Joel Salatin & Stacy Lyn Harris: Choosing a Homesteading Lifestyle | Takeaways with Kirk Cameron

January 19, 2026 | 53:25

Kirk Cameron is joined by farmer Joel Salatin and cookbook author Stacy Lyn Harris sharing God’s faithfulness in the challenges and blessings of a homesteading independent lifestyle.

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Takeaways with Kirk Cameron | Joel Salatin & Stacy Lyn Harris: Choosing a Homesteading Lifestyle | Takeaways with Kirk Cameron | January 19, 2026

- there are familiar quotes we use to describe
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How much home means to us.
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Phrases like "home is where the heart is,"
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"home, sweet home,"
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And, of course, "there's no place like home."
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For many of us,
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The word home represents a place of safety,
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Of comfort and family.
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Well, today we're gonna talk about the term homesteading,
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Which is defined as traditional self-sufficiency
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With modern technology
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To live a more sustainable
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And independent life.
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To give us some insight on this trending lifestyle,
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We're gonna talk to my guests, joel salatin.
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- we live in a wonderful time.
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This is not anti-technology.
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It is using technology for its best use.
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You know, how can we steward this better
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And easier and more efficiently?
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- and stacey lyn harris.
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- i feel like we've got
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To keep our constitutional rights
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To raise a godly family.
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- [kirk] yeah. - easily.
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To put food on the table
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That we produce if we want to,
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And to educate our kids.
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- so let's get to it right now on "takeaways."
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(upbeat music)
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My next guest, joel salatin,
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Is known as the self-acclaimed christian,
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Libertarian, environmentalist,
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Capitalist, lunatic farmer.
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Others who like him,
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Call him the most famous farmer in the world.
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He's the editor of the "stockman grass farmer" magazine
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And he's authored numerous books,
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Including this one called "homestead tsunami".
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Joel, thanks so much for joining us.
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- [joel] thank you, it's great to be with you.
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- well, i have friends
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Who just call you the obi-wan kenobi.
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You are the gandalf of homesteading
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And have helped to shape
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Their whole lifestyle as a family.
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- well, it's great to hear good stories.
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- yeah.
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Well, for many of us,
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The word homesteading,
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I don't know, conjures up images
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Of "little house on the prairie"
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With ma and pa
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And, you know, a log cabin out in the woods.
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What is homesteading for those who don't know?
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- yeah, so, you know,
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The homesteading idea concept
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Came from the homestead act
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That abraham lincoln developed in the early 1860s
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To send people out into, you know, land.
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And if they got this acreage and they could hang onto it
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For a certain period of time, it was theirs.
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And so it connotes a system of self-reliance.
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And do-it-yourselfism, if you will.
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The most common thing i hear today is people say,
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"i just wanna disentangle.
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I feel like i don't have control over my money.
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I don't have control over my health, my education,
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You know, my career, and i just wanna disentangle."
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And so homesteading wraps up all of that idea
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Of disentanglement from the system, from the man,
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To where you have a little more control in your life.
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- i think that that is wonderful.
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And it's different than just prepping for doomsday.
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- yes.
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- like, i've just got guns
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And food stockpiled for the apocalypse.
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It's no, i'm actually looking for days of flourishing.
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- yes. - with my family.
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Disentangled from the grid.
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- absolutely.
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You know, the movement started, i think,
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From fear, you know, fear of collapse, whatever.
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- [kirk] yeah.
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- okay, fear makes you run, i mean,
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That's if you're being chased by a lion in the jungle.
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- so fear is a good thing.
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You wanna run. but you can't run forever.
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Faith makes you stop.
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Fear makes you run, faith makes you stop.
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And so the homestead tsunami we're experiencing right now
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Is people began running, ooh, i don't like this.
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I'm in fear.
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But then anchoring, stopping takes the faith
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Of, yes, we can do this.
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- hmm. so how, how about for you personally?
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I know you've been doing this for a long, long time,
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But was there a beginning to your family homesteading?
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- yes, well, i mean, i could go clear back to my grandfather
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Who was a charter subscriber to rodale's
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Organic gardening and farming magazine
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When it came out in what, 1945.
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And was a pushback
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Against the chemical agriculture narrative
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That we've gotta poison everything
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And we've gotta go to factory farming, you know, all this.
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And my dad, picked that up from him,
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After the stint in the navy in world war ii,
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Got his gi degree in business and economics and accounting,
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And went to venezuela, south america
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And started a farm there.
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I wasn't born there,
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But i was 4 when we came back from venezuela
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After losing a farm there,
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And started over on this worn out rock pile
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In virginia, shenandoah valley.
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And so i was 4 when we came back to the states
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And we grew up there basically as a glorified homestead.
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Dad and mom never made a living from the homestead.
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And so when i came back to the farm full-time,
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September 24th, 1982, the family thing was,
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Well, it took us three generations,
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But we finally got a full-time salary from the farm.
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And it was nip and tuck.
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I mean, it was really nip and tuck.
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But, you know, we had our, you know, milk cows,
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We had our chickens, we had our big garden.
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And then when i married theresa,
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You know, we had a big garden.
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We never, we didn't eat from the store.
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She'd can 800 quarts of stuff a summer, you know,
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And we ate our own food, our own meat.
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We had our own firewood for fuel.
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You know, we just, we lived on $300 a month,
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Drove a $50 car, never had a tv, still don't have a tv.
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And so we just, you know, instead of trying to see
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How much money can you earn, it was how cheaply can we live?
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And that defunds a lot of things
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That many of us would like to defund.
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- yeah, well, you know, i know that some people
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Are thinking of themselves like,
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Why would i wanna go back
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To like milking a cow when i've got kroger
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Right down the street?
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I mean, i don't wanna deal
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With the stinky chicken coop
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When i can just have eggs delivered
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With, you know, uber eats.
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- sure. so it's a matter of trust.
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You know, more and more of us,
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And the maha movement, of course,
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Is bringing this to light.
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You know, how many, 10,000 food additives
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That we have in our food compared to european 400.
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You know, and we have a debilitating food system.
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And so what we're seeing is a huge lack of trust.
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The homestead movement, i believe,
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Is literally the next child, the next birthing
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Of the homeschooling movement.
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Homeschooling was birthed when people said,
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I don't trust education anymore.
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Homesteading is i don't trust the food system anymore.
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- hmm. wow. that's so interesting.
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Now, you write your book, you say,
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For three groups of people.
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- well, for three groups of people.
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One is the person who hasn't made the leap yet,
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And they're still kicking the tires
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And saying, you know, do we really wanna, you know,
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Leave the pavement and the street lights
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And pizza delivery?
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And you know, have some chickens
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And, you know, peppers and tomato plants
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And make some cheese and things like that.
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So it's for those that are looking
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As to why, why would we do this?
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The second group is all their friends
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Who when they mention this, say what?
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Why would you,
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Just like you, why would you go, you know,
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Grow eggs when you could buy 'em at kroger's?
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So it's a way to help their friends see the why.
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This is a book about why.
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And then the third group are the people that did leave,
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That did do it, you know, four or five, six years ago.
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And the fantasies they built in their heads, you know,
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We're gonna, oh, we're gonna have this dreamy place,
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This bucolic pastoral, you know, place.
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And oh, you know, five years later, the cow has mastitis.
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The tomatoes have powdery mildew,
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And the dogs just ate half of our chickens.
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And i'm discouraged.
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And it's for those three groups of people,
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The lookers, the naysayers,
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And the frustrated, to bring them back to the core why.
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Why would we do this
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In a techno sophisticated culture?
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Why would we reconnect with our foundational
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Ecological umbilical with god's creation,
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Why would we do that?
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- yeah. - that's the idea.
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- that's so good.
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And it parallels to me our distrust with technology
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And media today too.
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There's so many people going back to the old ways
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Of just being face to face with friends
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Rather than being satisfied with digital facetime
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On their phone.
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People aren't trusting ai and digital as cool as it all is,
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Because something is missing, something's been lost,
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And they wanna go back to a simpler way
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Where time is redeemed, time is precious,
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And like you said, they wanna be more self-sufficient
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So they're not dependent on people
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Who may not have their best interests in mind.
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- that's right. and so what we're seeing,
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Anybody who's in this space of gardening,
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Herbalism, canning, sprouting, preserving food,
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Domestic culinary arts.
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- [host] yeah.
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- anyone who's in that space is being inundated today
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By people wanting to find out what happened.
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I mean, in 2020, we all know what happened in 2020 covid,
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The number one food google search in 2020
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Was how do you make sourdough starter?
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- yeah. - that was
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The number one thing.
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And chickens in 2020 six million households
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Started backyard chicken flocks.
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Well, there were no eggs and then we got bird flu
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And what are we gonna do about eggs?
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- yeah. - and so we're just seeing,
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We got screwworm coming up from texas
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And the beef cattle herd.
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We've got these things developing, i think partly
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Because of a breakdown in immunological function.
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- yeah. - in agriculture.
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And so people are are realizing, wow,
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If i'm gonna have secure, stable, and safe food,
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I better get closer to it.
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- wow. joel, can i do this
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Because i'm convinced that this is a good idea.
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- yeah. - i'm not sure
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How convinced my wife is yet,
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(both laughing)
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But can i. - she needs to read the book?
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- can i do this as a hobby?
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Is there a way to put my little toe in the water
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Rather than diving in and selling the business.
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- in fact, that's exactly what most,
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First homesteaders do.
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- what's a practical first step?
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Get some backyard chickens?
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- backyard chickens are my favorite
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Because they eat all your kitchen scraps
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And they give you wonderful eggs.
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And they're great pets.
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And it's something child friendly.
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A chicken's not gonna run over your child like a cow.
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- that's right. - and you don't need
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Big boundary fences and that sort of thing.
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They're kind of a self-contained deal.
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So chickens are very utilitarian.
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Of course, another one is just a garden.
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Grow certainly some fresh table herbs, parsley
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And basil and things like that.
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And, and then have a garden.
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A kitchen garden for sure.
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And don't grow something exotic that you read about
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In the book.
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Look at your grocery list.
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What is it that you spend money on?
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What do you like?
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Well grow that, don't make this difficult on yourself
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And you just start a piece at a time.
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The single biggest failure in homesteaders
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Is trying to bite off too much.
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- yep. - and then the cow's out,
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The tomatoes need water
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And the weeds are in the green beans.
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And now it's frustrating.
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- joel, what would you say are the best benefits
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About homesteading?
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- oh my, there are so many wonderful ones.
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Number one, every dollar you save is worth $1.50
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'cause you don't have to pay taxes on it.
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- i didn't even think about that.
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- yeah. yeah. so economics, cutting.
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I mean, if you could cut your grocery bill by 70%,
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That's a huge, huge savings.
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And you can put that money somewhere else,
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But do something else with it.
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Number two, is simply the security of knowing your food.
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I know where it grew. i know where it came from.
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Noah did.
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And i think one of the biggest ones
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Is adolescent self-worth.
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Children grow up knowing how to do things,
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And that's what develops self-worth,
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Which then goes against the suicide epidemic
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We have in our youth in this country.
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Then you have immunological function.
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The kids are in the dirt.
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They've got splinters and things.
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They're things to do.
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And so their immune system becomes bolstered
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Because they're actually out and about.
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And so there's magnificent benefits,
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Including the benefit of immersing in stuff
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That's god's, not man's.
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In the city, you've gotta really look to immerse yourself
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In god's handiwork.
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- you've got streetlights and paved roads and cars
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And honking and everything else, buildings.
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On the homestead, if you start, you know,
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Immersing yourself in some of these god's creative acts,
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Now you're immersed.
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Your life is surrounded by stuff
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That's god made, not manmade.
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That fundamentally changes your perspective of things.
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- oh, man, i can't wait.
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I'm gonna go get a set of blueprint plans
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For my chicken house and for everything else.
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I can't wait to tell my wife.
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And i'll tell her that you put me up to it.
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- (joel laughing) okay.
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- after the break, we'll hear more from joel
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On how homesteading affects our economy and children.
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And then later in the program,
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Cookbook author stacy lyn harris will share her story
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Of choosing a modern approach of living off the land.
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So don't go away.
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- food is a love language
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That keeps the generations together.
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- yeah.
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- and i love that about history.
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(computer whooshing) - welcome back.
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We're talking with farmer, author and lecturer joel salatin
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On everything you need to know about homesteading
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With his new book, "homestead tsunami".
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Joel, we were talking about the benefits of homesteading,
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Of growing your own food.
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Is it really economically beneficial for a family
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To begin this idea of homesteading,
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Even though it's gonna cost me money
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To build a chicken coop.
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It's gonna cost me money to invest in irrigation systems
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Or put up some sort of a barn for a goat or a sheep?
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- yeah, well, there is some investment there.
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But the payback of having your own groceries is huge.
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I mean, the average american family
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Spends over $2,000 per person on groceries.
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Well, a four-person family, that's $8,000.
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If you can cut that by 60% or 70% growing your own,
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That's a huge savings.
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- mmmm, good point.
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- and look at the benefits
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Of a four or five-year-old, you know,
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Learning how to do things: gather eggs, grow a tomato.
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You know, i mean, one of the reasons
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I think we have such a self-worth problem
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Among our youth today is because
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They grow up not doing anything except screen time.
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I'm not a psychiatrist, but i think self-worth
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Comes from successfully accomplishing meaningful tasks.
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- yeah.
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- and on the homestead, there's tons of tasks to do.
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You gotta, you know, plant the tomatoes, pick the corn,
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You know, get in the kitchen and can
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And, you know, make applesauce.
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Those are all really important tasks
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That you can be successful in.
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- joel, i love this.
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In your book, you say, "we caretake what is not ours
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"to bring glory to god who owns it."
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Can you unpack that for us?
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- sure.
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We are so divorced, kirk,
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So much divorced in our society right now.
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We're so, you know, techno sophisticated
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That we're divorced from actual visceral participation
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In the mystery and the majesty of god's creation.
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You know, an earthworm,
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You know, a tomato,
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You know, a cow, a chicken.
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And what happens when you abdicate
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That personal participatory touching connection
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To god's creation,
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You get pretty proud about what, you know, what i can do.
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And we've grown a generation now that thinks
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They got the world at the end of their fingertips.
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"all i gotta do is move the screen
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"and man, you know, i can change everything."
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And so learning about life,
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That, you know, if the tomato dies
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Because we didn't water it or a bug got in it or whatever,
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The game of life doesn't give you another tomato plant
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In a second like it does on a, you know-
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- [kirk] a video game.
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- if you wreck your car on a video game,
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You get another car and you go on your merry way.
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And that creates a common-sense humility, i think,
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Into adulthood that we're really missing.
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And the time factor.
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You know, you plant that tomato and you watch it every day.
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And it grows a little bit and it grows a little bit.
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It finally gets a blossom and you see the bees pollinate it.
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And you see little green tomatoes come on it.
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I dunno why i'm stuck on tomatoes.
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I really like tomatoes, i guess.
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And finally, that red tomato comes,
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And you realize that there's a time.
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- yeah.
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- and we're living in a very impatient time.
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- that's right.
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"i want you to do this now.
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"i'm very impatient."
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But working with god's creation and his time schedule
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Gives you a sense of seasons and times
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And increments and.
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- waiting for change.
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That's all really good stuff to come into adulthood with.
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- i think it is too.
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And i think that we've made it overly complicated
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For ourselves as parents trying to raise children.
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And i think of other things like that
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Natural circadian rhythm when we go to sleep,
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When the sun goes down, just like most animals
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That are up during the day, they go to sleep
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And they wake up with the sun,
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Just like my chickens in my backyard.
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And i think, gosh, all of this is actually pretty natural.
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This is actually the way we used to do it, the way
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That our great grandparents used to do it.
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And now we're trying to read books to figure out
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How to do it again.
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But really, it's pretty intuitive if you don't
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Live your life with all of these electronic,
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Sophisticated technological crutches
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That get in the way of that stuff, right?
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- yeah and to be sure i'm not anti-technology.
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- okay.
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- listen, you know, it has never been easier to homestead
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Than to, think about the people who, you know,
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When abraham lincoln did the homestead act,
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Who actually did homestead and went out
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Away from their families,
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They didn't have even have a telephone.
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These folks went into the, into it with nothing.
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And today we've got all sorts of, you know, gurus
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To tell you how to can and how to freeze dry.
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We've got the technology, we've got instapots
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And crock pots and timed bake.
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We got hot and cold running water.
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You know, we don't have to get up at four o'clock
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To start the fire on the stove so there's hot enough-
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- [kirk] right.
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- griddle for when pa comes in from milking the cow.
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It's never been easier to grow our own food,
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To cook from scratch, and to be self-sustaining
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As it is right now.
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And so we live in a wonderful time.
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This is not anti-technology.
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It is using technology for its best use, which is
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To actually come humbly before a stewardship mentality
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And say, how can we, you know,
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How can we steward this better
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And easier and more efficiently?
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- you also say in your book, "bearing fruit is perhaps
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"the ultimate test of authentic faith."
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Can you unpack that for us?
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- sure.
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So many times faith is considered to be
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Some sort of focus group discussion.
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Let's talk about, you know, mercy,
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Let's talk about forgiveness.
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But when we interact with nature in a visceral way
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Like this, we can actually see the, you know,
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The forgiveness, the mercy, the abundance of god's provision
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In an incredibly visceral way.
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I mean, i can tell you, when people come to our farm,
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We want them to leave saying, "oh, we just saw forgiveness.
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"we just saw mercy.
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"we just saw abundance."
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- what does that look like?
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- it's an object lesson, yeah.
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So for example, we've built a lot of ponds on our farm
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To collect surface runoff which becomes a flood problem
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For our neighbors downstream.
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Instead we collect it and then we can use it for irrigation.
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So when everything else is brown and dry, we can irrigate
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With surface runoff, not exploiting groundwater or springs
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Or creeks 'cause that's the commons,
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But instead we're coming alongside god's handiwork,
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If you will, and creating more abundance-
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- right.
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- out of what he gave, not exploiting it
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From the neighbors,
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Not stealing it from the neighbors.
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- preventing damage from flooding.
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- preventing it, being good neighbors, golden rule, okay?
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So you can actually see what this is.
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The problem is in our faith journey, most of us
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Aren't seeing, for example, in our lifestyle
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And in our menu, what we profess to believe in the pew.
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- i see, they're more ideas-
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- yes.
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- that bounce around inside of our brains
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That we discuss in our bible study meetings.
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But what you're seeing is loving my neighbor
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As myself, honoring god and praising him for his provision.
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- yes and actually having a physical manifestation
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Of that outworking of our faith journey.
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- [kirk] yeah.
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- and so, you know, so we prune the grapes
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And they make way more grapes.
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- [kirk] yeah.
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- wow, god's pruning on me, you know?
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- [kirk] that's right.
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- he wants more grapes.
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- you said, "he's the vine.
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"we're the branches."
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He's cleaning us.
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- yeah, exactly.
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And so much of the pastoral expressions
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Of divine interaction with us is lost today on us.
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- [kirk] that's right.
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- because we don't interact.
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And so the homestead creates
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This kind of familial wraparound, if you will,
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To close those.
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- those academic loops
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And make them very,
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Very objective and physical.
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- i love this.
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Man i love this.
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It's so good.
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You offer tours of your farm
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And you have an open door policy
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So that people can just drop in
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And see your whole operation.
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What does this do for the community around the farm?
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- so what it does is that it,
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It enables us to offer a connection
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To anybody that wants to see,
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And it offers transparency on our part.
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And, if i may be bold,
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It, it, it, gives us some accountability on our part.
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Hey, somebody could drop in here anytime.
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- [kirk] yeah. - so there's no,
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That we don't have,
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We don't have any, no, no trespassing signs.
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Nobody has to put on, you know, a hazmat suit
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And walk through sheep dip to visit our farm.
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There's no, there's no guard towers.
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So anyone can come from anywhere in the world,
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Anytime to see anything,
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Anywhere unannounced.
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That's our, that's our commitment to transparency,
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And that, that creates a level of credibility
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And authenticity within the greater community
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Compared to a typical industrial farm
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Which doesn't allow people to come and visit.
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- [kirk] yeah. - we want people to come
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And see, see that the lord is good.
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- so joel, i know there are people right now who are saying,
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You know what,
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I think, i think i like this,
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But for those who are not ready yet to,
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To put on the straw hat
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And get the corn cob pipe and the suspenders or,
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Or buy the, the full length denim jumper for their wife
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As their daily uniform,
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What are some small steps someone could take
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To begin to move in this direction?
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- sure.
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So homesteading is not,
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Is not an act of physical.
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It's an act of the heart first
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That then comes through the head
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And then manifests itself in the hands and the feet.
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You can have a mentality of homesteading
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In an apartment.
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I mean, if you, if you
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Are enamored of the idea of, you know,
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Having a sourdough mother running,
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You know, on the window sill
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And maybe a quart jar of mung beans sprouting on the window
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You, you, you--
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- i'm sorry.
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The phrase sourdough mother,
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For those who don't understand what a mother is
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Thinks that you just insulted your wife's mom.
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(man laughing)
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- no, this is bread making.
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This is sourdough bread. - mother, it's like,
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It's like apple cider vinegar, the mother.
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Okay. - yes, absolutely.
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It's the bacterial, you know,
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Foundation of the fermenting process.
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- okay and the mung beans?
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- yeah.
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Mung beans on the window sill sprouting, okay.
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That can be done in a quart jar.
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Those kinds--
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- you know what i make is sauerkraut.
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- yeah! - in cheese,
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In the cupboard, right there.
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And it tastes fantastic.
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- absolutely.
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There are so many things that you can do.
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I mean, you can go to farmer's market
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And buy a bushel of green beans and can them, you know.
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I mean, we, we buy, we buy apples by the bushel,
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Bring 'em home and, and, you know,
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And make our own, we make 80 quarts of applesauce a year.
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This isn't necessarily about jumping out of the city,
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Although that's what the first thing people think about it.
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It is about moving your life and your intentionality
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So when you sit down and you partake of god's provision,
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God's providence for you,
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You have, you have participated
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And brought authenticity to that,
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To that feeding.
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- yep.
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- when you do that,
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You begin,
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You begin developing a very grateful spirit
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To the work involved.
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It's not just a can on a shelf.
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It's not just popping in the microwave.
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- [kirk] right. - you've actually
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Seen the work involved in providence,
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And that leads you then
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To the work involved in spiritual providence.
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Oh, that doesn't come easy either.
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- yeah. - you know.
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This isn't a, a spiritual pill we take you know,
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Once a week and we're up and running.
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- [kirk] yeah. - it cost god his son.
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It cost christ his life,
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And it cost us denying ourselves
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Picking up our cross and following him.
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- that's right.
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Oh, i love it.
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Joel, thanks so much for talking with us.
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(gentle music)
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After the break, stacey lynn harris will share
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Her experience of homesteading
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And will show us how to make jalapeno cornbread.
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So stay with us.
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(bright music)
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(bright music)
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(bright music)
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Stacey lynn harris is a southern lifestyle expert,
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A television host,
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A bestselling author and speaker,
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Author of several acclaimed cookbooks,
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Including love language of the south and harvest.
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She blends her homesteading and passion
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For family and home with fresh, easy recipes
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Often sourced from her own garden
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Or wild game, hunted by.
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- by her husband.
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How cool is that?
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- uh-huh, it's good, it's good.
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- thank you for coming on "takeaways."
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- oh, i'm excited to be here.
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This is gonna be great fun.
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- this is a great education for me,
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A guy who grew up in los angeles, california.
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I'm a city guy, but now i live in tennessee
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And have the opportunity
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To do some of the things i've always wanted to do,
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And so look at me, i've got boots.
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- i know, that's awesome, i love it.
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- i've got a ford f1.
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I've got a little tractor at home
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And i've never had any land,
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But finally i'm getting some.
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- oh, i'm so excited. - and so-
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- that's great, you're gonna love it.
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- and we homeschooled our kids,
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And i know that the homesteading is kind of an extension
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Of that same way of thinking.
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- it is, it totally is.
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- well, i wanna hear your story.
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What took you from being a professional lawyer
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To a lifestyle of homeschooling
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And homesteading as a mom?
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- i got married. (laughing)
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- [kirk] that did it, huh?
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- that's probably it.
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- people who got married- - i got married.
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- they didn't start churning their own butter
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Just because of that.
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- well, we didn't do it right away, but i got married
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And i was in law school when we got married,
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And so i, you know, continued to do that
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And took the bar exam and everything,
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And then i had a baby in law school.
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We moved to birmingham,
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And, you know, scott was hunting all the time,
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Not all the time because he started school,
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Dental school there,
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So he was hunting and bringing home
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A lot of wild game and fish.
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I did not know what in the world to do with it.
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- yeah. - i really didn't like
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Him gone all the time, and i'm like, "you know what?
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I've gotta do something here.
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I need to join in on his passion."
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And so i thought the best way to do that
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Would be to cook the stuff he brought home,
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Plus i didn't like it that much
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And it was taking up a whole bunch of room
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In my refrigerator and freezer,
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So i was like, "i gotta have space,"
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So we had to get it out of there,
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So i just started cooking it, learned how to cook it,
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And it's the hardest thing to probably learn how to cook,
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Although it's not really that hard,
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It's just different
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Than your domesticated beef and all that.
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So learned how to cook it
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And then we didn't have really a whole lot of money
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'cause i was working part-time as a lawyer there.
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I was like, "well, let's start a garden."
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So we started gardening
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And then we moved back to montgomery.
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I had more children by then,
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And then we had another one on the way
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And we added chickens,
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And then we added bees,
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And then we made a smokehouse,
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And you know, the list goes on and it was just accidental,
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It just kind of happened,
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And then we decided to homeschool,
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And the best thing for children in the world
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Is to be outside and to be running around
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And to have chores, it's a very big deal,
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And so work was real important,
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And that, you know, that kind of sealed the deal.
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- i love how you refer to yourself
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As an accidental homesteader.
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- yeah, it's very accidental.
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- for most of us, we're like,
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"i don't think i could ever accidentally step into that."
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- you would, yeah, you can.
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- but you're telling the story and it's believable.
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He's bringing home all of this food.
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You're not gonna throw it away.
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- no. - so might as well learn
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How to cook it, and now you-
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- [stacy] and it's healthier.
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- that's right, and when you have kids,
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They love to be outside,
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They love animals.
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- yeah, they do.
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- and my wife and i, even though we grew up in california,
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Not on a homestead, the best thing in the world
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Was to get 'em outside, take 'em to the mountains,
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Take 'em on a hike, let 'em roll around in the mud,
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Go to the beach, do everything you could
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Just to get out of the house or they'll go crazy.
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- they will. - picks 'em up inside.
00:31:49.531 --> 00:31:50.799
- they will, absolutely, and you'll go crazy.
00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:52.701
- that's right. - so you've got
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To get 'em outside.
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And then we lived in a neighborhood
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For a while when we started homeschooling,
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And i'm like, "we have got to move from here,"
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And i needed to be private
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'cause when we started homeschooling, just like you,
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It was not a popular thing.
00:32:03.412 --> 00:32:04.680
- right. - and so i
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Really didn't want onlookers, you know?
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So i was like, "we need to be out somewhere."
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So then we moved and, you know,
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Started our homestead out there,
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But we only have seven acres where we are.
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We've got more than that on our hunting land
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And we have orchards there.
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We also, we manage the land there,
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And we actually built a cabin too that was off-grid,
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So that was kind of fun, but that's an off topic.
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- that's, yeah, got it.
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Because i think like that's next level.
00:32:31.206 --> 00:32:32.608
- yeah, that's next level. - you go homesteading,
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And you go off-grid, that's a whole other thing.
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So you have seven children?
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- i do. - seven children,
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And when you and your husband decided
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To do the full homesteading thing,
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You didn't like turn off
00:32:44.153 --> 00:32:45.354
The electricity or anything, did you?
00:32:45.354 --> 00:32:46.688
- no, except for when we went to the cabin.
00:32:46.688 --> 00:32:49.091
- to the cabin, but it was really just,
00:32:49.091 --> 00:32:51.360
Was it a desire to give your kids experiences?
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Was it a desire to feel better
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About where you were getting your food and-
00:32:56.999 --> 00:32:59.635
- well, that's definitely part of it.
00:32:59.635 --> 00:33:01.203
- not all of it. - but part of it is taken,
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We didn't go into this,
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We're gonna just like go back into the pioneer day
00:33:05.207 --> 00:33:09.578
And we're gonna do everything like that
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And i sure didn't wear the clothes and all that, you know,
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But we did make it to where we took the best
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Out of that world and then the best of our world,
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And we combined it- - why did you do it, though?
00:33:21.690 --> 00:33:23.225
- because it's a better life.
00:33:23.225 --> 00:33:24.393
- it's a better life?
00:33:24.393 --> 00:33:25.294
- it's just a better life.
00:33:25.294 --> 00:33:26.662
- people are listening to us right now going what?
00:33:26.662 --> 00:33:28.263
- to talking about it- - it is.
00:33:28.931 --> 00:33:30.332
- the better life is having my xbox, my netflix.
00:33:30.332 --> 00:33:31.934
- no.
00:33:31.934 --> 00:33:33.035
- and that i've got a nine to five
00:33:33.035 --> 00:33:34.436
So i can come home and relax when i get in the house.
00:33:34.436 --> 00:33:36.505
- no, no, no,
00:33:36.505 --> 00:33:38.373
No, and we still will watch our netflix or whatever,
00:33:38.373 --> 00:33:40.976
Every once in a while, but it's a, very limited thing.
00:33:40.976 --> 00:33:44.913
You're outdoors, you're working together.
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It's very good for the family.
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And i feel like,
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Better family, better nation, better community.
00:33:50.686 --> 00:33:53.589
- yep.
00:33:53.589 --> 00:33:54.656
- it starts with the family.
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And if you have that, then you've got,
00:33:55.824 --> 00:33:58.494
You've got everything.
00:33:58.494 --> 00:33:59.394
You can change the world.
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And, i think the gardening aspect of it,
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They had something to do, there was work,
00:34:04.700 --> 00:34:06.602
They were responsible, i was raising leaders.
00:34:06.602 --> 00:34:09.438
They learned how to be innovative.
00:34:09.438 --> 00:34:11.240
They learned how to be diligent and hardworking
00:34:11.240 --> 00:34:14.143
And not to quit.
00:34:14.143 --> 00:34:15.811
And i think that those were probably a lot of my reasons,
00:34:15.811 --> 00:34:19.815
Scott may have had different reasons.
00:34:19.815 --> 00:34:21.683
I, you know,
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I think he,
00:34:22.651 --> 00:34:23.952
He really loved the outdoors part of it,
00:34:23.952 --> 00:34:26.088
And he was an outdoors man anyway.
00:34:26.088 --> 00:34:27.656
I didn't grow up like that, he didn't grow up that way.
00:34:27.656 --> 00:34:29.992
But it just, the homestead and homeschooling,
00:34:29.992 --> 00:34:32.895
And self-sufficiency all kind of go hand-in-hand.
00:34:32.895 --> 00:34:35.764
- yeah.
00:34:35.764 --> 00:34:37.199
When you made this transition from law school and,
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:41.870
You know, buying your meat at kroger
00:34:42.638 --> 00:34:44.439
To now you're just cooking up meat
00:34:44.439 --> 00:34:46.808
That your husband's bringing home, and the garden
00:34:46.808 --> 00:34:48.644
And the whole thing, was that a difficult transition?
00:34:48.644 --> 00:34:52.014
- it was a little bit.
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I had,
00:34:53.148 --> 00:34:54.383
I worried, what if something happens to scott?
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I have seven kids, what if something happens to him,
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And i'm not practicing law and you know,
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You have to practice to,
00:35:01.723 --> 00:35:04.059
You know, it's like, what do you like, wanna be 60 years old
00:35:04.059 --> 00:35:07.229
And, you know, something happened to you,
00:35:07.229 --> 00:35:08.864
And you've not practiced.
00:35:08.864 --> 00:35:10.132
And so, yes, i was scared about that.
00:35:10.132 --> 00:35:13.035
And then i felt guilty for not using my degree,
00:35:13.035 --> 00:35:15.771
But i actually did use my degree.
00:35:15.771 --> 00:35:17.773
So,
00:35:17.773 --> 00:35:19.141
In so many areas.
00:35:19.141 --> 00:35:20.609
But i don't feel like god's finished with that yet.
00:35:20.609 --> 00:35:22.778
- yeah.
00:35:22.778 --> 00:35:24.246
- i still have a lot, i think, to offer in that area.
00:35:24.246 --> 00:35:26.848
In fact, because of the lifestyle we have chosen,
00:35:26.848 --> 00:35:29.751
I feel like, more than ever, i feel like we've got
00:35:29.751 --> 00:35:33.055
To keep our constitutional rights to raise a godly family,
00:35:33.055 --> 00:35:36.959
Easily, to put food on the table that we produce,
00:35:36.959 --> 00:35:40.596
If we want to, and to educate our kids.
00:35:40.596 --> 00:35:42.898
So, i don't know, i mean, something may happen to where,
00:35:42.898 --> 00:35:45.400
You know, i do something with that.
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.736
- when a family decides we want a homestead
00:35:48.637 --> 00:35:50.739
Or we want to in, incorporate more of that homesteading
00:35:50.739 --> 00:35:53.642
Lifestyle into our family,
00:35:53.642 --> 00:35:55.944
Do those families still have jobs
00:35:56.678 --> 00:35:59.414
Or is it like, no, we don't need a job
00:35:59.414 --> 00:36:01.450
Because i'm gonna go kill our dinner tonight
00:36:01.450 --> 00:36:04.219
And we're gonna grow our breakfast in the morning,
00:36:04.219 --> 00:36:06.021
Therefore we don't really need that, or-
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- that could be quite expensive.
00:36:08.357 --> 00:36:09.958
I mean, starting a garden is not the cheapest thing ever,
00:36:09.958 --> 00:36:12.928
To do.
00:36:12.928 --> 00:36:13.895
- so you still have to keep a,
00:36:13.895 --> 00:36:14.863
A job outside the homestead?
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- a lot of people don't,
00:36:16.565 --> 00:36:18.000
A lot of people will make that into a business.
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:19.968
And we've talked about that around the table,
00:36:19.968 --> 00:36:22.938
Not that we wanted to do that, but,
00:36:22.938 --> 00:36:25.173
Because all of our kids have gone on to get like,
00:36:25.173 --> 00:36:27.743
Secondary degrees, like after college
00:36:27.743 --> 00:36:29.811
And, you know, we have, we're big educated,
00:36:29.811 --> 00:36:32.347
I mean, education is really big to us.
00:36:32.347 --> 00:36:34.116
And so, you know, we do different things.
00:36:34.116 --> 00:36:36.652
But there are people that create businesses
00:36:36.652 --> 00:36:38.754
Right from the homestead-
00:36:38.754 --> 00:36:39.788
- by selling what they grow.
00:36:39.788 --> 00:36:40.722
- they sell what they grow.
00:36:40.722 --> 00:36:42.124
They, i don't have, we don't have enough
00:36:42.124 --> 00:36:44.760
Of production to be able to do that.
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.029
We could maybe sell, you know, a few eggs here and there,
00:36:47.029 --> 00:36:49.331
But not enough to sustain, you know, a lifestyle,
00:36:49.331 --> 00:36:53.168
To be able to live, yeah.
00:36:53.168 --> 00:36:55.337
- if someone's considering shifting into this lifestyle,
00:36:55.337 --> 00:36:59.708
What is one of the things you might say, hey, now,
00:37:00.709 --> 00:37:04.279
Now watch for this
00:37:04.279 --> 00:37:05.547
Because this could be a rude awakening for you.
00:37:05.547 --> 00:37:07.082
Maybe something that surprised you, you weren't expecting
00:37:07.082 --> 00:37:09.518
That took a while to get used to.
00:37:09.518 --> 00:37:11.453
- well, when you say that, the biggest surprise for me
00:37:11.453 --> 00:37:14.056
Was when we got chickens,
00:37:14.056 --> 00:37:15.290
'cause i wasn't expecting to get chickens.
00:37:15.290 --> 00:37:17.125
And so, scott was out there building something with the kids
00:37:17.125 --> 00:37:20.796
And he was, you know, that this is the innovative part.
00:37:20.796 --> 00:37:23.098
And he had bicycle wheels he was using
00:37:23.098 --> 00:37:25.867
And old doors he was using for a chicken tractor.
00:37:25.867 --> 00:37:28.704
And i'm like, he's just, you know, making a project up,
00:37:28.704 --> 00:37:31.173
You know, so that he's teaching them how to do something.
00:37:31.173 --> 00:37:33.175
Well, i get a call the next day
00:37:33.175 --> 00:37:34.843
And it was a lot of chirps at, you know,
00:37:34.843 --> 00:37:38.647
Anyway, the post office guy called me at six 30 and said,
00:37:38.647 --> 00:37:42.384
Your box is very loud.
00:37:42.884 --> 00:37:44.353
You need to come pick up a box from the post office,
00:37:44.353 --> 00:37:46.755
And it happened to be a bunch of chickens.
00:37:46.755 --> 00:37:48.423
But anyway, that was a surprise.
00:37:48.423 --> 00:37:49.858
- chickens were in your mailbox?
00:37:49.858 --> 00:37:51.360
- they were up, they were at the delivery.
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.895
I had to go pick them up from the post office,
00:37:53.895 --> 00:37:55.764
That was down the road.
00:37:55.764 --> 00:37:56.598
- okay. - yeah.
00:37:56.598 --> 00:37:57.899
- how, has your faith in god had, has it played
00:37:57.899 --> 00:38:00.902
An important role in you making this transition?
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- oh yeah.
00:38:03.839 --> 00:38:05.107
- and living this life with your family?
00:38:05.107 --> 00:38:06.408
- absolutely, because there are a lot of,
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And i won't say sacrifices because they're not sacrifices,
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But you are giving up another life, for this life.
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And you,
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Being led by god to,
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To teach your children, to homeschool,
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I feel like all of that is really a calling.
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And you are giving up, like i had to say no
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To just about everything.
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- and i didn't see people forever.
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I mean, besides, you know, going to church.
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And i would go out once a week
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And that seems like a real sacrifice for a lot of people.
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To me, it wasn't
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Because i was called to do it and i had purpose,
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And that was my purpose,
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And i had to do what i had to do.
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Other people might do it different than i do,
00:38:44.946 --> 00:38:46.782
But we did the old way of homeschooling.
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And we didn't do co-ops
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And we didn't do any of that.
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Not that that's better.
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It's just what we chose to do.
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- well, i can't think of anything more important
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Than stronger families, closer families,
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More god-centered families.
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- yeah. - and i'm so excited
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Because we're about to cook some-
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- [stacy] oh, yeah.
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They're great. - some of the recipes
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In your book, but-
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- [stacy] yes. - before we go away,
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I wanna just say this.
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In your book, "the love language of the south," you wrote
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That, "home is where life is real, where dreams begin,
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Where creativity is sparked
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And industry takes place."
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Well, i'm so glad that you've written this
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And we're gonna get into it.
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Right after the break, stacy's going to show us
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How to make jalapeno cornbread
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And then talk to us about family traditions
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And connecting with younger generations at the dinner table.
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So stay with us.
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We're back with bestselling author and speaker,
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Stacy lyn harris, sharing a recipe
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From her book, "love language of the south."
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I am so excited.
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This smells so good already with this hot oil.
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What are we making?
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- we are making my granny's fried cornbread
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Or hot water cornbread.
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And i assume that during the depression,
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They probably made this a lot
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Because it only has a couple of ingredients
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And it's self-rising cornmeal.
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- okay.
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- and just the oil and hot water.
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- wow. - that's it.
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I know, isn't that crazy?
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- it is so simple.
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Now, your granny made this.
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- she did, she did.
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And this is all i would eat at her house.
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Yeah, yeah.
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- well, when you put the jalapenos in there,
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Then you get little veggies in there with your cornmeal.
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- yes, and that would be next,
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But i forgot the jalapeno this morning
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With all the excitement of coming on the show.
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So you would put the jalapeno in now,
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Or you could put it in after the batter is made.
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But you just put it as much jalapenos you want,
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Red, green, whatever you want.
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- okay. - yes.
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- sounds great. - i'm just gonna add
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This boiling water.
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So it has to be boiling.
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And i've got this, and i'm gonna put it right down in here.
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You wanna stir this for me real quick?
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- [kirk] yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Sure. - all right.
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And a little bit more,
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And you're gonna want the consistency to
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Look like wet sand.
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- okay. - and the memories that i have
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Of my granny when we made this
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Or she made this, it's just like none other.
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You know, it's like, to me,
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When "love language of the south" was written,
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Because food is the southerner's love language.
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- it really is, and they'll fry anything.
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- yes.
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- they'll fry the butter in the south.
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- yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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And you get all of your senses.
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You get the smell, the taste, the feel if you're making it.
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You know, you just...
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It's an awesome thing to experience all of this.
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- [kirk] it's looking like what's in right about now.
00:41:26.976 --> 00:41:28.377
- [stacy] that looks really, really good, doesn't it?
00:41:28.377 --> 00:41:29.645
- [kirk] yeah. - i think that
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That's probably...
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I'm gonna add just a little bit more.
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- [kirk] okay. - all right.
00:41:32.782 --> 00:41:33.983
And then it's probably about there.
00:41:33.983 --> 00:41:34.984
- all right. - okay.
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So now all we're gonna do is put
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A little bit into the hot grease.
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- okay. - and hopefully
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It's not too hot.
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All right, here we go.
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So i feel like
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Sometimes the generations have been forgotten.
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And i feel like that...
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That food is a love language
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That keeps the generations together.
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- yeah.
00:41:59.709 --> 00:42:00.776
Oh, yeah. - and i love that
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About history.
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And in fact, i remember studying history in school.
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You know, we were talking about homeschooling,
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And i think one of the problems with history...
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I hated history.
00:42:09.819 --> 00:42:10.720
- yeah. - growing up.
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But it was because we talked about wars.
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I don't care anything about wars,
00:42:13.556 --> 00:42:14.757
But i did care about food.
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So when you start looking at food as history
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And it kind of brings everything together.
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- yeah, yeah. - and i'm like, okay,
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Now we can talk about that war.
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What did they eat during the war?
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What did they wear?
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What did the women wear at that time?
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You know, and stuff like that.
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And you kind of can make these connections.
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- and you feel like connected to generations gone by.
00:42:30.873 --> 00:42:33.409
- yes. - my grandmother used
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To make a ghirardelli chocolate cake.
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- ooh. - no one ever made it
00:42:36.512 --> 00:42:37.346
Like her.
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And every year,
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We wanted that- - oh, i love that.
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- and that alone for our birthday.
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- okay. - now, how are these doing?
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These are starting to turn golden brown.
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- yeah, and they're probably ready.
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Let's try one.
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Let's turn it over. - [kirk] oh, turn it over?
00:42:46.389 --> 00:42:47.223
[stacy] yep, turn it.
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- [kirk] thought you meant eat it.
00:42:48.324 --> 00:42:49.325
I thought- - [stacy] no.
00:42:49.325 --> 00:42:50.526
- [kirk] not yet. - [stacy] not yet.
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Okay, ready?
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There we go.
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Yeah, that's looking pretty good.
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Let's do that.
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All right, turn 'em all over, yep.
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There we go.
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All right, and then here we go with this one.
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Does that not look the best?
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I mean, think about- - it does.
00:43:00.936 --> 00:43:01.771
- a big bowl of chili
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And you've got this on the side,
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Or either the chili on the side, which is what i would do,
00:43:05.207 --> 00:43:08.310
And i would eat all of this.
00:43:08.310 --> 00:43:09.578
And so i have to make like four and five
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Of these recipes, you know, for my family.
00:43:11.347 --> 00:43:14.850
- and it's so simple.
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I mean, this is just cornmeal, water-
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- [stacy] that's it. - [kirk] fried in oil.
00:43:17.286 --> 00:43:18.587
- [stacy] yeah. - [kirk] or oil,
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As they say in the south.
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- that's the way i said it a minute ago.
00:43:20.890 --> 00:43:21.957
Yeah, yes. - what about salt?
00:43:21.957 --> 00:43:23.526
- you could add salt, but self fries has it in it already.
00:43:23.526 --> 00:43:25.928
- oh, it has it already.
00:43:25.928 --> 00:43:27.063
- really, you know,
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- that's like tea - need a whole lot more.
00:43:28.764 --> 00:43:30.132
- in the south, the sugar's already in there.
00:43:30.132 --> 00:43:31.067
- yeah, it's already in it.
00:43:31.067 --> 00:43:32.435
It's made with sweetness, of course, you know?
00:43:32.435 --> 00:43:33.669
Yeah, and i think that's some of the stuff
00:43:33.669 --> 00:43:35.638
That we're missing, tradition-wise in the south.
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Is really that sweetness.
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I feel like that's kind of been lost.
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And i wrote the book so that people would have some kindness
00:43:42.712 --> 00:43:46.148
And would, i could show you how to create kindness
00:43:46.148 --> 00:43:51.420
In the life of another person.
00:43:52.054 --> 00:43:53.656
- i also love the getting back to basics feeling
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That this brings to people.
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Do you grow corn, and make your own cornmeal as well.
00:44:04.066 --> 00:44:07.236
- we have grown, now i will not say a lot,
00:44:07.236 --> 00:44:10.139
Because we don't have a whole lot of acres
00:44:10.139 --> 00:44:11.607
Where we actually grow.
00:44:11.607 --> 00:44:12.942
But we have grown it and we have gotten it.
00:44:12.942 --> 00:44:15.344
And we have dried it and made it into cornmeal.
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So we have done that.
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I've done grits, which you can do this probably,
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With even rice.
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I mean, there's so many things you can do with food.
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Because i've made grits with rice before.
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You know, like put it in a food processor
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And blend it all up
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And then you can make it just like you'd make normal grits.
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But then it's rice and not corn, so it's really cheap.
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- right, and you could also cook this
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If you don't wanna use seed oils,
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You could also use beef tallow.
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- oh! yes! - or bacon grease, or butter.
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- and that's the best. - right?
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- my grandmother and me,
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We both have like bacon grease next our...
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What's it looking' like?
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- [host] i don't know, should i flip it back over?
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- yeah. - see what that looks like?
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- oh, that's looking good!
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Let's flip them all back over
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And leave them in there for a little bit.
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- [host] oh yeah.
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- we have that next
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To our oven and our stove.
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And then, with scott hunting.
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We have wild pigs, you've gotta get rid of the population
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Of the wild pigs or they will get all of your deer,
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And turkey eggs, and everything else.
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Not the deer, eggs.
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The pigs create this incredible, just incredible fat.
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And so, we will use that fat and any other renderings.
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- yeah, beef tallow, or.
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- which is great for your face, too.
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People are just using it all the time.
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- you see that in lotions now. - yeah, you do, you do.
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And they do all kinds of things.
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- yeah, it's natural, you know?
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It's awesome.
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- now, in your book, do you have recipes
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For dinner and lunch?
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- i do, i do, i do. - can you talk about
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These different options - yes.
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- and how that fits into the homesteading lifestyle?
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- i do.
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And then, in the back of the book,
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There's like...it'll say like, anniversary dinner.
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And it's got everything you could ever want.
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It's got a christmas menu, it's got a holiday section,
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A new years section.
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It's got a farmer's market and gardening section.
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It's got...it's just all about the south.
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It's got hunting and fishing.
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So it's got home hunting recipes, or some deer recipes,
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Some turkey recipes, some fish recipes,
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So yeah, everything we do here,
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And everything that we're about.
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- what are some of the messages in the book
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That you hope people take away from the love languages?
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- well, self sustainable lifestyle, for one.
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Which is very southern.
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I mean, we're pretty self sufficient people, here.
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- yeah, yeah. - the kindness, thoughtfulness
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Of the southern people, you know,
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We're known for hospitality
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And i feel like we're kind of getting away from that
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A little bit because of the internet
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And everything's kind of getting morphed together
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And we're losing some of that culture.
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So i wanted to bring some of that culture back
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And bring back my granny's way of life a little bit
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Because that's part of the history
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That's a good part of history.
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Let's turn those.
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And so, to me that was important.
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The connections we make with each other
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At the family table.
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The table is a very important place.
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And i feel like that world problems can be solved
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And are solved at the kitchen table.
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And that's really important to me
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I want people to leave their phones, their baggage,
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Everything at the door and really really look at each other
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At the kitchen table.
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And i think that the food in the book
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Will help people to be able to do that,
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'cause it's not hard at all.
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None of my recipes are hard and they're very southern.
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- do you have any favorite recipes in the book?
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- all of them are my favorites, because.
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- all of them?
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- yeah, 'cause i would've put in there,
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You said my favorite, it's like my new favorite,
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Everything's my new favorite.
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- if there was one that you could not take out,
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If you had to cull it down a little bit,
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What's one that you'd just say,
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I would never take that one out?
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- fried chicken would be right on up there.
00:47:51.961 --> 00:47:54.797
This recipe would be another one that would be up there.
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There's a homemade soup,
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And it's funny 'cause my grandmother
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Would call it vegetable soup, but it had beef in it.
00:48:00.736 --> 00:48:03.405
And so, it's meaty, it's delicious
00:48:03.405 --> 00:48:06.141
That is one of my very favorite things.
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But you know, i think to myself, is it really that good?
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Or is it because
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Of the relationship i had with my grandmother?
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You know, and it was just a memory?
00:48:13.949 --> 00:48:16.051
- they go together.
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The food, relationship, all the good times and memories.
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I think that's why
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I love my mom's famous chocolate chip cookies so much as...
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- well, because it doesn't- - [stacy] yeah, yeah-
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- just taste good. - [stacy] yeah.
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- it reminds me of my mom.
00:48:30.399 --> 00:48:31.533
- yes, yes. - and it reminds me
00:48:31.533 --> 00:48:32.501
Of all my birthday parties and
00:48:32.501 --> 00:48:33.502
Christmas and- - yes.
00:48:33.502 --> 00:48:34.770
- and i think one of my favorite memories
00:48:34.770 --> 00:48:36.405
Of my mom's chocolate chip cookies was on
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The set of "growing pains".
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And my sister candace cameron,
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- [stacy] yeah. - who's on the set
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Of "full house". - yes.
00:48:41.977 --> 00:48:42.945
- every friday was tape night,
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And the whole crew and cast would wait for my mom
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To bring in her cookies.
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- [stacy] oh.
00:48:49.051 --> 00:48:50.352
- and they would be gone in about two seconds.
00:48:50.352 --> 00:48:51.153
- don't you know it.
00:48:51.153 --> 00:48:52.654
- prop- that was her version of your granny's cornbread
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With jalapenos- - [stacy] oh.
00:48:55.758 --> 00:48:56.959
- was my mom's chocolate chip cookie.
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- [stacy] man, i wish i had one right now.
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- [kirk] yeah, i do too. - [stacy] i didn't even
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Like a cookie without chocolate in it.
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- [kirk] yeah, i know.
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And hers have a special ingredient,
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I can't tell you what it is.
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- oh.
00:49:05.100 --> 00:49:06.435
- but if you forget it, unlike the cornbread,
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You forget the jalapenos, it's still good.
00:49:08.904 --> 00:49:10.439
But if you forget this special ingredient-
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- then it's not-
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- the cookies are not as good.
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- you know, the special ingredient-
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- i know. - and you're not gonna tell me
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What the special ingredient is?
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- well, if i told you now, everybody in the whole world
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Would know my mom's recipe.
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- okay, well,
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You tell me after. - and she's watching
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Right now too.
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- oh, oh, oh.
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- so i can't say it.
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- maybe i'll tell you during the commercial break.
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- okay.
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Yeah. - so if there's
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One thing you want people to take away from your book,
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Other than just good food, what would it be?
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- i think to show goodwill to other people,
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Just to think good of others.
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I mean, there's so much meanness
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And hatefulness in the world right now.
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- [kirk] yes.
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- and i think it would just be that.
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It would just be like, think good of them.
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Try to find something good in them.
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Even if you're across the board on everything,
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You don't agree with anything.
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But kindness, there's no replacement for being kind.
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I think that would probably be it.
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And hopefully that shows, you know, throughout the book.
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- well, i can't wait to try these.
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Thank you so much for (upbeat music)
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Coming on "takeaways", and-
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- i'm excited, this is great.
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I've had a great time.
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- yeah, thank you. me too.
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After the break, we'll review some of today's "takeaways".
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(upbeat music)
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I really enjoyed our time today with joel salatin
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And stacy lyn harris.
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It is so inspiring to see families who are getting back
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To the basics, connecting with god's creation
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And building strong homes.
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Here's a few of our takeaways.
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Stop running, start building.
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Joel saladin nailed it when he said, fear makes you run,
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Faith makes you stop.
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Don't build your life on panic or doomsday prepping.
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Build it on faith.
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The goal isn't just to survive,
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It's to disentangle from a system
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That doesn't have your best interest at heart.
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Whether it's a garden or just a mindset shift,
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Take steps this week to take back control.
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Step away from the screen.
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When you think about it, we are raising a generation
00:51:14.898 --> 00:51:17.233
That thinks they have the world at their fingertips
00:51:17.233 --> 00:51:20.537
Because of a touchscreen.
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Joel challenged us to get back
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To visceral participation in creation.
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Real life requires patience.
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You can't just swipe to make a tomato grow faster.
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So build character and humility in your life.
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Participate in the real physical world god created.
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Raise leaders, not loafers.
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Stacy lyn harris gave us the blueprint
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For raising capable kids.
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Work.
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She didn't view chores as a burden,
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But as a training ground for innovation
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And diligence.
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By giving them meaningful work,
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We aren't just keeping 'em busy,
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We're teaching them to be diligent and innovative
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And we're training them to obey the mandate
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In colossians 3:23.
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Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart
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As working for the lord.
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Hospitality is a weapon of kindness.
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In a culture filled with hatefulness,
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Stacy urged us to use hospitality to show goodwill.
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The dinner table is the place where we often solve problems
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But only if we remove the distractions.
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So make a rule in your house.
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Phones and baggage get left at the door.
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Use your table to look people in the eye
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And treat them with simple southern kindness.
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That's all for this episode of "takeaways".
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Thanks for watching.
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Joel Salatin & Stacy Lyn Harris: Choosing a Homesteading Lifestyle | Takeaways with Kirk Cameron

January 19, 2026 | 53:25

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