Tim Tebow: Embracing the Way God Sees Each of Us | Takeaways with Kirk Cameron

November 3, 2025 | 54:57

Kirk Cameron is joined by former NFL Quarterback Tim Tebow discussing how God sees every person as valuable and our calling to do the same and make a difference in the lives around us.

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  • Kirk cameron: when is the last time you saw a homeless person
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  • In your community and you found yourself looking away and not
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  • Making eye contact?
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  • Or maybe you ran across someone disabled or who needs special
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  • Attention and you felt inadequate to help.
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  • Did you know that we're all called to help the vulnerable,
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  • The poor, and those in crisis?
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  • My guest today, tim tebow, will share insights on how god sees
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  • Each and every one of us as valuable and worthy, and by
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  • Seeing others the same way, we can help make an impact on
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  • Helping those in need.
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  • Tim tebow: when we look at the life of of jesus, one of the
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  • Things that i'm so impacted by, over and over again, is his love
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  • For the most vulnerable but not that he just says it, but he
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  • Acts upon it.
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  • And the greatest form of love is not an emotion.
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  • It's a choice.
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  • Kirk: it's all next on "takeaways."
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  • Kirk: my guest today is a speaker, entrepreneur, and
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  • College football analyst for espn and the sec network.
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  • Prior to his current endeavors, tim tebow was an nfl
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  • Quarterback, a two-time college football national champion, and
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  • A college football hall of fame inductee.
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  • He's authored five "new york times" bestselling books, and
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  • His latest one is called "look again: recognize your worth,
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  • Renew your hope, run with confidence."
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  • Tim, thanks so much for coming on "takeaway."
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  • Tim: i appreciate it. great to see you.
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  • That was a good snap too, he got there, i like it.
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  • Kirk: you know, my kids taught me that.
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  • I blew it so many times.
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  • Tim: i love it. good for them.
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  • Kirk: i embarrassed them. they finally taught me.
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  • Tim: did all six of them teach you?
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  • Because that's a lot of practice.
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  • Kirk: especially my boys, and it depends on how old they are.
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  • So older people don't know the snap either.
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  • So i gotta go back to the other.
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  • Tim: i get it. i get it.
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  • Kirk: i'm so excited to have you here.
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  • Tim: thank you, man. thanks for having me.
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  • Kirk: i have so many people in my life who appreciate you, the
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  • Work that you do, the work that your family does, and are just
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  • So impressed with your consistency over the years, and
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  • You're just an inspiration to them.
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  • Tim: i appreciate it and i just am so grateful for you and the
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  • Impact that you've had for so many years and just staying in
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  • The fight for so many years and, growing up, getting a chance to
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  • Watch you and hear you and just grateful for you.
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  • So glad to be here.
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  • Kirk: thank you.
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  • Well, you've got a brand-new book out called "look again" and
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  • I love the perspective that you take in here at reexamining
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  • Yourself and other people the way that jesus does.
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  • What inspired you to write this book and why now?
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  • Tim: about 4 years ago i was at "a night to shine."
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  • It's a worldwide celebration for individuals with special needs
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  • And there's all these awesome cars that the kings and queens
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  • Would be in the back of and it's driving over the red carpet and
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  • All of the fans are standing there, cheering, and i'm
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  • Cheering and cheering, and losing my voice, i'm cheering
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  • So loud.
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  • And there's this young lady that has blonde hair and a red dress
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  • In a red convertible and the car drives by and i didn't even know
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  • That our foundation was working with all the churches to put
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  • Bumper stickers on the back of all the cars, but she drives by
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  • And with just the absolute most joy.
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  • And i just, i had so much joy from watching her and the car
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  • Drives by and on the back it says, "royalty on board."
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  • And i just get emotional and i started to think, "dang,
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  • That's it.
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  • That is it."
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  • And so it started us on a journey for about the last 4
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  • Years of studying what does it mean to be made
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  • In the image of god?
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  • Because, growing up, i hear all the time that it's rational,
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  • Relational, or functional.
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  • And so i thought, well, we're rational beings so that we can--
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  • You know, god has given us a brain so that we can strategize
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  • And that we can have rational thought or it's relational--that
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  • We're created for a relationship with god and for other people.
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  • And then functional--that he's called us to rule and reign and
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  • Subdue the earth.
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  • And i think all three of those are part of it but i so
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  • Convicted because i thought, what about 16% of the world's
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  • Population that have some form of special need?
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  • Are they less in the image of god because maybe they can't do
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  • That to the same extent and i believe that the heart of god is
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  • Absolutely no,
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  • That everyone is created on his--in his image on purpose
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  • And for a purpose, and there's nobody that is less than or
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  • More than.
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  • And so we started to really look at it and and talking with a lot
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  • Of ancient near east scholars and old testament scholars and
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  • Historians and going back and really looking at what does it
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  • Mean to be made in the image of god?
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  • And when you really look at it from the ancient near east
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  • Context, the image of god is a term that is for those that were
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  • Exalted as kings or monarchs, and so you look at an egyptian
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  • Pharaoh would be made in the image of ra, a god that they
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  • Believed in.
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  • An assyrian king would be made in the image of bael, a god that
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  • They believed in.
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  • So when you look at this term and when someone would have
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  • Picked up the bible and read genesis in the ancient near
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  • East, they would have been like, "oh my gosh, this is a term that
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  • Was used for the kings or monarchs," and they would have
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  • Seen it on statues but they would have seen it primarily
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  • Just used in that way but now they're saying the god of the
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  • Bible is saying this about all of humanity.
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  • It is a royal worth statement.
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  • It is god's heart for humanity.
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  • That's how we should see it, more than just rational,
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  • Relational, or functional.
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  • Are those pieces?
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  • Sure, i think they're pieces, but more so it is a worth
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  • Statement of the value that our god has for all people.
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  • Kirk: we're having church right here on the set of "takeaways."
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  • This is awesome and i think that sometimes within christian
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  • Circles, especially people who read their bible and they
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  • Appreciate theology, we wanna start with the depravity of man
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  • And we wanna say, you know, i'm nothing without god.
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  • However, in scriptures we also have to see that we were made in
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  • The image of god, like you're saying, and we have inherent
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  • Worth and dignity simply because we were made in the image of the
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  • One who created everything.
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  • So sin is real but so is the inherent dignity of the
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  • Human being.
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  • Tim: absolutely, and have we fallen short?
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  • There's no doubt.
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  • I fall short on a daily basis, but it doesn't mean that i'm
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  • Less in the image of god.
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  • It doesn't mean that my worth and my value to god are less.
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  • And then if we fast forward to the new testament and we look at
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  • The life of jesus and the love, the greatest love story rescue
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  • Mission of all time, which is the life of jesus, and that
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  • Jesus's life, death, burial, resurrection, and he offers us
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  • His free gift of eternal life-- that, when we accept it, that we
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  • Are forgiven, reconciled, redeemed, but also adopted into
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  • God's family.
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  • We are sons and daughters of the king.
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  • Therefore, what are we?
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  • Royalty, because we're sons and daughters of the king.
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  • So he creates us with this royal worth and then he reconciles
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  • Into us--us into his family when we accept him, as royalty.
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  • That's how we should see people, but in our society very often we
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  • Don't see people with the true worth and value we should.
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  • I know i've missed the mark so many times, and a lot of times
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  • In our society we see people as valuable when they do something
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  • That we believe is valuable to us.
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  • But if they don't do something valuable, then we--and we have
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  • To fight this lie that some lives matter less.
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  • Because human worth is fixed and we have to fight that lie and
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  • Embrace the truth that we are all made in god's image and we
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  • Are all loved, we are all treasured, we were all seen by
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  • God with this royal worth and value, and now we have to go
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  • Live that out to the world.
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  • Kirk: this is speaking to the need that every single one of us
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  • Has, whether we are famous and talented or beautiful or smart
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  • Or whether we don't really measure on those types of
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  • Scales, but we are valuable to god, we are made in his image,
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  • And we're gonna talk more about the way that jesus looked
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  • At people.
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  • And i can think of so many stories in the new testament
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  • Where he went up close personal, put his hands on people, called
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  • Them by name, and took care of them like they were royalty.
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  • I'm fascinated how you wrote this book down into
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  • Three sections.
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  • Can you explain those three sections and why?
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  • Tim: yes, recognize your worth, renew your hope, run
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  • With confidence.
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  • Recognize your worth: that when we recognize our worth, and it
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  • Starts with us, that i would actually not from a standpoint
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  • Of arrogance, from a standpoint of value and worth, that god
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  • Loves me this much, that he-- when i was born, i wasn't
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  • An accident,
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  • I'm not a happenstance,
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  • That i'm here on purpose and for a purpose.
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  • That gives me a worth and a value that i am loved.
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  • Yes, have i fallen short?
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  • Absolutely, but i'm still valued in love.
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  • And when it starts by looking at yourself in the value that god
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  • Sees you and then when you understand that, then i--when i
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  • See you, kirk, regardless of what we have in common or what
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  • We don't have in common, like or dislike, i see you with that
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  • Value, because that's the lens in which i'm seeing myself
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  • Through and so that's the lens i'm gonna see you.
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  • So it starts by recognizing your worth.
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  • That renews my hope.
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  • What does renew mean?
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  • It just means to flourish once more--that we would actually
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  • Flourish because we would find an anchor for our soul that is
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  • Firm and secure and we find that in the person of jesus.
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  • And then because we recognize our worth, it renews our hope,
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  • Now i can truly run with a confidence.
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  • I can run after the call that god has on my life, you can run
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  • After the call that god has on your life, and we can run after
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  • The people that we have been called to go care for.
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  • And i really don't believe that we can do that if we don't
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  • Recognize our worth or other people's worth--why would
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  • I run?
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  • Why would i exert the energy?
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  • You see, maybe one example is i'll give--kirk, if i lost a
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  • Penny and i said, "man, i lost a penny.
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  • I really have to find it.
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  • I can't find it.
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  • It's under the couch, it's under something," like, you would look
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  • At me and be like..."tebow, you're an idiot.
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  • You've lost it."
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  • But if my wife was here and she lost her diamond ring and i
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  • Said, "kirk, my wife lost her diamond ring," you would know
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  • Innately that it is valuable to her and a diamond ring is
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  • Valuable, so you would probably be kind enough to say, "hey, i'm
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  • Gonna stop and i'm gonna go look for it," right?
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  • Kirk: for sure.
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  • Tim: but in our society, how often do we treat people
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  • Like pennies
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  • Instead of more valuable than any diamond ring that has ever
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  • Been created or found?
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  • And see, if we see people as valuable and we know they're
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  • Innately valuable, we will treat them that way, but we don't
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  • Always see them that way.
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  • When we drive by someone on the side of the street that's
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  • Homeless, do we see them as valuable or do we just see them
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  • For maybe the mistakes that they've made or the hard times
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  • That they've hit?
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  • And we have to rethink because, as you said, jesus did stop and
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  • See people.
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  • And i love the scripture.
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  • I think it's maybe 67 times the bible tells us that jesus
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  • Sees people.
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  • You see, a lot of the society at that time, they saw people by
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  • Their sin.
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  • I can't help but be reminded of zacchaeus.
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  • The people saw him and called him by a sin, but jesus sees him
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  • In the tree and he calls him by his name, knowing that, hey,
  • 00:11:03.419 --> 00:11:07.456
  • You're gonna come down from that tree and just a few days later
  • 00:11:07.456 --> 00:11:10.359
  • I'm gonna go up a tree because you're so valuable to me.
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  • Kirk: tim, people look at you and then they look again and
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  • They see that's tim tebow.
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  • They're not looking at you because they think of your sin.
  • 00:11:18.934 --> 00:11:21.570
  • They look at you because they think of your success.
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  • How has writing "look again" helped you to look at yourself
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  • Differently over the years, and to look at yourself differently
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  • Than the way other people see you?
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  • Tim: well, i think there's been so many times that i have--i
  • 00:11:34.817 --> 00:11:39.355
  • Have lived in shame because i'm reminded by the enemy of my
  • 00:11:39.355 --> 00:11:43.893
  • Worst days, my worst thoughts, my worst actions.
  • 00:11:43.893 --> 00:11:45.961
  • I remember there's been times when a mom or dad would say to
  • 00:11:45.961 --> 00:11:48.898
  • Me, "hey, i just want you to know you're our son or you're
  • 00:11:48.898 --> 00:11:51.000
  • Our daughter's role model," and i would think, "no ma'am, no
  • 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:54.270
  • Sir, not if you knew me on my worst day, i wouldn't be their
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  • Role model."
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  • But then i also get to go back to scripture and remember that
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  • I'm no longer defined by my scars.
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  • I'm defined by his scars.
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  • And yes, i have messed up and i have fallen short, but i also
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  • Know that i've been covered by the blood of jesus and i have
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  • Been redeemed and i have been reconciled and i have been made
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  • Right with the father, right?
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  • And so now i'm no longer and our heavenly father doesn't call us
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  • By our sin.
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  • He calls us by our name and that we get to know that we are
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  • Adopted into his family when he sees us,
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  • That he sees us through the blood of jesus, of what he has
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  • Done for us and we have been reconciled.
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  • What does reconciliation mean?
  • 00:12:38.214 --> 00:12:40.049
  • It means to make enemies friends.
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  • Means to close the gap.
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  • It means to be made right again.
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  • You know, a lot of times we talk about salvation is just
  • 00:12:45.020 --> 00:12:47.389
  • Forgiveness and that's a part of it, but it's not
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  • Just forgiveness.
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  • That would be wiping the debt away.
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  • It's more than just that.
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  • It's more than just i got rid of your bad.
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  • No, but i'm also making you right.
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  • I'm bringing this together, reconciliation that you would be
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  • Friends again, that there would be no separation in
  • 00:13:03.172 --> 00:13:05.541
  • Your relationship.
  • 00:13:05.541 --> 00:13:06.876
  • It's more than just forgiveness.
  • 00:13:06.876 --> 00:13:08.244
  • Reconciliation is what we get through the blood of jesus.
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  • Kirk: we're gonna go away to a break and we're gonna come back
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  • And drill down deeper into this.
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  • This is wonderful.
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  • When we come back, we're gonna continue to talk with tim about
  • 00:13:18.754 --> 00:13:20.890
  • How god sees all of us as worthy and valuable and how that should
  • 00:13:20.890 --> 00:13:25.227
  • Change us to see every person we meet the same way.
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  • Stay with us.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Kirk: welcome back.
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  • We're talking to former nfl quarterback and bestselling
  • 00:13:43.457 --> 00:13:45.326
  • Author tim tebow about his new book, "look again."
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  • Tim, i love that in your book, you redefine mvp and you see it
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  • Differently now.
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  • What does it mean to you now?
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  • Tim: well, it's because god really had to do a lot in my
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  • Life to redefine it in my own heart first.
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  • I know a lot of my life i have chased trying to be my best and
  • 00:14:04.512 --> 00:14:09.216
  • Trying to win and championships and every now and then maybe win
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  • An mvp as most valuable player, but along the way, through a lot
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  • Of hurting and suffering people, god had to reframe it in my
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  • Heart and give me a more important mvp to chase and it
  • 00:14:20.361 --> 00:14:25.232
  • Wasn't the most valuable player, it was the most vulnerable
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  • People and i, multiple times, have been so convicted that god
  • 00:14:27.902 --> 00:14:32.640
  • Was pricking my heart, saying, but, timmy, which one is gonna
  • 00:14:32.640 --> 00:14:36.010
  • Mean more to you?
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  • Which one will you actually chase and run after more, with
  • 00:14:37.812 --> 00:14:41.182
  • More passion, with more urgency, with more dedication, with
  • 00:14:41.182 --> 00:14:44.018
  • More perseverance?
  • 00:14:44.018 --> 00:14:45.353
  • Which one will actually mean more to you?
  • 00:14:45.353 --> 00:14:47.488
  • Not which one will you say means more.
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  • Which ones where your actions prove mean more to you?
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  • Kirk: if we're to start focusing on the mvps around us, the most
  • 00:14:53.694 --> 00:14:59.433
  • Vulnerable people, what's the first step to start seeing
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  • People that way?
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  • Tim: the first step would be to see them through the lens of the
  • 00:15:04.605 --> 00:15:06.807
  • Cross, to see them through the lens of the bible, to see them
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  • Through the lens of genesis 1:5-9, that we are all made in
  • 00:15:09.076 --> 00:15:13.414
  • God's image and that when jesus went to the cross that it
  • 00:15:13.414 --> 00:15:16.584
  • Counted for every single person that we will ever see.
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  • And how do we know in our society how much something
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  • Is worth?
  • 00:15:25.493 --> 00:15:27.128
  • By what someone is willing to pay for it.
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  • That's how our--that's how economy works.
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  • That's how our society works.
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  • We know how much something costs by what someone is willing to
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  • Pay for it.
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  • So when we think about the life of jesus, as the son of god,
  • 00:15:37.304 --> 00:15:42.510
  • Who, i believe, as the son of god,
  • 00:15:42.510 --> 00:15:44.178
  • Has infinite value and worth.
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  • He's the son of god, he has infinite value and worth.
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  • Well, he was willing to give his life in exchange for yours and
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  • For mine.
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  • Therefore i believe that you and me and every single person has
  • 00:15:57.792 --> 00:16:02.496
  • Infinite value and worth.
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  • You see, when i see people that way, that's gonna change the way
  • 00:16:05.366 --> 00:16:09.003
  • That i go and treat them.
  • 00:16:09.003 --> 00:16:11.405
  • If i see people as that valuable to god and i see them suffering,
  • 00:16:11.405 --> 00:16:18.546
  • How could i walk away?
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  • How could i look past?
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  • How could i look over?
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  • When i see abandoned children, when i see hurting or traffic or
  • 00:16:23.818 --> 00:16:28.622
  • Exploited or those that are viewed as less than because they
  • 00:16:28.622 --> 00:16:32.293
  • Have a disability or special need, how could i look away?
  • 00:16:32.293 --> 00:16:35.796
  • But that's a lot of what we have in our society.
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  • We have 16% of the world's population has special needs.
  • 00:16:38.866 --> 00:16:41.569
  • A lot of them are treated as less than, insignificant, or
  • 00:16:41.569 --> 00:16:44.071
  • Cursed a lot of places around the world.
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  • You have 153 million orphaned or abandoned boys and girls around
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  • The world.
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  • You have over 700 million people that are malnourished around
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  • The world.
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  • You have more than 50 million people that are trapped in
  • 00:16:55.382 --> 00:16:56.851
  • Human trafficking.
  • 00:16:56.851 --> 00:16:59.687
  • How do we get to a place like that?
  • 00:16:59.687 --> 00:17:02.623
  • Well, it's because, as a whole, society, we have not seen every
  • 00:17:02.623 --> 00:17:06.794
  • Person as valuable.
  • 00:17:06.794 --> 00:17:08.395
  • So many times we have just seen those as valuable because of
  • 00:17:08.395 --> 00:17:12.500
  • What they do that is valuable to us.
  • 00:17:12.500 --> 00:17:15.302
  • But when we see them innately valuable, there will be
  • 00:17:15.302 --> 00:17:18.172
  • Something that stirs in us that we would know, no, i gotta stop
  • 00:17:18.172 --> 00:17:23.010
  • And i gotta go help, because i know how valuable they were to
  • 00:17:23.010 --> 00:17:25.813
  • God, that means they're gonna be valuable to me.
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  • Kirk: you're sounding so much like jesus, i've never heard
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  • I never--
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  • Tim: i don't know about that.
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  • Kirk: i don't mean that in the sense of being sinless.
  • 00:17:38.092 --> 00:17:40.327
  • I mean it in the sense of when i read the scriptures and i read
  • 00:17:40.327 --> 00:17:45.533
  • The stories of him meeting with the woman at the well, when i
  • 00:17:45.533 --> 00:17:49.036
  • Think of the man who was paralyzed and lying on the mat,
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  • The people who essentially were the vulnerable people in society
  • 00:17:53.040 --> 00:17:56.510
  • That other people didn't want to talk to or even touch if they
  • 00:17:56.510 --> 00:17:59.013
  • Were a leper, jesus went to them and he would just, right?
  • 00:17:59.013 --> 00:18:02.650
  • And i--
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  • Tim: well, if this is--if we wanna be like christ, let's look
  • 00:18:03.984 --> 00:18:06.587
  • At what he did.
  • 00:18:06.587 --> 00:18:08.055
  • Over 60% of jesus's publicly recorded miracles were for those
  • 00:18:08.055 --> 00:18:12.393
  • Who were afflicted.
  • 00:18:12.393 --> 00:18:13.727
  • In today's day and age that would be some form of special
  • 00:18:13.727 --> 00:18:17.164
  • Need or disability and over 70% of jesus's publicly recorded
  • 00:18:17.164 --> 00:18:21.535
  • Miracles were for those who we would consider the mvp, the most
  • 00:18:21.535 --> 00:18:25.005
  • Vulnerable people.
  • 00:18:25.005 --> 00:18:26.373
  • And then when you look at matthew 25 and it's echoed a lot
  • 00:18:26.373 --> 00:18:29.410
  • Of other places, but that's one of my favorite.
  • 00:18:29.410 --> 00:18:31.445
  • If you look at matthew 25 and jesus makes it not only
  • 00:18:31.445 --> 00:18:36.317
  • Imperative to us but he makes it personal to him where he said,
  • 00:18:36.317 --> 00:18:40.554
  • "whatever you have done to the least of these brothers and
  • 00:18:40.554 --> 00:18:44.358
  • Sisters of mine, you have done unto me."
  • 00:18:44.358 --> 00:18:48.395
  • Like, it's staggering.
  • 00:18:48.395 --> 00:18:50.130
  • A few years ago when i was really diving into that and i
  • 00:18:50.130 --> 00:18:52.800
  • Was just like, "what?"
  • 00:18:52.800 --> 00:18:54.468
  • Like, it becomes so personal to him that he makes himself the
  • 00:18:54.468 --> 00:19:00.107
  • Example--that how we treat the mvp is so personal to him that
  • 00:19:00.107 --> 00:19:06.180
  • He is saying, "that's how you're treating me."
  • 00:19:06.180 --> 00:19:08.849
  • So when we look past, when we look away, when we walk away,
  • 00:19:08.849 --> 00:19:12.720
  • When we don't care for him, it's personal to jesus and if it's
  • 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:15.823
  • Personal to him, it better be personal to us.
  • 00:19:15.823 --> 00:19:19.159
  • Kirk: tim, you say in your book that image matters but not in
  • 00:19:19.159 --> 00:19:22.796
  • The way you might think.
  • 00:19:22.796 --> 00:19:24.198
  • Unpack that for us.
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  • Tim: well, a lot of time our image is so important, our
  • 00:19:25.566 --> 00:19:28.269
  • Reputation, how people view us, how many fans we have on social
  • 00:19:28.269 --> 00:19:31.572
  • Media, do we--how many likes do we have?
  • 00:19:31.572 --> 00:19:33.440
  • How many--all of this.
  • 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:35.075
  • But a more important image is how does god see us?
  • 00:19:35.075 --> 00:19:38.045
  • How do we see ourselves and how are we gonna truly see
  • 00:19:38.045 --> 00:19:40.347
  • Other people?
  • 00:19:40.347 --> 00:19:41.715
  • Not are we gonna have the likes and the followers?
  • 00:19:41.715 --> 00:19:45.419
  • And i would share this: one of the things that i was staggered
  • 00:19:45.419 --> 00:19:47.955
  • By a few years ago when i saw this statistic, i saw that, in
  • 00:19:47.955 --> 00:19:51.692
  • One study, that 12% of our daily thoughts are spent in some form
  • 00:19:51.692 --> 00:19:56.263
  • Of comparison.
  • 00:19:56.263 --> 00:19:58.899
  • That's crazy.
  • 00:19:58.899 --> 00:20:01.068
  • Because if we're spending 12% of our daily thoughts in some form
  • 00:20:01.068 --> 00:20:04.305
  • Of comparison, then what's implied in that is that, "god, i
  • 00:20:04.305 --> 00:20:10.110
  • Wish i was like that person.
  • 00:20:10.110 --> 00:20:12.379
  • I wish i had that.
  • 00:20:12.379 --> 00:20:13.747
  • I wish i looked like her.
  • 00:20:13.747 --> 00:20:15.082
  • I wish i could play like him.
  • 00:20:15.082 --> 00:20:16.450
  • I wish i had that corner office, i had that thing."
  • 00:20:16.450 --> 00:20:18.986
  • And i don't believe that you can be in a mindset of comparison
  • 00:20:18.986 --> 00:20:23.324
  • And gratitude at the same time.
  • 00:20:23.324 --> 00:20:25.793
  • I think you can go back and forth, but when we're in a place
  • 00:20:25.793 --> 00:20:28.028
  • Of comparison, we're in a place of saying, "god, i'm not really
  • 00:20:28.028 --> 00:20:32.066
  • Content or grateful for where you have me, for who i am, for
  • 00:20:32.066 --> 00:20:35.135
  • Whose i am, for the things that you've blessed me with," like,
  • 00:20:35.135 --> 00:20:39.239
  • Because we're spending our time--by the way, when we
  • 00:20:39.239 --> 00:20:41.375
  • Compare ourselves to other people, especially on social
  • 00:20:41.375 --> 00:20:43.677
  • Media, you're comparing your real life to other people's fake
  • 00:20:43.677 --> 00:20:47.981
  • Best moment.
  • 00:20:47.981 --> 00:20:49.650
  • It's not real.
  • 00:20:49.650 --> 00:20:51.185
  • That's why they take so many photos in a row and then they
  • 00:20:51.185 --> 00:20:53.687
  • Have filters and then they edit it and they try to put the
  • 00:20:53.687 --> 00:20:56.323
  • Best one.
  • 00:20:56.323 --> 00:20:57.691
  • It's not real.
  • 00:20:57.691 --> 00:20:59.026
  • And we're comparing ourselves to other people's fake day.
  • 00:20:59.026 --> 00:21:00.394
  • And i just think that it leads to a place of desperation, of
  • 00:21:00.394 --> 00:21:05.899
  • Loneliness, and we have a loneliness epidemic at hand.
  • 00:21:05.899 --> 00:21:10.838
  • We are one of the loneliest generations ever, but we're
  • 00:21:10.838 --> 00:21:14.174
  • Surrounded by all this technology and by, so-called,
  • 00:21:14.174 --> 00:21:16.810
  • "all these people," but it's not real community.
  • 00:21:16.810 --> 00:21:19.980
  • It's not real fellowship.
  • 00:21:19.980 --> 00:21:21.982
  • It's not real relationship.
  • 00:21:21.982 --> 00:21:24.017
  • And we spend so much of our time just comparing ourselves to
  • 00:21:24.017 --> 00:21:27.254
  • Other people.
  • 00:21:27.254 --> 00:21:30.257
  • Kirk: tell us the story about trenton and the words "god
  • 00:21:30.257 --> 00:21:33.360
  • Is able."
  • 00:21:33.360 --> 00:21:34.695
  • Tim: oh man, it's just one of my favorite stories.
  • 00:21:34.695 --> 00:21:36.096
  • Trenton hill, he's an incredible young man.
  • 00:21:36.096 --> 00:21:38.465
  • He's part of our foundation family and trenton was in church
  • 00:21:38.465 --> 00:21:44.571
  • One day and they were sharing on judges and gideon, you know, "go
  • 00:21:44.571 --> 00:21:50.978
  • In the strength that you have.
  • 00:21:50.978 --> 00:21:52.346
  • Go in the strength that you have."
  • 00:21:52.346 --> 00:21:53.680
  • And trenton has cerebral palsy and he's thinking, "man, i
  • 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:56.316
  • Wanna go--" and the pastor's saying, "go in the strength that
  • 00:21:56.316 --> 00:21:58.585
  • You have, you know, go and impact the world.
  • 00:21:58.585 --> 00:22:00.554
  • Go and use what god's given you."
  • 00:22:00.554 --> 00:22:02.022
  • And he's thinking, "man, i wanna go.
  • 00:22:02.022 --> 00:22:04.158
  • I wanna go."
  • 00:22:04.158 --> 00:22:05.492
  • He's this amazing young man, but he's thinking, "but
  • 00:22:05.492 --> 00:22:07.194
  • I'm disabled.
  • 00:22:07.194 --> 00:22:08.529
  • I'm in a wheelchair."
  • 00:22:08.529 --> 00:22:09.897
  • And then he's sitting there and he's thinking, "well, what do
  • 00:22:09.897 --> 00:22:12.966
  • You get when you take the word 'go' and 'disable' and you put
  • 00:22:12.966 --> 00:22:18.505
  • Them together?
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  • 'god is able.'"
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  • And he's just one of the most remarkable young men that he
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  • Would take that and think--and be reminded of god's word and
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  • God's truth and god's promises.
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  • I know i'm disabled, but i also know that god is able.
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  • Kirk: what a great story, oh my goodness.
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  • You have so many great stories in here and you're making me
  • 00:22:37.958 --> 00:22:41.295
  • Think of joni eareckson tada.
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  • I'm thinking of helen keller.
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  • I'm thinking of all these people who have disabilities and then
  • 00:22:45.098 --> 00:22:49.937
  • God demonstrates his abilities through them that so far surpass
  • 00:22:49.937 --> 00:22:53.140
  • So many able-bodied people who can do so much great stuff and
  • 00:22:53.140 --> 00:22:57.311
  • They're just focused on what god's able to do on purpose
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  • Through them with purpose and they're impacting generations
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  • Of people.
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  • Tim: well, so many times we think, "well, god, you could do
  • 00:23:05.953 --> 00:23:07.554
  • More if i have this platform or if i'm in this place," and i'm
  • 00:23:07.554 --> 00:23:11.058
  • Reminded of the lad that scripture tells us, the boy who
  • 00:23:11.058 --> 00:23:14.661
  • Brings his loaves and his fish.
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  • And that miracle didn't come because he brought so much to
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  • The table.
  • 00:23:20.968 --> 00:23:22.336
  • That miracle came because he put what he had into the hands of
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  • The miracle maker.
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  • And we think all the time, "well, god, you could do more
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  • With me if i had this platform, if i was on this team, if i won
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  • This championship, if i had this many followers," and i really
  • 00:23:34.281 --> 00:23:37.951
  • Believe what god wants is a willingness to say, "hey, these
  • 00:23:37.951 --> 00:23:40.921
  • Are my loaves and my fish.
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  • Sometimes i feel like it's a lot.
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  • Sometimes i feel like it's a little.
  • 00:23:44.057 --> 00:23:45.859
  • Sometimes it's just crumbs to me, but god, would you just take
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  • It and use it?"
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  • I think god just wants a willing heart, and when we give what we
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  • Have to him, he can do what he wants.
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  • Kirk: the scriptures say that over and over and over--that the
  • 00:23:55.202 --> 00:23:59.206
  • Eyes of the lord are everywhere, he's searching to and fro, and
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  • He's looking to show himself strong on behalf of those whose
  • 00:24:01.508 --> 00:24:04.278
  • Hearts are fully surrendered to him.
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  • And often it's gonna be a nobody from nowhere with nothing to
  • 00:24:06.246 --> 00:24:10.717
  • Offer but a heart that is fully surrendered to him and that's
  • 00:24:10.717 --> 00:24:13.453
  • The guy that changes the world.
  • 00:24:13.453 --> 00:24:15.255
  • Tim: well, let's look at so much of scripture, right?
  • 00:24:15.255 --> 00:24:18.058
  • God used people that had all sorts of flaws and failures.
  • 00:24:18.058 --> 00:24:23.130
  • I'm so encouraged because i'm like, yes, i'm not disqualified.
  • 00:24:23.130 --> 00:24:26.300
  • You know, god can still use me in my shortcomings and failures
  • 00:24:26.300 --> 00:24:30.337
  • And flaws, because that's so much of scripture.
  • 00:24:30.337 --> 00:24:34.374
  • And it's so encouraging, and i think the more we get in god's
  • 00:24:34.374 --> 00:24:37.044
  • Word, the more we see that, we're more--the more we can be
  • 00:24:37.044 --> 00:24:39.346
  • Encouraged, like, oh awesome, god can still use me.
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  • Kirk: we'll be right back with tim tebow sharing stories of
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  • People that he's met along the way that made such a difference
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  • In the lives of those around him.
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  • Don't go away.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Kirk: we're back with my guest today, tim tebow, discussing
  • 00:25:06.506 --> 00:25:09.276
  • Ways that we can care for the vulnerable and those in crisis
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  • Just like jesus did throughout his ministry.
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  • Tim, let's go back and talk about jesus.
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  • I mean, he is the archetype.
  • 00:25:17.217 --> 00:25:19.686
  • He is our hero when it comes to dealing with crisis situations
  • 00:25:19.686 --> 00:25:25.626
  • And valuing people.
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  • What are some situations that we can learn from with regard to
  • 00:25:28.595 --> 00:25:31.798
  • Jesus going to the outcasts, the fringe, the dangerous, and
  • 00:25:31.798 --> 00:25:36.703
  • Loving them?
  • 00:25:36.703 --> 00:25:38.038
  • Tim: well, we can learn from every part of jesus, you know,
  • 00:25:38.038 --> 00:25:41.208
  • The author and perfecter of our faith.
  • 00:25:41.208 --> 00:25:43.477
  • And when we look at the life of of jesus, one of the things that
  • 00:25:43.477 --> 00:25:50.083
  • I'm so impacted by over and over again is his love for the most
  • 00:25:50.083 --> 00:25:54.087
  • Vulnerable, but not that he just says it, but he acts upon it.
  • 00:25:54.087 --> 00:25:57.924
  • And the greatest form of love is not an emotion, it's a choice,
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  • The agape form of love.
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  • And i believe the best definition for that is to choose
  • 00:26:02.562 --> 00:26:04.998
  • The best--to choose the best interests of another person and
  • 00:26:04.998 --> 00:26:08.001
  • Act on their behalf.
  • 00:26:08.001 --> 00:26:09.369
  • You see, when we as believers say that we love people, then we
  • 00:26:09.369 --> 00:26:13.607
  • Are going to choose their best interests and we're gonna act on
  • 00:26:13.607 --> 00:26:16.743
  • Their behalf.
  • 00:26:16.743 --> 00:26:18.078
  • It's not about, "oh, i love them and i'm gonna feel bad for them
  • 00:26:18.078 --> 00:26:20.113
  • Over here.
  • 00:26:20.113 --> 00:26:21.448
  • I'm gonna have sympathy or empathy."
  • 00:26:21.448 --> 00:26:22.816
  • No, i'm going to love them.
  • 00:26:22.816 --> 00:26:24.151
  • I'm gonna choose their best interests and share the good
  • 00:26:24.151 --> 00:26:26.386
  • News of the gospel.
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  • I'm gonna choose their best interests and i'm gonna care
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  • For them.
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  • I'm gonna choose their best interests and find help, to get
  • 00:26:30.624 --> 00:26:32.092
  • Help, to rally people for them.
  • 00:26:32.092 --> 00:26:33.860
  • And we look at the life of jesus, that's what he did
  • 00:26:33.860 --> 00:26:36.730
  • Because it wasn't about just an emotion or a feeling.
  • 00:26:36.730 --> 00:26:41.201
  • Twelve times in the new testament, i believe it uses the
  • 00:26:41.201 --> 00:26:43.637
  • Word "compassion," and eight times it's used to talk
  • 00:26:43.637 --> 00:26:45.939
  • About jesus.
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  • Compassion in our society, we mix it all the time with
  • 00:26:47.274 --> 00:26:49.543
  • Sympathy and empathy.
  • 00:26:49.543 --> 00:26:50.877
  • They're not the same.
  • 00:26:50.877 --> 00:26:52.245
  • For the greek it's the word "splagchnizomai" from--
  • 00:26:52.245 --> 00:26:54.648
  • For compassion.
  • 00:26:54.648 --> 00:26:56.016
  • It means to be moved from your most inward parts.
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  • It is not comfortable.
  • 00:26:58.051 --> 00:26:59.653
  • But over and over again it would say, "jesus saw them, had
  • 00:26:59.653 --> 00:27:02.856
  • Compassion for them," moved from his most inward parts, "and he
  • 00:27:02.856 --> 00:27:06.460
  • Met their needs."
  • 00:27:06.460 --> 00:27:07.828
  • Like, we look at the man with leprosy that is lying face down
  • 00:27:07.828 --> 00:27:12.466
  • On the ground and he's yelling out to jesus, "lord, if you are
  • 00:27:12.466 --> 00:27:16.036
  • Willing, make me clean."
  • 00:27:16.036 --> 00:27:17.738
  • And jesus walks across and my guess is it's in front of a
  • 00:27:17.738 --> 00:27:21.274
  • Whole lot of people and my guess is also that there's a whole lot
  • 00:27:21.274 --> 00:27:25.212
  • Of people that are saying, "jesus, what are you doing?
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  • Don't you know that you can't have anything to do with those
  • 00:27:27.447 --> 00:27:29.850
  • Of leprosy, you know that you would have to stay at least 6
  • 00:27:29.850 --> 00:27:32.886
  • Feet away," this was far before covid, okay?
  • 00:27:32.886 --> 00:27:34.755
  • You'd have to stay 6 feet away and if it was a windy day, you
  • 00:27:34.755 --> 00:27:37.524
  • Would have to be more than 100 feet away from someone with
  • 00:27:37.524 --> 00:27:39.726
  • Leprosy, and if they got close to you, they would always have
  • 00:27:39.726 --> 00:27:42.195
  • To say, "leprosy, leprosy, leprosy" or "unclean,
  • 00:27:42.195 --> 00:27:44.498
  • Unclean, unclean."
  • 00:27:44.498 --> 00:27:45.832
  • But yeah, jesus is walking to him and i can only imagine that
  • 00:27:45.832 --> 00:27:48.135
  • There are people like, "jesus, what are you doing?
  • 00:27:48.135 --> 00:27:50.871
  • Stay away.
  • 00:27:50.871 --> 00:27:52.205
  • Why would you--why would you be going to him?"
  • 00:27:52.205 --> 00:27:53.940
  • And he's covering the ground and he walks over and he puts his
  • 00:27:53.940 --> 00:27:57.344
  • Hand on, he says, "i am willing.
  • 00:27:57.344 --> 00:28:01.481
  • Be clean," and immediately, the bible says, the leprosy
  • 00:28:01.481 --> 00:28:04.217
  • Left him.
  • 00:28:04.217 --> 00:28:05.585
  • And i just--i love that story so much because you can only
  • 00:28:05.585 --> 00:28:09.856
  • Imagine what culture was saying at that time and the words
  • 00:28:09.856 --> 00:28:14.127
  • People were saying, how countercultural jesus was that
  • 00:28:14.127 --> 00:28:18.431
  • He didn't just say and he could have just said, "yeah,
  • 00:28:18.431 --> 00:28:21.501
  • Be clean."
  • 00:28:21.501 --> 00:28:23.537
  • But he walked over to him, and my guess is he probably
  • 00:28:23.537 --> 00:28:27.440
  • Bent over.
  • 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:29.543
  • And he puts his hand on him and he shows him how much he matters
  • 00:28:29.543 --> 00:28:33.446
  • To him by, in front of all these people, doing something so
  • 00:28:33.446 --> 00:28:36.750
  • Countercultural that everybody else would be--that view him as
  • 00:28:36.750 --> 00:28:40.287
  • Less than, as insignificant, but he wasn't to jesus.
  • 00:28:40.287 --> 00:28:43.623
  • He made such a statement to him and to everybody, "no, i want
  • 00:28:43.623 --> 00:28:47.027
  • You to know how valuable you are to me.
  • 00:28:47.027 --> 00:28:48.995
  • I know in this society you're not viewed as valuable, but you
  • 00:28:48.995 --> 00:28:52.098
  • Are to me," and he bends over and he said, "yeah, i'm willing.
  • 00:28:52.098 --> 00:28:56.169
  • Be clean."
  • 00:28:56.169 --> 00:28:57.537
  • And immediately, leprosy leaves him.
  • 00:28:57.537 --> 00:28:59.773
  • That's, in my opinion, what we are called to do.
  • 00:28:59.773 --> 00:29:02.776
  • We are called to close the ground, not just sit from afar
  • 00:29:02.776 --> 00:29:06.279
  • And be like, "oh man, i--i'm gonna pray for you."
  • 00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:10.217
  • No, and i love prayer.
  • 00:29:10.217 --> 00:29:11.751
  • Prayer is so powerful and it is so important, but one of my
  • 00:29:11.751 --> 00:29:14.988
  • Favorite examples of how i believe we should live is--it's
  • 00:29:14.988 --> 00:29:20.193
  • From the movie, "hacksaw ridge."
  • 00:29:20.193 --> 00:29:21.528
  • You ever see that movie about desmond doss, "hacksaw ridge,"
  • 00:29:21.528 --> 00:29:25.432
  • And i believe it was the battle of okinawa, and you know, he was
  • 00:29:25.432 --> 00:29:29.469
  • Convicted not to carry a gun, not shoot people, but he's, you
  • 00:29:29.469 --> 00:29:32.472
  • Know, he still wants to help and so while he sees all of his
  • 00:29:32.472 --> 00:29:35.842
  • Fellow soldiers that are getting wounded and hurt, he starts to
  • 00:29:35.842 --> 00:29:39.045
  • Pray, "lord, please help me get one more."
  • 00:29:39.045 --> 00:29:43.350
  • And he would go and crawl while he's praying, "lord, please help
  • 00:29:43.350 --> 00:29:46.553
  • Me get one more," and he goes and he carries someone and
  • 00:29:46.553 --> 00:29:49.289
  • Crawls back and he goes and gets another one.
  • 00:29:49.289 --> 00:29:51.558
  • You see, why i love that picture is because in our society we
  • 00:29:51.558 --> 00:29:55.528
  • Either crawl or we pray, but he's doing both.
  • 00:29:55.528 --> 00:29:59.799
  • It's faith in action that i'm gonna crawl and say, "lord,
  • 00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:02.769
  • Please help me get one more."
  • 00:30:02.769 --> 00:30:04.137
  • But a lot of times we just sit here and we're like, you know,
  • 00:30:04.137 --> 00:30:06.039
  • "i'm just gonna pray that god shows up and helps all of
  • 00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:08.241
  • These people."
  • 00:30:08.241 --> 00:30:09.576
  • Yeah, you know how--one way he wants to do that?
  • 00:30:09.576 --> 00:30:12.445
  • Through you.
  • 00:30:12.445 --> 00:30:14.247
  • So why don't you start crawling to the mvps, to the most
  • 00:30:14.247 --> 00:30:16.883
  • Vulnerable, to the suffering?
  • 00:30:16.883 --> 00:30:18.585
  • Because that's what we're called to do.
  • 00:30:18.585 --> 00:30:20.854
  • And so why don't we pray while we're doing it.
  • 00:30:20.854 --> 00:30:22.622
  • Why don't we say, "god, open the door because i'm gonna run
  • 00:30:22.622 --> 00:30:25.558
  • Through it and i'm gonna go to them and i'm gonna go care
  • 00:30:25.558 --> 00:30:27.961
  • For them."
  • 00:30:27.961 --> 00:30:29.296
  • Why don't we start doing what he did and say, "lord, please help
  • 00:30:29.296 --> 00:30:31.631
  • Me get one more," while i'm actually putting that faith in
  • 00:30:31.631 --> 00:30:34.034
  • Action and i'm moving towards them like jesus did for the man
  • 00:30:34.034 --> 00:30:36.569
  • With leprosy.
  • 00:30:36.569 --> 00:30:39.906
  • Kirk: tim, you tell a story about ethan hallmark and why
  • 00:30:39.906 --> 00:30:44.244
  • He's so important for us to understand how we ought to
  • 00:30:44.244 --> 00:30:47.480
  • Respond to people.
  • 00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:48.815
  • Could you tell that?
  • 00:30:48.815 --> 00:30:50.183
  • Tim: yeah, because that's exactly--everything we're just
  • 00:30:50.183 --> 00:30:51.518
  • Talking about is exactly what ethan did.
  • 00:30:51.518 --> 00:30:52.886
  • Ethan was a young man that impacted my life so greatly.
  • 00:30:52.886 --> 00:30:56.022
  • He is a part of our foundation and our wish family and for
  • 00:30:56.022 --> 00:31:03.029
  • Ethan's official wish with make a wish, his dream was to go to
  • 00:31:03.029 --> 00:31:07.667
  • Maui and it was to be able to see the sunrise, see the sunset,
  • 00:31:07.667 --> 00:31:11.137
  • And be able to go fish during this time, and so, you know,
  • 00:31:11.137 --> 00:31:14.274
  • He's granted his official wish and he's in the middle of the
  • 00:31:14.274 --> 00:31:19.245
  • Wish that was for him when everything was being made
  • 00:31:19.245 --> 00:31:23.049
  • About him.
  • 00:31:23.049 --> 00:31:24.718
  • And he sees a young man that's hurting and he leaves this whole
  • 00:31:24.718 --> 00:31:30.156
  • Thing that's built for him and he walks over and he talks to
  • 00:31:30.156 --> 00:31:33.360
  • This young man because he sees there's something in him that
  • 00:31:33.360 --> 00:31:36.296
  • Is hurting.
  • 00:31:36.296 --> 00:31:38.264
  • And he goes back to his family and they're just, you know,
  • 00:31:38.264 --> 00:31:40.700
  • Don't really know what's going on and the kind of the
  • 00:31:40.700 --> 00:31:43.036
  • Whole--anything.
  • 00:31:43.036 --> 00:31:44.371
  • He doesn't say much about it.
  • 00:31:44.371 --> 00:31:45.705
  • He just goes and talks to this man for a few moments and then
  • 00:31:45.705 --> 00:31:47.574
  • He comes back and he gets to experience his wish.
  • 00:31:47.574 --> 00:31:50.510
  • And years later--i think it was about 10 years later--
  • 00:31:50.510 --> 00:31:56.916
  • Make a wish was trying to get in touch with the hallmark family.
  • 00:31:56.916 --> 00:32:02.088
  • They finally did, and they said, "hey, there's this young man
  • 00:32:02.088 --> 00:32:06.092
  • That during ethan's wish, he talked to and that man really
  • 00:32:06.092 --> 00:32:11.231
  • Wants to get a hold of y'all.
  • 00:32:11.231 --> 00:32:13.066
  • Is it okay?"
  • 00:32:13.066 --> 00:32:14.434
  • They said yes.
  • 00:32:14.434 --> 00:32:15.769
  • So they connected this man and he got in touch with
  • 00:32:15.769 --> 00:32:18.605
  • Mrs. hallmark and he said, "mrs. hallmark,
  • 00:32:18.605 --> 00:32:21.808
  • You don't know me but during ethan's wish, i was the
  • 00:32:21.808 --> 00:32:26.012
  • Young man that he came and talked to.
  • 00:32:26.012 --> 00:32:28.515
  • And i want you to know that, at that time, i was a
  • 00:32:28.515 --> 00:32:32.285
  • Raging alcoholic.
  • 00:32:32.285 --> 00:32:34.354
  • I didn't have hope, but i want you to know, since ethan came
  • 00:32:34.354 --> 00:32:38.792
  • Over and talked to me, and the kindness and the courage and the
  • 00:32:38.792 --> 00:32:42.095
  • Boldness and the love and the faith that he shared with me,
  • 00:32:42.095 --> 00:32:45.331
  • Since that day, i have not had another drop of alcohol and i've
  • 00:32:45.331 --> 00:32:49.736
  • Also said yes to jesus."
  • 00:32:49.736 --> 00:32:53.640
  • And it's--that's what ethan did.
  • 00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:57.143
  • He was a young man that was fighting cancer.
  • 00:32:57.143 --> 00:33:01.181
  • Didn't live a whole lot longer than that after his wish.
  • 00:33:01.181 --> 00:33:04.150
  • He passed away a little bit later, and i just can only
  • 00:33:04.150 --> 00:33:07.153
  • Imagine his reception in heaven was pretty special because the
  • 00:33:07.153 --> 00:33:10.490
  • Way he lived and, actually, in our tv room, one of my favorite
  • 00:33:10.490 --> 00:33:14.094
  • Quotes is from ethan.
  • 00:33:14.094 --> 00:33:15.595
  • He said, "it doesn't matter if you live to be 1 or 100.
  • 00:33:15.595 --> 00:33:18.331
  • What matters is what you did for christ."
  • 00:33:18.331 --> 00:33:20.834
  • That's who ethan hallmark was.
  • 00:33:20.834 --> 00:33:23.603
  • Kirk: why do you suppose so many of us stay stuck looking at
  • 00:33:23.603 --> 00:33:29.409
  • People the same old way and we're afraid to reach out and
  • 00:33:29.409 --> 00:33:33.613
  • Talk to people or help those who are less fortunate than us?
  • 00:33:33.613 --> 00:33:37.851
  • Tim: because we look through a faulty lens.
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  • I've looked through a faulty lens so much of my life.
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  • I'm also color blind, by the way, and so i literally have
  • 00:33:46.226 --> 00:33:48.895
  • Faulty lenses, but i saw a story a few years ago someone sent to
  • 00:33:48.895 --> 00:33:53.666
  • Me of a man for his birthday, i think he's probably in his 60s,
  • 00:33:53.666 --> 00:33:57.971
  • And his family got him glasses that would help him to see
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  • Colors better and they give him these glasses and he's like,
  • 00:34:01.374 --> 00:34:04.978
  • "what am i doing?"
  • 00:34:04.978 --> 00:34:06.346
  • And he puts on these glasses.
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  • And his reaction to being able to see color so much better, he
  • 00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:12.519
  • Literally gets so emotional and he starts to tear up and he sees
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  • And he turns and he looks over here and he sees, like, i think
  • 00:34:16.656 --> 00:34:20.026
  • It was woods and he looks over here and he sees all these
  • 00:34:20.026 --> 00:34:22.562
  • Colors and he looks at the sky and he's seeing--and he starts
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  • Weeping and he's so happy and these tears of joy and i was
  • 00:34:25.365 --> 00:34:29.335
  • Watching that and i was like, that's how we should see people
  • 00:34:29.335 --> 00:34:35.141
  • If we saw them through the lens of the cross.
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  • We would see people and we would say, "oh, kirk, i'm so glad to
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  • See you.
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  • I see an image being of my creator.
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  • Man, it's so good to see you."
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  • Like, we see people that are suffering and we see their true
  • 00:34:49.622 --> 00:34:51.824
  • Worth and value, and we see them suffering, we see royalty
  • 00:34:51.824 --> 00:34:54.727
  • In rubble.
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  • Guess what we do?
  • 00:34:56.095 --> 00:34:57.430
  • We go care for them.
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  • We go help them in that situation.
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  • We should have that same reaction that he had to putting
  • 00:35:00.600 --> 00:35:03.670
  • On those glasses that help him see colors, because we would
  • 00:35:03.670 --> 00:35:06.606
  • See people through the lens of the cross and it would
  • 00:35:06.606 --> 00:35:08.841
  • Change everything.
  • 00:35:08.841 --> 00:35:11.044
  • Kirk: man, this is a life-changing book.
  • 00:35:11.044 --> 00:35:14.447
  • I'm so excited that we get to talk about this and for
  • 00:35:14.447 --> 00:35:16.783
  • Everybody to get to read this now that it's out.
  • 00:35:16.783 --> 00:35:20.186
  • In the last section of the book, you say that rest is biblical.
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  • That's good.
  • 00:35:24.324 --> 00:35:25.692
  • I like rest, but so is running.
  • 00:35:25.692 --> 00:35:27.026
  • Unpack that for us.
  • 00:35:27.026 --> 00:35:28.394
  • Tim: oh man, this is something i've wrestled with a lot in
  • 00:35:28.394 --> 00:35:32.932
  • My life.
  • 00:35:32.932 --> 00:35:35.802
  • I love church.
  • 00:35:35.802 --> 00:35:37.170
  • I love the big c church.
  • 00:35:37.170 --> 00:35:38.504
  • I love my home church.
  • 00:35:38.504 --> 00:35:39.872
  • I love church.
  • 00:35:39.872 --> 00:35:41.207
  • But so much of the time in church as we talk about rest--
  • 00:35:41.207 --> 00:35:44.277
  • As we should, it is biblical.
  • 00:35:44.277 --> 00:35:46.312
  • But i also don't necessarily believe that rest is that we
  • 00:35:46.312 --> 00:35:50.416
  • Should just kick our feet up and watch football all
  • 00:35:50.416 --> 00:35:52.885
  • Sunday, right?
  • 00:35:52.885 --> 00:35:54.254
  • That's not really, i think, what the bible had in mind for
  • 00:35:54.254 --> 00:35:56.522
  • The sabbath.
  • 00:35:56.522 --> 00:35:57.857
  • I actually think it's resting with jesus in jesus, and being
  • 00:35:57.857 --> 00:36:01.361
  • Able to spend time with him and with our family and being able
  • 00:36:01.361 --> 00:36:04.697
  • To point to jesus and have a focal point of our rest.
  • 00:36:04.697 --> 00:36:08.067
  • And so i do, i'm not trying to downplay rest.
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  • I think it is important.
  • 00:36:10.737 --> 00:36:12.505
  • I know it is important.
  • 00:36:12.505 --> 00:36:14.607
  • But at the same time, so is running.
  • 00:36:14.607 --> 00:36:19.946
  • Running is such an emphasis in the new testament, it's such an
  • 00:36:19.946 --> 00:36:22.915
  • Emphasis with paul, and paul uses the example of athletes all
  • 00:36:22.915 --> 00:36:27.854
  • The time and we just don't hear it shared a lot--that we would
  • 00:36:27.854 --> 00:36:34.394
  • Actually run after the call of god in our lives, that we would
  • 00:36:34.394 --> 00:36:38.431
  • Run after those that have never heard the gospel, that we would
  • 00:36:38.431 --> 00:36:41.334
  • Run after those that are suffering.
  • 00:36:41.334 --> 00:36:44.437
  • I feel like i've spent a lot of my life as a believer, jogging.
  • 00:36:44.437 --> 00:36:51.077
  • Not running.
  • 00:36:51.077 --> 00:36:52.412
  • See, the word that's used in scripture is the word "trejo,"
  • 00:36:52.412 --> 00:36:54.747
  • And it means to advance speedily like an athlete moving forward
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  • With full effort and a directed purpose.
  • 00:36:58.017 --> 00:37:00.219
  • How often are we moving forward when god's calling us to
  • 00:37:00.219 --> 00:37:03.189
  • Something with full effort and a directed purpose?
  • 00:37:03.189 --> 00:37:05.558
  • I can tell you, for me in sports, i was moving forward
  • 00:37:05.558 --> 00:37:09.195
  • With a full effort and a directed purpose.
  • 00:37:09.195 --> 00:37:11.964
  • Maybe was okay sometimes and maybe not as good sometimes.
  • 00:37:11.964 --> 00:37:14.934
  • It's not about how good i was, but man, i was trying hard.
  • 00:37:14.934 --> 00:37:17.603
  • Man, i was willing to play with broken bones.
  • 00:37:17.603 --> 00:37:19.238
  • I was willing to just blood, sweat, and tears.
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  • I was willing to give up vacations.
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  • I was willing to put in time, strategy, focus, effort.
  • 00:37:23.543 --> 00:37:26.579
  • I was willing to embrace the grind.
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  • For what?
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  • And i'm not saying it's--i think anything we do, we should
  • 00:37:31.718 --> 00:37:34.320
  • Try hard with it.
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  • Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your mind.
  • 00:37:35.655 --> 00:37:37.256
  • I'm not saying that that is bad, but what i am saying is if i was
  • 00:37:37.256 --> 00:37:40.159
  • Doing--willing to do all of that for a game, what should i
  • 00:37:40.159 --> 00:37:45.665
  • Be willing to do for the cause of christ, for suffering people?
  • 00:37:45.665 --> 00:37:51.170
  • And i would say one of the most disappointing things about my
  • 00:37:51.170 --> 00:37:53.506
  • Life is that my greatest effort has been for a game.
  • 00:37:53.506 --> 00:37:57.643
  • But hopefully, if we could have a conversation at the end of my
  • 00:37:57.643 --> 00:38:00.346
  • Life or in heaven looking back, i could say, "no, kirk, it
  • 00:38:00.346 --> 00:38:02.882
  • Started for a game, but it ended for the cause of christ"--
  • 00:38:02.882 --> 00:38:06.386
  • That we would actually run, that we wouldn't walk, we wouldn't
  • 00:38:06.386 --> 00:38:09.422
  • Jog, we wouldn't meander.
  • 00:38:09.422 --> 00:38:10.790
  • But we would run after what god has called us to
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  • And, man, i don't-- it might be hard.
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  • It will be hard.
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  • We will have troubles and trials.
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  • We will have tribulation.
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  • That's also promised, but i also believe it will be totally
  • 00:38:20.500 --> 00:38:23.936
  • Worth it.
  • 00:38:23.936 --> 00:38:25.271
  • Totally worth it.
  • 00:38:25.271 --> 00:38:26.672
  • And i just would encourage and challenge all of the listeners:
  • 00:38:26.672 --> 00:38:31.644
  • What will your greatest effort be for?
  • 00:38:31.644 --> 00:38:34.080
  • And will that thing be worth it?
  • 00:38:34.080 --> 00:38:35.948
  • And if it's the cause of christ, if it's a calling god has for
  • 00:38:35.948 --> 00:38:38.818
  • You, it'll be worth it.
  • 00:38:38.818 --> 00:38:44.023
  • Kirk: after the break, tim will share more about the work that
  • 00:38:44.023 --> 00:38:46.692
  • They do at his foundation and what we can do to have an impact
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  • In our own communities.
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  • Stay with us.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Kirk: we're back.
  • 00:39:05.245 --> 00:39:06.580
  • Tim tebow is my guest today, and we're talking about his latest
  • 00:39:06.580 --> 00:39:08.282
  • Book called, "look again: recognize your worth, renew your
  • 00:39:08.282 --> 00:39:12.319
  • Hope, run with confidence."
  • 00:39:12.319 --> 00:39:15.088
  • Tim, this book is amazing.
  • 00:39:15.088 --> 00:39:16.723
  • I mean, i needed this conversation and i can't wait
  • 00:39:16.723 --> 00:39:20.194
  • For people to read this and look again at their whole life.
  • 00:39:20.194 --> 00:39:24.431
  • I wanna talk about your foundation.
  • 00:39:24.431 --> 00:39:26.200
  • Tell us what it's all about.
  • 00:39:26.200 --> 00:39:28.368
  • Tim: well, our mission statement is to bring faith, hope, and
  • 00:39:28.368 --> 00:39:31.038
  • Love to those needing a brighter day in their darkest hour of
  • 00:39:31.038 --> 00:39:33.474
  • Need, but to really sum it up is to fight for people that can't
  • 00:39:33.474 --> 00:39:36.076
  • Fight for themselves and to go to the darkest places and bring
  • 00:39:36.076 --> 00:39:39.746
  • The light and the hope of jesus and to go to conflict,
  • 00:39:39.746 --> 00:39:43.050
  • Crisis, chaos.
  • 00:39:43.050 --> 00:39:44.918
  • We're fortunate to serve in just over 115 countries around the
  • 00:39:44.918 --> 00:39:47.988
  • World and our heart is to be able to fight for those that are
  • 00:39:47.988 --> 00:39:51.992
  • Being trafficked or exploited, to be able to care for those
  • 00:39:51.992 --> 00:39:54.495
  • That are being overlooked or have special needs or those with
  • 00:39:54.495 --> 00:39:57.064
  • Profound medical needs or those that are orphaned and don't have
  • 00:39:57.064 --> 00:40:01.134
  • A family and to be able to bring that faith, hope, and love
  • 00:40:01.134 --> 00:40:04.605
  • For them.
  • 00:40:04.605 --> 00:40:05.973
  • And it is really to be able to care for the mvp, the most
  • 00:40:05.973 --> 00:40:08.108
  • Vulnerable people, and we want to do that any and every way
  • 00:40:08.108 --> 00:40:11.478
  • Possible, especially those in their darkest hour of need, is
  • 00:40:11.478 --> 00:40:16.383
  • The real area that god has put on our heart and asked us to
  • 00:40:16.383 --> 00:40:19.720
  • Run after.
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  • Kirk: this is where the rubber meets the road.
  • 00:40:22.356 --> 00:40:23.690
  • I mean, you're putting your money, your time, your effort,
  • 00:40:23.690 --> 00:40:29.096
  • Where your mouth is, and you're actually doing these things in
  • 00:40:29.096 --> 00:40:31.698
  • 115 countries around the world, serving the most
  • 00:40:31.698 --> 00:40:34.468
  • Vulnerable people.
  • 00:40:34.468 --> 00:40:35.969
  • What are some of the practical ways that your foundation is
  • 00:40:35.969 --> 00:40:38.705
  • Helping people who are being trafficked and impoverished
  • 00:40:38.705 --> 00:40:41.174
  • And marginalized?
  • 00:40:41.174 --> 00:40:42.509
  • Tim: well, we have teams every day that work with law
  • 00:40:42.509 --> 00:40:44.478
  • Enforcement to be able to safeguard and bring as many of
  • 00:40:44.478 --> 00:40:47.047
  • Those that are being trafficked to a place of healing.
  • 00:40:47.047 --> 00:40:49.883
  • We have over 50 safe homes and 20 more in progress where you
  • 00:40:49.883 --> 00:40:53.987
  • Get the care, and bring long-term restoration and
  • 00:40:53.987 --> 00:40:57.090
  • Healing to those that have gone through a living hell on earth.
  • 00:40:57.090 --> 00:41:03.630
  • We're fortunate with our partners to have four hospitals
  • 00:41:03.630 --> 00:41:06.767
  • Around the world, to have orphanages in a bunch of
  • 00:41:06.767 --> 00:41:09.670
  • Different countries, to be able to, in any and every way,
  • 00:41:09.670 --> 00:41:13.140
  • Leverage whatever god has given us for the sake of the mvp.
  • 00:41:13.140 --> 00:41:17.544
  • And what does leverage mean?
  • 00:41:17.544 --> 00:41:18.912
  • It just means to take what you have and put it on the table for
  • 00:41:18.912 --> 00:41:21.248
  • Something new and better.
  • 00:41:21.248 --> 00:41:22.583
  • And for us, that new and better is for someone to experience
  • 00:41:22.583 --> 00:41:25.686
  • Hope, for someone to flourish once more, someone to understand
  • 00:41:25.686 --> 00:41:29.122
  • What a family really looks like, to understand what love really
  • 00:41:29.122 --> 00:41:31.858
  • Looks like.
  • 00:41:31.858 --> 00:41:33.193
  • You know, there was, quite a few years back, i was in a location
  • 00:41:33.193 --> 00:41:39.666
  • Where, a country, where faith isn't really allowed and we have
  • 00:41:39.666 --> 00:41:43.203
  • Been able to bring a lot of kids out of terrible places of evil
  • 00:41:43.203 --> 00:41:47.240
  • And the first little girl that i saw, she didn't make enough
  • 00:41:47.240 --> 00:41:51.678
  • Money one day and her mom boiled out her eye.
  • 00:41:51.678 --> 00:41:54.715
  • And the next little girl that i got introduced to was a girl
  • 00:41:54.715 --> 00:42:00.787
  • That had been sold by her family.
  • 00:42:00.787 --> 00:42:03.290
  • Another one was her dad was the first one to rape her, and i was
  • 00:42:03.290 --> 00:42:07.928
  • So--in such a, i don't know, such a place of not--kirk, what
  • 00:42:07.928 --> 00:42:16.903
  • Do you say to a little boy or girl about what a heavenly
  • 00:42:16.903 --> 00:42:22.476
  • Father is like when their idea of a father is just the first
  • 00:42:22.476 --> 00:42:25.746
  • Person that raped them?
  • 00:42:25.746 --> 00:42:27.848
  • What do you say to a little girl when the idea of love is--
  • 00:42:27.848 --> 00:42:34.821
  • Really, just looks like betrayal or exploitation?
  • 00:42:34.821 --> 00:42:38.959
  • How do you even start this?
  • 00:42:38.959 --> 00:42:41.528
  • And do you know how i believe it starts?
  • 00:42:41.528 --> 00:42:43.797
  • By showing up again and again and again and trying to earn
  • 00:42:43.797 --> 00:42:48.468
  • That trust--that we love you and we want something for you.
  • 00:42:48.468 --> 00:42:52.105
  • We want nothing from you and what we want for you is to be
  • 00:42:52.105 --> 00:42:56.076
  • Able to flourish.
  • 00:42:56.076 --> 00:42:57.444
  • What we want for you is for you to know your real worth and your
  • 00:42:57.444 --> 00:43:00.280
  • Real value, and that doesn't come from a dollar or a cent
  • 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:03.684
  • That somebody else paid for you.
  • 00:43:03.684 --> 00:43:06.820
  • No, it comes from the blood of jesus of how loved you are that
  • 00:43:06.820 --> 00:43:09.656
  • He was willing to give his life.
  • 00:43:09.656 --> 00:43:12.292
  • And i just really believe that god has used those that are
  • 00:43:12.292 --> 00:43:21.601
  • Hurting and suffering and going through living hells on earth to
  • 00:43:21.601 --> 00:43:26.740
  • Convict me that this is what i'm called to do--is to run towards
  • 00:43:26.740 --> 00:43:31.411
  • Them with the love and the light of jesus.
  • 00:43:31.411 --> 00:43:35.449
  • Do you know what's awesome?
  • 00:43:35.449 --> 00:43:36.817
  • We also know that, yes, it is daunting, it is evil, and there
  • 00:43:36.817 --> 00:43:40.087
  • Are a lot--there's a lot of evil that takes place in our
  • 00:43:40.087 --> 00:43:42.889
  • World right now.
  • 00:43:42.889 --> 00:43:44.424
  • But you know the encouraging thing?
  • 00:43:44.424 --> 00:43:46.626
  • Is when light and darkness meet, light wins every time.
  • 00:43:46.626 --> 00:43:51.998
  • And it's not close.
  • 00:43:51.998 --> 00:43:53.366
  • We get to bring that hope.
  • 00:43:53.366 --> 00:43:55.235
  • One of the things i love to encourage our team and other
  • 00:43:55.235 --> 00:43:58.038
  • Teams in ministry, is i want you to think about yourself as a
  • 00:43:58.038 --> 00:44:01.475
  • Hope carrier.
  • 00:44:01.475 --> 00:44:03.510
  • That you would take it and you would know, man, we get to bring
  • 00:44:03.510 --> 00:44:06.246
  • Such hope to the world and we get to do that sometimes with
  • 00:44:06.246 --> 00:44:09.950
  • Our words, we get to do that with our actions, we get to do
  • 00:44:09.950 --> 00:44:12.219
  • That with our kindness, we get to do that with our care, we
  • 00:44:12.219 --> 00:44:14.554
  • Get to do that with medical care.
  • 00:44:14.554 --> 00:44:15.956
  • We get to do that with with reconciliation, we get to do
  • 00:44:15.956 --> 00:44:18.859
  • That with safety in so many ways.
  • 00:44:18.859 --> 00:44:20.727
  • But when you think about yourself that way, right, we
  • 00:44:20.727 --> 00:44:23.163
  • Look through a different lens.
  • 00:44:23.163 --> 00:44:24.498
  • Man, i get--we get to be hope carriers and then you see people
  • 00:44:24.498 --> 00:44:27.667
  • That are starving for it.
  • 00:44:27.667 --> 00:44:30.137
  • There's something that happens inside of you where it's not
  • 00:44:30.137 --> 00:44:33.707
  • Just enough to bring it.
  • 00:44:33.707 --> 00:44:35.175
  • I have to urgently bring it.
  • 00:44:35.175 --> 00:44:37.444
  • You know, when we realize and we look at studies and one studies
  • 00:44:37.444 --> 00:44:40.814
  • Will say that every girl that's going through human trafficking
  • 00:44:40.814 --> 00:44:43.650
  • On average gets raped 5.3 times per day.
  • 00:44:43.650 --> 00:44:48.855
  • So when we know that is happening, how could we wait?
  • 00:44:48.855 --> 00:44:56.830
  • How could we jog?
  • 00:44:56.830 --> 00:44:59.332
  • How could we stand there?
  • 00:44:59.332 --> 00:45:03.303
  • And as a church, as a body of believers, that's done a lot of
  • 00:45:03.303 --> 00:45:08.341
  • Amazing things, but far too often we've jogged, we've stood
  • 00:45:08.341 --> 00:45:11.511
  • There, we've act like it's somebody else's
  • 00:45:11.511 --> 00:45:13.680
  • Problem or issue.
  • 00:45:13.680 --> 00:45:15.015
  • It's not. it's ours.
  • 00:45:15.015 --> 00:45:16.650
  • But the question is will we take responsibility and will we show
  • 00:45:16.650 --> 00:45:20.353
  • Up to the fight against good and evil?
  • 00:45:20.353 --> 00:45:24.925
  • Kirk: and you're one of the guys who is doing something about it
  • 00:45:24.925 --> 00:45:27.727
  • And your foundation and all the great people that you have
  • 00:45:27.727 --> 00:45:30.497
  • Working there.
  • 00:45:30.497 --> 00:45:31.832
  • Can you share a story of redemption that has come out of
  • 00:45:31.832 --> 00:45:35.669
  • The work done by your foundation?
  • 00:45:35.669 --> 00:45:37.771
  • Tim: oh, where do we start there?
  • 00:45:37.771 --> 00:45:42.108
  • Just, my favorite story is the god stories.
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  • One of our core values is that we embrace the joy and the
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  • Burden of the calling.
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  • I do not believe it is enough to just have the joy.
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  • I believe that, as believers, we should have the joy.
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  • We know the joy of the lord is our strength.
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  • We know that people finding hope and healing is also our joy.
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  • We get to rejoice in all things.
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  • Again, paul tells us to rejoice, right?
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  • And he's doing that from a basement or prison, right?
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  • So we know that it's not about our circumstances, it's about
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  • Our savior and we can have joy every day, but we also should
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  • Have a burden for the hurting.
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  • And we get to see that every single day.
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  • We get to see those with the burden, we get to see the joy,
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  • And we know that we can have both and we got--there's a
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  • Tension between it but i would say some of my favorite stories
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  • Have--one example is one girl that has gone through such a
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  • Horrible evil and has been brought out of that evil of
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  • Being trafficked and exploited for a very long time and some of
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  • The worst things that you could imagine, over and over and
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  • Over again.
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  • And she has gone through so much healing and accepted christ as
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  • Her personal lord and savior and has had the chance to be
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  • Baptized in the ocean.
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  • I've been so fortunate to be able to do that.
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  • And she wanted to change her identity for a lot of reasons.
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  • One, so that she would have a different identity for all the
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  • People that did evil to her, but also because she wanted a new
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  • Identity because she know that-- she knows her spiritual
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  • Identity changed.
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  • And so she changed it to a name that means princess of the lord.
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  • Because she knew it's not just my physical id that changed,
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  • It's my spiritual id that changed.
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  • And that is the hope that we get to see.
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  • That's the joy.
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  • It's the--it's the burden that we had for her in that
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  • Situation, but it's also you get to see the joy and you get to
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  • See the joy of the lord in her life--that it's not just that
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  • She's in a safer place and, yes, that is worth everything, but
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  • It's also, man, to see her want to choose, no, no, i want to
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  • Change my name.
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  • Because not just on the outside, but on the inside, different.
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  • Kirk: that's right, and going from some identity that makes
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  • Her feel like she's just worth less to realizing that she's
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  • Royalty in the eyes of god.
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  • Tim, that's awesome. you're making a difference.
  • 00:48:10.857 --> 00:48:13.026
  • You're making such a huge difference and, you know, some
  • 00:48:13.026 --> 00:48:16.329
  • People can join in and support your foundation.
  • 00:48:16.329 --> 00:48:20.166
  • If they want to do that, where do they go online to do that?
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  • Tim: well, they don't have to do that.
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  • I just encourage them to step in and be a part of different
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  • Organizations that are making a difference.
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  • If you feel called to be a part of ours, you can go to
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  • Timtebowfoundation.org and check out what we do and what we're
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  • Called to.
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  • But i would just encourage you to step in somewhere because
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  • There's a lot of people that need you to step in wherever
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  • You're feeling called, whatever you can do, would you leverage
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  • It for an mvp out there?
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  • Kirk: and finally, what do you hope people will take away from
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  • "look again"?
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  • Tim: my biggest hope and prayer is that part of it would be the
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  • Greatest encouragement for you.
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  • And the second part would be that it would be the greatest
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  • Challenge for you,
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  • That it would be the greatest encouragement 'cause you would
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  • See yourself through the lens of the cross the way that god
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  • Sees you.
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  • But then the challenge would come that you would see so many
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  • People that are suffering and hurting and that you would
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  • Answer the call to go care for them.
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  • Kirk: tim, thanks so much. tim: oh, my pleasure.
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  • Kirk: god bless you, brother. tim: god bless you, man.
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  • Thank you.
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  • Kirk: after the break, we'll review today's takeaways.
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  • Kirk: after the break, we'll review today's takeaways.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Kirk: wow, what a privilege to talk with tim tebow today.
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  • I am so grateful for his insight and for all the good work that
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  • He's doing.
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  • Tim gave us a great reminder that our faith isn't passive.
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  • Rather, it demands action, urgency, and a radical shift in
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  • How we see the world, or at least in how we are tempted to
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  • See the world.
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  • Here's a few of our takeaways.
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  • See people as royalty.
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  • Tim challenged us with that powerful action item.
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  • The term "image of god" isn't just about function.
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  • It's a statement of worth for all humanity: made in
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  • God's image.
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  • So stop seeing people for what they can do for you and start
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  • Seeing them with the innate value and dignity god has
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  • Given them.
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  • Chase the right mvp.
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  • Forget about being the most valuable player.
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  • It's time to chase the most vulnerable people.
  • 00:50:36.804 --> 00:50:41.008
  • Tim reminded us of the parable in matthew 25 when the king
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  • Says, "truly i tell you, whatever you did for one of the
  • 00:50:44.712 --> 00:50:48.082
  • Least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did it
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  • For me."
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  • So don't worry about the size of your platform.
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  • You can serve god with the platform you have right now,
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  • Just like the boy with the loaves and the fishes.
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  • God just wants a willing heart to give what's in your hands to
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  • The mvp.
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  • Love is an action, not an emotion.
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  • Love is a choice to act on behalf of others.
  • 00:51:14.575 --> 00:51:18.279
  • Tim taught us that love is the compassion of christ.
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  • It's a word that means to be moved from your most
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  • Inward parts.
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  • So when you and i love, we don't just feel.
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  • We act.
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  • He used the story of army medic desmond doss in "hacksaw ridge"
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  • To illustrate this.
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  • Remember, desmond was praying while he was literally crawling
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  • Under flying bullets in battle.
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  • He even helped his enemies.
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  • That is faith in action.
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  • So this week, don't just pray for those in need, ask god to
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  • Show you how you can act on their behalf.
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  • Run to the fight.
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  • Tim reminded us that we are called to be hope carriers in a
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  • World filled with a living hell on earth.
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  • We know the statistics.
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  • They're terrifying: that a trafficked girl is raped more
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  • Than five times a day.
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  • How can we do anything but run to their rescue?
  • 00:52:12.466 --> 00:52:17.238
  • That story of the young woman who renamed herself princess of
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  • The lord after she was baptized is the visible proof that god's
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  • Light shatters the darkness, redeeming a person's identity
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  • From the ashes and restoring them to royalty.
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  • We are his hands and feet, so let's act.
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  • Well, that's all for this episode of "takeaways."
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  • We hope to see you here next time for more
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  • Great conversations.
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  • ♪♪♪
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