Kirk Cameron is joined by former NFL Quarterback Tim Tebow discussing how God sees every person as valuable and our calling to do the same and make a difference in the lives around us.
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Takeaways with Kirk Cameron | Tim Tebow: Embracing the Way God Sees Each of Us | Takeaways with Kirk Cameron | November 3, 2025
- Kirk cameron: when is the last time you saw a homeless person
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- In your community and you found yourself looking away and not
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- Making eye contact?
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- Or maybe you ran across someone disabled or who needs special
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- Attention and you felt inadequate to help.
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- Did you know that we're all called to help the vulnerable,
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- The poor, and those in crisis?
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- My guest today, tim tebow, will share insights on how god sees
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- Each and every one of us as valuable and worthy, and by
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- Seeing others the same way, we can help make an impact on
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- Helping those in need.
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- Tim tebow: when we look at the life of of jesus, one of the
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- Things that i'm so impacted by, over and over again, is his love
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- For the most vulnerable but not that he just says it, but he
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- Acts upon it.
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- And the greatest form of love is not an emotion.
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- It's a choice.
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- Kirk: it's all next on "takeaways."
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- ♪♪♪
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- Kirk: my guest today is a speaker, entrepreneur, and
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- College football analyst for espn and the sec network.
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- Prior to his current endeavors, tim tebow was an nfl
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- Quarterback, a two-time college football national champion, and
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- A college football hall of fame inductee.
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- He's authored five "new york times" bestselling books, and
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- His latest one is called "look again: recognize your worth,
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- Renew your hope, run with confidence."
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- Tim, thanks so much for coming on "takeaway."
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- Tim: i appreciate it. great to see you.
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- That was a good snap too, he got there, i like it.
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- Kirk: you know, my kids taught me that.
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- I blew it so many times.
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- Tim: i love it. good for them.
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- Kirk: i embarrassed them. they finally taught me.
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- Tim: did all six of them teach you?
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- Because that's a lot of practice.
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- Kirk: especially my boys, and it depends on how old they are.
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- So older people don't know the snap either.
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- So i gotta go back to the other.
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- Tim: i get it. i get it.
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- Kirk: i'm so excited to have you here.
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- Tim: thank you, man. thanks for having me.
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- Kirk: i have so many people in my life who appreciate you, the
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- Work that you do, the work that your family does, and are just
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- So impressed with your consistency over the years, and
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- You're just an inspiration to them.
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- Tim: i appreciate it and i just am so grateful for you and the
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- Impact that you've had for so many years and just staying in
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- The fight for so many years and, growing up, getting a chance to
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- Watch you and hear you and just grateful for you.
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- So glad to be here.
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- Kirk: thank you.
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- Well, you've got a brand-new book out called "look again" and
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- I love the perspective that you take in here at reexamining
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- Yourself and other people the way that jesus does.
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- What inspired you to write this book and why now?
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- Tim: about 4 years ago i was at "a night to shine."
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- It's a worldwide celebration for individuals with special needs
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- And there's all these awesome cars that the kings and queens
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- Would be in the back of and it's driving over the red carpet and
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- All of the fans are standing there, cheering, and i'm
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- Cheering and cheering, and losing my voice, i'm cheering
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- So loud.
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- And there's this young lady that has blonde hair and a red dress
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- In a red convertible and the car drives by and i didn't even know
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- That our foundation was working with all the churches to put
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- Bumper stickers on the back of all the cars, but she drives by
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- And with just the absolute most joy.
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- And i just, i had so much joy from watching her and the car
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- Drives by and on the back it says, "royalty on board."
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- And i just get emotional and i started to think, "dang,
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- That's it.
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- That is it."
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- And so it started us on a journey for about the last 4
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- Years of studying what does it mean to be made
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- In the image of god?
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- Because, growing up, i hear all the time that it's rational,
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- Relational, or functional.
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- And so i thought, well, we're rational beings so that we can--
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- You know, god has given us a brain so that we can strategize
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- And that we can have rational thought or it's relational--that
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- We're created for a relationship with god and for other people.
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- And then functional--that he's called us to rule and reign and
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- Subdue the earth.
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- And i think all three of those are part of it but i so
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- Convicted because i thought, what about 16% of the world's
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- Population that have some form of special need?
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- Are they less in the image of god because maybe they can't do
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- That to the same extent and i believe that the heart of god is
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- Absolutely no,
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- That everyone is created on his--in his image on purpose
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- And for a purpose, and there's nobody that is less than or
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- More than.
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- And so we started to really look at it and and talking with a lot
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- Of ancient near east scholars and old testament scholars and
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- Historians and going back and really looking at what does it
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- Mean to be made in the image of god?
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- And when you really look at it from the ancient near east
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- Context, the image of god is a term that is for those that were
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- Exalted as kings or monarchs, and so you look at an egyptian
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- Pharaoh would be made in the image of ra, a god that they
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- Believed in.
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- An assyrian king would be made in the image of bael, a god that
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- They believed in.
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- So when you look at this term and when someone would have
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- Picked up the bible and read genesis in the ancient near
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- East, they would have been like, "oh my gosh, this is a term that
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- Was used for the kings or monarchs," and they would have
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- Seen it on statues but they would have seen it primarily
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- Just used in that way but now they're saying the god of the
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- Bible is saying this about all of humanity.
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- It is a royal worth statement.
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- It is god's heart for humanity.
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- That's how we should see it, more than just rational,
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- Relational, or functional.
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- Are those pieces?
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- Sure, i think they're pieces, but more so it is a worth
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- Statement of the value that our god has for all people.
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- Kirk: we're having church right here on the set of "takeaways."
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- This is awesome and i think that sometimes within christian
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- Circles, especially people who read their bible and they
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- Appreciate theology, we wanna start with the depravity of man
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- And we wanna say, you know, i'm nothing without god.
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- However, in scriptures we also have to see that we were made in
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- The image of god, like you're saying, and we have inherent
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- Worth and dignity simply because we were made in the image of the
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- One who created everything.
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- So sin is real but so is the inherent dignity of the
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- Human being.
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- Tim: absolutely, and have we fallen short?
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- There's no doubt.
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- I fall short on a daily basis, but it doesn't mean that i'm
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- Less in the image of god.
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- It doesn't mean that my worth and my value to god are less.
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- And then if we fast forward to the new testament and we look at
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- The life of jesus and the love, the greatest love story rescue
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- Mission of all time, which is the life of jesus, and that
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- Jesus's life, death, burial, resurrection, and he offers us
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- His free gift of eternal life-- that, when we accept it, that we
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- Are forgiven, reconciled, redeemed, but also adopted into
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- God's family.
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- We are sons and daughters of the king.
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- Therefore, what are we?
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- Royalty, because we're sons and daughters of the king.
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- So he creates us with this royal worth and then he reconciles
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- Into us--us into his family when we accept him, as royalty.
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- That's how we should see people, but in our society very often we
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- Don't see people with the true worth and value we should.
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- I know i've missed the mark so many times, and a lot of times
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- In our society we see people as valuable when they do something
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- That we believe is valuable to us.
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- But if they don't do something valuable, then we--and we have
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- To fight this lie that some lives matter less.
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- Because human worth is fixed and we have to fight that lie and
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- Embrace the truth that we are all made in god's image and we
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- Are all loved, we are all treasured, we were all seen by
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- God with this royal worth and value, and now we have to go
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- Live that out to the world.
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- Kirk: this is speaking to the need that every single one of us
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- Has, whether we are famous and talented or beautiful or smart
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- Or whether we don't really measure on those types of
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- Scales, but we are valuable to god, we are made in his image,
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- And we're gonna talk more about the way that jesus looked
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- At people.
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- And i can think of so many stories in the new testament
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- Where he went up close personal, put his hands on people, called
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- Them by name, and took care of them like they were royalty.
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- I'm fascinated how you wrote this book down into
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- Three sections.
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- Can you explain those three sections and why?
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- Tim: yes, recognize your worth, renew your hope, run
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- With confidence.
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- Recognize your worth: that when we recognize our worth, and it
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- Starts with us, that i would actually not from a standpoint
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- Of arrogance, from a standpoint of value and worth, that god
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- Loves me this much, that he-- when i was born, i wasn't
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- An accident,
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- I'm not a happenstance,
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- That i'm here on purpose and for a purpose.
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- That gives me a worth and a value that i am loved.
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- Yes, have i fallen short?
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- Absolutely, but i'm still valued in love.
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- And when it starts by looking at yourself in the value that god
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- Sees you and then when you understand that, then i--when i
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- See you, kirk, regardless of what we have in common or what
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- We don't have in common, like or dislike, i see you with that
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- Value, because that's the lens in which i'm seeing myself
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- Through and so that's the lens i'm gonna see you.
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- So it starts by recognizing your worth.
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- That renews my hope.
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- What does renew mean?
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- It just means to flourish once more--that we would actually
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- Flourish because we would find an anchor for our soul that is
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- Firm and secure and we find that in the person of jesus.
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- And then because we recognize our worth, it renews our hope,
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- Now i can truly run with a confidence.
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- I can run after the call that god has on my life, you can run
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- After the call that god has on your life, and we can run after
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- The people that we have been called to go care for.
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- And i really don't believe that we can do that if we don't
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- Recognize our worth or other people's worth--why would
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- I run?
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- Why would i exert the energy?
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- You see, maybe one example is i'll give--kirk, if i lost a
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- Penny and i said, "man, i lost a penny.
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- I really have to find it.
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- I can't find it.
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- It's under the couch, it's under something," like, you would look
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- At me and be like..."tebow, you're an idiot.
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- You've lost it."
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- But if my wife was here and she lost her diamond ring and i
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- Said, "kirk, my wife lost her diamond ring," you would know
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- Innately that it is valuable to her and a diamond ring is
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- Valuable, so you would probably be kind enough to say, "hey, i'm
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- Gonna stop and i'm gonna go look for it," right?
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- Kirk: for sure.
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- Tim: but in our society, how often do we treat people
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- Like pennies
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- Instead of more valuable than any diamond ring that has ever
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- Been created or found?
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- And see, if we see people as valuable and we know they're
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- Innately valuable, we will treat them that way, but we don't
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- Always see them that way.
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- When we drive by someone on the side of the street that's
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- Homeless, do we see them as valuable or do we just see them
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- For maybe the mistakes that they've made or the hard times
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- That they've hit?
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- And we have to rethink because, as you said, jesus did stop and
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- See people.
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- And i love the scripture.
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- I think it's maybe 67 times the bible tells us that jesus
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- Sees people.
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- You see, a lot of the society at that time, they saw people by
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- Their sin.
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- I can't help but be reminded of zacchaeus.
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- The people saw him and called him by a sin, but jesus sees him
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- In the tree and he calls him by his name, knowing that, hey,
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- You're gonna come down from that tree and just a few days later
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- I'm gonna go up a tree because you're so valuable to me.
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- Kirk: tim, people look at you and then they look again and
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- They see that's tim tebow.
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- They're not looking at you because they think of your sin.
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- They look at you because they think of your success.
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- How has writing "look again" helped you to look at yourself
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- Differently over the years, and to look at yourself differently
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- Than the way other people see you?
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- Tim: well, i think there's been so many times that i have--i
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- Have lived in shame because i'm reminded by the enemy of my
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- Worst days, my worst thoughts, my worst actions.
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- I remember there's been times when a mom or dad would say to
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- Me, "hey, i just want you to know you're our son or you're
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- Our daughter's role model," and i would think, "no ma'am, no
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- Sir, not if you knew me on my worst day, i wouldn't be their
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- Role model."
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- But then i also get to go back to scripture and remember that
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- I'm no longer defined by my scars.
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- I'm defined by his scars.
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- And yes, i have messed up and i have fallen short, but i also
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- Know that i've been covered by the blood of jesus and i have
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- Been redeemed and i have been reconciled and i have been made
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- Right with the father, right?
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- And so now i'm no longer and our heavenly father doesn't call us
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- By our sin.
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- He calls us by our name and that we get to know that we are
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- Adopted into his family when he sees us,
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- That he sees us through the blood of jesus, of what he has
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- Done for us and we have been reconciled.
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- What does reconciliation mean?
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- It means to make enemies friends.
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- Means to close the gap.
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- It means to be made right again.
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- You know, a lot of times we talk about salvation is just
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- Forgiveness and that's a part of it, but it's not
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- Just forgiveness.
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- That would be wiping the debt away.
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- It's more than just that.
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- It's more than just i got rid of your bad.
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- No, but i'm also making you right.
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- I'm bringing this together, reconciliation that you would be
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- Friends again, that there would be no separation in
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- Your relationship.
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- It's more than just forgiveness.
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- Reconciliation is what we get through the blood of jesus.
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- Kirk: we're gonna go away to a break and we're gonna come back
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- And drill down deeper into this.
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- This is wonderful.
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- When we come back, we're gonna continue to talk with tim about
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- How god sees all of us as worthy and valuable and how that should
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- Change us to see every person we meet the same way.
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- Stay with us.
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- Kirk: welcome back.
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- We're talking to former nfl quarterback and bestselling
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- Author tim tebow about his new book, "look again."
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- Tim, i love that in your book, you redefine mvp and you see it
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- Differently now.
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- What does it mean to you now?
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- Tim: well, it's because god really had to do a lot in my
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- Life to redefine it in my own heart first.
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- I know a lot of my life i have chased trying to be my best and
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- Trying to win and championships and every now and then maybe win
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- An mvp as most valuable player, but along the way, through a lot
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- Of hurting and suffering people, god had to reframe it in my
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- Heart and give me a more important mvp to chase and it
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- Wasn't the most valuable player, it was the most vulnerable
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- People and i, multiple times, have been so convicted that god
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- Was pricking my heart, saying, but, timmy, which one is gonna
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- Mean more to you?
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- Which one will you actually chase and run after more, with
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- More passion, with more urgency, with more dedication, with
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- More perseverance?
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- Which one will actually mean more to you?
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- Not which one will you say means more.
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- Which ones where your actions prove mean more to you?
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- Kirk: if we're to start focusing on the mvps around us, the most
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- Vulnerable people, what's the first step to start seeing
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- People that way?
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- Tim: the first step would be to see them through the lens of the
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- Cross, to see them through the lens of the bible, to see them
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- Through the lens of genesis 1:5-9, that we are all made in
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- God's image and that when jesus went to the cross that it
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- Counted for every single person that we will ever see.
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- And how do we know in our society how much something
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- Is worth?
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- By what someone is willing to pay for it.
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- That's how our--that's how economy works.
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- That's how our society works.
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- We know how much something costs by what someone is willing to
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- Pay for it.
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- So when we think about the life of jesus, as the son of god,
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- Who, i believe, as the son of god,
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- Has infinite value and worth.
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- He's the son of god, he has infinite value and worth.
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- Well, he was willing to give his life in exchange for yours and
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- For mine.
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- Therefore i believe that you and me and every single person has
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- Infinite value and worth.
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- You see, when i see people that way, that's gonna change the way
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- That i go and treat them.
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- If i see people as that valuable to god and i see them suffering,
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- How could i walk away?
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- How could i look past?
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- How could i look over?
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- When i see abandoned children, when i see hurting or traffic or
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- Exploited or those that are viewed as less than because they
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- Have a disability or special need, how could i look away?
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- But that's a lot of what we have in our society.
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- We have 16% of the world's population has special needs.
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- A lot of them are treated as less than, insignificant, or
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- Cursed a lot of places around the world.
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- You have 153 million orphaned or abandoned boys and girls around
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- The world.
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- You have over 700 million people that are malnourished around
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- The world.
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- You have more than 50 million people that are trapped in
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- Human trafficking.
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- How do we get to a place like that?
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- Well, it's because, as a whole, society, we have not seen every
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- Person as valuable.
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- So many times we have just seen those as valuable because of
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- What they do that is valuable to us.
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- But when we see them innately valuable, there will be
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- Something that stirs in us that we would know, no, i gotta stop
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- And i gotta go help, because i know how valuable they were to
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- God, that means they're gonna be valuable to me.
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- Kirk: you're sounding so much like jesus, i've never heard
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- I never--
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- Tim: i don't know about that.
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- Kirk: i don't mean that in the sense of being sinless.
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- I mean it in the sense of when i read the scriptures and i read
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- The stories of him meeting with the woman at the well, when i
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- Think of the man who was paralyzed and lying on the mat,
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- The people who essentially were the vulnerable people in society
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- That other people didn't want to talk to or even touch if they
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- Were a leper, jesus went to them and he would just, right?
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- And i--
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- Tim: well, if this is--if we wanna be like christ, let's look
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- At what he did.
- 00:18:06.587 --> 00:18:08.055
- Over 60% of jesus's publicly recorded miracles were for those
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- Who were afflicted.
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- In today's day and age that would be some form of special
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- Need or disability and over 70% of jesus's publicly recorded
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- Miracles were for those who we would consider the mvp, the most
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- Vulnerable people.
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- And then when you look at matthew 25 and it's echoed a lot
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- Of other places, but that's one of my favorite.
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- If you look at matthew 25 and jesus makes it not only
- 00:18:31.445 --> 00:18:36.317
- Imperative to us but he makes it personal to him where he said,
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- "whatever you have done to the least of these brothers and
- 00:18:40.554 --> 00:18:44.358
- Sisters of mine, you have done unto me."
- 00:18:44.358 --> 00:18:48.395
- Like, it's staggering.
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- A few years ago when i was really diving into that and i
- 00:18:50.130 --> 00:18:52.800
- Was just like, "what?"
- 00:18:52.800 --> 00:18:54.468
- Like, it becomes so personal to him that he makes himself the
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- Example--that how we treat the mvp is so personal to him that
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- He is saying, "that's how you're treating me."
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- So when we look past, when we look away, when we walk away,
- 00:19:08.849 --> 00:19:12.720
- When we don't care for him, it's personal to jesus and if it's
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- Personal to him, it better be personal to us.
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- Kirk: tim, you say in your book that image matters but not in
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- The way you might think.
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- Unpack that for us.
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- Tim: well, a lot of time our image is so important, our
- 00:19:25.566 --> 00:19:28.269
- Reputation, how people view us, how many fans we have on social
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- Media, do we--how many likes do we have?
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- How many--all of this.
- 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:35.075
- But a more important image is how does god see us?
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- How do we see ourselves and how are we gonna truly see
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- Other people?
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- Not are we gonna have the likes and the followers?
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- And i would share this: one of the things that i was staggered
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- By a few years ago when i saw this statistic, i saw that, in
- 00:19:47.955 --> 00:19:51.692
- One study, that 12% of our daily thoughts are spent in some form
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- Of comparison.
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- That's crazy.
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- Because if we're spending 12% of our daily thoughts in some form
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- Of comparison, then what's implied in that is that, "god, i
- 00:20:04.305 --> 00:20:10.110
- Wish i was like that person.
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- I wish i had that.
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- I wish i looked like her.
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- I wish i could play like him.
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- I wish i had that corner office, i had that thing."
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- And i don't believe that you can be in a mindset of comparison
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- And gratitude at the same time.
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- I think you can go back and forth, but when we're in a place
- 00:20:25.793 --> 00:20:28.028
- Of comparison, we're in a place of saying, "god, i'm not really
- 00:20:28.028 --> 00:20:32.066
- Content or grateful for where you have me, for who i am, for
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- Whose i am, for the things that you've blessed me with," like,
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- Because we're spending our time--by the way, when we
- 00:20:39.239 --> 00:20:41.375
- Compare ourselves to other people, especially on social
- 00:20:41.375 --> 00:20:43.677
- Media, you're comparing your real life to other people's fake
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- Best moment.
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- It's not real.
- 00:20:49.650 --> 00:20:51.185
- That's why they take so many photos in a row and then they
- 00:20:51.185 --> 00:20:53.687
- Have filters and then they edit it and they try to put the
- 00:20:53.687 --> 00:20:56.323
- Best one.
- 00:20:56.323 --> 00:20:57.691
- It's not real.
- 00:20:57.691 --> 00:20:59.026
- And we're comparing ourselves to other people's fake day.
- 00:20:59.026 --> 00:21:00.394
- And i just think that it leads to a place of desperation, of
- 00:21:00.394 --> 00:21:05.899
- Loneliness, and we have a loneliness epidemic at hand.
- 00:21:05.899 --> 00:21:10.838
- We are one of the loneliest generations ever, but we're
- 00:21:10.838 --> 00:21:14.174
- Surrounded by all this technology and by, so-called,
- 00:21:14.174 --> 00:21:16.810
- "all these people," but it's not real community.
- 00:21:16.810 --> 00:21:19.980
- It's not real fellowship.
- 00:21:19.980 --> 00:21:21.982
- It's not real relationship.
- 00:21:21.982 --> 00:21:24.017
- And we spend so much of our time just comparing ourselves to
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- Other people.
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- Kirk: tell us the story about trenton and the words "god
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- Is able."
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- Tim: oh man, it's just one of my favorite stories.
- 00:21:34.695 --> 00:21:36.096
- Trenton hill, he's an incredible young man.
- 00:21:36.096 --> 00:21:38.465
- He's part of our foundation family and trenton was in church
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- One day and they were sharing on judges and gideon, you know, "go
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- In the strength that you have.
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- Go in the strength that you have."
- 00:21:52.346 --> 00:21:53.680
- And trenton has cerebral palsy and he's thinking, "man, i
- 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:56.316
- Wanna go--" and the pastor's saying, "go in the strength that
- 00:21:56.316 --> 00:21:58.585
- You have, you know, go and impact the world.
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- Go and use what god's given you."
- 00:22:00.554 --> 00:22:02.022
- And he's thinking, "man, i wanna go.
- 00:22:02.022 --> 00:22:04.158
- I wanna go."
- 00:22:04.158 --> 00:22:05.492
- He's this amazing young man, but he's thinking, "but
- 00:22:05.492 --> 00:22:07.194
- I'm disabled.
- 00:22:07.194 --> 00:22:08.529
- I'm in a wheelchair."
- 00:22:08.529 --> 00:22:09.897
- And then he's sitting there and he's thinking, "well, what do
- 00:22:09.897 --> 00:22:12.966
- You get when you take the word 'go' and 'disable' and you put
- 00:22:12.966 --> 00:22:18.505
- Them together?
- 00:22:18.505 --> 00:22:20.374
- 'god is able.'"
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- And he's just one of the most remarkable young men that he
- 00:22:22.376 --> 00:22:26.046
- Would take that and think--and be reminded of god's word and
- 00:22:26.046 --> 00:22:29.316
- God's truth and god's promises.
- 00:22:29.316 --> 00:22:31.685
- I know i'm disabled, but i also know that god is able.
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- Kirk: what a great story, oh my goodness.
- 00:22:35.556 --> 00:22:37.958
- You have so many great stories in here and you're making me
- 00:22:37.958 --> 00:22:41.295
- Think of joni eareckson tada.
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- I'm thinking of helen keller.
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- I'm thinking of all these people who have disabilities and then
- 00:22:45.098 --> 00:22:49.937
- God demonstrates his abilities through them that so far surpass
- 00:22:49.937 --> 00:22:53.140
- So many able-bodied people who can do so much great stuff and
- 00:22:53.140 --> 00:22:57.311
- They're just focused on what god's able to do on purpose
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- Through them with purpose and they're impacting generations
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- Of people.
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- Tim: well, so many times we think, "well, god, you could do
- 00:23:05.953 --> 00:23:07.554
- More if i have this platform or if i'm in this place," and i'm
- 00:23:07.554 --> 00:23:11.058
- Reminded of the lad that scripture tells us, the boy who
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- Brings his loaves and his fish.
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- And that miracle didn't come because he brought so much to
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- The table.
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- That miracle came because he put what he had into the hands of
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- The miracle maker.
- 00:23:25.706 --> 00:23:27.174
- And we think all the time, "well, god, you could do more
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- With me if i had this platform, if i was on this team, if i won
- 00:23:31.011 --> 00:23:34.281
- This championship, if i had this many followers," and i really
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- Believe what god wants is a willingness to say, "hey, these
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- Are my loaves and my fish.
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- Sometimes i feel like it's a lot.
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- Sometimes i feel like it's a little.
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- Sometimes it's just crumbs to me, but god, would you just take
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- It and use it?"
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- I think god just wants a willing heart, and when we give what we
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- Have to him, he can do what he wants.
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- Kirk: the scriptures say that over and over and over--that the
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- Eyes of the lord are everywhere, he's searching to and fro, and
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- He's looking to show himself strong on behalf of those whose
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- Hearts are fully surrendered to him.
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- And often it's gonna be a nobody from nowhere with nothing to
- 00:24:06.246 --> 00:24:10.717
- Offer but a heart that is fully surrendered to him and that's
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- The guy that changes the world.
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- Tim: well, let's look at so much of scripture, right?
- 00:24:15.255 --> 00:24:18.058
- God used people that had all sorts of flaws and failures.
- 00:24:18.058 --> 00:24:23.130
- I'm so encouraged because i'm like, yes, i'm not disqualified.
- 00:24:23.130 --> 00:24:26.300
- You know, god can still use me in my shortcomings and failures
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- And flaws, because that's so much of scripture.
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- And it's so encouraging, and i think the more we get in god's
- 00:24:34.374 --> 00:24:37.044
- Word, the more we see that, we're more--the more we can be
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- Encouraged, like, oh awesome, god can still use me.
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- Kirk: we'll be right back with tim tebow sharing stories of
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- People that he's met along the way that made such a difference
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- In the lives of those around him.
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- Don't go away.
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- ♪♪♪
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- Kirk: we're back with my guest today, tim tebow, discussing
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- Ways that we can care for the vulnerable and those in crisis
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- Just like jesus did throughout his ministry.
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- Tim, let's go back and talk about jesus.
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- I mean, he is the archetype.
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- He is our hero when it comes to dealing with crisis situations
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- And valuing people.
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- What are some situations that we can learn from with regard to
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- Jesus going to the outcasts, the fringe, the dangerous, and
- 00:25:31.798 --> 00:25:36.703
- Loving them?
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- Tim: well, we can learn from every part of jesus, you know,
- 00:25:38.038 --> 00:25:41.208
- The author and perfecter of our faith.
- 00:25:41.208 --> 00:25:43.477
- And when we look at the life of of jesus, one of the things that
- 00:25:43.477 --> 00:25:50.083
- I'm so impacted by over and over again is his love for the most
- 00:25:50.083 --> 00:25:54.087
- Vulnerable, but not that he just says it, but he acts upon it.
- 00:25:54.087 --> 00:25:57.924
- And the greatest form of love is not an emotion, it's a choice,
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- The agape form of love.
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- And i believe the best definition for that is to choose
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- The best--to choose the best interests of another person and
- 00:26:04.998 --> 00:26:08.001
- Act on their behalf.
- 00:26:08.001 --> 00:26:09.369
- You see, when we as believers say that we love people, then we
- 00:26:09.369 --> 00:26:13.607
- Are going to choose their best interests and we're gonna act on
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- Their behalf.
- 00:26:16.743 --> 00:26:18.078
- It's not about, "oh, i love them and i'm gonna feel bad for them
- 00:26:18.078 --> 00:26:20.113
- Over here.
- 00:26:20.113 --> 00:26:21.448
- I'm gonna have sympathy or empathy."
- 00:26:21.448 --> 00:26:22.816
- No, i'm going to love them.
- 00:26:22.816 --> 00:26:24.151
- I'm gonna choose their best interests and share the good
- 00:26:24.151 --> 00:26:26.386
- News of the gospel.
- 00:26:26.386 --> 00:26:27.721
- I'm gonna choose their best interests and i'm gonna care
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- For them.
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- I'm gonna choose their best interests and find help, to get
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- Help, to rally people for them.
- 00:26:32.092 --> 00:26:33.860
- And we look at the life of jesus, that's what he did
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- Because it wasn't about just an emotion or a feeling.
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- Twelve times in the new testament, i believe it uses the
- 00:26:41.201 --> 00:26:43.637
- Word "compassion," and eight times it's used to talk
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- About jesus.
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- Compassion in our society, we mix it all the time with
- 00:26:47.274 --> 00:26:49.543
- Sympathy and empathy.
- 00:26:49.543 --> 00:26:50.877
- They're not the same.
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- For the greek it's the word "splagchnizomai" from--
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- For compassion.
- 00:26:54.648 --> 00:26:56.016
- It means to be moved from your most inward parts.
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- It is not comfortable.
- 00:26:58.051 --> 00:26:59.653
- But over and over again it would say, "jesus saw them, had
- 00:26:59.653 --> 00:27:02.856
- Compassion for them," moved from his most inward parts, "and he
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- Met their needs."
- 00:27:06.460 --> 00:27:07.828
- Like, we look at the man with leprosy that is lying face down
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- On the ground and he's yelling out to jesus, "lord, if you are
- 00:27:12.466 --> 00:27:16.036
- Willing, make me clean."
- 00:27:16.036 --> 00:27:17.738
- And jesus walks across and my guess is it's in front of a
- 00:27:17.738 --> 00:27:21.274
- Whole lot of people and my guess is also that there's a whole lot
- 00:27:21.274 --> 00:27:25.212
- Of people that are saying, "jesus, what are you doing?
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- Don't you know that you can't have anything to do with those
- 00:27:27.447 --> 00:27:29.850
- Of leprosy, you know that you would have to stay at least 6
- 00:27:29.850 --> 00:27:32.886
- Feet away," this was far before covid, okay?
- 00:27:32.886 --> 00:27:34.755
- You'd have to stay 6 feet away and if it was a windy day, you
- 00:27:34.755 --> 00:27:37.524
- Would have to be more than 100 feet away from someone with
- 00:27:37.524 --> 00:27:39.726
- Leprosy, and if they got close to you, they would always have
- 00:27:39.726 --> 00:27:42.195
- To say, "leprosy, leprosy, leprosy" or "unclean,
- 00:27:42.195 --> 00:27:44.498
- Unclean, unclean."
- 00:27:44.498 --> 00:27:45.832
- But yeah, jesus is walking to him and i can only imagine that
- 00:27:45.832 --> 00:27:48.135
- There are people like, "jesus, what are you doing?
- 00:27:48.135 --> 00:27:50.871
- Stay away.
- 00:27:50.871 --> 00:27:52.205
- Why would you--why would you be going to him?"
- 00:27:52.205 --> 00:27:53.940
- And he's covering the ground and he walks over and he puts his
- 00:27:53.940 --> 00:27:57.344
- Hand on, he says, "i am willing.
- 00:27:57.344 --> 00:28:01.481
- Be clean," and immediately, the bible says, the leprosy
- 00:28:01.481 --> 00:28:04.217
- Left him.
- 00:28:04.217 --> 00:28:05.585
- And i just--i love that story so much because you can only
- 00:28:05.585 --> 00:28:09.856
- Imagine what culture was saying at that time and the words
- 00:28:09.856 --> 00:28:14.127
- People were saying, how countercultural jesus was that
- 00:28:14.127 --> 00:28:18.431
- He didn't just say and he could have just said, "yeah,
- 00:28:18.431 --> 00:28:21.501
- Be clean."
- 00:28:21.501 --> 00:28:23.537
- But he walked over to him, and my guess is he probably
- 00:28:23.537 --> 00:28:27.440
- Bent over.
- 00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:29.543
- And he puts his hand on him and he shows him how much he matters
- 00:28:29.543 --> 00:28:33.446
- To him by, in front of all these people, doing something so
- 00:28:33.446 --> 00:28:36.750
- Countercultural that everybody else would be--that view him as
- 00:28:36.750 --> 00:28:40.287
- Less than, as insignificant, but he wasn't to jesus.
- 00:28:40.287 --> 00:28:43.623
- He made such a statement to him and to everybody, "no, i want
- 00:28:43.623 --> 00:28:47.027
- You to know how valuable you are to me.
- 00:28:47.027 --> 00:28:48.995
- I know in this society you're not viewed as valuable, but you
- 00:28:48.995 --> 00:28:52.098
- Are to me," and he bends over and he said, "yeah, i'm willing.
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- Be clean."
- 00:28:56.169 --> 00:28:57.537
- And immediately, leprosy leaves him.
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- That's, in my opinion, what we are called to do.
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- We are called to close the ground, not just sit from afar
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- And be like, "oh man, i--i'm gonna pray for you."
- 00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:10.217
- No, and i love prayer.
- 00:29:10.217 --> 00:29:11.751
- Prayer is so powerful and it is so important, but one of my
- 00:29:11.751 --> 00:29:14.988
- Favorite examples of how i believe we should live is--it's
- 00:29:14.988 --> 00:29:20.193
- From the movie, "hacksaw ridge."
- 00:29:20.193 --> 00:29:21.528
- You ever see that movie about desmond doss, "hacksaw ridge,"
- 00:29:21.528 --> 00:29:25.432
- And i believe it was the battle of okinawa, and you know, he was
- 00:29:25.432 --> 00:29:29.469
- Convicted not to carry a gun, not shoot people, but he's, you
- 00:29:29.469 --> 00:29:32.472
- Know, he still wants to help and so while he sees all of his
- 00:29:32.472 --> 00:29:35.842
- Fellow soldiers that are getting wounded and hurt, he starts to
- 00:29:35.842 --> 00:29:39.045
- Pray, "lord, please help me get one more."
- 00:29:39.045 --> 00:29:43.350
- And he would go and crawl while he's praying, "lord, please help
- 00:29:43.350 --> 00:29:46.553
- Me get one more," and he goes and he carries someone and
- 00:29:46.553 --> 00:29:49.289
- Crawls back and he goes and gets another one.
- 00:29:49.289 --> 00:29:51.558
- You see, why i love that picture is because in our society we
- 00:29:51.558 --> 00:29:55.528
- Either crawl or we pray, but he's doing both.
- 00:29:55.528 --> 00:29:59.799
- It's faith in action that i'm gonna crawl and say, "lord,
- 00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:02.769
- Please help me get one more."
- 00:30:02.769 --> 00:30:04.137
- But a lot of times we just sit here and we're like, you know,
- 00:30:04.137 --> 00:30:06.039
- "i'm just gonna pray that god shows up and helps all of
- 00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:08.241
- These people."
- 00:30:08.241 --> 00:30:09.576
- Yeah, you know how--one way he wants to do that?
- 00:30:09.576 --> 00:30:12.445
- Through you.
- 00:30:12.445 --> 00:30:14.247
- So why don't you start crawling to the mvps, to the most
- 00:30:14.247 --> 00:30:16.883
- Vulnerable, to the suffering?
- 00:30:16.883 --> 00:30:18.585
- Because that's what we're called to do.
- 00:30:18.585 --> 00:30:20.854
- And so why don't we pray while we're doing it.
- 00:30:20.854 --> 00:30:22.622
- Why don't we say, "god, open the door because i'm gonna run
- 00:30:22.622 --> 00:30:25.558
- Through it and i'm gonna go to them and i'm gonna go care
- 00:30:25.558 --> 00:30:27.961
- For them."
- 00:30:27.961 --> 00:30:29.296
- Why don't we start doing what he did and say, "lord, please help
- 00:30:29.296 --> 00:30:31.631
- Me get one more," while i'm actually putting that faith in
- 00:30:31.631 --> 00:30:34.034
- Action and i'm moving towards them like jesus did for the man
- 00:30:34.034 --> 00:30:36.569
- With leprosy.
- 00:30:36.569 --> 00:30:39.906
- Kirk: tim, you tell a story about ethan hallmark and why
- 00:30:39.906 --> 00:30:44.244
- He's so important for us to understand how we ought to
- 00:30:44.244 --> 00:30:47.480
- Respond to people.
- 00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:48.815
- Could you tell that?
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- Tim: yeah, because that's exactly--everything we're just
- 00:30:50.183 --> 00:30:51.518
- Talking about is exactly what ethan did.
- 00:30:51.518 --> 00:30:52.886
- Ethan was a young man that impacted my life so greatly.
- 00:30:52.886 --> 00:30:56.022
- He is a part of our foundation and our wish family and for
- 00:30:56.022 --> 00:31:03.029
- Ethan's official wish with make a wish, his dream was to go to
- 00:31:03.029 --> 00:31:07.667
- Maui and it was to be able to see the sunrise, see the sunset,
- 00:31:07.667 --> 00:31:11.137
- And be able to go fish during this time, and so, you know,
- 00:31:11.137 --> 00:31:14.274
- He's granted his official wish and he's in the middle of the
- 00:31:14.274 --> 00:31:19.245
- Wish that was for him when everything was being made
- 00:31:19.245 --> 00:31:23.049
- About him.
- 00:31:23.049 --> 00:31:24.718
- And he sees a young man that's hurting and he leaves this whole
- 00:31:24.718 --> 00:31:30.156
- Thing that's built for him and he walks over and he talks to
- 00:31:30.156 --> 00:31:33.360
- This young man because he sees there's something in him that
- 00:31:33.360 --> 00:31:36.296
- Is hurting.
- 00:31:36.296 --> 00:31:38.264
- And he goes back to his family and they're just, you know,
- 00:31:38.264 --> 00:31:40.700
- Don't really know what's going on and the kind of the
- 00:31:40.700 --> 00:31:43.036
- Whole--anything.
- 00:31:43.036 --> 00:31:44.371
- He doesn't say much about it.
- 00:31:44.371 --> 00:31:45.705
- He just goes and talks to this man for a few moments and then
- 00:31:45.705 --> 00:31:47.574
- He comes back and he gets to experience his wish.
- 00:31:47.574 --> 00:31:50.510
- And years later--i think it was about 10 years later--
- 00:31:50.510 --> 00:31:56.916
- Make a wish was trying to get in touch with the hallmark family.
- 00:31:56.916 --> 00:32:02.088
- They finally did, and they said, "hey, there's this young man
- 00:32:02.088 --> 00:32:06.092
- That during ethan's wish, he talked to and that man really
- 00:32:06.092 --> 00:32:11.231
- Wants to get a hold of y'all.
- 00:32:11.231 --> 00:32:13.066
- Is it okay?"
- 00:32:13.066 --> 00:32:14.434
- They said yes.
- 00:32:14.434 --> 00:32:15.769
- So they connected this man and he got in touch with
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- Mrs. hallmark and he said, "mrs. hallmark,
- 00:32:18.605 --> 00:32:21.808
- You don't know me but during ethan's wish, i was the
- 00:32:21.808 --> 00:32:26.012
- Young man that he came and talked to.
- 00:32:26.012 --> 00:32:28.515
- And i want you to know that, at that time, i was a
- 00:32:28.515 --> 00:32:32.285
- Raging alcoholic.
- 00:32:32.285 --> 00:32:34.354
- I didn't have hope, but i want you to know, since ethan came
- 00:32:34.354 --> 00:32:38.792
- Over and talked to me, and the kindness and the courage and the
- 00:32:38.792 --> 00:32:42.095
- Boldness and the love and the faith that he shared with me,
- 00:32:42.095 --> 00:32:45.331
- Since that day, i have not had another drop of alcohol and i've
- 00:32:45.331 --> 00:32:49.736
- Also said yes to jesus."
- 00:32:49.736 --> 00:32:53.640
- And it's--that's what ethan did.
- 00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:57.143
- He was a young man that was fighting cancer.
- 00:32:57.143 --> 00:33:01.181
- Didn't live a whole lot longer than that after his wish.
- 00:33:01.181 --> 00:33:04.150
- He passed away a little bit later, and i just can only
- 00:33:04.150 --> 00:33:07.153
- Imagine his reception in heaven was pretty special because the
- 00:33:07.153 --> 00:33:10.490
- Way he lived and, actually, in our tv room, one of my favorite
- 00:33:10.490 --> 00:33:14.094
- Quotes is from ethan.
- 00:33:14.094 --> 00:33:15.595
- He said, "it doesn't matter if you live to be 1 or 100.
- 00:33:15.595 --> 00:33:18.331
- What matters is what you did for christ."
- 00:33:18.331 --> 00:33:20.834
- That's who ethan hallmark was.
- 00:33:20.834 --> 00:33:23.603
- Kirk: why do you suppose so many of us stay stuck looking at
- 00:33:23.603 --> 00:33:29.409
- People the same old way and we're afraid to reach out and
- 00:33:29.409 --> 00:33:33.613
- Talk to people or help those who are less fortunate than us?
- 00:33:33.613 --> 00:33:37.851
- Tim: because we look through a faulty lens.
- 00:33:37.851 --> 00:33:43.356
- I've looked through a faulty lens so much of my life.
- 00:33:43.356 --> 00:33:46.226
- I'm also color blind, by the way, and so i literally have
- 00:33:46.226 --> 00:33:48.895
- Faulty lenses, but i saw a story a few years ago someone sent to
- 00:33:48.895 --> 00:33:53.666
- Me of a man for his birthday, i think he's probably in his 60s,
- 00:33:53.666 --> 00:33:57.971
- And his family got him glasses that would help him to see
- 00:33:57.971 --> 00:34:01.374
- Colors better and they give him these glasses and he's like,
- 00:34:01.374 --> 00:34:04.978
- "what am i doing?"
- 00:34:04.978 --> 00:34:06.346
- And he puts on these glasses.
- 00:34:06.346 --> 00:34:07.680
- And his reaction to being able to see color so much better, he
- 00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:12.519
- Literally gets so emotional and he starts to tear up and he sees
- 00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:16.656
- And he turns and he looks over here and he sees, like, i think
- 00:34:16.656 --> 00:34:20.026
- It was woods and he looks over here and he sees all these
- 00:34:20.026 --> 00:34:22.562
- Colors and he looks at the sky and he's seeing--and he starts
- 00:34:22.562 --> 00:34:25.365
- Weeping and he's so happy and these tears of joy and i was
- 00:34:25.365 --> 00:34:29.335
- Watching that and i was like, that's how we should see people
- 00:34:29.335 --> 00:34:35.141
- If we saw them through the lens of the cross.
- 00:34:35.141 --> 00:34:39.279
- We would see people and we would say, "oh, kirk, i'm so glad to
- 00:34:39.279 --> 00:34:42.715
- See you.
- 00:34:42.715 --> 00:34:44.651
- I see an image being of my creator.
- 00:34:44.651 --> 00:34:47.153
- Man, it's so good to see you."
- 00:34:47.153 --> 00:34:49.622
- Like, we see people that are suffering and we see their true
- 00:34:49.622 --> 00:34:51.824
- Worth and value, and we see them suffering, we see royalty
- 00:34:51.824 --> 00:34:54.727
- In rubble.
- 00:34:54.727 --> 00:34:56.095
- Guess what we do?
- 00:34:56.095 --> 00:34:57.430
- We go care for them.
- 00:34:57.430 --> 00:34:58.798
- We go help them in that situation.
- 00:34:58.798 --> 00:35:00.600
- We should have that same reaction that he had to putting
- 00:35:00.600 --> 00:35:03.670
- On those glasses that help him see colors, because we would
- 00:35:03.670 --> 00:35:06.606
- See people through the lens of the cross and it would
- 00:35:06.606 --> 00:35:08.841
- Change everything.
- 00:35:08.841 --> 00:35:11.044
- Kirk: man, this is a life-changing book.
- 00:35:11.044 --> 00:35:14.447
- I'm so excited that we get to talk about this and for
- 00:35:14.447 --> 00:35:16.783
- Everybody to get to read this now that it's out.
- 00:35:16.783 --> 00:35:20.186
- In the last section of the book, you say that rest is biblical.
- 00:35:20.186 --> 00:35:24.324
- That's good.
- 00:35:24.324 --> 00:35:25.692
- I like rest, but so is running.
- 00:35:25.692 --> 00:35:27.026
- Unpack that for us.
- 00:35:27.026 --> 00:35:28.394
- Tim: oh man, this is something i've wrestled with a lot in
- 00:35:28.394 --> 00:35:32.932
- My life.
- 00:35:32.932 --> 00:35:35.802
- I love church.
- 00:35:35.802 --> 00:35:37.170
- I love the big c church.
- 00:35:37.170 --> 00:35:38.504
- I love my home church.
- 00:35:38.504 --> 00:35:39.872
- I love church.
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- But so much of the time in church as we talk about rest--
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- As we should, it is biblical.
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- But i also don't necessarily believe that rest is that we
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- Should just kick our feet up and watch football all
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- Sunday, right?
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- That's not really, i think, what the bible had in mind for
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- The sabbath.
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- I actually think it's resting with jesus in jesus, and being
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- Able to spend time with him and with our family and being able
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- To point to jesus and have a focal point of our rest.
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- And so i do, i'm not trying to downplay rest.
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- I think it is important.
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- I know it is important.
- 00:36:12.505 --> 00:36:14.607
- But at the same time, so is running.
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- Running is such an emphasis in the new testament, it's such an
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- Emphasis with paul, and paul uses the example of athletes all
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- The time and we just don't hear it shared a lot--that we would
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- Actually run after the call of god in our lives, that we would
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- Run after those that have never heard the gospel, that we would
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- Run after those that are suffering.
- 00:36:41.334 --> 00:36:44.437
- I feel like i've spent a lot of my life as a believer, jogging.
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- Not running.
- 00:36:51.077 --> 00:36:52.412
- See, the word that's used in scripture is the word "trejo,"
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- And it means to advance speedily like an athlete moving forward
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- With full effort and a directed purpose.
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- How often are we moving forward when god's calling us to
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- Something with full effort and a directed purpose?
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- I can tell you, for me in sports, i was moving forward
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- With a full effort and a directed purpose.
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- Maybe was okay sometimes and maybe not as good sometimes.
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- It's not about how good i was, but man, i was trying hard.
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- Man, i was willing to play with broken bones.
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- I was willing to just blood, sweat, and tears.
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- I was willing to give up vacations.
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- I was willing to put in time, strategy, focus, effort.
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- I was willing to embrace the grind.
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- For what?
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- And i'm not saying it's--i think anything we do, we should
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- Try hard with it.
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- Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your mind.
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- I'm not saying that that is bad, but what i am saying is if i was
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- Doing--willing to do all of that for a game, what should i
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- Be willing to do for the cause of christ, for suffering people?
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- And i would say one of the most disappointing things about my
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- Life is that my greatest effort has been for a game.
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- But hopefully, if we could have a conversation at the end of my
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- Life or in heaven looking back, i could say, "no, kirk, it
- 00:38:00.346 --> 00:38:02.882
- Started for a game, but it ended for the cause of christ"--
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- That we would actually run, that we wouldn't walk, we wouldn't
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- Jog, we wouldn't meander.
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- But we would run after what god has called us to
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- And, man, i don't-- it might be hard.
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- It will be hard.
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- We will have troubles and trials.
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- We will have tribulation.
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- That's also promised, but i also believe it will be totally
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- Worth it.
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- Totally worth it.
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- And i just would encourage and challenge all of the listeners:
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- What will your greatest effort be for?
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- And will that thing be worth it?
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- And if it's the cause of christ, if it's a calling god has for
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- You, it'll be worth it.
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- Kirk: after the break, tim will share more about the work that
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- They do at his foundation and what we can do to have an impact
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- In our own communities.
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- Stay with us.
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- Kirk: we're back.
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- Tim tebow is my guest today, and we're talking about his latest
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- Book called, "look again: recognize your worth, renew your
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- Hope, run with confidence."
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- Tim, this book is amazing.
- 00:39:15.088 --> 00:39:16.723
- I mean, i needed this conversation and i can't wait
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- For people to read this and look again at their whole life.
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- I wanna talk about your foundation.
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- Tell us what it's all about.
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- Tim: well, our mission statement is to bring faith, hope, and
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- Love to those needing a brighter day in their darkest hour of
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- Need, but to really sum it up is to fight for people that can't
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- Fight for themselves and to go to the darkest places and bring
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- The light and the hope of jesus and to go to conflict,
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- Crisis, chaos.
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- We're fortunate to serve in just over 115 countries around the
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- World and our heart is to be able to fight for those that are
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- Being trafficked or exploited, to be able to care for those
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- That are being overlooked or have special needs or those with
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- Profound medical needs or those that are orphaned and don't have
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- A family and to be able to bring that faith, hope, and love
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- For them.
- 00:40:04.605 --> 00:40:05.973
- And it is really to be able to care for the mvp, the most
- 00:40:05.973 --> 00:40:08.108
- Vulnerable people, and we want to do that any and every way
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- Possible, especially those in their darkest hour of need, is
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- The real area that god has put on our heart and asked us to
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- Run after.
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- Kirk: this is where the rubber meets the road.
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- I mean, you're putting your money, your time, your effort,
- 00:40:23.690 --> 00:40:29.096
- Where your mouth is, and you're actually doing these things in
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- 115 countries around the world, serving the most
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- Vulnerable people.
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- What are some of the practical ways that your foundation is
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- Helping people who are being trafficked and impoverished
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- And marginalized?
- 00:40:41.174 --> 00:40:42.509
- Tim: well, we have teams every day that work with law
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- Enforcement to be able to safeguard and bring as many of
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- Those that are being trafficked to a place of healing.
- 00:40:47.047 --> 00:40:49.883
- We have over 50 safe homes and 20 more in progress where you
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- Get the care, and bring long-term restoration and
- 00:40:53.987 --> 00:40:57.090
- Healing to those that have gone through a living hell on earth.
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- We're fortunate with our partners to have four hospitals
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- Around the world, to have orphanages in a bunch of
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- Different countries, to be able to, in any and every way,
- 00:41:09.670 --> 00:41:13.140
- Leverage whatever god has given us for the sake of the mvp.
- 00:41:13.140 --> 00:41:17.544
- And what does leverage mean?
- 00:41:17.544 --> 00:41:18.912
- It just means to take what you have and put it on the table for
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- Something new and better.
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- And for us, that new and better is for someone to experience
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- Hope, for someone to flourish once more, someone to understand
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- What a family really looks like, to understand what love really
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- Looks like.
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- You know, there was, quite a few years back, i was in a location
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- Where, a country, where faith isn't really allowed and we have
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- Been able to bring a lot of kids out of terrible places of evil
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- And the first little girl that i saw, she didn't make enough
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- Money one day and her mom boiled out her eye.
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- And the next little girl that i got introduced to was a girl
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- That had been sold by her family.
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- Another one was her dad was the first one to rape her, and i was
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- So--in such a, i don't know, such a place of not--kirk, what
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- Do you say to a little boy or girl about what a heavenly
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- Father is like when their idea of a father is just the first
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- Person that raped them?
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- What do you say to a little girl when the idea of love is--
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- Really, just looks like betrayal or exploitation?
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- How do you even start this?
- 00:42:38.959 --> 00:42:41.528
- And do you know how i believe it starts?
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- By showing up again and again and again and trying to earn
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- That trust--that we love you and we want something for you.
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- We want nothing from you and what we want for you is to be
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- Able to flourish.
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- What we want for you is for you to know your real worth and your
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- Real value, and that doesn't come from a dollar or a cent
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- That somebody else paid for you.
- 00:43:03.684 --> 00:43:06.820
- No, it comes from the blood of jesus of how loved you are that
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- He was willing to give his life.
- 00:43:09.656 --> 00:43:12.292
- And i just really believe that god has used those that are
- 00:43:12.292 --> 00:43:21.601
- Hurting and suffering and going through living hells on earth to
- 00:43:21.601 --> 00:43:26.740
- Convict me that this is what i'm called to do--is to run towards
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- Them with the love and the light of jesus.
- 00:43:31.411 --> 00:43:35.449
- Do you know what's awesome?
- 00:43:35.449 --> 00:43:36.817
- We also know that, yes, it is daunting, it is evil, and there
- 00:43:36.817 --> 00:43:40.087
- Are a lot--there's a lot of evil that takes place in our
- 00:43:40.087 --> 00:43:42.889
- World right now.
- 00:43:42.889 --> 00:43:44.424
- But you know the encouraging thing?
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- Is when light and darkness meet, light wins every time.
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- And it's not close.
- 00:43:51.998 --> 00:43:53.366
- We get to bring that hope.
- 00:43:53.366 --> 00:43:55.235
- One of the things i love to encourage our team and other
- 00:43:55.235 --> 00:43:58.038
- Teams in ministry, is i want you to think about yourself as a
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- Hope carrier.
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- That you would take it and you would know, man, we get to bring
- 00:44:03.510 --> 00:44:06.246
- Such hope to the world and we get to do that sometimes with
- 00:44:06.246 --> 00:44:09.950
- Our words, we get to do that with our actions, we get to do
- 00:44:09.950 --> 00:44:12.219
- That with our kindness, we get to do that with our care, we
- 00:44:12.219 --> 00:44:14.554
- Get to do that with medical care.
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- We get to do that with with reconciliation, we get to do
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- That with safety in so many ways.
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- But when you think about yourself that way, right, we
- 00:44:20.727 --> 00:44:23.163
- Look through a different lens.
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- Man, i get--we get to be hope carriers and then you see people
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- That are starving for it.
- 00:44:27.667 --> 00:44:30.137
- There's something that happens inside of you where it's not
- 00:44:30.137 --> 00:44:33.707
- Just enough to bring it.
- 00:44:33.707 --> 00:44:35.175
- I have to urgently bring it.
- 00:44:35.175 --> 00:44:37.444
- You know, when we realize and we look at studies and one studies
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- Will say that every girl that's going through human trafficking
- 00:44:40.814 --> 00:44:43.650
- On average gets raped 5.3 times per day.
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- So when we know that is happening, how could we wait?
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- How could we jog?
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- How could we stand there?
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- And as a church, as a body of believers, that's done a lot of
- 00:45:03.303 --> 00:45:08.341
- Amazing things, but far too often we've jogged, we've stood
- 00:45:08.341 --> 00:45:11.511
- There, we've act like it's somebody else's
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- Problem or issue.
- 00:45:13.680 --> 00:45:15.015
- It's not. it's ours.
- 00:45:15.015 --> 00:45:16.650
- But the question is will we take responsibility and will we show
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- Up to the fight against good and evil?
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- Kirk: and you're one of the guys who is doing something about it
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- And your foundation and all the great people that you have
- 00:45:27.727 --> 00:45:30.497
- Working there.
- 00:45:30.497 --> 00:45:31.832
- Can you share a story of redemption that has come out of
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- The work done by your foundation?
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- Tim: oh, where do we start there?
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- Just, my favorite story is the god stories.
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- One of our core values is that we embrace the joy and the
- 00:45:45.412 --> 00:45:48.315
- Burden of the calling.
- 00:45:48.315 --> 00:45:49.716
- I do not believe it is enough to just have the joy.
- 00:45:49.716 --> 00:45:53.253
- I believe that, as believers, we should have the joy.
- 00:45:53.253 --> 00:45:56.323
- We know the joy of the lord is our strength.
- 00:45:56.323 --> 00:45:58.058
- We know that people finding hope and healing is also our joy.
- 00:45:58.058 --> 00:46:01.428
- We get to rejoice in all things.
- 00:46:01.428 --> 00:46:03.163
- Again, paul tells us to rejoice, right?
- 00:46:03.163 --> 00:46:05.298
- And he's doing that from a basement or prison, right?
- 00:46:05.298 --> 00:46:08.201
- So we know that it's not about our circumstances, it's about
- 00:46:08.201 --> 00:46:11.037
- Our savior and we can have joy every day, but we also should
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- Have a burden for the hurting.
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- And we get to see that every single day.
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- We get to see those with the burden, we get to see the joy,
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- And we know that we can have both and we got--there's a
- 00:46:22.182 --> 00:46:25.185
- Tension between it but i would say some of my favorite stories
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- Have--one example is one girl that has gone through such a
- 00:46:30.023 --> 00:46:36.162
- Horrible evil and has been brought out of that evil of
- 00:46:36.162 --> 00:46:39.799
- Being trafficked and exploited for a very long time and some of
- 00:46:39.799 --> 00:46:42.669
- The worst things that you could imagine, over and over and
- 00:46:42.669 --> 00:46:45.772
- Over again.
- 00:46:45.772 --> 00:46:47.107
- And she has gone through so much healing and accepted christ as
- 00:46:47.107 --> 00:46:53.113
- Her personal lord and savior and has had the chance to be
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- Baptized in the ocean.
- 00:46:56.616 --> 00:46:58.585
- I've been so fortunate to be able to do that.
- 00:46:58.585 --> 00:47:00.854
- And she wanted to change her identity for a lot of reasons.
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- One, so that she would have a different identity for all the
- 00:47:05.292 --> 00:47:08.295
- People that did evil to her, but also because she wanted a new
- 00:47:08.295 --> 00:47:12.165
- Identity because she know that-- she knows her spiritual
- 00:47:12.165 --> 00:47:15.201
- Identity changed.
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- And so she changed it to a name that means princess of the lord.
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- Because she knew it's not just my physical id that changed,
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- It's my spiritual id that changed.
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- And that is the hope that we get to see.
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- That's the joy.
- 00:47:33.653 --> 00:47:35.055
- It's the--it's the burden that we had for her in that
- 00:47:35.055 --> 00:47:37.824
- Situation, but it's also you get to see the joy and you get to
- 00:47:37.824 --> 00:47:40.760
- See the joy of the lord in her life--that it's not just that
- 00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:44.698
- She's in a safer place and, yes, that is worth everything, but
- 00:47:44.698 --> 00:47:47.968
- It's also, man, to see her want to choose, no, no, i want to
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- Change my name.
- 00:47:52.939 --> 00:47:54.274
- Because not just on the outside, but on the inside, different.
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- Kirk: that's right, and going from some identity that makes
- 00:47:58.712 --> 00:48:03.717
- Her feel like she's just worth less to realizing that she's
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- Royalty in the eyes of god.
- 00:48:08.521 --> 00:48:10.857
- Tim, that's awesome. you're making a difference.
- 00:48:10.857 --> 00:48:13.026
- You're making such a huge difference and, you know, some
- 00:48:13.026 --> 00:48:16.329
- People can join in and support your foundation.
- 00:48:16.329 --> 00:48:20.166
- If they want to do that, where do they go online to do that?
- 00:48:20.166 --> 00:48:22.969
- Tim: well, they don't have to do that.
- 00:48:22.969 --> 00:48:24.637
- I just encourage them to step in and be a part of different
- 00:48:24.637 --> 00:48:28.375
- Organizations that are making a difference.
- 00:48:28.375 --> 00:48:29.743
- If you feel called to be a part of ours, you can go to
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- Timtebowfoundation.org and check out what we do and what we're
- 00:48:32.145 --> 00:48:35.315
- Called to.
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- But i would just encourage you to step in somewhere because
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- There's a lot of people that need you to step in wherever
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- You're feeling called, whatever you can do, would you leverage
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- It for an mvp out there?
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- Kirk: and finally, what do you hope people will take away from
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- "look again"?
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- Tim: my biggest hope and prayer is that part of it would be the
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- Greatest encouragement for you.
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- And the second part would be that it would be the greatest
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- Challenge for you,
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- That it would be the greatest encouragement 'cause you would
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- See yourself through the lens of the cross the way that god
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- Sees you.
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- But then the challenge would come that you would see so many
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- People that are suffering and hurting and that you would
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- Answer the call to go care for them.
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- Kirk: tim, thanks so much. tim: oh, my pleasure.
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- Kirk: god bless you, brother. tim: god bless you, man.
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- Thank you.
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- Kirk: after the break, we'll review today's takeaways.
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- Kirk: after the break, we'll review today's takeaways.
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- ♪♪♪
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- Kirk: wow, what a privilege to talk with tim tebow today.
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- I am so grateful for his insight and for all the good work that
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- He's doing.
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- Tim gave us a great reminder that our faith isn't passive.
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- Rather, it demands action, urgency, and a radical shift in
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- How we see the world, or at least in how we are tempted to
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- See the world.
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- Here's a few of our takeaways.
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- See people as royalty.
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- Tim challenged us with that powerful action item.
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- The term "image of god" isn't just about function.
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- It's a statement of worth for all humanity: made in
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- God's image.
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- So stop seeing people for what they can do for you and start
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- Seeing them with the innate value and dignity god has
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- Given them.
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- Chase the right mvp.
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- Forget about being the most valuable player.
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- It's time to chase the most vulnerable people.
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- Tim reminded us of the parable in matthew 25 when the king
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- Says, "truly i tell you, whatever you did for one of the
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- Least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did it
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- For me."
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- So don't worry about the size of your platform.
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- You can serve god with the platform you have right now,
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- Just like the boy with the loaves and the fishes.
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- God just wants a willing heart to give what's in your hands to
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- The mvp.
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- Love is an action, not an emotion.
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- Love is a choice to act on behalf of others.
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- Tim taught us that love is the compassion of christ.
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- It's a word that means to be moved from your most
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- Inward parts.
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- So when you and i love, we don't just feel.
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- We act.
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- He used the story of army medic desmond doss in "hacksaw ridge"
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- To illustrate this.
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- Remember, desmond was praying while he was literally crawling
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- Under flying bullets in battle.
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- He even helped his enemies.
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- That is faith in action.
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- So this week, don't just pray for those in need, ask god to
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- Show you how you can act on their behalf.
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- Run to the fight.
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- Tim reminded us that we are called to be hope carriers in a
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- World filled with a living hell on earth.
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- We know the statistics.
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- They're terrifying: that a trafficked girl is raped more
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- Than five times a day.
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- How can we do anything but run to their rescue?
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- That story of the young woman who renamed herself princess of
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- The lord after she was baptized is the visible proof that god's
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- Light shatters the darkness, redeeming a person's identity
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- From the ashes and restoring them to royalty.
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- We are his hands and feet, so let's act.
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- Well, that's all for this episode of "takeaways."
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- Forget to set your dvr to never miss an episode.
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- We hope to see you here next time for more
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- Great conversations.
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- ♪♪♪
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