David Jeremiah - Why The Nativity? Interview

November 30, 2024 | S1:E1290

Join Dr. David Jeremiah and Sheila Walsh on the set of Why the Nativity? as they discuss various aspects of the birth of Christ.

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Turning Point with Dr. David Jeremiah | David Jeremiah - Why The Nativity? Interview | November 30, 2024

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Announcer: in the nativity story,
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Everything, all lives, all storylines, all prophecy,
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Intersects in bethlehem.
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Naturally, bethlehem served as the backdrop
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To david jeremiah's "why the nativity?"
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Docudrama film, with a set of that little town
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Created specifically for the film.
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And in preparation for its release,
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Dr. jeremiah sat down on the set with sheila walsh
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To discuss how important it is to keep christ in christmas
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This holiday season and for years to come.
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Sheila walsh: every year, millions of people
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Around the globe celebrate christmas,
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But what does it mean?
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Hello, i'm sheila walsh, and in just a moment
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I'm going to have the privilege of talking to someone
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Who has devoted his life to the real meaning of christmas
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And most recently with his film production
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About the birth of jesus, "why the nativity?"
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Drawing from both the old and new testaments,
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Noted pastor and theologian dr. david jeremiah provides
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Answers to our questions about the nativity
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And gives us compelling reasons to celebrate the birth of jesus.
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Hello, dr. jeremiah.
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It is so wonderful to be here.
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Dr. david jeremiah: sheila, thank you for coming to do this.
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Sheila: this is amazing.
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We're on the bethlehem-nazareth backlot
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Of your brand new movie-- docudrama, "why the nativity?"
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And i have to say, i very rarely run out of words.
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This is spectacular.
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Dr. jeremiah: you know, sheila, i've been in the real bethlehem
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In israel, but sitting here is almost more overwhelming
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Than when i was there because of all that's gone in
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To make this as authentic as we could.
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Sheila: the attention to detail is absolutely breathtaking.
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Dr. jeremiah: yeah, i tell you what, i couldn't be
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More excited and more proud of our guys and gals
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Who worked on this.
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This has been an obsession with them
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For almost three years now and been through a lot
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Of ups and downs and starts and stops, but here we are.
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Sheila: yep, we'll talk about some of that.
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But before we get to the actual movie,
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This began as a book.
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Tell us about that.
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Dr. jeremiah: you know, every book is like an adventure.
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I know you're an author, so you know what i mean.
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People always ask you, "why did you write that book?"
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And if you stop for a moment and think about it,
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There's always a reason.
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And this book started like this.
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I was in my office one day and a friend of mine,
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Who is the president of tyndale house, ron beers,
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Called and said that they wanted to do this book project
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Where we would answer 25 questions about the nativity,
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And we brought our team together and worked on it,
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And "why the nativity?" was the result.
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Sheila: a project like this, i've never seen anything
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Quite like this, was a daunting task for you
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And for your amazing staff to even begin a project like this.
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Dr. jeremiah: i think a lot of times, if we knew
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At the beginning what it was going to take
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For us to get to the end, we might have said,
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"you know, let's don't do this."
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But we had a great sense of what this could mean.
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And we have a guy on our staff named paul joiner,
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Who has a background in this and knows a lot about it,
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And we had no doubt that if we got everything together,
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Paul could pull it off.
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Sheila: now, thinking about the timeline,
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You start a project like this and then covid hits.
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How did that impact things?
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Dr. jeremiah: sheila, that was so discouraging
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Because we had just gotten a sense of momentum.
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All of these sets are built--not here,
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The facades are built in different places.
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And that we'd got started, and then we started getting
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Messages back: we don't have any workers.
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Nobody can come to work.
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And so we had to shut it all down,
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And we didn't know what to do.
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We just sort of said, "well,
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Let's try to get through covid and see what happens."
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Sheila: were you ever tempted to just give up
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Because it was too overwhelming?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, if you were among the inner circle
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Of this group, you would know there was a meeting one day
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In the conference room.
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We were about halfway into our budget
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And we had half way to go.
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It's kind of like you're in the middle of the lake
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And it's as far to the other side
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As it is to go back where you started.
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And we had this discussion, and i remember there were
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Some tears in that meeting.
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I'll never forget it.
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For a moment we thought, "maybe this isn't going to happen."
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And then i remember saying,
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"look, we've never started anything in the past
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That we didn't finish, and we're going to finish this.
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I don't know how we're going to finish it,
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But we're going to finish it.
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So let's quit talking about not finishing it.
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Let's finish this."
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And we all took a deep breath and began part two.
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Sheila: that's why you're such a visionary leader.
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You need someone to stand up and say, "no, we're burning
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The ships behind us and we're going forward."
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I think that's marvelous.
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I wondered how working on a project like this
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Has maybe impacted all that.
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I mean, there's been so many people working on this.
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How has it impacted those?
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Dr. jeremiah: you know, sheila, there's so many stories
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About people whose lives have been impacted.
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One of the things that i think is really cool is
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That we have used some people in the set
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Who aren't from our faith, people who are
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Just really good actors and actresses.
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And we used a lot of technical people
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That they aren't from our church and they don't know who we are,
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But they've come on this set and they've seen
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The love of jesus in the lives of our people,
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And it's had an amazing impact on them.
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And we hear this almost every day,
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That god is in this because he's in the people
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That are doing it.
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Sheila: one of the things that i see happening,
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And perhaps you have too, is-- like, i remember one year
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My husband and i put a nativity scene in our yard
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And one of our neighbors complained,
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And it seems to be happening more and more often.
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Have you seen that, and is that why this is so important?
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Dr. jeremiah: there's a joke that goes around
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That if you have a baby jesus, you need to put a gps in him
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'cause they'd come and steal him, and that's true.
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We actually had a nativity scene on our campus at shadow mountain
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And somebody stole baby jesus out of the manger,
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And then they put up a lot of fuss over it, you know.
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I think we might have kind of gotten
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Through that phase; we had that.
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They're on to assaulting other things now, but they've
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Kind of left that alone.
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And many of us have just said,
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"okay, we're going to double down and do it more
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And make it more visible."
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Sheila: so i just want to let people know
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A few of the statistics to make sure i got it all right,
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'cause this is fascinating to me.
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So "why the nativity?" is an original screenplay
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With an original score created from creative people
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On your staff and from the television and film industry,
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Employing more than 1,000 people during this production,
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With more than 100 roles, 19 of them children and animals.
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And they know what you say about working with children
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And animals, but we decided we would just do that anyway.
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And it will be aired on networks and streaming platforms
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Everywhere this christmas and for christmases to come.
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So much effort and creativity has gone into this, and i guess
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My bottom line question is, why?
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Dr. jeremiah: there's always been something
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About turning point.
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It's in the dna here that we want to do things
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Nobody's ever done before.
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Nobody's ever done anything quite like this as a ministry.
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I mean, we're certainly not going to say
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That we've done something that is better
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Than anything else, but we've done something unique
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For a ministry and we've done it with our own people primarily
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Leading the way and--under paul's leadership
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And my son david, who has been very much involved
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In the administration of all of this.
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We started, and i don't think we realized how big
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This would end up being.
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You take a step and then you take the next step
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And everything continues to multiply till all of a sudden
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You look up and you walk into this place
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Where we are tonight and it's hard to comprehend,
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It's hard to believe.
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Sheila: yeah, as i said, this will be aired
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On various networks and streaming platforms,
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But something very exciting is going to happen
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In washington, dc.
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Tell us about that.
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Dr. jeremiah: well, you know, there's a wonderful ministry
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There called the museum of the bible,
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And they have grabbed hold of this
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And they're going to show it during the christmas season.
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You know, sheila, there's something to be said
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About doing projects, that when they're done,
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They're so amazing that only god can get the credit.
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Sheila: i love that.
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Dr. jeremiah: and that's what i think is happening here.
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I mean, we all worked hard, we know we had a part in this,
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But this is not something that humanity can pull off.
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If god were not in this, we couldn't be doing
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What we're doing.
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Sheila: wow.
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In describing the motivation behind this incredible docudrama
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"why the nativity," you talk about the nativity
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As being the pivotal moment in human history.
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Dr. jeremiah: well, sheila, when jesus entered this world,
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Everything changed, even the calendars;
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And the people forget that.
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You know, do you believe in jesus?
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Well, you have to believe that something happened,
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Because everything changed.
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We who are christians know that he came to change us,
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But he also changed the world and he brought hope
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Where there wasn't any hope.
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He brought peace into hostility.
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Yes, the coming of jesus christ into this world was
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The watershed of history.
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Sheila: you are known, loved, and respected because of the--
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Your teaching on biblical prophecy.
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But when we look at the nativity,
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It didn't start there, did it?
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It started thousands of years ago.
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Why were the prophets so important?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, 700 years before, people
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Like micah and isaiah, jeremiah, started to talk
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About the coming of the messiah.
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"the messiah is going to come."
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Isaiah said that a virgin will be with child.
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That child is going to be called emmanuel,
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And the hope of the messiah was in the heart
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Of the jewish people.
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They misunderstood who he was and many perhaps even still
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Struggle with that, but he was the messiah who would come
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Also to be the redeemer.
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The prophets talked about it.
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In fact, i just was reminded yesterday in something
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I was reading that there are 316 prophecies
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That were literally fulfilled in the first coming
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Of jesus christ, and you can trace them
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In the bible and in history.
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Sheila: stay tuned; we'll be right back with more
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About "why the nativity," the docudrama film
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From dr. david jeremiah.
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Announcer: every year, millions of people
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Around the globe celebrate christmas,
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But what does it all mean?
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Why did god choose a young woman named mary
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And a simple carpenter named joseph to bring
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His only son into the world?
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Why was the son of god born in a lowly manger
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In a small town called bethlehem,
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And what does the nativity story mean for us today?
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Explore the powerful truths beyond these questions
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And more in "why the nativity?"
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Drawing from both the old and new testaments,
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Noted pastor and theologian dr. david jeremiah provides
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Answers to 25 of the most thought-provoking questions
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Surrounding the most pivotal moment in human history:
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The birth of jesus christ.
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Sheila: thank you for joining us.
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I'm sheila walsh, here again to talk with dr. david jeremiah
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About his docudrama film, "why the nativity?"
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One of the things that i have often wondered was
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Why did god pick that particular time
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In human history for jesus to be born?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, you know, if you study history,
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You realize that it was jesus or oblivion.
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History was at a very, very challenging point.
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The romans were in charge.
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They were running the world.
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They aren't called the iron legions of rome
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For nothing.
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There was also some other things that were going on.
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For instance, rome had kind of united the world
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So it would make it possible for the message to be shared,
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And greek had become almost like english is in the world.
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And so at that particular time, at a time of great need
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And darkness, at a time when the message
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Could be received and could go quickly to other parts
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Of the world, the bible says in the fullness of time,
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God sent forth his son.
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What a great message.
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Sheila: wow, so, i'd love to talk
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About the central characters of the nativity.
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Let's talk about mary.
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Why did god choose this particular young woman
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To be the mother of the son of god?
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Dr. jeremiah: i'm not sure that we will ever know
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All of the reasons for that, but what we know about her is
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She was a godly young woman.
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She was certainly among the many women in israel
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Who thought they might one day be the mother of the messiah.
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That was a hope that was kind of in the hearts
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Of many young women.
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When gabriel came and told her that she was the one,
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It must have been quite a shock to her.
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I don't think she was expecting it.
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I don't think she was-- felt she was qualified.
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Her songs that she created and the way she responded to it
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Tells you she was a very humble person,
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And i always think about that one phrase
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That she had when she heard it.
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She said, "be it unto me according to your word."
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That was her heart.
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She was ready to receive whatever god wanted
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To do for her.
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Sheila: one of my favorite depictions
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In the movie is the way that joseph is depicted.
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You show so beautifully that they were very much in love,
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Young teenagers very much in love.
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But they were about to get married.
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They were betrothed, which was a very serious thing,
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And then suddenly mary is with child.
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Why did god choose joseph?
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He had to be quite a special man.
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Dr. jeremiah: you know, i have a sermon that i've preached
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A couple of times during the christmas season
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Called "the forgotten man of christmas,"
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Because joseph is sort of like a walk-on player
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And then after the christmas story,
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He's never heard from again.
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He just walks off the stage and he disappears into the world.
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But joseph was a man who was willing
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To do what god wanted him to do, and he didn't have to be
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In the center of the story.
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He was a supportive man, worked in a carpenter shop,
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And obviously loved mary much.
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I mean, he passed the test of love
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When he found out that she was pregnant
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And he knew it wasn't because of him
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And yet here she is, with child, and she says that it happened
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In a certain way, a way that had never been responsible
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For a child to ever be born before in history.
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She was with child of the holy spirit,
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And the angel came and told him that
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And god granted him the faith to believe it,
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And he lived it and he protected her.
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And he wasn't the center of the story, but he was
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Really the most important next character in the story.
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Sheila: talking about that, why was a virgin birth
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So important, that mary had never been with a man?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, the messiah had to be perfect.
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He had to be the perfect son of god,
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And he also had to be human.
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And if he had gotten his humanity
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The way we get ours, he would also have sin in his life.
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So he had to come into humanity without the agency
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Of a sinful human being.
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And so he was born of mary, but he was born
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Of the holy spirit so that he could be
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The sinless son of god.
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Sheila: so why bethlehem?
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Not the most auspicious.
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I mean, it wasn't jerusalem.
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Why was it important that he was born in bethlehem?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, the bible said that he would be--
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Bethlehem ephrathah would be his home.
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But, you know, bethlehem was a pretty special place.
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Rachel was buried there, and so were--
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Ruth and naomi were buried there,
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And bethlehem has a really cool name.
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The word bethlehem means "house of bread,"
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And jesus christ came to be the bread of life.
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He was born there, obviously, because he happened to be there
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When taxation was going on, registration was going on.
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And i remember reading somewhere that if mary had been pregnant
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With jesus one month before that,
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He would have been born here.
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If she had been pregnant one month after that,
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He would have been born here.
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But she was pregnant with jesus at such a time
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That when the census took place, he would be in bethlehem,
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Thus fulfilling the prophecy of the old testament prophets.
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Sheila: and the place where he was born,
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I love the way it's depicted.
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It's like in a cold, kind of dusty cave,
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Not a palace.
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Dr. jeremiah: as you think about that and some of the other
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Aspects of the birth of jesus, sheila, god went out of his way
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To put the gospel on the lower shelf
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So that everyone could feel welcome.
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I mean, he wasn't born, as you said, in a palace.
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Had he been born in a palace, then some people
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Might have thought that he was only for the aristocracy.
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But he was born in a stable so that the least
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Among all of us could be accepted.
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And we'll talk about that, i'm sure, in a few moments,
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About the shepherds, but that's why he did that.
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He came so that no matter who we are, or what we've done,
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Or where we've been, or how we may even
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Think of ourselves, he is for us and he is available
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And he's reachable.
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Sheila: i think the depiction of the shepherds might even be
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One of my very favorite moments because they were
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Looked down on, they were despised, they were nobodies.
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Dr. jeremiah: you know what, i've done a lot of homework
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On the shepherds.
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A shepherd was so despised, they were not allowed to be
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A witness in court.
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They were not allowed in the temple.
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They couldn't worship.
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So jesus chose the least of all people to whom
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He would first reveal himself as the messiah.
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The shepherds remind us of how much god loves us,
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How much he loves all of us.
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And i would just stop and say at this moment,
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Maybe somebody's watching this interview and you think,
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You know, "i'd like to be a christian,
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But i'm probably not good enough."
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You don't have to be good enough to be a christian.
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You just have to be willing to let god's goodness
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Invade your life as he did.
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Sheila: yeah, when those who were the least likely
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To be invited to the party became the only ones invited
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To the party, that's just the heart of god.
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So let's talk about the kings.
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There was the silk road from china.
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There was the spice road from africa.
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So many people coming to jerusalem.
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I mean, just coming from all over the world.
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Why a star?
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Why was that important?
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Dr. jeremiah: the star led them in a way that violated
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The way stars move.
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The star wasn't going in the right direction
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As far as the universe is concerned, and it was
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Obviously a miraculous star.
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I mean, i've heard all of the stories
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About how it was this and that and how this came together
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And--but it wasn't an accident.
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It was god's star.
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It was god's miraculous star to bring the wise men
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To where they could worship the lord, and the wise men
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Tell us that he's also here for the aristocratic
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And for those who are in the higher level.
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Sometimes they're harder to reach than the shepherds.
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Sheila: that's true.
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Dr. jeremiah: and they came to worship,
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And they picture the importance of worshiping jesus.
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So many times in the christmas scene,
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The shepherds and the wise men appear together,
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But they were never together.
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The wise men came maybe two years later,
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And they came from a long way.
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Their journey was an arduous journey.
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They came to worship the lord with the determination
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That most of us don't have, and they came bearing gifts
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To the lord jesus to express their love,
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And obviously because they believed
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In the prophecy and that it was being fulfilled.
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Sheila: why those specific gifts:
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The gold, frankincense, and myrrh?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, those gifts are really significant.
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Gold obviously is the gift of the king.
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I think when they opened that treasure,
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Nobody had to ask what that's all about.
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This is a kingly gift.
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Frankincense was an aroma that was very familiar to people
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Who went to the temple.
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So when you've smelled frankincense, you felt
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Like you were in the temple.
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I know that--i was thinking about that today
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When i was reading over this, that sometimes certain smells
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Remind you of a place.
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Like, for instance, i'll just tell you this.
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We stayed one time in a hotel that had an incredible aroma.
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When you walk in the door, it was just like--
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And i asked my wife, "what is that?"
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And believe it or not, we went to the gift shop
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And they sold it.
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They sold the aroma, and i bought some of it
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And i brought it home.
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And it was a candle.
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And every time we would light that candle, i would think
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Of that hotel.
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And i think that's what frankincense meant.
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Frankincense was a very powerful aroma.
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And then of course, myrrh was the surprising one
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Because myrrh is an embalming fluid,
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And it was a picture of the coming death of jesus.
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I'm not really sure how much they understood about that.
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Probably not as much as we think or maybe as much as we write
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Into the script for them, but it was nonetheless
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A powerful reminder that jesus one day would be wrapped
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As a mummy and myrrh would be between the cloth
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That he was wrapped in.
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Sheila: the one person who was not happy
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About the arrival of the baby was king herod.
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Why was he so afraid?
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Dr. jeremiah: he was ticked off, and many people don't know
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That herod was at the end of his life when this happened.
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He was a very sick man.
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He was very paranoid.
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He was trying to rule the jews, and he wasn't doing
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All that great.
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His job was to keep the jews in line for rome.
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He struggled a lot.
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And then one day these guys come to town and they say,
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"we are come to find the king of the jews.
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Can you tell us where he is?"
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And he's the king of the jews and here's people telling him,
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"there's another king of the jews."
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And he doesn't like that at all.
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So he tried to seduce them into ultimately revealing to him
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Who the king of the jews was that they were looking for,
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And you know the rest of the story.
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Sheila: yeah, okay, some rapid fire questions.
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I'm just going to give you a name, and tell us
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A bite-sized thought on each.
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What do we learn from mary?
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Dr. jeremiah: i learn the humility of this woman.
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"lord, i don't understand all this;
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Nobody can ever explain it to me.
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I'm 15 years old, but be it unto me
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According to your word."
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Sheila: what about joseph?
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Dr. jeremiah: joseph is the steady, faithful man
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Who believed god against all odds.
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He had to believe a story that nobody else
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Would ever have believed apart from the input of the angel.
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Sheila: what do we take from the shepherds' story?
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Dr. jeremiah: the shepherds remind us
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That god's love reaches to the least of all,
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And that they can come to christ.
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Sheila: and what about the wise men?
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Dr. jeremiah: and the wise men tell us the other story,
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That god loves us.
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He loves the most among us and the least among us,
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And he loves us all the same.
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Sheila: i want to ask you about--at the end of your book
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"why the nativity," which i read again,
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And it's fabulous.
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But you end by asking three questions, which i love.
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So let's talk about the last three questions in the book.
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Why did jesus come?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, you know, he tells us in the bible
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Why he came.
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He said, "i have come to seek and to save that which is lost."
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And his life for us who are believers
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Is the life of christ is the abundant life.
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Sheila: and why must he come again?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, first of all, he said he would.
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Sheila: yes, amen.
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Dr. jeremiah: and interestingly enough, i said there were
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316 prophecies of his first coming.
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There are more than three times that many prophecies
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Of his second coming.
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He's coming again to ultimately fulfill his purpose
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And bring peace to this earth, to gather his people to himself
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To those who have put their trust in him,
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To serve his kingdom, and then forever to be with him.
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Sheila: let me just ask for anyone who's watching this.
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Why is it so important that they believe in jesus?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, jesus proves by his life and his ministry--
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By the way, not just from biblical proof
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But from secular proof.
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I've been doing a project where much of the information is
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From a historian by the name of josephus,
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Who was highly regarded.
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And he came to fulfill the prophecies concerning him
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In the old testament, and he said himself,
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"i have come to do your will, o god."
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So he came to fulfill the will of his father,
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And his purpose was to pay the penalty for our sin
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So that we could believe in him, and he said,
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"i am the way, the truth, and the life.
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And if you want to come to the father,
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You have to come through me, because i am the bridge
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Between heaven and earth."
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He was 100% god and 100% man, the only one who could do
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What needed to be done in bringing us together
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For forgiveness and redemption.
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So if you don't believe in him, there's no plan b.
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There's only one plan.
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Sheila: there's one scene in the movie that i think
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More than anything i've ever seen before
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Perfectly depicts john 3:16, and that's when the three kings
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Leave after having been with the very young jesus
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And they're in the streets and they're with the people.
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It so clearly shows god so loves the whole world.
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It's a powerful scene.
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A lot of people think, "well, that's good for you,
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But what does god feel about me?"
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Dr. jeremiah: the bible tells us the story,
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And the result of putting one's faith in christ
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Is quite evident to anyone who wants to really examine it.
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It's not an isolated story.
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For all these many years since he came,
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Hundreds of thousands of people have put their trust in christ.
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He is the truth.
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If you put your trust in him, he will do for you
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What he's done for all those who put the trust in him.
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And let me just cover one little thought about this,
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Because i've been thinking about this a lot lately.
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So many people say, "well, that's not my truth,
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That's your truth; i don't believe in that."
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But the truth of jesus is true for everyone everywhere always.
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It's not implicated by how we respond to it.
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Some people give you the impression that
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Since they don't believe in it, it isn't true.
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You cannot make the truth of jesus untrue
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By simply saying, "i don't accept it."
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He is the truth.
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If you want to know the truth, the bible says in john
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You can know the truth.
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The bible says god will reveal himself
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To anyone who truly wants to know the truth.
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So if you're talking about this in your own heart
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Or with your friends, ask yourself this question:
00:28:31.526 --> 00:28:34.662
Do i want to just perpetuate my disbelief,
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Or do i really want to know the truth?
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Because if you want to know the truth
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And you follow the spirit's direction
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In your life, you will come to the truth.
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Announcer: and now join us for a behind-the-scenes look
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At the message and mission of david jeremiah's
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"why the nativity?"
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Paul joiner: so "why the nativity?"
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Came to be after looking at dr. jeremiah's book,
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"why the nativity?" and knowing that dr. jeremiah
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Always wanted to do a film-- a feature film for television.
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And so we felt that christmas would be the perfect time
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To release something like that, something different,
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Something that people would watch.
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Not just one time, but possibly could be a tradition
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Year after year.
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So we thought "why the nativity?"
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Be that perfect vehicle.
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So we took the book, and dr. jeremiah is the host
00:31:43.318 --> 00:31:48.589
Of this docudrama film, and the words pretty much
00:31:48.589 --> 00:31:51.826
Come out of the book.
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But we created a larger storyline to encompass
00:31:53.328 --> 00:31:56.597
More of christmas than probably what people have seen before.
00:31:56.597 --> 00:31:59.801
Dr. jeremiah: one day i was sitting in my office,
00:31:59.801 --> 00:32:01.202
And one of our publishers called me.
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It was a friend of mine.
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He said, "hey, we're thinking about doing
00:32:04.339 --> 00:32:05.840
This book on christmas, and what we want to do is
00:32:05.840 --> 00:32:09.010
Take the key elements of christmas and put them
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Into short little chapters.
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We need 25 chapters, and we need them in 3 weeks."
00:32:13.147 --> 00:32:17.585
And i thought, "you got to be kidding me."
00:32:17.585 --> 00:32:19.754
But, you know, if you really get started
00:32:19.754 --> 00:32:21.089
And you believe in something, the good news was
00:32:21.089 --> 00:32:22.790
I'd preached on almost all of those.
00:32:22.790 --> 00:32:25.393
So it wasn't like going to research new material,
00:32:25.393 --> 00:32:28.229
It was taking things i'd already studied
00:32:28.229 --> 00:32:29.897
And finding ways to abridge them and put them in a chapter
00:32:29.897 --> 00:32:34.035
So that they would fit into this category, so we did
00:32:34.035 --> 00:32:38.006
25 "why the nativity?" chapters and we made the deadline.
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It was amazing.
00:32:42.176 --> 00:32:43.778
For me as a pastor, i think christmas is special
00:32:43.778 --> 00:32:46.881
Because the message of the birth of christ
00:32:46.881 --> 00:32:49.450
Is the seed of the gospel.
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It's the good news.
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You know, easter is fraught with the death of christ,
00:32:53.588 --> 00:32:56.657
Which is by itself is sad, and the resurrection
00:32:56.657 --> 00:32:59.260
Makes it glorious; but christmas is
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Totally positive in terms of the birth of a child,
00:33:02.330 --> 00:33:07.101
The coming of the redeemer,
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People gathering from every walk of life to observe,
00:33:08.736 --> 00:33:12.306
The angels, the shepherds.
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There isn't a better story that you can ever tell.
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Paul: to film a historical piece you have to go someplace
00:33:16.811 --> 00:33:19.447
That looks like the time, so, going back to the 1st century,
00:33:19.447 --> 00:33:22.283
And with the sets and the costumes and all that
00:33:22.283 --> 00:33:26.621
Takes to film a 1st century piece,
00:33:26.621 --> 00:33:29.657
The scope got quite big quite fast.
00:33:29.657 --> 00:33:32.126
But we knew that if we were going to do something
00:33:32.126 --> 00:33:34.195
That was memorable, we had to, like, answer that call
00:33:34.195 --> 00:33:36.931
Of doing something big.
00:33:36.931 --> 00:33:38.299
So with a little bit of thought and prayer,
00:33:38.299 --> 00:33:41.235
We just went after it.
00:33:41.235 --> 00:33:42.570
Denitsa bliznakova: we really had to look
00:33:42.570 --> 00:33:43.905
Into various historical periods, cultures, people.
00:33:43.905 --> 00:33:47.708
Of course, we have the lead characters of mary
00:33:47.708 --> 00:33:50.344
And joseph and jesus and gabriel.
00:33:50.344 --> 00:33:53.214
And so this is such a well-known story, you know,
00:33:53.214 --> 00:33:57.585
That is known all across the world
00:33:57.585 --> 00:33:59.787
To all around the world, that immediately i felt
00:33:59.787 --> 00:34:01.923
A little bit of a pressure to step up to do my research,
00:34:01.923 --> 00:34:05.793
To also see how the story has been presented to people
00:34:05.793 --> 00:34:08.796
In the past, in the present, right, and then draw from that.
00:34:08.796 --> 00:34:13.534
Paul: and we hired a team design build,
00:34:13.534 --> 00:34:16.304
Who helped create and design this whole set,
00:34:16.304 --> 00:34:19.040
And we painstakingly laid it out so it would all work
00:34:19.040 --> 00:34:23.077
With all the different shots.
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Chris patterson: it was a set that was built
00:34:25.947 --> 00:34:27.315
For turning point, and it's one of a kind.
00:34:27.315 --> 00:34:30.618
The only one like it, and it's beautiful.
00:34:30.618 --> 00:34:32.220
And what i've liked about shooting here
00:34:32.220 --> 00:34:34.021
Is that it's contained.
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You can shoot almost 360 degrees.
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Joe cashman, his team just crushed it
00:34:38.426 --> 00:34:40.761
Putting this place together.
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Travis, art department, props; they did a great job
00:34:42.263 --> 00:34:44.832
Dressing it.
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Paul: so in "why the nativity?" you see bethlehem
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Four different times.
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You see it at the decree,
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You see it at the birth of christ months later,
00:34:51.005 --> 00:34:53.441
And then you see it when the kings show up,
00:34:53.441 --> 00:34:55.776
And then you see it many, many, many years later,
00:34:55.776 --> 00:34:58.146
30 years later.
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So we have to show the same city four different times.
00:34:59.580 --> 00:35:02.783
So that means it has to look a little different each time.
00:35:02.783 --> 00:35:05.586
Now, the construction of the buildings don't change,
00:35:05.586 --> 00:35:08.890
But props continually have to be recycled and removed and retired
00:35:08.890 --> 00:35:13.928
Once they've been keyed.
00:35:13.928 --> 00:35:15.696
Takes a good plan to make the same city look
00:35:15.696 --> 00:35:18.900
A little different each time.
00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:20.535
It could be as simple as placing fires in different places
00:35:20.535 --> 00:35:23.070
Or hanging the items from stores and markets
00:35:23.070 --> 00:35:25.940
In a different place.
00:35:25.940 --> 00:35:27.275
Some people may not notice it at all, but a lot of people
00:35:27.275 --> 00:35:29.577
Would notice it.
00:35:29.577 --> 00:35:31.012
There is maybe a subconscious shift
00:35:31.012 --> 00:35:32.580
In your mind, like, it looks a little bit different.
00:35:32.580 --> 00:35:34.615
I think it's super important.
00:35:34.615 --> 00:35:36.250
We've been working on this film for about 2 1/2 years.
00:35:36.250 --> 00:35:38.719
So we have employed, i think, over 1,500 people for the show
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:42.490
In different areas of southern california.
00:35:42.490 --> 00:35:45.493
We have had over 103 named characters set.
00:35:45.493 --> 00:35:50.965
We have had background anywhere from 3 to 75, 80
00:35:50.965 --> 00:35:55.736
Any given day.
00:35:55.736 --> 00:35:57.872
It has been a lot of different people
00:35:57.872 --> 00:36:00.241
On this backlot and in our locations putting
00:36:00.241 --> 00:36:03.244
This whole piece together so it looks believable
00:36:03.244 --> 00:36:05.546
And it looks authentic.
00:36:05.546 --> 00:36:07.415
Chris: production has been super cool on this job.
00:36:07.415 --> 00:36:09.517
We've been able to get cranes, sliders, steadicam full time.
00:36:09.517 --> 00:36:14.789
We have dolly full time.
00:36:14.789 --> 00:36:16.591
It's pretty amazing. multiple cameras.
00:36:16.591 --> 00:36:18.593
Two cameras for the whole run of the show.
00:36:18.593 --> 00:36:20.628
We had a third camera for about three weeks
00:36:20.628 --> 00:36:22.363
Of the show.
00:36:22.363 --> 00:36:23.698
So it's been put together really great.
00:36:23.698 --> 00:36:25.266
We're just kind of rocking.
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You can do a lot when you have all the tools
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And the personnel that know how to use the tools,
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And that's what turning point studios
00:36:31.305 --> 00:36:33.174
Has basically provided to make this film.
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Here's the thing; with locations, you know,
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There's different variables.
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You get to a location, it might be beautiful,
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But here are the factors.
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How hard is it to get equipment in there?
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And that kind of tells you right there,
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What are you actually going to use for this.
00:36:46.420 --> 00:36:48.489
You may not be able to get a dolly in there,
00:36:48.489 --> 00:36:50.191
So maybe a steadicam or maybe it's just sticks in the slider.
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And then you got to also factor in time of day, you know,
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Because if you can't really light it up,
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Hopefully that sun's going to be backlight for you.
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And then after that, you know, we got very western.
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We ended up in thousand oaks up in the hills,
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And that was beautiful up there.
00:37:04.171 --> 00:37:06.540
A couple of difficult spots.
00:37:06.540 --> 00:37:08.109
Again, just, how do you get equipment into location,
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That was always an issue there.
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Not a major one but, you know, it kind of simplified things,
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But at the same time we got some really beautiful stuff
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Just because of that.
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♪♪♪
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Paul: there are many christmas shows out there.
00:37:28.396 --> 00:37:31.365
So one of the questions we first had to ask ourself,
00:37:31.365 --> 00:37:33.567
"if we do a christmas show, a christmas film,
00:37:33.567 --> 00:37:36.037
Why do another one?
00:37:36.037 --> 00:37:37.672
It's a familiar story.
00:37:37.672 --> 00:37:39.307
Everyone knows the plotline.
00:37:39.307 --> 00:37:41.208
Everyone knows what's going to happen in the end.
00:37:41.208 --> 00:37:43.210
So why do one?"
00:37:43.210 --> 00:37:44.578
And that was a huge question we had to answer.
00:37:44.578 --> 00:37:46.480
We felt that we could put a little more creativity
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:49.350
In the story, we could put a little bit more
00:37:49.350 --> 00:37:51.719
Imagination into a story that's pretty down pat.
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.222
I mean, not only do you see the story on television
00:37:55.222 --> 00:37:57.491
Every year, but you see it at your church
00:37:57.491 --> 00:37:59.226
Or in a christmas play downtown and it's the same cast
00:37:59.226 --> 00:38:01.929
Of like nine characters.
00:38:01.929 --> 00:38:04.398
We felt like we could add a lot more to the story,
00:38:04.398 --> 00:38:07.335
Drop in a little bit of imagination,
00:38:07.335 --> 00:38:09.603
Make it a little more provocative in the storyline
00:38:09.603 --> 00:38:12.540
So people would take a new look at christmas.
00:38:12.540 --> 00:38:14.542
That was the goal, was to say, "let's take a look
00:38:14.542 --> 00:38:16.711
At christmas again, and not just present
00:38:16.711 --> 00:38:19.547
The same story but a story that makes you stop and think
00:38:19.547 --> 00:38:22.750
A little broader about what it was
00:38:22.750 --> 00:38:24.618
To have jesus born in bethlehem."
00:38:24.618 --> 00:38:26.954
I think a lot of storytelling is adding specific nuances
00:38:26.954 --> 00:38:31.092
To a story that make you stop and think,
00:38:31.092 --> 00:38:34.962
"i never thought about that.
00:38:34.962 --> 00:38:36.364
That's possibly the way it went.
00:38:36.364 --> 00:38:38.566
What would i do in that situation?"
00:38:38.566 --> 00:38:40.501
So our nuanced characters were created to drop in
00:38:40.501 --> 00:38:42.636
Those moments so you wouldn't just say,
00:38:42.636 --> 00:38:44.939
"oh yeah, mary and joseph,
00:38:44.939 --> 00:38:46.574
Oh yeah, the baby, the shepherds,"
00:38:46.574 --> 00:38:49.143
But to stop and experience christmas yourself
00:38:49.143 --> 00:38:51.412
For the first time through the eyes and lives
00:38:51.412 --> 00:38:53.381
Of these nuanced characters.
00:38:53.381 --> 00:38:54.882
But we also added a lot of nuance moments
00:38:54.882 --> 00:38:57.518
That are foreshadowing of what jesus would have
00:38:57.518 --> 00:39:00.254
In his life.
00:39:00.254 --> 00:39:01.589
I can think of a few, like when mary first comes
00:39:01.589 --> 00:39:03.557
To bethlehem, she's sitting at the well waiting
00:39:03.557 --> 00:39:06.427
For her husband to find a place for them to stay.
00:39:06.427 --> 00:39:08.562
And as she's sitting there observing the whole town,
00:39:08.562 --> 00:39:12.032
She notices a blacksmith.
00:39:12.032 --> 00:39:13.501
He's really tough and mean and angry.
00:39:13.501 --> 00:39:15.669
In our story, he represents the people
00:39:15.669 --> 00:39:18.706
Who are not welcoming, and he's sitting there
00:39:18.706 --> 00:39:21.876
In his blacksmith shop working and what he's doing,
00:39:21.876 --> 00:39:24.245
He's making nails.
00:39:24.245 --> 00:39:25.913
And they're not small nails, they're large nails.
00:39:25.913 --> 00:39:27.915
And as he's making them, he's tossing them
00:39:27.915 --> 00:39:29.450
And throwing them to the ground.
00:39:29.450 --> 00:39:30.818
And he looks up at mary, and she looks back at him.
00:39:30.818 --> 00:39:34.054
He throws his last nail, which is the third nail.
00:39:34.054 --> 00:39:36.891
And so in that moment, it's a nuanced moment
00:39:36.891 --> 00:39:39.927
That we don't know there's a blacksmith
00:39:39.927 --> 00:39:42.930
That had an encounter with mary in the square,
00:39:42.930 --> 00:39:45.633
But we put that in because when she sees
00:39:45.633 --> 00:39:48.402
Those three nails on the ground, it's a little foreshadowing
00:39:48.402 --> 00:39:51.105
Of things that are going to come in the life of her son.
00:39:51.105 --> 00:39:54.341
They're sprinkled throughout the show.
00:39:54.341 --> 00:39:56.610
There are a lot of nuance moments of symbols
00:39:56.610 --> 00:40:00.381
And a white horse, flowers, swaddling clothes
00:40:00.381 --> 00:40:04.685
That are all premonitions of what will happen
00:40:04.685 --> 00:40:07.455
In the future life of jesus.
00:40:07.455 --> 00:40:12.226
Sometimes when you tell a story, the flashing forward
00:40:12.226 --> 00:40:16.964
Or flashing back really helps set the details,
00:40:16.964 --> 00:40:21.202
And it also makes the story go from just one facet
00:40:21.202 --> 00:40:24.872
To many faceted aspects of the story.
00:40:24.872 --> 00:40:29.610
So in "why the nativity?" i decided to drop in
00:40:29.610 --> 00:40:33.514
Foreshadowing of jesus's life from the baby
00:40:33.514 --> 00:40:38.185
To seeing himself years later, but the dream sequences
00:40:38.185 --> 00:40:41.822
In the foreshadowing of things to come in a dream or a vision
00:40:41.822 --> 00:40:45.826
Happen a lot to tie the larger gospel story in
00:40:45.826 --> 00:40:50.130
Of jesus as a baby.
00:40:50.130 --> 00:40:53.100
But wouldn't it be nice to understand
00:40:53.100 --> 00:40:54.535
Why jesus was born?
00:40:54.535 --> 00:40:56.670
So in that manger scene we see jesus have a flash forward
00:40:56.670 --> 00:41:01.208
Of what his life will be, and we see the work of jesus
00:41:01.208 --> 00:41:03.878
In healing the sick, and welcoming the children,
00:41:03.878 --> 00:41:07.715
And forgiving a woman, and even dying on the cross.
00:41:07.715 --> 00:41:12.186
We don't want to miss that part of why the baby came.
00:41:12.186 --> 00:41:15.489
So those were put in to say, just a reminder,
00:41:15.489 --> 00:41:19.159
It's not just about this moment, it's about the start
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.296
Of his whole life.
00:41:22.296 --> 00:41:23.797
This is the moment that starts what he's about to do.
00:41:23.797 --> 00:41:26.267
This is the beginning of his mission,
00:41:26.267 --> 00:41:27.868
Not the end of his mission.
00:41:27.868 --> 00:41:29.370
There was a little bit of concern
00:41:29.370 --> 00:41:32.540
That we would overshadow the true story,
00:41:32.540 --> 00:41:35.342
And we have tried not to do that.
00:41:35.342 --> 00:41:37.845
The nuanced characters that was a stretch for me
00:41:37.845 --> 00:41:40.014
Before we researched them was all the different kings,
00:41:40.014 --> 00:41:43.217
Their family.
00:41:43.217 --> 00:41:44.685
We found out kings would never travel by themselves,
00:41:44.685 --> 00:41:47.154
Especially if it's a two-year, three-year journey.
00:41:47.154 --> 00:41:49.690
So in this research we found out that people did take
00:41:49.690 --> 00:41:52.426
Their families and people did take guards with them.
00:41:52.426 --> 00:41:56.497
They were in for a long trip.
00:41:56.497 --> 00:41:58.198
So in our show, though you've probably never seen
00:41:58.198 --> 00:42:01.035
Kings show up with their whole families,
00:42:01.035 --> 00:42:03.137
You'll see that in ours.
00:42:03.137 --> 00:42:04.538
So it's a stretch of what you've seen before,
00:42:04.538 --> 00:42:06.607
But historically it's actually probably what truly happened
00:42:06.607 --> 00:42:10.811
When people would travel.
00:42:10.811 --> 00:42:13.213
They would take their life and travel with it.
00:42:13.213 --> 00:42:16.250
Denitsa: as a costume designer, we're always concerned
00:42:16.250 --> 00:42:18.652
With historical accuracy.
00:42:18.652 --> 00:42:20.788
Now, because of the time period, there are very few
00:42:20.788 --> 00:42:23.524
Visual references that we could actually go off,
00:42:23.524 --> 00:42:26.727
But we looked into the roman empire
00:42:26.727 --> 00:42:28.562
As well as the persian empire,
00:42:28.562 --> 00:42:30.598
Some of the ancient dynasties of china.
00:42:30.598 --> 00:42:33.334
And because the director of the project wanted
00:42:33.334 --> 00:42:36.003
The three kings to be represented
00:42:36.003 --> 00:42:38.172
In a little bit different way, he was interested
00:42:38.172 --> 00:42:41.141
In looking into one of the kings to be from china
00:42:41.141 --> 00:42:45.179
And we specifically looked into the han dynasty.
00:42:45.179 --> 00:42:48.015
So there were quite a bit of information.
00:42:48.015 --> 00:42:49.617
Actually, i was surprised myself on how many visual references
00:42:49.617 --> 00:42:52.286
We had from the period.
00:42:52.286 --> 00:42:53.921
Also what was special is that we were not only seeing
00:42:53.921 --> 00:42:56.490
The kings--the three kings, but we also saw their families
00:42:56.490 --> 00:43:00.294
And we see them in three various scenes.
00:43:00.294 --> 00:43:03.764
We see them in their own homes, when they travel,
00:43:03.764 --> 00:43:07.201
And also at the end at bethlehem when they meet the child jesus.
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♪♪♪
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Don harper: so there's a point in the story where three kings
00:43:23.384 --> 00:43:44.071
From different geographical locations, from asia,
00:43:44.071 --> 00:43:47.207
The middle east, africa-- you know, we're using
00:43:47.207 --> 00:43:50.044
Instrumentation for each of these groups
00:43:50.044 --> 00:43:54.581
And their entourage, but the-- when they actually journey
00:43:54.581 --> 00:44:00.187
To bethlehem, i've written a theme that is sort of
00:44:00.187 --> 00:44:04.358
A combination of all three of these locations.
00:44:04.358 --> 00:44:08.629
I've used all the instruments from--melded them all together
00:44:08.629 --> 00:44:11.832
Into sort of a melting pot.
00:44:11.832 --> 00:44:14.535
So it's not particularly one thing or the other.
00:44:14.535 --> 00:44:18.706
I was attracted to this project "why the nativity?"
00:44:18.706 --> 00:44:22.276
Mostly because of the story.
00:44:22.276 --> 00:44:24.178
It's an epic story.
00:44:24.178 --> 00:44:25.612
It musically covers every style i can think of,
00:44:25.612 --> 00:44:29.383
From grandiose to magical to tender.
00:44:29.383 --> 00:44:34.388
It's a love story between mary and joseph,
00:44:34.388 --> 00:44:37.658
Between god and his people.
00:44:37.658 --> 00:44:40.327
There's so much substance to it, and musically it's a treat
00:44:40.327 --> 00:44:44.898
To work on because of that.
00:44:44.898 --> 00:44:46.834
I really enjoy being involved on a spiritual level
00:44:46.834 --> 00:44:51.038
As well as a musical level with the project.
00:44:51.038 --> 00:44:54.541
So my daily work is a little bit like church.
00:44:54.541 --> 00:44:58.312
It's a little sort of my way of connecting emotionally
00:44:58.312 --> 00:45:01.682
With my creator, and those themes
00:45:01.682 --> 00:45:05.552
Need to be emotional.
00:45:05.552 --> 00:45:07.821
They need to have impact.
00:45:07.821 --> 00:45:09.890
They need to be strong enough to be developed
00:45:09.890 --> 00:45:13.460
Throughout the show to give the characters a sense
00:45:13.460 --> 00:45:16.730
Of who they are, to give a sense of place to where we are,
00:45:16.730 --> 00:45:22.136
To give importance that it deserves
00:45:22.136 --> 00:45:25.739
Because the story deserves importance.
00:45:25.739 --> 00:45:32.646
Paul: so in creating "why the nativity,"
00:45:34.648 --> 00:45:36.083
We really wanted to have some themes that the world today
00:45:36.083 --> 00:45:39.019
Could relate to.
00:45:39.019 --> 00:45:40.354
So love, young love, mission, calling, grace.
00:45:40.354 --> 00:45:47.528
So we have some themes throughout this show.
00:45:47.528 --> 00:45:49.329
We think of mary and joseph as kids.
00:45:49.329 --> 00:45:51.431
In dr. jeremiah's writings, he brings out
00:45:51.431 --> 00:45:53.801
That mary and joseph were raised in the same little town
00:45:53.801 --> 00:45:56.370
Of nazareth, so they would know each other as kids.
00:45:56.370 --> 00:45:58.305
So we see them as kids running through town.
00:45:58.305 --> 00:46:01.041
Chris: we got this crane. it's called a chapman zeus.
00:46:01.041 --> 00:46:03.610
It's built in the 1950s, and it's a classic.
00:46:03.610 --> 00:46:06.647
We got to talk, and we knew we wanted something
00:46:06.647 --> 00:46:08.515
Out here in the backlot that can be fast
00:46:08.515 --> 00:46:10.584
To get high angle shots; that came up.
00:46:10.584 --> 00:46:13.320
Turns out they have a steadicam platform for it.
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.123
We found that out and then instantly it's like,
00:46:16.123 --> 00:46:18.559
"hey, we should try some steadicam walk-offs."
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:20.794
So day one we got the crane, and guess what?
00:46:20.794 --> 00:46:23.797
Steadicam walk-off.
00:46:23.797 --> 00:46:25.132
We sent our operator up.
00:46:25.132 --> 00:46:26.633
He did a nice walk-off right into nazareth
00:46:26.633 --> 00:46:29.203
Following young mary and joseph down the street.
00:46:29.203 --> 00:46:31.572
It was pretty epic.
00:46:31.572 --> 00:46:34.241
♪♪♪
00:46:34.241 --> 00:46:54.161
Paul: we want the youth to understand that
00:46:44.151 --> 00:46:55.796
That could have been them.
00:46:55.796 --> 00:46:57.130
We want teenagers today and young people today to say,
00:46:57.130 --> 00:46:59.533
"that could be me.
00:46:59.533 --> 00:47:01.001
You know, that's how i feel about the person i love,
00:47:01.001 --> 00:47:03.270
The person i'm going to marry."
00:47:03.270 --> 00:47:05.038
But also love is about what if god called you to do
00:47:05.038 --> 00:47:08.008
Something that was pretty crazy and out of the box?
00:47:08.008 --> 00:47:10.544
Would you still love god?
00:47:10.544 --> 00:47:13.113
Would you still follow your mission?
00:47:13.113 --> 00:47:14.648
Would you still have purpose?
00:47:14.648 --> 00:47:16.016
So that's a theme, is taking these people who're so in love
00:47:16.016 --> 00:47:18.919
And so excited about what they have in the future,
00:47:18.919 --> 00:47:20.921
And all of a sudden everything's turned upside down,
00:47:20.921 --> 00:47:23.857
And now their life has changed and they've had
00:47:23.857 --> 00:47:26.860
A message from god: "this is what i want you to do."
00:47:26.860 --> 00:47:29.529
Will they do it?
00:47:29.529 --> 00:47:30.864
The bigger question is, would we do it?
00:47:30.864 --> 00:47:33.066
You know, would you or i do that if god said,
00:47:33.066 --> 00:47:35.602
"hey, i'm going to ask you to do something
00:47:35.602 --> 00:47:37.070
That's totally crazy, but this is what i want you to do."
00:47:37.070 --> 00:47:39.339
Would we do that? so that's a theme.
00:47:39.339 --> 00:47:40.841
And kings traveling across the world
00:47:40.841 --> 00:47:44.444
To see a newborn king is another--a mission, like,
00:47:44.444 --> 00:47:47.881
"i want to see the messiah."
00:47:47.881 --> 00:47:49.983
The shepherds we represent in our story,
00:47:49.983 --> 00:47:52.219
The first followers of christ, they take a risk by coming
00:47:52.219 --> 00:47:55.122
To this city when they're not allowed in the city,
00:47:55.122 --> 00:47:57.057
Even a little persecution, so they can get to the manger.
00:47:57.057 --> 00:48:00.327
So these themes are throughout,
00:48:00.327 --> 00:48:02.362
Which is love and mission and purpose.
00:48:02.362 --> 00:48:04.164
Those come through a lot of different characters,
00:48:04.164 --> 00:48:07.000
A lot of different storylines, but mainly
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:08.969
Through mary and joseph.
00:48:08.969 --> 00:48:11.872
There's this scene we have-- actually, it's right out here
00:48:11.872 --> 00:48:14.675
Behind us, and it's when all the kings have come in
00:48:14.675 --> 00:48:17.377
And they've already seen the young jesus
00:48:17.377 --> 00:48:19.379
And they've presented their gifts,
00:48:19.379 --> 00:48:21.248
And then we pick them up later at night
00:48:21.248 --> 00:48:23.150
And they're all in the square.
00:48:23.150 --> 00:48:25.319
There's tables all around.
00:48:25.319 --> 00:48:26.787
They're sharing food.
00:48:26.787 --> 00:48:28.121
They're getting to know each other.
00:48:28.121 --> 00:48:29.923
And all these different nations, africa and china and persia
00:48:29.923 --> 00:48:33.160
And the jewish people, they're all intermixed
00:48:33.160 --> 00:48:37.631
And they're all enjoying each other's company
00:48:37.631 --> 00:48:40.600
And trying to explain their journey to each other
00:48:40.600 --> 00:48:42.436
In the languages they really don't understand.
00:48:42.436 --> 00:48:44.838
And young jesus is playing with a young african prince
00:48:44.838 --> 00:48:49.443
Or a young chinese princess, and they're running
00:48:49.443 --> 00:48:51.011
Through the streets.
00:48:51.011 --> 00:48:52.412
And to me, that is one of my favorite moments
00:48:52.412 --> 00:48:54.381
In the show because, you know,
00:48:54.381 --> 00:48:56.917
The bible says, "for god so loved the world."
00:48:56.917 --> 00:48:58.785
And i think sometimes we forget about that.
00:48:58.785 --> 00:49:00.988
We think, "christmas and god is all about me," and it's not.
00:49:00.988 --> 00:49:04.291
It's really about the world.
00:49:04.291 --> 00:49:06.026
And i think in that scene, it pictures the true reason
00:49:06.026 --> 00:49:10.931
Why jesus came was for everybody no matter who you are,
00:49:10.931 --> 00:49:14.134
No matter where in this world you originate from, god--
00:49:14.134 --> 00:49:19.106
Jesus came for you, and it is something that's a gift for you.
00:49:19.106 --> 00:49:23.210
And i love that moment in the show.
00:49:23.210 --> 00:49:24.778
I've never seen that in any christmas show
00:49:24.778 --> 00:49:26.680
Before where we actually pull in the international world
00:49:26.680 --> 00:49:30.717
In one big picture and really set that stage
00:49:30.717 --> 00:49:34.488
For john 3:16.
00:49:34.488 --> 00:49:36.690
Chris: working with dwight campbell has been
00:49:36.690 --> 00:49:38.025
A real pleasure; he comes from the old school.
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He's been around a long time, has a great career.
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It's been an honor to work with him.
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He's made my life very simple.
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You know, sometimes we point the camera
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And that's what's being lit.
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Dwight understands that we're probably going to look
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A lot more when we go in for coverage,
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Look all over the place; and he knows that.
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So he pre-lights basically almost everything,
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So you can turn around and you're going to be lit
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At least 180 degrees, if not 270 degrees,
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And i think that's pretty impressive, you know.
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I mean, i remember right in the beginning of the shoot
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I was like, "hey, dwight, you think we could do this?"
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And he looked at me, he's like, "just frame up."
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And i appreciate that, and i-- that's why i was like,
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"all right, i know how we're going to roll here, cool."
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But that gives me the ability to just work with paul
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One-on-one, get the coverage for paul that we need to get,
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And trusting dwight to, you know, set the lamps
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And light it and get us to all the exposures
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We need to be.
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When i can shoot stuff, and he looks at me and says,
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"hey, man, that looked pretty good,"
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That makes me feel good.
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Again, the guy-- he lit the abyss.
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He lights just right. he doesn't over-light it.
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He keeps it a little dim,
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Keeps it right where we need to be.
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We've been--i think that's a lot of our look is due to dwight.
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And then also kevin gilt, you know, on the grip side
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Bringing his team in to, you know, camera support
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As far as just, you know, backing dwight with, you know,
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Cutting lights and shaping it.
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Paul has been amazing.
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Back in our pre-pro, we would sit there and we--
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I would sit in his office for hours, three hours at a time.
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He is so creative and such a kind person.
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And what i really noticed about him, you know, is
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The microscale of creativity.
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He knows how to work with actors.
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I like photography, but he sees small things and little details,
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Little movements of the hands, the head twist here,
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Little pieces like that.
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So paul can really focus on his actors
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And get the performance he needs out of them,
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Where he trusts me to just frame up the shot
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And get that for him.
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Paul: i feel like if we did this show
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And it's about god and it's about bringing love
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And peace to the world and we didn't have that
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As far as our team and the set, i would feel like a hypocrite.
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So if there's anything i'm proud of,
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I'm proud of that we had a great set with great people.
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Everyone got along.
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It didn't have any struggles.
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It just really feel blessed that we just really had
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A great family dynamic, and i think that's
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What christmas is about, is family
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And loving others and gifts.
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So i think the gift part for me personally was that everyone was
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So kind and cool and helpful and creative.
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I'm proud of that.
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I don't think anyone can walk away and say
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That was a bad experience.
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I hope everyone will say that was--
00:52:10.377 --> 00:52:11.778
"why the nativity?" was a great experience,
00:52:11.778 --> 00:52:13.580
And i would do that again.
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So if there's one thing i would want people to get
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Out of this particular film is to maybe see the christmas story
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With new eyes, maybe see jesus with new eyes.
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I think we all have these ideas of who jesus is, who god is,
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What the christmas story is all about;
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And we either accept it or we reject it
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Or we just don't know.
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I think every once in a while-- i think christmas is a good time
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Just to stop for a moment and say, "maybe i should reflect
00:52:46.546 --> 00:52:49.115
On this a little bit to see where i'm at, to kind of reset
00:52:49.115 --> 00:52:52.519
My spiritual life to find out if there's any greater purpose
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:54.988
Than just living each day as it comes."
00:52:54.988 --> 00:52:57.257
And i pray that when people watch "why the nativity?"
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It will be a little thought-provoking
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And it would give-- whether you're a believer
00:53:03.129 --> 00:53:06.666
Or a non-believer, you'll give jesus
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A second chance, a second thought
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And maybe just enjoy the experience
00:53:10.604 --> 00:53:14.374
As you've never before and say, you know,
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"i will take a moment and see something with fresh eyes,
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And maybe that will change me.
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Maybe that will change others."
00:53:24.384 --> 00:53:27.821
But that's what i would really hope
00:53:27.821 --> 00:53:29.422
People would get from "why the nativity?"
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Dr. jeremiah: just when people needed hope,
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God would send a baby, a king,
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To offer a foretaste of a better future.
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But why?
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Why was a virgin chosen to be the mother of jesus?
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Why would an earthly man be chosen
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To raise a baby sent from heaven?
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Why choose the lowliest of men to be the first
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To see the newborn king?
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Why did kings come from the east to worship the king of the jews?
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Why bethlehem?
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Why should we care?
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And what should the baby in bethlehem
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Mean to me?
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Dr. jeremiah: i'm david jeremiah.
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Won't you journey back with me to a faraway place
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And to a time that might otherwise be forgotten?
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Dr. jeremiah: this christmas, travel back in time
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As we answer the mystery, the meaning, and the question,
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Why the nativity?
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♪♪♪
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David Jeremiah - Why The Nativity? Interview

November 30, 2024 | S1:E1290

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