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Better Together LIVE | Episode 130

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October 23, 2020
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Better Together LIVE | Episode 130

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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: SOMEONE CUTS
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  • - LAURIE CROUCH: SOMEONE CUTSYOU OFF IN TRAFFIC.
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  • YOU OFF IN TRAFFIC.A LADY IN LINE AT THE GROCERY
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  • A LADY IN LINE AT THE GROCERYSTORE IS RUDE TO THE CASHIER.
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  • STORE IS RUDE TO THE CASHIER.WHAT IF OUR FIRST RESPONSE IS
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  • WHAT IF OUR FIRST RESPONSE ISTO ASK WHY?
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  • TO ASK WHY?FINDING COMPASSION IN THE MIDST
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  • FINDING COMPASSION IN THE MIDSTOF TENSION HELPS US BE LIKE
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  • OF TENSION HELPS US BE LIKEJESUS -- AND IT'S EASIER SAID
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  • JESUS -- AND IT'S EASIER SAIDTHAN DONE.
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  • THAN DONE.COME ON.
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  • COME ON.WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
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  • WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS.[MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC][MUSIC]
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  • [MUSIC]- HOSANNA WONG: EARLIER THIS
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  • - HOSANNA WONG: EARLIER THISMONTH, I WENT TO THE HAPPIEST
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  • MONTH, I WENT TO THE HAPPIESTPLACE ON EARTH -- WHERE I
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  • PLACE ON EARTH -- WHERE IASSUME IS MOST PEOPLE'S
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  • ASSUME IS MOST PEOPLE'SHAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH --
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  • HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH --TARGET.
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  • TARGET.AND, AS I WAS IN TARGET, I SAW
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  • AND, AS I WAS IN TARGET, I SAWTHESE TWO WOMAN AT WAR WITH
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  • THESE TWO WOMAN AT WAR WITHEACH OTHER.
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  • EACH OTHER.AND ONE OF THEM WAS AN
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  • AND ONE OF THEM WAS ANEMPLOYEE.
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  • EMPLOYEE.ONE OF THEM WAS A CUSTOMER.
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  • ONE OF THEM WAS A CUSTOMER.AND THIS SPECIFIC TARGET HAD--
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  • AND THIS SPECIFIC TARGET HAD--CHANGED THE LINE SITUATION,
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  • CHANGED THE LINE SITUATION,SOMEHOW.
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  • SOMEHOW.AND, THE CUSTOMER WAS NOT HAPPY
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  • AND, THE CUSTOMER WAS NOT HAPPYABOUT IT AND SHE LET THE
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  • ABOUT IT AND SHE LET THEEMPLOYEE KNOW IT.
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  • EMPLOYEE KNOW IT.SHE JUST SAID: "YOU NEED TO THE
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  • SHE JUST SAID: "YOU NEED TO THESIGNS BETTER!
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  • SIGNS BETTER!THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE SIGNS!
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  • THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE SIGNS!YOU NEED TO DO THE LINES
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  • YOU NEED TO DO THE LINESBETTER!"
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  • BETTER!"SHE WAS SO UPSET.
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  • SHE WAS SO UPSET.AND SHE SAYS: "YOU KNOW, YOU
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  • AND SHE SAYS: "YOU KNOW, YOUNEED TO HELP ME KNOW HOW TO DO
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  • NEED TO HELP ME KNOW HOW TO DOTHIS!
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  • THIS!I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE!"
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  • I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE!"AND THE EMPLOYEE WAS SHAKING
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  • AND THE EMPLOYEE WAS SHAKINGAND SHE RESPONDS: "FOR SURE,
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  • AND SHE RESPONDS: "FOR SURE,THERE SHOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER
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  • THERE SHOULD PROBABLY BE BETTERSIGNS.
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  • SIGNS.I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I'M
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  • I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT I'MDOING.
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  • DOING.I COULD DO THIS BETTER.
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  • I COULD DO THIS BETTER.I'M SO SORRY."
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  • I'M SO SORRY."THE CUSTOMER YELLS AT HER, ONE
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  • THE CUSTOMER YELLS AT HER, ONEMORE TIME: "YOU NEED TO DO YOUR
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  • MORE TIME: "YOU NEED TO DO YOURJOB BETTER!"
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  • JOB BETTER!"AND THEN, THE EMPLOYEE SAYS:
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  • AND THEN, THE EMPLOYEE SAYS:"I'VE ALSO NEVER DONE THIS
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  • "I'VE ALSO NEVER DONE THISBEFORE!"
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  • BEFORE!"AND AS I WAS WATCHING THESE TWO
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  • AND AS I WAS WATCHING THESE TWOWOMEN, IT WAS LIKE SEEING
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  • WOMEN, IT WAS LIKE SEEINGMYSELF IN TWO FORMS.
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  • MYSELF IN TWO FORMS.I WAS LIKE: I CAN TOTALLY
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  • I WAS LIKE: I CAN TOTALLYRELATE TO THESE TWO WOMEN.
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  • RELATE TO THESE TWO WOMEN.LIKE, ONE OF THESE WOMEN IS
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  • LIKE, ONE OF THESE WOMEN ISLIKE: WE ARE IN A SITUATION IN
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  • LIKE: WE ARE IN A SITUATION INOUR LIVES THAT WE'VE NEVER BEEN
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  • OUR LIVES THAT WE'VE NEVER BEENIN BEFORE AND OTHER PEOPLE ARE
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  • IN BEFORE AND OTHER PEOPLE ARESUPPOSED TO HELP ME.
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  • SUPPOSED TO HELP ME.AND THE OTHER GIRL WAS FEELING
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  • AND THE OTHER GIRL WAS FEELINGLIKE: MAN, I'M SUPPOSED TO BE
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  • LIKE: MAN, I'M SUPPOSED TO BEHELPING PEOPLE.
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  • HELPING PEOPLE.THIS IS MY JOB.
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  • THIS IS MY JOB.WHY DON'T I KNOW HOW TO DO THIS
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  • WHY DON'T I KNOW HOW TO DO THISBETTER?
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  • BETTER?AND, IN THAT MOMENT, I SAW
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  • AND, IN THAT MOMENT, I SAWMYSELF IN BOTH OF THESE WOMEN
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  • MYSELF IN BOTH OF THESE WOMENIN TIMES WHEN I FELT LIKE OTHER
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  • IN TIMES WHEN I FELT LIKE OTHERPEOPLE NEED TO BE HELPING ME
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  • PEOPLE NEED TO BE HELPING MEOUT, OTHER PEOPLE NEED TO BE
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  • OUT, OTHER PEOPLE NEED TO BEHELPING ME GET THROUGH THIS
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  • HELPING ME GET THROUGH THISSITUATION, THIS SEASON IN MY
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  • SITUATION, THIS SEASON IN MYLIFE.
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  • LIFE.AND I HAVE JUST AS MUCH FELT
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  • AND I HAVE JUST AS MUCH FELTLIKE THIS EMPLOYEE, LIKE...:
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  • LIKE THIS EMPLOYEE, LIKE...:MAN, I SHOULD BE HELPING PEOPLE
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  • MAN, I SHOULD BE HELPING PEOPLEBETTER.
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  • BETTER.LIKE, FOR SURE, THERE SHOULD BE
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  • LIKE, FOR SURE, THERE SHOULD BEBETTER SIGNS.
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  • BETTER SIGNS.LIKE, I'M SURE I COULD BE DOING
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  • LIKE, I'M SURE I COULD BE DOINGTHIS BETTER.
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  • THIS BETTER.WE'RE BOTH IN A REALLY HARD
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  • WE'RE BOTH IN A REALLY HARDSITUATION.
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  • SITUATION.AND AS I SAW BOTH OF THEM IN
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  • AND AS I SAW BOTH OF THEM INMYSELF, LIKE A MIRROR, THROUGH
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  • MYSELF, LIKE A MIRROR, THROUGHBOTH OF THEM, I HONESTLY
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  • BOTH OF THEM, I HONESTLYSTARTED TO THINK IN MY OWN
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  • STARTED TO THINK IN MY OWNLIFE: GOD, IN WHAT SITUATIONS
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  • LIFE: GOD, IN WHAT SITUATIONSIN MY LIFE AM I ONE OF THESE
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  • IN MY LIFE AM I ONE OF THESEWOMEN NOT SEEING THE OTHER
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  • WOMEN NOT SEEING THE OTHERWOMAN'S SIDE?
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  • WOMAN'S SIDE?LIKE, PERHAPS...PERHAPS THERE'S
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  • LIKE, PERHAPS...PERHAPS THERE'SA BETTER WAY TO COMMUNICATE
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  • A BETTER WAY TO COMMUNICATEUNDER PRESSURE.
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  • UNDER PRESSURE.PERHAPS THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO
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  • PERHAPS THERE'S A BETTER WAY TOSEE THE OTHER PERSON'S SIDE,
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  • SEE THE OTHER PERSON'S SIDE,UNDER PRESSURE.
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  • UNDER PRESSURE.LIKE: GOD, WHAT CAN I DO UNDER
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  • LIKE: GOD, WHAT CAN I DO UNDERPRESSURE SO I AM NOT ALSO
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  • PRESSURE SO I AM NOT ALSOYELLING AT STRANGERS AT TARGET?
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  • YELLING AT STRANGERS AT TARGET?LIKE: LORD PLEASE HELP ME.
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  • LIKE: LORD PLEASE HELP ME.AND I THINK IT'S A QUESTION WE
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  • AND I THINK IT'S A QUESTION WENEED TO ASK OURSELVES AND A
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  • NEED TO ASK OURSELVES AND ACONVERSATION WORTH HAVING:
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  • CONVERSATION WORTH HAVING:WHAT ARE WE DOING UNDER
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  • WHAT ARE WE DOING UNDERPRESSURE?
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  • PRESSURE?HOW ARE WE SEEING OTHER PEOPLE
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  • HOW ARE WE SEEING OTHER PEOPLEWHO COULD ALSO BE UNDER
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  • WHO COULD ALSO BE UNDERPRESSURE?
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  • PRESSURE?ARE WE STOPPING AND
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  • ARE WE STOPPING ANDCONSIDERING, "MAN, THIS PERSON
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  • CONSIDERING, "MAN, THIS PERSONMIGHT BE GRIEVING,"
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  • MIGHT BE GRIEVING,""THIS PERSON MIGHT BE
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  • "THIS PERSON MIGHT BEGOING THROUGH A HARD TIME,"
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  • GOING THROUGH A HARD TIME,""THIS TEACHER MIGHT BE
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  • "THIS TEACHER MIGHT BEHAVING A HARD TIME,"
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  • HAVING A HARD TIME,""THIS PARENT MIGHT BE
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  • "THIS PARENT MIGHT BEHAVING A HARD TIME,"
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  • HAVING A HARD TIME,""OUR PASTOR MIGHT BE
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  • "OUR PASTOR MIGHT BEHAVING A HARD TIME,"
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  • HAVING A HARD TIME,""OUR SPOUSE MIGHT BE HAVING
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  • "OUR SPOUSE MIGHT BE HAVINGA HARD TIME"?
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  • A HARD TIME"?IS THERE A PERSPECTIVE SHIFT WE
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  • IS THERE A PERSPECTIVE SHIFT WECOULD HAVE WHEN WE'RE ABOUT TO
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  • COULD HAVE WHEN WE'RE ABOUT TOBE AGGRESSIVE TOWARD SOMEONE?
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  • BE AGGRESSIVE TOWARD SOMEONE?IS THERE A WAY WE COULD,
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  • IS THERE A WAY WE COULD,PERHAPS, PAUSE AND SAY: IN THE
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  • PERHAPS, PAUSE AND SAY: IN THEMIDDLE OF THIS PRESSURE, I'M
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  • MIDDLE OF THIS PRESSURE, I'MNOT GONNA LET THE ENEMY HAVE
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  • NOT GONNA LET THE ENEMY HAVEVICTORY OVER MY EMOTIONS OR MY
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  • VICTORY OVER MY EMOTIONS OR MYAGGRESSION.
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  • AGGRESSION.I'M GONNA PAUSE AND CONSIDER:
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  • I'M GONNA PAUSE AND CONSIDER:IS THIS PERSON DOING THEIR
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  • IS THIS PERSON DOING THEIRBEST?
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  • BEST?WHAT COULD THEY BE GOING
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  • WHAT COULD THEY BE GOINGTHROUGH?
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  • THROUGH?THEN, PROCEED FROM THERE.
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  • THEN, PROCEED FROM THERE.I WONDER IF THERE'S A HEALTHIER
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  • I WONDER IF THERE'S A HEALTHIERWAY.
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  • WAY.DR. ANITA, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA
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  • DR. ANITA, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEAOF HOW THERE COULD BE A
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  • OF HOW THERE COULD BE AHEALTHIER WAY TO APPROACH THESE
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  • HEALTHIER WAY TO APPROACH THESEKIND OF HIGH-TENSE SITUATIONS?
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  • KIND OF HIGH-TENSE SITUATIONS?- DR. ANITA PHILLIPS: YOU'RE
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  • - DR. ANITA PHILLIPS: YOU'RETALKING ABOUT HAVING COMPASSION
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  • TALKING ABOUT HAVING COMPASSIONON PEOPLE, AND, THAT'S WHAT
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  • ON PEOPLE, AND, THAT'S WHATWE'RE CALLED TO DO AS
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  • WE'RE CALLED TO DO ASCHRISTIANS, RIGHT?
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  • CHRISTIANS, RIGHT?TO LOVE.
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  • TO LOVE.AND COMPASSION IS A FORM OF
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  • AND COMPASSION IS A FORM OFLOVE.
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  • LOVE.AND, IT HELPS TO DO EXACTLY
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  • AND, IT HELPS TO DO EXACTLYWHAT YOU SAID: SEE YOURSELF IN
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  • WHAT YOU SAID: SEE YOURSELF INTHE OTHER PERSON.
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  • THE OTHER PERSON.WHEN HAVE YOU CUT SOMEONE OFF
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  • WHEN HAVE YOU CUT SOMEONE OFFIN TRAFFIC?
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  • IN TRAFFIC?WHEN HAVE YOU GOTTEN FRUSTRATED
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  • WHEN HAVE YOU GOTTEN FRUSTRATEDAND SNAPPED AT SOMEBODY IN THE
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  • AND SNAPPED AT SOMEBODY IN THESTORE.
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  • STORE.PUT YOURSELF IN THAT POSITION.
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  • PUT YOURSELF IN THAT POSITION.WHAT MIGHT YOU HAVE BEEN GOING
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  • WHAT MIGHT YOU HAVE BEEN GOINGTHROUGH THAT DAY?
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  • THROUGH THAT DAY?MAYBE YOU WERE OVERTIRED.
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  • MAYBE YOU WERE OVERTIRED.MAYBE YOU JUST GOT SOME BAD
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  • MAYBE YOU JUST GOT SOME BADNEWS.
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  • NEWS.ONE OF MY NARRATIVES FOR GETTING
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  • ONE OF MY NARRATIVES FOR GETTINGCUT OFF IN TRAFFIC IS: MAYBE
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  • CUT OFF IN TRAFFIC IS: MAYBETHAT PERSON'S RUSHING TO THE
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  • THAT PERSON'S RUSHING TO THEHOSPITAL BECAUSE THEY JUST GOT
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  • HOSPITAL BECAUSE THEY JUST GOTA CALL THAT A LOVED ONE IS
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  • A CALL THAT A LOVED ONE ISSICK.
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  • SICK.MAYBE THEY ARE ANGRY AND JUST
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  • MAYBE THEY ARE ANGRY AND JUSTNOT PAYING ATTENTION.
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  • NOT PAYING ATTENTION.YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S
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  • YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'SHAPPENING.
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  • HAPPENING.AND SO, IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVE
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  • AND SO, IN ORDER FOR US TO HAVECOMPASSION, WE HAVE TO STOP
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  • COMPASSION, WE HAVE TO STOPTELLING BAD STORIES.
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  • TELLING BAD STORIES.A GOOD 70 PERCENT OF OUR LIVES
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  • A GOOD 70 PERCENT OF OUR LIVESIS IMAGINARY.
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  • IS IMAGINARY.[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]AND I SAY IT THAT WAY BECAUSE
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  • AND I SAY IT THAT WAY BECAUSEWE ARE CONSTANTLY MAKING UP
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  • WE ARE CONSTANTLY MAKING UPSTORIES IN OUR MINDS ABOUT WHY
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  • STORIES IN OUR MINDS ABOUT WHYOTHER PEOPLE DID WHAT THEY DID.
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  • OTHER PEOPLE DID WHAT THEY DID.WE ARE FILLING IN THE GAPS ON
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  • WE ARE FILLING IN THE GAPS ONTHEIR INTENTIONS.
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  • THEIR INTENTIONS.- LAURIE: WOW.
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  • - LAURIE: WOW.- DR. ANITA: AND, UNLESS WE
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  • - DR. ANITA: AND, UNLESS WEGET TO ASK THEM AND THEY HAVE
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  • GET TO ASK THEM AND THEY HAVETHE PRESENCE OF MIND AND THE
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  • THE PRESENCE OF MIND AND THEEMOTIONAL AWARENESS TO ACTUALLY
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  • EMOTIONAL AWARENESS TO ACTUALLYBE ABLE TO TELL ME, I REALLY
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  • BE ABLE TO TELL ME, I REALLYDON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MOTIVE IS.
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  • DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MOTIVE IS.AND SO, WE MAKE IT UP!
  • 00:05:01.046 --> 00:05:02.614
  • AND SO, WE MAKE IT UP!AND WE CAN MAKE-- "WELL, THAT
  • 00:05:02.614 --> 00:05:03.849
  • AND WE CAN MAKE-- "WELL, THATPERSON JUST DOESN'T LIKE THEIR
  • 00:05:03.849 --> 00:05:05.450
  • PERSON JUST DOESN'T LIKE THEIRJOB VERY MUCH."
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  • JOB VERY MUCH."OR: "THEY JUST WANTED TO HURT
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  • OR: "THEY JUST WANTED TO HURTMY FEELINGS."
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  • MY FEELINGS."AND YOU JUST-- IT'S JUST LIKE:
  • 00:05:08.687 --> 00:05:09.454
  • AND YOU JUST-- IT'S JUST LIKE:YOU'RE MAKING THAT UP.
  • 00:05:09.454 --> 00:05:10.088
  • YOU'RE MAKING THAT UP.LIKE, SO, IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE
  • 00:05:10.088 --> 00:05:11.223
  • LIKE, SO, IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKEUP A BAD STORY, MAKE UP A GOOD
  • 00:05:11.223 --> 00:05:11.656
  • UP A BAD STORY, MAKE UP A GOODSTORY.
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  • STORY.AND, UH...GO AHEAD AND HAVE
  • 00:05:13.091 --> 00:05:15.494
  • AND, UH...GO AHEAD AND HAVESOME COMPASSION.
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  • SOME COMPASSION.PUT YOURSELF IN THAT
  • 00:05:16.161 --> 00:05:16.995
  • PUT YOURSELF IN THATPOSITION,
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  • POSITION,WHAT WOULD YOU WANT SOMEONE TO
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  • WHAT WOULD YOU WANT SOMEONE TOTHINK ABOUT YOU?
  • 00:05:19.831 --> 00:05:20.999
  • THINK ABOUT YOU?'CAUSE, TOO OFTEN, WE TAKE
  • 00:05:20.999 --> 00:05:22.534
  • 'CAUSE, TOO OFTEN, WE TAKETHINGS PERSONALLY WHEN IT
  • 00:05:22.534 --> 00:05:23.902
  • THINGS PERSONALLY WHEN ITHARDLY EVER IS PERSONAL.
  • 00:05:23.902 --> 00:05:25.170
  • HARDLY EVER IS PERSONAL.USUALLY, PEOPLE ARE JUST ACTING
  • 00:05:25.170 --> 00:05:26.505
  • USUALLY, PEOPLE ARE JUST ACTINGOUT OF THE SPACE THAT THEY'RE
  • 00:05:26.505 --> 00:05:27.372
  • OUT OF THE SPACE THAT THEY'REIN AND YOU HAPPEN TO BE IN THE
  • 00:05:27.372 --> 00:05:28.940
  • IN AND YOU HAPPEN TO BE IN THELINE OF FIRE THAT DAY.
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  • LINE OF FIRE THAT DAY.SO, I THINK WE START BY MAKING
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  • SO, I THINK WE START BY MAKINGUP GOOD STORIES -- THINKING THE
  • 00:05:31.910 --> 00:05:33.945
  • UP GOOD STORIES -- THINKING THEBEST OF SOMEONE, NO MATTER
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  • BEST OF SOMEONE, NO MATTERWHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT MOMENT.
  • 00:05:35.881 --> 00:05:37.182
  • WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT MOMENT.AND WHEN WE MAKE UP GOOD
  • 00:05:37.182 --> 00:05:38.350
  • AND WHEN WE MAKE UP GOODSTORIES, WE'RE HAPPIER, TOO!
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  • STORIES, WE'RE HAPPIER, TOO!- LAURIE: I LOVE THAT.
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  • - LAURIE: I LOVE THAT.I LOVE-- YOU KNOW, THAT'S HARD
  • 00:05:42.421 --> 00:05:43.955
  • I LOVE-- YOU KNOW, THAT'S HARDTO DO, BECAUSE, SOMETIMES, YOU
  • 00:05:43.955 --> 00:05:46.291
  • TO DO, BECAUSE, SOMETIMES, YOUDEFAULT TO: THAT PERSON IS
  • 00:05:46.291 --> 00:05:47.626
  • DEFAULT TO: THAT PERSON ISJUST...STUPID.
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  • JUST...STUPID.[LAUGHS]
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  • [LAUGHS]AND I DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH
  • 00:05:50.862 --> 00:05:51.396
  • AND I DON'T WANNA DEAL WITHTHAT, RIGHT NOW.
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  • THAT, RIGHT NOW.RIGHT?
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  • RIGHT?AM I THE ONLY ONE?
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  • AM I THE ONLY ONE?NATALIE?
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  • NATALIE?- NATALIE GRANT: NOPE.
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  • - NATALIE GRANT: NOPE.- LAURIE: UM...BUT...
  • 00:05:57.803 --> 00:05:58.437
  • - LAURIE: UM...BUT...SO, I THINK-- I THINK WHAT WE
  • 00:05:58.437 --> 00:06:00.672
  • SO, I THINK-- I THINK WHAT WENEED TO DO IS DEFAULT TO LOVE.
  • 00:06:00.672 --> 00:06:01.840
  • NEED TO DO IS DEFAULT TO LOVE.YOU KNOW, JESUS SHOWED...SHOWED
  • 00:06:01.840 --> 00:06:05.377
  • YOU KNOW, JESUS SHOWED...SHOWEDUS WHAT TO DO.
  • 00:06:05.377 --> 00:06:07.612
  • US WHAT TO DO.ALL THROUGH THE SCRIPTURES, HE
  • 00:06:07.612 --> 00:06:09.314
  • ALL THROUGH THE SCRIPTURES, HETALKS ABOUT SHOWING COMPASSION.
  • 00:06:09.314 --> 00:06:10.982
  • TALKS ABOUT SHOWING COMPASSION.HE WENT...HE WENT INTO THE
  • 00:06:10.982 --> 00:06:11.817
  • HE WENT...HE WENT INTO THECITIES AND HE WAS MOVED WITH
  • 00:06:11.817 --> 00:06:13.652
  • CITIES AND HE WAS MOVED WITHCOMPASSION.
  • 00:06:13.652 --> 00:06:15.620
  • COMPASSION.AND I LOVE THAT ABOUT HIM.
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  • AND I LOVE THAT ABOUT HIM.HE HAD COMPASSION.
  • 00:06:17.189 --> 00:06:18.757
  • HE HAD COMPASSION.IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW: YOU'RE AN
  • 00:06:18.757 --> 00:06:20.992
  • IT WASN'T, YOU KNOW: YOU'RE ANIDIOT AND I DON'T WANNA PRAY
  • 00:06:20.992 --> 00:06:22.494
  • IDIOT AND I DON'T WANNA PRAYFOR YOU OR HEAL YOU, TODAY.
  • 00:06:22.494 --> 00:06:23.695
  • FOR YOU OR HEAL YOU, TODAY.OR: I'M JUDGING YOU.
  • 00:06:23.695 --> 00:06:24.696
  • OR: I'M JUDGING YOU.HE JUST HAS COMPASSION ON
  • 00:06:24.696 --> 00:06:25.730
  • HE JUST HAS COMPASSION ONEVERYBODY.
  • 00:06:25.730 --> 00:06:27.065
  • EVERYBODY.AND, ON THE CROSS, HE EVEN
  • 00:06:27.065 --> 00:06:29.734
  • AND, ON THE CROSS, HE EVENSAID: FATHER, FORGIVE THEM, FOR
  • 00:06:29.734 --> 00:06:31.036
  • SAID: FATHER, FORGIVE THEM, FORTHEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT
  • 00:06:31.036 --> 00:06:31.736
  • THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHATTHEY'RE DOING.
  • 00:06:31.736 --> 00:06:33.171
  • THEY'RE DOING.SO, HERE, THEY'RE PUTTING HIM
  • 00:06:33.171 --> 00:06:34.306
  • SO, HERE, THEY'RE PUTTING HIMTO DEATH AND HE'S GOT
  • 00:06:34.306 --> 00:06:35.540
  • TO DEATH AND HE'S GOTCOMPASSION, AND HE'S ASKING
  • 00:06:35.540 --> 00:06:37.275
  • COMPASSION, AND HE'S ASKINGGOD'S FORGIVENESS.
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  • GOD'S FORGIVENESS.PRISCILLA, I KNOW YOU'RE SO
  • 00:06:38.643 --> 00:06:40.579
  • PRISCILLA, I KNOW YOU'RE SOGOOD AT THIS...(LAUGHS)...TO--
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  • GOOD AT THIS...(LAUGHS)...TO--TO DEFAULT TO LOVE, ALL THE
  • 00:06:43.081 --> 00:06:44.449
  • TO DEFAULT TO LOVE, ALL THETIME.
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  • TIME.HELP US THAT ARE SLOWER TO
  • 00:06:46.751 --> 00:06:49.621
  • HELP US THAT ARE SLOWER TODEFAULT, UM, HERE, TODAY.
  • 00:06:49.621 --> 00:06:50.922
  • DEFAULT, UM, HERE, TODAY.JUST HELP US WITH THAT, WOULD
  • 00:06:50.922 --> 00:06:52.224
  • JUST HELP US WITH THAT, WOULDYOU, PLEASE?
  • 00:06:52.224 --> 00:06:53.492
  • YOU, PLEASE?I LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
  • 00:06:53.492 --> 00:06:54.125
  • I LOVE YOU SO MUCH.I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE ON AIR WITH
  • 00:06:54.125 --> 00:06:54.993
  • I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE ON AIR WITHME.
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  • ME.- PRISCILLA SHIRER: I LOVE
  • 00:06:55.594 --> 00:06:56.595
  • - PRISCILLA SHIRER: I LOVEYOU, TOO.
  • 00:06:56.595 --> 00:06:57.229
  • YOU, TOO.- LAURIE: YOU GUYS ARE ALL SO
  • 00:06:57.229 --> 00:06:58.463
  • - LAURIE: YOU GUYS ARE ALL SOAMAZING.
  • 00:06:58.463 --> 00:06:59.130
  • AMAZING.- PRISCILLA: GIRL, I LOVE YOU,
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  • - PRISCILLA: GIRL, I LOVE YOU,TOO.
  • 00:06:59.598 --> 00:07:00.298
  • TOO.[LAUGHTER]
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  • [LAUGHTER]I LOVE YOU AND YOU MUST LOVE
  • 00:07:00.966 --> 00:07:02.667
  • I LOVE YOU AND YOU MUST LOVEME, BECAUSE, LISTEN -- THIS IS
  • 00:07:02.667 --> 00:07:04.870
  • ME, BECAUSE, LISTEN -- THIS ISSOMETHING THAT I STRUGGLE WITH
  • 00:07:04.870 --> 00:07:06.171
  • SOMETHING THAT I STRUGGLE WITHAND WRESTLE WITH JUST LIKE
  • 00:07:06.171 --> 00:07:06.771
  • AND WRESTLE WITH JUST LIKEEVERYBODY ELSE.
  • 00:07:06.771 --> 00:07:08.373
  • EVERYBODY ELSE.BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT HAS
  • 00:07:08.373 --> 00:07:11.042
  • BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT IT HASBEEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
  • 00:07:11.042 --> 00:07:12.811
  • BEEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IWISH -- NOW, 21 YEARS INTO MY
  • 00:07:12.811 --> 00:07:14.079
  • WISH -- NOW, 21 YEARS INTO MYMARRIAGE -- I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN
  • 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:14.713
  • MARRIAGE -- I WOULD HAVE GOTTENA LITTLE BIT OF A HANDLE ON IN
  • 00:07:14.713 --> 00:07:15.947
  • A LITTLE BIT OF A HANDLE ON INYEAR TWO!
  • 00:07:15.947 --> 00:07:17.349
  • YEAR TWO!BECAUSE IF YOU JUST TAKE A
  • 00:07:17.349 --> 00:07:19.384
  • BECAUSE IF YOU JUST TAKE AMINUTE, EVEN WITH YOUR SPOUSE,
  • 00:07:19.384 --> 00:07:21.620
  • MINUTE, EVEN WITH YOUR SPOUSE,TO ACTUALLY THINK THAT THE
  • 00:07:21.620 --> 00:07:24.322
  • TO ACTUALLY THINK THAT THEREASON WHY THEY REACTED THAT
  • 00:07:24.322 --> 00:07:25.690
  • REASON WHY THEY REACTED THATWAY, OR THE REASON WHY THEY
  • 00:07:25.690 --> 00:07:26.358
  • WAY, OR THE REASON WHY THEYRESPONDED THAT WAY, OR DID THAT
  • 00:07:26.358 --> 00:07:27.692
  • RESPONDED THAT WAY, OR DID THATOR DIDN'T DO THAT...
  • 00:07:27.692 --> 00:07:29.594
  • OR DIDN'T DO THAT...BUT THERE'S BACKSTORY THERE
  • 00:07:29.594 --> 00:07:30.996
  • BUT THERE'S BACKSTORY THEREABOUT SOMETHING THAT MAY HAVE
  • 00:07:30.996 --> 00:07:31.863
  • ABOUT SOMETHING THAT MAY HAVEHAPPENED IN THEIR DAY, OR
  • 00:07:31.863 --> 00:07:33.298
  • HAPPENED IN THEIR DAY, ORSOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN
  • 00:07:33.298 --> 00:07:34.499
  • SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED INTHEIR CHILDHOOD THAT, ACTUALLY,
  • 00:07:34.499 --> 00:07:37.235
  • THEIR CHILDHOOD THAT, ACTUALLY,IF YOU JUST TOOK A MINUTE TO
  • 00:07:37.235 --> 00:07:37.836
  • IF YOU JUST TOOK A MINUTE TOEXPLORE WHERE THEY'RE COMING
  • 00:07:37.836 --> 00:07:38.670
  • EXPLORE WHERE THEY'RE COMINGFROM...
  • 00:07:38.670 --> 00:07:39.738
  • FROM...MAN! THAT HAS BEEN SO HELPFUL
  • 00:07:39.738 --> 00:07:41.907
  • MAN! THAT HAS BEEN SO HELPFULTO ME IN MY MARRIAGE WITH
  • 00:07:41.907 --> 00:07:43.275
  • TO ME IN MY MARRIAGE WITHJERRY, AT THIS POINT, TO JUST
  • 00:07:43.275 --> 00:07:45.043
  • JERRY, AT THIS POINT, TO JUSTPAUSE FOR A MINUTE AND GO:
  • 00:07:45.043 --> 00:07:46.411
  • PAUSE FOR A MINUTE AND GO:OKAY, IS THERE SOMETHING THERE
  • 00:07:46.411 --> 00:07:48.413
  • OKAY, IS THERE SOMETHING THERETHAT HAS BEEN HURTFUL TO HIM
  • 00:07:48.413 --> 00:07:49.648
  • THAT HAS BEEN HURTFUL TO HIMTHAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW HE'S
  • 00:07:49.648 --> 00:07:51.216
  • THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW HE'SWRESTLING THROUGH?
  • 00:07:51.216 --> 00:07:52.450
  • WRESTLING THROUGH?OR SOMETHING THAT IS TOTALLY
  • 00:07:52.450 --> 00:07:54.085
  • OR SOMETHING THAT IS TOTALLYUNRELATED TO ME THAT IS JUST
  • 00:07:54.085 --> 00:07:55.587
  • UNRELATED TO ME THAT IS JUSTABOUT HIS WORK LIFE, OR HIS
  • 00:07:55.587 --> 00:07:56.922
  • ABOUT HIS WORK LIFE, OR HISMINISTRY LIFE, OR OTHER
  • 00:07:56.922 --> 00:07:57.822
  • MINISTRY LIFE, OR OTHERRELATIONSHIPS THAT HE HAS WITH
  • 00:07:57.822 --> 00:07:59.291
  • RELATIONSHIPS THAT HE HAS WITHFRIENDS, OR WHATEVER.
  • 00:07:59.291 --> 00:08:00.625
  • FRIENDS, OR WHATEVER.AND HE'S WRESTLING THROUGH
  • 00:08:00.625 --> 00:08:01.226
  • AND HE'S WRESTLING THROUGHTHAT.
  • 00:08:01.226 --> 00:08:02.861
  • THAT.AND WHAT I JUST EXPERIENCED IS
  • 00:08:02.861 --> 00:08:04.796
  • AND WHAT I JUST EXPERIENCED ISCOMING FROM SOMETHING THAT
  • 00:08:04.796 --> 00:08:06.231
  • COMING FROM SOMETHING THATACTUALLY, IF I TAKE A MINUTE TO
  • 00:08:06.231 --> 00:08:08.433
  • ACTUALLY, IF I TAKE A MINUTE TOHEAR HIM AND ACTUALLY CARE
  • 00:08:08.433 --> 00:08:10.769
  • HEAR HIM AND ACTUALLY CAREABOUT HIM ENOUGH TO EXPLORE IT,
  • 00:08:10.769 --> 00:08:12.203
  • ABOUT HIM ENOUGH TO EXPLORE IT,THEN, ACTUALLY, GOD'S GONNA USE
  • 00:08:12.203 --> 00:08:14.205
  • THEN, ACTUALLY, GOD'S GONNA USETHAT TO PUT COMPASSION IN MY
  • 00:08:14.205 --> 00:08:15.774
  • THAT TO PUT COMPASSION IN MYHEART AND THEN USE ME AS A
  • 00:08:15.774 --> 00:08:18.476
  • HEART AND THEN USE ME AS ASALVE AND AS A BALM AND AS A
  • 00:08:18.476 --> 00:08:20.312
  • SALVE AND AS A BALM AND AS ASOFT PLACE FOR MY HUSBAND TO
  • 00:08:20.312 --> 00:08:24.683
  • SOFT PLACE FOR MY HUSBAND TOLAY IN.
  • 00:08:24.683 --> 00:08:25.784
  • LAY IN.IT'S TAKEN ME WAY TOO MANY
  • 00:08:25.784 --> 00:08:26.384
  • IT'S TAKEN ME WAY TOO MANYYEARS TO LEARN THAT, TO JUST
  • 00:08:26.384 --> 00:08:27.452
  • YEARS TO LEARN THAT, TO JUSTTAKE A MINUTE TO CARE ABOUT HIM
  • 00:08:27.452 --> 00:08:28.286
  • TAKE A MINUTE TO CARE ABOUT HIMENOUGH TO ASK: WHERE ARE YOU
  • 00:08:28.286 --> 00:08:29.321
  • ENOUGH TO ASK: WHERE ARE YOUCOMING FROM?
  • 00:08:29.321 --> 00:08:30.956
  • COMING FROM?WHAT'S GOING ON?
  • 00:08:30.956 --> 00:08:31.556
  • WHAT'S GOING ON?AND HOW CAN I BE BLESSING TO
  • 00:08:31.556 --> 00:08:32.257
  • AND HOW CAN I BE BLESSING TOYOU?
  • 00:08:32.257 --> 00:08:33.325
  • YOU?AND CAN I JUST SAY, AS WE'RE
  • 00:08:33.325 --> 00:08:34.526
  • AND CAN I JUST SAY, AS WE'RETALKING ABOUT THIS, I WAS
  • 00:08:34.526 --> 00:08:35.794
  • TALKING ABOUT THIS, I WASSITTING HERE THINKING NOT ONLY
  • 00:08:35.794 --> 00:08:36.795
  • SITTING HERE THINKING NOT ONLYABOUT MY MARRIAGE, BUT I WAS
  • 00:08:36.795 --> 00:08:42.100
  • ABOUT MY MARRIAGE, BUT I WASTHINKING ABOUT HOW WHOLE GROUPS
  • 00:08:42.100 --> 00:08:43.702
  • THINKING ABOUT HOW WHOLE GROUPSOF PEOPLE ARE ANTAGONISTIC TO
  • 00:08:43.702 --> 00:08:46.805
  • OF PEOPLE ARE ANTAGONISTIC TOEACH OTHER AND AT WAR WITH EACH
  • 00:08:46.805 --> 00:08:48.173
  • EACH OTHER AND AT WAR WITH EACHOTHER BECAUSE OF THIS ONE ISSUE
  • 00:08:48.173 --> 00:08:49.274
  • OTHER BECAUSE OF THIS ONE ISSUEOF COMPASSION, THAT IT IS
  • 00:08:49.274 --> 00:08:51.409
  • OF COMPASSION, THAT IT ISOFTENTIMES EASIER--
  • 00:08:51.409 --> 00:08:54.079
  • OFTENTIMES EASIER--AT LEAST, IT'S A KEY ISSUE.
  • 00:08:54.079 --> 00:08:54.746
  • AT LEAST, IT'S A KEY ISSUE.NOT THE ONE ISSUE, BUT IT'S A
  • 00:08:54.746 --> 00:08:56.114
  • NOT THE ONE ISSUE, BUT IT'S AKEY ISSUE.
  • 00:08:56.114 --> 00:08:58.216
  • KEY ISSUE.BECAUSE IT IS OFTEN SO MUCH
  • 00:08:58.216 --> 00:08:59.851
  • BECAUSE IT IS OFTEN SO MUCHEASIER TO STAY IN A STANCE OF
  • 00:08:59.851 --> 00:09:01.052
  • EASIER TO STAY IN A STANCE OFDISMISSIVENESS RATHER THAN
  • 00:09:01.052 --> 00:09:02.554
  • DISMISSIVENESS RATHER THANEXPLORE THE OPTION OF EMPATHY
  • 00:09:02.554 --> 00:09:04.489
  • EXPLORE THE OPTION OF EMPATHYAND COMPASSION.
  • 00:09:04.489 --> 00:09:07.492
  • AND COMPASSION.IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO HEAR WHAT
  • 00:09:07.492 --> 00:09:08.360
  • IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO HEAR WHATTHE PROBLEM IS AND THEN JUST
  • 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:10.662
  • THE PROBLEM IS AND THEN JUSTDISMISS IT AND DISCOUNT IT AS
  • 00:09:10.662 --> 00:09:12.197
  • DISMISS IT AND DISCOUNT IT ASNOT REALLY AN ISSUE BECAUSE
  • 00:09:12.197 --> 00:09:13.832
  • NOT REALLY AN ISSUE BECAUSEMAYBE IT'S NOT MY ISSUE, RATHER
  • 00:09:13.832 --> 00:09:16.835
  • MAYBE IT'S NOT MY ISSUE, RATHERTHAN BELIEVE ME WHEN YOU TELL
  • 00:09:16.835 --> 00:09:18.737
  • THAN BELIEVE ME WHEN YOU TELLME THE SHOES THAT YOU'RE
  • 00:09:18.737 --> 00:09:19.204
  • ME THE SHOES THAT YOU'RESTANDING IN.
  • 00:09:19.204 --> 00:09:20.772
  • STANDING IN.AND THEN, SAY, INSTEAD OF ME
  • 00:09:20.772 --> 00:09:22.240
  • AND THEN, SAY, INSTEAD OF MECRITIQUING AND PICKING APART
  • 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:25.677
  • CRITIQUING AND PICKING APARTAND TELLING YOU HOW YOU COULD
  • 00:09:25.677 --> 00:09:26.778
  • AND TELLING YOU HOW YOU COULDDO IT BETTER AND FIX YO LIFE,
  • 00:09:26.778 --> 00:09:28.380
  • DO IT BETTER AND FIX YO LIFE,I'M JUST GON' COME STAND IN
  • 00:09:28.380 --> 00:09:29.681
  • I'M JUST GON' COME STAND INYOUR SHOES FOR A MOMENT -- FEEL
  • 00:09:29.681 --> 00:09:30.615
  • YOUR SHOES FOR A MOMENT -- FEELWHAT YOU FEEL, SEE IT FROM YOUR
  • 00:09:30.615 --> 00:09:32.183
  • WHAT YOU FEEL, SEE IT FROM YOURPERSPECTIVE.
  • 00:09:32.183 --> 00:09:33.818
  • PERSPECTIVE.THERE IS UNITY THAT COMES NOT
  • 00:09:33.818 --> 00:09:36.955
  • THERE IS UNITY THAT COMES NOTJUST BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS BUT
  • 00:09:36.955 --> 00:09:40.158
  • JUST BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS BUTBETWEEN WHOLE GROUPS OF PEOPLE
  • 00:09:40.158 --> 00:09:42.060
  • BETWEEN WHOLE GROUPS OF PEOPLEWHEN WE JUST SAY: I HEAR YOU
  • 00:09:42.060 --> 00:09:43.161
  • WHEN WE JUST SAY: I HEAR YOUAND I'M GOING STAND IN YOUR
  • 00:09:43.161 --> 00:09:44.996
  • AND I'M GOING STAND IN YOURSHOES AND HAVE COMPASSION
  • 00:09:44.996 --> 00:09:46.798
  • SHOES AND HAVE COMPASSIONINSTEAD OF TAKING THAT TIME AND
  • 00:09:46.798 --> 00:09:48.566
  • INSTEAD OF TAKING THAT TIME ANDENERGY TO CRITIQUE YOU, AND TO
  • 00:09:48.566 --> 00:09:49.601
  • ENERGY TO CRITIQUE YOU, AND TOJUDGE, AND TO TELL YOU THAT
  • 00:09:49.601 --> 00:09:51.403
  • JUDGE, AND TO TELL YOU THATYOUR PROBLEM IS IRRELEVANT.
  • 00:09:51.403 --> 00:09:52.570
  • YOUR PROBLEM IS IRRELEVANT.- NATALIE: THAT'S A WHOLE
  • 00:09:52.570 --> 00:09:53.038
  • - NATALIE: THAT'S A WHOLETHING.
  • 00:09:53.038 --> 00:09:54.806
  • THING.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:09:54.806 --> 00:09:55.573
  • [LAUGHTER]- DR. ANITA: THAT'S THE TRUTH.
  • 00:09:55.573 --> 00:09:56.274
  • - DR. ANITA: THAT'S THE TRUTH.WHOLE THING.
  • 00:09:56.274 --> 00:09:57.108
  • WHOLE THING.- NATALIE: THAT'S A WHOLE
  • 00:09:57.108 --> 00:09:58.843
  • - NATALIE: THAT'S A WHOLETHING THAT ACTUALLY WE COULD DO
  • 00:09:58.843 --> 00:09:59.744
  • THING THAT ACTUALLY WE COULD DOAN ENTIRE SHOW ON.
  • 00:09:59.744 --> 00:10:00.612
  • AN ENTIRE SHOW ON.BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S PART OF
  • 00:10:00.612 --> 00:10:01.780
  • BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S PART OFTHE PROBLEM IS THAT WE GET
  • 00:10:01.780 --> 00:10:04.349
  • THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE GETSTUCK DOWN IN THE WEEDS, DO YOU
  • 00:10:04.349 --> 00:10:05.617
  • STUCK DOWN IN THE WEEDS, DO YOUKNOW WHAT I MEAN?
  • 00:10:05.617 --> 00:10:06.918
  • KNOW WHAT I MEAN?WE GET OURSELVES IN ARGUMENTS
  • 00:10:06.918 --> 00:10:09.487
  • WE GET OURSELVES IN ARGUMENTSTHAT WE DON'T EVEN BELONG IN.
  • 00:10:09.487 --> 00:10:11.556
  • THAT WE DON'T EVEN BELONG IN.AND, YOU SEE, SO OFTEN, PEOPLE
  • 00:10:11.556 --> 00:10:12.724
  • AND, YOU SEE, SO OFTEN, PEOPLEGETTING STUCK DOWN IN THE
  • 00:10:12.724 --> 00:10:14.993
  • GETTING STUCK DOWN IN THEWEEDS.
  • 00:10:14.993 --> 00:10:15.927
  • WEEDS.AND YOU'RE LIKE: YOU-- IF I
  • 00:10:15.927 --> 00:10:17.262
  • AND YOU'RE LIKE: YOU-- IF IJUST EVEN-- I DON'T EVEN LIKE
  • 00:10:17.262 --> 00:10:18.763
  • JUST EVEN-- I DON'T EVEN LIKETO LOOK AT FACEBOOK, ANYMORE.
  • 00:10:18.763 --> 00:10:20.065
  • TO LOOK AT FACEBOOK, ANYMORE.BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT ALL THIS--
  • 00:10:20.065 --> 00:10:21.466
  • BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT ALL THIS--YOU KNOW, EVERYONE'S GOT AN
  • 00:10:21.466 --> 00:10:22.634
  • YOU KNOW, EVERYONE'S GOT ANOPINION AND EVERYONE'S SO
  • 00:10:22.634 --> 00:10:24.235
  • OPINION AND EVERYONE'S SOSTRONG WHEN THEY'RE JUST BEHIND
  • 00:10:24.235 --> 00:10:25.403
  • STRONG WHEN THEY'RE JUST BEHINDTHEIR KEYBOARD.
  • 00:10:25.403 --> 00:10:27.138
  • THEIR KEYBOARD.BUT, WHAT I FIND TO BE
  • 00:10:27.138 --> 00:10:29.441
  • BUT, WHAT I FIND TO BESOMETHING THAT'S INTERESTING IS
  • 00:10:29.441 --> 00:10:31.443
  • SOMETHING THAT'S INTERESTING ISTHAT WE'RE NOT ALWAYS WILLING
  • 00:10:31.443 --> 00:10:33.178
  • THAT WE'RE NOT ALWAYS WILLINGTO GIVE COMPASSION, YET, WE
  • 00:10:33.178 --> 00:10:35.413
  • TO GIVE COMPASSION, YET, WEEXPECT EVERYBODY TO GIVE IT TO
  • 00:10:35.413 --> 00:10:37.048
  • EXPECT EVERYBODY TO GIVE IT TOUS.
  • 00:10:37.048 --> 00:10:38.850
  • US.SO, I ALWAYS, IN A SITUATION --
  • 00:10:38.850 --> 00:10:41.219
  • SO, I ALWAYS, IN A SITUATION --I'M LIKE: WELL, YOU HAVE NO
  • 00:10:41.219 --> 00:10:42.253
  • I'M LIKE: WELL, YOU HAVE NOIDEA WHAT I'M EVEN GOING
  • 00:10:42.253 --> 00:10:42.821
  • IDEA WHAT I'M EVEN GOINGTHROUGH.
  • 00:10:42.821 --> 00:10:45.623
  • THROUGH.AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO GIVE US
  • 00:10:45.623 --> 00:10:47.959
  • AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO GIVE USTHE COMPASSION THAT WE
  • 00:10:47.959 --> 00:10:49.461
  • THE COMPASSION THAT WEOURSELVES ARE NOT WILLING TO
  • 00:10:49.461 --> 00:10:51.096
  • OURSELVES ARE NOT WILLING TOOFFER TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
  • 00:10:51.096 --> 00:10:52.697
  • OFFER TO SOMEBODY ELSE.I'M A BIG BELIEVER -- NOT JUST
  • 00:10:52.697 --> 00:10:54.432
  • I'M A BIG BELIEVER -- NOT JUSTBECAUSE IT'S A BIBLICAL
  • 00:10:54.432 --> 00:10:56.034
  • BECAUSE IT'S A BIBLICALPRINCIPLE, BUT BECAUSE I'VE
  • 00:10:56.034 --> 00:10:57.602
  • PRINCIPLE, BUT BECAUSE I'VEEXPERIENCED IT IN MY OWN
  • 00:10:57.602 --> 00:10:59.104
  • EXPERIENCED IT IN MY OWNLIFE -- I'M JUST SUCH A BIG
  • 00:10:59.104 --> 00:11:00.805
  • LIFE -- I'M JUST SUCH A BIGBELIEVER IN THE PRINCIPLE OF
  • 00:11:00.805 --> 00:11:02.540
  • BELIEVER IN THE PRINCIPLE OFSOWING AND REAPING: THAT WHAT
  • 00:11:02.540 --> 00:11:05.210
  • SOWING AND REAPING: THAT WHATYOU SOW IS WHAT YOU REAP.
  • 00:11:05.210 --> 00:11:07.679
  • YOU SOW IS WHAT YOU REAP.AND I'VE EVEN FOUND IN MY OWN
  • 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:10.448
  • AND I'VE EVEN FOUND IN MY OWNLIFE THAT THAT WHICH I AM
  • 00:11:10.448 --> 00:11:11.816
  • LIFE THAT THAT WHICH I AMLONGING FOR, WHEN I BEGIN TO
  • 00:11:11.816 --> 00:11:14.085
  • LONGING FOR, WHEN I BEGIN TOSOW THAT -- EVEN WHEN I FEEL
  • 00:11:14.085 --> 00:11:15.887
  • SOW THAT -- EVEN WHEN I FEELLIKE A PERSON DOESN'T DESERVE
  • 00:11:15.887 --> 00:11:20.458
  • LIKE A PERSON DOESN'T DESERVEIT -- WHEN I BEGIN TO SOW THAT
  • 00:11:20.458 --> 00:11:21.860
  • IT -- WHEN I BEGIN TO SOW THATCONSISTENTLY, CONSISTENTLY --
  • 00:11:21.860 --> 00:11:23.495
  • CONSISTENTLY, CONSISTENTLY --I'M SOWING COMPASSION;
  • 00:11:23.495 --> 00:11:25.563
  • I'M SOWING COMPASSION;CONSISTENTLY, I'M SOWING
  • 00:11:25.563 --> 00:11:26.231
  • CONSISTENTLY, I'M SOWINGUNDERSTANDING, CONSISTENTLY.
  • 00:11:26.231 --> 00:11:28.366
  • UNDERSTANDING, CONSISTENTLY.I'M SOWING EMPATHY --
  • 00:11:28.366 --> 00:11:29.267
  • I'M SOWING EMPATHY --EVENTUALLY, I BEGIN
  • 00:11:29.267 --> 00:11:31.836
  • EVENTUALLY, I BEGINTO REAP THAT WHICH I'M SOWING.
  • 00:11:31.836 --> 00:11:34.706
  • TO REAP THAT WHICH I'M SOWING.YET, IF YOU ARE SOWING
  • 00:11:34.706 --> 00:11:37.142
  • YET, IF YOU ARE SOWINGBITTERNESS AND DISCORD, AND,
  • 00:11:37.142 --> 00:11:39.778
  • BITTERNESS AND DISCORD, AND,UH, YOU HAVE A LACK OF EMPATHY
  • 00:11:39.778 --> 00:11:41.613
  • UH, YOU HAVE A LACK OF EMPATHYAND YOU HAVE A LACK OF
  • 00:11:41.613 --> 00:11:43.782
  • AND YOU HAVE A LACK OFUNDERSTANDING, AND YOU DON'T
  • 00:11:43.782 --> 00:11:45.016
  • UNDERSTANDING, AND YOU DON'TEVEN MODEL A DESIRE TO
  • 00:11:45.016 --> 00:11:46.384
  • EVEN MODEL A DESIRE TOUNDERSTAND...
  • 00:11:46.384 --> 00:11:47.485
  • UNDERSTAND...I THINK I ACTUALLY SAID THIS
  • 00:11:47.485 --> 00:11:49.654
  • I THINK I ACTUALLY SAID THISQUOTE EARLIER IN THE WEEK.
  • 00:11:49.654 --> 00:11:50.688
  • QUOTE EARLIER IN THE WEEK.BUT, PRISCILLA, WHEN YOU
  • 00:11:50.688 --> 00:11:53.558
  • BUT, PRISCILLA, WHEN YOUSTARTED TALKING, IT MADE ME
  • 00:11:53.558 --> 00:11:54.159
  • STARTED TALKING, IT MADE METHINK OF IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
  • 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:54.793
  • THINK OF IT ALL OVER AGAIN.I'M TELLING YOU -- CLIVE DAVIS
  • 00:11:54.793 --> 00:11:56.027
  • I'M TELLING YOU -- CLIVE DAVISCAN PREACH.
  • 00:11:56.027 --> 00:11:57.629
  • CAN PREACH.AND HE GAVE THAT QUOTE THAT
  • 00:11:57.629 --> 00:12:00.965
  • AND HE GAVE THAT QUOTE THATSAID: INSTEAD OF TRYING TO
  • 00:12:00.965 --> 00:12:02.033
  • SAID: INSTEAD OF TRYING TODISCREDIT IT,
  • 00:12:02.033 --> 00:12:04.469
  • DISCREDIT IT,TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT.
  • 00:12:04.469 --> 00:12:05.770
  • TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT.SO, INSTEAD OF CONSTANTLY
  • 00:12:05.770 --> 00:12:07.372
  • SO, INSTEAD OF CONSTANTLYTRYING TO DISCREDIT WHAT
  • 00:12:07.372 --> 00:12:09.140
  • TRYING TO DISCREDIT WHATSOMEBODY ELSE IS FEELING-- I'M
  • 00:12:09.140 --> 00:12:11.075
  • SOMEBODY ELSE IS FEELING-- I'MNOT ALWAYS GOING TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:12:11.075 --> 00:12:12.710
  • NOT ALWAYS GOING TO UNDERSTANDWHAT YOU'RE FEELING, DR. ANITA.
  • 00:12:12.710 --> 00:12:13.978
  • WHAT YOU'RE FEELING, DR. ANITA.I'M NOT ALWAYS GONNA UNDERSTAND
  • 00:12:13.978 --> 00:12:16.147
  • I'M NOT ALWAYS GONNA UNDERSTANDWHAT YOU'RE FEELING, HOSANNA.
  • 00:12:16.147 --> 00:12:17.148
  • WHAT YOU'RE FEELING, HOSANNA.I'M NOT GONNA UNDERSTAND WHERE
  • 00:12:17.148 --> 00:12:18.383
  • I'M NOT GONNA UNDERSTAND WHEREYOU'RE COMING FROM.
  • 00:12:18.383 --> 00:12:20.652
  • YOU'RE COMING FROM.BUT, I JUST NEED TO TAKE A
  • 00:12:20.652 --> 00:12:22.120
  • BUT, I JUST NEED TO TAKE AMOMENT AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND
  • 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:24.489
  • MOMENT AND TRY TO UNDERSTANDWHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
  • 00:12:24.489 --> 00:12:26.024
  • WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.AND THAT, ALWAYS, TO ME, STARTS
  • 00:12:26.024 --> 00:12:27.692
  • AND THAT, ALWAYS, TO ME, STARTSWITH A CONVERSATION, INSTEAD OF
  • 00:12:27.692 --> 00:12:30.962
  • WITH A CONVERSATION, INSTEAD OFREACTING OR RESPONDING FROM A
  • 00:12:30.962 --> 00:12:32.063
  • REACTING OR RESPONDING FROM APLACE OF: I KNOW BETTER.
  • 00:12:32.063 --> 00:12:35.366
  • PLACE OF: I KNOW BETTER.AND: HOW DARE YOU.
  • 00:12:35.366 --> 00:12:37.402
  • AND: HOW DARE YOU.AND: YOU NEED TO KNOW BETTER
  • 00:12:37.402 --> 00:12:38.903
  • AND: YOU NEED TO KNOW BETTERABOUT-- YOU NEED BETTER SIGNS
  • 00:12:38.903 --> 00:12:40.071
  • ABOUT-- YOU NEED BETTER SIGNSAND YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN BETTER,
  • 00:12:40.071 --> 00:12:41.906
  • AND YOU NEED TO EXPLAIN BETTER,LADY IN TARGET.
  • 00:12:41.906 --> 00:12:42.407
  • LADY IN TARGET.[LAUGHTER]
  • 00:12:42.407 --> 00:12:44.709
  • [LAUGHTER]INSTEAD OF THAT, JUST HAVING:
  • 00:12:44.709 --> 00:12:46.377
  • INSTEAD OF THAT, JUST HAVING:OKAY, I DON'T MAYBE UNDERSTAND,
  • 00:12:46.377 --> 00:12:48.479
  • OKAY, I DON'T MAYBE UNDERSTAND,BUT HOW ABOUT WE JUST GET BACK
  • 00:12:48.479 --> 00:12:49.948
  • BUT HOW ABOUT WE JUST GET BACKTO THAT JUST EVEN THE HUMAN
  • 00:12:49.948 --> 00:12:52.217
  • TO THAT JUST EVEN THE HUMANSPIRIT OF SAYING: LET'S HAVE A
  • 00:12:52.217 --> 00:12:54.185
  • SPIRIT OF SAYING: LET'S HAVE ACONVERSATION.
  • 00:12:54.185 --> 00:12:55.920
  • CONVERSATION.LET'S JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION
  • 00:12:55.920 --> 00:12:58.723
  • LET'S JUST HAVE A CONVERSATIONWHERE I TRY TO UNDERSTAND YOU,
  • 00:12:58.723 --> 00:13:00.525
  • WHERE I TRY TO UNDERSTAND YOU,AND, HOPEFULLY, YOU'LL TRY TO
  • 00:13:00.525 --> 00:13:02.894
  • AND, HOPEFULLY, YOU'LL TRY TOUNDERSTAND ME.
  • 00:13:02.894 --> 00:13:03.862
  • UNDERSTAND ME.- LAURIE: GOOD.
  • 00:13:03.862 --> 00:13:04.362
  • - LAURIE: GOOD.- HOSANNA: I LOVE THE
  • 00:13:04.362 --> 00:13:05.930
  • - HOSANNA: I LOVE THEPRACTICAL TOOL OF TAKING THE
  • 00:13:05.930 --> 00:13:07.866
  • PRACTICAL TOOL OF TAKING THEACTION TO PURSUE A
  • 00:13:07.866 --> 00:13:11.002
  • ACTION TO PURSUE ACONVERSATION.
  • 00:13:11.002 --> 00:13:12.871
  • CONVERSATION.I LOVE THAT SO MUCH BECAUSE I
  • 00:13:12.871 --> 00:13:14.105
  • I LOVE THAT SO MUCH BECAUSE ITHINK IT CAN BE SO MUCH EASIER
  • 00:13:14.105 --> 00:13:15.106
  • THINK IT CAN BE SO MUCH EASIERTO THINK OF COMPASSION OR
  • 00:13:15.106 --> 00:13:17.976
  • TO THINK OF COMPASSION ORGENTLENESS AS SOMETHING
  • 00:13:17.976 --> 00:13:19.177
  • GENTLENESS AS SOMETHINGPASSIVE.
  • 00:13:19.177 --> 00:13:20.645
  • PASSIVE.UM, OR SWEET AND MEEK AND
  • 00:13:20.645 --> 00:13:23.648
  • UM, OR SWEET AND MEEK ANDBEHIND THE SCENES LIKE, "I FEEL
  • 00:13:23.648 --> 00:13:24.849
  • BEHIND THE SCENES LIKE, "I FEELCOMPASSION...AT THOSE PEOPLE,"
  • 00:13:24.849 --> 00:13:26.751
  • COMPASSION...AT THOSE PEOPLE,""I FEEL GENTLENESS AT THOSE
  • 00:13:26.751 --> 00:13:27.385
  • "I FEEL GENTLENESS AT THOSEPEOPLE," AS OPPOSED TO TOWARD
  • 00:13:27.385 --> 00:13:29.687
  • PEOPLE," AS OPPOSED TO TOWARDTHOSE PEOPLE.
  • 00:13:29.687 --> 00:13:31.122
  • THOSE PEOPLE.WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE TO HAVE
  • 00:13:31.122 --> 00:13:32.156
  • WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE TO HAVEACTIVE COMPASSION?
  • 00:13:32.156 --> 00:13:33.958
  • ACTIVE COMPASSION?WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE TO HAVE
  • 00:13:33.958 --> 00:13:35.226
  • WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE TO HAVEACTIVE GENTLENESS?
  • 00:13:35.226 --> 00:13:36.628
  • ACTIVE GENTLENESS?THERE'S A COMMENTATOR WHO TALKS
  • 00:13:36.628 --> 00:13:38.229
  • THERE'S A COMMENTATOR WHO TALKSA LOT ABOUT GENTLENESS.
  • 00:13:38.229 --> 00:13:40.398
  • A LOT ABOUT GENTLENESS.AND I LOVE WHAT HE SAID.
  • 00:13:40.398 --> 00:13:42.734
  • AND I LOVE WHAT HE SAID.HE SAID THAT GENTLENESS IS THE
  • 00:13:42.734 --> 00:13:44.869
  • HE SAID THAT GENTLENESS IS THEACT OF SAYING: I'M GOING TO
  • 00:13:44.869 --> 00:13:47.839
  • ACT OF SAYING: I'M GOING TOFIGHT FOR YOU, NOT AGAINST YOU.
  • 00:13:47.839 --> 00:13:48.473
  • FIGHT FOR YOU, NOT AGAINST YOU.AND I LOVE THAT SO MUCH 'CAUSE
  • 00:13:48.473 --> 00:13:49.440
  • AND I LOVE THAT SO MUCH 'CAUSEI SO OFTEN THINK OF GENTLENESS
  • 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:50.541
  • I SO OFTEN THINK OF GENTLENESSAS, LIKE, SWEETNESS, AND, YOU
  • 00:13:50.541 --> 00:13:52.010
  • AS, LIKE, SWEETNESS, AND, YOUKNOW, SOMETHING REALLY
  • 00:13:52.010 --> 00:13:53.044
  • KNOW, SOMETHING REALLYBEAUTIFUL AND MAYBE EVEN
  • 00:13:53.044 --> 00:13:55.213
  • BEAUTIFUL AND MAYBE EVENSOMETHING PASSIVE.
  • 00:13:55.213 --> 00:13:55.980
  • SOMETHING PASSIVE."I'M GENTLE, I'M GENTLE, I'M
  • 00:13:55.980 --> 00:13:56.414
  • "I'M GENTLE, I'M GENTLE, I'MGENTLE!"
  • 00:13:56.414 --> 00:13:57.081
  • GENTLE!"BUT I LOVE HOW THIS COMMENTATOR
  • 00:13:57.081 --> 00:13:58.850
  • BUT I LOVE HOW THIS COMMENTATORBROUGHT IT.
  • 00:13:58.850 --> 00:13:59.484
  • BROUGHT IT.YOU ARE GENTLE TOWARDS PEOPLE,
  • 00:13:59.484 --> 00:14:00.084
  • YOU ARE GENTLE TOWARDS PEOPLE,YOU HAVE A GEBTLE POSTURE
  • 00:14:00.084 --> 00:14:01.953
  • YOU HAVE A GEBTLE POSTURETOWARDS PEOPLE,
  • 00:14:01.953 --> 00:14:02.520
  • TOWARDS PEOPLE,COMPASSIONATE POSTURE
  • 00:14:02.520 --> 00:14:03.121
  • COMPASSIONATE POSTURETOWARDS PEOPLE.
  • 00:14:03.121 --> 00:14:03.554
  • TOWARDS PEOPLE.WHEN YOU GO INTO A
  • 00:14:03.554 --> 00:14:04.289
  • WHEN YOU GO INTO ASITUATION AND THINK:
  • 00:14:04.289 --> 00:14:05.390
  • SITUATION AND THINK:AS I GO INTO THIS HARD
  • 00:14:05.390 --> 00:14:06.658
  • AS I GO INTO THIS HARDCONVERSATION AT WORK, AS I HAVE
  • 00:14:06.658 --> 00:14:07.959
  • CONVERSATION AT WORK, AS I HAVETHIS CONFRONTATION WITH THIS
  • 00:14:07.959 --> 00:14:10.061
  • THIS CONFRONTATION WITH THISFRIEND, AS I GO INTO THIS--
  • 00:14:10.061 --> 00:14:11.930
  • FRIEND, AS I GO INTO THIS--THIS HARD SITUATION, OR
  • 00:14:11.930 --> 00:14:13.364
  • THIS HARD SITUATION, ORCONFRONTATION, OR CONVERSATION
  • 00:14:13.364 --> 00:14:14.098
  • CONFRONTATION, OR CONVERSATIONWITH MY SPOUSE, I'M GOING WITH
  • 00:14:14.098 --> 00:14:15.400
  • WITH MY SPOUSE, I'M GOING WITHTHE POSTURE OF "I'M GOING TO BE
  • 00:14:15.400 --> 00:14:17.268
  • THE POSTURE OF "I'M GOING TO BEFOR YOU AND NOT AGAINST YOU."
  • 00:14:17.268 --> 00:14:18.536
  • FOR YOU AND NOT AGAINST YOU."I'M GONNA FIGHT FOR YOU IN THIS
  • 00:14:18.536 --> 00:14:19.370
  • I'M GONNA FIGHT FOR YOU IN THISSITUATION.
  • 00:14:19.370 --> 00:14:20.138
  • SITUATION.I DON'T NEED TO WIN AND YOU
  • 00:14:20.138 --> 00:14:21.372
  • I DON'T NEED TO WIN AND YOULOSE.
  • 00:14:21.372 --> 00:14:21.839
  • LOSE.I HOPE WE BOTH WIN.
  • 00:14:21.839 --> 00:14:23.174
  • I HOPE WE BOTH WIN.I HOPE THE TRUTH IS ULTIMATELY
  • 00:14:23.174 --> 00:14:24.943
  • I HOPE THE TRUTH IS ULTIMATELYWHAT WINS OUT.
  • 00:14:24.943 --> 00:14:25.643
  • WHAT WINS OUT.I HOPE RECONCILIATION IS
  • 00:14:25.643 --> 00:14:27.545
  • I HOPE RECONCILIATION ISULTIMATELY WHAT WINS.
  • 00:14:27.545 --> 00:14:28.579
  • ULTIMATELY WHAT WINS.AND SO, I THINK COMPASSION THAT
  • 00:14:28.579 --> 00:14:30.682
  • AND SO, I THINK COMPASSION THATIS NOT ACTIVE IS NOT TRUE
  • 00:14:30.682 --> 00:14:32.150
  • IS NOT ACTIVE IS NOT TRUECOMPASSION AT ALL.
  • 00:14:32.150 --> 00:14:34.986
  • COMPASSION AT ALL.AND TO BE A GENTLE PERSON DOES
  • 00:14:34.986 --> 00:14:37.355
  • AND TO BE A GENTLE PERSON DOESNOT MEAN TO BE A QUIET PERSON
  • 00:14:37.355 --> 00:14:39.290
  • NOT MEAN TO BE A QUIET PERSONWHO'S ALWAYS SITTING DOWN DOING
  • 00:14:39.290 --> 00:14:39.791
  • WHO'S ALWAYS SITTING DOWN DOINGNOTHING.
  • 00:14:39.791 --> 00:14:41.125
  • NOTHING.IT MEANS TO APPROACH SITUATIONS
  • 00:14:41.125 --> 00:14:42.327
  • IT MEANS TO APPROACH SITUATIONSTHINKING: HOW COULD I FIGHT FOR
  • 00:14:42.327 --> 00:14:43.227
  • THINKING: HOW COULD I FIGHT FORTHESE PEOPLE?
  • 00:14:43.227 --> 00:14:44.362
  • THESE PEOPLE?- PRISCILLA: THAT'S GOOD.
  • 00:14:44.362 --> 00:14:45.563
  • - PRISCILLA: THAT'S GOOD.- HOSANNA: AND IF I CAN'T DO
  • 00:14:45.563 --> 00:14:46.331
  • - HOSANNA: AND IF I CAN'T DOSOMETHING I THINK I CAN PUT MY
  • 00:14:46.331 --> 00:14:47.198
  • SOMETHING I THINK I CAN PUT MYHANDS TO, LIKE, HOW CAN I
  • 00:14:47.198 --> 00:14:47.932
  • HANDS TO, LIKE, HOW CAN IACTIVELY PRAY FOR THEM,
  • 00:14:47.932 --> 00:14:49.000
  • ACTIVELY PRAY FOR THEM,CONSISTENTLY?
  • 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:50.835
  • CONSISTENTLY?HOW CAN I ACTIVELY HAVE
  • 00:14:50.835 --> 00:14:52.003
  • HOW CAN I ACTIVELY HAVEGENTLENESS TOWARDS THIS WOMAN
  • 00:14:52.003 --> 00:14:53.371
  • GENTLENESS TOWARDS THIS WOMANAT MY CHURCH?
  • 00:14:53.371 --> 00:14:53.905
  • AT MY CHURCH?HOW CAN I ACTIVELY BE
  • 00:14:53.905 --> 00:14:55.273
  • HOW CAN I ACTIVELY BECOMPASSIONATE TOWARDS
  • 00:14:55.273 --> 00:14:56.741
  • COMPASSIONATE TOWARDSTHIS GROUP OF PEOPLE
  • 00:14:56.741 --> 00:14:58.309
  • THIS GROUP OF PEOPLEAT MY JOB.
  • 00:14:58.309 --> 00:14:59.644
  • AT MY JOB.COMPASSION AND GENTLENESS IS
  • 00:14:59.644 --> 00:15:00.611
  • COMPASSION AND GENTLENESS ISACTIVE.
  • 00:15:00.611 --> 00:15:02.480
  • ACTIVE.AND I THINK THE QUESTION WE
  • 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:04.449
  • AND I THINK THE QUESTION WENEED TO ASK OURSELVES IS NOT
  • 00:15:04.449 --> 00:15:05.450
  • NEED TO ASK OURSELVES IS NOT"WHAT DO WE FEEL TOWARDS
  • 00:15:05.450 --> 00:15:06.384
  • "WHAT DO WE FEEL TOWARDSPEOPLE?"
  • 00:15:06.384 --> 00:15:06.951
  • PEOPLE?"BUT "WHAT ARE WE ACTIVELY
  • 00:15:06.951 --> 00:15:08.186
  • BUT "WHAT ARE WE ACTIVELYDOING TO PURSUE RECONCILIATION
  • 00:15:08.186 --> 00:15:10.488
  • DOING TO PURSUE RECONCILIATIONWITH EACH OTHER AND
  • 00:15:10.488 --> 00:15:11.622
  • WITH EACH OTHER ANDRESTORATIVE RELATIONSHIPS
  • 00:15:11.622 --> 00:15:15.927
  • RESTORATIVE RELATIONSHIPSWITH ONE ANOTHER?"
  • 00:15:15.927 --> 00:15:17.362
  • WITH ONE ANOTHER?"SO, I LOVE, NATALIE, THAT YOU
  • 00:15:17.362 --> 00:15:19.163
  • SO, I LOVE, NATALIE, THAT YOUTALKED ABOUT HAVING ACTIVE
  • 00:15:19.163 --> 00:15:20.365
  • TALKED ABOUT HAVING ACTIVECONVERSATIONS.
  • 00:15:20.365 --> 00:15:21.065
  • CONVERSATIONS.- DR. ANITA: YEAH.
  • 00:15:21.065 --> 00:15:22.233
  • - DR. ANITA: YEAH.I LOVE THAT, AS WELL, AND I
  • 00:15:22.233 --> 00:15:23.968
  • I LOVE THAT, AS WELL, AND ITHINK IT SPEAKS TO WHAT ALL
  • 00:15:23.968 --> 00:15:25.803
  • THINK IT SPEAKS TO WHAT ALLOF US ARE SEEING HAPPENING IN
  • 00:15:25.803 --> 00:15:26.971
  • OF US ARE SEEING HAPPENING INOUR-- IN OUR CULTURE THIS YEAR,
  • 00:15:26.971 --> 00:15:28.239
  • OUR-- IN OUR CULTURE THIS YEAR,THAT COMPASSION IS SEEMING TO
  • 00:15:28.239 --> 00:15:31.876
  • THAT COMPASSION IS SEEMING TOBE ABSENT.
  • 00:15:31.876 --> 00:15:33.277
  • BE ABSENT.THERE'S CRUELTY AND THERE'S
  • 00:15:33.277 --> 00:15:34.245
  • THERE'S CRUELTY AND THERE'SJUDGMENT AND THERE'S
  • 00:15:34.245 --> 00:15:35.213
  • JUDGMENT AND THERE'SCUTTING AND THERE'S ATTACKS --
  • 00:15:35.213 --> 00:15:36.547
  • CUTTING AND THERE'S ATTACKS --AND I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE
  • 00:15:36.547 --> 00:15:37.682
  • AND I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THEBODY OF CHRIST, OKAY?
  • 00:15:37.682 --> 00:15:38.516
  • BODY OF CHRIST, OKAY?I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE
  • 00:15:38.516 --> 00:15:39.484
  • I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THEWORLD.
  • 00:15:39.484 --> 00:15:40.318
  • WORLD.I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING
  • 00:15:40.318 --> 00:15:41.919
  • I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S GOINGON IN THE BODY.
  • 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:42.687
  • ON IN THE BODY.YOU KNOW...
  • 00:15:42.687 --> 00:15:44.722
  • YOU KNOW...PAUL SAID: THE NAME OF JESUS
  • 00:15:44.722 --> 00:15:46.224
  • PAUL SAID: THE NAME OF JESUSIS BLASPHEMED AMONG THE
  • 00:15:46.224 --> 00:15:49.260
  • IS BLASPHEMED AMONG THEGENTILES BECAUSE OF YOU,
  • 00:15:49.260 --> 00:15:49.994
  • GENTILES BECAUSE OF YOU,BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN CRUELTY IN
  • 00:15:49.994 --> 00:15:51.696
  • BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN CRUELTY INTHE BODY OF CHRIST, THIS YEAR,
  • 00:15:51.696 --> 00:15:53.164
  • THE BODY OF CHRIST, THIS YEAR,THAT IS UNIMAGINABLE.
  • 00:15:53.164 --> 00:15:55.566
  • THAT IS UNIMAGINABLE.AND IT IS THE ABSENCE OF LOVE.
  • 00:15:55.566 --> 00:15:57.702
  • AND IT IS THE ABSENCE OF LOVE.THE BIBLE SAYS THAT LOVE THINKS
  • 00:15:57.702 --> 00:15:58.936
  • THE BIBLE SAYS THAT LOVE THINKSTHE BEST OF PEOPLE, AND IT SAYS
  • 00:15:58.936 --> 00:16:02.340
  • THE BEST OF PEOPLE, AND IT SAYSTHAT LOVE KEEPS NO RECORD OF
  • 00:16:02.340 --> 00:16:03.775
  • THAT LOVE KEEPS NO RECORD OFWRONGS, AND I HAVE NEVER SEEN
  • 00:16:03.775 --> 00:16:05.943
  • WRONGS, AND I HAVE NEVER SEENSO MANY WRONGS LISTED BY PEOPLE
  • 00:16:05.943 --> 00:16:07.645
  • SO MANY WRONGS LISTED BY PEOPLEWHO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIAN
  • 00:16:07.645 --> 00:16:09.547
  • WHO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANEVER BEFORE IN MY LIFE.
  • 00:16:09.547 --> 00:16:11.783
  • EVER BEFORE IN MY LIFE.I AM CHALLENGING THE PEOPLE OF
  • 00:16:11.783 --> 00:16:13.551
  • I AM CHALLENGING THE PEOPLE OFGOD WHO ARE LISTENING TO GO
  • 00:16:13.551 --> 00:16:15.186
  • GOD WHO ARE LISTENING TO GOREAD THAT LOVE CHAPTER AND HOLD
  • 00:16:15.186 --> 00:16:16.721
  • READ THAT LOVE CHAPTER AND HOLDYOURSELF ACCOUNTABLE TO EVERY
  • 00:16:16.721 --> 00:16:19.624
  • YOURSELF ACCOUNTABLE TO EVERYVERSE WITHOUT SAYING "BUT."
  • 00:16:19.624 --> 00:16:21.025
  • VERSE WITHOUT SAYING "BUT.""BUT THEY...!"
  • 00:16:21.025 --> 00:16:22.226
  • "BUT THEY...!""BUT THIS...!"
  • 00:16:22.226 --> 00:16:23.895
  • "BUT THIS...!"NO BUTS.
  • 00:16:23.895 --> 00:16:24.529
  • NO BUTS.NO IF, ANDS, OR BUTS ABOUT IT,
  • 00:16:24.529 --> 00:16:25.663
  • NO IF, ANDS, OR BUTS ABOUT IT,BABY.
  • 00:16:25.663 --> 00:16:27.532
  • BABY.YOU ARE CALLED TO LOVE.
  • 00:16:27.532 --> 00:16:28.366
  • YOU ARE CALLED TO LOVE.AND, WITHOUT IT, YOU ARE NOT
  • 00:16:28.366 --> 00:16:30.301
  • AND, WITHOUT IT, YOU ARE NOTRELATED TO CHRIST.
  • 00:16:30.301 --> 00:16:31.636
  • RELATED TO CHRIST.- NATALIE: I FEEL LIKE THIS IS
  • 00:16:31.636 --> 00:16:33.104
  • - NATALIE: I FEEL LIKE THIS ISIMPORTANT TO SAY, THOUGH, IS
  • 00:16:33.104 --> 00:16:34.338
  • IMPORTANT TO SAY, THOUGH, ISTHAT YOU KNOW THAT IT'S
  • 00:16:34.338 --> 00:16:35.573
  • THAT YOU KNOW THAT IT'SACTUALLY OKAY TO SHOW
  • 00:16:35.573 --> 00:16:37.108
  • ACTUALLY OKAY TO SHOWCOMPASSION FOR SOMEBODY'S
  • 00:16:37.108 --> 00:16:39.243
  • COMPASSION FOR SOMEBODY'SSITUATION -- AND IT DOESN'T
  • 00:16:39.243 --> 00:16:41.245
  • SITUATION -- AND IT DOESN'TMEAN THAT YOU DON'T HAVE
  • 00:16:41.245 --> 00:16:42.814
  • MEAN THAT YOU DON'T HAVECOMPASSION ON A BUNCH OF OTHER
  • 00:16:42.814 --> 00:16:43.648
  • COMPASSION ON A BUNCH OF OTHERISSUES.
  • 00:16:43.648 --> 00:16:46.084
  • ISSUES.SO, IT'S ACTUALLY POSSIBLE TO
  • 00:16:46.084 --> 00:16:49.220
  • SO, IT'S ACTUALLY POSSIBLE TOSAY: I FEEL YOU IN THIS MOMENT
  • 00:16:49.220 --> 00:16:52.023
  • SAY: I FEEL YOU IN THIS MOMENTTHAT YOU'RE IN, AND IT DOESN'T
  • 00:16:52.023 --> 00:16:53.357
  • THAT YOU'RE IN, AND IT DOESN'TMEAN THAT I HAVE TO SAY, "BUT I
  • 00:16:53.357 --> 00:16:54.725
  • MEAN THAT I HAVE TO SAY, "BUT IALSO DON'T AGREE WITH THIS, AND
  • 00:16:54.725 --> 00:16:56.394
  • ALSO DON'T AGREE WITH THIS, ANDI FEEL COMPASSION FOR THIS,
  • 00:16:56.394 --> 00:16:57.595
  • I FEEL COMPASSION FOR THIS,AND I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS."
  • 00:16:57.595 --> 00:16:58.696
  • AND I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS."'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE, IN THIS
  • 00:16:58.696 --> 00:16:59.897
  • 'CAUSE I FEEL LIKE, IN THISMOMENT IN OUR CULTURE, IF
  • 00:16:59.897 --> 00:17:01.432
  • MOMENT IN OUR CULTURE, IFYOU'RE TRYING TO STAND WITH
  • 00:17:01.432 --> 00:17:03.267
  • YOU'RE TRYING TO STAND WITHSOMEBODY, OR PEOPLE, OR AN
  • 00:17:03.267 --> 00:17:05.603
  • SOMEBODY, OR PEOPLE, OR ANISSUE OF THE MOMENT TO SAY, "WE
  • 00:17:05.603 --> 00:17:09.373
  • ISSUE OF THE MOMENT TO SAY, "WESEE YOU AND WE VALUE THIS THING
  • 00:17:09.373 --> 00:17:10.842
  • SEE YOU AND WE VALUE THIS THINGTHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH,"
  • 00:17:10.842 --> 00:17:11.976
  • THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH,"EVERYONE'S LIKE: "OH, YEAH?
  • 00:17:11.976 --> 00:17:13.711
  • EVERYONE'S LIKE: "OH, YEAH?WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS?
  • 00:17:13.711 --> 00:17:15.079
  • WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS?AND HOW COME YOU'RE NOT
  • 00:17:15.079 --> 00:17:15.947
  • AND HOW COME YOU'RE NOTSPEAKING UP ABOUT THIS?
  • 00:17:15.947 --> 00:17:16.881
  • SPEAKING UP ABOUT THIS?AND HOW COME YOU'RE NOT
  • 00:17:16.881 --> 00:17:17.949
  • AND HOW COME YOU'RE NOTSPEAKING UP ABOUT THIS?"
  • 00:17:17.949 --> 00:17:19.183
  • SPEAKING UP ABOUT THIS?"AND YOU JUST KINDA WANNA SAY,
  • 00:17:19.183 --> 00:17:20.518
  • AND YOU JUST KINDA WANNA SAY,FOR A MOMENT: YOU KNOW WHAT?
  • 00:17:20.518 --> 00:17:22.153
  • FOR A MOMENT: YOU KNOW WHAT?WHEN JESUS SHOWED UP TO HEAL
  • 00:17:22.153 --> 00:17:23.354
  • WHEN JESUS SHOWED UP TO HEALTHE MAN AT THE POOLS OF
  • 00:17:23.354 --> 00:17:24.922
  • THE MAN AT THE POOLS OFBETHESDA, HE WASN'T SAYING THAT
  • 00:17:24.922 --> 00:17:26.023
  • BETHESDA, HE WASN'T SAYING THATEVERYBODY ELSE AROUND DIDN'T
  • 00:17:26.023 --> 00:17:26.891
  • EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND DIDN'TNEED TO BE HEALED.
  • 00:17:26.891 --> 00:17:28.192
  • NEED TO BE HEALED.BUT IN THAT MOMENT, HE WAS
  • 00:17:28.192 --> 00:17:30.495
  • BUT IN THAT MOMENT, HE WASFOCUSING ON THAT MAN AND HIS
  • 00:17:30.495 --> 00:17:31.896
  • FOCUSING ON THAT MAN AND HISISSUE.
  • 00:17:31.896 --> 00:17:33.331
  • ISSUE.AND HE SAID: TODAY, YOU ARE
  • 00:17:33.331 --> 00:17:33.898
  • AND HE SAID: TODAY, YOU AREHEALED.
  • 00:17:33.898 --> 00:17:35.133
  • HEALED.AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE JUST
  • 00:17:35.133 --> 00:17:36.834
  • AND I JUST FEEL LIKE WE JUSTNEED A MOMENT WHERE WE ALL TAKE
  • 00:17:36.834 --> 00:17:38.536
  • NEED A MOMENT WHERE WE ALL TAKEA DEEP BREATH AND SAY: WE CAN
  • 00:17:38.536 --> 00:17:40.538
  • A DEEP BREATH AND SAY: WE CANSTAND WITH ONE PERSON OR ONE
  • 00:17:40.538 --> 00:17:42.106
  • STAND WITH ONE PERSON OR ONEISSUE IN THE MOMENT.
  • 00:17:42.106 --> 00:17:44.041
  • ISSUE IN THE MOMENT.AND, EVERYBODY, YOU DON'T HAVE
  • 00:17:44.041 --> 00:17:45.443
  • AND, EVERYBODY, YOU DON'T HAVETO TAKE IT UPON YOURSELF TO
  • 00:17:45.443 --> 00:17:46.544
  • TO TAKE IT UPON YOURSELF TOREMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT ALL THE
  • 00:17:46.544 --> 00:17:48.779
  • REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT ALL THEOTHER ISSUES IN THE WORLD THAT
  • 00:17:48.779 --> 00:17:49.981
  • OTHER ISSUES IN THE WORLD THATTHEY SHOULD BE STANDING FOR.
  • 00:17:49.981 --> 00:17:50.882
  • THEY SHOULD BE STANDING FOR.[LAUGHS]
  • 00:17:50.882 --> 00:17:52.250
  • [LAUGHS]I JUST NEEDED TO GET THAT OFF
  • 00:17:52.250 --> 00:17:53.784
  • I JUST NEEDED TO GET THAT OFFMY CHEST FOR A MOMENT.
  • 00:17:53.784 --> 00:17:54.385
  • MY CHEST FOR A MOMENT.- PRISCILLA: COME ON...COME
  • 00:17:54.385 --> 00:17:55.052
  • - PRISCILLA: COME ON...COMEAND PREACH IT, COME ON AND
  • 00:17:55.052 --> 00:17:55.686
  • AND PREACH IT, COME ON ANDPREACH --
  • 00:17:55.686 --> 00:17:56.287
  • PREACH --- DR. ANITA: AND YOU DID IT
  • 00:17:56.287 --> 00:17:57.021
  • - DR. ANITA: AND YOU DID ITBEAUTIFULLY.
  • 00:17:57.021 --> 00:17:57.922
  • BEAUTIFULLY.AND YOU DID IT BEAUTIFULLY.
  • 00:17:57.922 --> 00:17:59.056
  • AND YOU DID IT BEAUTIFULLY.BECAUSE, LIKE YOU SAID, GOD IS
  • 00:17:59.056 --> 00:18:00.391
  • BECAUSE, LIKE YOU SAID, GOD ISWITH US!
  • 00:18:00.391 --> 00:18:00.858
  • WITH US!- NATALIE: YES!
  • 00:18:00.858 --> 00:18:01.959
  • - NATALIE: YES!- DR. ANITA: HE'S WITH US IN
  • 00:18:01.959 --> 00:18:02.860
  • - DR. ANITA: HE'S WITH US INTHAT MOMENT.
  • 00:18:02.860 --> 00:18:03.728
  • THAT MOMENT.HE WAS WITH THE MAN BY THE POOL
  • 00:18:03.728 --> 00:18:05.563
  • HE WAS WITH THE MAN BY THE POOLAT BETHESDA.
  • 00:18:05.563 --> 00:18:06.130
  • AT BETHESDA.HE'S WITH US.
  • 00:18:06.130 --> 00:18:07.131
  • HE'S WITH US.AND WE DON'T...ALWAYS KNOW HOW
  • 00:18:07.131 --> 00:18:08.499
  • AND WE DON'T...ALWAYS KNOW HOWTO BE PRESENT IN A SPACE WHERE
  • 00:18:08.499 --> 00:18:10.735
  • TO BE PRESENT IN A SPACE WHEREWE ARE UNCOMFORTABLE.
  • 00:18:10.735 --> 00:18:11.802
  • WE ARE UNCOMFORTABLE.SO, WE EITHER TRY TO DISCOUNT
  • 00:18:11.802 --> 00:18:13.171
  • SO, WE EITHER TRY TO DISCOUNTTHE SPACE AND MAKE A RUN FOR
  • 00:18:13.171 --> 00:18:14.605
  • THE SPACE AND MAKE A RUN FORIT, OR WE'LL HAVE TO SIT IN THE
  • 00:18:14.605 --> 00:18:16.407
  • IT, OR WE'LL HAVE TO SIT IN THEDISCOMFORT, WHICH IS SOMETHING
  • 00:18:16.407 --> 00:18:17.341
  • DISCOMFORT, WHICH IS SOMETHINGTHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:18:17.341 --> 00:18:18.209
  • THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUTALL WEEK.
  • 00:18:18.209 --> 00:18:20.211
  • ALL WEEK.AND YOU SIT WITH YOUR EMOTIONS.
  • 00:18:20.211 --> 00:18:21.646
  • AND YOU SIT WITH YOUR EMOTIONS.AND SO, WE HAVE TO WATCH OUT
  • 00:18:21.646 --> 00:18:23.514
  • AND SO, WE HAVE TO WATCH OUTFOR -- AGAIN, I'VE SAID THIS SO
  • 00:18:23.514 --> 00:18:24.982
  • FOR -- AGAIN, I'VE SAID THIS SOMANY TIMES -- ALLOWING CULTURE
  • 00:18:24.982 --> 00:18:26.984
  • MANY TIMES -- ALLOWING CULTURETO INFORM HOW YOU DO CHRIST.
  • 00:18:26.984 --> 00:18:28.052
  • TO INFORM HOW YOU DO CHRIST.- NATALIE: AW, SO GOOD.
  • 00:18:28.052 --> 00:18:29.220
  • - NATALIE: AW, SO GOOD.- DR. ANITA: AND WE DROP THAT
  • 00:18:29.220 --> 00:18:30.421
  • - DR. ANITA: AND WE DROP THATBALL AND WE'RE NOT SHOWING
  • 00:18:30.421 --> 00:18:31.689
  • BALL AND WE'RE NOT SHOWINGLOVE.
  • 00:18:31.689 --> 00:18:32.356
  • LOVE.WE'RE NOT ALLOWING OURSELVES TO
  • 00:18:32.356 --> 00:18:33.424
  • WE'RE NOT ALLOWING OURSELVES TOBE CONVICTED BY WHAT IT MEANS
  • 00:18:33.424 --> 00:18:34.592
  • BE CONVICTED BY WHAT IT MEANSTO LOVE, BECAUSE OUR CULTURE IS
  • 00:18:34.592 --> 00:18:35.793
  • TO LOVE, BECAUSE OUR CULTURE ISCONSUMED WITH WHO'S WORTHY AND
  • 00:18:35.793 --> 00:18:39.630
  • CONSUMED WITH WHO'S WORTHY ANDWHO'S NOT.
  • 00:18:39.630 --> 00:18:40.932
  • WHO'S NOT.AND I'VE HEARD US SAY THAT
  • 00:18:40.932 --> 00:18:41.499
  • AND I'VE HEARD US SAY THATSOMETIMES.
  • 00:18:41.499 --> 00:18:42.300
  • SOMETIMES."WELL, I FEEL LIKE I DESERVED
  • 00:18:42.300 --> 00:18:43.634
  • "WELL, I FEEL LIKE I DESERVEDTHIS."
  • 00:18:43.634 --> 00:18:44.168
  • THIS.""I DIDN'T DESERVE THAT."
  • 00:18:44.168 --> 00:18:45.436
  • "I DIDN'T DESERVE THAT."WE DO IT TO OURSELVES AND WE DO
  • 00:18:45.436 --> 00:18:45.937
  • WE DO IT TO OURSELVES AND WE DOIT TO OTHER PEOPLE.
  • 00:18:45.937 --> 00:18:46.804
  • IT TO OTHER PEOPLE.WHO'S WORTHY? WHO'S NOT?
  • 00:18:46.804 --> 00:18:47.805
  • WHO'S WORTHY? WHO'S NOT?WHO'S GUILTY? WHO'S NOT?
  • 00:18:47.805 --> 00:18:49.207
  • WHO'S GUILTY? WHO'S NOT?WE'RE ALL GUILTY AND WE'RE ALL
  • 00:18:49.207 --> 00:18:50.474
  • WE'RE ALL GUILTY AND WE'RE ALLUNWORTHY, AND SO WE SHOULD ALL
  • 00:18:50.474 --> 00:18:51.709
  • UNWORTHY, AND SO WE SHOULD ALLBE GRATEFUL WHEN GOD DOES
  • 00:18:51.709 --> 00:18:53.010
  • BE GRATEFUL WHEN GOD DOESANYTHING FOR ANY OF US.
  • 00:18:53.010 --> 00:18:55.613
  • ANYTHING FOR ANY OF US.AND, THIS IDEA OF NEEDING TO
  • 00:18:55.613 --> 00:18:56.547
  • AND, THIS IDEA OF NEEDING TODECIDE...
  • 00:18:56.547 --> 00:18:58.049
  • DECIDE...I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY DMs I
  • 00:18:58.049 --> 00:18:59.283
  • I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY DMs IGET WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT
  • 00:18:59.283 --> 00:19:00.751
  • GET WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUTRACIAL JUSTICE OR OTHER ISSUES
  • 00:19:00.751 --> 00:19:01.752
  • RACIAL JUSTICE OR OTHER ISSUESTHAT SET PEOPLE OFF.
  • 00:19:01.752 --> 00:19:03.087
  • THAT SET PEOPLE OFF.I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY DMs I
  • 00:19:03.087 --> 00:19:05.890
  • I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY DMs IGET OF PEOPLE SAYING: "HOW CAN
  • 00:19:05.890 --> 00:19:06.424
  • GET OF PEOPLE SAYING: "HOW CANYOU SPEAK OF THOSE PEOPLE?
  • 00:19:06.424 --> 00:19:06.958
  • YOU SPEAK OF THOSE PEOPLE?THOSE PEOPLE ARE EVIL."
  • 00:19:06.958 --> 00:19:07.858
  • THOSE PEOPLE ARE EVIL."AND I'M JUST LIKE: I'M SORRY.
  • 00:19:07.858 --> 00:19:09.227
  • AND I'M JUST LIKE: I'M SORRY.ARE YOU EVEN A CHRISTIAN?
  • 00:19:09.227 --> 00:19:09.961
  • ARE YOU EVEN A CHRISTIAN?- LAURIE: JESUS...
  • 00:19:09.961 --> 00:19:11.195
  • - LAURIE: JESUS...- DR. ANITA: WHO ARE YOU TO
  • 00:19:11.195 --> 00:19:12.430
  • - DR. ANITA: WHO ARE YOU TOCALL AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLE
  • 00:19:12.430 --> 00:19:14.665
  • CALL AN ENTIRE GROUP OF PEOPLEEVIL?
  • 00:19:14.665 --> 00:19:15.533
  • EVIL?AND IF THEY ARE, WHILE YOU'RE
  • 00:19:15.533 --> 00:19:18.069
  • AND IF THEY ARE, WHILE YOU'RECALLING 'EM EVIL, HOW WILL YOU
  • 00:19:18.069 --> 00:19:19.570
  • CALLING 'EM EVIL, HOW WILL YOUEVER BE AROUND THEM LONG ENOUGH
  • 00:19:19.570 --> 00:19:20.504
  • EVER BE AROUND THEM LONG ENOUGHTO SHOW THE LIFE OF CHRIST?
  • 00:19:20.504 --> 00:19:21.872
  • TO SHOW THE LIFE OF CHRIST?IT'S SCARY!
  • 00:19:21.872 --> 00:19:23.941
  • IT'S SCARY!IT'S SCARY.
  • 00:19:23.941 --> 00:19:25.343
  • IT'S SCARY.WE'RE NOT LOVING LIKE JESUS.
  • 00:19:25.343 --> 00:19:26.043
  • WE'RE NOT LOVING LIKE JESUS.WE'RE SEPARATING OURSELVES AND
  • 00:19:26.043 --> 00:19:27.011
  • WE'RE SEPARATING OURSELVES ANDBEING SELF-RIGHTEOUS, AND WE'RE
  • 00:19:27.011 --> 00:19:28.212
  • BEING SELF-RIGHTEOUS, AND WE'RELACKING COMPASSION.
  • 00:19:28.212 --> 00:19:30.081
  • LACKING COMPASSION.AND THE SADDEST PART OF IT IS
  • 00:19:30.081 --> 00:19:32.450
  • AND THE SADDEST PART OF IT ISTHAT THE COMPASSION YOU REFUSE
  • 00:19:32.450 --> 00:19:33.017
  • THAT THE COMPASSION YOU REFUSETO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE, YOU
  • 00:19:33.017 --> 00:19:34.252
  • TO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE, YOUREFUSE TO GIVE TO YOURSELF.
  • 00:19:34.252 --> 00:19:35.386
  • REFUSE TO GIVE TO YOURSELF.YOU HAVE NO COMPASSION FOR
  • 00:19:35.386 --> 00:19:37.088
  • YOU HAVE NO COMPASSION FORYOURSELF.
  • 00:19:37.088 --> 00:19:38.055
  • YOURSELF.YOU'RE TEARING YOURSELF APART.
  • 00:19:38.055 --> 00:19:39.890
  • YOU'RE TEARING YOURSELF APART.YOU'RE SHREDDING YOURSELF.
  • 00:19:39.890 --> 00:19:40.958
  • YOU'RE SHREDDING YOURSELF.YOU'RE HOLDING YOURSELF TO
  • 00:19:40.958 --> 00:19:42.159
  • YOU'RE HOLDING YOURSELF TOIMPOSSIBLE STANDARDS.
  • 00:19:42.159 --> 00:19:43.261
  • IMPOSSIBLE STANDARDS.YOU'RE HOLDING YOURSELF TO
  • 00:19:43.261 --> 00:19:44.562
  • YOU'RE HOLDING YOURSELF TOBEING GUILTY FOR SOMETHING YOU
  • 00:19:44.562 --> 00:19:46.030
  • BEING GUILTY FOR SOMETHING YOUDID 10 YEARS AGO AND YOU'RE
  • 00:19:46.030 --> 00:19:47.465
  • DID 10 YEARS AGO AND YOU'RESTILL UPSET ABOUT IT, AND YOU
  • 00:19:47.465 --> 00:19:48.966
  • STILL UPSET ABOUT IT, AND YOUSTILL WON'T BRING THAT PAIN
  • 00:19:48.966 --> 00:19:50.201
  • STILL WON'T BRING THAT PAININTO GOD'S PRESENCE.
  • 00:19:50.201 --> 00:19:50.768
  • INTO GOD'S PRESENCE.YOU HAVE NO COMPASSION ON
  • 00:19:50.768 --> 00:19:51.736
  • YOU HAVE NO COMPASSION ONYOURSELF!
  • 00:19:51.736 --> 00:19:52.937
  • YOURSELF!THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T HAVE
  • 00:19:52.937 --> 00:19:53.971
  • THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T HAVECOMPASSION ON OTHER PEOPLE.
  • 00:19:53.971 --> 00:19:55.106
  • COMPASSION ON OTHER PEOPLE.AND IT'S UNDERMINING YOUR
  • 00:19:55.106 --> 00:19:55.940
  • AND IT'S UNDERMINING YOUREMOTIONAL HEALTH, IT'S
  • 00:19:55.940 --> 00:19:57.008
  • EMOTIONAL HEALTH, IT'SUNDERMINING YOUR MENTAL HEALTH,
  • 00:19:57.008 --> 00:19:58.776
  • UNDERMINING YOUR MENTAL HEALTH,BECAUSE YOU ARE DRAGGING AROUND
  • 00:19:58.776 --> 00:20:00.478
  • BECAUSE YOU ARE DRAGGING AROUNDALL THIS EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE AND
  • 00:20:00.478 --> 00:20:02.280
  • ALL THIS EMOTIONAL BAGGAGE ANDIT IS RUINING YOUR SPIRITUAL
  • 00:20:02.280 --> 00:20:03.781
  • IT IS RUINING YOUR SPIRITUALLIFE.
  • 00:20:03.781 --> 00:20:04.315
  • LIFE.IT'S NOT TAKING AWAY YOUR
  • 00:20:04.315 --> 00:20:05.616
  • IT'S NOT TAKING AWAY YOURSALVATION, BUT IT'S RUINING THE
  • 00:20:05.616 --> 00:20:07.818
  • SALVATION, BUT IT'S RUINING THEQUALITY OF YOUR SPIRITUAL LIFE.
  • 00:20:07.818 --> 00:20:09.353
  • QUALITY OF YOUR SPIRITUAL LIFE.BECAUSE YOU'RE CARRYING AROUND
  • 00:20:09.353 --> 00:20:11.656
  • BECAUSE YOU'RE CARRYING AROUNDALL THIS EMOTIONAL MESS.
  • 00:20:11.656 --> 00:20:12.957
  • ALL THIS EMOTIONAL MESS.AND SO, THAT EVIL THAT YOU CAN
  • 00:20:12.957 --> 00:20:14.625
  • AND SO, THAT EVIL THAT YOU CANTHROW AT ME...I KNOW YOU THROW
  • 00:20:14.625 --> 00:20:16.193
  • THROW AT ME...I KNOW YOU THROWIT AT YOURS-- YOU CAN THROW IT
  • 00:20:16.193 --> 00:20:16.994
  • IT AT YOURS-- YOU CAN THROW ITAT YOURSELF.
  • 00:20:16.994 --> 00:20:18.529
  • AT YOURSELF.AND EVEN IF YOU USE
  • 00:20:18.529 --> 00:20:19.930
  • AND EVEN IF YOU USESELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS AS A SHIELD,
  • 00:20:19.930 --> 00:20:21.032
  • SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS AS A SHIELD,YOU ARE IN TROUBLE.
  • 00:20:21.032 --> 00:20:22.867
  • YOU ARE IN TROUBLE.YOU ARE IN TROUBLE.
  • 00:20:22.867 --> 00:20:25.002
  • YOU ARE IN TROUBLE.SO, PLEASE...START PRACTICING
  • 00:20:25.002 --> 00:20:26.470
  • SO, PLEASE...START PRACTICINGSOME COMPASSION FOR YOURSELF,
  • 00:20:26.470 --> 00:20:28.039
  • SOME COMPASSION FOR YOURSELF,START PRACTICING SOME LOVE FOR
  • 00:20:28.039 --> 00:20:29.840
  • START PRACTICING SOME LOVE FORYOURSELF, SOME FORGIVENESS FOR
  • 00:20:29.840 --> 00:20:31.275
  • YOURSELF, SOME FORGIVENESS FORYOURSELF, AND RECOGNIZE, LIKE
  • 00:20:31.275 --> 00:20:32.476
  • YOURSELF, AND RECOGNIZE, LIKEPRISCILLA SAID: HEY, MAYBE I'M
  • 00:20:32.476 --> 00:20:33.944
  • PRISCILLA SAID: HEY, MAYBE I'MDRAGGING SOME STUFF FROM MY
  • 00:20:33.944 --> 00:20:34.679
  • DRAGGING SOME STUFF FROM MYCHILDHOOD.
  • 00:20:34.679 --> 00:20:35.646
  • CHILDHOOD.LIKE SHE SAID: LET ME LOOK AT
  • 00:20:35.646 --> 00:20:37.081
  • LIKE SHE SAID: LET ME LOOK ATMY HUSBAND THROUGH THIS LENS.
  • 00:20:37.081 --> 00:20:37.915
  • MY HUSBAND THROUGH THIS LENS.LET'S LOOK AT OURSELVES THROUGH
  • 00:20:37.915 --> 00:20:38.516
  • LET'S LOOK AT OURSELVES THROUGHTHAT LENS.
  • 00:20:38.516 --> 00:20:39.450
  • THAT LENS.MAYBE I'M DRAGGING SOME STUFF
  • 00:20:39.450 --> 00:20:40.318
  • MAYBE I'M DRAGGING SOME STUFFFROM MY CHILDHOOD THAT I NEED
  • 00:20:40.318 --> 00:20:41.185
  • FROM MY CHILDHOOD THAT I NEEDTO LAY DOWN.
  • 00:20:41.185 --> 00:20:42.386
  • TO LAY DOWN.AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I'M
  • 00:20:42.386 --> 00:20:43.721
  • AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I'MSNAPPING ON PEOPLE.
  • 00:20:43.721 --> 00:20:44.455
  • SNAPPING ON PEOPLE.BECAUSE OF THAT, I AM
  • 00:20:44.455 --> 00:20:45.156
  • BECAUSE OF THAT, I AMIMPATIENT.
  • 00:20:45.156 --> 00:20:45.890
  • IMPATIENT.BECAUSE OF THAT, I AM
  • 00:20:45.890 --> 00:20:46.757
  • BECAUSE OF THAT, I AMDEPRESSED.
  • 00:20:46.757 --> 00:20:47.992
  • DEPRESSED.AND, YEAH, WE'VE PRAYED ABOUT
  • 00:20:47.992 --> 00:20:49.427
  • AND, YEAH, WE'VE PRAYED ABOUTIT AND WE'VE PUT SCRIPTURES ON
  • 00:20:49.427 --> 00:20:52.763
  • IT AND WE'VE PUT SCRIPTURES ONIT, BUT IT'S STILL HERE.
  • 00:20:52.763 --> 00:20:53.264
  • IT, BUT IT'S STILL HERE.IF, EMOTIONALLY, YOU ARE
  • 00:20:53.264 --> 00:20:55.866
  • IF, EMOTIONALLY, YOU AREFEELING HORRIBLE AND BAD, MORE
  • 00:20:55.866 --> 00:20:58.102
  • FEELING HORRIBLE AND BAD, MOREDAYS OF THE WEEK THAN NOT, MORE
  • 00:20:58.102 --> 00:21:00.037
  • DAYS OF THE WEEK THAN NOT, MOREMONTHS OF THE YEAR THAN NOT,
  • 00:21:00.037 --> 00:21:01.405
  • MONTHS OF THE YEAR THAN NOT,YOU MAY NEED SOME OTHER HELP.
  • 00:21:01.405 --> 00:21:02.173
  • YOU MAY NEED SOME OTHER HELP.AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW IT'S
  • 00:21:02.173 --> 00:21:03.107
  • AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW IT'SOKAY FOR CHRISTIANS TO GO TO
  • 00:21:03.107 --> 00:21:04.475
  • OKAY FOR CHRISTIANS TO GO TOTHERAPY AND GET THAT HELP.
  • 00:21:04.475 --> 00:21:05.543
  • THERAPY AND GET THAT HELP.IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE NOT
  • 00:21:05.543 --> 00:21:06.577
  • IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE NOTA CHRISTIAN.
  • 00:21:06.577 --> 00:21:07.611
  • A CHRISTIAN.IT JUST MEANS THAT GOD HAS
  • 00:21:07.611 --> 00:21:08.612
  • IT JUST MEANS THAT GOD HASGAINED A SPACE FOR YOU TO HAVE
  • 00:21:08.612 --> 00:21:09.113
  • GAINED A SPACE FOR YOU TO HAVEHELP.
  • 00:21:09.113 --> 00:21:11.916
  • HELP.SO, IF YOU'RE STRUGGLING TO
  • 00:21:11.916 --> 00:21:13.017
  • SO, IF YOU'RE STRUGGLING TOLOVE, THEN SOMETHING HAS
  • 00:21:13.017 --> 00:21:13.884
  • LOVE, THEN SOMETHING HASHARDENED THAT HEART,
  • 00:21:13.884 --> 00:21:14.452
  • HARDENED THAT HEART,SOMETHING'S MADE IT STONY,
  • 00:21:14.452 --> 00:21:15.286
  • SOMETHING'S MADE IT STONY,SOMETHING'S MADE IT COLD TO
  • 00:21:15.286 --> 00:21:16.220
  • SOMETHING'S MADE IT COLD TOPROTECT YOU.
  • 00:21:16.220 --> 00:21:17.355
  • PROTECT YOU.AND IF YOU ALLOW GOD TO HELP
  • 00:21:17.355 --> 00:21:18.522
  • AND IF YOU ALLOW GOD TO HELPYOU GET HEALING THROUGH THE
  • 00:21:18.522 --> 00:21:19.824
  • YOU GET HEALING THROUGH THEWORD, AND CHURCH, WITH YOUR
  • 00:21:19.824 --> 00:21:21.292
  • WORD, AND CHURCH, WITH YOURFRIENDS, AND AT THE THERAPY
  • 00:21:21.292 --> 00:21:22.393
  • FRIENDS, AND AT THE THERAPYOFFICE -- MAN, WHEN THAT HEART
  • 00:21:22.393 --> 00:21:24.161
  • OFFICE -- MAN, WHEN THAT HEARTBECOMES FERTILE GROUND FOR GOOD
  • 00:21:24.161 --> 00:21:25.129
  • BECOMES FERTILE GROUND FOR GOODTHINGS, AGAIN...YOU'LL BE SO
  • 00:21:25.129 --> 00:21:27.098
  • THINGS, AGAIN...YOU'LL BE SOGLAD THAT YOU DID.
  • 00:21:27.098 --> 00:21:28.332
  • GLAD THAT YOU DID.AND YOU'LL BE A BETTER
  • 00:21:28.332 --> 00:21:29.533
  • AND YOU'LL BE A BETTERREPRESENTATIVE OF JESUS, IN
  • 00:21:29.533 --> 00:21:31.435
  • REPRESENTATIVE OF JESUS, INTHIS WORLD.
  • 00:21:31.435 --> 00:21:32.937
  • THIS WORLD.AND THAT IS WORTH ANYTHING.
  • 00:21:32.937 --> 00:21:35.106
  • AND THAT IS WORTH ANYTHING.THAT'S WORTH ANYTHING.
  • 00:21:35.106 --> 00:21:36.440
  • THAT'S WORTH ANYTHING.- LAURIE: WELL, THANKS FOR
  • 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:37.708
  • - LAURIE: WELL, THANKS FORJOINING US, TODAY, FOLKS.
  • 00:21:37.708 --> 00:21:39.944
  • JOINING US, TODAY, FOLKS.THAT WAS AWESOME.
  • 00:21:39.944 --> 00:21:41.445
  • THAT WAS AWESOME.YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT,
  • 00:21:41.445 --> 00:21:42.580
  • YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT,ANITA-- I THINK YOU'RE TALKING
  • 00:21:42.580 --> 00:21:43.881
  • ANITA-- I THINK YOU'RE TALKINGABOUT EVERY PERSON ON THE
  • 00:21:43.881 --> 00:21:46.617
  • ABOUT EVERY PERSON ON THEPLANET, RIGHT NOW.
  • 00:21:46.617 --> 00:21:48.519
  • PLANET, RIGHT NOW.AND, WE NEED TO STOP LABELING
  • 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:49.420
  • AND, WE NEED TO STOP LABELINGEVERYBODY.
  • 00:21:49.420 --> 00:21:50.654
  • EVERYBODY.WE NEED TO GET OUT OF OUR
  • 00:21:50.654 --> 00:21:51.856
  • WE NEED TO GET OUT OF OURBOXES.
  • 00:21:51.856 --> 00:21:52.923
  • BOXES.AND, THERE'S TWO BOXES.
  • 00:21:52.923 --> 00:21:53.624
  • AND, THERE'S TWO BOXES.THERE'S THE LOVE BOX AND
  • 00:21:53.624 --> 00:21:56.627
  • THERE'S THE LOVE BOX ANDTHE...HATE BOX.
  • 00:21:56.627 --> 00:21:57.361
  • THE...HATE BOX.[LAUGHS]
  • 00:21:57.361 --> 00:21:58.195
  • [LAUGHS]WE ALL NEED TO JUMP IN THAT
  • 00:21:58.195 --> 00:21:59.263
  • WE ALL NEED TO JUMP IN THATLOVE BOX.
  • 00:21:59.263 --> 00:22:00.765
  • LOVE BOX.AND I THINK-- YOU KNOW, I THINK
  • 00:22:00.765 --> 00:22:02.867
  • AND I THINK-- YOU KNOW, I THINKEVERYBODY WOULD SAY, PRISCILLA,
  • 00:22:02.867 --> 00:22:04.902
  • EVERYBODY WOULD SAY, PRISCILLA,THAT THIS YEAR HAS BEEN SUCH A
  • 00:22:04.902 --> 00:22:08.239
  • THAT THIS YEAR HAS BEEN SUCH AYEAR OF TESTING AND TRIALS.
  • 00:22:08.239 --> 00:22:10.775
  • YEAR OF TESTING AND TRIALS.BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE
  • 00:22:10.775 --> 00:22:11.842
  • BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBECHANGE THAT AND SAY MAYBE THIS
  • 00:22:11.842 --> 00:22:13.277
  • CHANGE THAT AND SAY MAYBE THISIS THE YEAR OF PROVING.
  • 00:22:13.277 --> 00:22:15.413
  • IS THE YEAR OF PROVING.MAYBE THIS IS THE YEAR OF GOD
  • 00:22:15.413 --> 00:22:16.881
  • MAYBE THIS IS THE YEAR OF GODPROVING HIMSELF THROUGH YOU.
  • 00:22:16.881 --> 00:22:18.549
  • PROVING HIMSELF THROUGH YOU.MAYBE THIS IS THE YEAR THAT GOD
  • 00:22:18.549 --> 00:22:21.051
  • MAYBE THIS IS THE YEAR THAT GODWOULD GIVE YOU, UM, THE
  • 00:22:21.051 --> 00:22:23.487
  • WOULD GIVE YOU, UM, THEOPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING
  • 00:22:23.487 --> 00:22:25.055
  • OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHINGYOU'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE.
  • 00:22:25.055 --> 00:22:26.724
  • YOU'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE.MAYBE TO REACH OUT WITH
  • 00:22:26.724 --> 00:22:28.626
  • MAYBE TO REACH OUT WITHCOMPASSION LIKE YOU'VE NEVER
  • 00:22:28.626 --> 00:22:31.495
  • COMPASSION LIKE YOU'VE NEVERMAYBE FELT BEFORE, AND TO HAVE
  • 00:22:31.495 --> 00:22:32.963
  • MAYBE FELT BEFORE, AND TO HAVEFEELINGS, UH, PRISCILLA -- UH,
  • 00:22:32.963 --> 00:22:36.167
  • FEELINGS, UH, PRISCILLA -- UH,SHOWING EMPATHY AND LOVE, AND
  • 00:22:36.167 --> 00:22:37.535
  • SHOWING EMPATHY AND LOVE, ANDDEFAULTING TO LOVE, EVERY TIME.
  • 00:22:37.535 --> 00:22:38.202
  • DEFAULTING TO LOVE, EVERY TIME.WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A WHITE
  • 00:22:38.202 --> 00:22:41.238
  • WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A WHITEBOX OR A BLACK BOX; OR A
  • 00:22:41.238 --> 00:22:43.507
  • BOX OR A BLACK BOX; OR AREPUBLICAN BOX OR A DEMOCRAT--
  • 00:22:43.507 --> 00:22:44.842
  • REPUBLICAN BOX OR A DEMOCRAT--WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.
  • 00:22:44.842 --> 00:22:46.610
  • WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR FELLOW
  • 00:22:46.610 --> 00:22:47.711
  • WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR FELLOWBROTHERS AND SISTERS, EVERYONE
  • 00:22:47.711 --> 00:22:50.214
  • BROTHERS AND SISTERS, EVERYONETHAT WAS MADE IN GOD'S
  • 00:22:50.214 --> 00:22:51.549
  • THAT WAS MADE IN GOD'SBEAUTIFUL IMAGE, AND TO SEE GOD
  • 00:22:51.549 --> 00:22:55.953
  • BEAUTIFUL IMAGE, AND TO SEE GODINSIDE OF EVERY HUMAN BEING.
  • 00:22:55.953 --> 00:22:58.522
  • INSIDE OF EVERY HUMAN BEING.AND, UM, THAT'S BEEN...
  • 00:22:58.522 --> 00:23:00.825
  • AND, UM, THAT'S BEEN...DIFFICULT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE,
  • 00:23:00.825 --> 00:23:02.326
  • DIFFICULT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE,UH, ESPECIALLY...ESPECIALLY
  • 00:23:02.326 --> 00:23:03.627
  • UH, ESPECIALLY...ESPECIALLYTHIS YEAR.
  • 00:23:03.627 --> 00:23:06.063
  • THIS YEAR.I MEAN, THE CIRCUMSTANCES
  • 00:23:06.063 --> 00:23:08.699
  • I MEAN, THE CIRCUMSTANCESSURROUNDING, UM...EVERYTHING.
  • 00:23:08.699 --> 00:23:10.868
  • SURROUNDING, UM...EVERYTHING.WE NEED TO RUN THIS RACE WE'VE
  • 00:23:10.868 --> 00:23:12.236
  • WE NEED TO RUN THIS RACE WE'VEBEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS WEEK.
  • 00:23:12.236 --> 00:23:13.537
  • BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS WEEK.WE NEED TO RUN IT.
  • 00:23:13.537 --> 00:23:14.438
  • WE NEED TO RUN IT.WE NEED TO FOCUS.
  • 00:23:14.438 --> 00:23:15.940
  • WE NEED TO FOCUS.WE NEED TO RUN.
  • 00:23:15.940 --> 00:23:17.208
  • WE NEED TO RUN.WE NEED TO RUN WITH COMPASSION.
  • 00:23:17.208 --> 00:23:19.743
  • WE NEED TO RUN WITH COMPASSION.WE NEED TO RUN WITH MERCY AND
  • 00:23:19.743 --> 00:23:21.645
  • WE NEED TO RUN WITH MERCY ANDLOVE AND GRACE TO EVERYBODY
  • 00:23:21.645 --> 00:23:24.048
  • LOVE AND GRACE TO EVERYBODYTHAT SURROUNDS US.
  • 00:23:24.048 --> 00:23:26.450
  • THAT SURROUNDS US.AND, UM, WE NEED A LOT TO LAY
  • 00:23:26.450 --> 00:23:27.985
  • AND, UM, WE NEED A LOT TO LAYAT THE FOOT OF THE CROSS.
  • 00:23:27.985 --> 00:23:29.753
  • AT THE FOOT OF THE CROSS.I JUST LOVE YOU ALL.
  • 00:23:29.753 --> 00:23:30.955
  • I JUST LOVE YOU ALL.UH, NATALIE, YOU HAVEN'T PRAYED
  • 00:23:30.955 --> 00:23:32.256
  • UH, NATALIE, YOU HAVEN'T PRAYEDTHIS WEEK.
  • 00:23:32.256 --> 00:23:33.524
  • THIS WEEK.WOULD YOU LIKE TO...TO PRAY US
  • 00:23:33.524 --> 00:23:34.825
  • WOULD YOU LIKE TO...TO PRAY USOUT THIS WEEK?
  • 00:23:34.825 --> 00:23:35.359
  • OUT THIS WEEK?- NATALIE: ABSOLUTELY.
  • 00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:35.860
  • - NATALIE: ABSOLUTELY.- LAURIE: THIS HAS BEEN
  • 00:23:35.860 --> 00:23:36.760
  • - LAURIE: THIS HAS BEENBEAUTIFUL...BEAUTIFUL,
  • 00:23:36.760 --> 00:23:38.863
  • BEAUTIFUL...BEAUTIFUL,BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:23:38.863 --> 00:23:39.497
  • BEAUTIFUL.- NATALIE: LORD...LORD, FATHER
  • 00:23:39.497 --> 00:23:40.831
  • - NATALIE: LORD...LORD, FATHERGOD, I FEEL LIKE...I'M MORE
  • 00:23:40.831 --> 00:23:42.466
  • GOD, I FEEL LIKE...I'M MOREREMINDED THAN EVER THAT WE NEED
  • 00:23:42.466 --> 00:23:42.933
  • REMINDED THAN EVER THAT WE NEEDYOU.
  • 00:23:42.933 --> 00:23:46.136
  • YOU.JESUS, WE NEED YOU.
  • 00:23:46.136 --> 00:23:48.072
  • JESUS, WE NEED YOU.WE NEED YOUR PRESENCE TO
  • 00:23:48.072 --> 00:23:49.707
  • WE NEED YOUR PRESENCE TOPERMEATE EVERY ASPECT OF OUR
  • 00:23:49.707 --> 00:23:51.008
  • PERMEATE EVERY ASPECT OF OURLIVES.
  • 00:23:51.008 --> 00:23:52.543
  • LIVES.HOLY SPIRIT, WOULD YOU COME AND
  • 00:23:52.543 --> 00:23:55.846
  • HOLY SPIRIT, WOULD YOU COME ANDWOULD YOU BEGIN TO CONTROL OUR
  • 00:23:55.846 --> 00:23:58.015
  • WOULD YOU BEGIN TO CONTROL OURTHOUGHTS, AND OUR EMOTIONS, AND
  • 00:23:58.015 --> 00:24:00.384
  • THOUGHTS, AND OUR EMOTIONS, ANDOUR-- OUR HEARTS, IN A NEW AND
  • 00:24:00.384 --> 00:24:01.051
  • OUR-- OUR HEARTS, IN A NEW ANDA FRESH WAY?
  • 00:24:01.051 --> 00:24:04.955
  • A FRESH WAY?GOD, I PRAY FOR SO MANY WHO ARE
  • 00:24:04.955 --> 00:24:06.257
  • GOD, I PRAY FOR SO MANY WHO AREWATCHING THAT JUST NEED TO
  • 00:24:06.257 --> 00:24:08.259
  • WATCHING THAT JUST NEED TOLEARN HOW TO ACTUALLY SUBMIT
  • 00:24:08.259 --> 00:24:08.926
  • LEARN HOW TO ACTUALLY SUBMITTHEIR HEART AND THEIR MIND TO
  • 00:24:08.926 --> 00:24:09.793
  • THEIR HEART AND THEIR MIND TOYOU.
  • 00:24:09.793 --> 00:24:13.130
  • YOU.UM, HOW TO LAY DOWN THEIR HURT,
  • 00:24:13.130 --> 00:24:14.598
  • UM, HOW TO LAY DOWN THEIR HURT,HOW TO LAY DOWN ANGER AND
  • 00:24:14.598 --> 00:24:16.133
  • HOW TO LAY DOWN ANGER ANDBITTERNESS, AND TO ALLOW THE
  • 00:24:16.133 --> 00:24:18.536
  • BITTERNESS, AND TO ALLOW THEHOLY SPIRIT, UM, TO TAKE OVER
  • 00:24:18.536 --> 00:24:20.437
  • HOLY SPIRIT, UM, TO TAKE OVERTHAT ASPECT OF THEIR LIFE.
  • 00:24:20.437 --> 00:24:21.805
  • THAT ASPECT OF THEIR LIFE.AND, LORD, I ALSO JUST PRAY, AS
  • 00:24:21.805 --> 00:24:24.174
  • AND, LORD, I ALSO JUST PRAY, ASWE WRAP THIS CONVERSATION,
  • 00:24:24.174 --> 00:24:26.544
  • WE WRAP THIS CONVERSATION,TODAY, FOR YOUR CAPITAL-"C"
  • 00:24:26.544 --> 00:24:28.145
  • TODAY, FOR YOUR CAPITAL-"C"CHURCH, AS HOSANNA SAYS SO
  • 00:24:28.145 --> 00:24:29.179
  • CHURCH, AS HOSANNA SAYS SOOFTEN; GOD, THAT YOU WOULD MAKE
  • 00:24:29.179 --> 00:24:32.283
  • OFTEN; GOD, THAT YOU WOULD MAKEUS MORE UNIFIED THAN EVER
  • 00:24:32.283 --> 00:24:35.052
  • US MORE UNIFIED THAN EVERBEFORE; THAT OUR CONVERSATION
  • 00:24:35.052 --> 00:24:36.887
  • BEFORE; THAT OUR CONVERSATIONWOULD NOT BE A DISTRACTION FROM
  • 00:24:36.887 --> 00:24:39.089
  • WOULD NOT BE A DISTRACTION FROMTHE GOSPEL, BUT THAT OUR
  • 00:24:39.089 --> 00:24:41.325
  • THE GOSPEL, BUT THAT OURCOMPASSION, OUR LOVE, OUR
  • 00:24:41.325 --> 00:24:43.627
  • COMPASSION, OUR LOVE, OUREMPATHY, AND OUR UNITY WOULD BE
  • 00:24:43.627 --> 00:24:46.330
  • EMPATHY, AND OUR UNITY WOULD BEAN ATTRACTION FOR A WORLD THAT
  • 00:24:46.330 --> 00:24:48.098
  • AN ATTRACTION FOR A WORLD THATNEEDS JESUS MORE THAN EVER
  • 00:24:48.098 --> 00:24:49.733
  • NEEDS JESUS MORE THAN EVERBEFORE.
  • 00:24:49.733 --> 00:24:51.435
  • BEFORE.SO, GOD, WE NEED YOU.
  • 00:24:51.435 --> 00:24:53.971
  • SO, GOD, WE NEED YOU.WE RECOGNIZE THAT YOU ARE ON
  • 00:24:53.971 --> 00:24:57.007
  • WE RECOGNIZE THAT YOU ARE ONTHE THRONE, THAT YOU ARE IN
  • 00:24:57.007 --> 00:24:57.675
  • THE THRONE, THAT YOU ARE INCONTROL, AND THAT YOU ARE
  • 00:24:57.675 --> 00:24:58.208
  • CONTROL, AND THAT YOU ARESOVEREIGN OVER ALL THINGS.
  • 00:24:58.208 --> 00:25:00.311
  • SOVEREIGN OVER ALL THINGS.AND WE LOVE YOU.
  • 00:25:00.311 --> 00:25:01.478
  • AND WE LOVE YOU.IN JESUS' NAME, I PRAY.
  • 00:25:01.478 --> 00:25:02.813
  • IN JESUS' NAME, I PRAY.AMEN.
  • 00:25:02.813 --> 00:25:03.614
  • AMEN.- LAURIE: AMEN...
  • 00:25:03.614 --> 00:25:05.449
  • - LAURIE: AMEN...SO BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:25:05.449 --> 00:25:07.551
  • SO BEAUTIFUL.SO BEAUTIFUL.
  • 00:25:07.551 --> 00:25:08.319
  • SO BEAUTIFUL.YOU KNOW, OUR "BETTER TOGETHER"
  • 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:08.886
  • YOU KNOW, OUR "BETTER TOGETHER"COMMUNITY IS ALWAYS HERE FOR
  • 00:25:08.886 --> 00:25:09.887
  • COMMUNITY IS ALWAYS HERE FORYOU.
  • 00:25:09.887 --> 00:25:11.188
  • YOU.YOU CAN CONNECT WITH US ON
  • 00:25:11.188 --> 00:25:12.656
  • YOU CAN CONNECT WITH US ONSOCIAL AND LET US KNOW HOW WE
  • 00:25:12.656 --> 00:25:14.658
  • SOCIAL AND LET US KNOW HOW WECAN PRAY FOR YOU.
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  • CAN PRAY FOR YOU.THANKS FOR JOINING US, TODAY.
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  • THANKS FOR JOINING US, TODAY.THANKS FOR JOINING US ALL WEEK.
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  • THANKS FOR JOINING US ALL WEEK.THIS HAS JUST BEEN AMAZING.
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  • THIS HAS JUST BEEN AMAZING.WE PRAY THAT OUR CONVERSATIONS
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  • WE PRAY THAT OUR CONVERSATIONSHAVE ENCOURAGED YOU TO TURN TO
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  • HAVE ENCOURAGED YOU TO TURN TOGOD TO FIND STRENGTH, TO HOPE,
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  • GOD TO FIND STRENGTH, TO HOPE,AND TO HAVE COMPASSION.
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  • AND TO HAVE COMPASSION.IF YOU'VE MISSED ANY OF THE
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  • OR, ON THE TBN APP.WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
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  • WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.THAT'S WHY GOD CALLS US TO BE
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  • THAT'S WHY GOD CALLS US TO BESALT AND LIGHT IN THIS WORLD.
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  • SALT AND LIGHT IN THIS WORLD.NEXT WEEK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
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  • NEXT WEEK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUTBEING AGENTS OF CHANGE TO TAKE
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  • BEING AGENTS OF CHANGE TO TAKEA HOLD OF OUR FUTURE AND PASS
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  • A HOLD OF OUR FUTURE AND PASSTHE TORCH ONTO THE NEXT
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  • THE TORCH ONTO THE NEXTGENERATION.
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  • GENERATION.WE'LL SEE YOU ON MONDAY.
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  • WE'LL SEE YOU ON MONDAY.BYE-BYE.
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