Jonathan Bernis: Deeper Faith, Richer Experience | Jewish Voice Ministries

August 6, 2025 | S25 E34 | 28:34

Discover an element of Scripture that will deepen your faith.

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Jewish Voice with Jonathan Bernis | Jonathan Bernis: Deeper Faith, Richer Experience | Jewish Voice Ministries | August 6, 2025
  • Coming back again.
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  • And he's not coming
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  • And he's not coming back to new york,
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  • Back to new york, he's not coming back to greece,
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  • He's not coming back to greece, but he's coming
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  • But he's coming back to jerusalem.
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  • Back to jerusalem. and if we remove
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  • And if we remove the importance of
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  • The importance of the whole story,
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  • The whole story, the old testament and new,
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  • The old testament and new, then we as believers
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  • Then we as believers will not be ready
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  • Will not be ready and we will not recognize
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  • And we will not recognize when the messiah returns.
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  • >> announcer: petra scott is
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  • President and ceo of
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  • The road to jerusalem.
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  • She believes that unity
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  • Between jews and gentiles
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  • Can change homes, communities,
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  • And the world.
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  • Petra is a wife,
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  • Mom to three beautiful children,
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  • And the author of, "intimacy,
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  • Unlearning religion,
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  • Embracing god."
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  • Today on jewish voice.
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  • ♪ ♪
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  • >> discover how understanding
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  • >> discover how understanding the jewish roots of your faith
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  • The jewish roots of your faith can transform your life
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  • Can transform your life and the way you read the bible.
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  • And the way you read the bible. coming up on jewish voice.
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  • ♪ ♪
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  • >> please join me in
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  • >> please join me in welcoming petra scott.
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  • Welcoming petra scott. petra, welcome.
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  • Petra, welcome. >> hey.
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  • >> hey. >> i'm so glad to have you on.
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  • >> i'm so glad to have you on. i've been wanting you on
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  • I've been wanting you on for a long time.
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  • For a long time. your dad was a major figure
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  • Your dad was a major figure in promise keepers during
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  • In promise keepers during the golden years
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  • The golden years of promise keepers.
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  • Of promise keepers. some of you remember
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  • Some of you remember promise keepers,
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  • Promise keepers, he was the vice president
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  • He was the vice president of reconciliation.
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  • Of reconciliation. >> yes.
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  • >> yes. >> and coach mccartney,
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  • >> and coach mccartney, of course, was the founder
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  • Of course, was the founder of promise keepers
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  • Of promise keepers who just recently went
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  • Who just recently went to be with the lord.
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  • To be with the lord. but they were
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  • But they were so connected together.
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  • So connected together. >> they were.
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  • >> they were. >> and i had the opportunity
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  • >> and i had the opportunity to join the board,
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  • To join the board, and they were a --
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  • And they were a -- quite a force together.
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  • Quite a force together. >> a force to be reckoned with.
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  • >> a force to be reckoned with. >> a force to be reckoned with.
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  • >> a force to be reckoned with. >> and in '96, actually,
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  • >> and in '96, actually, while they were
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  • While they were at promise keepers,
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  • At promise keepers, that's the first time
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  • That's the first time that they encountered
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  • That they encountered rabbi solomon,
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  • Rabbi solomon, who's also gone
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  • Who's also gone to be with the lord.
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  • To be with the lord. they encountered him and that
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  • They encountered him and that was their first exposure
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  • Was their first exposure to the messianic community.
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  • To the messianic community. >> they had been reconciling
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  • >> they had been reconciling all of these different groups,
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  • All of these different groups, the black community,
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  • The black community, the afri -- the asian community,
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  • The afri -- the asian community, the latin community,
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  • The latin community, but they forget about
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  • But they forget about the jewish believers.
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  • The jewish believers. and they were confronted
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  • And they were confronted with that and it changed them.
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  • With that and it changed them. >> they were.
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  • >> they were. they had no idea.
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  • They had no idea. and when my dad set out
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  • And when my dad set out on that mission
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  • On that mission to figure out who are
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  • To figure out who are these jewish believers
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  • These jewish believers and why is it important
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  • And why is it important for us as christians,
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  • For us as christians, as gentiles, to know
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  • As gentiles, to know who they are and to be in
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  • Who they are and to be in relationship with them,
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  • Relationship with them, well, from that sojourn
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  • Well, from that sojourn is what birthed
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  • Is what birthed the road to jerusalem.
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  • The road to jerusalem. >> and they drank
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  • >> and they drank the kool-aid, basically.
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  • The kool-aid, basically. >> they drank the kool-aid.
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  • >> they drank the kool-aid. >> yeah, they sure did.
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  • >> yeah, they sure did. >> yes, and when they did
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  • >> yes, and when they did their very first conference,
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  • Their very first conference, it was when i was in college
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  • It was when i was in college and that was in palm springs.
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  • And that was in palm springs. and i drove down,
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  • And i drove down, went to the conference,
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  • Went to the conference, and i remember feeling
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  • And i remember feeling very confused, like,
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  • Very confused, like, "dad, we're african american,
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  • "dad, we're african american, you know.
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  • You know. we're from the church.
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  • We're from the church. what is this jewish
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  • What is this jewish stuff you're doing?
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  • Stuff you're doing? you know?
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  • You know? you can go to israel
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  • You can go to israel to experience this.
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  • To experience this. why are you -- you know,
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  • Why are you -- you know, why do you have this passion?"
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  • Why do you have this passion?" >> it seemed totally odd to you.
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  • >> it seemed totally odd to you. >> it was odd.
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  • >> it was odd. it seemed very out of place,
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  • It seemed very out of place, and i was very resistant
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  • And i was very resistant to it at first.
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  • To it at first. and this is why
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  • And this is why it was so profound
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  • It was so profound when at that conference
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  • When at that conference i met for the first time
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  • I met for the first time messianic jewish young adults.
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  • Messianic jewish young adults. and we connected just out
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  • And we connected just out of a pure love for yeshua.
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  • Of a pure love for yeshua. and we were sitting
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  • And we were sitting at a table with some of them
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  • At a table with some of them and i began to kind of feel
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  • And i began to kind of feel some type of way.
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  • Some type of way. i said, "you know,
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  • I said, "you know, what's so special about
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  • What's so special about these jewish brothers?
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  • These jewish brothers? you know.
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  • You know. i'm in bible school.
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  • I'm in bible school. i know the word."
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  • I know the word." and we just started talking
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  • And we just started talking about the word of god.
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  • About the word of god. now, i'm in ministry school,
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  • Now, i'm in ministry school, none of them were.
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  • None of them were. and it was like in that moment,
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  • And it was like in that moment, they were just talking
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  • They were just talking about the word.
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  • About the word. they were
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  • They were [speaking in hebrew]
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  • [speaking in hebrew] and i'm --
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  • And i'm -- jaw on the floor saying --
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  • Jaw on the floor saying -- >> speaking hebrew prayers.
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  • >> speaking hebrew prayers. >> "who are these people?"
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  • >> "who are these people?" and in that moment, jonathan,
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  • And in that moment, jonathan, time stood still for me.
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  • Time stood still for me. and the holy spirit said to me,
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  • And the holy spirit said to me, "daughter, you know me
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  • "daughter, you know me in my divinity.
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  • In my divinity. you know about the cross.
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  • You know about the cross. you know about the miracles
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  • You know about the miracles that i perform,
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  • That i perform, but you have no idea
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  • But you have no idea who i am and my humanity.
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  • Who i am and my humanity. you don't know
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  • You don't know who i am as a jewish man."
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  • Who i am as a jewish man." and so, in that moment,
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  • And so, in that moment, i felt like, "here's jesus,
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  • I felt like, "here's jesus, the center of my life."
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  • The center of my life." i had the wwjd bracelets.
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  • I had the wwjd bracelets. "what would jesus do?"
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  • "what would jesus do?" but i didn't know anything
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  • But i didn't know anything about what he would do.
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  • About what he would do. i didn't know
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  • I didn't know the totality of who he was.
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  • The totality of who he was. and so, that set me
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  • And so, that set me on a mission to learn more
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  • On a mission to learn more about the humanity
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  • About the humanity of my lord and savior.
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  • Of my lord and savior. and you can't just love
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  • And you can't just love his humanity
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  • His humanity and him being a jewish man
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  • And him being a jewish man without loving his people.
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  • Without loving his people. and so, i became crazy in love
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  • And so, i became crazy in love with the jewish people
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  • With the jewish people and god's heart for seeing
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  • And god's heart for seeing jew and gentile together as one.
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  • Jew and gentile together as one. >> how come that happened to you
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  • >> how come that happened to you and so many christians
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  • And so many christians don't have the slightest
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  • Don't have the slightest idea of this?
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  • Idea of this? >> you know, one of the things
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  • >> you know, one of the things that i learned early on
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  • That i learned early on when i was going through
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  • When i was going through this transition was that
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  • This transition was that i contextualized jesus
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  • I contextualized jesus to look like me.
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  • To look like me. he was this black man
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  • He was this black man with some dreadlocks.
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  • With some dreadlocks. he had a six pack, you know.
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  • He had a six pack, you know. he looked like me.
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  • He looked like me. he dressed like me.
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  • He dressed like me. and every time
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  • And every time i would read scripture
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  • I would read scripture or pray, what i was seeing,
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  • Or pray, what i was seeing, who i was engaging with,
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  • Who i was engaging with, was a jesus that
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  • Was a jesus that was comfortable to me.
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  • Was comfortable to me. but the reality is
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  • But the reality is we have to recognize that
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  • We have to recognize that when we accept yeshua,
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  • When we accept yeshua, jesus into our heart
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  • Jesus into our heart that we're entering
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  • That we're entering into his story, his kingdom,
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  • Into his story, his kingdom, and we have to understand
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  • And we have to understand who he was, who he is,
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  • Who he was, who he is, and who he is to come.
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  • And who he is to come. >> talk about some of
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  • >> talk about some of the scriptures
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  • The scriptures that dramatically
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  • That dramatically changed your direction,
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  • Changed your direction, your calling, your ministry.
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  • Your calling, your ministry. there's a few scriptures.
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  • There's a few scriptures. >> yeah, well, john 17
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  • >> yeah, well, john 17 is my favorite,
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  • Is my favorite, and the thing about john 17
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  • And the thing about john 17 is this, i'm sure
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  • Is this, i'm sure this is true for you.
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  • This is true for you. i know it's true
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  • I know it's true for every believer.
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  • For every believer. if you wanna know
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  • If you wanna know the priority in your life,
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  • The priority in your life, then we should spy on
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  • Then we should spy on your prayer life.
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  • Your prayer life. what we pray about reveals
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  • What we pray about reveals what our priorities are.
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  • What our priorities are. and john 17
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  • And john 17 is the longest prayer
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  • Is the longest prayer that yeshua prays in scripture.
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  • That yeshua prays in scripture. and so, if i'm a believer,
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  • And so, if i'm a believer, i'm going, "i think this prayer
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  • I'm going, "i think this prayer is gonna give me insight
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  • Is gonna give me insight into what's most important
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  • Into what's most important to our lord and savior."
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  • To our lord and savior." and in this prayer,
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  • And in this prayer, he's crying out to the father
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  • He's crying out to the father in his most trying moment.
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  • In his most trying moment. and he's saying,
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  • And he's saying, "lord, my desire
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  • "lord, my desire is that these and those,"
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  • Is that these and those," these, his jewish disciples,
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  • These, his jewish disciples, those, the nations,
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  • Those, the nations, the gentiles,
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  • The gentiles, "they would later
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  • "they would later reach for the gospel.
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  • Reach for the gospel. my desire is that
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  • My desire is that they would be one
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  • They would be one as you and i are one,"
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  • As you and i are one," that's covenantal relationship,
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  • That's covenantal relationship, "so that the world
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  • "so that the world may believe you sent me."
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  • May believe you sent me." worldwide revival.
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  • Worldwide revival. that's the answer to
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  • That's the answer to bringing in god's revival.
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  • Bringing in god's revival. it's seeing this unity,
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  • It's seeing this unity, this interdependent connection
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  • This interdependent connection and relationship with
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  • And relationship with jew and gentile.
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  • Jew and gentile. it's the number one
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  • It's the number one prayer of our lord,
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  • Prayer of our lord, but it's also the number one
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  • But it's also the number one attack of the enemy.
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  • Attack of the enemy. >> i don't know if any of you
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  • >> i don't know if any of you have ever heard this before.
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  • Have ever heard this before. this is just -- it's amazing
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  • This is just -- it's amazing to hear it from someone like you
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  • To hear it from someone like you that wasn't brought up jewish,
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  • That wasn't brought up jewish, that was -- grew up in
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  • That was -- grew up in the african american community.
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  • The african american community. and you were so weirded out
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  • And you were so weirded out by this whole direction,
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  • By this whole direction, but then the light came on.
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  • But then the light came on. >> it came on.
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  • >> it came on. >> what was
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  • >> what was the lightning bolt moment?
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  • The lightning bolt moment? your dad -- you talked
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  • Your dad -- you talked about your dad had
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  • About your dad had a lightning bolt moment.
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  • A lightning bolt moment. >> yeah.
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  • >> yeah. >> right?
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  • >> right? when he realized
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  • When he realized that he was unaware of
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  • That he was unaware of a segment of the body of christ
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  • A segment of the body of christ and had no idea who they were
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  • And had no idea who they were or what the connection
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  • Or what the connection was to him.
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  • Was to him. >> my lightning bolt moment
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  • >> my lightning bolt moment was a couple of days
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  • Was a couple of days after i attended
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  • After i attended that conference.
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  • That conference. and i was spending some time
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  • And i was spending some time praying with the lord
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  • Praying with the lord and the holy spirit
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  • And the holy spirit gave it to me in this analogy.
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  • Gave it to me in this analogy. he said -- at the time
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  • He said -- at the time i was single,
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  • I was single, and the holy spirit said,
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  • And the holy spirit said, "petra, say you were
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  • "petra, say you were to marry somebody that was
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  • To marry somebody that was ethnically and culturally
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  • Ethnically and culturally different than you,
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  • Different than you, and say that person said,
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  • And say that person said, 'petra, we just love
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  • 'petra, we just love your personality,
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  • Your personality, we love your heart,
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  • We love your heart, we love who you are,
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  • We love who you are, but your black culture
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  • But your black culture and your black people,
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  • And your black people, can you just leave that
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  • Can you just leave that out of our relationship?'"
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  • Out of our relationship?'" well, jonathan,
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  • Well, jonathan, i would tell that person,
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  • I would tell that person, "hit the road, jack.
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  • "hit the road, jack. and don't you come
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  • And don't you come back no more."
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  • Back no more." and then the holy spirit
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  • And then the holy spirit said this, "the church has said,
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  • Said this, "the church has said, 'lord, we want your miracles.
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  • 'lord, we want your miracles. we want your power.
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  • We want your power. we want the cross.
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  • We want the cross. we want your grace.
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  • We want your grace. but the jewish stuff,
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  • But the jewish stuff, and your jewish people,
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  • And your jewish people, and israel and all that,
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  • And israel and all that, let's keep that
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  • Let's keep that out of our relationship.'"
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  • Out of our relationship.'" well, when we do that,
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  • Well, when we do that, we're only getting
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  • We're only getting a part of who god is.
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  • A part of who god is. we're only understanding
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  • We're only understanding a part of who he is
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  • A part of who he is as a promise keeper,
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  • As a promise keeper, as a way maker.
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  • As a way maker. and so, for me, it was that
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  • And so, for me, it was that lightning bolt moment
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  • Lightning bolt moment of i cannot educate,
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  • Of i cannot educate, be a pastor,
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  • Be a pastor, be a leader,
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  • Be a leader, people on this faith
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  • People on this faith and remove from it
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  • And remove from it the jewishness of jesus
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  • The jewishness of jesus and the heart we're supposed
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  • And the heart we're supposed to have for his jewish people.
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  • To have for his jewish people. >> wow.
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  • >> wow. well said, petra.
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  • Well said, petra. well said.
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  • Well said. well, what would you
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  • Well, what would you say to people that
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  • Say to people that just simply believe
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  • Just simply believe that god's finished with
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  • That god's finished with the jewish people that,
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  • The jewish people that, yes, they did provide
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  • Yes, they did provide these things for us,
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  • These things for us, but they'd rejected
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  • But they'd rejected their messiah
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  • Their messiah and that's it for them?
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  • And that's it for them? >> well, what i would say
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  • >> well, what i would say to those people is that
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  • To those people is that the lord is coming back again.
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  • The lord is coming back again. and he's not coming back
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  • And he's not coming back to new york,
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  • To new york, as beautiful as it is.
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  • As beautiful as it is. he's not coming back to greece,
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  • He's not coming back to greece, nor is he coming back
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  • Nor is he coming back to hollywood,
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  • To hollywood, but he's coming
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  • But he's coming back to jerusalem.
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  • Back to jerusalem. and if we remove the importance
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  • And if we remove the importance of the whole story,
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  • Of the whole story, the old testament and new,
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  • The old testament and new, the prophecies of what
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  • The prophecies of what god has done,
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  • God has done, and what he's going to do,
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  • And what he's going to do, then we as believers
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  • Then we as believers will not be ready
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  • Will not be ready and we will not recognize
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  • And we will not recognize when the messiah returns.
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  • When the messiah returns. >> petra, i am so grateful
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  • >> petra, i am so grateful to have you with us today.
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  • To have you with us today. i can't wait to continue.
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  • >> welcome back to the program.
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  • >> welcome back to the program. before i continue with petra,
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  • Before i continue with petra, i just wanna express
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  • I just wanna express our gratitude to you
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  • With jewish communities around the world.
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  • Around the world. we are so grateful.
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  • We are so grateful. thank you.
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  • Thank you. now, petra, let's talk
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  • Now, petra, let's talk about the organization
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  • About the organization that we brought up last session
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  • That we brought up last session that your father
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  • That your father and coach mccartney
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  • And coach mccartney started together
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  • Started together and you now lead,
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  • And you now lead, road to jerusalem.
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  • Road to jerusalem. it's a challenging ministry.
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  • It's a challenging ministry. what's some of the obstacles
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  • What's some of the obstacles that you face promoting
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  • That you face promoting messianic judaism,
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  • Messianic judaism, unity within the church,
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  • Unity within the church, and how you overcome them?
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  • And how you overcome them? >> well, one of
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  • >> well, one of the biggest obstacles
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  • The biggest obstacles that we find especially
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  • That we find especially when i'm talking to
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  • When i'm talking to pastors and leaders
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  • Pastors and leaders is they're so afraid to
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  • Is they're so afraid to do anything pertaining
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  • Do anything pertaining to jewish roots because
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  • To jewish roots because they're afraid of culturally
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  • They're afraid of culturally appropriating things
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  • Appropriating things that are jewish.
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  • That are jewish. and one of the things
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  • And one of the things that i really studied
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  • That i really studied and began to teach was
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  • And began to teach was romans 11 and the olive tree.
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  • Romans 11 and the olive tree. and we all know when we read
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  • And we all know when we read romans 11, that if
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  • Romans 11, that if you're not jewish
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  • You're not jewish and you're gentile,
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  • And you're gentile, you're grafted in.
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  • You're grafted in. but i don't think
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  • But i don't think what people realize
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  • What people realize is that grafting
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  • Is that grafting in actually a real thing.
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  • In actually a real thing. the university of syracuse
  • 00:11:21.138 --> 00:11:22.272
  • The university of syracuse did this project.
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  • Did this project. they call it,
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  • They call it, "the tree of 40 fruits,"
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  • "the tree of 40 fruits," where they grafted in
  • 00:11:25.743 --> 00:11:27.878
  • Where they grafted in 40 different fruits
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  • 40 different fruits into an olive tree.
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  • Into an olive tree. and what happened was this,
  • 00:11:31.281 --> 00:11:32.349
  • And what happened was this, and it was phenomenal,
  • 00:11:32.416 --> 00:11:33.751
  • And it was phenomenal, that each of those branches
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  • That each of those branches continued to produce
  • 00:11:35.552 --> 00:11:36.954
  • Continued to produce the fruit of the original tree
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  • The fruit of the original tree that they were native to,
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  • That they were native to, but they're all connected
  • 00:11:40.324 --> 00:11:41.592
  • But they're all connected to this new source.
  • 00:11:41.658 --> 00:11:43.560
  • To this new source. and when i realized that
  • 00:11:43.627 --> 00:11:45.195
  • And when i realized that and that was introduced to me --
  • 00:11:45.262 --> 00:11:46.597
  • And that was introduced to me -- >> i love that picture.
  • 00:11:46.663 --> 00:11:47.364
  • >> i love that picture. >> yeah, it was introduced to me
  • 00:11:47.431 --> 00:11:48.665
  • >> yeah, it was introduced to me by rabbi jacob rosenberg.
  • 00:11:48.732 --> 00:11:50.934
  • By rabbi jacob rosenberg. i learned this, i learned that
  • 00:11:51.001 --> 00:11:52.770
  • I learned this, i learned that when we're grafted in,
  • 00:11:52.836 --> 00:11:54.071
  • When we're grafted in, it's not cultural appropriation.
  • 00:11:54.138 --> 00:11:56.607
  • It's not cultural appropriation. it's covenantal participation.
  • 00:11:56.673 --> 00:11:58.976
  • It's covenantal participation. that's what he taught me.
  • 00:11:59.042 --> 00:12:00.077
  • That's what he taught me. >> that's really profound.
  • 00:12:00.144 --> 00:12:01.111
  • >> that's really profound. >> so, covenantal participation,
  • 00:12:01.178 --> 00:12:02.913
  • >> so, covenantal participation, in order to participate
  • 00:12:02.980 --> 00:12:04.081
  • In order to participate in covenant,
  • 00:12:04.148 --> 00:12:04.648
  • In covenant, you have to first be
  • 00:12:04.715 --> 00:12:05.382
  • You have to first be in covenant relationship.
  • 00:12:05.449 --> 00:12:07.084
  • In covenant relationship. so, if i'm in covenant
  • 00:12:07.151 --> 00:12:08.218
  • So, if i'm in covenant relationship with you
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  • Relationship with you as my jewish brother,
  • 00:12:08.919 --> 00:12:10.320
  • As my jewish brother, then that means how
  • 00:12:10.387 --> 00:12:11.655
  • Then that means how i'm participated in the --
  • 00:12:11.722 --> 00:12:13.657
  • I'm participated in the -- participating in the moedim,
  • 00:12:13.724 --> 00:12:15.492
  • Participating in the moedim, the appointed times,
  • 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:16.593
  • The appointed times, it's with you,
  • 00:12:16.660 --> 00:12:17.828
  • It's with you, it's honoring you.
  • 00:12:17.895 --> 00:12:19.263
  • It's honoring you. when i first started to learn
  • 00:12:19.329 --> 00:12:21.498
  • When i first started to learn about god's appointments,
  • 00:12:21.565 --> 00:12:23.033
  • About god's appointments, his calendar, i said,
  • 00:12:23.100 --> 00:12:24.935
  • His calendar, i said, "how has this been missing
  • 00:12:25.002 --> 00:12:25.836
  • "how has this been missing from my faith experience?"
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  • From my faith experience?" every single one of
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  • Every single one of the moedim helps
  • 00:12:29.640 --> 00:12:31.008
  • The moedim helps to align believers with
  • 00:12:31.074 --> 00:12:32.810
  • To align believers with the will of heaven on earth.
  • 00:12:32.876 --> 00:12:34.378
  • The will of heaven on earth. we say in the lord's prayer,
  • 00:12:34.444 --> 00:12:35.779
  • We say in the lord's prayer, "your kingdom come,
  • 00:12:35.846 --> 00:12:36.814
  • "your kingdom come, your will be done
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  • Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven."
  • 00:12:37.481 --> 00:12:38.715
  • On earth as it is in heaven." >> just to define,
  • 00:12:38.782 --> 00:12:39.316
  • >> just to define, moedim are the holidays,
  • 00:12:39.383 --> 00:12:41.285
  • Moedim are the holidays, the appointed times,
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  • The appointed times, the feasts, which many think
  • 00:12:42.319 --> 00:12:44.121
  • The feasts, which many think are the feasts
  • 00:12:44.188 --> 00:12:45.155
  • Are the feasts of the jewish people.
  • 00:12:45.222 --> 00:12:46.123
  • Of the jewish people. >> yeah.
  • 00:12:46.190 --> 00:12:46.390
  • >> yeah. >> rosh hashanah,
  • 00:12:46.456 --> 00:12:47.057
  • >> rosh hashanah, yom kippur, passover.
  • 00:12:47.124 --> 00:12:49.026
  • Yom kippur, passover. but these are celebrations
  • 00:12:49.092 --> 00:12:51.662
  • But these are celebrations that jesus observed.
  • 00:12:51.728 --> 00:12:53.197
  • That jesus observed. >> yes, they did.
  • 00:12:53.263 --> 00:12:53.931
  • >> yes, they did. >> in the new testament,
  • 00:12:53.997 --> 00:12:54.798
  • >> in the new testament, all in the new testament
  • 00:12:54.865 --> 00:12:56.233
  • All in the new testament as well as in the old testament.
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  • As well as in the old testament. and they connect to
  • 00:12:58.368 --> 00:13:01.271
  • And they connect to his divinity,
  • 00:13:01.338 --> 00:13:02.306
  • His divinity, to his messiahship,
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  • To his messiahship, to his humanity,
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  • To his humanity, to the lamb of god
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  • To the lamb of god who takes away
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  • Who takes away the sins of the world.
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  • The sins of the world. there are all these types
  • 00:13:09.746 --> 00:13:10.781
  • There are all these types and pictures in the feasts
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  • And pictures in the feasts that point to jesus.
  • 00:13:12.983 --> 00:13:14.117
  • That point to jesus. so, why do you think
  • 00:13:14.184 --> 00:13:15.686
  • So, why do you think this shouldn't be for you,
  • 00:13:15.752 --> 00:13:17.254
  • This shouldn't be for you, watching?
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  • Watching? right?
  • 00:13:17.921 --> 00:13:18.155
  • Right? it's for all of us.
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  • It's for all of us. >> i don't miss
  • 00:13:19.323 --> 00:13:19.756
  • >> i don't miss my hair appointments.
  • 00:13:19.823 --> 00:13:20.891
  • My hair appointments. i'm sure you don't miss
  • 00:13:20.958 --> 00:13:21.658
  • I'm sure you don't miss your dentist appointments.
  • 00:13:21.725 --> 00:13:22.693
  • Your dentist appointments. >> well, i don't miss
  • 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:23.293
  • >> well, i don't miss my hair appointment.
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  • [laughter]
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  • I could tell you that.
  • 00:13:24.728 --> 00:13:25.829
  • I could tell you that. >> but god -- these feasts,
  • 00:13:25.896 --> 00:13:27.831
  • >> but god -- these feasts, these appointed times,
  • 00:13:27.898 --> 00:13:28.799
  • These appointed times, are god's appointments with us.
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  • Are god's appointments with us. and when we miss out on them
  • 00:13:30.868 --> 00:13:32.569
  • And when we miss out on them we miss out on a richness
  • 00:13:32.636 --> 00:13:34.404
  • We miss out on a richness and a discernment
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  • And a discernment on what is valuable to him
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  • On what is valuable to him and what's valuable
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  • And what's valuable in the kingdom.
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  • In the kingdom. and so, this ministry,
  • 00:13:40.344 --> 00:13:42.112
  • And so, this ministry, the road to jerusalem,
  • 00:13:42.179 --> 00:13:42.913
  • The road to jerusalem, is really about helping
  • 00:13:42.980 --> 00:13:44.481
  • Is really about helping people understand that
  • 00:13:44.548 --> 00:13:46.216
  • People understand that it's not about appropriation.
  • 00:13:46.283 --> 00:13:47.384
  • It's not about appropriation. you've gotta be
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  • You've gotta be in relationship with
  • 00:13:48.452 --> 00:13:49.586
  • In relationship with our messianic jewish
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  • Our messianic jewish brothers and sisters.
  • 00:13:50.554 --> 00:13:51.588
  • Brothers and sisters. but we are through covenant,
  • 00:13:51.655 --> 00:13:52.923
  • But we are through covenant, through being sons and daughter,
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  • Through being sons and daughter, equal heirs.
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  • Equal heirs. we're able to participate
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  • We're able to participate in god's appointment.
  • 00:13:57.961 --> 00:13:59.062
  • In god's appointment. >> you know it existed
  • 00:13:59.129 --> 00:13:59.897
  • >> you know it existed in the old testament too, right?
  • 00:13:59.963 --> 00:14:01.598
  • In the old testament too, right? with the sojourners
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  • With the sojourners that became part of
  • 00:14:03.066 --> 00:14:03.634
  • That became part of the community of israel.
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  • The community of israel. >> yeah.
  • 00:14:04.768 --> 00:14:05.602
  • >> yeah. >> they weren't originally
  • 00:14:05.669 --> 00:14:06.403
  • >> they weren't originally part of the people of israel,
  • 00:14:06.470 --> 00:14:07.638
  • Part of the people of israel, but they were incorporated
  • 00:14:07.704 --> 00:14:08.605
  • But they were incorporated in as sojourners.
  • 00:14:08.672 --> 00:14:10.307
  • In as sojourners. and they followed the moedim.
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  • And they followed the moedim. they followed the holidays.
  • 00:14:11.608 --> 00:14:12.943
  • They followed the holidays. >> you know what my favorite
  • 00:14:13.010 --> 00:14:14.444
  • >> you know what my favorite thing about it is?
  • 00:14:14.511 --> 00:14:15.779
  • Thing about it is? one of the biggest known
  • 00:14:15.846 --> 00:14:17.047
  • One of the biggest known revivals in the church
  • 00:14:17.114 --> 00:14:18.482
  • Revivals in the church is the azusa street revival.
  • 00:14:18.548 --> 00:14:19.950
  • Is the azusa street revival. >> right.
  • 00:14:20.017 --> 00:14:20.484
  • >> right. >> and the azusa street revival,
  • 00:14:20.550 --> 00:14:22.152
  • >> and the azusa street revival, many people don't know this,
  • 00:14:22.219 --> 00:14:23.620
  • Many people don't know this, started on april 9, 1904.
  • 00:14:23.687 --> 00:14:27.157
  • Started on april 9, 1904. it was a friday night,
  • 00:14:27.224 --> 00:14:28.458
  • It was a friday night, but that year that was
  • 00:14:28.525 --> 00:14:29.526
  • But that year that was the first night of passover,
  • 00:14:29.593 --> 00:14:31.495
  • The first night of passover, the first night of pesach.
  • 00:14:31.561 --> 00:14:32.729
  • The first night of pesach. >> oh, really?
  • 00:14:32.796 --> 00:14:33.130
  • >> oh, really? >> you cannot tell me
  • 00:14:33.196 --> 00:14:34.398
  • >> you cannot tell me that there's a coincidence
  • 00:14:34.464 --> 00:14:36.233
  • That there's a coincidence in the greatest revival
  • 00:14:36.300 --> 00:14:38.502
  • In the greatest revival that has taken place
  • 00:14:38.568 --> 00:14:39.403
  • That has taken place that i believe
  • 00:14:39.469 --> 00:14:40.437
  • That i believe on american soil was
  • 00:14:40.504 --> 00:14:42.105
  • On american soil was in alignment with
  • 00:14:42.172 --> 00:14:43.640
  • In alignment with god's appointment.
  • 00:14:43.707 --> 00:14:44.775
  • God's appointment. >> yeah.
  • 00:14:44.841 --> 00:14:45.275
  • >> yeah. >> it was in alignment
  • 00:14:45.342 --> 00:14:46.143
  • >> it was in alignment with passover.
  • 00:14:46.209 --> 00:14:46.643
  • With passover. and correct me if i'm wrong,
  • 00:14:46.710 --> 00:14:48.779
  • And correct me if i'm wrong, but when you have
  • 00:14:48.845 --> 00:14:49.713
  • But when you have an appointed time
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  • An appointed time on another appointed time
  • 00:14:51.048 --> 00:14:52.349
  • On another appointed time it's called
  • 00:14:52.416 --> 00:14:52.816
  • It's called a high shabbat, right?
  • 00:14:52.883 --> 00:14:54.117
  • A high shabbat, right? >> that's amazing, yeah.
  • 00:14:54.184 --> 00:14:54.851
  • >> that's amazing, yeah. >> it's a special one,
  • 00:14:54.918 --> 00:14:56.320
  • >> it's a special one, so i feel like the lord
  • 00:14:56.386 --> 00:14:57.888
  • So i feel like the lord has been saying --
  • 00:14:57.955 --> 00:14:59.323
  • Has been saying -- i feel like heaven has been
  • 00:14:59.389 --> 00:15:00.324
  • I feel like heaven has been crying out for this unity
  • 00:15:00.390 --> 00:15:02.225
  • Crying out for this unity between messianic brothers
  • 00:15:02.292 --> 00:15:03.927
  • Between messianic brothers and sisters and the church.
  • 00:15:03.994 --> 00:15:05.429
  • And sisters and the church. >> what's the fear,
  • 00:15:05.495 --> 00:15:06.763
  • >> what's the fear, do you think as you
  • 00:15:06.830 --> 00:15:08.098
  • Do you think as you encounter pastors
  • 00:15:08.165 --> 00:15:09.833
  • Encounter pastors and try to help them understand
  • 00:15:09.900 --> 00:15:12.069
  • And try to help them understand the one new humanity
  • 00:15:12.135 --> 00:15:15.439
  • The one new humanity of prayer of john 17
  • 00:15:15.505 --> 00:15:18.742
  • Of prayer of john 17 or jesus as a jew,
  • 00:15:18.809 --> 00:15:21.411
  • Or jesus as a jew, was and is a jew,
  • 00:15:21.478 --> 00:15:22.980
  • Was and is a jew, that hands off
  • 00:15:23.046 --> 00:15:25.882
  • That hands off that appropriation?
  • 00:15:25.949 --> 00:15:26.683
  • That appropriation? what do you think it is
  • 00:15:26.750 --> 00:15:27.551
  • What do you think it is about jewish things
  • 00:15:27.617 --> 00:15:29.453
  • About jewish things that result in sort of
  • 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:30.687
  • That result in sort of a negative response?
  • 00:15:30.754 --> 00:15:32.089
  • A negative response? >> yeah, i think
  • 00:15:32.155 --> 00:15:33.090
  • >> yeah, i think one of the biggest fears
  • 00:15:33.156 --> 00:15:34.524
  • One of the biggest fears is that in order to engage,
  • 00:15:34.591 --> 00:15:36.226
  • Is that in order to engage, you have to become.
  • 00:15:36.293 --> 00:15:38.228
  • You have to become. and that's a direct lie
  • 00:15:38.295 --> 00:15:39.363
  • And that's a direct lie from the enemy.
  • 00:15:39.429 --> 00:15:40.163
  • From the enemy. we don't have to become,
  • 00:15:40.230 --> 00:15:41.064
  • We don't have to become, we embrace.
  • 00:15:41.131 --> 00:15:42.032
  • We embrace. it goes back to that
  • 00:15:42.099 --> 00:15:42.699
  • It goes back to that olive tree analogy.
  • 00:15:42.766 --> 00:15:44.568
  • Olive tree analogy. if i'm a pear tree branch
  • 00:15:44.634 --> 00:15:46.937
  • If i'm a pear tree branch that's been grafted
  • 00:15:47.004 --> 00:15:47.771
  • That's been grafted into this olive tree,
  • 00:15:47.838 --> 00:15:49.606
  • Into this olive tree, i'm still a pear,
  • 00:15:49.673 --> 00:15:50.874
  • I'm still a pear, but i've embraced
  • 00:15:50.941 --> 00:15:52.175
  • But i've embraced my root system.
  • 00:15:52.242 --> 00:15:53.577
  • My root system. i'm not fighting it,
  • 00:15:53.643 --> 00:15:54.778
  • I'm not fighting it, i'm embracing it.
  • 00:15:54.845 --> 00:15:56.213
  • I'm embracing it. and i may have --
  • 00:15:56.279 --> 00:15:56.813
  • And i may have -- i may be a pear with
  • 00:15:56.880 --> 00:15:57.647
  • I may be a pear with a little bit of olive
  • 00:15:57.714 --> 00:15:58.515
  • A little bit of olive flavor to me.
  • 00:15:58.582 --> 00:15:59.116
  • [laughter]
  • 00:15:59.383 --> 00:15:59.683
  • Right?
  • 00:15:59.950 --> 00:16:00.417
  • Right? but what it is is that
  • 00:16:00.484 --> 00:16:02.419
  • But what it is is that we don't have to
  • 00:16:02.486 --> 00:16:03.120
  • We don't have to change who we are.
  • 00:16:03.186 --> 00:16:04.354
  • Change who we are. the church doesn't have
  • 00:16:04.421 --> 00:16:05.155
  • The church doesn't have to change its mission
  • 00:16:05.222 --> 00:16:06.923
  • To change its mission and its outreach.
  • 00:16:06.990 --> 00:16:07.958
  • And its outreach. really, this message
  • 00:16:08.025 --> 00:16:08.892
  • Really, this message of one new man,
  • 00:16:08.959 --> 00:16:09.993
  • Of one new man, what it does, jonathan,
  • 00:16:10.060 --> 00:16:11.161
  • What it does, jonathan, is it enhances a ministry.
  • 00:16:11.228 --> 00:16:13.296
  • Is it enhances a ministry. it enhances a church.
  • 00:16:13.363 --> 00:16:14.831
  • It enhances a church. it gives people
  • 00:16:14.898 --> 00:16:16.033
  • It gives people hands-on experiences
  • 00:16:16.099 --> 00:16:18.502
  • Hands-on experiences as to what they can do
  • 00:16:18.568 --> 00:16:20.037
  • As to what they can do and how they can experience
  • 00:16:20.103 --> 00:16:21.738
  • And how they can experience a deeper understanding
  • 00:16:21.805 --> 00:16:22.773
  • A deeper understanding of the lord.
  • 00:16:22.839 --> 00:16:23.106
  • Of the lord. >> well, let me
  • 00:16:23.173 --> 00:16:23.507
  • >> well, let me repeat something.
  • 00:16:23.573 --> 00:16:24.241
  • Repeat something. i'll ask you
  • 00:16:24.307 --> 00:16:24.875
  • I'll ask you in a different way
  • 00:16:24.941 --> 00:16:25.375
  • In a different way because it's so important.
  • 00:16:25.442 --> 00:16:27.177
  • Because it's so important. why do you think understanding
  • 00:16:27.244 --> 00:16:29.913
  • Why do you think understanding the jewish culture of jesus
  • 00:16:29.980 --> 00:16:31.882
  • The jewish culture of jesus is key to deepening
  • 00:16:31.948 --> 00:16:34.051
  • Is key to deepening a believer's faith expression.
  • 00:16:34.117 --> 00:16:35.552
  • A believer's faith expression. i know you've already
  • 00:16:35.619 --> 00:16:36.119
  • I know you've already talked about it,
  • 00:16:36.186 --> 00:16:36.720
  • Talked about it, but i just -- i wanna
  • 00:16:36.787 --> 00:16:37.554
  • But i just -- i wanna keep hammering this home,
  • 00:16:37.621 --> 00:16:38.955
  • Keep hammering this home, because this is important
  • 00:16:39.022 --> 00:16:39.823
  • Because this is important for you that are watching.
  • 00:16:39.890 --> 00:16:41.358
  • For you that are watching. >> it's so key especially
  • 00:16:41.425 --> 00:16:43.093
  • >> it's so key especially in these times.
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  • In these times. i mentioned it before
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  • I mentioned it before about contextualizing jesus
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  • About contextualizing jesus to look like us or to be
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  • To look like us or to be made in our image.
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  • Made in our image. i think what happens
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  • I think what happens is believers will run the risk
  • 00:16:52.903 --> 00:16:57.240
  • Is believers will run the risk of eisegeting scripture,
  • 00:16:57.307 --> 00:16:59.242
  • Of eisegeting scripture, not properly exegeting it.
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  • Not properly exegeting it. >> could you explain that?
  • 00:17:01.044 --> 00:17:01.645
  • >> could you explain that? i don't think most --
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  • I don't think most -- >> eisegesis is when
  • 00:17:02.212 --> 00:17:03.713
  • >> eisegesis is when we interpret scripture
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  • We interpret scripture with our own understanding
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  • With our own understanding or our own assumptions.
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  • Or our own assumptions. exegesis is when
  • 00:17:08.518 --> 00:17:09.786
  • Exegesis is when we interpret scripture
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  • We interpret scripture for the context
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  • For the context and the intention,
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  • And the intention, god's intention behind it.
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  • God's intention behind it. >> you're not proving
  • 00:17:16.460 --> 00:17:17.127
  • >> you're not proving a scripture for your point.
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  • A scripture for your point. >> there it is.
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  • >> there it is. >> but getting out of it
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  • >> but getting out of it what's it's trying --
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  • What's it's trying -- what the scripture is
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  • What the scripture is saying within its context.
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  • Saying within its context. >> 100% of that.
  • 00:17:22.532 --> 00:17:23.400
  • >> 100% of that. >> this is a revelation, petra.
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  • >> this is a revelation, petra. the light came on with you.
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  • The light came on with you. and my hope is that
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  • And my hope is that you will start to dig into this
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  • You will start to dig into this and that light will go on.
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  • And that light will go on. and it will really change
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  • And it will really change your relationship with the lord.
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  • >> there are four children
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  • >> there are four children that we've seen this morning,
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  • That we've seen this morning, they were orphans.
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  • They were orphans. their mother was dead,
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  • Their mother was dead, and their father abandoned them.
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  • And their father abandoned them. we didn't make 'em
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  • We didn't make 'em go through the line,
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  • Go through the line, we just banded them
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  • We just banded them and took 'em straight in
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  • And took 'em straight in and took 'em back to pediatrics
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  • And took 'em back to pediatrics to get 'em fixed up
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  • To get 'em fixed up and get a snack
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  • And get a snack and just start
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  • And just start taking care of 'em.
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  • Taking care of 'em. it makes you feel --
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  • It makes you feel -- when you see
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  • When you see something like that,
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  • Something like that, it makes you feel just --
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  • It makes you feel just -- it just grabs your heart
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  • It just grabs your heart because their father is not
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  • Because their father is not man enough to take care of 'em.
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  • Their mother died,
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  • And this little girl
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  • Is taking care of her kid --
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  • Her kid brother and sisters,
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  • And it just --
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  • We are so blessed in america.
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  • We are so, so blessed,
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  • And these people have so much
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  • Need, hurt, disease.
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  • It's just amazing what we have.
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  • And they don't have any of it.
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  • But the way it makes you feel,
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  • It makes you feel angry.
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  • It breaks your heart.
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  • It's just --
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  • It's something that should not
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  • Be happening to anybody.
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  • >> a quick commentary
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  • >> a quick commentary of when you read romans 11,
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  • Of when you read romans 11, what you got out of romans 11.
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  • What you got out of romans 11. >> when i read romans 11,
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  • >> when i read romans 11, what i got out of this
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  • What i got out of this was two things,
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  • Was two things, honor and respect.
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  • Honor and respect. when you read it you hear,
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  • When you read it you hear, you know, the apostle paul
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  • You know, the apostle paul saying, "first and foremost,
  • 00:19:51.681 --> 00:19:53.016
  • Saying, "first and foremost, some one the natural
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  • Some one the natural branches were removed."
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  • Branches were removed." and for me, that sparked
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  • And for me, that sparked a love for praying for
  • 00:20:00.390 --> 00:20:01.524
  • A love for praying for all israel to be saved,
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  • All israel to be saved, to see jewish brothers
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  • To see jewish brothers and sisters who don't know
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  • And sisters who don't know messiah come into him.
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  • Messiah come into him. but it also said you wanna
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  • But it also said you wanna honor the natural branches
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  • Honor the natural branches that are still
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  • That are still connected on there.
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  • Connected on there. i love when
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  • I love when the apostle paul says,
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  • The apostle paul says, "listen, if you're
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  • "listen, if you're a wild branch
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  • A wild branch and you've been grafted in,
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  • And you've been grafted in, don't get too arrogant
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  • Don't get too arrogant because if the natural
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  • Because if the natural branches could be cut off,
  • 00:20:19.709 --> 00:20:21.344
  • Branches could be cut off, then guess what?
  • 00:20:21.411 --> 00:20:22.145
  • Then guess what? you can be cut off too."
  • 00:20:22.212 --> 00:20:23.446
  • You can be cut off too." so, i feel like
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  • So, i feel like what romans 11 does
  • 00:20:24.281 --> 00:20:25.882
  • What romans 11 does is it sets a table of
  • 00:20:25.949 --> 00:20:27.450
  • Is it sets a table of honor and respect.
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  • Honor and respect. god is a god who honors,
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  • God is a god who honors, respects, and keeps
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  • Respects, and keeps his promises.
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  • His promises. >> you know what else i see?
  • 00:20:32.589 --> 00:20:33.790
  • >> you know what else i see? the warning there is that god is
  • 00:20:33.857 --> 00:20:37.327
  • The warning there is that god is faithful to the jewish people.
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  • Faithful to the jewish people. and if you don't trust him
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  • And if you don't trust him for your --
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  • For your -- for their faithfulness,
  • 00:20:42.032 --> 00:20:43.099
  • For their faithfulness, you can't trust him
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  • You can't trust him for your own faith.
  • 00:20:43.800 --> 00:20:44.634
  • For your own faith. in other words,
  • 00:20:44.701 --> 00:20:45.669
  • In other words, if god reached the point
  • 00:20:45.735 --> 00:20:46.936
  • If god reached the point where he says, "i'm done
  • 00:20:47.003 --> 00:20:47.737
  • Where he says, "i'm done with the jewish people.
  • 00:20:47.804 --> 00:20:48.438
  • With the jewish people. they rejected their messiah.
  • 00:20:48.505 --> 00:20:49.539
  • They rejected their messiah. they rejected the prophets.
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  • They rejected the prophets. done."
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  • Done." >> and he'll be done with me.
  • 00:20:52.142 --> 00:20:53.243
  • >> and he'll be done with me. >> then what point
  • 00:20:53.310 --> 00:20:53.677
  • >> then what point are we finished?
  • 00:20:53.743 --> 00:20:54.544
  • Are we finished? >> yeah.
  • 00:20:54.611 --> 00:20:55.011
  • >> yeah. >> right?
  • 00:20:55.078 --> 00:20:55.312
  • >> right? what point do we cross
  • 00:20:55.378 --> 00:20:56.146
  • What point do we cross that line and god says,
  • 00:20:56.212 --> 00:20:57.013
  • That line and god says, "enough, you're out."
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  • "enough, you're out." >> yeah.
  • 00:20:58.114 --> 00:20:58.915
  • >> yeah. >> but it's god's faithfulness
  • 00:20:58.982 --> 00:20:59.983
  • >> but it's god's faithfulness to the jewish people
  • 00:21:00.050 --> 00:21:01.217
  • To the jewish people that gives us confidence
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  • That gives us confidence that he will keep forgiving us.
  • 00:21:03.486 --> 00:21:06.122
  • That he will keep forgiving us. and i love that, i love that.
  • 00:21:06.189 --> 00:21:07.991
  • And i love that, i love that. he remains faithful
  • 00:21:08.058 --> 00:21:08.992
  • He remains faithful to the jewish people.
  • 00:21:09.059 --> 00:21:10.026
  • To the jewish people. petra, you've written a book,
  • 00:21:10.093 --> 00:21:11.961
  • Petra, you've written a book, and i just absolutely
  • 00:21:12.028 --> 00:21:12.595
  • And i just absolutely love the title.
  • 00:21:12.662 --> 00:21:13.330
  • Love the title. it talks about
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  • It talks about some of the things
  • 00:21:13.963 --> 00:21:14.497
  • Some of the things we've talked about today,
  • 00:21:14.564 --> 00:21:16.166
  • We've talked about today, but it goes deeper.
  • 00:21:16.232 --> 00:21:17.500
  • But it goes deeper. love this title.
  • 00:21:17.567 --> 00:21:18.535
  • Love this title. "intimacy,
  • 00:21:18.601 --> 00:21:19.269
  • "intimacy, unlearning religion,
  • 00:21:19.336 --> 00:21:21.171
  • Unlearning religion, embracing god."
  • 00:21:21.237 --> 00:21:22.172
  • Embracing god." >> yeah.
  • 00:21:22.238 --> 00:21:22.672
  • >> yeah. >> it's a love story.
  • 00:21:22.739 --> 00:21:23.506
  • >> it's a love story. it's about loving god deeply.
  • 00:21:23.573 --> 00:21:25.442
  • It's about loving god deeply. talk about this book because
  • 00:21:25.508 --> 00:21:26.776
  • Talk about this book because i wanna get it into your hands.
  • 00:21:26.843 --> 00:21:28.411
  • I wanna get it into your hands. this book will really change
  • 00:21:28.478 --> 00:21:29.979
  • This book will really change your relationship with the lord.
  • 00:21:30.046 --> 00:21:31.614
  • Your relationship with the lord. so, i'm really pushing it hard.
  • 00:21:31.681 --> 00:21:33.083
  • So, i'm really pushing it hard. i believe everyone
  • 00:21:33.149 --> 00:21:34.150
  • I believe everyone watching needs this book.
  • 00:21:34.217 --> 00:21:35.352
  • Watching needs this book. you know who else
  • 00:21:35.418 --> 00:21:35.952
  • You know who else needs the book?
  • 00:21:36.019 --> 00:21:37.287
  • Needs the book? your child,
  • 00:21:37.354 --> 00:21:38.488
  • Your child, your grandchild.
  • 00:21:38.555 --> 00:21:39.756
  • Your grandchild. they need to read this.
  • 00:21:39.823 --> 00:21:42.092
  • They need to read this. tell -- talk about the book.
  • 00:21:42.158 --> 00:21:43.460
  • Tell -- talk about the book. >> so, this book
  • 00:21:43.526 --> 00:21:44.894
  • >> so, this book was written to --
  • 00:21:44.961 --> 00:21:46.496
  • Was written to -- >> i'll give it to you.
  • 00:21:46.563 --> 00:21:47.530
  • >> i'll give it to you. >> it was written to really
  • 00:21:47.597 --> 00:21:49.165
  • >> it was written to really be a love letter
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  • Be a love letter to the body of believers
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  • To the body of believers and even to those who are
  • 00:21:52.569 --> 00:21:53.937
  • And even to those who are wrestling with --
  • 00:21:54.003 --> 00:21:55.071
  • Wrestling with -- may have fallen away
  • 00:21:55.138 --> 00:21:56.072
  • May have fallen away from god or don't wanna have
  • 00:21:56.139 --> 00:21:57.240
  • From god or don't wanna have anything to do with god.
  • 00:21:57.307 --> 00:21:59.209
  • Anything to do with god. it's really a love letter
  • 00:21:59.275 --> 00:22:00.877
  • It's really a love letter of how the lord desires to be
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  • Of how the lord desires to be in relationship with us
  • 00:22:04.414 --> 00:22:05.815
  • In relationship with us in the same way
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  • In the same way we desire to be in
  • 00:22:06.483 --> 00:22:07.450
  • We desire to be in relationship with others.
  • 00:22:07.517 --> 00:22:09.152
  • Relationship with others. and i like to say this.
  • 00:22:09.219 --> 00:22:10.987
  • And i like to say this. i like to say that this word,
  • 00:22:11.054 --> 00:22:14.824
  • I like to say that this word, "intimacy,"
  • 00:22:14.891 --> 00:22:15.558
  • "intimacy," is the father saying,
  • 00:22:15.625 --> 00:22:16.693
  • Is the father saying, "into me see.
  • 00:22:16.760 --> 00:22:18.395
  • "into me see. look into my heart
  • 00:22:18.461 --> 00:22:20.363
  • Look into my heart and see not only how
  • 00:22:20.430 --> 00:22:21.865
  • And see not only how i'm crazy in love with you
  • 00:22:21.931 --> 00:22:23.533
  • I'm crazy in love with you but look into my heart
  • 00:22:23.600 --> 00:22:24.701
  • But look into my heart and see what
  • 00:22:24.768 --> 00:22:25.702
  • And see what i'm doing around you.
  • 00:22:25.769 --> 00:22:27.203
  • I'm doing around you. there's so much darkness.
  • 00:22:27.270 --> 00:22:28.705
  • There's so much darkness. there's so much uncertainty
  • 00:22:28.772 --> 00:22:30.340
  • There's so much uncertainty about what's happening
  • 00:22:30.407 --> 00:22:31.307
  • About what's happening in the world right now.
  • 00:22:31.374 --> 00:22:32.909
  • In the world right now. but when we have
  • 00:22:32.976 --> 00:22:33.676
  • But when we have a healthy understanding
  • 00:22:33.743 --> 00:22:34.878
  • A healthy understanding of who god is in our life
  • 00:22:34.944 --> 00:22:36.746
  • Of who god is in our life and what it is
  • 00:22:36.813 --> 00:22:37.580
  • And what it is that he's calling us to do
  • 00:22:37.647 --> 00:22:39.282
  • That he's calling us to do then we're able to be
  • 00:22:39.349 --> 00:22:40.283
  • Then we're able to be really rooted and unmoved,
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  • Really rooted and unmoved, steadfast and immoveable,
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  • Steadfast and immoveable, always abounding
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  • Always abounding in the work of the lord.
  • 00:22:45.021 --> 00:22:46.022
  • In the work of the lord. and so, this is to help us
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  • And so, this is to help us kind of come out
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  • Kind of come out of a religious mindset.
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  • Of a religious mindset. it's for both jewish
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  • It's for both jewish and gentile believers
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  • And gentile believers and unbelievers.
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  • And unbelievers. it's about understanding
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  • It's about understanding god's heart as a father
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  • God's heart as a father for his kids.
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  • For his kids. >> petra, i am so grateful
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  • >> petra, i am so grateful to have you with us today.
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  • To have you with us today. i can't wait to continue.
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  • I can't wait to continue. god is doing incredible work
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  • God is doing incredible work in jewish communities in israel,
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  • In jewish communities in israel, in the united states,
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  • >> the apostle paul wrote,
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  • "he has made us both one,
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  • Jew and gentile,
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  • A new man in messiah."
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  • In her new book, "intimacy,
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  • Unlearning religion,
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  • Embracing god,"
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  • Petra scott reminds us
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  • That we cannot fully know
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  • Yeshua apart
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  • From his jewish roots.
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  • The unfolding story of israel,
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  • The promises to abraham,
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  • And god's plan of salvation
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  • Revealed in both
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  • The old and new testaments.
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  • Intimacy leads you into
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  • An encouraging encounter,
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  • And experience with god,
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  • The creator who made you
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  • And loves you with
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  • An unending love.
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  • >> petra, i think
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  • >> petra, i think there's a lot of people
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  • There's a lot of people watching that want that umph,
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  • Watching that want that umph, that they want what you have.
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  • That they want what you have. and i'm gonna ask you
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  • And i'm gonna ask you to release that prayer.
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  • To release that prayer. there are many of you that are
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  • There are many of you that are watching have prayer needs
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  • Watching have prayer needs you've written to us
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  • You've written to us and texted them to us,
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  • And texted them to us, and emailed them to us,
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  • And emailed them to us, we pray for
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  • We pray for your prayers by name.
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  • Your prayers by name. but we wanna take this
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  • But we wanna take this opportunity to pray for you
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  • Opportunity to pray for you to enter into this
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  • To enter into this new realm of understanding
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  • New realm of understanding who jesus is and who you are
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  • Who jesus is and who you are as a wild branch grafted
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  • As a wild branch grafted into the olive tree.
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  • Into the olive tree. i also wanna pray for
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  • I also wanna pray for those of you that have not yet
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  • Those of you that have not yet experienced the gift
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  • Experienced the gift of eternal life
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  • Of eternal life because you haven't yet
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  • Because you haven't yet entered into a relationship
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  • Entered into a relationship with yeshua, with jesus.
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  • With yeshua, with jesus. and so, petra, i'm gonna
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  • And so, petra, i'm gonna ask you just to look
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  • Ask you just to look into the camera
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  • Into the camera and just pray over people now.
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  • And just pray over people now. many people need what you have,
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  • Many people need what you have, and some of -- some need
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  • And some of -- some need eternal life right now.
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  • Eternal life right now. >> well, abba father, right now,
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  • >> well, abba father, right now, first and foremost,
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  • First and foremost, we just declare
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  • We just declare and we thank you
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  • And we thank you for being a healer,
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  • For being a healer, for being a restorer,
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  • For being a restorer, for being a covenantal
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  • For being a covenantal promise keeper.
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  • Promise keeper. and right now i wanna speak
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  • And right now i wanna speak and pray to those of you
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  • And pray to those of you that are feeling like you are
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  • That are feeling like you are consumed with bitterness,
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  • Consumed with bitterness, with fear, with anger,
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  • With fear, with anger, with resentment.
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  • With resentment. i wanna pray specifically
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  • I wanna pray specifically for some jewish brothers
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  • For some jewish brothers and sisters that may be
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  • And sisters that may be watching and feeling like,
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  • Watching and feeling like, "i'm afraid to leave my house
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  • "i'm afraid to leave my house because of the rise
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  • Because of the rise of anti-semitism."
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  • Of anti-semitism." i want you to know
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  • I want you to know that you are fearfully
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  • That you are fearfully and wonderfully made,
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  • And wonderfully made, that you are held
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  • That you are held in the palm of the lord's hands,
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  • In the palm of the lord's hands, and nothing can happen to you
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  • And nothing can happen to you that he does not allow.
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  • That he does not allow. and so, i pray that
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  • And so, i pray that you would be free
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  • You would be free to be who you are,
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  • To be who you are, who god has called you to be.
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  • Who god has called you to be. and that you would not have
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  • And that you would not have any fear like joshua,
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  • Any fear like joshua, that you would be
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  • That you would be strong and bold,
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  • Strong and bold, and courageous,
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  • And courageous, and knowing that the god
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  • And knowing that the god of israel has a plan
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  • Of israel has a plan and purpose for your life.
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  • And purpose for your life. for those watching
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  • For those watching that maybe feeling like,
  • 00:26:17.367 --> 00:26:18.334
  • That maybe feeling like, "i'm struggling.
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  • "i'm struggling. i'm i not important
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  • I'm i not important because i'm not jewish?
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  • Because i'm not jewish? do i have a place
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  • Do i have a place in this picture?"
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  • In this picture?" i wanna pray right now
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  • I wanna pray right now that you would fall
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  • That you would fall crazy in love with
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  • Crazy in love with your jewish messiah,
  • 00:26:27.310 --> 00:26:28.111
  • Your jewish messiah, that god would begin to place
  • 00:26:28.177 --> 00:26:29.979
  • That god would begin to place jewish people in your life
  • 00:26:30.046 --> 00:26:31.381
  • Jewish people in your life where you can experience
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  • Where you can experience that covenantal relationship.
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  • That covenantal relationship. and i pray right now by
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  • And i pray right now by the power of the holy spirit,
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  • The power of the holy spirit, ruach hakodesh, that you would
  • 00:26:38.287 --> 00:26:40.490
  • Ruach hakodesh, that you would experience god's deep love,
  • 00:26:40.556 --> 00:26:42.792
  • Experience god's deep love, his deep healing,
  • 00:26:42.859 --> 00:26:43.993
  • His deep healing, and his deep presence
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  • And his deep presence in your life.
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  • In your life. in the mighty name
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  • In the mighty name of jesus our lord.
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  • Of jesus our lord. amen.
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  • Amen. >> amen, amen.
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  • >> amen, amen. we invite you to continue
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  • We invite you to continue to discover more about
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  • To discover more about the jewish foundations
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  • The jewish foundations of your christian faith
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  • Of your christian faith and you can visit us
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  • The mission of reaching jewish communities
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  • Jewish communities with the good news of yeshua.
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  • With the good news of yeshua. thanks for being part of
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  • Thanks for being part of today's program,
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  • Today's program, and i wanna remind you,
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  • As we close, to, "pray for
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  • The peace of jerusalem,"
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  • Psalm 122:6,
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  • "may they prosper
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  • Who love thee."
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  • Shalom and god bless you.
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