that?
  • 00:29:25.372 --> 00:29:26.707
  • So when we're having that attitude of gratitude, we're
  • 00:29:26.707 --> 00:29:29.376
  • Recognizing the good that is in our lives, the good that god has
  • 00:29:29.376 --> 00:29:33.714
  • Given us.
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  • Kirk: i really think that gratitude is a superpower.
  • 00:29:35.048 --> 00:29:38.051
  • I mean, if you and i can learn to be grateful in all
  • 00:29:38.051 --> 00:29:42.122
  • Circumstances, like the scripture tells us to do, give
  • 00:29:42.122 --> 00:29:44.925
  • Thanks in all circumstances and in all things give thanks to the
  • 00:29:44.925 --> 00:29:48.528
  • Lord, if i can learn how to do that, it really transforms
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  • Everything that you're looking at, whether it's something that
  • 00:29:53.066 --> 00:29:56.737
  • Is easy to be grateful for or it's something that is a hard
  • 00:29:56.737 --> 00:30:00.574
  • Thing and a difficult thing.
  • 00:30:00.574 --> 00:30:02.576
  • So, sharon, why do you think it's so difficult for us to feel
  • 00:30:02.576 --> 00:30:05.445
  • Gratitude, or at least, to say thanks when we know it is the
  • 00:30:05.445 --> 00:30:10.183
  • Very thing that changes everything?
  • 00:30:10.183 --> 00:30:12.152
  • Why do we struggle?
  • 00:30:12.152 --> 00:30:13.520
  • Sharon: well, i think, you know, some people would say that the
  • 00:30:13.520 --> 00:30:15.689
  • Opposite of gratitude is ingratitude, but i think the
  • 00:30:15.689 --> 00:30:19.259
  • Opposite of gratitude is entitlement because we think
  • 00:30:19.259 --> 00:30:23.463
  • We're entitled for something more.
  • 00:30:23.463 --> 00:30:25.932
  • And you know, we can go back and look in the bible, and i love
  • 00:30:25.932 --> 00:30:28.668
  • Looking at the story of how moses brought the israelites out
  • 00:30:28.668 --> 00:30:33.540
  • Of egypt, and they were so thankful.
  • 00:30:33.540 --> 00:30:36.043
  • Remember when they crossed the red sea on dry land, and then
  • 00:30:36.043 --> 00:30:38.678
  • The enemies came, and god brought the water back and they
  • 00:30:38.678 --> 00:30:42.015
  • All drowned, and they had the big praise party afterwards?
  • 00:30:42.015 --> 00:30:45.452
  • And they were so thankful for about a minute, and then they
  • 00:30:45.452 --> 00:30:48.922
  • Got to a place, and it says they grumbled because the water
  • 00:30:48.922 --> 00:30:51.625
  • Was bitter.
  • 00:30:51.625 --> 00:30:52.993
  • God told moses to put that stick in the water, it made it sweet,
  • 00:30:52.993 --> 00:30:55.862
  • And they were so happy for about a minute.
  • 00:30:55.862 --> 00:30:58.732
  • And as they go through that journey to the promised land,
  • 00:30:58.732 --> 00:31:01.568
  • They grumbled and they grumbled.
  • 00:31:01.568 --> 00:31:03.103
  • They grumbled because there wasn't food.
  • 00:31:03.103 --> 00:31:04.905
  • They grumbled because they were tired of manna.
  • 00:31:04.905 --> 00:31:07.207
  • They grumbled because, again, there wasn't water, and the
  • 00:31:07.207 --> 00:31:10.243
  • Water came from the rock.
  • 00:31:10.243 --> 00:31:11.678
  • And they grumbled again about the water.
  • 00:31:11.678 --> 00:31:13.947
  • And then they got to the promised land, and god sent in
  • 00:31:13.947 --> 00:31:16.950
  • The 12 spies, and they came back out and ten said, "we can't go
  • 00:31:16.950 --> 00:31:21.121
  • In because there are giants in the land and we look like
  • 00:31:21.121 --> 00:31:23.557
  • Grasshoppers to ourselves and to them."
  • 00:31:23.557 --> 00:31:25.692
  • But two said, "we can go in because god's
  • 00:31:25.692 --> 00:31:28.829
  • Already given it to us."
  • 00:31:28.829 --> 00:31:30.163
  • You know, when i've--i've read that story for so long and i
  • 00:31:30.163 --> 00:31:32.866
  • Thought, yep, they didn't get in because of unbelief, and that is
  • 00:31:32.866 --> 00:31:35.902
  • True, but what is so poignant there, kirk, is that it says god
  • 00:31:35.902 --> 00:31:40.340
  • Said to them, "all of you who have grumbled against me will
  • 00:31:40.340 --> 00:31:44.945
  • Not go in."
  • 00:31:44.945 --> 00:31:46.279
  • So the generation didn't go into the promised land because of
  • 00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:50.283
  • Their grumbling, and that can keep us from our personal
  • 00:31:50.283 --> 00:31:53.320
  • Promised land, keep us from seeing what god wants us to see,
  • 00:31:53.320 --> 00:31:57.224
  • From hearing what god wants to hear.
  • 00:31:57.224 --> 00:31:59.392
  • And it just is really a block in our relationship with the lord.
  • 00:31:59.392 --> 00:32:03.396
  • And it's so contagious.
  • 00:32:03.396 --> 00:32:05.398
  • I think about when they started grumbling, i don't know how it
  • 00:32:05.398 --> 00:32:09.069
  • Went, but i imagine it was something like this.
  • 00:32:09.069 --> 00:32:11.238
  • Someone walked out of their tent one morning and said, "you know,
  • 00:32:11.238 --> 00:32:13.874
  • I am sick of this manna."
  • 00:32:13.874 --> 00:32:15.675
  • And then the neighbor said, "you know what, i'm sick of it too."
  • 00:32:15.675 --> 00:32:18.645
  • And then the next person and the next person, and it
  • 00:32:18.645 --> 00:32:20.780
  • Just spreads.
  • 00:32:20.780 --> 00:32:22.149
  • And we have social media to do that today, but that negativity
  • 00:32:22.149 --> 00:32:25.519
  • Just spreads and spreads, and it's so contagious.
  • 00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.355
  • But here's the good news: just as ingratitude and grumbling is
  • 00:32:28.355 --> 00:32:32.459
  • Contagious, so is gratitude.
  • 00:32:32.459 --> 00:32:35.595
  • Kirk: yes, i think you're right.
  • 00:32:35.595 --> 00:32:37.597
  • And thank you for spelling that out for us and reminding us that
  • 00:32:37.597 --> 00:32:41.601
  • The enemy of gratitude is entitlement.
  • 00:32:41.601 --> 00:32:45.572
  • And i can't think of a better word to describe the way so many
  • 00:32:45.572 --> 00:32:49.376
  • People feel today after being fed the message that, "you
  • 00:32:49.376 --> 00:32:54.915
  • Deserve this, you ought to have this.
  • 00:32:54.915 --> 00:32:56.917
  • Don't let anybody tell you that you can't do what you want.
  • 00:32:56.917 --> 00:33:00.187
  • You ought to have--" and people just have this idea that they
  • 00:33:00.187 --> 00:33:05.992
  • Deserve all good all the time, the way that they want it, when
  • 00:33:05.992 --> 00:33:12.065
  • In truth, we don't want what we are entitled to.
  • 00:33:12.065 --> 00:33:15.001
  • I mean, as a christian we understand that the only thing
  • 00:33:15.001 --> 00:33:17.771
  • God is entitled to give us is not his love, it's not his
  • 00:33:17.771 --> 00:33:22.342
  • Mercy, it's not his grace.
  • 00:33:22.342 --> 00:33:24.644
  • These things are lavish gifts that we do not deserve.
  • 00:33:24.644 --> 00:33:29.049
  • If he was entitled to give us anything, it would be that which
  • 00:33:29.049 --> 00:33:32.352
  • Falls in accordance to his justice, and that would be his
  • 00:33:32.352 --> 00:33:36.690
  • Wrath because of my sin, because of my selfishness and my pride.
  • 00:33:36.690 --> 00:33:41.094
  • So i don't want entitlement.
  • 00:33:41.094 --> 00:33:43.096
  • Being an entitled person is the awfullest thing you could be.
  • 00:33:43.096 --> 00:33:46.933
  • I wanna be a grateful person because he offers me something
  • 00:33:46.933 --> 00:33:50.971
  • That i'm not entitled to.
  • 00:33:50.971 --> 00:33:52.339
  • Right, that's the message of the gospel.
  • 00:33:52.339 --> 00:33:54.441
  • Sharon: and when you think about it, when we are grumbling and
  • 00:33:54.441 --> 00:33:56.643
  • Complaining, it is a casual despising of the sovereignty
  • 00:33:56.643 --> 00:34:00.413
  • Of god.
  • 00:34:00.413 --> 00:34:01.748
  • And that's what we see with the people of israel, and that's
  • 00:34:01.748 --> 00:34:04.918
  • What we see with us today.
  • 00:34:04.918 --> 00:34:06.620
  • When we are complaining and grumbling, it's like we think we
  • 00:34:06.620 --> 00:34:09.623
  • Deserve better and we think we can do it better.
  • 00:34:09.623 --> 00:34:12.892
  • So that's what--we're kind of despising god's sovereignty and
  • 00:34:12.892 --> 00:34:15.528
  • Saying, "you know what, let me handle this.
  • 00:34:15.528 --> 00:34:17.163
  • I can do it."
  • 00:34:17.163 --> 00:34:18.531
  • Kirk: yeah, it's almost like saying, "you know, god, if i
  • 00:34:18.531 --> 00:34:20.066
  • Were on the throne, i wouldn't have gone--let it go down
  • 00:34:20.066 --> 00:34:22.636
  • That way."
  • 00:34:22.636 --> 00:34:23.970
  • Now, we don't think we're saying that, but essentially we are
  • 00:34:23.970 --> 00:34:25.572
  • Because we're getting frustrated, we're bowing up
  • 00:34:25.572 --> 00:34:29.676
  • Against the sovereign decrees and ordinances of god, who in
  • 00:34:29.676 --> 00:34:34.347
  • His wisdom and providence decreed that things would go
  • 00:34:34.347 --> 00:34:36.916
  • Down this way.
  • 00:34:36.916 --> 00:34:38.251
  • And we've got to remember that he's working all things together
  • 00:34:38.251 --> 00:34:42.055
  • For good and that trials and challenges are actually brought
  • 00:34:42.055 --> 00:34:45.692
  • To us on purpose to train within us the kind of character
  • 00:34:45.692 --> 00:34:51.131
  • Qualities that will conform us more to the image of his son.
  • 00:34:51.131 --> 00:34:55.535
  • So if we don't get gratitude right, we are--we're not going
  • 00:34:55.535 --> 00:35:00.507
  • To get there.
  • 00:35:00.507 --> 00:35:01.875
  • We're just going to stay in kindergarten christianity.
  • 00:35:01.875 --> 00:35:04.711
  • Sharon: and honestly, it's like, you know, when you go to get
  • 00:35:04.711 --> 00:35:07.047
  • Your eyes examined and they bring down the lens, which do
  • 00:35:07.047 --> 00:35:10.083
  • You see better, lens one, or lens two?
  • 00:35:10.083 --> 00:35:12.085
  • Lens three, or lens four?
  • 00:35:12.085 --> 00:35:13.887
  • And when we have that attitude of complaining and grumbling, it
  • 00:35:13.887 --> 00:35:17.691
  • Is like we are looking at life through the wrong lens.
  • 00:35:17.691 --> 00:35:21.027
  • So when you look at life through the sovereignty of god rather
  • 00:35:21.027 --> 00:35:23.897
  • Than the selfishness of man, we are looking through a very
  • 00:35:23.897 --> 00:35:27.600
  • Blurry lens.
  • 00:35:27.600 --> 00:35:28.968
  • But when we look at life through the sovereignty of god and
  • 00:35:28.968 --> 00:35:31.971
  • The--and gratitude and thanksgiving, everything becomes
  • 00:35:31.971 --> 00:35:35.475
  • More clear.
  • 00:35:35.475 --> 00:35:36.810
  • We can see it better.
  • 00:35:36.810 --> 00:35:38.178
  • And the thing is, god is always working behind the scenes to
  • 00:35:38.178 --> 00:35:41.514
  • Bring about our better good.
  • 00:35:41.514 --> 00:35:42.849
  • As you just mentioned, we have trials in our life, we
  • 00:35:42.849 --> 00:35:45.151
  • Have troubles.
  • 00:35:45.151 --> 00:35:46.519
  • But where we see trials, god sees training.
  • 00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:49.556
  • So you got trials and training.
  • 00:35:49.556 --> 00:35:51.291
  • Which lens are we looking at the situation through?
  • 00:35:51.291 --> 00:35:54.828
  • And when we look at it through the right lens, then we will be
  • 00:35:54.828 --> 00:35:58.098
  • Grateful, even in the struggles that we have.
  • 00:35:58.098 --> 00:36:00.967
  • Kirk: how do we go to god with specific requests?
  • 00:36:00.967 --> 00:36:04.104
  • He tells us in his word, "rejoice in the lord always.
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  • Don't worry about anything, but in all things be grateful, be
  • 00:36:08.408 --> 00:36:11.644
  • Thankful, and bring your requests to the lord with a
  • 00:36:11.644 --> 00:36:15.382
  • Thankful heart."
  • 00:36:15.382 --> 00:36:17.016
  • How do i go to god with the--with my requests and not
  • 00:36:17.016 --> 00:36:21.654
  • Become filled with a spirit of entitlement?
  • 00:36:21.654 --> 00:36:25.392
  • Because he says whatever i ask in his
  • 00:36:25.392 --> 00:36:28.027
  • Name he's gonna give it to me.
  • 00:36:28.027 --> 00:36:29.362
  • So what if god doesn't give that to me?
  • 00:36:29.362 --> 00:36:31.698
  • Should i stop asking him for things and just be content and
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  • Grateful for what i have, or can i come to him with requests and
  • 00:36:34.234 --> 00:36:37.670
  • Still be content?
  • 00:36:37.670 --> 00:36:39.038
  • Sharon: well, the bible does tell us when we pray to knock
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  • And keep knocking.
  • 00:36:40.940 --> 00:36:42.308
  • So we--don't say anything in scripture that tells us to stop
  • 00:36:42.308 --> 00:36:45.578
  • Praying a certain prayer.
  • 00:36:45.578 --> 00:36:47.547
  • However, there comes a point where we get an answer and, you
  • 00:36:47.547 --> 00:36:50.884
  • Know what, kirk, the answer might be no.
  • 00:36:50.884 --> 00:36:53.019
  • And if we get that answer that is no, then we're still going to
  • 00:36:53.019 --> 00:36:56.189
  • Thank god for that.
  • 00:36:56.189 --> 00:36:57.557
  • We're going to thank him because we know that he's got a better
  • 00:36:57.557 --> 00:37:00.059
  • Plan, something that we can't see, and we might never know why
  • 00:37:00.059 --> 00:37:04.931
  • That answer was no, but no is an answer.
  • 00:37:04.931 --> 00:37:08.268
  • Kirk: we're gonna talk more with sharon about the importance of a
  • 00:37:08.268 --> 00:37:10.937
  • Biblical attitude of gratitude and how to avoid the habit of a
  • 00:37:10.937 --> 00:37:15.575
  • Grumbling and complaining spirit that robs us of
  • 00:37:15.575 --> 00:37:19.279
  • Joy, so stay with us.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Kirk: we're back with author and women speaker sharon jaynes.
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  • Sharon, we've been talking all about gratitude and having a
  • 00:37:36.029 --> 00:37:38.465
  • Heart full of thanks even for things that are difficult.
  • 00:37:38.465 --> 00:37:41.502
  • And i loved how you talked about the different lenses.
  • 00:37:41.502 --> 00:37:43.437
  • You know, lens number one, or lens number two?
  • 00:37:43.437 --> 00:37:45.539
  • Lens number three, or lens--what--at what point does
  • 00:37:45.539 --> 00:37:48.108
  • It come clear?
  • 00:37:48.108 --> 00:37:49.443
  • And you say that the lens of gratitude changes everything.
  • 00:37:49.443 --> 00:37:52.880
  • Can you just unpack that for us a little bit more?
  • 00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:56.283
  • Sharon: you know, i love that illustration because, first of
  • 00:37:56.283 --> 00:37:59.253
  • All, i just had an eye exam and just brought it all back to me.
  • 00:37:59.253 --> 00:38:02.289
  • But when i wrote the book, "when you don't like your story: what
  • 00:38:02.289 --> 00:38:05.526
  • If your worst chapters could become your greatest victories?"
  • 00:38:05.526 --> 00:38:08.495
  • One thing that i realized as i was talking to different people
  • 00:38:08.495 --> 00:38:11.999
  • About their difficult stories and what they learned from them,
  • 00:38:11.999 --> 00:38:15.102
  • That the people who looked at their stories, the difficult
  • 00:38:15.102 --> 00:38:18.372
  • Parts of their lives through that lens of gratitude and what
  • 00:38:18.372 --> 00:38:21.875
  • They learned from it and what they got from it, they had an
  • 00:38:21.875 --> 00:38:25.045
  • Entirely different perspective.
  • 00:38:25.045 --> 00:38:27.047
  • Now, one gal that i talked to had a very difficult marriage,
  • 00:38:27.047 --> 00:38:30.918
  • But she said, "i am so thankful for the three children that i
  • 00:38:30.918 --> 00:38:34.788
  • Have and i am so thankful for the way my faith
  • 00:38:34.788 --> 00:38:38.125
  • Grew during that time."
  • 00:38:38.125 --> 00:38:39.459
  • She said, "if i hadn't gone through that struggle, i would
  • 00:38:39.459 --> 00:38:41.862
  • Have had a very lazy, simple faith.
  • 00:38:41.862 --> 00:38:44.731
  • But because of those struggles, i know what it means to depend
  • 00:38:44.731 --> 00:38:48.402
  • On jesus when you can't depend on anybody else.
  • 00:38:48.402 --> 00:38:50.871
  • I know what it means to have jesus as my rock and my savior.
  • 00:38:50.871 --> 00:38:54.541
  • I know what it means to have jesus as my provider when i
  • 00:38:54.541 --> 00:38:57.611
  • Didn't have anyone else providing for me."
  • 00:38:57.611 --> 00:38:59.813
  • And you see what she's doing there, kirk.
  • 00:38:59.813 --> 00:39:01.448
  • She's looking at her difficult chapter through that lens of
  • 00:39:01.448 --> 00:39:05.686
  • Gratitude, of what god did for me to get me
  • 00:39:05.686 --> 00:39:09.122
  • On the other side of it.
  • 00:39:09.122 --> 00:39:10.457
  • And something you mentioned in the first segment about how when
  • 00:39:10.457 --> 00:39:13.660
  • We go through difficulties, we can then use what we've gone
  • 00:39:13.660 --> 00:39:16.830
  • Through to help other people.
  • 00:39:16.830 --> 00:39:19.199
  • What a praise and thankful heart we can have to do that.
  • 00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:23.070
  • You know, it tells us in 1 corinthians that god comforts us
  • 00:39:23.070 --> 00:39:26.139
  • In all of our struggle so that we can comfort others with the
  • 00:39:26.139 --> 00:39:30.644
  • Struggles we've gone through as well.
  • 00:39:30.644 --> 00:39:33.046
  • And that's basically saying that god doesn't comfort us just to
  • 00:39:33.046 --> 00:39:36.183
  • Make us comfortable, but god comforts us to make us
  • 00:39:36.183 --> 00:39:39.186
  • Comfort-able so we can then use what we've gone through to help
  • 00:39:39.186 --> 00:39:43.123
  • Someone else.
  • 00:39:43.123 --> 00:39:44.491
  • And that is wonderful, that's the power of our story.
  • 00:39:44.491 --> 00:39:46.927
  • And we can be so grateful that god has allowed us to go through
  • 00:39:46.927 --> 00:39:50.664
  • Those difficulties.
  • 00:39:50.664 --> 00:39:52.032
  • And in my own life, just being raised in a home with an
  • 00:39:52.032 --> 00:39:54.368
  • Alcoholic father, difficulties there, and i now use all of that
  • 00:39:54.368 --> 00:39:58.372
  • To help other women who are going through difficulties
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  • As well.
  • 00:40:01.041 --> 00:40:02.376
  • And i just praise god for that.
  • 00:40:02.376 --> 00:40:04.011
  • I don't look back on the difficulties and i'm not bitter
  • 00:40:04.011 --> 00:40:06.747
  • Or resentful about it.
  • 00:40:06.747 --> 00:40:08.081
  • I'm praising god for it, and we can praise god for those
  • 00:40:08.081 --> 00:40:11.218
  • Difficulties, how he got us through it, how he got us over
  • 00:40:11.218 --> 00:40:13.954
  • It so then that we can still, now, use that to help
  • 00:40:13.954 --> 00:40:17.124
  • Other people.
  • 00:40:17.124 --> 00:40:18.492
  • And that is so much joy, to be able to do that.
  • 00:40:18.492 --> 00:40:20.928
  • Kirk: that's it, i love it, that god's not looking to make us
  • 00:40:20.928 --> 00:40:22.996
  • Comfortable, he's looking to make us more comfort-able, to
  • 00:40:22.996 --> 00:40:27.768
  • Comfort those--and gratitude is the key.
  • 00:40:27.768 --> 00:40:30.537
  • We've got to grab ahold of gratitude.
  • 00:40:30.537 --> 00:40:32.372
  • You know, and--you say, you know what, it--we can't say, you
  • 00:40:32.372 --> 00:40:37.644
  • Know, "i don't like my annoying mother-in-law," or, "i'm
  • 00:40:37.644 --> 00:40:43.216
  • Just--god, why did you give me an alcoholic father?"
  • 00:40:43.216 --> 00:40:45.686
  • We need to be able to say, "i'm thankful for my
  • 00:40:45.686 --> 00:40:48.088
  • Alcoholic father.
  • 00:40:48.088 --> 00:40:49.423
  • I'm not thankful that he is involved in alcoholism, but,
  • 00:40:49.423 --> 00:40:52.592
  • God, you have something very important in the story that
  • 00:40:52.592 --> 00:40:56.396
  • People are reading about my life and his life," or, "i'm grateful
  • 00:40:56.396 --> 00:41:00.600
  • For my annoying mother-in-law and i'm so thankful for what
  • 00:41:00.600 --> 00:41:05.072
  • You're going to teach me through this.
  • 00:41:05.072 --> 00:41:06.707
  • Maybe i need to learn how to love my enemies.
  • 00:41:06.707 --> 00:41:09.409
  • Maybe i need to learn how to be more patient and kind with those
  • 00:41:09.409 --> 00:41:13.914
  • Who are irritating, and maybe i'm able to help bring that
  • 00:41:13.914 --> 00:41:18.685
  • Person some comfort with my patience that's going to change
  • 00:41:18.685 --> 00:41:23.724
  • Their life, and love and care for them the way, god, that
  • 00:41:23.724 --> 00:41:26.626
  • You've cared for me when i was your enemy
  • 00:41:26.626 --> 00:41:29.029
  • And when i was annoying."
  • 00:41:29.029 --> 00:41:30.831
  • All of these things are part of the process that make us into
  • 00:41:30.831 --> 00:41:33.834
  • The people he wants us to be, aren't they?
  • 00:41:33.834 --> 00:41:35.602
  • Sharon: right, and you know, that's how i became a christian
  • 00:41:35.602 --> 00:41:38.071
  • As a teenager, through a woman in my neighborhood.
  • 00:41:38.071 --> 00:41:40.340
  • Then three years later my mom came to christ.
  • 00:41:40.340 --> 00:41:43.343
  • But my father, that mean alcoholic man, he did come to
  • 00:41:43.343 --> 00:41:48.248
  • Christ, too, but the way he came to christ was that he met a man
  • 00:41:48.248 --> 00:41:52.652
  • In pennsylvania.
  • 00:41:52.652 --> 00:41:53.987
  • I'm in north carolina, he went to pennsylvania, he met a man
  • 00:41:53.987 --> 00:41:57.624
  • And he asked this man to pray for him, and the man said,
  • 00:41:57.624 --> 00:42:00.460
  • "well, tell me your story."
  • 00:42:00.460 --> 00:42:01.862
  • And then what my father told me, this man who happened to be a
  • 00:42:01.862 --> 00:42:04.831
  • Pastor, he said, "after i told this man everything i've done,
  • 00:42:04.831 --> 00:42:08.235
  • That pastor told me his story.
  • 00:42:08.235 --> 00:42:10.203
  • He had done everything i had done.
  • 00:42:10.203 --> 00:42:12.272
  • And i knew that if god could forgive him, that he could
  • 00:42:12.272 --> 00:42:15.342
  • Forgive me too."
  • 00:42:15.342 --> 00:42:16.777
  • And see, that's the joy of it, isn't it?
  • 00:42:16.777 --> 00:42:19.046
  • God--this a man that's not ashamed to tell what he's gone
  • 00:42:19.046 --> 00:42:21.915
  • Through, told what god had done for him, and my father saw jesus
  • 00:42:21.915 --> 00:42:25.719
  • In that man.
  • 00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:27.054
  • So it's so important that we use what we've gone through, and be
  • 00:42:27.054 --> 00:42:29.423
  • Thankful for it, because there's somebody that needs to hear
  • 00:42:29.423 --> 00:42:32.826
  • That story.
  • 00:42:32.826 --> 00:42:34.194
  • But i would love to go back to that whole lens thing a minute.
  • 00:42:34.194 --> 00:42:36.430
  • I want to go back to that because i think when we look at
  • 00:42:36.430 --> 00:42:39.232
  • Life through the lens of gratitude, we do see
  • 00:42:39.232 --> 00:42:41.868
  • Things differently.
  • 00:42:41.868 --> 00:42:43.236
  • And i was so convicted of this one day when i was traveling
  • 00:42:43.236 --> 00:42:46.573
  • From pennsylvania back to north carolina.
  • 00:42:46.573 --> 00:42:50.544
  • I had done a speaking thing on a christmas--i mean, on a--it was
  • 00:42:50.544 --> 00:42:54.214
  • A good friday easter service.
  • 00:42:54.214 --> 00:42:56.283
  • And when i was traveling back, it was supposed to be quick
  • 00:42:56.283 --> 00:42:58.985
  • Flight, and there were storms and it was delayed and delayed
  • 00:42:58.985 --> 00:43:02.322
  • And delayed.
  • 00:43:02.322 --> 00:43:03.690
  • Flights were canceled.
  • 00:43:03.690 --> 00:43:05.025
  • And finally, about 12 hours after i was supposed to get on
  • 00:43:05.025 --> 00:43:08.128
  • The plane, we finally got on the plane, got to north carolina,
  • 00:43:08.128 --> 00:43:11.731
  • And then we were--couldn't land because of a storm.
  • 00:43:11.731 --> 00:43:16.269
  • We had to land 90 miles away, and then the time timed out for
  • 00:43:16.269 --> 00:43:21.441
  • The crew and they couldn't fly anymore.
  • 00:43:21.441 --> 00:43:23.710
  • So then they put us on these eight vans to drive us the rest
  • 00:43:23.710 --> 00:43:28.348
  • Of the way home, an hour and a half, and there was a woman and
  • 00:43:28.348 --> 00:43:31.585
  • Her daughter sitting in front of me.
  • 00:43:31.585 --> 00:43:33.086
  • And i'll be honest with you, kirk, i was not praising
  • 00:43:33.086 --> 00:43:36.289
  • The lord.
  • 00:43:36.289 --> 00:43:37.624
  • I was grumbling, i was mad about it, and i was saying, "lord,
  • 00:43:37.624 --> 00:43:41.661
  • What are you doing here?"
  • 00:43:41.661 --> 00:43:43.230
  • I was not happy.
  • 00:43:43.230 --> 00:43:44.564
  • I had a bad attitude of ingratitude and entitlement, i
  • 00:43:44.564 --> 00:43:48.268
  • Might add.
  • 00:43:48.268 --> 00:43:49.669
  • But as we were coming towards charlotte, the heater was
  • 00:43:49.669 --> 00:43:54.441
  • Broken, it was really hot, the woman in front of me drew a
  • 00:43:54.441 --> 00:43:57.377
  • Smiley face on the glass.
  • 00:43:57.377 --> 00:44:00.413
  • And i thought to myself, what does she have to be
  • 00:44:00.413 --> 00:44:03.116
  • Smiling about?
  • 00:44:03.116 --> 00:44:04.484
  • There is nothing smily about this situation.
  • 00:44:04.484 --> 00:44:07.287
  • Well, i had gotten to know them a little bit, and when we
  • 00:44:07.287 --> 00:44:10.056
  • Finally got to charlotte and they--we got out of the van
  • 00:44:10.056 --> 00:44:12.859
  • About midnight.
  • 00:44:12.859 --> 00:44:14.528
  • I turned to the girl, her name was beth, and it was beth and
  • 00:44:14.528 --> 00:44:18.331
  • Her mom and they were coming to visit the second daughter.
  • 00:44:18.331 --> 00:44:22.169
  • I said, "beth, y'all have a great time visiting with
  • 00:44:22.169 --> 00:44:25.071
  • Your sister."
  • 00:44:25.071 --> 00:44:26.406
  • And she said, "oh, we will.
  • 00:44:26.406 --> 00:44:28.074
  • My mom just found out she has cancer for the second time and
  • 00:44:28.074 --> 00:44:32.679
  • It looks like she's not gonna make it this time, so we're
  • 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:36.283
  • Gonna have one more girls weekend together and it might be
  • 00:44:36.283 --> 00:44:40.153
  • Our last."
  • 00:44:40.153 --> 00:44:41.521
  • And, kirk, then i looked back at that van with a smiley face
  • 00:44:41.521 --> 00:44:46.193
  • Drawn on the window by a dying woman and i was so convicted
  • 00:44:46.193 --> 00:44:52.699
  • About how i had been so ungrateful all day because i
  • 00:44:52.699 --> 00:44:56.836
  • Was inconvenienced.
  • 00:44:56.836 --> 00:44:58.838
  • But this woman was grateful because she had another day
  • 00:44:58.838 --> 00:45:02.976
  • Of life.
  • 00:45:02.976 --> 00:45:04.678
  • You see, that's the difference when we look through--are we
  • 00:45:04.678 --> 00:45:08.582
  • Looking through the right lens?
  • 00:45:08.582 --> 00:45:09.950
  • Am i looking through the lens of the selfishness of sharon who
  • 00:45:09.950 --> 00:45:13.019
  • Wants it to go my way all the time, or am i looking at it
  • 00:45:13.019 --> 00:45:16.590
  • Through the lens of just being grateful that i have
  • 00:45:16.590 --> 00:45:19.192
  • Another day?
  • 00:45:19.192 --> 00:45:20.827
  • And you see those two women, me and that woman, and the
  • 00:45:20.827 --> 00:45:24.030
  • Difference it made in our attitude that day.
  • 00:45:24.030 --> 00:45:26.866
  • Kirk: attitude is everything, it changes the way that we live.
  • 00:45:26.866 --> 00:45:30.971
  • Sharon, talk with us about how, in practical terms, we can cast
  • 00:45:30.971 --> 00:45:35.875
  • Our cares upon the lord, that's what scriptures say, because he
  • 00:45:35.875 --> 00:45:39.279
  • Cares for us, and not have that be a backdoor into complaining?
  • 00:45:39.279 --> 00:45:45.418
  • "lord, these are my cares.
  • 00:45:45.418 --> 00:45:47.020
  • Oh god, why are these things happening to me?
  • 00:45:47.020 --> 00:45:48.989
  • I want to cast my cares upon you without complaining about
  • 00:45:48.989 --> 00:45:52.826
  • Those cares."
  • 00:45:52.826 --> 00:45:54.261
  • You see what i'm saying?
  • 00:45:54.261 --> 00:45:55.895
  • Sharon: well, you mentioned a--yes, you mentioned a
  • 00:45:55.895 --> 00:45:58.832
  • Verse in the first segment.
  • 00:45:58.832 --> 00:46:00.166
  • It says to give--pray about everything with thanksgiving,
  • 00:46:00.166 --> 00:46:06.206
  • And i think that's it right there.
  • 00:46:06.206 --> 00:46:08.041
  • It's you're praying about everything, but you're doing it
  • 00:46:08.041 --> 00:46:10.377
  • With thanksgiving.
  • 00:46:10.377 --> 00:46:11.778
  • So it's not just--we're not just giving a list of all our
  • 00:46:11.778 --> 00:46:15.482
  • Complaints and our ailments.
  • 00:46:15.482 --> 00:46:16.816
  • And if we are, we need to rethink that.
  • 00:46:16.816 --> 00:46:19.386
  • Yes, we do cast all our cares upon the lord.
  • 00:46:19.386 --> 00:46:22.255
  • And i love that word "cast," it really means throw.
  • 00:46:22.255 --> 00:46:24.591
  • Throw them, throw them at, you know, just throw them
  • 00:46:24.591 --> 00:46:27.327
  • Jesus's feet.
  • 00:46:27.327 --> 00:46:28.695
  • And we're not meant to carry those, but we're still--we have
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  • A--still have an attitude of thanksgiving, because if the
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  • Answer is no, if we're going back to that, you know, that is
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  • An answer, and praising god, again, for that as well.
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  • But i think that we tend to have the prayer list with everything
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  • That we want and all of our needs, but we're forgetting that
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  • Very first part.
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  • And for me, when i pray, i always spend the first part of
  • 00:46:49.783 --> 00:46:53.586
  • It in--doing what it says in psalm 100.
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  • Says, "enter his gates with thanksgiving, and his courts
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  • With praise."
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  • So i begin by praising god for who he is and then thanking god
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  • For what he does.
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  • And then i have my list of prayer requests and then i close
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  • It back up and i end, again, with thanking god for what he
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  • Does and praising him for who he is.
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  • So it's a sandwich, basically a sandwich.
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  • We've got the praise and thanksgiving on the beginning
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  • And the end.
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  • And i think when we do that, it helps us remind us, again, of
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  • The sovereignty of god.
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  • Yes, we've got our needs and we've got our desires in there,
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  • But still, god's in control, god is in his throne--on his throne,
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  • And he is gonna do--do what is best, whether we think it's best
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  • For us or not.
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  • Kirk: that's right, and if we think about it, it's not like he
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  • Hasn't taken care of us in the past.
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  • If i've got a memory of the things he's done for me in the
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  • Past, that's gonna help me to be thankful now.
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  • Not just because of his sovereignty, although
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  • That's--that is enough.
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  • Not just because he's faithful and kind, in theory, but because
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  • He's demonstrated his kindness and his faithfulness to me in
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  • The past.
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  • He saved me, he found me when i wasn't looking for him.
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  • He has gotten me this far in my life.
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  • He has given me promises that i can stand on.
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  • He's granted me with friends and family and he's taken hard
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  • Things and turned it into the best things in the past.
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  • Why wouldn't he do it again in this thing now?
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  • Isn't that a good reason to be grateful?
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  • Sharon: absolutely, and you mentioned, what are some
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  • Practical things that we can do?
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  • What you just said right there, that list, that's a great list.
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  • But you know what?
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  • We have a very short memory.
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  • And when you go through and you read in exodus about how they
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  • Were grateful and then they complained, how they were
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  • Grateful and then they complained?
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  • They had a very short memory, and we have a very short memory.
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  • So what do you do about that?
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  • I think we write it down.
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  • And people have been doing this for years and years and years,
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  • But have a gratitude journal, or have something that you write
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  • Down something every day that you're grateful for, or with
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  • Your family as you come together at the dinner table and you say
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  • Your blessing over your food, have each one say
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  • That--something that you're grateful for that day.
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  • You know, we're getting ready to go into thanksgiving.
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  • Have people go around the table, say what they're thankful for,
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  • Make a list of what you're thankful for.
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  • And--but i think that journal thing is such a good idea.
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  • You can just jot down what you're thankful for that day and
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  • It's a great way to help us to remember and not forget all the
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  • Ways that god has blessed us and all that we have to be
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  • Thankful for.
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  • Kirk: sharon, thank you so much for joining us.
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  • I'm thankful for you.
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  • We all have so much to be thankful for this year.
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  • After the break we'll review some of our takeaways from our
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  • Conversations with sharon and jack hibbs, so don't go away.
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  • Kirk: i really appreciated hearing more about the
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  • Importance of gratitude from pastor jack and sharon today.
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  • Let's review our takeaways.
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  • Gratitude positions us.
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  • Pastor jack shared such a great insight.
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  • He said that gratitude puts us in a position to receive
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  • From god.
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  • That's because expressing gratitude changes the view of
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  • What's being processed through our senses.
  • 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:18.369
  • We actually see, hear, and experience life differently.
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  • If we understand that nothing comes to us that hasn't been
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  • Father-filtered, then we have the right view every time.
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  • Serving others is a pathway to gratitude.
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  • It's easy to be thankful when everything is going our way, but
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  • The way to stay thankful is to serve others.
  • 00:50:37.688 --> 00:50:40.557
  • Pastor jack said that being a servant to those who are
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  • Suffering is what keeps his heart right.
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  • Serving others reminds us that life can be difficult but god
  • 00:50:45.763 --> 00:50:49.933
  • Walks with us through it all, and that allows us to be
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  • Grateful no matter the circumstances.
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  • Gratitude is a superpower.
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  • My friend likes to say gratitude is the attitude that determines
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  • The altitude for living.
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  • Sharon reminded us that we need to see all of life through the
  • 00:51:07.384 --> 00:51:11.021
  • Lens of gratitude.
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  • So if gratitude is a superpower, that also means that grumbling
  • 00:51:12.689 --> 00:51:16.960
  • Is kryptonite.
  • 00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:18.462
  • Grumbling kept the children of israel out of the promised land,
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  • And it keeps us out from our personal promised lands.
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  • Choosing gratitude is choosing life.
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  • Make gratitude your bookends, sharon shared that the way to
  • 00:51:30.307 --> 00:51:34.278
  • Feel close to god during tough times is to enter his gates with
  • 00:51:34.278 --> 00:51:38.082
  • Thanksgiving, like it says in psalm 100.
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  • But she also encouraged us to exit his gates the same way.
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  • We first thank god for his goodness, and then we bring our
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  • Very real cares and concerns to him, casting our cares upon the
  • 00:51:47.424 --> 00:51:51.662
  • Lord, then we end the prayer the same way we entered,
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  • With gratitude.
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  • So even in difficult times, it's important to remember that god
  • 00:51:56.800 --> 00:52:00.270
  • Doesn't comfort us to make us comfortable, but to make
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  • Us comfort-able.
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  • That is, more able to offer comfort to others.
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  • That's all for this episode of "takeaways."
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