Jonathan Bernis - A Jewish Man Sees Jesus

January 15, 2025 | S25:E3

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Jewish Voice with Jonathan Bernis | Jonathan Bernis - A Jewish Man Sees Jesus | January 15, 2025

Was jewish?
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You might be asking,
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What does that mean
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For your christian faith?
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>> watch today and discover
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How understanding
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The jewish roots
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Of your faith.
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And your connection
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To israel and the jewish people
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>> can transform your life
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And the way you
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Read the bible.
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Coming up on jewish voice.
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>> welcome to jewish voice.
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>> welcome to jewish voice. i'm jonathan bernis.
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I'm jonathan bernis. today, we're honored
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Today, we're honored to have a dear friend,
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To have a dear friend, rabbi greg hershberg.
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Rabbi greg hershberg. he's a remarkable person whose
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He's a remarkable person whose journey of faith and dedication
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Journey of faith and dedication has been nothing short
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Has been nothing short of miraculous.
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Of miraculous. greg was born
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Greg was born in the vibrant bronx
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In the vibrant bronx and raised in an orthodox
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And raised in an orthodox jewish community.
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Jewish community. and in a profound moment
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And in a profound moment on mount tabor in israel,
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On mount tabor in israel, during his honeymoon in israel,
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During his honeymoon in israel, changed everything
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Changed everything when he encountered
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When he encountered a vision of the messiah.
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A vision of the messiah. rabbi greg hershberg,
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Rabbi greg hershberg, welcome, my friend.
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Welcome, my friend. we should have music
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We should have music in the background just to --
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In the background just to -- it's so great to see you.
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It's so great to see you. >> it's even better to see you.
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>> it's even better to see you. >> you know, we've been friends
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>> you know, we've been friends a long time.
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A long time. >> i connected with you
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>> i connected with you right away because
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Right away because you know messianic judaism
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You know messianic judaism could be very strange.
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Could be very strange. it could be like granola,
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It could be like granola, fruit, flakes and nuts.
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Fruit, flakes and nuts. >> yeah.
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>> yeah. >> and there's so many
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>> and there's so many different branches.
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Different branches. but i know you were kosher
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But i know you were kosher because you explained to them,
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Because you explained to them, "it's not us and them.
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"it's not us and them. it's us."
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It's us." and that's what i felt.
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And that's what i felt. i just feel unified
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I just feel unified with the body.
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With the body. i don't feel there should be
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I don't feel there should be any division if we all
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Any division if we all believe in yeshua.
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Believe in yeshua. so, the minute i heard you
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So, the minute i heard you said it, i was like,
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Said it, i was like, "i like this guy."
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"i like this guy." >> we have such
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>> we have such a similar story too and i want
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A similar story too and i want to talk about that today.
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To talk about that today. so, you're born in the bronx.
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So, you're born in the bronx. now, i don't --
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Now, i don't -- i introduced it as
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I introduced it as the vibrant bronx.
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[laughing]
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I never heard that before.
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I never heard that before. that was in the tele --
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That was in the tele -- >> it's actually
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>> it's actually because new york city
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Because new york city has five boroughs.
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Has five boroughs. and for whatever reason,
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And for whatever reason, most of the jews that immigrated
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Most of the jews that immigrated through ellis island
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Through ellis island ended up in the bronx.
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Ended up in the bronx. it was called the jewish world
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It was called the jewish world in the ‘70s.
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In the ‘70s. 80% of all the people who lived
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80% of all the people who lived in the bronx were jewish.
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In the bronx were jewish. >> that's amazing.
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>> that's amazing. >> yeah, it truly is.
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>> yeah, it truly is. >> it's like a shtetl.
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>> it's like a shtetl. >> yeah.
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>> yeah. >> it's -- yeah.
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>> it's -- yeah. >> but what happened is,
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>> but what happened is, in the ‘70s,
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In the ‘70s, the jewish people start
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The jewish people start to become professionals
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To become professionals and affluent,
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And affluent, and they became doctors,
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And they became doctors, and lawyers, and engineers.
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And lawyers, and engineers. so, they moved out of the bronx
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So, they moved out of the bronx and went to the burbs.
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And went to the burbs. because, you know, the burbs
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Because, you know, the burbs have the better houses,
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Have the better houses, and they have
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And they have the better schools,
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The better schools, and on and on.
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And on and on. my father was poor.
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My father was poor. i don't know how i was born
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I don't know how i was born into the only house,
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Into the only house, jewish household,
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Jewish household, where they were
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Where they were poverty stricken.
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Poverty stricken. but we stayed in the projects.
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But we stayed in the projects. so, i was the only --
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So, i was the only -- one of the only jews
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One of the only jews in the projects left.
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In the projects left. so, when i went
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So, when i went to hebrew school, it was --
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To hebrew school, it was -- it was kind of rough
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It was kind of rough because the neighborhood
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Because the neighborhood wasn't jewish anymore.
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Wasn't jewish anymore. and me and a couple of kids
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And me and a couple of kids went to this little,
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Went to this little, broken-down, orthodox synagogue.
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Broken-down, orthodox synagogue. and in actuality i was thrown --
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And in actuality i was thrown -- you know, rocks were
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You know, rocks were thrown at me.
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Thrown at me. >> you were orthodox...
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>> you were orthodox... >> orthodox.
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>> orthodox. >> which means you're wearing
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>> which means you're wearing the kippah?
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The kippah? you're very visibly jewish,
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You're very visibly jewish, right?
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Right? >> yeah.
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>> yeah. yeah.
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Yeah. >> and you experienced
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>> and you experienced antisemitism?
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Antisemitism? >> yes, i really did.
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>> yes, i really did. in the bronx, it was --
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In the bronx, it was -- i was called
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I was called every name in the book.
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Every name in the book. horrible things were said to me,
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Horrible things were said to me, horrible, as a young man.
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Horrible, as a young man. i felt that it was part
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I felt that it was part and parcel to be antisemitic
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And parcel to be antisemitic if you weren't jewish.
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If you weren't jewish. i felt hated by many.
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I felt hated by many. and to be honest with you,
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And to be honest with you, i didn't wanna be
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I didn't wanna be jewish anymore.
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Jewish anymore. >> did they mention
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>> did they mention the name of christ?
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The name of christ? was there a connection
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Was there a connection to christianity in all this?
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To christianity in all this? >> they let me know in so many
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>> they let me know in so many ways that i killed jesus.
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Ways that i killed jesus. my --
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My -- deicide.
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Deicide. we killed god
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We killed god and that's why we're cursed.
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And that's why we're cursed. >> so, they did --
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>> so, they did -- they yelled at you saying
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They yelled at you saying those things as they were
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Those things as they were throwing stones at you?
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Throwing stones at you? >> yeah.
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>> yeah. it was --
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It was -- it was just part of my life.
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It was just part of my life. that's just the way it was.
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That's just the way it was. i heard racial slurs,
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I heard racial slurs, ethnic slurs about being
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Ethnic slurs about being jewish all the time.
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Jewish all the time. and so, with a name
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And so, with a name like hershberg, you know,
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Like hershberg, you know, you can't get away with it.
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You can't get away with it. so, i stopped introducing myself
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So, i stopped introducing myself with my last name.
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With my last name. >> and the yarmulke
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>> and the yarmulke and whatever else.
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And whatever else. >> and walking
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>> and walking to the synagogue on saturday,
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To the synagogue on saturday, you know, the guys are
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You know, the guys are playing ball and i'm walking
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Playing ball and i'm walking to the synagogue 20 blocks.
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To the synagogue 20 blocks. >> you're accused
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>> you're accused of being a christ killer.
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Of being a christ killer. what's your impression of jesus?
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What's your impression of jesus? >> my impression,
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>> my impression, we never spoke in my house
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We never spoke in my house or in any of my extended family.
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Or in any of my extended family. he was never mentioned.
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He was never mentioned. he was kind of like a non-issue.
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He was kind of like a non-issue. never disrespected.
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Never disrespected. i didn't know
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I didn't know anything about him.
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Anything about him. the best i could tell you,
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The best i could tell you, if you ask me, "who is jesus?"
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If you ask me, "who is jesus?" i would tell you, "the head
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I would tell you, "the head of the catholic church."
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[laughter]
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Because in new york city
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Because in new york city in the boroughs.
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In the boroughs. >> son of mr.
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>> son of mr. and mrs. christ.
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And mrs. christ. >> yeah.
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>> yeah. >> one vatican lane.
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>> one vatican lane. >> yeah.
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>> yeah. there's no protestantism.
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There's no protestantism. there's jew and catholic.
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There's jew and catholic. back then in the ‘70s,
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Back then in the ‘70s, there's no hinduism.
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There's no hinduism. there's no buddhism.
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There's no buddhism. it's jew or catholic.
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It's jew or catholic. and we were
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And we were definitely different,
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Definitely different, i mean, in so many ways.
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I mean, in so many ways. we're worshiping om saturday.
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We're worshiping om saturday. they're worshiping on sunday.
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They're worshiping on sunday. you know,
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You know, we're having the bagel.
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We're having the bagel. they're having the biscuit.
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They're having the biscuit. we're having the brisket.
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We're having the brisket. they're having the pork loin.
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They're having the pork loin. their christmas and easter.
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Their christmas and easter. it's so divided,
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It's so divided, but i was okay with that.
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But i was okay with that. i had, you know, friends,
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I had, you know, friends, and, you know, we knew
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And, you know, we knew we were different,
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We were different, but we didn't
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But we didn't talk about religion.
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Talk about religion. but i was under the impression
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But i was under the impression that if we killed their leader,
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That if we killed their leader, i can't see them being
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I can't see them being interested in us at all.
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Interested in us at all. >> now, at some point,
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>> now, at some point, as you're getting older,
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As you're getting older, you're thinking,
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You're thinking, “i don't really wanna be jewish.
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“i don't really wanna be jewish. i don't wanna go through this.”
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I don't wanna go through this.” >> i didn't wanna be jewish
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>> i didn't wanna be jewish after my bar mitzvah.
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After my bar mitzvah. >> yeah, same here.
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>> yeah, same here. >> it's sad.
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>> it's sad. i sat in an orthodox synagogue.
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I sat in an orthodox synagogue. my mom sat behind the curtain.
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My mom sat behind the curtain. my rabbi was no game show host.
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My rabbi was no game show host. i'm not blaming him,
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I'm not blaming him, but it wasn't touchy-feely,
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But it wasn't touchy-feely, you know.
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You know. it was very austere.
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It was very austere. the service was over four hours.
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The service was over four hours. it was all in hebrew.
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It was all in hebrew. it just wasn't fun at all.
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It just wasn't fun at all. >> and what about god?
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>> and what about god? what's your --
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What's your -- did you believe in god?
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Did you believe in god? what --
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What -- >> i made a lot of --
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>> i made a lot of -- i made a lot of de --
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I made a lot of de -- i made a lot of deals with god.
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I made a lot of deals with god. “let me make this basket.”
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“let me make this basket.” i played a lot of basketball.
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I played a lot of basketball. “let me make this basket and,
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“let me make this basket and, you know, we'll be tight,”
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You know, we'll be tight,” kind of thing.
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Kind of thing. i didn't know anything about
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I didn't know anything about a personal relationship.
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A personal relationship. i definitely would not
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I definitely would not know him as abba, father.
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Know him as abba, father. and it's sad.
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And it's sad. i just thought he was
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I just thought he was out there waiting for me
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Out there waiting for me to do something wrong,
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To do something wrong, and i would set zapped
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And i would set zapped and i would deserve it.
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And i would deserve it. i was kind of afraid of god,
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I was kind of afraid of god, but not in a good way.
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But not in a good way. not in fearful reverence.
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Not in fearful reverence. >> right.
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>> right. >> more of like, “stay away.”
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>> more of like, “stay away.” >> so, you go through
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>> so, you go through hebrew school.
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Hebrew school. you're --
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You're -- all of this training.
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All of this training. you have your bar mitzvah.
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You have your bar mitzvah. you're reading from the torah.
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You're reading from the torah. you're a man, right, age 13.
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You're a man, right, age 13. but you don't wanna be jewish.
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But you don't wanna be jewish. you know, you don't want stones
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You know, you don't want stones thrown at you, etcetera.
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Thrown at you, etcetera. what happens then?
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What happens then? talk about the next phase
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Talk about the next phase of your life.
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Of your life. >> i felt that my bar mitzvah,
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>> i felt that my bar mitzvah, you know, it was a --
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You know, it was a -- it was a long half hour portion,
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It was a long half hour portion, the longest of the year.
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The longest of the year. i had it memorized, and i had
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I had it memorized, and i had to memorize the trope.
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To memorize the trope. and i felt like i'd paid
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And i felt like i'd paid my penance to judaism,
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My penance to judaism, and i wanted to have
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And i wanted to have a personal exodus from
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A personal exodus from the orthodox community.
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The orthodox community. >> sure.
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>> sure. >> and so, i did what
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>> and so, i did what my mom asked of me.
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My mom asked of me. so, we started to go more
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So, we started to go more to synagogue on yom kippur,
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To synagogue on yom kippur, on rosh hashanah, the holy days,
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On rosh hashanah, the holy days, and slowly but surely,
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And slowly but surely, i became more secular.
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I became more secular. >> it's like christmas
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>> it's like christmas and easter for the --
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And easter for the -- for the christians.
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For the christians. >> it's exactly the same.
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>> it's exactly the same. >> yeah.
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>> yeah. exactly.
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Exactly. >> and i just slowly
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>> and i just slowly became very secular
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Became very secular and very humanistic,
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And very humanistic, and pursued education
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And pursued education and pursued --
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And pursued -- you know, making a good living.
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You know, making a good living. that was --
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That was -- that was my plan.
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That was my plan. >> yeah.
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>> yeah. and -- but you ended up
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And -- but you ended up going to israel.
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Going to israel. and it --
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And it -- before you went,
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Before you went, anything that happened that was
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Anything that happened that was drawing you closer to god
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Drawing you closer to god or causing you
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Or causing you to ask questions about,
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To ask questions about, "what -- what's --
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"what -- what's -- what am i here for?"
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What am i here for?" or, "what's gonna happen
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Or, "what's gonna happen after you die?"
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After you die?" >> you know,
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>> you know, i never thought about,
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I never thought about, "what am i here for?"
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"what am i here for?" i was here --
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I was here -- i knew what i was here for,
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I knew what i was here for, to have fun,
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To have fun, to have a good time.
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To have a good time. when i was a little boy --
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When i was a little boy -- when i was a little boy.
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When i was a little boy. "eat, drink,
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"eat, drink, for tomorrow you die."
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For tomorrow you die." because i saw people dying
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Because i saw people dying and i believed you didn't
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And i believed you didn't have tomorrow.
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Have tomorrow. i lived that way.
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I lived that way. i lived in the fast lane.
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I lived in the fast lane. some people say,
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Some people say, "you don't have tomorrow.
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"you don't have tomorrow. live everyday like
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Live everyday like it's your last 'cause
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It's your last 'cause one day it's gonna be."
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One day it's gonna be." i believe that.
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I believe that. with all my heart,
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With all my heart, i believe that.
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I believe that. so, when i was a little boy,
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So, when i was a little boy, even at five years old,
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Even at five years old, people would ask me,
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People would ask me, "what do you wanna be
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"what do you wanna be when you grow up?"
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When you grow up?" and i always answer
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And i always answer the same thing, "happy."
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The same thing, "happy." >> so, what brings you
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>> so, what brings you to israel?
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To israel? >> well, you can
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>> well, you can totally relate to this.
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Totally relate to this. you know, jews can believe in
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You know, jews can believe in anything except jesus, right?
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Anything except jesus, right? you could become a buddhist.
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You could become a buddhist. and it doesn't matter, right?
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And it doesn't matter, right? >> right.
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>> right. >> you know, so we are
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>> you know, so we are people of the book.
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People of the book. we were god's first born.
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We were god's first born. we ha --
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We ha -- we're like orphans looking
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We're like orphans looking for our heavenly father.
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For our heavenly father. we just don't know
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We just don't know we're looking for him.
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We're looking for him. so, we searched everywhere
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So, we searched everywhere because it's ingrained in us
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Because it's ingrained in us eternal life.
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Eternal life. it's in our dna.
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It's in our dna. >> it is.
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>> it is. >> so, i was looking --
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>> so, i was looking -- so, i got involved with
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So, i got involved with eastern thought,
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Eastern thought, transcendental meditation,
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Transcendental meditation, ethereal energies.
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Ethereal energies. i found my little cult leader
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I found my little cult leader who was enamored with.
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Who was enamored with. he was jewish.
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He was jewish. he was a chiropractor.
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He was a chiropractor. i was working out
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I was working out a lot of the time.
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A lot of the time. i was into martial arts.
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I was into martial arts. he was a master.
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He was a master. and so, this guy had
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And so, this guy had total control of me, total.
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Total control of me, total. from my mid-20s,
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From my mid-20s, i met my wife, my bernadette.
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I met my wife, my bernadette. she was my girlfriend
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She was my girlfriend at the time.
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At the time. and he said, "you have to go
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And he said, "you have to go to israel on your honeymoon."
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To israel on your honeymoon." and i'm thinking, "no way
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And i'm thinking, "no way am i going to israel
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Am i going to israel on my honeymoon."
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On my honeymoon." >> well, israel is gonna
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>> well, israel is gonna change everything.
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Change everything. but we have to take
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But we have to take a short break.
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A short break. this is such
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This is such a powerful testimony,
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A powerful testimony, and i know you
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And i know you want to hear more,
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Want to hear more, but we need to slip away
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But we need to slip away for just a moment.
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For just a moment. jewish voice is reaching out
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Rabbi greg, you're going
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Rabbi greg, you're going to israel for your honeymoon,
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To israel for your honeymoon, and something changes that year.
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And something changes that year. something happens
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Something happens that's unexpected.
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That's unexpected. tell us about it.
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Tell us about it. >> yeah.
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>> yeah. i didn't wanna go
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I didn't wanna go to israel at all.
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To israel at all. my wife and i, bernadette,
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My wife and i, bernadette, we were dating.
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We were dating. we were going to the caribbean
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We were going to the caribbean every three months.
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Every three months. i was doing well financially.
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I was doing well financially. she was a swimsuit model
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She was a swimsuit model at the time and we're living
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At the time and we're living very external.
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Very external. we're living to --
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We're living to -- very hedonistically in a sense.
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Very hedonistically in a sense. and i just didn't put hedonism
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And i just didn't put hedonism and israel together.
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And israel together. i just thought i'll have
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I just thought i'll have more rocks thrown at me.
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More rocks thrown at me. that's what i'm thinking.
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That's what i'm thinking. i'm thinking jamaica.
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I'm thinking jamaica. and so, this guy had such
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And so, this guy had such a strong pull.
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A strong pull. it was --
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It was -- he said, "no.
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He said, "no. i think you have to go."
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I think you have to go." and, you know, you wonder.
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And, you know, you wonder. he was definitely a cult leader,
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He was definitely a cult leader, and he wasn't a believer.
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And he wasn't a believer. god used balaam's donkey.
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God used balaam's donkey. he could use
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He could use my karate teacher, right?
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My karate teacher, right? i mean, god can do anything.
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I mean, god can do anything. god's god.
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God's god. so, yeah.
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So, yeah. we were on the el al flight
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We were on the el al flight leaving from jfk in new york
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Leaving from jfk in new york and we land in israel.
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And we land in israel. and we started to go right away
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And we started to go right away on another flight to el al.
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On another flight to el al. and el al airlines
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And el al airlines and down to eilat.
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And down to eilat. and if you've been there,
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And if you've been there, it's in the sinai peninsula.
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It's in the sinai peninsula. it's gorgeous.
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It's gorgeous. it's on the red sea.
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It's on the red sea. beautiful hotels.
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Beautiful hotels. i'm loving eilat a lot
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I'm loving eilat a lot ‘cause it's a total party.
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‘cause it's a total party. we're water skiing.
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We're water skiing. i'm scuba diving in egypt.
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I'm scuba diving in egypt. we're going out at night
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We're going out at night dancing and partying.
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Dancing and partying. i'm like, “this isn't so --
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I'm like, “this isn't so -- you know, israel is not
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You know, israel is not so bad after all.
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So bad after all. i'm loving it.”
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I'm loving it.” but then our time
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But then our time in eilat was over
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In eilat was over and we went to jerusalem,
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And we went to jerusalem, and i hated it, hated it.
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And i hated it, hated it. i didn't know anything about
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I didn't know anything about spiritual warfare,
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Spiritual warfare, but i felt it.
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But i felt it. i felt it breathing down
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I felt it breathing down my neck.
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My neck. and when you've got
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And when you've got an armenian quarter,
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An armenian quarter, and a christian quarter,
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And a christian quarter, and a muslim quarter,
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And a muslim quarter, and a jewish quarter,
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And a jewish quarter, how could it be so divided?
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How could it be so divided? when i went to spain,
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When i went to spain, there were spanish people.
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There were spanish people. in greece, there were
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In greece, there were greek people.
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Greek people. i just thought it would be
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I just thought it would be all jewish people.
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All jewish people. >> yeah.
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>> yeah. >> in my ignorance,
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>> in my ignorance, i didn't know.
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I didn't know. >> that's an
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>> that's an interesting response.
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Interesting response. you're not a believer and you
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You're not a believer and you feel the warfare.
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Feel the warfare. >> i felt it.
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>> i felt it. >> yeah.
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>> yeah. >> it was --
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>> it was -- it was blatant.
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It was blatant. it was obvious.
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It was obvious. you'd have to be dead
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You'd have to be dead not to feel it.
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Not to feel it. so, we were there for
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So, we were there for about seven, eight days.
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About seven, eight days. still had a good time.
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Still had a good time. still managed to party and go
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Still managed to party and go to some good restaurants.
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To some good restaurants. and the last day before we were
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And the last day before we were going to greece, i said,
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Going to greece, i said, "bernadette, let's go up north."
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"bernadette, let's go up north." she said, "why?"
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She said, "why?" i said, "i've read about
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I said, "i've read about this place.
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This place. i'd like to check it out."
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I'd like to check it out." you know, and something really
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You know, and something really amazing happened there.
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Amazing happened there. i mean, jesus --
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I mean, jesus -- i called him, "this jesus."
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I called him, "this jesus." forgive me.
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Forgive me. but at the time,
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But at the time, this jesus transfigures.
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This jesus transfigures. and moses and elijah,
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And moses and elijah, those were my guys.
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Those were my guys. you know, mose --
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You know, mose -- there are --
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There are -- right?
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Right? moses and elijah shows up.
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Moses and elijah shows up. i wanna --
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I wanna -- >> they're our guys.
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>> they're our guys. >> i wanna go check it out.
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>> i wanna go check it out. so, it was the last day.
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So, it was the last day. why were we gonna go to greece?
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Why were we gonna go to greece? i was convinced israel was
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I was convinced israel was gonna be horrific.
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Gonna be horrific. so, give me a week in greece.
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So, give me a week in greece. and so, we went up there
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And so, we went up there and we're looking for
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And we're looking for the transfiguration mountain.
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The transfiguration mountain. this is 1989.
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This is 1989. and a lot of jewish people
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And a lot of jewish people were hitchhiking
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Were hitchhiking especially soldiers.
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Especially soldiers. so, we picked them up.
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So, we picked them up. i said, "do you know
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I said, "do you know where the transfiguration
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Where the transfiguration mountain is?"
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Mountain is?" they didn't speak english.
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They didn't speak english. little did i know,
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Little did i know, the biblical name is tabor.
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The biblical name is tabor. mount tabor.
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Mount tabor. the biblical name
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The biblical name for what transpired there
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For what transpired there was transfigure.
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Was transfigure. so, nobody knew where it was.
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So, nobody knew where it was. so, this one guy is hitchhiking,
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So, this one guy is hitchhiking, and i said,
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And i said, "where are you going?"
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"where are you going?" he said, "i'm going to tabor."
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He said, "i'm going to tabor." i said, "okay, we got
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I said, "okay, we got nothing better to do.
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Nothing better to do. we were jump bumping around."
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We were jump bumping around." so, i drove him there,
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So, i drove him there, dropped him off.
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Dropped him off. looked to my left
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Looked to my left and there was a mountain.
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And there was a mountain. and i don't how to explain this,
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And i don't how to explain this, but then again,
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But then again, i don't know how to explain
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I don't know how to explain a lot of things about god.
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A lot of things about god. i just try to follow his lead,
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I just try to follow his lead, you know.
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You know. i'm just a guy.
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I'm just a guy. he is the god.
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He is the god. i felt like somebody was
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I felt like somebody was on top of the mountain with
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On top of the mountain with a fishing rod and they cast it,
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A fishing rod and they cast it, and the hook went into my heart.
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And the hook went into my heart. and i could not prevent myself
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And i could not prevent myself from going up.
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From going up. bernadette was screaming
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Bernadette was screaming and she's a tough bronx chick.
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And she's a tough bronx chick. she was screaming,
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She was screaming, because i was driving
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Because i was driving so recklessly up tabor.
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So recklessly up tabor. something was pulling me.
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Something was pulling me. i had to get up there
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I had to get up there and i don't know why.
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And i don't know why. >> you could just feel it.
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>> you could just feel it. it just grabbed hold of you.
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It just grabbed hold of you. >> it was --
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>> it was -- >> yeah.
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>> yeah. >> again, it was blatant.
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>> again, it was blatant. nothing was gonna stop me.
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Nothing was gonna stop me. wild horses couldn't keep me
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Wild horses couldn't keep me away from getting up
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Away from getting up to that mountain.
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To that mountain. >> yeah.
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>> yeah. >> and i did,
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>> and i did, and i opened up the car door
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And i opened up the car door and i ran out.
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And i ran out. i never closed the car door.
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I never closed the car door. i ran out and i saw
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I ran out and i saw this basilica, this covering,
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This basilica, this covering, and i ran to the covering.
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And i ran to the covering. just on top of the mountain,
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Just on top of the mountain, there was a plaque.
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There was a plaque. and the plaque said,
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And the plaque said, "the basilica
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"the basilica to the transfiguration."
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To the transfiguration." and i heard a voice.
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And i heard a voice. i can't guarantee
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I can't guarantee it was an audible voice.
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It was an audible voice. but i definitely heard it
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But i definitely heard it in my heart, and it said,
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In my heart, and it said, "come away with me and pray."
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"come away with me and pray." and i'm embarrassed to say
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And i'm embarrassed to say i didn't know how to pray.
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I didn't know how to pray. i knew wrote prayers
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I knew wrote prayers from my jewish upbringing.
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From my jewish upbringing. i didn't know how
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I didn't know how to talk to god.
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To talk to god. so, the best i could do is,
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So, the best i could do is, i went to a quiet spot.
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I went to a quiet spot. i stood.
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I stood. i closed my eyes.
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I closed my eyes. i emptied myself so i can
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I emptied myself so i can raise my consciousness.
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Raise my consciousness. and it was almost like i was
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And it was almost like i was doing a sun posture,
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Doing a sun posture, if you will.
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If you will. and then it happened.
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And then it happened. >> no witnessing?
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>> no witnessing? no, no...
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No, no... >> no.
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>> no. >> nothing?
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>> nothing? no, bible reading?
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No, bible reading? >> i think i was so far gone
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>> i think i was so far gone that i needed something.
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That i needed something. and god's infinite mercy
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And god's infinite mercy and grace --
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And grace -- i needed something more than
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I needed something more than just have somebody share
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Just have somebody share the gospel with me from
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The gospel with me from the book of romans.
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The book of romans. i needed something big.
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I needed something big. and so, i tell people
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And so, i tell people i went into a trance.
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I went into a trance. and obviously,
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And obviously, some mainline christians
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Some mainline christians and believers have a problem
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And believers have a problem with that ‘cause
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With that ‘cause they think trance,
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They think trance, they think cult.
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They think cult. but in actuality,
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But in actuality, the bible says in acts 10:10
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The bible says in acts 10:10 that peter went into a trance.
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That peter went into a trance. and in acts 22:17 it says
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And in acts 22:17 it says paul went into a trance.
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Paul went into a trance. those are heavy hitters.
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Those are heavy hitters. those are heavy hitters.
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Those are heavy hitters. trance is when you're thrown
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Trance is when you're thrown out of your mind.
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Out of your mind. i --
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I -- it was radical.
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It was radical. when i met him,
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When i met him, this eastern sky opened up.
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This eastern sky opened up. he came down.
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He came down. his face shone like the sun.
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His face shone like the sun. his clothes was
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His clothes was a white as light.
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A white as light. he pressed himself up
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He pressed himself up against me.
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Against me. and the first --
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And the first -- the first thing he said was,
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The first thing he said was, "i love you."
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"i love you." now, i got a lot of love
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Now, i got a lot of love from my mom.
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From my mom. my mom was a very loving person,
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My mom was a very loving person, very, incredibly gentle,
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Very, incredibly gentle, beautiful spirit.
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Beautiful spirit. i had aunts.
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I had aunts. i had three sisters
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I had three sisters that loved me dearly.
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That loved me dearly. i had a wife with me
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I had a wife with me that loved me dearly.
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That loved me dearly. i never felt love like i felt
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I never felt love like i felt in that moment.
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In that moment. it's inexplicable.
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It's inexplicable. >> it's incredible.
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>> it's incredible. >> it was otherworldly.
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>> it was otherworldly. it was otherworldly.
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It was otherworldly. i was in a wrapped condition.
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I was in a wrapped condition. it was something
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It was something i've never felt,
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I've never felt, something i never felt since.
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Something i never felt since. i have four children
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I have four children that love me.
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That love me. it was something more intense.
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It was something more intense. >> i wanna move on
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>> i wanna move on 'cause we just have
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'cause we just have a little bit of time left.
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A little bit of time left. quickly, you've been through --
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Quickly, you've been through -- we had a parallel
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We had a parallel health crisis...
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Health crisis... >> yes.
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>> yes. >> and we're alive today
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>> and we're alive today by the grace of god.
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By the grace of god. >> yes.
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>> yes. >> just talk about that
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>> just talk about that 'cause it really parallels.
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'cause it really parallels. we've been on the phone
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We've been on the phone with each other
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With each other encouraging each other.
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Encouraging each other. but talk about that.
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But talk about that. >> i was with bernadette
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>> i was with bernadette in saint louis, and i collapsed.
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In saint louis, and i collapsed. i was rushed to the hospital.
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I was rushed to the hospital. they said i had
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They said i had a blood staph infection.
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A blood staph infection. i said, "okay."
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I said, "okay." i thought after
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I thought after my doctor said --
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My doctor said -- he said 20% of people die
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He said 20% of people die from blood staph.
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From blood staph. "what do we do?"
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"what do we do?" i was admitted.
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I was admitted. i was given some
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I was given some strong antibiotics, lincomycin,
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Strong antibiotics, lincomycin, my renal shut down,
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My renal shut down, so now i'm in kidney failure
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So now i'm in kidney failure along with the blood staph,
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Along with the blood staph, and i have stents.
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And i have stents. i have a disease.
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I have a disease. i have a vascular disease,
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I have a vascular disease, so i have all these stents
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So i have all these stents in my body.
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In my body. and they said,
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And they said, "listen, we're worried
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"listen, we're worried because this blood staph likes
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Because this blood staph likes to seat itself in the stents."
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To seat itself in the stents." i was like, "what do we do?"
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I was like, "what do we do?" he said, "we gotta rush you
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He said, "we gotta rush you to emory.
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To emory. we had to do surgery.
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We had to do surgery. you gotta get in
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You gotta get in a local hospital."
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A local hospital." i was rushed there.
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I was rushed there. i was riding in pain.
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I was riding in pain. long story short.
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Long story short. they said they're gonna
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They said they're gonna have to open me up.
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Have to open me up. they don't know what's going on.
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They don't know what's going on. and i said to the doctor,
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And i said to the doctor, who i knew for ten years now,
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Who i knew for ten years now, an exceptional surgery,
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An exceptional surgery, i said, "dr. dobesh,
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I said, "dr. dobesh, should i say, 'goodbye,'
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Should i say, 'goodbye,' to my children?"
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To my children?" just tongue in cheek.
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Just tongue in cheek. he said, "yes."
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He said, "yes." and i'm very close to my kids.
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And i'm very close to my kids. i'm not good at anything.
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I'm not good at anything. i'm not gifted.
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I'm not gifted. i have no talents.
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I have no talents. but i lost my dad
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But i lost my dad when i was young,
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When i was young, and i loved my dad,
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And i loved my dad, so i said,
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So i said, “i'm going to be a good father.
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“i'm going to be a good father. that's where i'm gonna
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That's where i'm gonna spend my time.
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Spend my time. that's gonna be my hobby.”
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That's gonna be my hobby.” and i'm close with my kids.
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And i'm close with my kids. they love me.
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They love me. i love them.
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I love them. and one by one,
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And one by one, i had to pull them him.
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I had to pull them him. i talked to 'em.
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I talked to 'em. and i had to say to my oldest,
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And i had to say to my oldest, "jeremy, it doesn't look good.
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"jeremy, it doesn't look good. i have a very small chance
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I have a very small chance to live.
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To live. i love you.
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I love you. you've never hurt me.
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You've never hurt me. i've always felt 10 feet tall
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I've always felt 10 feet tall when i was with you.
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When i was with you. best days of my life."
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Best days of my life." and he said,
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And he said, "dad, i want you to know
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"dad, i want you to know upfront if you don't make it,
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Upfront if you don't make it, i'm not gonna go to your funeral
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I'm not gonna go to your funeral 'cause i can't believe that
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'cause i can't believe that you're not gonna be in my life."
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You're not gonna be in my life." and the next three went
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And the next three went the same way.
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The same way. my second son said,
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My second son said, “dad, you're everybody's rabbi,
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“dad, you're everybody's rabbi, but you're my rabbi.”
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But you're my rabbi.” he said, “tell me,
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He said, “tell me, what am i supposed to do
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What am i supposed to do without my rabbi?”
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Without my rabbi?” my daughter said,
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My daughter said, “you're my best friend.
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“you're my best friend. how am i supposed to go on?”
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How am i supposed to go on?” it was awful.
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It was awful. as great as that moment
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As great as that moment was in mount tra --
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Was in mount tra -- transfiguration mount,
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Transfiguration mount, it was horrible,
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It was horrible, horrific painful, tortured.
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Horrific painful, tortured. i went through this
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I went through this 12-and-a-half-hour surgery.
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12-and-a-half-hour surgery. lost all my blood.
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Lost all my blood. the surgeon who was fairly
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The surgeon who was fairly agnostic who i've been
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Agnostic who i've been witnessing to for ten years,
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Witnessing to for ten years, he said he looked up at
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He said he looked up at the screen and he expected me
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The screen and he expected me to be flatlined, and he said
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To be flatlined, and he said i wasn't flatlined.
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I wasn't flatlined. and i said, "dr. dobesh,
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And i said, "dr. dobesh, how do you explain that?
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How do you explain that? there was no gas in the car,
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There was no gas in the car, how was it driving?
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How was it driving? there's no --
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There's no -- there's no blood
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There's no blood in my system, how am i living?"
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In my system, how am i living?" he said, "it's a phenomenon."
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He said, "it's a phenomenon." i said, "that's called
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I said, "that's called a miracle."
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A miracle." >> yeah.
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>> yeah. >> we throw that term around.
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>> we throw that term around. when there's
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When there's medical intervention,
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Medical intervention, that's not a miracle,
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That's not a miracle, that's a blessing.
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That's a blessing. there's only 250 miracles
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There's only 250 miracles in the bible.
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In the bible. >> you know, they --
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>> you know, they -- in my case,
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In my case, very, very similar.
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Very, very similar. the -- my --
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The -- my -- the surgeon told my wife
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The surgeon told my wife call his -- my fr --
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Call his -- my fr -- told my friend,
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Told my friend, 'cause i was in dallas,
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'cause i was in dallas, "you need to call his spouse.
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"you need to call his spouse. he's not gonna make it."
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He's not gonna make it." which is so horrible, horrible.
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Which is so horrible, horrible. and then, i did
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And then, i did pull through, miraculously,
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Pull through, miraculously, and then they found a liver
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And then they found a liver for me in four days.
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For me in four days. and i remember this --
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And i remember this -- the surgeon coming in
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The surgeon coming in and saying,
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And saying, “we found a liver for you,
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“we found a liver for you, will you accept it?”
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Will you accept it?” and i said, “is that a,” --
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And i said, “is that a,” -- i said, “is that a miracle?”
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I said, “is that a miracle?” he said, “it's highly unusual.
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He said, “it's highly unusual. four days in a system that
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Four days in a system that takes six months.
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Takes six months. yeah.
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Yeah. was absolutely mir,” --
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Was absolutely mir,” -- miracle after miracle.
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Miracle after miracle. my doctor told me that i had
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My doctor told me that i had a 10% chance of surviving
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A 10% chance of surviving at the ten-month mark.
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At the ten-month mark. he told me, "only one in ten
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He told me, "only one in ten make it to where you have."
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Make it to where you have." i said, "is that a miracle?"
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I said, "is that a miracle?" and he said,
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And he said, "it's highly unusual."
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"it's highly unusual." and then, he --
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And then, he -- i said, "is it a miracle?"
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I said, "is it a miracle?" he said, "yes, it's a miracle."
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He said, "yes, it's a miracle." we're miracle survivors,
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We're miracle survivors, my friend.
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My friend. >> and, you know, i --
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>> and, you know, i -- they say i'm a miracle.
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They say i'm a miracle. i'd rather not be --
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I'd rather not be -- i'd rather not have
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I'd rather not have gone through that.
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Gone through that. but during that time,
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But during that time, i struggled.
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I struggled. i'm a man of faith.
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I'm a man of faith. that's all i got going for me.
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That's all i got going for me. but around day 47
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But around day 47 in the hospital,
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In the hospital, i was struggling so much
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I was struggling so much it was my 65th birthday.
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It was my 65th birthday. and again, i'm embarrassed
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And again, i'm embarrassed to tell you,
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To tell you, but i told my wife,
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But i told my wife, “if you love me,
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“if you love me, take the pillow.
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Take the pillow. i'm done, bern.”
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>> this is such
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>> this is such a powerful testimony,
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A powerful testimony, and i know you
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And i know you want to hear more
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Want to hear more but we need to slip away
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It's lifesaving,
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Life-giving work.
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If at all possible,
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Call today or mail
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Or scan the qr code.
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In this spiritual battle,
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Your gift is making
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A difference.
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>> we always take time
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>> we always take time in the program to pray
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In the program to pray for our viewers,
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For our viewers, to pray for you,
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To pray for you, for your family,
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For your family, for your loved ones.
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For your loved ones. and we've had so many
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And we've had so many prayer requests this week.
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Prayer requests this week. god is listening.
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God is listening. god hears and he answers.
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God hears and he answers. rabbi greg, would you
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Rabbi greg, would you lead us in prayer?
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Lead us in prayer? and i think there may be people
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And i think there may be people watching that haven't yet had
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Watching that haven't yet had that mount tabor experience.
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That mount tabor experience. >> i know it's a common belief
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>> i know it's a common belief in christianity that at
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In christianity that at the end of your life,
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The end of your life, you're really gonna hear,
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You're really gonna hear, "well done,
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"well done, good and faithful servant,"
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Good and faithful servant," or "flee from me.
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Or "flee from me. i never know you."
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I never know you." but that parallels
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But that parallels the jewish thinking,
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The jewish thinking, and the jewish mindset.
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And the jewish mindset. in the book of daniel, it says,
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In the book of daniel, it says, "at the end of your life
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"at the end of your life you'll drink from
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You'll drink from the cup of salvation
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The cup of salvation or the cup of judgement.
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Or the cup of judgement. how do you know?"
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How do you know?" my mother used to say,
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My mother used to say, "my son, if your good
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"my son, if your good outweighs your bad,
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Outweighs your bad, then you're gonna go to heaven."
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Then you're gonna go to heaven." how does one know if their
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How does one know if their good outweighs their bad?
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Good outweighs their bad? your trials will never
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Your trials will never exceed your transgressions.
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Exceed your transgressions. the problem isn't judaism,
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The problem isn't judaism, but the answer isn't judaism.
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But the answer isn't judaism. the problem is sin
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The problem is sin and the answer is yeshua.
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And the answer is yeshua. and he's not
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And he's not the god of christianity.
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The god of christianity. he didn't come to start
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He didn't come to start a new religion.
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A new religion. he came to finish an old one.
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He came to finish an old one. it says, "as many received him."
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It says, "as many received him." i want you to know that
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I want you to know that if you receive yeshua
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If you receive yeshua as your lord and savior,
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As your lord and savior, you're all the more jewish.
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You're all the more jewish. it doesn't take away from
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It doesn't take away from your judaism.
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Your judaism. jesus wasn't jewish.
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Jesus wasn't jewish. he is and still is.
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He is and still is. so, i wanna pray.
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So, i wanna pray. "father, please, do what you
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"father, please, do what you do that we can't do.
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Do that we can't do. all we can do is lift yeshua up,
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All we can do is lift yeshua up, but you draw man because you
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But you draw man because you have to get the glory.
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Have to get the glory. draw your people.
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Draw your people. draw your people.
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Draw your people. please, father god,
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Please, father god, they're my jewish brethren,
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They're my jewish brethren, they mean well,
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They mean well, but they don't see it.
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But they don't see it. you have to unveil their eyes.
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You have to unveil their eyes. i'm asking you to do this
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I'm asking you to do this in your infinite mercy.
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In your infinite mercy. show them who their messiah is.
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Show them who their messiah is. show them yeshua.
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Show them yeshua. let them see it like i saw it.
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Let them see it like i saw it. and i ask these things in his
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And i ask these things in his name and his name only.
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Name and his name only. amen."
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>> rabbi greg, thank you for
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>> rabbi greg, thank you for joining us today and for sharing
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Joining us today and for sharing your story with our audience.
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Your story with our audience. we invite you to go deeper
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We invite you to go deeper and find meaningful ways
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And find meaningful ways to support and bless israel
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To support and bless israel and the jewish people
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And the jewish people by visiting jewishvoice.tv,
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By visiting jewishvoice.tv, jewishvoice.tv.
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Jewishvoice.tv. there, you'll discover resources
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There, you'll discover resources to grow in your faith
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To grow in your faith and opportunities
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And opportunities to make a positive impact.
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To make a positive impact. and you can send prayer requests
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And you can send prayer requests to us on the site,
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To us on the site, and we will pray for each
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And we will pray for each prayer you send us.
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Prayer you send us. remember, the greatest news
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Remember, the greatest news you can give any jewish person
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You can give any jewish person is the good news
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Is the good news of their messiah, "yeshua."
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Of their messiah, "yeshua." and that's true for all people.
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And that's true for all people. "jesus is the way, the truth,
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And the life."
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And the life." as we close our program,
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As we close our program, i wanna remind you to pray
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I wanna remind you to pray for the peace of jerusalem.
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For the peace of jerusalem. psalm 122:6 says, "to pray for
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Psalm 122:6 says, "to pray for the peace of jerusalem.
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The peace of jerusalem. may they prosper
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May they prosper who love thee."
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Thank you.
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Thank you. and until next time,
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And until next time, this is jonathan bernis
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This is jonathan bernis saying shalom
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Saying shalom and god bless you.
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♪ ♪
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Jonathan Bernis - A Jewish Man Sees Jesus

January 15, 2025 | S25:E3

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